I found riding both to be really beneficial. The extra traction from a FS to progress on and the efficiency and firm drive of the hardtail as I progress to bigger and harder things. They really work hand in hand in my opinion.
You have found a niche steve with technical climbing as most youtubers want to bomb downhill . What you do is to much work and it takes fitness to accomplish for most . I would think this is the most difficult part of mountain biking and its amazing to see what you and your buddy can do and maybe a bit more for you because you do it on a hardtail . Well done .
We've ridden the constellation side and loved it, but this was our first time on the east side of the lake. I can't wait to have a local like you show me around
Great job on all that tech.....I don't think I recall seeing Cody dab that much, puts it into perspective how tough those features are when someone with Cody's skillset is working it.
@@hardtailparty I applaud your tenacity, I need to session spots like you do, but I don't. Usually time is of the essence, so I just try to remember what I did wrong so I can correct next time I ride.
Got my Marin San Quentin 3 few weeks ago. Can't wait to take that monster hardtail here. I've taken it to a couple double black trails already, but mostly technical downhills. Nothing against FS, they're beasts, but just something about hardtails to me just can't get enough. True monsters and have really taught me how to really ride and watch wth I do.
Man that was a lot tough technical climbing and downhill. So beautiful terrain, and the size of the boulders. I know that I could not do such tough climbing, maybe 40 years ago. Thanks for the great video. Party hard in the mountains and be safe. Cody is a beast on those climbs.
Great seeing you continue to push through the tech even after spinning-out in the kitty litter. It's a timely reminder of what's possible now that I have new tires on the bikes. Inspirational setting there.
I love my hardtail and I think you might be the right one to ask. Would you be willing to do a video of how to ride a hardtail smoother on really chattery trails and rocks?
glad to see you're enjoying the MicroShift drivetrain. Bought my son a San Quentin 24 and it comes with a 9speed MicroShift and I was a little worried when I hadn't heard too much about it. Thanks for the review!
Great vid! Crazy hard terrain. Steve's advice on a bike is highly recommended! He helped me understand I already have a great frame for the trails in my area and my type of riding, saving me $$$ on going out and buying new.
So jealous of you guys as our riding season is starting to wind down here. Do you have any plans on reviewing the new 2021 Honzo (non-ESD). It has some geo updates this year and seems like a good bike/kit at the $1.5k price point. I do not see any videos/reviews for them yet...
yeah, I've been looking into the honzo too, and I haven't come across any reviews on the cheapest model. I've been comparing the honzo to the growler and vtius sentier, all three bikes are really similar, the vitus has better specs and is cheaper, but the honzo and growler 40 have better geo. I'm waiting for his review on the growler 40
@@mitco011 I have the Honzo on order at my LBS but won't have it until January at the earliest. The Vitus is cheaper on paper but with shipping and duties to Canada I don't think it will be. The Growler is a little too agro for me in Ontario... I also heard it feels very heavy/sluggish. The Honzo looks way cooler too... can't wait to get it. You should thumbs-up my top comment and maybe he will see ;)
I was actually laughing out loud when you kept saying "not clipped in...still not clipped in" on that descent. It seems like that always happens at the worst possible time haha. You and Cody are incredible riders.
I understand that unattached feeling being sketchy... I tried flats on my first bike, stuck at it for 6 months and hated it. Slipping off was spoiling my rising. Since then, clipless all the time, and not much tempted to change.
On technical downs like this I'm much more comfortable on flat pedals. If your feet are slipping on flat pedals, something is wrong. I definitely recommend a good sticky set of five tens (any of the freerider series) and some good grippy pedals like chesters or one-up composite platforms. The right gear makes + good technique makes an incredible difference with flat pedals. The best riders i know ride flats.
Nice video , I’m running the banshee with 175 cranks and fox 36 150mm and be getting pedal strikes like crazy , probably gna go to 170 cranks in the near future
10:30 There is no 'easy' way up that feature but if you go around the giant rock clockwise there is an incredibly tough climbing challenge to the top about 90 degrees from where you are exiting.
Dumb question, but would one want them to be out of metal or plastic? Of course metal is more durable, but I would think this could also eventually damage the frame if it transfers all that force onto it, instead of just the bash guard. I feel a plastic one would be more flexible and absorb the impacts.
