Why Mephiles is Shadow's Best Foe | Mephiles Month
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- Опубліковано 3 лис 2019
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Solaris Phase 1 from Sonic the Hedgehog 2006
The Black Shadow from Sonic the Hedgehog 2006
Mephiles Phase 1 from Sonic the Hedgehog 2006
White Acropolis: The Base from Sonic the Hedgehog 2006
Flame Core: The Volcano from Sonic the Hedgehog 2006
ANOTHER HIM from Deltarune
Flame Core: The Cavern from Sonic the Hedgehog 2006
The Resurrection of Mephiles from Sonic the Hedgehog 2006
Solaris Phase 2 from Sonic the Hedgehog 2006
Mephiles Phase 2 from Sonic the Hedgehog 2006 - Розваги
Mephiles is Shadow’s Shadow, Literally AND Metaphorically. The perfect Antagonist!
My mind is blown🤯
Is it possible that mephiles is Solaris but without iblis hes not fully Solaris without iblis
I noticed the symbol of Solaris is on mephiles his chest
Your comment got a heart:3
Thanks for the compliment.
"If the world chooses to become my enemy... I will fight like I always have!"
Never forget the most badass line in existence.
That's gonna be my line someday
theultimategamer95 Me too
Me too
@@bruh_ruok4081 me too
Yall ain't using shit. Yall not even half the person shadow is.
I feel like Maria is Shadow's guardian angel whereas Mephiles is his inner demon
True
I personally see Mephiles as Shadow's final repemption. Like Shadow sees Mephiles as what he could've become. So taking down this darkness is his way of truly moving on from his past.
The moment when Mephiles reveals his crystalline form along with his intent to kill is a moment I’ll never forget.
Top 10 anime heel turns
"I think it's about time Shadow had some kind of clone-like rival of his own."
Eclipse: *Am I a joke to you?*
List of Shadow's clone like rivals 1)Elite Shadow Android Squad (2P Battle Mode of Shadow the Hedgehog)
2)Mephiles the Dark, 3)Eclipse. Those are the most important the Mephiles we know who knows Shadow probably will never return even if we get an alternate timeline's Mephiles to appear. Eclipse is comic exclusive, although would be great for a 2nd Shadow the Hedgehog game. That leaves the Elite Shadow Android Squad & Does Infinite count because of the Phantom Ruby clones?
That was my exact thought when I saw even just the thumbnail-
yes, yes he is a joke. from all the villans who has a personal vendeta vs Shadow he is the second worst. MY list goes on with 1st Mephiles 2nd BlackDoom 3rd Eclipe 4th Infinite
yeah but
who the fuck is eclipse?
@@spartanwar1185 a character in the shadow fall comic
Honestly Shadow's 06 story should've been a Shadow 2 game
I just realized. Mephiles has reptilian eyes. Green, evil snake like eyes. Then it hit me, the Prototype of The Ultimate Lifeform was The Bio Lizard, a giant monstrous reptile. Which kinda lends credence to the idea of Mephiles representing Shadow’s inner demons and dark past. It’s an extremely loose connection with little else holding it up, I admit; but it was interesting when I thought of it.
That's actually insane to think about
Rouge: what would you like for breakfast, Shadow?
Mephiles: the souls of the innocent
Shadow: a bagel
Mephiles: No!
Shadow: two bagels
Always found it odd how they play the old "Knuckles gets tricked by Dr. Eggman and fights Sonic, only to realize he was wrong," card, instead of exploring _Shadow's_ evil side more (after Shadow the Hedgehog and Sonic 06), and how he struggles with staying good. Sort of like Vegeta and Loki. A mental reincarnation of Mephiles would be pretty interesting to introduce into Shadow's psyche, or a physical reincarnation if they can somehow justify it.
There can't be a Yin without a Yan and since there are no other TRUE villains in the sonic universe, Mephy fits perfectly and by default.
7:45 - I never thought about it that way... But it's true. Remember the first interaction Shadow had with Eggman in SA2? Shadow acted towards Eggman in a very similar way Mephiles acts to Shadow now. Shadow was tempting Eggman by promising him what he wanted, while lying to him about his true intention. He didn't intend to rule the world at Eggman's side, he wanted to destroy it.
