I respectfully disagree with the last one. I believe that Shadowsight was a great character and med cat, and that the drama with Ashfur and him was very interesting and unusual. I also think that the fact that he could not communicate with Starclan was cool and unique, and that it was fun to read about a character who was being called to by darkness, but was able to overcome it and keep his good heart.
I like him, mainly in the last book. He was a little bit dramatic for me, although I can appreciate his story, his part with Ashfur was really good. But to be honest, I was more interested in Bristlefrost and Rootspring's relationship, though I will never again read book 6 (not the ending at least)
Alderheart is a cat you can actually relate to. All the other protagonists, just worry about the plot, get a love, are almost overconfident and done. Alderheart, on the other hand, will often doubt himself, such as becoming an apprentice. I mean, we all do, don't we?
Jayfeather is extremely popular but I love how sarcastic he is. I also LOVE yellowfang- she's just perfect Edit: also, CLEARLY akira is the best medicine cat. They can literally cure anything with one jayburger and a cookie.
I know right like yellowing and hard-earned are my two fans bc there personality and everything but like I have diggers of them and polished and pins and shirts and EVERYTHING I'm obsessed❤❤❤❤
shhh Stormfur was on a journey so he obviously wasn't a part of RiverClan at the time he was POV. I was definitely thinking that and didn't just forget him
@@Webbylightplays2005 In the case of Super Editions, Flametail's perspective still came before Yellowfang, Tallstar, or Crookedstar. SkyClan's Destiny was the only Super Edition with a non ThunderClan perspective to release before his chapters.
Poor Willowshine. She deserved so much more. I would like a novella on Featherwhisker and Goosefeather’s relationship. It must’ve been hard for the guy to watch his Clanmates badmouth his mentor in front of him and for said mentor’s mental state deteriorate.
Featherwhisker was really nice I'd like to see more of him but then again I'd have to deal with all those characters being thanos snapped for plot convince. I still can't get over Sunstar. Warriors is so lazy with how it writes off deaths. The end of Bluestar's Prophecy was just like ' and half of then people I've ever known died of sicknesss'..like it was just an average event. Imagine them doing that in the modern books. Just everyone death in one sentence between books lol
I DID NOT like Willowshine. I don't know why, but she always irritated me, especially in broken code. Its a good thing she died, tbh, I agree she really did get in the way.
I think you should def go into more detail about Puddleshine, I’m planning a whole map around it actually! Just hear me out. First of all, as you mentioned in the video, Puddleshine never wanted to be a medicine cat, but was forced to become one because Shadowclan needed a medicine cat. Then Darktail comes along. We know that Puddleshine’s siblings and parents were all eager to join under Darktail’s leadership, and we also know that the only reason Puddleshine remained with the rouges was because he’d sworn to protect his clan mates. He never wanted to join the Kin. Then during his time there, his parents died and 2/3 of his siblings died, the siblings(Birchbark and Lioneye), being directly killed by Darktail. There’s also the fact that from Violetshine’s perspective, Pinenose was not a very loving mother. True, we were seeing it from Violetshines POV, but still. Also, like mentioned, he was turned into kind of a mean cat in Darkness Within, only to drive Shadowsights plot. Plus we know he had some uncertainty that he would be a good medicine cat, which makes me feel kind of bad for him, he’s trying his best. This is just what I noticed but I think he has a lot more going on than meets the eye and deserves to be recognised!
Puddleshine is also a little prodigy medicine cat. He may have been pushed into the role by the leader, but he picked up on the skills remarkably quickly and worked very well under pressure.
@@Vomitperson true, but he was the first genuine sweet male character we got. Besides jayfeather all the other make characters were "rah wanna be warrior and beat stuff up ooga booga" and alderheart was just a nice change. Jayfeather was still an asshole sometimes but alderheart was genuinley nice.