@@hardtailparty Hopefully you will get one , because I am thinking getting one of those bad boys . But firstly would really like to hear your opinion.☺️
If you do have the meet up at the Dells, PLEASE make it on a weekend so I can join! :>) I may not be able to ride the trails you do but I can a least hold the camera for someone. I live 2 miles from this place and ride Iron King and Peavine trails often. I'm still working on the black diamond trails around the lake and getting better but still have a long ways to go.
Sweet riding spot but I was just wondering if you still ran cushcore and what are your thoughts on a long-term review of it I'm just curious if you still use them or not
Wouldn’t + tires have been beneficial here? Seems like most wheels on test recently have been 29” and that may be the obvious reason I don’t recall much on the + side of late.
Awesome trail and great climbing! Love how you guys session features all the time and don't shy away from showing your mistakes! Do you ever think of adapting your hard tail to be more like a Trials Bike? If so, what would you change?
Dang Steve I’d say that trail is borderline trials corse. Great cleans for both of you 💪💪🥳🥳 Better get JL out there for the next ride 😏 Thanks for sharing ☝️
Whenever I start to think I need a full suspension bike, I'm going to come back to these videos and save myself $3-4 grand. Well done.
I found riding both to be really beneficial. The extra traction from a FS to progress on and the efficiency and firm drive of the hardtail as I progress to bigger and harder things. They really work hand in hand in my opinion.
I sold all mine full squish and just ride a banshee paradox with fox 36 150mm fork, and am faster then When I was on my transition sentinel
I wish getting a hardtail instead of a full sus would save me 3 grand, that would be amazing. 😅
Greer Mtb if I only had one bike it would be a hardtail.
@@techjeeper8800 ya loving the banshee so far , I’ll get a full squish in a few years
You have found a niche steve with technical climbing as most youtubers want to bomb downhill . What you do is to much work and it takes fitness to accomplish for most . I would think this is the most difficult part of mountain biking and its amazing to see what you and your buddy can do and maybe a bit more for you because you do it on a hardtail . Well done .
Couldn’t agree more. HP is the medicine for UA-cams addiction to “Sending it” videos.
Thanks guys. Tricky climbs are just as much fun as a fast downhill for me.
Men, awsome trails, and awsome skills.
Cant wait to show you more of the Dells!
We've ridden the constellation side and loved it, but this was our first time on the east side of the lake. I can't wait to have a local like you show me around
Great job on all that tech.....I don't think I recall seeing Cody dab that much, puts it into perspective how tough those features are when someone with Cody's skillset is working it.
100% plus we were riding it blind. I can't wait to get to know the lines here.
@@hardtailparty I applaud your tenacity, I need to session spots like you do, but I don't. Usually time is of the essence, so I just try to remember what I did wrong so I can correct next time I ride.
5:30 "What was that 1.2 miles we just did? Felt like seven." Ha! Beautiful day for you guys yesterday.
The Dells feel like this for me every time I ride there. “It doesn’t get any easier, you just get faster.”
You lads were motoring through those climbs. Nicely done!
Got my Marin San Quentin 3 few weeks ago. Can't wait to take that monster hardtail here. I've taken it to a couple double black trails already, but mostly technical downhills. Nothing against FS, they're beasts, but just something about hardtails to me just can't get enough. True monsters and have really taught me how to really ride and watch wth I do.
your friend climbs so well. he should be called ''goaty''
Can only imagine how steep those climbs are when not viewed through a wide angle. Tough stuff! Well done!
its always a pleasure to watch you climb those almost impossible rockies and boulders.
Man that was a lot tough technical climbing and downhill. So beautiful terrain, and the size of
the boulders. I know that I could not do such tough climbing, maybe 40 years ago. Thanks for
the great video. Party hard in the mountains and be safe. Cody is a beast on those climbs.
Great seeing you continue to push through the tech even after spinning-out in the kitty litter. It's a timely reminder of what's possible now that I have new tires on the bikes. Inspirational setting there.
Nice work! That area is so much fun. Endless lines and rocks to play on!