Shadow now turned fully good, but I wonder what went on in his mind looking back at the reflection of his past self in such a manner.
Maybe in the future if Mephiles ever appears again, Shadow might want to attempt to... "redeem" Mephiles. To give him chance to get to the same path he did. But that would be a mistake. Because Mephiles is not a person but a demon. No mercy or good will can never work with him. And that's the way Mephiles could abuse Shadow's good nature in the future. He tried to abuse Shadow's more evil tendencies like lust for revenge - and it didn't work. Now he can try to abuse his compassion.
Fun fact the shadow vs mephiles is like neo vs agent smith. At least from remembering that from sonic news network.
In the game files, there are TONS of deleted cutscenes in all stories and even the final episode, and after the solaris fight, which meant there might have been a conclusion to mephiles and shadow in the later builds of 06? FYI, the retail build of 06 is a prototype build as shown by missing cutscenes, gameplay elements shown in the E3 demo, XBLA demo and TGS 2006 demo, missing shaders and different story opening in the manual as well.
It's likely these lost cutscenes contain how Blaze ended up in Silver's Future.
Any way the context of the files can be read or viewed?
Is there a way to see the deleted cut-scenes?
This intriges me. Any progress on seeing them?
Shadow's arc was so good in 06
And I kinda do miss mephlies
But it's for the better cause some people don't want to be reminded of Sonic 2006 (and I'm chill with the game sometimes lol)
I think Shadow needs a real nemesis and I think Mephiles is a good contender but the only problem is bringing him back but I think I have an idea on how that can happen Eggman is going to start experimenting on timelines using the same technology as the time eater meanwhile using the phantom ruby and/or the chaos emeralds and/or hyper-go-on energy and that will allow Mephiles to appear from another timeline allowing him to make a reappearance in sonic games
I stil think the Same thing I said the last time in your "why sonic fans still want mephiles to come back video" that I don't want mephiles to return because they will ruin him for what his character is or represent.
I would love to see mephiles return in a way that still does make him a interesting Villain, as 06 try't to do. With his character still being the same but with diffrent motivation.
but I know that with all the bad comidic type of story way sonic games like forces, colours, Generations, and lost world type of games trope would still continue in future. I do not want interesting characters like mephiles get to be seen as less serious, or just seen as nothing but a joke by are main characters in game, with there crappy jokes all over the way in game.
I want to enjoy a character return in the right way. with the Main characters acting like Them selfs again, and show/act why these villians are a serious threath that should be stoped again, when they come back if needed.
I know that they would not do that. but it would be a shame seeing them ruin mephiles if he would return in a way in these pathetic joke type of games
Makes you wonder how cool, threatening, and terrifying Mephiles could be in the comics.
Mephiles is probally the best Villan/Foe for Shadow (And even the series)!
I'm ready to get stated with mephiles moth.
Mephiles Moth
The Archie comics had Eclipse the Darkling, who is like a clone of Shadow and fits the role similar to Metal Sonic for Shadow.
If they reworked the story I guess they could have Black Doom and his people worship Mephiles and seek to revive Solaris. Of course that means they would also be scouring the universe for the missing Iblis half in order to put them back together. Hey maybe you could have Blaze be its new incarnation (I don't think anyone would complain much if I retconned Elise). And if you want to use some stuff from the Archie comics, Shadow also had a new brother named Eclipse. If you split shadow into a Hedgehog half and an Alien half, Sonic would resemble the former and Eclipse would be the latter.
Still would like to see a video on Enerjak if you feel like it. The only character I can think of who would threaten Solaris in a direct fight (Not counting the three hedgehog team up).
It'd be pretty cool if Mephiles actually returned as an antagonist to Sonic and friends, but mainly on Shadow. Seeing how things recently made Shadow a complete opposite since Sonic 06, I find it jarring that Shadow being handled by the writers is just wrong. But the question is how would things played out if Mephiles were to return? Well, lets take an example from Kingdom Hearts. Riku goes through a similar arc to Shadow by learning his mistakes on fully giving into the darkness and not keeping his balance of the light in complete check. Ansem the Seeker of Darkness plays in a bit of a Mephiles type role trying to convince Riku just so he can regain control over his body as a vessel. In KH Chain of Memories, Riku has an encounter with his replica self, who pretty much wants to be the real deal only to be defeated and face oblivion, only to make a return in KH3 as a self an inner angel giving Riku the power to face the darkness when searching for Aqua and taking down Replica Riku 2.0 to sacrifice himself as the world already has a Riku.
