Why Education in Finland Works

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  • Опубліковано 28 вер 2024

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  • @ponhaus
    @ponhaus 10 років тому +318

    to have been born in Finland is to have won the lottery of the world.

    • @ponhaus
      @ponhaus 9 років тому +19

      *****
      the grass is ALWAYS greener on the other side :)

    • @pkaydennis
      @pkaydennis 9 років тому

      ponhaus lol

    • @TuucciZ
      @TuucciZ 9 років тому +19

      ***** Those Finns moved to Sweden during and in the decades after the Second World War. At the time, Finland's position as a Western and democratic neighbor of the Soviet Union scared many Finns and the country's massive change in economic structure from agriculture to industry and technology left many out of work. Sweden on the other hand was in need of workers. In the recent years, however, the amount of people moving from Finland to Sweden has become roughly equal to the amount moving in the opposite direction.
      Finland has a large and healthy population of Finnish Swedes who seem to be quite happy living in Finland, so the argument goes both ways!

    • @iDartmoors
      @iDartmoors 9 років тому +28

      I'm English. I wish that I was born in Iceland or Finland.

    • @Lancelot2000Lps
      @Lancelot2000Lps 6 років тому +2

      +Marianne that can you do in other languages too and most people in europa learn english, it is only that we live in a world where you have 2. system that work 1. that finnlands where kids are happy and can be kids, 2. second that asian system like in china or korea or japan where kids get work dead and yes that really happen in jajan and china they have high fences on their schools because many kids sucuide because it is too much for them!!! And most other countrys are not so crazy but it could happen fast because we are living in a combative world and that makes people ill and kids too but we let slight like idiots!!!
      Mfg. Lancelot

  • @kakkashin
    @kakkashin 11 років тому +98

    I live in Finland and I promise you this country is a great place to live in. Many of us take it for granted though. I consider myself very lucky to have born here.

  • @tamppi777
    @tamppi777 8 років тому +83

    We treat teachers like humans. They're almost like an aunt or uncle to us, authority but friendly

  • @mlmj1994
    @mlmj1994 7 років тому +30

    Teachers in America have so much passion and love. We want all of our students to have a chance. The system just isn't built that way. We get burnt out so fast. The people who make the standardized tests in the U.S. do not know our students.

    • @Afamilydaycare
      @Afamilydaycare 6 років тому +2

      Marissa I have a ton of respect for teachers. It pains me to see how undervalued they are in the USA. We need to pay our teachers better, we need to be a great partner to our teachers as parents, and we need to let them have more input and freedom in education. Basically what we do now is tell them to go to school, get them in debt, pay them nothing and tell them they don’t really know better. Our education system is a disaster.

    • @eloycruz1148
      @eloycruz1148 5 років тому +2

      I’m from California and all my teachers were in it for the money. Never learned a thing and they always complained about making 120k plus a year.

    • @prosperitystar
      @prosperitystar 2 роки тому

      In kazakhstan education suck too. The system is almost unchanged since collapse of some certain “communist” state. Teachers just teach how to pass UNT(united national test) and to pass National exams. And they also agree that the real school is not the place but the DESIRE TO LEARN-STUDY. But despite everyone hating educ-sys no one’s going to protest or ask the government for any changes. But even if tests in schools wouldn’t be necessary to graduate the school, and the lessons would be so free, the government couldn’t afford the price of the education quality(the money also could’ve consumed in governmental corruption)

  • @onkarvigy
    @onkarvigy 4 роки тому +7

    You can really sense the calmness and contentment in the air from the vibes of kids in the classroom!!!! No wonder they are among the happiest countries too!!!

  • @deim0s243
    @deim0s243 10 років тому +85

    I'm really happy that this system exists, because since it's the one with better results, it's just a matter of time for other countries to adopt it.
    Here in South America we really need to work on the educational system. In Chile, where i live in, speaking of treating teachers as professionals is unheard of, they have little authority, and that causes on them a lack of motivation to teach.
    In my opinion, education is the topic that should be first improved, because it's the engine that makes progress happen in every country.

  • @nicolenicole6325
    @nicolenicole6325 8 років тому +80

    I won a Study Journey in the north Europe and I was very confused If I should have chose Denmarl or Finland...Then I heard about Finland School System...I think I made my answer..Finland all the way

    • @Mkoivuka
      @Mkoivuka 8 років тому +3

      +Niky Neko ツ When are you coming?

    • @horsesrmylife78
      @horsesrmylife78 8 років тому +6

      I went there for a summer as an exchange student two years ago! It's sooooo fun being in Finland! I didn't go to school, but if you have any questions about Finland, I'm happy to help :) Have a fantastic time!

    • @magyatarmagiamus2104
      @magyatarmagiamus2104 8 років тому

      TSU

    • @raghad4356
      @raghad4356 8 років тому +1

      +horsesrmylife78 how to apply for studying in Finland what do they care for do they car for high scores and these stuff ?? please help me thanks

    • @Hollipolli
      @Hollipolli 8 років тому

      Periliguitsy Thats what i thought

  • @akoanani
    @akoanani 10 років тому +15

    Small class sizes are really good at teaching students

  • @jakethesnake95
    @jakethesnake95 10 років тому +113

    We Americans could learn something from the Finns.

