***** Those Finns moved to Sweden during and in the decades after the Second World War. At the time, Finland's position as a Western and democratic neighbor of the Soviet Union scared many Finns and the country's massive change in economic structure from agriculture to industry and technology left many out of work. Sweden on the other hand was in need of workers. In the recent years, however, the amount of people moving from Finland to Sweden has become roughly equal to the amount moving in the opposite direction. Finland has a large and healthy population of Finnish Swedes who seem to be quite happy living in Finland, so the argument goes both ways!
+Marianne that can you do in other languages too and most people in europa learn english, it is only that we live in a world where you have 2. system that work 1. that finnlands where kids are happy and can be kids, 2. second that asian system like in china or korea or japan where kids get work dead and yes that really happen in jajan and china they have high fences on their schools because many kids sucuide because it is too much for them!!! And most other countrys are not so crazy but it could happen fast because we are living in a combative world and that makes people ill and kids too but we let slight like idiots!!! Mfg. Lancelot
I live in Finland and I promise you this country is a great place to live in. Many of us take it for granted though. I consider myself very lucky to have born here.
The main thing is they are teaching their students to love learning and the teachers love what they do but if you look at other countries like America , Singapore , China they are just trying to strive for perfection and all that is important is grades
Teachers in America have so much passion and love. We want all of our students to have a chance. The system just isn't built that way. We get burnt out so fast. The people who make the standardized tests in the U.S. do not know our students.
Marissa I have a ton of respect for teachers. It pains me to see how undervalued they are in the USA. We need to pay our teachers better, we need to be a great partner to our teachers as parents, and we need to let them have more input and freedom in education. Basically what we do now is tell them to go to school, get them in debt, pay them nothing and tell them they don’t really know better. Our education system is a disaster.
In kazakhstan education suck too. The system is almost unchanged since collapse of some certain “communist” state. Teachers just teach how to pass UNT(united national test) and to pass National exams. And they also agree that the real school is not the place but the DESIRE TO LEARN-STUDY. But despite everyone hating educ-sys no one’s going to protest or ask the government for any changes. But even if tests in schools wouldn’t be necessary to graduate the school, and the lessons would be so free, the government couldn’t afford the price of the education quality(the money also could’ve consumed in governmental corruption)
I'm really happy that this system exists, because since it's the one with better results, it's just a matter of time for other countries to adopt it. Here in South America we really need to work on the educational system. In Chile, where i live in, speaking of treating teachers as professionals is unheard of, they have little authority, and that causes on them a lack of motivation to teach. In my opinion, education is the topic that should be first improved, because it's the engine that makes progress happen in every country.
You can really sense the calmness and contentment in the air from the vibes of kids in the classroom!!!! No wonder they are among the happiest countries too!!!
I was in Helsinki Ateneum Art museum this summer, a group of schoolchildren aged 10-12 year old's were sitting on a floor with sketching pads, I asked one what they are doing? He said they will copy, try to copy some of the paintings, then for a homework will write about the painter. And take it to the school next day.
Oskari Larsen amerikassa ja muissa maissa saat 5x enemmän läksyä oo onnellinen et asut suomessa oisko kivaa sun mielestä että saisit 5 kertaa isommat matikan läksyt?
1:44 "Ask the teachers!" 2:05 "Teachers are appreciated in this country." 3:15 "Twenty lessons a week." Wow! They have another twenty hours for grading papers and preparing lessons plans! They listen to the teachers in Finland!
I saw a documentary somewhere. Their teachers have to be highly qualified like lawyers and doctors. They have no private schools and no testing. They do not invite competition. A very relaxed atmosphere where the students want to learn, not worrying if someone next to them is better then them.
I won a Study Journey in the north Europe and I was very confused If I should have chose Denmarl or Finland...Then I heard about Finland School System...I think I made my answer..Finland all the way
I went there for a summer as an exchange student two years ago! It's sooooo fun being in Finland! I didn't go to school, but if you have any questions about Finland, I'm happy to help :) Have a fantastic time!
@@naapurinjorma6634 Finland and Hungry have the same roots (Ugro-Finish). But because they lived so far away from each other for so long they can’t understand each other. (Estonia - maybe but Bulgaria NO) I talked to the girl from Finland and she confirmed that info.
@@paganpoet3 That's certainly the stereotype. And when they picked Trump&Pence they lost a truckload of credibility, around the world. But, if they now throw them out, in a harsh manner - with Trump and his crime syndicate ending up in prison - they will have a chance to restart; including international friendships that Trump has worked so hard to insult and destroy. Hope Americans refind the beacon of light that used to explain how they have been credited with half of Nobel Prices.
Besides, America is about making money so the school system is private and wants your money. The whole of American Society is based on competition not cooperation so it will never change.
In Finland if you are a millionare you expect to pay $50 000 fine for Stop sign fines vs in America everybody pays similar fines regardless of income difference. Their legal system is far more sophisticated or fair than any other country.
thats because finland is a marxist shit-hole that hates freedom and personal responsibility. People there are so retarded that they cannot stand it if someone is richer or better than themselves. what a shit country.
shaququ Yeah, damn those commie pieces of shit with universal standards of living, low child poverty rates, and accessible healthcare and education! Why can't they punish rich people with completely insignificant punishments!?
The classroom environment is so different from Kenyan schools. Their classrooms are pro-cooperative, collaborative and visually stimulating. Kenyan learners sit for 8 years in primary school listening to the teaching, looking at the blackboard and two or three posters on the wall.
Unfortunately many countries are a few years or decades behind in many things from education to health, human rights and so on. Helps if you have a lot of money like Finland I guess.
Wow! I've been an admirer of education in Finland. It is awesome how the learning values and empowers creativity, innovation, curiosity and collaboration. Really the education that is essential for enrichment of learning and progress of the society.
keep in mind that the things which they talk about in this video are only Facilitators of learning.not the substance ,which involved freedom of the student,which is the real material of learning.learning will happen greatly with or without these things.but public school in America is designed to create obstacles.
It is not their schooling system that is better, it is their Society that is better, based on courtesy civility and discourse, those values are thought at home and reinforced at school, this is why the kids behave and learn
Now this totally proves why we hate going to college,because it's so bad in every way . Im from India ,my school visakha valley ,Visakhapatnam is the best place I lived in ,now this longterm after intermediate is the worst place to even go for a day . I felt like watching my school in this video . Ur education system rocks btw
In France there are 30 children per class in primary school, more than 35 in high school. I think that's the main problem of our educational system, because children listen more thank they do. If one child gives the good answer but another one didn't understand, the teacher let him know that he can't say it because it will slow down the entire class. On the other side, they keep repeating things that some children already know. It bores them, they get frustrated and don't learn how to learn, and when they need to learn things in middle school, their grades drop because they didn't know how to learn. Plus, in some départements, the minimum grade at the final exam can be less than 25%!
+Eloïsa I agree the education in France really sucks. And people get their positions so much from who they know that there is not a huge drive to solve the issue.