Now you're probably wondering what I'm getting at here, but I'll try to sum it up in the most simple way possible. Seeing how Solaris got destroyed at the end of Sonic 06, in a rewrite Mephiles and Iblis would be separated again instead of reverted back to normal like in the game, both Iblis and Mephiles would be lost souls trying to find new homes to seek vengeance against Sonic and friends in some degree. Iblis being Silver's inner demon and Mephiles being Shadow's. Iblis being a complete monster would have some of Mephiles's traits and Mephiles has some of Iblis's as well since they both fused together into Solaris. For their new forms I may have some ideas in mind in the making if you guys would like to see my designs of them if they were to return as Shadow and Silver's demons. As for the inner angels, Maria would be Shadow's angel and Silver's would probably be Elise and or Blaze due to having the power of flames in their bloodline, but since Blaze is from another dimension and Silver is from the future it'd likely make more sense for Elise to be an inner angel as Crisis City must have been a future corrupted Soleana and Silver must have heard stories of the princess and Solaris during his youth against the battle of Iblis. Back to Mephiles, Mephiles would serve as a reminder to Shadow if he were to go down a dark path, he would take his word for it and not follow the darkness Mephiles warns Shadow about and challenges him if he goes against what Mephiles wants instead of Shadow, he'd put up a fight with his shadow powers and part of Iblis's fire powers (having a bit of a yin and yang demon like battle).
One other thing about Mephiles, I posted this comment on one of your oldest videos "Could Mephiles return". So I figured why not bring something up from the under a flood of comments. Here's what I originally said:
I think your idea could work, but in my opinion, something about Shadow the Hedgehog, the game not the character, seemed to be a little out of place. Granted I understand why it's there in a story telling point of view, but Doom being a link to Mephiles's origin sounds... I don't know, pretty lame since Doom and the Black Arms are not really that great of villains?
How would I change Mephiles's backstory and plot holes? Although Iblis and Mephiles combine into Solaris, the light and the time destroying monster, their origin will be a little different. So this is gonna be a long comment. Let me know what you think about my idea.
Origin: The government of Soleanna along with the assistance of GUN, they try to create 2 different types of weapons. One to travel through time reality and memories, and the other on the elements of Earth. Operation codenames, LIGHT (Iblis) and DARK (Mephiles), if you got a better operation name let me know. The operation goes wrong when GUN and Elise's father try fusing Mephiles and Iblis and goes haywire like many fictional bio weapon projects, as Rouge in 06 said a prototype generator failed (which was something we didn't see). Both Iblis and Mephiles try to get away but both were stopped when Mephiles was sealed in the Scepter of Darkness and Iblis with (I'm going to make this one up) a magical Crystal Ball of Light. With both of them sealed away, the people of Soleanna takes the crystal ball and scepter back to their laboratory in Kingdom Valley and Aquatic Base and unfortunate news of Elise's father's death from the outbreak of the project is sent to Elise herself. Over a decade later, Dr. Eggman would later come to the land of Soleanna to find a potential new base after his last defeat and somehow notices a hidden lab in the ruins of Kingdom Valley. However, he didn't expect that the place was filled with other scientist and holds them hostage and gets them to reveal what he wants to know like why they're doing all the way out in the ruins and Iblis and Mephiles after hacking into the database recorded by Soleanna's scientists and GUN. Desperate to know, he seeks out Elise as she knows the answer to freeing Iblis's seal along the 7 Chaos Emeralds to make a time machine of some sort. As for Meplihes's seal, it be easy since Mephiles is just a pile of goo and dark mist.