    • @paganpoet3
      @paganpoet3 5 років тому +10

      Americans can't learn...They are the best in the world.Thats the only thing they know.

    • @MKarhu05
      @MKarhu05 4 роки тому +2

      @@paganpoet3 That's certainly the stereotype. And when they picked Trump&Pence they lost a truckload of credibility, around the world. But, if they now throw them out, in a harsh manner - with Trump and his crime syndicate ending up in prison - they will have a chance to restart; including international friendships that Trump has worked so hard to insult and destroy. Hope Americans refind the beacon of light that used to explain how they have been credited with half of Nobel Prices.

    • @VelhaGuardaTricolor
      @VelhaGuardaTricolor 3 роки тому +1

      Besides, America is about making money so the school system is private and wants your money.
      The whole of American Society is based on competition not cooperation so it will never change.

    • @Fl4ngerr
      @Fl4ngerr Місяць тому

      We Finns could learn something from the developed Asian nations.

  • @kaushaltimilsina7727
    @kaushaltimilsina7727 6 років тому +5

    Wow! I've been an admirer of education in Finland. It is awesome how the learning values and empowers creativity, innovation, curiosity and collaboration. Really the education that is essential for enrichment of learning and progress of the society.

  • @inesdecastro91
    @inesdecastro91 10 років тому +45

    We all have a lot to learn from the finnish school system.

    • @charlesponzi9608
      @charlesponzi9608 4 роки тому +1

      Yes, but why after all these years we are making no progress!!!

    • @skoch9995
      @skoch9995 2 роки тому +1

      @@charlesponzi9608 Because you elected *Dumb Stump Donald Trump* as your president and a few other dummies before him. That’s why !!!

    • @Fl4ngerr
      @Fl4ngerr Місяць тому

      as a Finn I can say, it's not so good as it seems.

  • @esmeraldagreen1992
    @esmeraldagreen1992 5 років тому +2

    It is not their schooling system that is better, it is their Society that is better, based on courtesy civility and discourse, those values are thought at home and reinforced at school, this is why the kids behave and learn

  • @nmwombe
    @nmwombe 9 років тому +12

    The classroom environment is so different from Kenyan schools. Their classrooms are pro-cooperative, collaborative and visually stimulating. Kenyan learners sit for 8 years in primary school listening to the teaching, looking at the blackboard and two or three posters on the wall.

    • @fabriciomenezes775
      @fabriciomenezes775 9 років тому

      nmwombe kinda like in Brazil.

    • @tyttiMK
      @tyttiMK 8 років тому +1

      +nmwombe That sounds like what my school was like in Finland. It didn't really hinder learning.

    • @tharun960
      @tharun960 7 років тому

      Unfortunately many countries are a few years or decades behind in many things from education to health, human rights and so on. Helps if you have a lot of money like Finland I guess.

    • @rahul17023
      @rahul17023 6 років тому

      nmwombe still stuck in 80s?

  • @JaeShen
    @JaeShen 11 років тому +1

    Quality of teaching in Finland is absolutely first class. Teachers are highly appreciated for their works skills, knowledge and their qualifications.

    • @Fl4ngerr
      @Fl4ngerr Місяць тому

      Depends a lot on the level of your degree.

  • @tijayzacky8025
    @tijayzacky8025 11 років тому +2

    Wow nicely said all....For a start i am not a white or a Finnish guy.I am an African...if i was to grade Finland when it comes to education I would put them among the top 5 in the world because i school in Finland and i can tell you their educational system is damn great...And Language was never a problem for me because they treat every one equally..no matter your color or nationality....

  • @chtjagadesh8078
    @chtjagadesh8078 9 років тому +17

    Now this totally proves why we hate going to college,because it's so bad in every way .
    Im from India ,my school visakha valley ,Visakhapatnam is the best place I lived in ,now this longterm after intermediate is the worst place to even go for a day .
    I felt like watching my school in this video .
    Ur education system rocks btw

  • @sunilkumargupta2328
    @sunilkumargupta2328 5 років тому +1

    The value and self worth are the most important things in this profession and indeed Finland is doing great in this sector.
    I wish, it becomes universal.

  • @heacock
    @heacock 10 років тому +20

    The Finland education system looks pretty wonderful watching the video but at the same time those ranking systems should not be used as a precursor for what we should necessarily be doing. In 2009 South Korea ranked no.1 in reading and math and no.3 in science yet I would never use their education system as the method for achievement - and I like the country. South Korea has some of the highest suicide rates in the world. Stress is a major problem in their nation. Their style of teaching is rote memorization (one of the reasons that Korean airliner bumped into the San Francisco runway). Seoul is as close to pure capitalism as I have seen; driven by money with few worker rights. Their idea of achievement is to attend a prestigious university and generally enter stereotypical professions (i.e. doctor, lawyer, scientist). South Korea places no emphasis on the trades. IMO grades in school are no determination of success or failure. Success is a product of who the person is. By the time we reach high school we should already know enough reading, math and sciences to function in the world. High school should be a place where industry and education work hand in hand to help each student start down the path to achieving their goals. It should be like an internship program or mentorship program between industry and education. For students who don't know what their goals (dreams) are it should be helping them work in their areas of interest so they can make a goal. High school should not end at age 18 but should end based on the needs of the student. It doesn't help society to send an unprepared and under educated student into the work force. University should not be the emphasis of high school, it should be emphasised that it is a tool for those who need it. PISA should not be used as a standard for what other nations should be doing. It is a poor example IMO. Teachers need to open classrooms to open discussion and a style of teaching that encourages thinking outside the box. We need creative thinkers not robots who learned via rote memorization and facts. For example history should be debated and discussed not stated in terms of facts (i.e. most American history taught in the schools is bullshit).