Great tier list I agree with most! The only one that suprised me was Barkface's placement, I always felt that Barkface's was such a genuinely nice and trustworthy cat especially towards tallstar in his special edition, I was so sad when he died, I personally would've put him higher! Let's give Akira some love for this tierlist aswell as the other videos, she deserves it!
I thought the exact same thing as you while watching this video, i just recently read tallstars revenge so him being a pretty great medicine cat is still fresh in my mind lol.
This exactly, his friendship with Tallstar really stood out to me, especially because Tallstar had so few healthy or positive relationships in Windclan before he left. Also I find it quite sad how Barkface ended up outliving Tallstar despite being older. His character was always very solid to me.
The thing with Cinderpelt is that in Exile in ShadowClan Volepaw’s leg got mauled by rats and won’t ever work again. Cinderpelt’s case is almost the same, yet Volepaw got to be a warrior again. Nightpelt(star) told Volepaw when Volepaw refused to hunt “Your leg won’t stop you”. We see him bringing back prey as well so he is capable. Warriors logic there.
Nooo I love poor Runningnose :( he was so nice in yellowfangs secret! I also like Sagewhisker a lot; I don't know why. I love Shadowsight :( it's so interesting that he's connected to the dark. He was quiet and lonely and sad and I liked that. I would personally put Fidgetflake in F tier. They botched him so bad in Sky, he had 0 personality, I was hoping he would be "fidgety" and odd. Alderheart got super boring after the first book
I feel like shadowsight had so much stuff going around him, but the execution was poor at best. the idea of a medicine cat turning evil could've been very interesting imo. he was so devastated after being manipulated into "killing" bramblestar and fooled by ashfur he considered staying in the dark forest. the writers really put so much pressure on the "good cats turning evil" thing, yet we really only saw that with ashfur. I know shadowsight was supposed to be an anxious guy, but come on. that would've been so much better giving the context
not to mention all of the other cats who treated him poorly, most notably lionblaze. I can imagine shadowsight growing so furious of all of the cats around him who kept doubting him and putting blame he'd finally snap and do something awful. he kinda already gave up on everything in the 3rd book of tbc and he was still under the influence of ashfur, so that'd make sense
Tbh I kinda liked seeing a character get beat and battered over and over, (imposter nearly killing him, accidentally killing bramble, constantly being dismissed by the clans, his full medicine status being revoked, his clan mates boy trusting him, being kept away prisoner in his own clan, lionblaze intimidating him, goes to dark Forrest and is nearly killed, then it is revealed that he does not have a connection to starclan) and still manage to be good at heart.
I kind of always liked Littlecloud because I found it interesting that he started as a warrior and was inspired by Cinderpelt helping him to become a medicine cat. He might not have much going on but I think that was a really nice bit of personality they gave him.
Aw man, I love Barkface 😅 His character and relationship with Tall in Tallstar’s Revenge is just really interesting and relatable to me. Actually, I really liked the trio of Bark, Shrew and Tall, even though the brothers didn’t go with Tall on his climatic journey. Obviously, Jake sort of steals the show in that story, but I don’t think they’ve ever made characters quite like Bark and his brother ever since and I like to think that he and Tall remained very close throughout their long lives as leader and medicine cat.
