I see what acho and Chase are saying from a monetary standpoint but you two are basically making the case for them to go back to what they've been for the last 5 years a good team with a weak quarterback but on the other hand this is the same problem Russell Wilson ran into in Seattle he wants too much money ..bruh got like five contracts you better take two for 50 and quit playing and win I don't think so but clearly he need another super bowl for people to quit hating
@ 4 and 1? Versus 6-6 is crazy timing. I think it’s his ability to convert on 3rd down. It helped the defense too because the other teams offense were out there less
@@PatriotWatchUSA it started in year 4 or Tomlin and the rest are lying about what they saw and they probably know more than either of us about talent.
James disappoints me with his flip on Fields. Shady got something personal with Fields. It's sad and hilarious. How come they wanna give Russ all the weapons which he's had the majority of his career, but Justin ,whose never HAD anything close to that, can't get the same amenities? Shii is redic. Give Jf one yr with stability, just 1
@@andref9663Bingo, but to the Fields fan boys any criticism of Fields is hate and is not allowed. That's how it was in Chicago. Fans bought the million excuses for Fields in why he stunk but the GMs around the league saw his passing was bad and that's why ZERO teams wanted him as a starter. The same will happen this year. Fields 180 yards passing a game isn't going to change that opinion.
They forget they thought Geno was trash and didn't even start then all of a sudden became a starter out of nowhere. Justin Fields can be better he obviously just needed a better coach/team
@@kmald2111 lesser opponents. Kirk cousins, Bo nix, Anthony Richardson, Dak Prescott, Gardner menshew, forgot the last Compared to Jayden Daniels, Lamar Jackson Aaron Rodgers, Joe Burrow, Patrick mahommes, Jalen hurts
I'm not defending Fields but he has never been properly developed.He won more games in Chicago with lesser team then Caleb did.Just saying he has been let down by his coaches in some part.
I think u can still see talent with not the best coaching. Andy Reid was 1 of the few good coaches prior to Mahomes. Did you see Bill as a head coach before and after Brady? Also Pete Caroll had loosing seasons before Russ. Justin hasn't shown outside of running that he can compete at a high level in the NFL.
They couldn't of really looked at any stats russ was not that good once he played better teams. He also didn't "win" the super bowl that would be the defense and why a defensive player won sb mvp
@ who threw the game winning td pass in the mfc championship game? he then followed it up with the 2nd highest QBR in superbowl history. But yea, it was the defense that was 7-9 the year before russ lol
Wait til you find out Justin lost every game the defense allowed more than 14 points. Or wait till u find out most his TDs were in games Steelers lost 🤯🫨
Lmao what evidence do you have of this from college or years in the NFL do you have to say that Fields is just as good as Hurts besides your own bias towards Justin?
@@PatriotWatchUSAit really don’t even matter anyone that knows football for real knows lesean mccoy is not good at being an “analyst” I know people gon say how good he was and he played lol but I really want people to know this a lot of good players do not really know the game or study it lol especially at his position
Shady's hatred for Fields in 2025 is so weird...Russ beat the Ravens by fields goals, beats the bengals aka the horrendous defense that fired their dc & the commanders with a rookie qb & a terrible defense. Idk what Shady is on tbh...
Both QBs have their significant problems. It's not like Philip Rivers and Drew Brees. Russell isn't winning the game outside of a controlled environment, and Justin would need an OC like Greg Roman to maximize him. Either way they need to look outside the room for their next QB. Like a Sam Darnold or the backup for Patriots.
Look at how badly you’re reaching to criticize Russ. Russ balled out against bad teams. Fields lost to bad teams. That’s the difference. Russ can do more with less.
And Justin gets 1million excuses. The difference is Justin hasn’t won one game where the Steelers defense gave up more than 14points. No one ever called Justin good or great. They just say potential, ceiling and he’s fast and “he went 4-2(wins aren’t a qb stat).”
Not true do yoy not remember all the bs caleb takes just because he hate fields. Caleb was horrible but made it seem like he was going to make the bears a contender@PatriotWatchUSA
The time of possession with Fields was 45 seconds more. I ran the numbers. You actually think 45 seconds more of rest in an entire game actually makes a difference? I think not.
If we are keeping it a buck, Wilson didn’t beat anyone notable either, they beat the ravens one time with field goals and they beat the bengals with a bad defense, I say give justin fields a chance, he is cheaper and easier to build around
@JoePesos 25th in points allowed. Russ scored most points 44 against them and most yards by an offense against them. Stop making excuses for why Russ was great in a shootout. Stick to excuses why Fields can't do that.
@@MAHACoach2025 you think a defense that is 25th in points allowed is a good defense? It may shock you to find out they didn't make the playoffs, congrats Russ played great against a team everyone plays great against. You delusional Russ fanboys keep thinking the goal in the NFL is to be 500 and get stomped in the wildcard round. His ceiling is mediocre at best.
Here is why Shady’s point is useless. He should know this from being coached back in high school. For any football team, the BEST defense, is an effective offense. The most effective offense is one that keeps the defense off of the field. While your offense is on the field, your opponent is having generally no opportunity to score. Justin Fields shortens games and keeps the defense on the sideline. Sure, he isn’t putting up wild numbers, but winning 17-6 is a win. 21-10 is a win. 12-7 is a win. Look back at the 2015 Broncos team that won the superbowl. They had two games the entire season where they scored over 30 points. One was 31 and the other was 34. This was, I believe, the only team to give up more yards than they gained throughout the season, yet still with the superbowl. The Steelers can be a run-first, opportunistic passing attack type of team. Basically, the gameplan of Georgia Tech. You dominate the clock and take every single point that you can get. If this means kicking 10 field goals per game, so be it. This gameplan gets the Steelers or really any team into the playoffs.
Shady that’s a super bad take. Justin Fields beat 2 playoff teams and Russ beat 2 playoff teams. And both games Fields loss were by 3 points. Russ first two games were against the Jets and Giants. The Steelers got blown out the last 4 games of the season.
Defense helped Justin barely beat Nix and beat Falcons. The entire team collapsed as a whole against the top teams in the NFL. Similar to the Eagles last year.