    • @makaiserable
      @makaiserable 10 років тому +2

      ***** maybe-it-broke.-my-spacebar-broke.--:(

    • @anomaliterbawamati6373
      @anomaliterbawamati6373 7 років тому

      heacock I'm totally agree with all your elaborations! ☺️👍🏻

    • @oiseau_libre
      @oiseau_libre 6 років тому

      E.X.A.C.T.L.Y.!!!!!!

  • @bleucheese14
    @bleucheese14 11 років тому +1

    Great stuff from Finland. Congratulations from Korea.

  • @crookedpaths6612
    @crookedpaths6612 4 роки тому +4

    In Finland it seems they use scientific research to inform their teaching methodology and school system. They recruit the best teachers and pay them accordingly. They leave the teachers to get on with their jobs
    Everywhere else they use political ideology to inform their systems They value their teachers by how cheap they get them. Politicians and anyone else with an agenda constantly interfere with the teaching.

  • @lucie2lucie
    @lucie2lucie 12 років тому +1

    As a student, I felt that the educational system in the U.S.A concentrated too much on math, science, and reading/writing and little concern on artistic work or hand on training. As a student, I learned to memorize notes and key answers for exam or quiz. I realized that much of what I've learned in class will never be used in the real world. I have to self teach myself and other student on subject that I didn't quite understand. It's almost like the blinds are leading the blind.

  • @RateZ1618
    @RateZ1618 11 років тому +5

    Go Finland!

  • @demon-rp4bc
    @demon-rp4bc 13 років тому +1

    Many of these schools that were shown in this bit were swedish schools in finland. Finland as many might not know has two official languages that are : Finnish and Swedish, thats why there are a "group" of people who are called the swedish talking finns.

  • @ofnair
    @ofnair 12 років тому +1

    In some areas of Helsingfors(Helsinki) there are quite a lot of immigrants from Somalia etc. Even those schools seems to be working just fine.

    • @Fl4ngerr
      @Fl4ngerr Місяць тому

      Finland doesn't have a big problem with immigrants, if you look at the official statistics, it's not high...

  • @hitbystyle666
    @hitbystyle666 4 роки тому +1

    Finland and Singapore have the best educational systems.