Characteristics: One part of Mephilies I wanna cover is when he summons a future Shadow in a container, as I don't know how he manage to summon that thing without time traveling. So in this case I'm going to add that he has the power of reality, like how Thanos used in Infinity War when talking to Strange and tricking the Guardians to getting Gamora. He would use it to show Shadow what became of him instead of just seeing himself locked up in a container and for Silver to motivate him as a reminder of what to fight for. Another thing to make things interesting, Mephiles would be all knowing considering he would know people's thoughts, feelings, hopes and desires just to mess with them sort of like Slade when he was playing mind games with Robin in the first season of the original Teen Titans. Since Mephiles is literally the mind of Solaris and time itself to a degree with the ability to time travel, he would know what to do when manipulating people into his master plan without them knowing. The reason for wanting destruction in the game is a little to farfetched, but in my take it were to be say destroy the way history of humanity was made because to Mephiles he feels they tried to destroy him when fusing him with Iblis for the first time, being very painful since both of them were not ready to join together, not at their prime with their powers, and were too distant from each other's light and dark. Over time, Mephiles would be able to handle the elements of Iblis, and Iblis would handle the mind time and reality when joining together. For killing Sonic, instead of making Elise cry to break the Iblis's seal, I'd say just to get Sonic out of the picture so he doesn't interfere with his master plan due to how crazy fast and strong Sonic is. One more thing to add to the mix is a new item for Iblis and Mephiles to join together when fusing, that would be the stones of Light and Dark, that way there isn't too much light and darkness and can maintain balance. Now the stones would be very important as both stones are separated in 2 different places. One place where it's dark, abandoned and lifeless while the other is light, surrounded around people of life.
Well he does look like a rejected concept art of Shadow
“I wouldn’t change a thing. Our mistakes make us who we are and I’m perfectly comfortable with who I am.”
- Shadow The Hedgehog, Sonic Twitter Takeover 2019
Here's what Sega should do: Update the graphics, get rid of bugs and glitches, and resale the game as Sonic 2020. Then, we'll have the greatest Sonic Game ever, and we'll have our perfect God of Darkness back in a Sonic game!!!
@THE DRAGON KNIGHT SLAYER64 dude, how do you know?
@@artistanthony1007 .... Why not for XBOX 1 or PS4?
@THE DRAGON KNIGHT SLAYER64 Then why can't we just ask Sega and show them that we would play it if they only listen to us?
@THE DRAGON KNIGHT SLAYER64 um, I'm *Both*, so would that make a difference?
It would be nice... If SEGA came back to finish fully 06, add deleted stuff and fix "bugs".
06 is good game but if it was finished it would be amazing.
Mephiles is a great antagonist why isn’t in other games #MephilesReturn
He is possibly, the time eater could be made of his remains, and possibly the phantom ruby. But hey, it's just a theory, a game theory!
Cing KrayZ your not wrong
@@Boxingman123_ thnx for the reply!
Cing KrayZ #MephilesReturn in the comments
Boxing man 123 they better not ruin him though
Okay That settles it,
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Great explanation and symbolism! Mephiles is so cool; I want to see him back but it better be done well.
This was an exelent character analysis video! Even after Mephiles month is over, I am still very eager to see what content you create in the future!
This was a great character analysis, good job! I wish Mephiles could return to the series, he is honestly the best sonic villan and his relationship with Shadow is really interesting but unfortunately I don't believe it will never happen :'(
He is the Doctor Finitevus of Sonic games. Both are fricking creepy and dark, both want to use one of the main characters in their evil plan (Finitevus used Knuckles while Mephiles was trying to use Shadow) and both are responsible for realesing incredibly powerful Gods, Mephiles along with Iblis created Solaris and Finitevus Hexed the Master Emerald so Enerjak's Spirit could Posses Knuckles.
Mephiles the Dark is really awesome and important character in the Sonic universe and I think he should come back and stay as a weird body form as Shadow after Team Dark fight over Mephiles's clones army too and stay as Shadow's enemie or his own rival too. Thank you for the video. #LordDanny #MephilesMonth
I have to say, this video is amazing, and I think you're right, and Mephiles should return some how and haunt Shadow through his adventures. You should team up with Galrious64 as he is working on a rewrite of Sonic 06, and I think it would be fun to see a colab.