I love and adore Cinderpelt and find it a little annoying when people talk about how her injury wouldn’t be super debilitating for a cat. Like, these cats act like people and an injury like that would be debilitating for a person. I also like how she becomes disabled in a sudden and jarring way and has to learn to grapple with it and what that means. She has to accept that there are things that she can’t do anymore while finding things that she can do. The fact that she felt like a burden when she first became disabled is super relatable and it’s nice seeing her regain confidence and live happily despite having her whole world changed in an instant. Cinderpelt’s story is something that is super relatable for me as someone who has recently became disabled. Just one day my body stopped working the way it should and I have never been able to recover. I have a lot of pain and difficulty walking as well as many other symptoms and dropped out of college to reevaluate my life and how my health affects it. I didn’t feel comfortable moving to live on my own when sometimes I can’t stand up on my own. I guess, for me, it’s similar to when people say that Briarlight is poor disability representation because she “doesn’t do anything”. The entire thing about being disabled is that there are limitations. That there are things that you can’t do and that’s okay. You might not be able to do or become what you originally wanted for yourself because of your disability but that isn’t the end of the world and you can live a happy fulfilling life. I guess I’m just kinda annoyed by the sentiment I see a lot in the Warriors Fandom that it is “poor disability representation” to have a character be debilitated by their disability. Now, Warriors doesn’t have great disability representation especially with the first one we see being Snowkit who’s disability was treated like a tragedy and then they killed him. But, it’s a little upsetting when people talk about how Briarlight and Cinderpelt didn’t become warriors when they probably could have. Brightheart, after becoming disabled, decided to continue being a warrior and work around her disability and that’s great! Cinderpelt, after becoming disabled, decided that she couldn’t be a warrior and found something else that would be easier for her to do with her disability and that’s great! Briarlight decided to not be a warrior or a medicine cat and instead find things to do around camp and that’s great!
@@BPJD2004 I feel like a lot of people are downplaying Cinderpelt's injury. Her leg was CRUSHED BY A CAR! Also she wasn't forced to be a medicine cat. She just liked to help Yellowfang and Yellowfang asked her to be her apprentice.
@elizabethwaterman IKR!?!? I don't know why people do that! And yes, they did not force her to, however, from what she says in the book, I feel like she felt she had to, and technically Blue star even said she would never be a warrior. BECAUSE HER LEG WAS CHRUSHED BY A CAR! FOR STARCLANS SAKE PEOPLE!
@@BPJD2004like others said, he foot got crushed by a car. ALSO, Deadfoot was born with a bad leg. He doesn't know anything else other than having a bad leg. Cinderpelt, on the other hand, was a warrior apprentice and got her leg crushed! And she wasnt forced into being a med cat, she liked helping yolofang!
mudfur was interesting in only one aspect, that he became a medicine cat apprentice after being a fully trained warrior. i think his choice was extremely interesting and cool, but other than that i forget about him. i just think, oh yeah, mudfur. that guy. also barkface is one of my favorite characters, i just like his vibes. he’s always been so kind and supportive and levelheaded. he was one of my favorite parts of tallstars revenge.
Her character could definitely have been A or even S if not for how she was in Starclan. Yellowfang used to be one of my favorites. But I only really liked her when she was alive.
I've only read to the start of act 3 so other than being Firestar's other mum (Bluestar is is the other) she's been coming to be cryptic with and mock Jaypaw as the only Starclan cat agro enough to tone match him.
Tbh, I hate that they made Cinderpelt a medicine cat. DeadFoot, a windclanner born with a twisted front paw, was a amazing warrior despite his paw and he even became deputy. However, giving Cinderpelt a second life, makes her special and outstanding from any other cat.
The only medicine cat I don't like is hawkheart he should have ended up in the dark forest he killed moonflower yes ik moonflower went after their herbs but hawkheart knocked her across the clearing stunning her he didn't need to kill her Hawkheart lunges at her, hurling her off her paws. He springs onto the she-cat and sinks her teeth into the warrior's neck. Moonflower manages to struggle free and smacks Hawkheart's muzzle, but the tom shrugs her off as if it was a fly. He grabs Moonflower by the throat and throws her across the grass, killing her. It says on hawkhearts Wikipedia page that he flung her across the clearing by her throat no good cat would attack like that
@@BPJD2004i mean moonflower was experienced yes it was wrong for her to go after their supplies but hawkheart didn't have to kill her moonflower was already defeated it even says in bluestars se hawkheart flung moonflower across the clearing then launched across the clearing onto moonflowers throat and what's with the condescending tone moonflower was 4 years old at the time of her death how is that not experienced
You did Barkface so dirty. In Tallstar’s Revenge he’s genuinely such a kind and caring friend (especially when Tallstar was lacking positive relationships in his clan). Yeah, he’s not crazy important or anything but he was always well characterized.