  • @kenrotheram
    @kenrotheram 6 років тому +6

    Can we learn from Finland ?
    Finland performs much better than England and the USA in the PISA test. In this international test the students have to apply their knowledge in novel situations. It seems that their average pupils achieve comparatively higher scores than those in other countries. Does this reflect Government directives, the headteacher, the teachers, teaching methods, continual assessment, revision methods or parental involvement?
    At the Government level ...
    The Government in Finland introduced a law so that all children have a 15 minute break after 45 minutes of teaching. This prevents cognitive overload for pupils and teachers. It also provides time for the teacher to speak to misbehaving pupils and achieve good discipline.
    The Government decided on mixed ability classes. (Mixed ability has recently been shown in UCL randomised trials to be more effective than streaming or setting). In Finland bright pupils are paired with less able pupils and each has to describe what has been learned in the lesson. This is peer to peer assessment and pupils soon realise what they have and have not learned.
    The Government sets out a curriculum that is short with only a few pages of text per subject. The curriculum is not overwhelming, leaving time in the year for teachers to plan local activities and innovate.
    The Government approves science and mathematics textbooks that have been tried and tested in schools. Textbooks have teacher guides and these provide lesson plans for teachers for every term. They also contain extension material, printouts and projects. Textbooks are supplemented with free internet material.
    The Government directs examination boards to set questions that assess the understanding of concepts and their application in novel situations rather than just factual recall. The application of knowledge (problem solving) is a higher order of skill in Blooms Taxonomy of Learning. There is a minimum reliance on multiple choice questions as these are viewed as only useful for testing factual recall.
    The Government believes that SATs testing is unnecessary as continual assessment provides sufficient data about pupil attainment.
    The Government is now reviewing the curriculum to periodically introduce topics that require strategies which are needed in modern industry, such as working together and creativity.
    At the Headteacher level...
    The school day is organised with one hour periods and each period includes a lesson of 45 minutes and a 15 minute break. There are also morning and afternoon 15 minute coffee breaks and a lunch hour.
    The Head meets each teacher in an interview every term to discuss class progress, any problems with individual pupils, innovations, new topics etc.
    There are no heads of department and one teacher is given responsibility for ordering equipment, materials etc.
    The Head is responsible for standards and these are checked yearly by the government who give an examination to a few pupils in a year group. School inspectors can visit if results are unsatisfactory.
    Poorly performing pupils or gifted pupils are interviewed with their parents, the class teacher, a school psychologist and a social worker present.
    The Head provides an academic route or a vocational route for pupils aged 16.
    The Head insists that good discipline is introduced quickly in the school and is effective at an early age. Head teachers believe that learning cannot occur if minor disruption occurs in lessons.
    At the teacher level...
    Teachers enjoy their jobs and few leave teaching.
    Some teachers are only qualified to teach pupils between the ages of 7 to 13. They teach all subjects in a mixed ability class with less than 20 pupils. They keep the same class from year to year and soon know the pupils that need extra support.
    Other teachers are subject specialists and teach pupils aged 13+
    Teachers on exchange visits comment that lessons are not drastically different to those in their countries and comment that Finnish teachers are not ‘super teachers’.
    A common lesson format is a period of teacher talk followed by the pupil reading the textbook and answering some factual recall and problem solving questions. A short test is then used to monitor learning in the lesson. In summary, passive learning is followed by active learning and a short test gives immediate feedback. Teacher talk probably accounts for 15 minutes in the lesson.
    Teachers are trained to monitor learning effectively with short tests in every lesson and termly tests. The results for the latter are used for grades (these are entered into a national database). This is continual assessment.
    Teachers keep a portfolio of children’s work and comment on this frequently. New targets are set after a discussion with the pupil.
    Teachers set a short homework every week and pupils mark their own homework in class as the teacher goes through the marking scheme. Pupils have to comment on their results and results are entered into the national database. If no homework is done this is also recorded.
    Teachers use textbooks and the lesson plans in the teacher guides. They feel there is no need to ‘reinvent the wheel’.
    Teachers are expected to design a new topic for lessons at the end of the year and show their creativity to the Headteacher.
    Teachers have 2 hours of professional development per week to discuss lessons, learning and new ideas.
    At the pupil level...
    Pupils enter the classroom and take off their shoes.
    Pupils listen, read their textbook and answer questions, write summaries and are tested in every lesson.
    Pupils keep a portfolio of work and are self critical about their own work using a proforma.
    Pupils say they appreciate the regular 15 minute breaks every hour.
    Pupils work well and quietly in class for 45 minutes.
    Pupils conduct peer to peer tests as a revision process. A bright pupil is paired with a less able pupil. Each pupil has to explain a concept to the other pupil and they persist until mastery is achieved.
    Older pupils do projects over a three week period using school computers. Some homework involves using the internet for research. As the project progresses other pupils can comment on it. Pupils are required to give presentations to describe their completed projects to other class members who ask questions and offer constructive criticism.
    Parents...
    Parents receive a form at the end of term which provides the grade for the end of term tests. They have to sign this and return it to the school.
    Parents attend parents’ evenings.
    Parents are satisfied that homework is brief (sometimes only 30 minutes per week) and are pleased that their children have time to have hobbies and interests.
    Some parents do not like the idea of peer to peer revision as it seems that the bright pupil is being used as a teacher. They want their bright pupils to do extra studies. Schools believe that this method benefits both abilities.
    Parents can see test results on a national database.
    Parents can be contacted by teachers using mobile phone messages if progress is slow or behaviour is poor.
    Parents buy school workbooks and textbooks for upper secondary pupils. These are used daily in class and parents can see that their children are getting a broad, balanced and relevant curriculum.
    Parents pay for examination entries.
    Parents do not make sandwiches for their children. Pupils receive a free meal at school and they are not allowed off site to buy junk food.
    Parents pay for extra curricular activities after school. Music is very popular.
    Comment...
    It would seem that there are many similarities and differences between Finnish education and that of other countries. There is certainly no one silver bullet for success. Finnish success has been achieved by implementing a complex well organised system. The major factors are:-
    1. At the classroom level the most obvious factor is the typical lesson plan which is composed of a short teacher talk phase (15 mins), an active learning phase using textbook questions to enhance learning and a short test phase to provide feedback to the learner and the teacher.
    2. The use of continuous assessment is another important factor in that Finnish pupils are regularly made accountable for their own learning through lesson tests, termly tests, portfolios and self assessment proformas.
    3. Finnish examination questions have a standard format. Copious text is initially provided before questions and this must be carefully read and analysed by pupils. Questions then require the pupil to apply the concepts they know to the novel context. Teachers incorporate this type of question into their lessons as examination preparation and problem solving becomes a regular learning activity for pupils. Such questions are similar to PISA questions.
    The three factors above could easily be implemented in any country that is considering curriculum change. I believe that they are fundamental to the success of Finland in PISA.
    Further reading...
    ‘Cleverlands’ by Lucy Crehan on Kindle.
    Lucy Crehan was a science teacher who taught in several countries to understand their success. She wrote a book called ‘Cleverlands’ and there is a long chapter on the Finnish educational system.

  • @supermonk3y07
    @supermonk3y07 12 років тому

    Finland has one of the world's best educational systems. Sometimes even topping other countries that have a COMPLETELY different educational system like South Korea and Singapore. From what I've seen in this and other videos, I like this, especially since it seems like a very relaxed and happy atmosphere, and they really encourage creativity...unlike most Asian schools or even most other schools for that matter

  • @bioluminesenssi
    @bioluminesenssi 11 років тому +1

    You certainly sound like someone who's been to Finland. Congratulations, you cracked the code, you know everything about the country.