No he didn't. Snap out of it. Caleb broke all kinds of Bear rookie records and some NFL records. Stop it. Caleb is a starter. JF is a backup without a team
@@PatriotWatchUSAJustin won 7 games last year with a worse team, with an equally good defense and wayyy more weapons on offense they won 5 games, they should have won 7 based on their defense alone, that’s how bad the offense was, o line was just as bad for Justin and the coaching was worse, so yes, he has so far done worse.
@ - wtf you talking about? Justin Fields won more games last year with less weapons, they had a 7-10 record. This year Caleb won on 5 games with way more weapons and only going 5-12. Everybody and their momma knows that the Bears had a better roster this year than last year. Keep up.
@@PatriotWatchUSAhe’s really not. And they really don’t agree that’s why no one up there said he was trash besides Lesean because they don’t believe it lol
Facts with Russ it was boom or bust Justin kept the chains moving keeping our defense fresh we have to wait till Russ get into rhythm and some times by then the defense is worn out
@ and Russ old legs over throws receivers and don’t see wide open players in the middle of the field 🤷🏾♂️ everyone has it flaws fields gives us the best chance at winning and best chance of getting arch manning if that makes sense
When the Steelers had Russell Wilson under center from week 6 on they played: week 7 Jets, week 8 Giants, week 9 bye, week 10 Commanders, week 11 Ravens, week 12 Browns, week 13 Bengals, week 14 Browns, week 15 Eagles, week 16 Ravens, week 17 Chiefs, week 18 Bengals The funny thing is LeSean won’t talk about the games that the Steelers offense led by Russell turned the football over 5 times.
Yall sad man. Russ was 0-5, never scored more than 17 pts in those loses. Also “can Justin score…” from shady bs, he scored 4 TDs straight to keep us in the colts game. He also scored 30 pts in his last start. Also, Russ has been under 200 in majority of those loses.HE ONLY BEAT BAD TEAMS IN HIS FIRST 6 WINS.
You're bringing in too many facts into this argument. Clearly these guys are full of emotions and living on Russ's super bowl appearance from a decade ago with a loaded team
@@PatriotWatchUSA he just gave you plenty of metrics to grade Russ’s poor performance. Russ also had a worse redzone scoring percentage. Your only rebuttal was shady was right lol. You got it boss.
@BigRuntBRV like he's praising Russ so much who was "fine", not great or elite but fine against bad teams/defenses & he always leaves out context in his arguments everytime 😂
You mentioning Allen and Lamar with Fields is disrespectful in itself. I’m with Shady, like why are we still talking about this dude’s potential? He’s never going to be on the level of the guys like Lamar, Allen, Burrow etc.
@@rellfacts279 Agreed. We see things the same Shady held this stance since day one. He was saying it when I was still giving him the benefit of the doubt.
Yeah never speak football ever again. Hahaha fields will never go to 2 superbowls in 3 years. Lamar, burrow, Allen can't and you think fields would? Hurts was a all pro 2 years ago. That's not a fluke. Hurts is a top 7 QB. Fields is a bottom 5 QB. Russ is bottom 10.
If you don't know that the Steelers need to focus on and support Justin Fields to see if he is the long-term solution at QB you don't know how to construct a winning team and should not speak about....looking at you Shady and James. Russ has shown for 3 seasons that he is not special, he's average, just a backup now; Justin Fields was playing the best of his career when they benched him. You're not winning playoff games with Russ at QB, but you might with Fields and an upgraded running game.
@@PatriotWatchUSA tomlin hasn’t won a playoff game in a decade. You probably think he’s a great coach. You can stop replying to me. I like having sensible conversations.
LeSean is the perfect example of just because you played in the NFL, doesn’t mean you understand the NFL because he’s blaming the defense and wide receivers, but won’t put any blame on Russell Wilson for turning the football over.
So here you go. Russ, with the addition of a good O line and 1 actual #1 receiver (not pickens), beats the Ravens twice, never loses to the browns, and likely defeats the Bengals twice, winning the Division, and putting the steelers in a 1-3 seed position in the playoffs....food for thought.
Like Acho said, Russ is significantly better ESPECIALLY as a passer, for me it means it comes down to how much of a pay cut is Russell willing to take that will be the determining factor.
Acho is wrong, and Russ proved it the end of the season, he is better at the moon ball, but Russ can’t and has never been a good intermediate passer, his legs solved that problem, he simply can’t see the middle of the field well, and that’s one of the things that hurt them in that 5 game losing streak, because he is not longer a mobile QB. Is he better, sure, he isn’t significantly better, and Justin IS significantly more mobile, so when you weigh it up, go with the more mobile and average passer, I have seen his tape, he can throw, and this off season, not having to learn yet another offense, he will get better, he is only a 4th year and 25 years old.
What’s crazy is Fields running ability opens up the offense. Defenders have to keep a spy on him Fields which takes one less person out of coverage Also there’s been about 5-10 more rushing touchdowns that Justin Fields would have had. He has shown that he can throw the ball when he played some pretty good defenses like Denver, San Diego and Indy ( early in season) This myth that Justin Fields can’t be a starting QB needs to stop
The same thing he says Fields does is really close to what his Eagles QB does And the Steelers defense was burnt out because they had to compensate for bad QB play and almost no running game. Makes sense why they started off well and fizzled out
@@SiDung-qg7rn Huh ? Lol I would argue the opposite. I think Lynch and the D made Russ look better than he was. He's basically been Dak Prescott since then. Great numbers, make the playoffs, out in Round 2 at best
at the end of the day shady is right. Russ might’ve stalled at the end of the season but you think that was only him? the play calling, defense, & team as a whole got stagnant. Russ was balling against joe burrow & some of the other guys that are elite.. fields had a nice run last year before being traded out of chicago coming back from injury & a 4-2 stint that wasn’t really all impressive from the QB Standpoint. he had nice runs & a couple good throws but it wasn’t 400 yards & 3 TDs against the bengals good.