I can't agree more. You are talking about the French educational system that Morocco takes as a model. Here in Morocco, education is worse. Teachers do not have a say in what should be taken as measures for improvement. Parents give up the responsibility, they find solution in the private sector which consists another hindrance to fair opportunities. Furthermore, large classes and lack of materials make teacher's mission an impossible one. We don't have xeroxing machines, teacher pay to make copies for testing their pupils. Moreover, the Learning hours make students tired and bored. They study 34 hours a week. Why don't we adopt Finland's educational system? The answer : politicians don't want people to succeed.
I think that as a parent you sould work together with your childrens teachers to help your children achive their ful potential, it will tak a big load off of the teachers and allow them to use you as a suport system for the child. And it will help your children, by leting them know that you are with them on their journey to success. I am thank full to the teachers of my child, I volunter and help them as much as they need me to. It is up to us parents to help our teachrs. Thank you Teachers!
Their teachers are all huge and healhy which creates a sense of admiration in children because they want to grow too and they select their teachers as a point of reference and their teachers seem also much more calm and relaxed which children do really appreciate.They seem to manage their children better because children like to be managed by them.
The Finland education system looks pretty wonderful watching the video but at the same time those ranking systems should not be used as a precursor for what we should necessarily be doing. In 2009 South Korea ranked no.1 in reading and math and no.3 in science yet I would never use their education system as the method for achievement - and I like the country. South Korea has some of the highest suicide rates in the world. Stress is a major problem in their nation. Their style of teaching is rote memorization (one of the reasons that Korean airliner bumped into the San Francisco runway). Seoul is as close to pure capitalism as I have seen; driven by money with few worker rights. Their idea of achievement is to attend a prestigious university and generally enter stereotypical professions (i.e. doctor, lawyer, scientist). South Korea places no emphasis on the trades. IMO grades in school are no determination of success or failure. Success is a product of who the person is. By the time we reach high school we should already know enough reading, math and sciences to function in the world. High school should be a place where industry and education work hand in hand to help each student start down the path to achieving their goals. It should be like an internship program or mentorship program between industry and education. For students who don't know what their goals (dreams) are it should be helping them work in their areas of interest so they can make a goal. High school should not end at age 18 but should end based on the needs of the student. It doesn't help society to send an unprepared and under educated student into the work force. University should not be the emphasis of high school, it should be emphasised that it is a tool for those who need it. PISA should not be used as a standard for what other nations should be doing. It is a poor example IMO. Teachers need to open classrooms to open discussion and a style of teaching that encourages thinking outside the box. We need creative thinkers not robots who learned via rote memorization and facts. For example history should be debated and discussed not stated in terms of facts (i.e. most American history taught in the schools is bullshit).
The value and self worth are the most important things in this profession and indeed Finland is doing great in this sector. I wish, it becomes universal.
Wow nicely said all....For a start i am not a white or a Finnish guy.I am an African...if i was to grade Finland when it comes to education I would put them among the top 5 in the world because i school in Finland and i can tell you their educational system is damn great...And Language was never a problem for me because they treat every one equally..no matter your color or nationality....
Many of these schools that were shown in this bit were swedish schools in finland. Finland as many might not know has two official languages that are : Finnish and Swedish, thats why there are a "group" of people who are called the swedish talking finns.
I am a public school teacher here in the 🇵🇭 and I must say, we are overworked yet underpaid because our government are prioritizing the armed forces. 😭😢
In Finland it seems they use scientific research to inform their teaching methodology and school system. They recruit the best teachers and pay them accordingly. They leave the teachers to get on with their jobs Everywhere else they use political ideology to inform their systems They value their teachers by how cheap they get them. Politicians and anyone else with an agenda constantly interfere with the teaching.
Finnish language is also very transparent, having very few words with non-Finnish root, and using very rich derivational morphology. That means, Finns can guess the meaning of most words they have never heard of before, while for English-speaking pupils unknown words are more or less perfectly opaque. So when Finnish 8 year old 1st grader can with ease read newspaper articles and understand most of it, I hear over 10% of 16 year old US citizens would struggle, presented with that same task.
having a pure language that purists dream of is entirely not fascist. look at this. its a great methodology. keeping it simple and clear. with a curriculum that helps the language. so literacy in primary education really helps them very well to understand science maths at an early age.
As a student, I felt that the educational system in the U.S.A concentrated too much on math, science, and reading/writing and little concern on artistic work or hand on training. As a student, I learned to memorize notes and key answers for exam or quiz. I realized that much of what I've learned in class will never be used in the real world. I have to self teach myself and other student on subject that I didn't quite understand. It's almost like the blinds are leading the blind.
Everything in life comes down to maths and science. 1.The no of hrs you work. If maths not imp ,why keep an account of time? 2. The food you eat is in portions. If maths is not imp ( in this case volume)why do you stop eating when stomach is full? Continue eating. 3 The amt of oxygen you breathe . If maths not imp, science not imp breathe CO2. 4. If maths ,science not imp why worry about Covid 19? There are so many examples.
Can we learn from Finland ? Finland performs much better than England and the USA in the PISA test. In this international test the students have to apply their knowledge in novel situations. It seems that their average pupils achieve comparatively higher scores than those in other countries. Does this reflect Government directives, the headteacher, the teachers, teaching methods, continual assessment, revision methods or parental involvement? At the Government level ... The Government in Finland introduced a law so that all children have a 15 minute break after 45 minutes of teaching. This prevents cognitive overload for pupils and teachers. It also provides time for the teacher to speak to misbehaving pupils and achieve good discipline. The Government decided on mixed ability classes. (Mixed ability has recently been shown in UCL randomised trials to be more effective than streaming or setting). In Finland bright pupils are paired with less able pupils and each has to describe what has been learned in the lesson. This is peer to peer assessment and pupils soon realise what they have and have not learned. The Government sets out a curriculum that is short with only a few pages of text per subject. The curriculum is not overwhelming, leaving time in the year for teachers to plan local activities and innovate. The Government approves science and mathematics textbooks that have been tried and tested in schools. Textbooks have teacher guides and these provide lesson plans for teachers for every term. They also contain extension material, printouts and projects. Textbooks are supplemented with free internet material. The Government directs examination boards to set questions that assess the understanding of concepts and their application in novel situations rather than just factual recall. The application of knowledge (problem solving) is a higher order of skill in Blooms Taxonomy of Learning. There is a minimum reliance on multiple choice questions as these are viewed as only useful for testing factual recall. The Government believes that SATs testing is unnecessary as continual assessment provides sufficient data about pupil attainment. The Government is now reviewing the curriculum to periodically introduce topics that require strategies which are needed in modern industry, such as working together and creativity. At the Headteacher level... The school day is organised with one hour periods and each period includes a lesson of 45 minutes and a 15 minute break. There are also morning and afternoon 15 minute coffee breaks and a lunch hour. The Head meets each teacher in an interview every term to discuss class progress, any problems with individual pupils, innovations, new topics etc. There are no heads of department and one teacher is given responsibility for ordering equipment, materials etc. The Head is responsible for standards and these are checked yearly by the government who give an examination to a few pupils in a year group. School inspectors can visit if results are unsatisfactory. Poorly performing pupils or gifted pupils are