I love my hardtail and I think you might be the right one to ask. Would you be willing to do a video of how to ride a hardtail smoother on really chattery trails and rocks?
Yes, that's been on my to do list
Love all the tech climbing! Steve and Cody rocked it.
Bro, I already told you, but your skills going up technical stuff are just next level. So are your friend's in the blue full squish. Congratulation ;)
Thanks for the kind words.
Love this video. This video make me love my hardtail xc bike even more.. Thanks man. From Malaysia
Wow you guys killed it! Awesome job guys!
Those trails look amazing
My old college. Makes me nostalgic.
Day 2 in my long recovery, hardtail party delivery of bottoms up action. Love watching the bike progress keep up the good work
Wow Cody’s bike super indigo take care guys as always you are the best inspiration to me.
glad to see you're enjoying the MicroShift drivetrain. Bought my son a San Quentin 24 and it comes with a 9speed MicroShift and I was a little worried when I hadn't heard too much about it. Thanks for the review!
Nice riding Steve and Cody!! Looked like so much fun!
Great test for the Advent X too!
Great vid! Crazy hard terrain. Steve's advice on a bike is highly recommended! He helped me understand I already have a great frame for the trails in my area and my type of riding, saving me $$$ on going out and buying new.
Impressive climbs. Those trails are crazy by the Dells! Love it.
Definitely need to hit this place up. Wow!
Wow! That's some sick technical climbing on that trail.
You guys were really earning it! Great ride
Man that paint job is just so cool on that frame 👌
Thanks, it turned out well.
So jealous of you guys as our riding season is starting to wind down here. Do you have any plans on reviewing the new 2021 Honzo (non-ESD). It has some geo updates this year and seems like a good bike/kit at the $1.5k price point. I do not see any videos/reviews for them yet...
yeah, I've been looking into the honzo too, and I haven't come across any reviews on the cheapest model. I've been comparing the honzo to the growler and vtius sentier, all three bikes are really similar, the vitus has better specs and is cheaper, but the honzo and growler 40 have better geo. I'm waiting for his review on the growler 40
@@mitco011 I have the Honzo on order at my LBS but won't have it until January at the earliest. The Vitus is cheaper on paper but with shipping and duties to Canada I don't think it will be. The Growler is a little too agro for me in Ontario... I also heard it feels very heavy/sluggish. The Honzo looks way cooler too... can't wait to get it. You should thumbs-up my top comment and maybe he will see ;)
Sick. Been meaning to try this one. Maybe next weekend.
Great job on those climbs.
My 6 year old son kept saying "good job Cody".. one day I'll take him there to prscott
That looks like a fun place to ride. I’m going to have to get up there some day.
Hi Steve, Great Content as usual! Regards from Germany!
I was actually laughing out loud when you kept saying "not clipped in...still not clipped in" on that descent. It seems like that always happens at the worst possible time haha. You and Cody are incredible riders.
I don't know how you are, but I feel much safer attached to my bike with clipless. I hate when I come unclipped and I am hitting a rough section.
I understand that unattached feeling being sketchy... I tried flats on my first bike, stuck at it for 6 months and hated it. Slipping off was spoiling my rising.
Since then, clipless all the time, and not much tempted to change.
On technical downs like this I'm much more comfortable on flat pedals. If your feet are slipping on flat pedals, something is wrong. I definitely recommend a good sticky set of five tens (any of the freerider series) and some good grippy pedals like chesters or one-up composite platforms. The right gear makes + good technique makes an incredible difference with flat pedals. The best riders i know ride flats.
yes you should do a meet up there! but try and time it for when i'm in the neighborhood :). that looks like so much fun and so challenging.
Nice video , I’m running the banshee with 175 cranks and fox 36 150mm and be getting pedal strikes like crazy , probably gna go to 170 cranks in the near future
10:30 There is no 'easy' way up that feature but if you go around the giant rock clockwise there is an incredibly tough climbing challenge to the top about 90 degrees from where you are exiting.
Well done guys that looked like a mixed bag of challenges. 👍🏻🤪
Just the way we like it.
Been there, very technical!!!
Great video. Thanks for sharing. What's the bike size Steve?