Lol it's funny reading these comments. 🤣 At this point, when u watch closely, u can tell shady is playing a character much like Shannon Sharp does when discussing lebron. The truth is that signing Fields allows the Steelers to build up the team better and faster. The Steelers have multiple missing pieces that need to be addressed sooner rather than later. If u sign Russ, u better be finding the long-term replacement asap because yes Russ is still good, but he ain't 5-10 more years good so if u sign him, his replacement needs to be sitting behind him and learning asap. Also just think logically about the scenario. If Fields is trash like some believe him to be, wouldn't that allow for a losing record and a better chance at a high draft pick? If u sign Russ and he's "better," then u make the playoffs, but no Super Bowl and now u can't even draft a good player to make the team better and u definitely aren't drafting a Super Bowl winning quarterback that far back because that's very rare. I'm just pointing out the truth in each scenario with signing each quarterback. Lol but fans and dudes like shady are hilarious 🤣
Fields is bad but he’s not THAT bad. Maybe he’s a barely average QB but he’s not “trash”. Im not a fan of him or the Steelers, I was glad to see Russ got another chance but the outright disrespect for Fields is crazy. Have your opinions but there’s no need to go so crazy with terms like “trash” “he should never start again” etc. Messing with a mans money and livelihood just so you can have opinions on tv.
I would imagine this exact conversation is exactly what Tomlin is running through his head as well. And the rest of the decision makers. AS a fan, I have all the same arguments running in my own head. Now it comes down to the fact that when it comes to FA's, they make their own decisions. As far as the draft goes, that's a whole new drama that play out on draft day.
9:11 now don’t get me wrong they wasn’t the same team as they are now but fields last year with the bears, he beat the commanders actually cooked them up him and DJ😂
shady doesnt hate fields he just wants people too understand how he has a 50% completion percentage for like three seasons with the bears and people wanna treat him like a rookie need atleast 65% too compete nowadays
He doesn’t have a 50% completion percentage lol also you tryna sum up being competitive to a completion percentage stat is so stupid lol how is he tryna get anyone to understand this when he doesn’t even mention it lol
What Fields do to you Shady......whatever happened to let the young qb develop.........cmon fam he needs a real chance in a real system. Tomlin pulled the plug with some fault to Fields but he didnt have the full confidence in the team and that matters to a Qb to be successful
@ he’s not right at all Russ didn’t win went 6-6 that’s terrible football but hey he had touchdowns is the dumbest excuse ever the defense played for fields cause they know they gon win n they did
The steelers offense wasn't that good==bad oline, avg qb, no run game, cancer wr (pickens), bad play calling. It's hard for any qb to win wth that offense!
This defense carried this year! May not have been per standard but russ did not shine🤣 bengals fan here but there better bet is fields over russ. Russ is old and washed. Fields can still be developed
Ok shady fields didn’t play anybody and when Russ did play a defense they only scored 10 ya all sound like fools man for players acting like this is a tough question and I’m a broncos fan Russ is garboncho
@ I’m sorry the rookie who won us 10 games with Russ only getting us 8 could’ve went to the playoffs but squandered it o ok so yea the same guy who has the same stats as Russ as u say as a rookie yes but go ahead put all your eggs in one basket and let’s Russ cook look we’re that got u
@@ryanhallifax2744 I think that’s the difference with Russ is the broncos paid him. He doesn’t need to be paid anymore so the salary cap doesn’t matter anymore. There is actually money left over to fill out the team. If you guys paid him half of what you paid him then he probably would still be out there. He was still solid qb he just not worth the top dollar. But in comparison to last season the offense stats were pretty much the same with everyone playing the first year in the system. The defense played better. I understand yall issue with Russ but that’s not everyone else’s problem.
@ your are right but my problem isn’t the fact they paid management at the time incompetent my problem is the fact tht Russel gets all this praise like he is actually doing something when his stats this year are the same with Sean Payton that’s my issue yes are defense may be playing better but Russ also didn’t play like the top money he got and is still getting fields had better endzone stats efficiency all that but he’s got dogged y praise this dude when he is a shell of himself and then when we asked for him to take a pay cut he acted like we were the bag guys no your playing like hot garbage soo this is wht u get. In terms of filling out the team yes your right they have the money to fill out the team but Russ is still not gonna take them to the promise land
Shady and James are on point. Russ outplayed Burrow when his defense gave up 38 points, outplayed jayden when his defense gave up 27, and outplayed Rodgers in his first game back. Fields can't win shootouts against elite teams, russ did that multiple times this year alone
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I see what acho and Chase are saying from a monetary standpoint but you two are basically making the case for them to go back to what they've been for the last 5 years a good team with a weak quarterback but on the other hand this is the same problem Russell Wilson ran into in Seattle he wants too much money ..bruh got like five contracts you better take two for 50 and quit playing and win I don't think so but clearly he need another super bowl for people to quit hating
This Shady and Justin Fields thing has to be personal
FG vs TD? Uh, they'd be close to the same TDs. Shady is stupid.
Or Maybe Fields is just a bust
Fax lol
@@TheBrotherHoodSportsBingo. Shady watched him in Chicago, unlike most Steelers fans that only saw a few ESPN highlights of Fields runs in Chicago.
@@TheBrotherHoodSportswell how come Russ didn’t win the game in the playoffs I mean the d was good they lost cause of the offense
Before i even watch the video, i already know shady is going to hate on fields per usual
Per my 🥷
He’s not wrong clown
Justin Fields covered up that BS Steelers Offensive Line!
When someone gives Justin Fields a chance, Justin is going to The AFC Championship Game!
Justin Fields only lost 1 damn Game! Not 2
@ 4 and 1? Versus 6-6 is crazy timing. I think it’s his ability to convert on 3rd down. It helped the defense too because the other teams offense were out there less
I want them to keep Fields where he balls out for the sole purpose of watching Shady backtrack and eat his words
Fields idea of Balling out is when he Fumbles (44 fumbles in 44 starts) and everyone yells "Ball Out!"
@@MAHACoach20256 games 1 int hmm sorry you lose this one
Year four when do you think it will happen?
@@PatriotWatchUSA it started in year 4 or Tomlin and the rest are lying about what they saw and they probably know more than either of us about talent.