Thanks, I'm glad you liked my coment! 😁
I like how you narrate your videos; you do not have the stereotypical cockney accent as American-media portrays. Keep up the good work! The British accent reminds me of watching BBC. I also liked how you critiqed the character of mephilies.
My accent definitely isn't cockney, lol. Cockney is a London (Southern) accent. I'm Northern English :P
@@lorddanny2988 thank you very much, I've learned something new!
Sens legit. I think Shadow knew what Mephiles really wanted to do
This isn't how I remember it... I remember Shadow and Mephiles being gay lovers until Sonic ruins everything and Omega shoots Mephiles, breaking up their relationship due to Shadow bringing his friends. Then they go into a Game Developer War and then Mephiles uses the Power of the Piss and Weed Gems to battle Shadow.
Don't forget Mephiles' character development. He went from loving Fortnite to wanting to create a game which surpassed Fortnite.
@@lorddanny2988 Yeah. Man the characters of Sonic 06 are so deep, like how Shadow freed Mephiles at Tilted Towers by which is the reason for his Fortnite addiction, but as Mephiles and Shadow's relationship split off, Mephiles gets over Fortnite showing that he has truly moved on from Shadow.
This confuses me.
@@waringaw.m6350 Welcome to the plot of the Sonic Realtime Fandubs. Where everything is done in one take and somehow comes out amazingly.
Nice avatar Lord Danny! It looks like ultra instinct metal sonic or hyper metal Sonic! It looks so epic!
Great video! Yea, we need Mephiles back though I'm iffy on it due to Shadow's new voice actor not having the same A+ level the other voice actor had for his character.
Sonic 06 was the last plot Sonic game
Now shadow knows how sonic felt in adventure 2
You know a sonic fan loves a character when they make a whole month for them
I feel like represents Maria is a good side of Shadow while Mephiles is an evil side of him
Now that we have Infinite and Mephiles in the Sonic Universe, it's time SEGA, no excuses, get going on that Sonic: Return of Infinite And Mephiles already, we have been waiting for way too long!!
I know it's impossible but if Sega make shadow the hedgehog 2 I want the villain be mephiles
I'm just afraid that any reappearance of Mephiles would require a retcon, and also just be really poorly written. I'm fine with Mephiles being a one-off villain, since he has a complete story here that ends in a somewhat satisfying way without compromising his character. I don't want him to get the Shadow treatment, which is something that I feel will inevitably happen if he shadows Shadow throughout multiple games.
Mephiles is basically what shadow was to sonic in sa2. A polar opposite.
Shadow beats infinite and mephiles. Then they come back and take it out on sonic lol I gotta agree with this video tho
Memphis Tennessee
The alpha gamer himself
Me: hears Mephileses theme
Also me: gets ready to call the ghostbusters
Beta's thema In twd is way worse
Great video as always, Danny
Meph and Infinite would be TERRIFIC and TERRIFYING together!
Something I couldn't help but notice while listening to the main themes of the trio is that only two of them have a reference to Mephiles in the lyrics. His World, Sonic's theme has "Intergalactic continental champ running things, hyperactive instrumental and pulling strings" referencing Mephiles' plans to sacrifice the world's future by playing puppet master from the background, while Dreams Of An Absolution has "All the preachers, all with their lies", talking about Mephiles essentially being a psuedo Satan and feeding Silver and Blaze misinformation in order to kill Sonic. Meanwhile, Shadow's theme is mostly about him and how he intends to define his own path after being used by people with ulterior motives repeatedly. It just goes to show that Shadow has seemingly already conquered his inner demons.
YES!!!
The timeline began to crumble, and the infinite black void was closing in on him. Realizing he was doomed, he summoned all his power to do everything to keep himself alive in some way. He split in two once again, the fiery blaze fizzling out, and the shadow shattering like a broken mirror. His body, mind, and soul spreading across the different timelines. The largest shard flying to a timeline similar to the one it originated from. Now he lives in the darkness, taking his shattered pieces, and trying to become one entity again...
Why Mephiles is Shadow's Best Foe
Simple: He messed with Shadow's mind like no one before
Black doom wants to rule not to destroy.