interviewed with their parents, the class teacher, a school psychologist and a social worker present. The Head provides an academic route or a vocational route for pupils aged 16. The Head insists that good discipline is introduced quickly in the school and is effective at an early age. Head teachers believe that learning cannot occur if minor disruption occurs in lessons. At the teacher level... Teachers enjoy their jobs and few leave teaching. Some teachers are only qualified to teach pupils between the ages of 7 to 13. They teach all subjects in a mixed ability class with less than 20 pupils. They keep the same class from year to year and soon know the pupils that need extra support. Other teachers are subject specialists and teach pupils aged 13+ Teachers on exchange visits comment that lessons are not drastically different to those in their countries and comment that Finnish teachers are not ‘super teachers’. A common lesson format is a period of teacher talk followed by the pupil reading the textbook and answering some factual recall and problem solving questions. A short test is then used to monitor learning in the lesson. In summary, passive learning is followed by active learning and a short test gives immediate feedback. Teacher talk probably accounts for 15 minutes in the lesson. Teachers are trained to monitor learning effectively with short tests in every lesson and termly tests. The results for the latter are used for grades (these are entered into a national database). This is continual assessment. Teachers keep a portfolio of children’s work and comment on this frequently. New targets are set after a discussion with the pupil. Teachers set a short homework every week and pupils mark their own homework in class as the teacher goes through the marking scheme. Pupils have to comment on their results and results are entered into the national database. If no homework is done this is also recorded. Teachers use textbooks and the lesson plans in the teacher guides. They feel there is no need to ‘reinvent the wheel’. Teachers are expected to design a new topic for lessons at the end of the year and show their creativity to the Headteacher. Teachers have 2 hours of professional development per week to discuss lessons, learning and new ideas. At the pupil level... Pupils enter the classroom and take off their shoes. Pupils listen, read their textbook and answer questions, write summaries and are tested in every lesson. Pupils keep a portfolio of work and are self critical about their own work using a proforma. Pupils say they appreciate the regular 15 minute breaks every hour. Pupils work well and quietly in class for 45 minutes. Pupils conduct peer to peer tests as a revision process. A bright pupil is paired with a less able pupil. Each pupil has to explain a concept to the other pupil and they persist until mastery is achieved. Older pupils do projects over a three week period using school computers. Some homework involves using the internet for research. As the project progresses other pupils can comment on it. Pupils are required to give presentations to describe their completed projects to other class members who ask questions and offer constructive criticism. Parents... Parents receive a form at the end of term which provides the grade for the end of term tests. They have to sign this and return it to the school. Parents attend parents’ evenings. Parents are satisfied that homework is brief (sometimes only 30 minutes per week) and are pleased that their children have time to have hobbies and interests. Some parents do not like the idea of peer to peer revision as it seems that the bright pupil is being used as a teacher. They want their bright pupils to do extra studies. Schools believe that this method benefits both abilities. Parents can see test results on a national database. Parents can be contacted by teachers using mobile phone messages if progress is slow or behaviour is poor. Parents buy school workbooks and textbooks for upper secondary pupils. These are used daily in class and parents can see that their children are getting a broad, balanced and relevant curriculum. Parents pay for examination entries. Parents do not make sandwiches for their children. Pupils receive a free meal at school and they are not allowed off site to buy junk food. Parents pay for extra curricular activities after school. Music is very popular. Comment... It would seem that there are many similarities and differences between Finnish education and that of other countries. There is certainly no one silver bullet for success. Finnish success has been achieved by implementing a complex well organised system. The major factors are:- 1. At the classroom level the most obvious factor is the typical lesson plan which is composed of a short teacher talk phase (15 mins), an active learning phase using textbook questions to enhance learning and a short test phase to provide feedback to the learner and the teacher. 2. The use of continuous assessment is another important factor in that Finnish pupils are regularly made accountable for their own learning through lesson tests, termly tests, portfolios and self assessment proformas. 3. Finnish examination questions have a standard format. Copious text is initially provided before questions and this must be carefully read and analysed by pupils. Questions then require the pupil to apply the concepts they know to the novel context. Teachers incorporate this type of question into their lessons as examination preparation and problem solving becomes a regular learning activity for pupils. Such questions are similar to PISA questions. The three factors above could easily be implemented in any country that is considering curriculum change. I believe that they are fundamental to the success of Finland in PISA. Further reading... ‘Cleverlands’ by Lucy Crehan on Kindle. Lucy Crehan was a science teacher who taught in several countries to understand their success. She wrote a book called ‘Cleverlands’ and there is a long chapter on the Finnish educational system.
I am Finnish and spent sometime in America where my kids went to preschool and 2nd grade...I remember having a right panic attack everyday I went to pick my kids up at 15.00 I knew I had a tough job ahead of me...over 2 hours a day per kid so I spent my whole evening doing homework...Lucky I was able to afford it. I hired privately one of the teachers to spend hours and do homework and private tuition with my kids. We finally came back to Finland and I never saw homework...only once in a while kids finish their homework before they come home
Finland is not a multicultural society. It does not have the challenges of a country like UK or USA. One thing is that it looks like Finland funds it education correctly, places great status on teaching profession and insisting on a masters degree for teaching reinforces that.
Finland has one of the world's best educational systems. Sometimes even topping other countries that have a COMPLETELY different educational system like South Korea and Singapore. From what I've seen in this and other videos, I like this, especially since it seems like a very relaxed and happy atmosphere, and they really encourage creativity...unlike most Asian schools or even most other schools for that matter
oh you can implement it just fine, there are just few things you need to do and get rid of first, and none of them are easy to pull off. step 1) first principle of learning is not a competition, it's teamwork. plan everything on that.
@Nanix1991 Finland spends less money per pupil than America does. It's not just about being able to afford something, it's what you do with your resources, how wisely you use (spend) them and what your priorities are.
I go to this school. It's a normal public school, therefore the teaching is virtually identical to any other public school in the country. It was quite recently built (just over a decade old) so it does look a bit better than your average Finnish school.
you had to understand that education is very important I know every criticism from all sides but you have to understand that education Education and education is very very important for a society You have to understand this
james hancock it's partly society as well, since e.g. in finland teachers are respected and students are taught to respect them as authorities, and that won't happen if society doesn't agree with irt. :) (I'm using finland as example because that's what I have experience of)
Ok, what about a Dr and Professor? Dr Pasi Sahlberg, Director General of the Organisation for International Mobility and Cooperation (in the Ministry of Education) in Helsinki. There are many videos where he explains the differences in Finlands and UK/US educations and why the UK/US are a failure. In Finland they pay less for each student than in US, but get way better results. The results in US could be that good too, it they would drop the belif competition is what is needed in every area.
actually in my opinion it's so damn good we don't have private schools and education. that's the reason. EVERYONE has a chance to get education, get work etc. even if you are poor or a rich.
I'm amazed by this, just when I thought that there was no chance at all for our generation to outstand I think we finally hit the melting point where it all can change ... and it's the education, overall education has the power to move societies faster than we thought, In South America we struggle with the education, and there's very poor guidance from teachers as well as the educational center itself to motivate children to develop their best skills. I hope that Finland can help us South American societies to shape our children's grounds, truly because we're a continent that raises up very fast in population and we feel the weight of that on a third world country overall if there's not a good education.