@@MAHACoach2025 bears are qb cancer
Shady started by naming all the things that Russ needs to be successful and then turns around and says Justin needs too many things
Because Russ needed more talent against great teams. Fields needs help even against bad teams.
@@andref9663But Russell Wilson is a veteran shouldn’t he be able to make anybody better?
@andref9663 all quarterbacks need talent around them. Shady is right justin can't throw the ball.
@@LeetraviusMcKay-q6m No, not at his current age. He's 36. He can't carry teams as well as he used to
@@LeetraviusMcKay-q6m He made Pickens better. Fields made him look terrible.
James disappoints me with his flip on Fields. Shady got something personal with Fields. It's sad and hilarious. How come they wanna give Russ all the weapons which he's had the majority of his career, but Justin ,whose never HAD anything close to that, can't get the same amenities? Shii is redic. Give Jf one yr with stability, just 1
Man, I thought I was the only one to notice that.
Yea it just fields is garbage , that what he got against fields
Shady likes quarterbacks who can throw
@@andref9663Josh Allen can’t throw
@@LeetraviusMcKay-q6m excuse me?😂😂😂
Shady's hate for Fields is WEIRD, like what did bro do to you bruh?
Criticizing his ability to throw isn’t hate.
@@andref966368% completion rate says different from your attempt to say otherwise. nice try though
@@andref9663Bingo, but to the Fields fan boys any criticism of Fields is hate and is not allowed. That's how it was in Chicago. Fans bought the million excuses for Fields in why he stunk but the GMs around the league saw his passing was bad and that's why ZERO teams wanted him as a starter. The same will happen this year. Fields 180 yards passing a game isn't going to change that opinion.
Fields took his girl. SMH
Well he sucks. So he calling it like he sees it. If you watch the seg he mentions others that aren't worthy.
They forget they thought Geno was trash and didn't even start then all of a sudden became a starter out of nowhere. Justin Fields can be better he obviously just needed a better coach/team
This dude Shady got it out for Justin! You can not like a player, but this is insane!
What did he say that was wrong ?
he tired of talking about a bust.
@@tredagreat8351and he said he can't play..... fields numbers and stats were way better than half thenqb that started
Why did defense play better under JF? Because he converted 3rd downs and kept defense off the field
Yea and that's obvious
@@kmald2111 lesser opponents. Kirk cousins, Bo nix, Anthony Richardson, Dak Prescott, Gardner menshew, forgot the last
Compared to
Jayden Daniels, Lamar Jackson Aaron Rodgers, Joe Burrow, Patrick mahommes, Jalen hurts
Yeah they dont understand how the game actually works
@@charlesaskew8619So who did the Steelers play when they had Russell Wilson under center?
Passer rating on 3rd down, passer success % and 1st down passes on 3rd downs all higher for Russ. False talking point.
I think Justin fields took shady girl or something cause his hate for his hate for him is crazy 😂😂😂
His truth speaking bothers you.
@@PatriotWatchUSAhis arguments suck
Shady hate those buckeyes
These guys are goofy
Sounds that way lol
I'm not defending Fields but he has never been properly developed.He won more games in Chicago with lesser team then Caleb did.Just saying he has been let down by his coaches in some part.
Another Justinsexual crying
I think u can still see talent with not the best coaching. Andy Reid was 1 of the few good coaches prior to Mahomes. Did you see Bill as a head coach before and after Brady? Also Pete Caroll had loosing seasons before Russ. Justin hasn't shown outside of running that he can compete at a high level in the NFL.
Facts. JF hasn't been properly coached
Wait till you found out that Russ wasn’t really scoring that much tds 😂
Outside bengals game
They couldn't of really looked at any stats russ was not that good once he played better teams. He also didn't "win" the super bowl that would be the defense and why a defensive player won sb mvp
@ who threw the game winning td pass in the mfc championship game? he then followed it up with the 2nd highest QBR in superbowl history. But yea, it was the defense that was 7-9 the year before russ lol
Wait til you find out Justin lost every game the defense allowed more than 14 points. Or wait till u find out most his TDs were in games Steelers lost 🤯🫨
@ wait till you find out i never mentioned Justin at all in my statement
@@tredagreat8351wait till you find out Russ averaged 14 points in the last 5 games
I would sign fields and build
Yup those 5 touchdowns in 6 games while being inaccurate solidified Justin as the future😭👎🏿
What you building?
Russ lost 5 str8 games and choked in the Playoffs 😂😂 @@Dipset415
But has Fields proven himself yet? I don't see it with Justin!! I'll see him on another team.
@@Dipset415It was 10TDs to 1 INT you halfwit
I hope Justin Fields can find a coach that will give him a Real Opportunity!
Justin Fields hasn't had that since The Ohio State University!
Preach
Facts
@@shaquille26ableexactly he was a monster at Ohio state hate the bears organization let him down smh
You just made Shadys point.
@@Jeremy-ny3wt Why do Toads mention the Breas? He's been a Steeler for a year now. He's now the Steelers trash or should I say nobodys trash.
Fields reminds me of Hurts without the Philly talent
Is marijuana legal in your state?>
Fields is more dangerous than hurt fields is just as dangerous as Lamar Jackson with his legs
Lmao what evidence do you have of this from college or years in the NFL do you have to say that Fields is just as good as Hurts besides your own bias towards Justin?
Shady should come on here and admit why he hate Fields, because it is NOT football related
He named all the reasons. You can’t name a reason to like Justin besides potential and speed
100% football related. Hes said it from the start. His point is valid. Why keep bringing up a terrible player.
@@PatriotWatchUSAit really don’t even matter anyone that knows football for real knows lesean mccoy is not good at being an “analyst” I know people gon say how good he was and he played lol but I really want people to know this a lot of good players do not really know the game or study it lol especially at his position
I bet he wouldn't say any of that to Justin Fields face Shady a coward James J rides his coat tails.smh
@@VvVT734 fields has 0 memorable games
Shady's hatred for Fields in 2025 is so weird...Russ beat the Ravens by fields goals, beats the bengals aka the horrendous defense that fired their dc & the commanders with a rookie qb & a terrible defense. Idk what Shady is on tbh...
