One question pleaaase ! I have an Apollo that should receive signal from SS6. Should I use Line mode (with Jack) or Mic mode (with XLR) ? People says that Mic mode is dangerous in case you activate by mistake the +48 volts mic mode. What are your thoughts please ?
CIOKS is amazing, I powered from one DC-7, a Microcosm, both LVX and MercuryX, Mood ii and a GFI Synesthesia, and it only hit the 40% load mark, best power supply on the planet
Great video. For those interested in powering OTO pedals, the Cioks DC-7 works via an #8800 parallel adapter flex cable (you'll need two outlets for each pedal), followed by a #2050 or #2030 standard red type 2 flex cable - both outlets on the DC-7 set to 15V. Poul Ciok personally helped me set this up. I love that product.
I've been using a paintbrush on my audio mixers, drum machines and synths since the 80's, when I was touring on 'the big stage' and working in the studio - always handy and helpful.........and wow, that Cioks looks really helpful.......the other pieces of gear are wonderful options too........thanks....VERY helpful upload!
Thanks for introducing me to the SS-6. Here's a few of my favorite 'go to's'. - industrial strength velcro (my favorite thing in the world). If you want to try it, i recommend a layer of painter's tape between the surface and the velcro. This will keep paint, wood, etc, from peeling off, and it helps with taking the velcro off much easier. - big fan brush for skinny/tight places, and dust cloth (swiffers) - Strymon Zuma pedal power brick - Electro-Harmonix Tri Parallel Mixer pedal. My pedals are run serial from patch bays, so this pedal comes in handy when i want a parallel sound. Runs on my main mixer aux out. - Finally, my patch bays. If i can turn it on, and it has I/Os... I patch it. Hey Oora, sorry for an off-topic question, but how are you liking the Push 3 as an alternative to the Octatrack? I enjoy my Push 3, but have been thinking about getting the Octa., so just wondering how you feel about playing/performing music with both devices (are they similar/different/is one easier/more creative). If you have the time, even a minimal short answer is good enough for me. Thanks man! Also, have you thought about releasing your Superbooth 24 performance as an EP or something?
@@vvcv__00 Push 3 is slowly getting there. Octatrack is also a complicated device, with some great performance possibilities (with presets by Ezbot) but outdated fx quality. Only mono sample 3 octaves replay. Push 3 is worth it alone as an MPE instrument or synth expander or final fx chain with unlimited recording.
Bastyl Bestie stereo mixer - I put everything through it! Nice saturation, but the feedback knob makes it special! Makes everything sound thicker and chunky.
woah, that's lieteraly my recent wishlist, execpt for the Datanoise one, a thing I was looking for recently, but somehow didn't manage to find: probably I should update my list! so, coming to the tools: I'll never get tired of recomending chopsticks! A simple tool so useful to excite and hit instruments, prepare guitars, keeping things in place, you name it
I just wish they addressed the long standing bugs in the MRCC. It’s 90% complete, but that missing or poorly implemented functionality will drive you crazy sometimes. I don’t know how a company like this stays in business without listening to its customers.
While the Franklin is certainly an a good tool if it suits the problem, I can't see myself restricting the possibility to play and hear multiple of the devices connected to it at once.
I don't understand why the Franklin Audio system costs €313 plus taxes when you can achieve the same functionality with a basic 19" patchbay for €79, which also offers more versatility. It would be helpful if you could suggest some simpler alternatives for those who aren't as tech-savvy.
My workflow has completely changed since I got the TX-6 by Teenage Engineering. It has increased my productivity significantly because of its simplicity, small practical size, and no-nonsense connectivity. If I want to record a quick demo, I plug it into my iPhone and record with the Dictaphone app. When I want to record more seriously, I connect it to my laptop, and it simply works without any configuration.
@OoraMusic do you know when the Model 1 specific DSUB Octave will be available? I would love something like that for mine - ideally both an input and output ADAT link in a DSUB connector sized box.
About the Datanoise Octawave: As far as I understand , if you want to use it to send CV output for modular synth u need more modules.. it doesn't send voltage +/- 5v or 0-10v this is a quote from the manufacture site: Control Voltage (CV) Output The OctaWave has DC-coupled outputs which can be used to send control voltage to Modular Synthesizers. The voltage outputs is around +/- 3.063V DC rail-to-rail. You can offset the voltage in your eurorack system to achieve around 5 octaves tracking or use an attenuverter to scale it to +/- 5v or 0-10v.