Awesome
Thank you 😊
*Hahahaha! Mephiles Time~*
This hurts, mephiles has so much untapped potential
As amateurish as I am when it comes to Shadow since Amy is my girl, I think Eclipse from the Archie comics is Shadow's best foe or a close contender. Especially since he actually had a side that cared for other people besides himself.
8.85K subs? You need more
Ah yes, top 10 rivalries
So can you do a fleetway or dark Sonic vid it's up to you really great vid by the way
who else got shadow as his favorite character in everey thing
I think Solaris Is Sonic’s Greatest Foe
Even if sonic 06 was a bad game mephelis the dark is a nice and unique villain that has a goal and his plans or very nice unlike egg man to me egg man is a simple villain but mephelis is in a way cunning like ganondorf from zelda in a way and I wish he can return to be a nice enemy but unfortunately that game technically didn't happened because after Elise blew out the solaris flame the event of sonic 06 was just erased so crisis city didn't happened the solaris fight didn't happened not even solaris even existed so the king technically lived so yeah...
I really want sonic to fight mephiles
So will there be a Eggman month?
Sorry to all those who saw my previous comment on mephiles or any of my previous comments at all anywhere ever. I am sorry for all of them.
Mephiles being like shadow in sa1 is a interesting comparison.
Shadow actually first debuted in Sonic Adventure 2, but you do have a point
I have a theory what if mephilis is in shadows mind because after sonic 06 shadow went through a downfall were people started calling him edgy because mephilis is trying to corrupt him then break shadows heart then kill and Maria as his angel and mephilis as a demon because in generations shadow wanted to defeat sonic then Maria told shadow to stop shadow listened and cheered sonic on in the final boss mephilis is waiting for the right time to strike and get his revenge people might say that he was erased the time eater is mephilis when the time eater was killed mephilis escaped and went back into shadows mind who knows maybe a shadow the hedgehog 2 yeah that’s not going to happen sadly
If we've established that mephiles = shadow's inner demon he definitely should return but as exactly that, an inner demon. One that should he lose out to mean that he basically becomes mephiles until his friends mostly likely rouge bring him back.
meme note: mephiles is the actual edgy the hedgy ROFL
But isn't Shadow an evil double of Sonic, I mean take a look at theme of SA2
Who do you think are the best fighters in the Archie Universe?
we do not defeat or Drown or demons, we learn to rise above them. in many cases and froms Shadow and Mephiles are alike.
and I'm kinda suprised that nobody talks about The BlackArm genocide Shadow commited
I don't know how does he turn into a shadow lookalike
Shadow versus Mephiles is way better than Sonic versus Eggman! ( No offense Sonic and Eggman ). They are so COMPLEX, SIMPLE, AND DEEP!!!
Shadow should accept his shadow aka Mephiles....wait this is just Persona 4 😜
Nah Mephiles should appear in an actual body that is his true form. They should make him come from a demon or devil or at least an antigod or fallen angel.
please come back
Shadow and Mephiles look almost the same. Mephiles is just a different colour pallet
"B-b-but segnoc 06 suckz nothing good can come from it!"
Tell that to Mephiles' face
I was mocking people that say that
@@CozMac397 oh...sorry
Hey so look I like shadow and mephiles' dynamic because it furthers shadow's character development but mephiles isn't really that great of a character and I can tell you guys why one his design is a recolor which is unfortunate cause there was probably alot of different things they could've done with it and beyond the whole being shadow's shadow thing there isn't really a good reason for his design two his plan is convoluted he's constantly shooting himself in the foot and besides shadow everybody is being dumbed down to make mephiles look like a cunning puppeteer instead of him actually being a cunning puppeteer mephiles is a good villian concept but his execution isn't and he's kinda overhyped
You inteo is so creepy
Sonic the Hedgehog (himself) gets more enemies than anyone else.
Shadow gets less enemies including:
1.) Biolizard (from Sonic Adventure 2)
2.) Black Doom and the Black Arms (from Shadow the Hedgehog the video game)
3.) Mephiles the Dark (from Sonic 06)
4.) Infinite (from Sonic Forces)
5.) That's all. (Hint: Shadow needs more than that, but Sega wouldn't do it)
I'm ready to get stated with mephiles moth.