And who did fields beat? and by how many points? He doesn't score so shady is right
@jahquanfoster6974 he beat the Chargers & Broncos & actually scored tds against them 🤷♂️
Both QBs have their significant problems. It's not like Philip Rivers and Drew Brees. Russell isn't winning the game outside of a controlled environment, and Justin would need an OC like Greg Roman to maximize him. Either way they need to look outside the room for their next QB. Like a Sam Darnold or the backup for Patriots.
@@jahquanfoster6974he’s not tho russ did nothing different than fields this year he had more tds but more game impacting mistakes as well
Look at how badly you’re reaching to criticize Russ. Russ balled out against bad teams. Fields lost to bad teams. That’s the difference. Russ can do more with less.
2 things will always be true on this show, Shady is going to hate on Justin Fields and he’s going to talk in cursive 😂
What he say that was wrong ?
@@tredagreat8351 Nothing. Shady been right since day 1
Shady give Russel Wilson 1000 excuses why he like him so much 🤣🤣
Facts !
Shady hates Justin so much!😂
Russell deserves the excuses. Unlike Fields, he didn’t lose to bad teams.
@@andref9663c’mon I’ll put fields in don’t get me wrong russell is a beast but c’mon you seen the results this season ijs
And Justin gets 1million excuses. The difference is Justin hasn’t won one game where the Steelers defense gave up more than 14points. No one ever called Justin good or great. They just say potential, ceiling and he’s fast and “he went 4-2(wins aren’t a qb stat).”
Can anyone explain Shady without saying he is 100% a hater?
Yes he's a truther. been right since day one
Not true do yoy not remember all the bs caleb takes just because he hate fields. Caleb was horrible but made it seem like he was going to make the bears a contender@PatriotWatchUSA
Fields kept the defense well rested that’s probably why. Also Russ just lost his playoff game😭
The time of possession with Fields was 45 seconds more. I ran the numbers. You actually think 45 seconds more of rest in an entire game actually makes a difference? I think not.
@@MAHACoach2025 Nice comment.... way to do the work
If we are keeping it a buck, Wilson didn’t beat anyone notable either, they beat the ravens one time with field goals and they beat the bengals with a bad defense, I say give justin fields a chance, he is cheaper and easier to build around
And they beat the Bengals with 400+ yards passing and 3 TD passes thanks to Russ.
@@MAHACoach2025clearly you didn't watch the Bengals defense all season.
@JoePesos 25th in points allowed. Russ scored most points 44 against them and most yards by an offense against them. Stop making excuses for why Russ was great in a shootout. Stick to excuses why Fields can't do that.
@@MAHACoach2025 you think a defense that is 25th in points allowed is a good defense? It may shock you to find out they didn't make the playoffs, congrats Russ played great against a team everyone plays great against. You delusional Russ fanboys keep thinking the goal in the NFL is to be 500 and get stomped in the wildcard round. His ceiling is mediocre at best.
He beat bengals and commanders …
Here is why Shady’s point is useless. He should know this from being coached back in high school. For any football team, the BEST defense, is an effective offense. The most effective offense is one that keeps the defense off of the field. While your offense is on the field, your opponent is having generally no opportunity to score. Justin Fields shortens games and keeps the defense on the sideline. Sure, he isn’t putting up wild numbers, but winning 17-6 is a win. 21-10 is a win. 12-7 is a win. Look back at the 2015 Broncos team that won the superbowl. They had two games the entire season where they scored over 30 points. One was 31 and the other was 34. This was, I believe, the only team to give up more yards than they gained throughout the season, yet still with the superbowl.
The Steelers can be a run-first, opportunistic passing attack type of team. Basically, the gameplan of Georgia Tech. You dominate the clock and take every single point that you can get. If this means kicking 10 field goals per game, so be it. This gameplan gets the Steelers or really any team into the playoffs.
Oline sucks. Ger rid of the oc too he s brutal
So that g.plan has no chance
Exactly this team wasn’t built to be in shootouts
You wonder why the defense was so good for fields
Complimentary football
Shady is right. Stop it. You don't know what you are watching
Fields is legit just like hurts y does shady hate fields sooo much?
@@s2k_blitz388 he hates him because of comments like these.
@@TheBrotherHoodSportsshady hated on hurts early in his career
Because he sucks
They r not the same! Hurts chooses when to play the way people think he should. He went toe to toe against Mahomes. Never saw Fields do such a thing.
Shady that’s a super bad take. Justin Fields beat 2 playoff teams and Russ beat 2 playoff teams. And both games Fields loss were by 3 points. Russ first two games were against the Jets and Giants. The Steelers got blown out the last 4 games of the season.
I can’t take this show seriously anymore. L takes.
@@cashrodgers8624 by two teams that are in the Super Bowl and the ravens. The bengals wasn’t a blowout.
@@NPC8474Because they never want to challenge LeSean like he’s somebody to be afraid of.
Justin didn’t beat two playoff teams the defense did. Justin hasn’t beat ANY TEAM that scored over 14points
Not two play-ff teams Stop it already. They got blown out because they were out classed from start to finish
“Justin Fields wins because of the defense!” “Russell Wilson loses because of the defense!” -shady 🙄
What a pathetic hypocritical analyst
Yet he right. He's been right
@ he’s often wrong and is about this too
Defense helped Justin barely beat Nix and beat Falcons. The entire team collapsed as a whole against the top teams in the NFL. Similar to the Eagles last year.
McCoy is hollering as though he has been hit ? Lol He has a personal grievance with Fields to some degree.
The apologies better be as loud as the disrespect
Going into year 5. When should he have that apology ready? Year 10?
Caleb Williams did worse than Justin Fields at Chicago
No he didn't. Snap out of it. Caleb broke all kinds of Bear rookie records and some NFL records. Stop it. Caleb is a starter. JF is a backup without a team
@@PatriotWatchUSAJustin won 7 games last year with a worse team, with an equally good defense and wayyy more weapons on offense they won 5 games, they should have won 7 based on their defense alone, that’s how bad the offense was, o line was just as bad for Justin and the coaching was worse, so yes, he has so far done worse.