Yep, i guess you are right about that. School bullying is so universal phenomena. I was just sad and angry at the same time for those families who lost their beloved one during these finnish school shooting! Vengeance stinks but bullying do the same thing. I hope we as a humankind can grow our empathy level and become better , caring humans in the future!!
It doesn't equate success but it helps alot to create quality of education with only people from the higher level of society. It's easier to get a ten when you start with every student at zero then if you start with students ranging between zero and minus eight.
Not to mention the adult education.. which is free,too. I studied in the free of charge evening classes and have had a beautiful own business after that (20 years).. so what do we do wrong??
Awesome -- we need to bring the finnish system to the US -- unfortunately our capitalist system is forcing more charter schools at the moment -- dismantling our public education in the name of the free market..
***** Mr Babak, thank you for your comment. I was very surprised when I read that 7% of the USA High School grads can't find the USA on a world map.So change is needed.
The problem with your argument is that these diversified schools you speak of are in poor areas. Give poor black and Hispanic kids rich wealthy environments and within a generation they will be the Sam as whites. It's true that to an extent white have a better work ethic and culture I admit that but that can be quickly learned. It's hard to learn when you are surrounded by poverty drugs crime and the legacy of slavery
You know the women in the video is the head of the US teachers union and would probably support that nationally. Here in CA, the state will pay for you to get a masters if you have been teaching for more than five years. Most charter schools are achieve horrible results. And I have no idea what Ricradian competitive advantage has to do with education and learning.
The "suggestion" also included armbands for native Finns. And there were many clues that the writing was not meant to be interpreted with face value, like the fact that the armbands for people from USA, would have a picture of hamburger.
All education systems are a product of the culture within which they operate. The only way to have a system the same as Finland's is to become Finland. Of course, good ideas can be borrowed. Requiring teachers to have master's degrees is probably unimportant in itself - some of my worst teachers were the best qualified - but it does reflect the value given to teachers and education by society, and I'd say this value is probably the single most important factor.
If we had a system for recruiting & educating future teacher like we do with military officers, we could be No 1 in the world. If you want to be an officer in the military, we have military academies & ROTC programs that will put you through college.You just have to give back a specific amount of time to the military in return. We then also have programs that will send officers through Master programs. We would dominate if we put as much effort into creating teachers as we do military officers.
I don't know what you implying. But all students in finland goes to the same school, "zero" and "minus eight" alike. What IS important is that all get help, and you get that in small classes. Not in classes with 30-40 students, like in Sweden. We used to have good results, like Finland. Then we started to get bigger classes and lower salery for teachers. The current gov. thinks that national tests will help, but it hasn't. Teachers need to test often, but not national tests. That stress student
I think almost every country could learn from Finland because they think about the children and how to actually ingage them in their academics, Instead of just being like: TEACHER: Here, we have to memorise all these individuals in Medival England and how they impacted medicine. MY BRAIN: BISH, wtf? JUST WHHHHY? Why? That's it we're going to Finald, no doubt about it!
@iTzMattz I guess Canada's isn't too bad. We're near the top in the rankings! But the Finnish system really is extremely interesting. They barely study yet they rank so high...I guess it's because the children in every class is so FEW.
By helping bad teachers, what do you mean? Because here in the US, a bad teacher is probably something completely different. Typically, its someone who abuses tenure. Someone who has worked for x amount of years, and is now nearly impossible to fire without causing problems with the AFT. These teachers typically come in and check ebay and facebook all day while assigning bookwork, and getting a stuffy salary. Thats what I was talking about...
Bullshit, I don't trouble myself to write in every video about Finnish schools, only in some that eventually reach me. But I do reply to comments and take the time to tell my colleagues about my experiences in Finland, good and bad. More about the bad than the good.
This is amazing. I only wish that the education in United States was exactly like this! My education was lacking in many ways. I wish I was educated in Finland.
Im from Finland and those who want to move here come its very nice in here lot's of nature fresh air not so hot summers kinda cold winters and ofc some english shows like How i met your mother,Umbelievable Dr.Pol and many others
to have been born in Finland is to have won the lottery of the world.
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the grass is ALWAYS greener on the other side :)
ponhaus lol
***** Those Finns moved to Sweden during and in the decades after the Second World War. At the time, Finland's position as a Western and democratic neighbor of the Soviet Union scared many Finns and the country's massive change in economic structure from agriculture to industry and technology left many out of work. Sweden on the other hand was in need of workers. In the recent years, however, the amount of people moving from Finland to Sweden has become roughly equal to the amount moving in the opposite direction.
Finland has a large and healthy population of Finnish Swedes who seem to be quite happy living in Finland, so the argument goes both ways!
I'm English. I wish that I was born in Iceland or Finland.
+Marianne that can you do in other languages too and most people in europa learn english, it is only that we live in a world where you have 2. system that work 1. that finnlands where kids are happy and can be kids, 2. second that asian system like in china or korea or japan where kids get work dead and yes that really happen in jajan and china they have high fences on their schools because many kids sucuide because it is too much for them!!! And most other countrys are not so crazy but it could happen fast because we are living in a combative world and that makes people ill and kids too but we let slight like idiots!!!
Mfg. Lancelot
I live in Finland and I promise you this country is a great place to live in. Many of us take it for granted though. I consider myself very lucky to have born here.
as you should
Dear how is Rovaniemi for students, I got admission University of Rovaniemi.
We treat teachers like humans. They're almost like an aunt or uncle to us, authority but friendly
The main thing is they are teaching their students to love learning and the teachers love what they do but if you look at other countries like America , Singapore , China they are just trying to strive for perfection and all that is important is grades
Teachers in America have so much passion and love. We want all of our students to have a chance. The system just isn't built that way. We get burnt out so fast. The people who make the standardized tests in the U.S. do not know our students.
Marissa I have a ton of respect for teachers. It pains me to see how undervalued they are in the USA. We need to pay our teachers better, we need to be a great partner to our teachers as parents, and we need to let them have more input and freedom in education. Basically what we do now is tell them to go to school, get them in debt, pay them nothing and tell them they don’t really know better. Our education system is a disaster.
I’m from California and all my teachers were in it for the money. Never learned a thing and they always complained about making 120k plus a year.
In kazakhstan education suck too. The system is almost unchanged since collapse of some certain “communist” state. Teachers just teach how to pass UNT(united national test) and to pass National exams. And they also agree that the real school is not the place but the DESIRE TO LEARN-STUDY. But despite everyone hating educ-sys no one’s going to protest or ask the government for any changes. But even if tests in schools wouldn’t be necessary to graduate the school, and the lessons would be so free, the government couldn’t afford the price of the education quality(the money also could’ve consumed in governmental corruption)
I'm really happy that this system exists, because since it's the one with better results, it's just a matter of time for other countries to adopt it.
Here in South America we really need to work on the educational system. In Chile, where i live in, speaking of treating teachers as professionals is unheard of, they have little authority, and that causes on them a lack of motivation to teach.
In my opinion, education is the topic that should be first improved, because it's the engine that makes progress happen in every country.
Nicely said Deimos :)
You can really sense the calmness and contentment in the air from the vibes of kids in the classroom!!!! No wonder they are among the happiest countries too!!!
I was in Helsinki Ateneum Art museum this summer, a group of schoolchildren aged 10-12 year old's were sitting on a floor with sketching pads, I asked one what they are doing? He said they will copy, try to copy some of the paintings, then for a homework will write about the painter. And take it to the school next day.