@@RetrospektiveAudio I wish they make a +/- 10V stand alone version (I don't use Eurorack.. there are more alternative for Eurorack like expert sleepers)
I was considering getting the Franklin SS-6 but (apart from being German and finding it offensive when something has "SS" in its name) Franklin doesn't have any retailers outside of Australia, so it's very hard and expensive to get. Also I have everything patched and connected into a 16-stereo channel summing mixer all the time (Speck X.sum, 1U 😍) so I would use the Franklin just to route some rarely used synths into my Blackbox sampler. I want to play my main synths simultanously live, so the Franklin is really not for them!
Hey thanks for the must have tips :) Have you tried using the DC7 to power multiple Moog desktop synths? (e.g. Labyrinth, DFAM, M32 & SUB) it would be great to have just one power source and remove the power bricks.
It runs 500mA into 12v (what the M32, SubH! and DFAM use, I assume Laby does too but I don’t have one). All the little moogs ship with 600mA plugs but the devices don’t use anywhere near that much. It’s listed in their manuals what the draw is, usually like 200mA or something. Check the manual and as long as the draw is below 500mA you can plug one into every port on the DC7. I have plugged mine into the 12v ports on a DC10 and daisy chained em and no troubles at all. Cioks supplies are top notch.
Yes. I get that turning a knob might seem easier though. But a collection of any size is so much better served with a patchbay and a couple nice DI boxes. But you know every person’s creative practice is their own and if they want to turn a knob instead of patch a cable and they’re ok with the limitations of the Franklin workflow then that’s ok.
I just got a CIOKs before watching this. You forgot to mention the power usage meter on the CIOks - It will tell you if you are drawing too much current - specially if you plug-in an expansion. You can plug-in 2 expansions in series but it all depends on the current draw of all you have plugged in.
@@OoraMusic thank you for the video! the other two things are really useful! I was wondering also about how the new Arturia AudioFuse X8 Out would compare in terms of conversion quality and size to the Datanoise for using with Push 3. I just ordered a Push 3 and I am waiting for the delivery.
I really like the Datanoise but would be great to have the same for inputs. When you mentioned a new product by them i thought that was gonna be it. Do you know why they don't do it? And with the Franklin, maybe it's a stupid question, but you can have all your 6 inputs playing simultaneously right? Or you can only have them one by one using the selector?
3:58 - you said you power a cascadia with the DC7, which is why I bought it. But I should have checked the specs, Cascadia needs 15V 1A minimum, and DC7 outputs 15V 400 mA. Bah.
hello! im sorry to hear that, I used a parallel cable that sums ampere, BUT as I said in the video I DONT recommend use the dc7 over the instrument power unit.
Everyone. Please. Power bricks, even the best ones, are not one stop solution. I hate cables just as the next audio guy, but while DC7 IS great bank and does everything for the pedals and small devices, DO NOT play with plugging your 1.5 k drum machine into it.
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One question pleaaase ! I have an Apollo that should receive signal from SS6. Should I use Line mode (with Jack) or Mic mode (with XLR) ? People says that Mic mode is dangerous in case you activate by mistake the +48 volts mic mode. What are your thoughts please ?
CIOKS is amazing, I powered from one DC-7, a Microcosm, both LVX and MercuryX, Mood ii and a GFI Synesthesia, and it only hit the 40% load mark, best power supply on the planet
agreed
Great video. For those interested in powering OTO pedals, the Cioks DC-7 works via an #8800 parallel adapter flex cable (you'll need two outlets for each pedal), followed by a #2050 or #2030 standard red type 2 flex cable - both outlets on the DC-7 set to 15V. Poul Ciok personally helped me set this up. I love that product.
thanks for the info!
SS-6 really is a game changer.
definitely useful
I've been using a paintbrush on my audio mixers, drum machines and synths since the 80's, when I was touring on 'the big stage' and working in the studio - always handy and helpful.........and wow, that Cioks looks really helpful.......the other pieces of gear are wonderful options too........thanks....VERY helpful upload!
thanks for watching !
Thanks for introducing me to the SS-6.
Here's a few of my favorite 'go to's'.
- industrial strength velcro (my favorite thing in the world). If you want to try it, i recommend a layer of painter's tape between the surface and the velcro. This will keep paint, wood, etc, from peeling off, and it helps with taking the velcro off much easier.
- big fan brush for skinny/tight places, and dust cloth (swiffers)
- Strymon Zuma pedal power brick
- Electro-Harmonix Tri Parallel Mixer pedal. My pedals are run serial from patch bays, so this pedal comes in handy when i want a parallel sound. Runs on my main mixer aux out.
- Finally, my patch bays. If i can turn it on, and it has I/Os... I patch it.
Hey Oora, sorry for an off-topic question, but how are you liking the Push 3 as an alternative to the Octatrack? I enjoy my Push 3, but have been thinking about getting the Octa., so just wondering how you feel about playing/performing music with both devices (are they similar/different/is one easier/more creative). If you have the time, even a minimal short answer is good enough for me. Thanks man!