  • @Bigben2u
    @Bigben2u 8 років тому +2

    I like how did American representative put the teacher and administrator relation before the students. did anybody notice that?

  • @josephinesosingot-raisanen6743
    @josephinesosingot-raisanen6743 3 роки тому

    I am Finnish and spent sometime in America where my kids went to preschool and 2nd grade...I remember having a right panic attack everyday I went to pick my kids up at 15.00 I knew I had a tough job ahead of me...over 2 hours a day per kid so I spent my whole evening doing homework...Lucky I was able to afford it. I hired privately one of the teachers to spend hours and do homework and private tuition with my kids. We finally came back to Finland and I never saw homework...only once in a while kids finish their homework before they come home

  • @FinnishPagan
    @FinnishPagan 12 років тому

    I think the results from the PISA survey talks for itself. What country are you from?

  • @Virtawiiru
    @Virtawiiru 12 років тому

    actually in my opinion it's so damn good we don't have private schools and education. that's the reason. EVERYONE has a chance to get education, get work etc. even if you are poor or a rich.

  • @driddy1
    @driddy1 7 років тому

    AMAZING! Thanks for posting ☺️

  • @remsorian3
    @remsorian3 3 роки тому

    you had to understand that education is very important I know every criticism from all sides but you have to understand that education Education and education is very very important for a society You have to understand this

  • @FinnishKT
    @FinnishKT 12 років тому

    And the person who "suggested" this, was not even really a politician. She was just a employee of one politician in True Finns party.

  • @Hollipolli
    @Hollipolli 8 років тому +6

    Miten jouduin tänne?

  • @somberlight
    @somberlight 12 років тому

    oh you can implement it just fine, there are just few things you need to do and get rid of first, and none of them are easy to pull off. step 1) first principle of learning is not a competition, it's teamwork. plan everything on that.

  • @bleucheese14
    @bleucheese14 11 років тому +5

    Absolutely stupid comment and untrue. I taught in Korea. A lot of stereotypes about Korean education are true, but look beyond the surface. The students there are having a hella lot of fun. It's an acquired taste. Not for everybody, but Koreans never try to export their culture, especially system of education.

  • @mistrex
    @mistrex 7 років тому

    Im from Finland and those who want to move here come its very nice in here lot's of nature fresh air not so hot summers kinda cold winters and ofc some english shows like How i met your mother,Umbelievable Dr.Pol and many others

  • @macrick
    @macrick 12 років тому

    I agree with U wholeheartly , been in Pori for 10 days

  • @Jefff72
    @Jefff72 11 років тому

    If we had a system for recruiting & educating future teacher like we do with military officers, we could be No 1 in the world. If you want to be an officer in the military, we have military academies & ROTC programs that will put you through college.You just have to give back a specific amount of time to the military in return. We then also have programs that will send officers through Master programs. We would dominate if we put as much effort into creating teachers as we do military officers.

  • @Weerzer
    @Weerzer 12 років тому

    I go to this school. It's a normal public school, therefore the teaching is virtually identical to any other public school in the country. It was quite recently built (just over a decade old) so it does look a bit better than your average Finnish school.

  • @SchottenbauerVideos
    @SchottenbauerVideos 11 років тому

    As an educational publisher, I find this video to be quite interesting.

  • @andjack
    @andjack 11 років тому

    Ok, what about a Dr and Professor?
    Dr Pasi Sahlberg, Director General of the Organisation for International Mobility and Cooperation (in the Ministry of Education) in Helsinki.
    There are many videos where he explains the differences in Finlands and UK/US educations and why the UK/US are a failure.
    In Finland they pay less for each student than in US, but get way better results. The results in US could be that good too, it they would drop the belif competition is what is needed in every area.

  • @TheFORBEZZZ
    @TheFORBEZZZ 12 років тому

    @Robert420L
    Do you have to pay significant taxes for the educational system?

  • @Seetiyan
    @Seetiyan 12 років тому

    ". . . real relationships and real respect between administrators and teachers."
    Whoa! There's something you don't hear about in the states.
    (I'm a sometimes-teacher and friend of other teachers)

  • @ashoknayaki7776
    @ashoknayaki7776 Рік тому

    Please send audio app

  • @MRiitta
    @MRiitta 11 років тому

    Not to mention the adult education.. which is free,too. I studied in the free of charge evening classes and have had a beautiful own business after that (20 years).. so what do we do wrong??

  • @mikrokupu
    @mikrokupu 12 років тому

    It's hard to generalize I think. You can say we Finns know more about US than about France for an example, like most of (Northern) Europe Finland is very much influenced by American culture: tv, films, music. But I've noticed it's typical Finns don't realize how diverse nation US is. Personally it's great to visit US, the country has so much to offer but I rather live in a small, safe Nanny State called Finland :)

  • @ElephantHouseguest
    @ElephantHouseguest 11 років тому +1

    By helping bad teachers, what do you mean? Because here in the US, a bad teacher is probably something completely different. Typically, its someone who abuses tenure. Someone who has worked for x amount of years, and is now nearly impossible to fire without causing problems with the AFT. These teachers typically come in and check ebay and facebook all day while assigning bookwork, and getting a stuffy salary.
    Thats what I was talking about...