@@PatriotWatchUSAthank you
@ Complete nonsense nor does anyone care. You haven't a clue what you are talking about. NONE>
@ - wtf you talking about? Justin Fields won more games last year with less weapons, they had a 7-10 record. This year Caleb won on 5 games with way more weapons and only going 5-12. Everybody and their momma knows that the Bears had a better roster this year than last year. Keep up.
Yeah his dislike for Fields is crazy, look at his face and how flustered he gets. Calm down bro he's not as bad as your claims.
He actually is and he been saying it since day one. Everyone else on the panel agrees
@@PatriotWatchUSAhe’s really not. And they really don’t agree that’s why no one up there said he was trash besides Lesean because they don’t believe it lol
Justin Fields legs gave them extra possessions and gave the defense time to rest
Facts with Russ it was boom or bust Justin kept the chains moving keeping our defense fresh we have to wait till Russ get into rhythm and some times by then the defense is worn out
Yep the defense played better because of Fields.
@@soufeast_ant6469 I wouldn’t say that but he did allow them to stay off the field more often
Justin legs missed wide open receivers down the field and instead of a 30+ yards gain it’s 8yard runs. Which then lead to field goals or punts
@ and Russ old legs over throws receivers and don’t see wide open players in the middle of the field 🤷🏾♂️ everyone has it flaws fields gives us the best chance at winning and best chance of getting arch manning if that makes sense
When the Steelers had Russell Wilson under center from week 6 on they played: week 7 Jets, week 8 Giants, week 9 bye, week 10 Commanders, week 11 Ravens, week 12 Browns, week 13 Bengals, week 14 Browns, week 15 Eagles, week 16 Ravens, week 17 Chiefs, week 18 Bengals
The funny thing is LeSean won’t talk about the games that the Steelers offense led by Russell turned the football over 5 times.
That's NOT a lot of turnovers!!!!! Goff threw 5 INTs alone in ONE game!!!!
Yes, go with Fields so we can go and acquire talent. If Fields doesn't work out, draft a QB. Don't dump money into an aging QB
I agree wth you but kirk cousins got 100m guaranteed at age 36 coming off a Achilles. That made no sense.
Yall sad man. Russ was 0-5, never scored more than 17 pts in those loses. Also “can Justin score…” from shady bs, he scored 4 TDs straight to keep us in the colts game. He also scored 30 pts in his last start.
Also, Russ has been under 200 in majority of those loses.HE ONLY BEAT BAD TEAMS IN HIS FIRST 6 WINS.
You're bringing in too many facts into this argument. Clearly these guys are full of emotions and living on Russ's super bowl appearance from a decade ago with a loaded team
@@PatriotWatchUSA he just gave you plenty of metrics to grade Russ’s poor performance. Russ also had a worse redzone scoring percentage. Your only rebuttal was shady was right lol. You got it boss.
So Justin without better pieces dont get better results? This makes ZERO sense.
Russ just gets better results with better pieces, because he's the better QB. This isn't rocket science.
@@marc-gomes yep, that 6 and 6 proves that.
Fields smashed Shady girl, that’s the only explanation for this level of hate
Shady just continues speaking nonsense...
Complete nonsense 😂
@BigRuntBRV like he's praising Russ so much who was "fine", not great or elite but fine against bad teams/defenses & he always leaves out context in his arguments everytime 😂
shady is pretty dumb, hes only there because practice squad acho idolize him
@birgermunter5638 😂😂😂
@@MattShanley-bb6qsthe offense was trash. They literally only had Pickens and Russ. Nobody can overcome that
Yeah Shady too emotional on this one 😂😂😂
It’s Justin Fields easy answer. Yall don’t know sports.
Yeah that's why they are on a sport analyst show lol
Have at it hoss. U can't run the qb on every play.
@@1inchpunisher715 it’s called hating my friend.
@@dgreen19731exactly he’s already been beat up in Chicago hopefully the Steelers will be better than ever next year
@@1inchpunisher715skip bayless was a sports analyst 🤣not saying much
Why is it so difficult for Shady to comprehend why guys like Allen and Lamar are held to a higher standard than a Justin Fields...?
You mentioning Allen and Lamar with Fields is disrespectful in itself. I’m with Shady, like why are we still talking about this dude’s potential? He’s never going to be on the level of the guys like Lamar, Allen, Burrow etc.
@@rellfacts279 Agreed. We see things the same Shady held this stance since day one. He was saying it when I was still giving him the benefit of the doubt.
Keep fields and draft a QB. Use the money to help the defense and offense
All this hate is why I hope Fields has a comeback like Darnold. So quick to write people off who go to the worst situations imaginable.
Chase does that cause he was a regular middle of the pack QB💯
Shady man you being harsh af on justin 🤣 seems personal 💯
Calling that man trash on tv is wrong
He is trash
Crazy shady says all that about fields but praises hurts for handing the ball to Barkley and gets carried by the defense😂
Fields would be better than Hurts if he had all the talent the eagles had !!
Nah
@@feladodd5953You sure about that?
@@LeetraviusMcKay-q6m YES Nobody was beating down the dooors for JF last off season and Im not real sure anything has changed
Stop it!
Yeah never speak football ever again. Hahaha fields will never go to 2 superbowls in 3 years. Lamar, burrow, Allen can't and you think fields would? Hurts was a all pro 2 years ago. That's not a fluke. Hurts is a top 7 QB. Fields is a bottom 5 QB. Russ is bottom 10.
If you don't know that the Steelers need to focus on and support Justin Fields to see if he is the long-term solution at QB you don't know how to construct a winning team and should not speak about....looking at you Shady and James. Russ has shown for 3 seasons that he is not special, he's average, just a backup now; Justin Fields was playing the best of his career when they benched him. You're not winning playoff games with Russ at QB, but you might with Fields and an upgraded running game.
Every time Shady hates, that bald spot gets bigger and bigger...lol!
😂😂😂
It’s Justin Fields and it isn’t close. Crazy to think these were former ball players with such dogass takes
Shows why these guys couldn't be in the front office lol
Funny the Head Coach feels the same way as these dogass takes
@@isiahnelsoniv Tomlin feels the same way. Soooo maybe someone else is the idiot?