Also, have you thought about releasing your Superbooth 24 performance as an EP or something?
@@vvcv__00 Push 3 is slowly getting there. Octatrack is also a complicated device, with some great performance possibilities (with presets by Ezbot) but outdated fx quality. Only mono sample 3 octaves replay. Push 3 is worth it alone as an MPE instrument or synth expander or final fx chain with unlimited recording.
Bastyl Bestie stereo mixer - I put everything through it! Nice saturation, but the feedback knob makes it special! Makes everything sound thicker and chunky.
i heard a lot of good things about it
The Octawave with D-SUB will be awesome ! 🤓
yes they need to release this!!!
Have an input and output version would be ideal
Omg that DC7 is a game changer - thanks for the heads up!!!!
It really is!
woah, that's lieteraly my recent wishlist, execpt for the Datanoise one, a thing I was looking for recently, but somehow didn't manage to find: probably I should update my list!
so, coming to the tools: I'll never get tired of recomending chopsticks! A simple tool so useful to excite and hit instruments, prepare guitars, keeping things in place, you name it
great advice!
Franklin audio needs to make the ss-6 in rack format. That would be amazing!
will tell them
@@OoraMusic Yes, or would be killer to have one a bit bigger- 8 or 12 stereo inputs would be ideal for big synth/drum machine/outboard gear rigs.
@@halcyo Yep!
Maybe a patchbay (like the Samson S-Patch +) would do the trick?
you can probably do it for like 27 euros, but im sure they will consider it for around 517 euros
Wonderful and informative. Thank you.
Glad it was helpful!
Great video important stuff people often don't think about.. Look forward to your Videos on the ZAHL😃 Enjoy your vacation.
Thank you! 😃i
The MRCC is something that I will not be without. Makes MIDI simple.
gonna check
I came to say this - my MRCC is *invaluable* to my setup, and if it broke I would purchase another one that day without hesitation
the MRCC is great for midi connection
I just wish they addressed the long standing bugs in the MRCC. It’s 90% complete, but that missing or poorly implemented functionality will drive you crazy sometimes. I don’t know how a company like this stays in business without listening to its customers.
@@eddraper Mio XL?
I believe that Arturia released a similar product as the Octawave by Datanoise. The Arturia audiofuse x8 out. I use the Cioks DC5. Awesome.
The OctaWave just needs USB C power, so it can run straight from any power adaptor or directly from the Push 3.
Nice tips. Enjoy your vacation sir.
Thanks! 😃
Nice video, thanks:)) have a nice holiday
Thank you!
While the Franklin is certainly an a good tool if it suits the problem, I can't see myself restricting the possibility to play and hear multiple of the devices connected to it at once.
I don't understand why the Franklin Audio system costs €313 plus taxes when you can achieve the same functionality with a basic 19" patchbay for €79, which also offers more versatility. It would be helpful if you could suggest some simpler alternatives for those who aren't as tech-savvy.
My workflow has completely changed since I got the TX-6 by Teenage Engineering. It has increased my productivity significantly because of its simplicity, small practical size, and no-nonsense connectivity. If I want to record a quick demo, I plug it into my iPhone and record with the Dictaphone app. When I want to record more seriously, I connect it to my laptop, and it simply works without any configuration.
it is indeed a great tool
A version of the Datanoise Octawave that worked in the opposite direction would be a great solution for modular -> ADAT soundcard...
Checkout the BoredBrain optx 2!
i think it is i the work
I have the DC4 and it has USB power in which is really handy. I can run a few pedals off a power bank or whatever other random adapter I have.
true!
@OoraMusic do you know when the Model 1 specific DSUB Octave will be available? I would love something like that for mine - ideally both an input and output ADAT link in a DSUB connector sized box.
About the Datanoise Octawave:
As far as I understand , if you want to use it to send CV output for modular synth u need more modules.. it doesn't send voltage +/- 5v or 0-10v
this is a quote from the manufacture site:
Control Voltage (CV) Output
The OctaWave has DC-coupled outputs which can be used to send control voltage to Modular Synthesizers. The voltage outputs is around +/- 3.063V DC rail-to-rail. You can offset the voltage in your eurorack system to achieve around 5 octaves tracking or use an attenuverter to scale it to +/- 5v or 0-10v.
The desktop version sends +/- 3V (6V peak to peak) output, the Eurorack Version has outputs with +/- 10V.
@@RetrospektiveAudio I wish they make a +/- 10V stand alone version (I don't use Eurorack.. there are more alternative for Eurorack like expert sleepers)
The Datanoise dSub Adaptor looks amazing, is it doing balanced?
Phicorda on the back
Pumped!!!