Oskari Larsen amerikassa ja muissa maissa saat 5x enemmän läksyä oo onnellinen et asut suomessa oisko kivaa sun mielestä että saisit 5 kertaa isommat matikan läksyt?
We have done that in my school (Finland)
1:44 "Ask the teachers!"
2:05 "Teachers are appreciated in this country."
3:15 "Twenty lessons a week." Wow! They have another twenty hours for grading papers and preparing lessons plans!
They listen to the teachers in Finland!
I saw a documentary somewhere. Their teachers have to be highly qualified like lawyers and doctors. They have no private schools and no testing. They do not invite competition. A very relaxed atmosphere where the students want to learn, not worrying if someone next to them is better then them.
Small class sizes are really good at teaching students
I won a Study Journey in the north Europe and I was very confused If I should have chose Denmarl or Finland...Then I heard about Finland School System...I think I made my answer..Finland all the way
+Niky Neko ツ When are you coming?
I went there for a summer as an exchange student two years ago! It's sooooo fun being in Finland! I didn't go to school, but if you have any questions about Finland, I'm happy to help :) Have a fantastic time!
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+horsesrmylife78 how to apply for studying in Finland what do they care for do they car for high scores and these stuff ?? please help me thanks
Periliguitsy Thats what i thought
We have a lot to learn from the best - Finland! Greetings from Bulgaria! All together for the kids! :)
Bulgaria Estonia and Finland have the same roots for their languanges ^_^
Estonia, yes; Bulgaria NO! Were you thinking of Hungary? Hungarian is very distantly related to Finnish.
@@naapurinjorma6634 Finland and Hungry have the same roots
(Ugro-Finish). But because they lived so far away from each other for so long they can’t understand each other. (Estonia - maybe but Bulgaria NO)
I talked to the girl from Finland and she confirmed that info.
We all have a lot to learn from the finnish school system.
Yes, but why after all these years we are making no progress!!!
@@charlesponzi9608 Because you elected *Dumb Stump Donald Trump* as your president and a few other dummies before him. That’s why !!!
as a Finn I can say, it's not so good as it seems.
We Americans could learn something from the Finns.
Americans can't learn...They are the best in the world.Thats the only thing they know.
@@paganpoet3 That's certainly the stereotype. And when they picked Trump&Pence they lost a truckload of credibility, around the world. But, if they now throw them out, in a harsh manner - with Trump and his crime syndicate ending up in prison - they will have a chance to restart; including international friendships that Trump has worked so hard to insult and destroy. Hope Americans refind the beacon of light that used to explain how they have been credited with half of Nobel Prices.
Besides, America is about making money so the school system is private and wants your money.
The whole of American Society is based on competition not cooperation so it will never change.
We Finns could learn something from the developed Asian nations.
In Finland if you are a millionare you expect to pay $50 000 fine for Stop sign fines vs in America everybody pays similar fines regardless of income difference. Their legal system is far more sophisticated or fair than any other country.
They also have only 5 million people. You have 318 million.
thats because finland is a marxist shit-hole that hates freedom and personal responsibility. People there are so retarded that they cannot stand it if someone is richer or better than themselves. what a shit country.
shaququ oh please dont say that ur from america
shaququ Yeah, damn those commie pieces of shit with universal standards of living, low child poverty rates, and accessible healthcare and education! Why can't they punish rich people with completely insignificant punishments!?
shaququ, someone has been watching too much Fox "News" or Glenn Beck.
The classroom environment is so different from Kenyan schools. Their classrooms are pro-cooperative, collaborative and visually stimulating. Kenyan learners sit for 8 years in primary school listening to the teaching, looking at the blackboard and two or three posters on the wall.
nmwombe kinda like in Brazil.
+nmwombe That sounds like what my school was like in Finland. It didn't really hinder learning.
Unfortunately many countries are a few years or decades behind in many things from education to health, human rights and so on. Helps if you have a lot of money like Finland I guess.
nmwombe still stuck in 80s?
Wow! I've been an admirer of education in Finland. It is awesome how the learning values and empowers creativity, innovation, curiosity and collaboration. Really the education that is essential for enrichment of learning and progress of the society.
keep in mind that the things which they talk about in this video are only Facilitators of learning.not the substance ,which involved freedom of the student,which is the real material of learning.learning will happen greatly with or without these things.but public school in America is designed to create obstacles.
So proud being finnish girl
You got luck!
Greetings from Spain
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It is not their schooling system that is better, it is their Society that is better, based on courtesy civility and discourse, those values are thought at home and reinforced at school, this is why the kids behave and learn
Now this totally proves why we hate going to college,because it's so bad in every way .
Im from India ,my school visakha valley ,Visakhapatnam is the best place I lived in ,now this longterm after intermediate is the worst place to even go for a day .
I felt like watching my school in this video .
Ur education system rocks btw
Quality of teaching in Finland is absolutely first class. Teachers are highly appreciated for their works skills, knowledge and their qualifications.
Depends a lot on the level of your degree.
In France there are 30 children per class in primary school, more than 35 in high school. I think that's the main problem of our educational system, because children listen more thank they do.
If one child gives the good answer but another one didn't understand, the teacher let him know that he can't say it because it will slow down the entire class.
On the other side, they keep repeating things that some children already know. It bores them, they get frustrated and don't learn how to learn, and when they need to learn things in middle school, their grades drop because they didn't know how to learn.
Plus, in some départements, the minimum grade at the final exam can be less than 25%!
+Eloïsa im finnish, and my classes from the 3rd to the 6th grade had more than 30 people.
+Eloïsa I agree the education in France really sucks. And people get their positions so much from who they know that there is not a huge drive to solve the issue.
I can't agree more. You are talking about the French educational system that Morocco takes as a model.
Here in Morocco, education is worse. Teachers do not have a say in what should be taken as measures for improvement. Parents give up the responsibility, they find solution in the private sector which consists another hindrance to fair opportunities. Furthermore, large classes and lack of materials make teacher's mission an impossible one. We don't have xeroxing machines, teacher pay to make copies for testing their pupils. Moreover, the Learning hours make students tired and bored. They study 34 hours a week. Why don't we adopt Finland's educational system? The answer : politicians don't want people to succeed.
The education in Finland really works! Thumbs up
I think that as a parent you sould work together with your childrens teachers to help your children achive their ful potential, it will tak a big load off of the teachers and allow them to use you as a suport system for the child. And it will help your children, by leting them know that you are with them on their journey to success. I am thank full to the teachers of my child, I volunter and help them as much as they need me to. It is up to us parents to help our teachrs. Thank you Teachers!
Their teachers are all huge and healhy which creates a sense of admiration in children because they want to grow too and they select their teachers as a point of reference and their teachers seem also much more calm and relaxed which children do really appreciate.They seem to manage their children better because children like to be managed by them.