I am going to drive up and ride this, ASAP.
nice ride! I was exploring the wrong trails when I was in Prescott with my MTB
Most of prescott is gravely flow trails. This stuff is more my cup of tea.
@@hardtailparty I only found hiking trails
@@dummkompf try the mtb project or trailforks apps
Beautiful.
Holy Cow! I broke out in a sweat watching that! 😅
Have you ever thought about/done a video on handlebar selection? Which bars are you running In this video? I’m looking at the PNW range bars
I haven't found any handlebars that really blow me away. They all feel pretty similar to me.
What a great job guys! I would be scared without a bashguard.
Dumb question, but would one want them to be out of metal or plastic? Of course metal is more durable, but I would think this could also eventually damage the frame if it transfers all that force onto it, instead of just the bash guard. I feel a plastic one would be more flexible and absorb the impacts.
The dells have taken chunks out of my carbon frame [sadface]
Love the videos, would love to see a review but on the Vitus sentier 27 vr
Me too
@@hardtailparty I’m considering buying this bike to keep and upgrade for a couple years
When great engagement matters!
Great vid!! Just out of curiousity are you going to review Ribble ht 725 in near future.
I'd like to, but i haven't had any luck getting one in for review.
@@hardtailparty Hopefully you will get one , because I am thinking getting one of those bad boys . But firstly would really like to hear your opinion.☺️
@@tarikhadzizulfic8936 it's not looking promising, it maybe if enough people contact them they'll send me one for s few weeks.
Is Cody half goat? Wow great techs trail some serious skills level required for this one. I loved the video , thanks
Yes, half goat, half pro xc singlespeed champion.
@@hardtailparty I really enjoy watching the ss episodes featuring Cody. He is inspirational .
Is Cody on a 5010?
@@emointel321 yes
Luv this type of session! What's up with Cody on the full squish and a rear mech?
I know, right? He's a beast on any bike.
@@hardtailparty Total beast and it looked like you were both having a total blast.
If you do have the meet up at the Dells, PLEASE make it on a weekend so I can join! :>) I may not be able to ride the trails you do but I can a least hold the camera for someone.
I live 2 miles from this place and ride Iron King and Peavine trails often. I'm still working on the black diamond trails around the lake and getting better but still have a long ways to go.
Good to know. I post my meetups on Instagram.
Sweet riding spot but I was just wondering if you still ran cushcore and what are your thoughts on a long-term review of it I'm just curious if you still use them or not
I'm not running it st the moment.
Is Arizona good to ride in March, we are planning a westward trip for spring break.
Could be perfect , could be snowing. The nice thing is if we have bad weather up north you can go ride trails in the southern part of the state
Tenacious!
what gears you using to use for the climbs ?
1,2,3,4, and 5. Usually 3 and 4
Wouldn’t + tires have been beneficial here? Seems like most wheels on test recently have been 29” and that may be the obvious reason I don’t recall much on the + side of late.
They might have been better in s few situation, but the bb would be lower. I was running an xc tire in the rear, which wasn't helping.
Sweet slow tech... Hammerheads
What clip pedals do u ride ?
The cheapest SPDs i can find.
Awesome trail and great climbing! Love how you guys session features all the time and don't shy away from showing your mistakes! Do you ever think of adapting your hard tail to be more like a Trials Bike? If so, what would you change?
The perfect bike for these trails is the reeb redikyelous.
The UCI would frown on Cody’s socks.....
I vote Cody rides a hardtail during these rides as well.
His only hardtail is set up ss
Soooo tech!
What's The Secret to Cody & animal
I'm still trying to figure it out. Lots and lots of practice, miles, and an awesome attitude. He's been riding sedona since he was a kid.
Is the sun ever not shining there 😁 greetings from the grey uk
Its the desert, the sub always shines here. :) Its rained 5 times in the past 5 months.
@@hardtailparty you lucky buggers :-)
Don't break chain
Ill be honest, nothing about climbing up those steep rocks looks fun....but to each their own
Dang Steve I’d say that trail is borderline trials corse. Great cleans for both of you 💪💪🥳🥳 Better get JL out there for the next ride 😏
Thanks for sharing ☝️