:)
Any news when or if the dsub connector is being released
Datanoise Octawave : Expert Sleepers ES-3 does the same thing if I'm not mistaken
yes i use that in the modular field
grande fede. sta week vieni a farti un tuffo! senno´ti becco a cecina!
sono a cecina ahah
@@OoraMusic oii dovrei esserci ad agosto due giorni, allora ci si becca la!
Blokas MidiHub and CME WIDI for wireless midi. Looking to get a Matrix mixer.
i want to try the midihub !
@@OoraMusicdefinitely a keeper ! Its very useful in multiple ways
I was considering getting the Franklin SS-6 but (apart from being German and finding it offensive when something has "SS" in its name) Franklin doesn't have any retailers outside of Australia, so it's very hard and expensive to get. Also I have everything patched and connected into a 16-stereo channel summing mixer all the time (Speck X.sum, 1U 😍) so I would use the Franklin just to route some rarely used synths into my Blackbox sampler. I want to play my main synths simultanously live, so the Franklin is really not for them!
Imagine how much other people get offended when something have SS in its name
Hey thanks for the must have tips :) Have you tried using the DC7 to power multiple Moog desktop synths? (e.g. Labyrinth, DFAM, M32 & SUB) it would be great to have just one power source and remove the power bricks.
i powered the labitynth and the godfather, didnt try any other combinations
It runs 500mA into 12v (what the M32, SubH! and DFAM use, I assume Laby does too but I don’t have one). All the little moogs ship with 600mA plugs but the devices don’t use anywhere near that much. It’s listed in their manuals what the draw is, usually like 200mA or something. Check the manual and as long as the draw is below 500mA you can plug one into every port on the DC7. I have plugged mine into the 12v ports on a DC10 and daisy chained em and no troubles at all. Cioks supplies are top notch.
Cioks DC7 > Dreadbox Nymphes a good Idea? Regarding the noisy USB - Power.
yes i use that combination with nomissues
@@OoraMusic Very good to know, thanks a lot!
Isn't one patchbay capable of a lot more than the Franklin SS-6? It seems like a patchbay with only two outputs
Yes. I get that turning a knob might seem easier though. But a collection of any size is so much better served with a patchbay and a couple nice DI boxes. But you know every person’s creative practice is their own and if they want to turn a knob instead of patch a cable and they’re ok with the limitations of the Franklin workflow then that’s ok.
I just got a CIOKs before watching this. You forgot to mention the power usage meter on the CIOks - It will tell you if you are drawing too much current - specially if you plug-in an expansion. You can plug-in 2 expansions in series but it all depends on the current draw of all you have plugged in.
thanks for pointing out that
@@OoraMusic thank you for the video! the other two things are really useful! I was wondering also about how the new Arturia AudioFuse X8 Out would compare in terms of conversion quality and size to the Datanoise for using with Push 3. I just ordered a Push 3 and I am waiting for the delivery.
I really like the Datanoise but would be great to have the same for inputs. When you mentioned a new product by them i thought that was gonna be it. Do you know why they don't do it?
And with the Franklin, maybe it's a stupid question, but you can have all your 6 inputs playing simultaneously right? Or you can only have them one by one using the selector?
datanoise is developing new stuff, so i guess we need some patience.
It is work in progress, it just takes time to do it once and properly :)
@@RetrospektiveAudio that's great news, thank you!! :)
❤
3:58 - you said you power a cascadia with the DC7, which is why I bought it. But I should have checked the specs, Cascadia needs 15V 1A minimum, and DC7 outputs 15V 400 mA. Bah.
hello! im sorry to hear that, I used a parallel cable that sums ampere, BUT as I said in the video I DONT recommend use the dc7 over the instrument power unit.
@@OoraMusic Understood.
315 euros for the switch, this world is really getting crazy 🤣
i hear you.
Where can I buy the blower?😂
amazon ahah
@@OoraMusic 😂❤️🔥
Everyone. Please. Power bricks, even the best ones, are not one stop solution. I hate cables just as the next audio guy, but while DC7 IS great bank and does everything for the pedals and small devices, DO NOT play with plugging your 1.5 k drum machine into it.
while i never had a single issue, i recommend always to use the original power brick.
I doubt 1.5k drum machine can run on 1000mA.
Retrokits RK-006!
good one
Awsome products and informative video, but no one MUST have these products. A bit clickbatey title
Thanks for letting me know
franklin is hardly a "must have". a line module and a mixer would be much better.
obviously its my opinion, its ok to disagree mate
This guy is an infomercial for Gear Acquisition Syndrome
you got me kid!
trutru but the Cioks is worth its weight in gold. When you start linking a lot of pedals it can power a lot with an incredibly small amount of space.
None of that would help me.
sorry to hear that
Studio must have #1: A razor and a haircut!
dont need that to feel comfortable with myself. i bet you do tho.