The Finland education system looks pretty wonderful watching the video but at the same time those ranking systems should not be used as a precursor for what we should necessarily be doing. In 2009 South Korea ranked no.1 in reading and math and no.3 in science yet I would never use their education system as the method for achievement - and I like the country. South Korea has some of the highest suicide rates in the world. Stress is a major problem in their nation. Their style of teaching is rote memorization (one of the reasons that Korean airliner bumped into the San Francisco runway). Seoul is as close to pure capitalism as I have seen; driven by money with few worker rights. Their idea of achievement is to attend a prestigious university and generally enter stereotypical professions (i.e. doctor, lawyer, scientist). South Korea places no emphasis on the trades. IMO grades in school are no determination of success or failure. Success is a product of who the person is. By the time we reach high school we should already know enough reading, math and sciences to function in the world. High school should be a place where industry and education work hand in hand to help each student start down the path to achieving their goals. It should be like an internship program or mentorship program between industry and education. For students who don't know what their goals (dreams) are it should be helping them work in their areas of interest so they can make a goal. High school should not end at age 18 but should end based on the needs of the student. It doesn't help society to send an unprepared and under educated student into the work force. University should not be the emphasis of high school, it should be emphasised that it is a tool for those who need it. PISA should not be used as a standard for what other nations should be doing. It is a poor example IMO. Teachers need to open classrooms to open discussion and a style of teaching that encourages thinking outside the box. We need creative thinkers not robots who learned via rote memorization and facts. For example history should be debated and discussed not stated in terms of facts (i.e. most American history taught in the schools is bullshit).
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heacock I'm totally agree with all your elaborations! ☺️👍🏻
E.X.A.C.T.L.Y.!!!!!!
i am from vietnam and i am going study abroad at finland next years. i love finland. you are a beautiful country and friendly :)
I'm so proud of my school which is in this video ;D
The value and self worth are the most important things in this profession and indeed Finland is doing great in this sector.
I wish, it becomes universal.
Wow nicely said all....For a start i am not a white or a Finnish guy.I am an African...if i was to grade Finland when it comes to education I would put them among the top 5 in the world because i school in Finland and i can tell you their educational system is damn great...And Language was never a problem for me because they treat every one equally..no matter your color or nationality....
Many of these schools that were shown in this bit were swedish schools in finland. Finland as many might not know has two official languages that are : Finnish and Swedish, thats why there are a "group" of people who are called the swedish talking finns.
Finnish schools are exactly the same no differences.
I am a public school teacher here in the 🇵🇭 and I must say, we are overworked yet underpaid because our government are prioritizing the armed forces. 😭😢
Ww 3 start soon..
Usa-Middle east.
So....
In Finland it seems they use scientific research to inform their teaching methodology and school system. They recruit the best teachers and pay them accordingly. They leave the teachers to get on with their jobs
Everywhere else they use political ideology to inform their systems They value their teachers by how cheap they get them. Politicians and anyone else with an agenda constantly interfere with the teaching.
Finnish language is also very transparent, having very few words with non-Finnish root, and using very rich derivational morphology. That means, Finns can guess the meaning of most words they have never heard of before, while for English-speaking pupils unknown words are more or less perfectly opaque. So when Finnish 8 year old 1st grader can with ease read newspaper articles and understand most of it, I hear over 10% of 16 year old US citizens would struggle, presented with that same task.
having a pure language that purists dream of is entirely not fascist. look at this. its a great methodology. keeping it simple and clear. with a curriculum that helps the language. so literacy in primary education really helps them very well to understand science maths at an early age.
As a student, I felt that the educational system in the U.S.A concentrated too much on math, science, and reading/writing and little concern on artistic work or hand on training. As a student, I learned to memorize notes and key answers for exam or quiz. I realized that much of what I've learned in class will never be used in the real world. I have to self teach myself and other student on subject that I didn't quite understand. It's almost like the blinds are leading the blind.
Everything in life comes down to maths and science.
1.The no of hrs you work. If maths not imp ,why keep an account of time?
2. The food you eat is in portions. If maths is not imp ( in this case volume)why do you stop eating when stomach is full? Continue eating.
3 The amt of oxygen you breathe . If maths not imp, science not imp breathe CO2.
4. If maths ,science not imp why worry about Covid 19?
There are so many examples.
Finland is SUPERNATION - BEST in EVERYTHING ... E V E R Y T H I N G ( and most beautiful nature is here too) ! ! ! !
Yeah man, best in alcoholism and sleeping until afternoon?
@@Fl4ngerr What?
@@staffanvonmulqwist4311 Finland is nowhere near the best in everything (as a Finn I'm saying this).
If you seriously do say Finland is being positively the best at something, then you either have never went abroad or you have a short-term memory.
I like how did American representative put the teacher and administrator relation before the students. did anybody notice that?
education has a long history in many countries . the answer is : freedom to learn freedom to teach.
Can we learn from Finland ?
Finland performs much better than England and the USA in the PISA test. In this international test the students have to apply their knowledge in novel situations. It seems that their average pupils achieve comparatively higher scores than those in other countries. Does this reflect Government directives, the headteacher, the teachers, teaching methods, continual assessment, revision methods or parental involvement?
At the Government level ...
The Government in Finland introduced a law so that all children have a 15 minute break after 45 minutes of teaching. This prevents cognitive overload for pupils and teachers. It also provides time for the teacher to speak to misbehaving pupils and achieve good discipline.
The Government decided on mixed ability classes. (Mixed ability has recently been shown in UCL randomised trials to be more effective than streaming or setting). In Finland bright pupils are paired with less able pupils and each has to describe what has been learned in the lesson. This is peer to peer assessment and pupils soon realise what they have and have not learned.
The Government sets out a curriculum that is short with only a few pages of text per subject. The curriculum is not overwhelming, leaving time in the year for teachers to plan local activities and innovate.
The Government approves science and mathematics textbooks that have been tried and tested in schools. Textbooks have teacher guides and these provide lesson plans for teachers for every term. They also contain extension material, printouts and projects. Textbooks are supplemented with free internet material.
The Government directs examination boards to set questions that assess the understanding of concepts and their application in novel situations rather than just factual recall. The application of knowledge (problem solving) is a higher order of skill in Blooms Taxonomy of Learning. There is a minimum reliance on multiple choice questions as these are viewed as only useful for testing factual recall.
The Government believes that SATs testing is unnecessary as continual assessment provides sufficient data about pupil attainment.
The Government is now reviewing the curriculum to periodically introduce topics that require strategies which are needed in modern industry, such as working together and creativity.
At the Headteacher level...
The school day is organised with one hour periods and each period includes a lesson of 45 minutes and a 15 minute break. There are also morning and afternoon 15 minute coffee breaks and a lunch hour.
The Head meets each teacher in an interview every term to discuss class progress, any problems with individual pupils, innovations, new topics etc.
There are no heads of department and one teacher is given responsibility for ordering equipment, materials etc.
The Head is responsible for standards and these are checked yearly by the government who give an examination to a few pupils in a year group. School inspectors can visit if results are unsatisfactory.
Poorly performing pupils or gifted pupils are interviewed with their parents, the class teacher, a school psychologist and a social worker present.
The Head provides an academic route or a vocational route for pupils aged 16.
The Head insists that good discipline is introduced quickly in the school and is effective at an early age. Head teachers believe that learning cannot occur if minor disruption occurs in lessons.
At the teacher level...
Teachers enjoy their jobs and few leave teaching.