@@PatriotWatchUSA tomlin hasn’t won a playoff game in a decade. You probably think he’s a great coach. You can stop replying to me. I like having sensible conversations.
LeSean is the perfect example of just because you played in the NFL, doesn’t mean you understand the NFL because he’s blaming the defense and wide receivers, but won’t put any blame on Russell Wilson for turning the football over.
Shady has been right since day one.
Wilson headed to the Raiders .....Give Fields the job and turn him loose
Turn him loose to run around and do what?
Keep fields obviously
Obviously?
bro cannot complete a pass to save his life
@@yankostanchev2102that doesn’t even make sense
@@stevenedwardsjryes obviously
@@NPC8474 So obvious he was benched for a washed up vet
Kinda crazy how James Jones was sayin the bears should trade the top pick and build around fields now he sayin he not a starter 🤔🤔🤔
So here you go. Russ, with the addition of a good O line and 1 actual #1 receiver (not pickens), beats the Ravens twice, never loses to the browns, and likely defeats the Bengals twice, winning the Division, and putting the steelers in a 1-3 seed position in the playoffs....food for thought.
Russ beat Mahomes and Allen last season with a shaky team
Shady should really stop hating on JF2
He will when he doesnt have to talk about him. Did you listen to what was said?
Like Acho said, Russ is significantly better ESPECIALLY as a passer, for me it means it comes down to how much of a pay cut is Russell willing to take that will be the determining factor.
Acho is wrong, and Russ proved it the end of the season, he is better at the moon ball, but Russ can’t and has never been a good intermediate passer, his legs solved that problem, he simply can’t see the middle of the field well, and that’s one of the things that hurt them in that 5 game losing streak, because he is not longer a mobile QB. Is he better, sure, he isn’t significantly better, and Justin IS significantly more mobile, so when you weigh it up, go with the more mobile and average passer, I have seen his tape, he can throw, and this off season, not having to learn yet another offense, he will get better, he is only a 4th year and 25 years old.
Shady is low down dating Russ after Fields turned him down 😂
Shady is full of it. PERIOD.
Yet he right 100% right
What’s crazy is Fields running ability opens up the offense. Defenders have to keep a spy on him Fields which takes one less person out of coverage
Also there’s been about 5-10 more rushing touchdowns that Justin Fields would have had. He has shown that he can throw the ball when he played some pretty good defenses like Denver, San Diego and Indy ( early in season)
This myth that Justin Fields can’t be a starting QB needs to stop
Nobody afraid of JF. Packers and Vikings new how to play him.
@ Denver and chargers surely didn’t , 2 top defenses this past season
@@PatriotWatchUSA Both teams said they were glad JF was traded because they disliked facing him, not the bears team.
The same thing he says Fields does is really close to what his Eagles QB does
And the Steelers defense was burnt out because they had to compensate for bad QB play and almost no running game. Makes sense why they started off well and fizzled out
? lol What? You were out played and out classed. Those last teams were far better thabn your team. Wilson made you look good
Shady you terrible bruh. Saying fields is trash is crazy work
Yet he was a bench warmer. Yeah super crazy
Russell Wilson been to two super bowls with a legendary defense.
Russ made that defense looked better than it was.
@@SiDung-qg7rnSo what about in the Super Bowl when Russell Wilson threw that pick in the end zone to Malcolm Butler to end the game?
@@SiDung-qg7rn Huh ? Lol I would argue the opposite. I think Lynch and the D made Russ look better than he was. He's basically been Dak Prescott since then. Great numbers, make the playoffs, out in Round 2 at best
@@LeetraviusMcKay-q6m That I think was more of a Darrell Bevell issue than Russ
So get him a legendary defense and a rb duh
Shady calling Fields trash is disrespectful.McCoy didn't help the Chiefs or Buffalo.If he was all that he would have taken Philly to the Superbowl.
Shady never took a team to the championship.....and was no help in the ring he got 😂
Long time Steelers fan here…. What James Jones said is EXACTLY how I feel!!!
He’s full of hate for Fields also
You need all this stuff for Justin to be good
Yet Russ needs better defense new line more recievers
Just say you hate fields
Nobody said Russ needs betetr D. Now you making stuff up. ITS ALWAYS JF needs this and needs that. He right
@ litterally said russ needed a better everything. You are under the video
You are lying
at the end of the day shady is right. Russ might’ve stalled at the end of the season but you think that was only him? the play calling, defense, & team as a whole got stagnant. Russ was balling against joe burrow & some of the other guys that are elite.. fields had a nice run last year before being traded out of chicago coming back from injury & a 4-2 stint that wasn’t really all impressive from the QB Standpoint. he had nice runs & a couple good throws but it wasn’t 400 yards & 3 TDs against the bengals good.
THANK YOU SHADY AND JAMES JONES FOR BRINGING COMMON SENSE ON THIS TOPIC!!
These people in the comments are loco. Comparing Fields barely being Bo Nix vs losing to top Super Bowl appearing teams.
Russ is cooked pun intended
Shady hates that man Justin fields lol
You young people and using the word hate all the time. Shady says JF sucks and he right. Tired of talking about it.
@ Ive seen you comment under so many videos of people trashing Justin fields lol i don’t know if you hating to or you’re secretly a fan
Dude Girl Must Love Justin Fields Cuz his Hatred for fields is Wild maybe Bro secretly a rainbow and loves fields and wants his attention who knows
Everyone was dropping 30 on the Bengals
Lol it's funny reading these comments. 🤣 At this point, when u watch closely, u can tell shady is playing a character much like Shannon Sharp does when discussing lebron. The truth is that signing Fields allows the Steelers to build up the team better and faster. The Steelers have multiple missing pieces that need to be addressed sooner rather than later. If u sign Russ, u better be finding the long-term replacement asap because yes Russ is still good, but he ain't 5-10 more years good so if u sign him, his replacement needs to be sitting behind him and learning asap. Also just think logically about the scenario. If Fields is trash like some believe him to be, wouldn't that allow for a losing record and a better chance at a high draft pick? If u sign Russ and he's "better," then u make the playoffs, but no Super Bowl and now u can't even draft a good player to make the team better and u definitely aren't drafting a Super Bowl winning quarterback that far back because that's very rare. I'm just pointing out the truth in each scenario with signing each quarterback. Lol but fans and dudes like shady are hilarious 🤣
Fields is bad but he’s not THAT bad.