  • @xintos
    @xintos 12 років тому

    Great piece, AFT!

  • @cokiaustin2211
    @cokiaustin2211 8 років тому +2

    the grass is always greener

    • @jumpinthefire23
      @jumpinthefire23 8 років тому +2

      +Coki Austin Except this isn't just something in your head. No, the grass is ACTUALLY greener.

    • @lukasbaker3185
      @lukasbaker3185 8 років тому +5

      The grass is always greener on the better treated lawn, should be the phrase in this situation.

  • @somberlight
    @somberlight 13 років тому

    @Khaenz don't confuse the British system with the American system. the "better" schools in UK are actually quite brutal, curriculum-wise thinking. yeah, they have school uniforms but if i'd be taught the same - i'd wear japanese school girl dress every hour of the day for that.

  • @Makron5
    @Makron5 11 років тому +1

    It is time to adopt the Finnish Language as the international language.

  • @jazzbeau507
    @jazzbeau507 3 роки тому

    In the US, you learn to a large extent in spite of the educational system. You have to unlearn much of what you are taught this is not right, you have to learn what you did not learn in school, and you have to overcome an environment that can be counterproductive. In the US, there has evolved considerable pushback with more home schooling and private schooling, but this solution has problems also; I am happy to see that in some states in the USA, they close "failing schools," however this is probably not done enough.

  • @kalleanka3505
    @kalleanka3505 11 років тому

    No what i am saying is that you can always spend more and get a student to achieve more. Because of the fact resources are limited you (Finland) can spend more on already okey achieving students then us (Sweden) because we have students that need so much just to get to "okey".
    Letting 150 stay and die in Africa or where ever they live today would be more wrong. You choose the amount of resources you "need" for every person. Life comes before "needs" like these.

  • @alanysmatos1481
    @alanysmatos1481 7 років тому +1

    This will not happen ever in the US. They are to boxed in their old ways. It would take them a life time to implement a system like Finlands.

  • @somberlight
    @somberlight 12 років тому

    @hopefultoo actually, i'd think the high standard of teacher-education might actually help you guys. everything is still related to your own relation towards your own teacher, so even if you're not in "the great schools", at least you have a teacher that knows her/his stuff properly and precisely like everyone else.

  • @BayronAnaya
    @BayronAnaya 11 років тому

    Totally true

  • @kakkashin
    @kakkashin 11 років тому

    Exactly my friend.

  • @Venomousse
    @Venomousse 13 років тому

    @kynismos I'm pretty sure it's zero. Some Finns make a big deal out of immigration but really, there are very few immigrants here compared to the rest of Europe.

  • @airsolaja
    @airsolaja 3 роки тому +1

    Respect, respect, respect...something western schools don't understand at all...

  • @carryclass
    @carryclass 12 років тому +1

    all US teachers can think about is retiring at 48 years old with full benefits and 90% of pay

  • @billyboymonks
    @billyboymonks 12 років тому

    GTO would be proud.

  • @WebOnion
    @WebOnion 12 років тому

    The thing about "foreigners to wear armbands" thing was a joke, made by an assistant of one of the members of True Finns political party. An assistant, who wasn't affiliated even a member of said party. The blog in question was written after police were criticized for requesting ID from foreigners, even though they were looking for illegal immigrants. The police were accused of discrimination. The blogger then suggested jokingly that foreigners should wear different armbands so police...

  • @jeylyx6602
    @jeylyx6602 7 років тому

    culi อีกแล้วจ้า อันนี้ดีรู้สึกอยากเรียนแบบ Finland

  • @Osvaldium
    @Osvaldium 11 років тому

    as far as i know it's first dealt with the student and after that with the parents if no changes happen. This way it was dealt with in my school atleast.

  • @TheFlamel96
    @TheFlamel96 11 років тому

    How come we have better Education than other countrys?

  • @r3fridgerator
    @r3fridgerator 12 років тому

    the interesting part is that the school in question here is actually a swedish speaking one.

  • @MRiitta
    @MRiitta 11 років тому

    And sorry for the typoes:)

  • @yetanothermotherf
    @yetanothermotherf 12 років тому

    Why do a bottle of milk go sour after a couple of days?! Regardless where you live, a bottle of milk will go sour and weaker are bullied at school. The video is not about problems in schools - in general. It's about the progress made in Finnish schools during the last decades.

  • @Roope00
    @Roope00 9 років тому +7

    Perkele

  • @dragonfly5665q
    @dragonfly5665q 11 років тому +2

    am crying right now. for real. education in my country is stupid compared to this

  • @GameFuMaster
    @GameFuMaster 11 років тому

    Cool, yeah English has a lot of borrowed words stemming from Greek, Latin, French, German and some other languages, which makes pronunciation as well as understanding the meaning very difficult

  • @adeliannaa
    @adeliannaa 12 років тому

    Finland is education and that says everything about Finish people.
    Very glad to see this video!

  • @chilenozo
    @chilenozo 12 років тому

    @TheYipedo and happy while learning!