Some teachers are only qualified to teach pupils between the ages of 7 to 13. They teach all subjects in a mixed ability class with less than 20 pupils. They keep the same class from year to year and soon know the pupils that need extra support.
Other teachers are subject specialists and teach pupils aged 13+
Teachers on exchange visits comment that lessons are not drastically different to those in their countries and comment that Finnish teachers are not ‘super teachers’.
A common lesson format is a period of teacher talk followed by the pupil reading the textbook and answering some factual recall and problem solving questions. A short test is then used to monitor learning in the lesson. In summary, passive learning is followed by active learning and a short test gives immediate feedback. Teacher talk probably accounts for 15 minutes in the lesson.
Teachers are trained to monitor learning effectively with short tests in every lesson and termly tests. The results for the latter are used for grades (these are entered into a national database). This is continual assessment.
Teachers keep a portfolio of children’s work and comment on this frequently. New targets are set after a discussion with the pupil.
Teachers set a short homework every week and pupils mark their own homework in class as the teacher goes through the marking scheme. Pupils have to comment on their results and results are entered into the national database. If no homework is done this is also recorded.
Teachers use textbooks and the lesson plans in the teacher guides. They feel there is no need to ‘reinvent the wheel’.
Teachers are expected to design a new topic for lessons at the end of the year and show their creativity to the Headteacher.
Teachers have 2 hours of professional development per week to discuss lessons, learning and new ideas.
At the pupil level...
Pupils enter the classroom and take off their shoes.
Pupils listen, read their textbook and answer questions, write summaries and are tested in every lesson.
Pupils keep a portfolio of work and are self critical about their own work using a proforma.
Pupils say they appreciate the regular 15 minute breaks every hour.
Pupils work well and quietly in class for 45 minutes.
Pupils conduct peer to peer tests as a revision process. A bright pupil is paired with a less able pupil. Each pupil has to explain a concept to the other pupil and they persist until mastery is achieved.
Older pupils do projects over a three week period using school computers. Some homework involves using the internet for research. As the project progresses other pupils can comment on it. Pupils are required to give presentations to describe their completed projects to other class members who ask questions and offer constructive criticism.
Parents...
Parents receive a form at the end of term which provides the grade for the end of term tests. They have to sign this and return it to the school.
Parents attend parents’ evenings.
Parents are satisfied that homework is brief (sometimes only 30 minutes per week) and are pleased that their children have time to have hobbies and interests.
Some parents do not like the idea of peer to peer revision as it seems that the bright pupil is being used as a teacher. They want their bright pupils to do extra studies. Schools believe that this method benefits both abilities.
Parents can see test results on a national database.
Parents can be contacted by teachers using mobile phone messages if progress is slow or behaviour is poor.
Parents buy school workbooks and textbooks for upper secondary pupils. These are used daily in class and parents can see that their children are getting a broad, balanced and relevant curriculum.
Parents pay for examination entries.
Parents do not make sandwiches for their children. Pupils receive a free meal at school and they are not allowed off site to buy junk food.
Parents pay for extra curricular activities after school. Music is very popular.
Comment...
It would seem that there are many similarities and differences between Finnish education and that of other countries. There is certainly no one silver bullet for success. Finnish success has been achieved by implementing a complex well organised system. The major factors are:-
1. At the classroom level the most obvious factor is the typical lesson plan which is composed of a short teacher talk phase (15 mins), an active learning phase using textbook questions to enhance learning and a short test phase to provide feedback to the learner and the teacher.
2. The use of continuous assessment is another important factor in that Finnish pupils are regularly made accountable for their own learning through lesson tests, termly tests, portfolios and self assessment proformas.
3. Finnish examination questions have a standard format. Copious text is initially provided before questions and this must be carefully read and analysed by pupils. Questions then require the pupil to apply the concepts they know to the novel context. Teachers incorporate this type of question into their lessons as examination preparation and problem solving becomes a regular learning activity for pupils. Such questions are similar to PISA questions.
The three factors above could easily be implemented in any country that is considering curriculum change. I believe that they are fundamental to the success of Finland in PISA.
Further reading...
‘Cleverlands’ by Lucy Crehan on Kindle.
Lucy Crehan was a science teacher who taught in several countries to understand their success. She wrote a book called ‘Cleverlands’ and there is a long chapter on the Finnish educational system.
Great stuff from Finland. Congratulations from Korea.
i wish i Finland citizens
Gr8 english m8
its not the best place for like non white people you can come across alot of racism but the system is alright
its not the best place for like non white people you can come across alot of racism but the system is alright
its not the best place for like non white people you can come across alot of racism but the system is alright
its not the best place for like non white people you can come across alot of racism but the system is alright
In some areas of Helsingfors(Helsinki) there are quite a lot of immigrants from Somalia etc. Even those schools seems to be working just fine.
Finland doesn't have a big problem with immigrants, if you look at the official statistics, it's not high...
Bus in kids from Compton, Baltimore, Chicago, and Detroit, then let's see how great these teachers are. Then let's see how they stack up to the rest.
This is beautiful. They know what education is and what it can actually do!!!
excellent series of videos. Would be nice to hear from Students and parents in future segments
You certainly sound like someone who's been to Finland. Congratulations, you cracked the code, you know everything about the country.
Finland school is great some Montagnards indigenous I know they live there , their children very talented they can speak 3 languages.
I live in finland n i really do appreciate the education system over here....:) Most of all it is free...
I am Finnish and spent sometime in America where my kids went to preschool and 2nd grade...I remember having a right panic attack everyday I went to pick my kids up at 15.00 I knew I had a tough job ahead of me...over 2 hours a day per kid so I spent my whole evening doing homework...Lucky I was able to afford it. I hired privately one of the teachers to spend hours and do homework and private tuition with my kids. We finally came back to Finland and I never saw homework...only once in a while kids finish their homework before they come home
I worked in HR in compensation, I will not tell you where because I still work for the same company only I moved back to America.
Finland is not a multicultural society. It does not have the challenges of a country like UK or USA. One thing is that it looks like Finland funds it education correctly, places great status on teaching profession and insisting on a masters degree for teaching reinforces that.
Finland has one of the world's best educational systems. Sometimes even topping other countries that have a COMPLETELY different educational system like South Korea and Singapore. From what I've seen in this and other videos, I like this, especially since it seems like a very relaxed and happy atmosphere, and they really encourage creativity...unlike most Asian schools or even most other schools for that matter
oh you can implement it just fine, there are just few things you need to do and get rid of first, and none of them are easy to pull off. step 1) first principle of learning is not a competition, it's teamwork. plan everything on that.
@Nanix1991 Finland spends less money per pupil than America does. It's not just about being able to afford something, it's what you do with your resources, how wisely you use (spend) them and what your priorities are.
1930's: America in depression, 1960's: America rules the Western world 1990's: America in decline. 2016: EUROPE back on top
+slappy0077 America profited from world war 2 when europe and asia was in ruin. But asia and europe is catching up now.
I go to this school. It's a normal public school, therefore the teaching is virtually identical to any other public school in the country. It was quite recently built (just over a decade old) so it does look a bit better than your average Finnish school.
you had to understand that education is very important I know every criticism from all sides but you have to understand that education Education and education is very very important for a society You have to understand this
Look at their culture , there you have the answer!!!