Maybe he’s a barely average QB but he’s not “trash”.
Im not a fan of him or the Steelers, I was glad to see Russ got another chance but the outright disrespect for Fields is crazy.
Have your opinions but there’s no need to go so crazy with terms like “trash” “he should never start again” etc.
Messing with a mans money and livelihood just so you can have opinions on tv.
Jones saying russ can get you to a super bowl is laughable😂😂😂 he must of forgot pat, lamar, allen, burrow are all in the afc lol
At best, Steelers win a Wild Card game
same thing i was thinking shady, deffly bring back russ man
So y’all just doing this show to punch down and crash out on Justin Fields? Why?
Everyone is talking about it on all channels. So they shouldn't tell the truth?> They should suck up to a bad QB?
I would imagine this exact conversation is exactly what Tomlin is running through his head as well. And the rest of the decision makers. AS a fan, I have all the same arguments running in my own head. Now it comes down to the fact that when it comes to FA's, they make their own decisions. As far as the draft goes, that's a whole new drama that play out on draft day.
He said only Russ could beat Lamar lol
Steelers been beating Lamar with way worse qbs it’s a division game
9:11 now don’t get me wrong they wasn’t the same team as they are now but fields last year with the bears, he beat the commanders actually cooked them up him and DJ😂
Russell Wilson has never been better than Justin Fields, ever!
Go look at the stats. Russ had 3500 pass yards 850 rush yards 30td his 3rd year in the league.
lol Russ' stats this year is Justin's best stat...that should end this debate
“Never” is crazy 😂
You just started watching football this year, huh? 😂
@@feladodd5953EXACTLY!!
If we still got Arthur Smith, put Justin Fields in.
Russ be throwing get you hurt balls 😂😂😂
Justin Fields is a legend at throwing hospital balls
shady doesnt hate fields he just wants people too understand how he has a 50% completion percentage for like three seasons with the bears and people wanna treat him like a rookie
need atleast 65% too compete nowadays
He doesn’t have a 50% completion percentage lol also you tryna sum up being competitive to a completion percentage stat is so stupid lol how is he tryna get anyone to understand this when he doesn’t even mention it lol
Calab also looks bad for Bears.
The level of hate shady has towards Justin is insane. What did bruh do to you?
He sucks and he tired of talking about it
What Fields do to you Shady......whatever happened to let the young qb develop.........cmon fam he needs a real chance in a real system. Tomlin pulled the plug with some fault to Fields but he didnt have the full confidence in the team and that matters to a Qb to be successful
Lamar literally sniffed it too wtf lol i can’t stand this watching these shows man i can’t
Russ went to playoffs n got up outta there so his argument means nothing n fields scored touchdowns also not just field goals
Shady a clown period
Yet he right
@ he’s not right at all Russ didn’t win went 6-6 that’s terrible football but hey he had touchdowns is the dumbest excuse ever the defense played for fields cause they know they gon win n they did
The steelers offense wasn't that good==bad oline, avg qb, no run game, cancer wr (pickens), bad play calling. It's hard for any qb to win wth that offense!
The Steelers need another offensive coordinator bc Author Smith is trash..
This defense carried this year! May not have been per standard but russ did not shine🤣 bengals fan here but there better bet is fields over russ. Russ is old and washed. Fields can still be developed
Disgusting video. The hate for Fields is pathetic.
You mean the truth of JF disturbs you. Find a safe space
@ What team do you root for and why are you so filled with hate for Fields?
I don't think that fields would accept $5m. I think he would prefer to make more as a backup.
Ok shady fields didn’t play anybody and when Russ did play a defense they only scored 10 ya all sound like fools man for players acting like this is a tough question and I’m a broncos fan Russ is garboncho
The guy you think is the guy has the exact same numbers as Russ last year. Your defense just played better.
@ I’m sorry the rookie who won us 10 games with Russ only getting us 8 could’ve went to the playoffs but squandered it o ok so yea the same guy who has the same stats as Russ as u say as a rookie yes but go ahead put all your eggs in one basket and let’s Russ cook look we’re that got u
@@ryanhallifax2744 I think that’s the difference with Russ is the broncos paid him. He doesn’t need to be paid anymore so the salary cap doesn’t matter anymore. There is actually money left over to fill out the team. If you guys paid him half of what you paid him then he probably would still be out there.
He was still solid qb he just not worth the top dollar. But in comparison to last season the offense stats were pretty much the same with everyone playing the first year in the system. The defense played better. I understand yall issue with Russ but that’s not everyone else’s problem.
@ your are right but my problem isn’t the fact they paid management at the time incompetent my problem is the fact tht Russel gets all this praise like he is actually doing something when his stats this year are the same with Sean Payton that’s my issue yes are defense may be playing better but Russ also didn’t play like the top money he got and is still getting fields had better endzone stats efficiency all that but he’s got dogged y praise this dude when he is a shell of himself and then when we asked for him to take a pay cut he acted like we were the bag guys no your playing like hot garbage soo this is wht u get.
In terms of filling out the team yes your right they have the money to fill out the team but Russ is still not gonna take them to the promise land
@@ryanhallifax2744 you are thinking logically. Nice to know not everyone thinks like Shady and James lol.
Shady and James are on point. Russ outplayed Burrow when his defense gave up 38 points, outplayed jayden when his defense gave up 27, and outplayed Rodgers in his first game back. Fields can't win shootouts against elite teams, russ did that multiple times this year alone
Bengals and Jets were quite far from from elite. And the Commanders defense just gave up 55
@@isiahnelsoniv you do realize fields got destroyed by the colts and cowboys backups right?
@@send6pray they lost by 3 points to both teams. You realize the steelers lost 5 in a row with Russ as the starter right?
I’m not a huge Fields fan but I want to smack Shady for him. Whatever hate he has for Justin sounds wayyyy tooo personal
Maybe he tired of talking about a bust.
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Shady Russ will go to another Superbowl! I agree with you bro!