  • @RonnyereSenaVital
    @RonnyereSenaVital 11 років тому

    It's good to see how they get engaged to do a wonderful job, How their political views are so different from other parts of the world, thei educational system is pretty good and should be copied by other countries, it is really fascination to see how it works, and works pretty well, in brazil the story is completely different we have one of the worst education system on earth, But I simply know the answer for this question, here in brazil you will never see an investment, there's only corruption

  • @FinnishKT
    @FinnishKT 12 років тому

    Somebody has told you false story about the armband thing. Have you ever heard about A Modest Proposal by Jonathan Swift, where he suggest that " impoverished Irish might ease their economic troubles by selling their children as food for rich gentlemen and ladies."
    The armband things was similar suggestion and it was not meant to be interpreted as a face value, but as a criticism for those people who said that police should not use racial profiling for asking proof of not being illegal aliens.

  • @Osvaldium
    @Osvaldium 11 років тому

    i am sorry to hear that, remember tho that the only way to make a difference is taking actions. Also my post cannot speak for all finnish schools.

  • @mygedhotline
    @mygedhotline 10 років тому +1

    As you see the graph and how Finland ended up doing so well, keep in mind the AIDS crisis in the USA and mass incarceration, not Sunday mass. Here is something else that I found about Finland and its population.
    Thousands of illegal immigrants in Finland
    Finland is home to some 4,000 undocumented migrants-a number much higher than previously believed. YLE’s current affairs programme Silminnäkijä (Eyewitness) says the figure is based on information from officials, aid workers and immigrants.
    Ali elää piilossa Suomessa, koska hän pelkää tulevansa tapetuksi Afganistanissa. Image: Yle
    Illegal aliens are a diverse group, including asylum seekers whose applications have been rejected, those running from so-called 'honour' crime and victims of human trafficking. Some are simply foreigners with expired visas.
    One thing these people share is the fear of being caught. Foreign citizens who are in Finland illegally typically stay with friends and acquaintances.
    No benefits outside society
    Finland’s centralised social security system makes it difficult for people to manage without a Finnish social security number, which is, for example, demanded at banks and hospitals.
    Modelled on a similar operation in Sweden, the Global Clinic was established in Helsinki earlier this year to provide illegal migrants with access to basic healthcare-at a secret location.
    “It’s inconceivable that there are people on Finland’s streets that don’t qualify for any medical care,” says Ville Holmberg, a physician at the Global Clinic.
    Interior Minister Päivi Räsänen has meanwhile spoken out against anonymous clinics for illegals, noting that illegal migration is a continent-wide problem that should be mutually solved.
    Undocumented workers often work off the books, increasing the risk of exploitation.
    “I worked seven days a week. It was difficult to get paid because I was in the country illegally,” says John, who worked as a cleaner at a restaurant in Helsinki.
    An estimated eight million illegal immigrants live in Europe.
    Watch the segment online here.

  • @edwardst-pierre1020
    @edwardst-pierre1020 2 роки тому

    So what you are saying is that small town education is better than a global education.

  • @Lucas_Ficz
    @Lucas_Ficz 12 років тому

    Finland Finland Finland... the country that I want to be (8)

  • @Voiveikkuli
    @Voiveikkuli 12 років тому +1

    Id say education would be even better if learning swedish language would be removed and filled in with maths, or something MORE IMPORTANT :)

  • @somberlight
    @somberlight 12 років тому

    if you're that certain, care to list the disasters we missed completely? according to your words, there should be quite a lot.

  • @alexnogueira9874
    @alexnogueira9874 6 років тому +1

    Brazilians need to invest in their teachers, but it seems to me that this is not the intention of the ruling class in that country.

  • @Nanix1991
    @Nanix1991 12 років тому

    WOW those facilities. Finns are rich!

  • @Urmapleleaf
    @Urmapleleaf 9 років тому +3

    Και εμείς οι Ελληνες καθόμαστε να μαθαίνουμε τα άχρηστα αρχαία Ελληνικά, ως υποχρεωτικό μάθημα,και άλλα άχρηστα παπαγαλίστικα μαθήματα, αντί να μαθαίνουμε τις επίστήμες που μας αρέσουν και πιστεύουμε πως είναι χρήσιμες για την ζωή μας!

  • @BenCadetThePastafarian
    @BenCadetThePastafarian 8 років тому

    what language is spoken there? Finnish? do they speak english?

    • @xXxTr0nxXx
      @xXxTr0nxXx 8 років тому

      +Verner Why isn't russian an official language? I thought they are many russians living in the east?

    • @jinjysbro
      @jinjysbro 8 років тому +4

      They speak Finnish among themselves but when foreigners come they speak English with them.

  • @Nairuulagch
    @Nairuulagch 10 років тому +18

    In Finland if you are a millionare you expect to pay $50 000 fine for Stop sign fines vs in America everybody pays similar fines regardless of income difference. Their legal system is far more sophisticated or fair than any other country.

    • @anafeijo7233
      @anafeijo7233 10 років тому +5

      They also have only 5 million people. You have 318 million.

    • @shaququ
      @shaququ 10 років тому +2

      thats because finland is a marxist shit-hole that hates freedom and personal responsibility. People there are so retarded that they cannot stand it if someone is richer or better than themselves. what a shit country.