Ozzie Balan What do you mean?
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ah okay, thanks for clearing that up :)
That is very true
except that in Denmark where they use a traditional system, their results are much worse, so its not the society, its the teaching methods.
james hancock it's partly society as well, since e.g. in finland teachers are respected and students are taught to respect them as authorities, and that won't happen if society doesn't agree with irt. :) (I'm using finland as example because that's what I have experience of)
In California the union thinks half the reason we build schools is to employ teachers.
try teaching without 'teachers'.....
Their Politicians are highly educated and that is why they are the best
Amazing, it's sad watching this from a third world country, no wonder why they have so high quality life, schools in Mexico are pathetic.
Gracias, then about the same as in the USA creo...
Same here, as a chilean i'll hope go to Finland one day and live there, so good country, nordics are the best in europe and in entire world.
@@wenacompa2777 as a Finn myself I'd rather choose somewhere in developed Asia.
i agree by Your opinions ، reform in educational system is a long-term work
Ok, what about a Dr and Professor?
Dr Pasi Sahlberg, Director General of the Organisation for International Mobility and Cooperation (in the Ministry of Education) in Helsinki.
There are many videos where he explains the differences in Finlands and UK/US educations and why the UK/US are a failure.
In Finland they pay less for each student than in US, but get way better results. The results in US could be that good too, it they would drop the belif competition is what is needed in every area.
actually in my opinion it's so damn good we don't have private schools and education. that's the reason. EVERYONE has a chance to get education, get work etc. even if you are poor or a rich.
Finland and Singapore have the best educational systems.
I'm amazed by this, just when I thought that there was no chance at all for our generation to outstand I think we finally hit the melting point where it all can change ... and it's the education, overall education has the power to move societies faster than we thought, In South America we struggle with the education, and there's very poor guidance from teachers as well as the educational center itself to motivate children to develop their best skills. I hope that Finland can help us South American societies to shape our children's grounds, truly because we're a continent that raises up very fast in population and we feel the weight of that on a third world country overall if there's not a good education.
Some of my teachers in High School here in the United States "I get paid whether you learn or not". There is so many things wrong with our system.
Same here in Finland.
Yep, i guess you are right about that. School bullying is so universal phenomena. I was just sad and angry at the same time for those families who lost their beloved one during these finnish school shooting! Vengeance stinks but bullying do the same thing. I hope we as a humankind can grow our empathy level and become better , caring humans in the future!!
I think the results from the PISA survey talks for itself. What country are you from?
And the person who "suggested" this, was not even really a politician. She was just a employee of one politician in True Finns party.
AMAZING! Thanks for posting ☺️
how much is the tax in finland ?
Oh, that is why it is the top five in international comparison?
I do think that the Greece education system are quite different.
Go Finland!
It doesn't equate success but it helps alot to create quality of education with only people from the higher level of society. It's easier to get a ten when you start with every student at zero then if you start with students ranging between zero and minus eight.
This is a great video! Thank you!
Not to mention the adult education.. which is free,too. I studied in the free of charge evening classes and have had a beautiful own business after that (20 years).. so what do we do wrong??
Awesome -- we need to bring the finnish system to the US -- unfortunately our capitalist system is forcing more charter schools at the moment -- dismantling our public education in the name of the free market..
***** Mr Babak, thank you for your comment. I was very surprised when I read that 7% of the USA High School grads can't find the USA on a world map.So change is needed.
Tuula Westra thank yOU! yes - we need a system that emphasizes collective well being rather than individualistc profit!
The problem with your argument is that these diversified schools you speak of are in poor areas. Give poor black and Hispanic kids rich wealthy environments and within a generation they will be the Sam as whites. It's true that to an extent white have a better work ethic and culture I admit that but that can be quickly learned. It's hard to learn when you are surrounded by poverty drugs crime and the legacy of slavery
You know the women in the video is the head of the US teachers union and would probably support that nationally. Here in CA, the state will pay for you to get a masters if you have been teaching for more than five years. Most charter schools are achieve horrible results. And I have no idea what Ricradian competitive advantage has to do with education and learning.
NASEEM IS BACK Has everything to do with slavery.
The "suggestion" also included armbands for native Finns. And there were many clues that the writing was not meant to be interpreted with face value, like the fact that the armbands for people from USA, would have a picture of hamburger.
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All education systems are a product of the culture within which they operate. The only way to have a system the same as Finland's is to become Finland. Of course, good ideas can be borrowed. Requiring teachers to have master's degrees is probably unimportant in itself - some of my worst teachers were the best qualified - but it does reflect the value given to teachers and education by society, and I'd say this value is probably the single most important factor.
@Robert420L
Do you have to pay significant taxes for the educational system?
If we had a system for recruiting & educating future teacher like we do with military officers, we could be No 1 in the world. If you want to be an officer in the military, we have military academies & ROTC programs that will put you through college.You just have to give back a specific amount of time to the military in return. We then also have programs that will send officers through Master programs. We would dominate if we put as much effort into creating teachers as we do military officers.
I don't know what you implying. But all students in finland goes to the same school, "zero" and "minus eight" alike.
What IS important is that all get help, and you get that in small classes. Not in classes with 30-40 students, like in Sweden.
We used to have good results, like Finland. Then we started to get bigger classes and lower salery for teachers.
The current gov. thinks that national tests will help, but it hasn't. Teachers need to test often, but not national tests. That stress student
But do they actualy finnish school?
I think almost every country could learn from Finland because they think about the children and how to actually ingage them in their academics,
Instead of just being like:
TEACHER: Here, we have to memorise all these individuals in Medival England and how they impacted medicine.
MY BRAIN: BISH, wtf?
JUST WHHHHY?
Why?
That's it we're going to Finald, no doubt about it!
@iTzMattz I guess Canada's isn't too bad. We're near the top in the rankings! But the Finnish system really is extremely interesting. They barely study yet they rank so high...I guess it's because the children in every class is so FEW.
By helping bad teachers, what do you mean? Because here in the US, a bad teacher is probably something completely different. Typically, its someone who abuses tenure. Someone who has worked for x amount of years, and is now nearly impossible to fire without causing problems with the AFT. These teachers typically come in and check ebay and facebook all day while assigning bookwork, and getting a stuffy salary.
Thats what I was talking about...
I am a High School student in the United states and watching this makes me feel like I'm dumb!
Bullshit, I don't trouble myself to write in every video about Finnish schools, only in some that eventually reach me. But I do reply to comments and take the time to tell my colleagues about my experiences in Finland, good and bad. More about the bad than the good.
"their program" as in the education system in Finland or in Florida?
After watching this I got a funny feeling. A feeling being proud to went to school in Finland.
This is amazing. I only wish that the education in United States was exactly like this! My education was lacking in many ways. I wish I was educated in Finland.
Great piece, AFT!
which country or countries do you think would be better than Finland, or at least have a better education system
Of course we know, it's in Minnesota (Google Finland Minnesotta and you'll see)
Im from Finland and those who want to move here come its very nice in here lot's of nature fresh air not so hot summers kinda cold winters and ofc some english shows like How i met your mother,Umbelievable Dr.Pol and many others