    • @anonymoustuber2777
      @anonymoustuber2777 9 років тому +5

      shaququ oh please dont say that ur from america

    • @TuucciZ
      @TuucciZ 9 років тому +10

      shaququ Yeah, damn those commie pieces of shit with universal standards of living, low child poverty rates, and accessible healthcare and education! Why can't they punish rich people with completely insignificant punishments!?

    • @Lionfish5656
      @Lionfish5656 9 років тому +2

      shaququ, someone has been watching too much Fox "News" or Glenn Beck.

  • @keni8190
    @keni8190 6 років тому +50

    The main thing is they are teaching their students to love learning and the teachers love what they do but if you look at other countries like America , Singapore , China they are just trying to strive for perfection and all that is important is grades

  • @Scandilady
    @Scandilady 8 років тому +50

    I was in Helsinki Ateneum Art museum this summer, a group of schoolchildren aged 10-12 year old's were sitting on a floor with sketching pads, I asked one what they are doing? He said they will copy, try to copy some of the paintings, then for a homework will write about the painter. And take it to the school next day.

    • @cossu2821
      @cossu2821 7 років тому

      Oskari Larsen amerikassa ja muissa maissa saat 5x enemmän läksyä oo onnellinen et asut suomessa oisko kivaa sun mielestä että saisit 5 kertaa isommat matikan läksyt?

    • @h3ather
      @h3ather 6 років тому +2

      We have done that in my school (Finland)

  • @ronaldoorozco7211
    @ronaldoorozco7211 8 років тому +27

    Amazing, it's sad watching this from a third world country, no wonder why they have so high quality life, schools in Mexico are pathetic.

    • @Scandilady
      @Scandilady 8 років тому +6

      Gracias, then about the same as in the USA creo...

    • @wenacompa2777
      @wenacompa2777 2 роки тому

      Same here, as a chilean i'll hope go to Finland one day and live there, so good country, nordics are the best in europe and in entire world.

    • @Fl4ngerr
      @Fl4ngerr Місяць тому

      @@wenacompa2777 as a Finn myself I'd rather choose somewhere in developed Asia.

  • @VocalAddiction
    @VocalAddiction 7 років тому +24

    We have a lot to learn from the best - Finland! Greetings from Bulgaria! All together for the kids! :)

    • @naapurinjorma6634
      @naapurinjorma6634 7 років тому

      Bulgaria Estonia and Finland have the same roots for their languanges ^_^

    • @marconatrix
      @marconatrix 7 років тому +2

      Estonia, yes; Bulgaria NO! Were you thinking of Hungary? Hungarian is very distantly related to Finnish.

    • @skoch9995
      @skoch9995 2 роки тому +1

      @@naapurinjorma6634 Finland and Hungry have the same roots
      (Ugro-Finish). But because they lived so far away from each other for so long they can’t understand each other. (Estonia - maybe but Bulgaria NO)
      I talked to the girl from Finland and she confirmed that info.

  • @allu1dxd
    @allu1dxd 7 років тому +23

    So proud being finnish girl

  • @MsJanetWood
    @MsJanetWood 13 років тому +45

    1:44 "Ask the teachers!"
    2:05 "Teachers are appreciated in this country."
    3:15 "Twenty lessons a week." Wow! They have another twenty hours for grading papers and preparing lessons plans!
    They listen to the teachers in Finland!

  • @worthlessopinion6594
    @worthlessopinion6594 9 років тому +24

    i wish i Finland citizens

    • @naapurinjorma6634
      @naapurinjorma6634 7 років тому +8

      Gr8 english m8

    • @mohamedfarah1447
      @mohamedfarah1447 7 років тому +1

      its not the best place for like non white people you can come across alot of racism but the system is alright

    • @mohamedfarah1447
      @mohamedfarah1447 7 років тому +1

      its not the best place for like non white people you can come across alot of racism but the system is alright

    • @mohamedfarah1447
      @mohamedfarah1447 7 років тому +1

      its not the best place for like non white people you can come across alot of racism but the system is alright

    • @mohamedfarah1447
      @mohamedfarah1447 7 років тому +1

      its not the best place for like non white people you can come across alot of racism but the system is alright

  • @Dizzz127
    @Dizzz127 12 років тому +5

    I saw a documentary somewhere. Their teachers have to be highly qualified like lawyers and doctors. They have no private schools and no testing. They do not invite competition. A very relaxed atmosphere where the students want to learn, not worrying if someone next to them is better then them.

  • @sugashookymin4601
    @sugashookymin4601 4 роки тому +6

    I am a public school teacher here in the 🇵🇭 and I must say, we are overworked yet underpaid because our government are prioritizing the armed forces. 😭😢

    • @morishidol4209
      @morishidol4209 4 роки тому

      Ww 3 start soon..
      Usa-Middle east.
      So....

  • @iZ4D3
    @iZ4D3 12 років тому +6

    I'm so proud of my school which is in this video ;D

  • @Highlyskeptical
    @Highlyskeptical 13 років тому +2

    We should test pilot what they do in a few cities, see what works, and apply it to the rest of the country.
    Can't be worse than what we have now, the lazy, apathetic, and ignorant of today will be the adults and parents that pass on those values to their children tomorrow.