Resident Featherwhisker lover here, he's (in my humble yet very correct opinion) one of the sweetest without being annoying characters and also one of the few with a sense of humor, also he's very fluffy-just look at the official art of him- so I therefore must love him.
@@Spottedstorm27 that sounds sick lol, she's been my fav ever since I found out about the series (I watched a lot of spoilers before actually reading the books sadly)
I also respectfully disagree with the last one. I think Shadowsight's pretty interesting. Even though he's a nervous medicine cat character like Alderheart and Frostpaw, his anxiety is caused by something different (aside from feeling as though the fate of their respective Clan and/or all of the Clans as a whole rests on their shoulders). From what I recall, Alderheart's anxiety stems mostly from the pressure of his family's legacy. Some of Frostpaw's anxiety can be traced back to being forced into being a medicine cat apprentice, and much of that anxiety (and the pressure of saving RiverClan) is lifted when she becomes a warrior apprentice. Shadowsight has been able to see terrifying things since he was a kit, and these visions were often accompanied by seizures that left him feeling weak (it's also possible that he was accidentally injured by his loved ones during his seizures due to them holding him down, which you're not supposed to do because you can cause injuries to the person having a seizure). Shadowsight was also tempted by a dark force (Ashfur), but he managed to redeem himself and use his connection with Ashfur to help the other Lights In The Mists find and defeat the villain. While the reason for his lack of a connection with StarClan is a bummer, it's kinda nice to see another medicine cat with no StarClan connection who's still at least decent at their job. However, even though I like Shadowsight a lot, I'd only give him a C rank here. From what we've seen of Shadowsight so far, he's not a great medicine cat. At least decent, yes, but I wouldn't say great (like Mothwing, Jayfeather, and Leafpool) at this time.
Something about Cinderpelt that I believe more people should take into account. You could argue, “but deadfoot was the deputy of windclan!” He was. But his foot was twisted, Cinderpelt’s leg was crushed by a rapidly moving 1 ton car. And another thing, Deadfoot’s injury was his front paw, a paw he depends on sure, but not for everything. Cinderpelt’s injury was her back leg which is the one cats use to balance themselves, leap, and jump. As a warrior you need to be balanced, you need to leap and pounce to catch your prey. And one final point, she wasn’t forced into being a medicine cat. She wouldn’t ever be warrior, its true, but what people forget is she could’ve gone to the elder’s den like Nightshade. But she didn’t. She truly enjoyed helping Yellowfang with herbs, and (if I’m remembering well) was really excited to go to mother mouth to become a medicine cat apprentice!
Imo: Kestrelflight should be bumped up one tier for how much he specifically pisses Jayfeather off more than any other MC. There's no reason for it, I love it sm.
Good video, Akira! I agreed with a lot of your ratings. Not all, but you explained your opinions quite well and I respect them! :) Also, I was thoroughly entertained
I think a lot of the medicine cats are super special in their own ways, yellowfang was such a cool concept, I wish we could’ve seen her power used more
In my opinion, on the topic of Mothwing and Shadowsight, I both agree and disagree with you. Shadowsight is one of my favorite characters in the whole series, just trying to help everyone, but to no avail because they don’t trust him. He also has the idea of constantly wanting approval, as he is Tigerstar(2)’s son and the clan believes he gets everything handed to him, despite him working hard to try and keep everybody safe. I also think Mothwing’s character was ruined for me in the broken code. As she constantly got at Shadowsight, ripping him from his role that he’d been working his whole life towards. Though she had a reason to do so, Shadowsight had been manipulated into thinking Ashfur was StarClan from a young age, and once again, took the chance to prove himself by saving Bramblestar. I adore Mothwing in every other arc and book, but the way she acted in the broken code really shoved me the wrong way.
Right now, I am on the second arc of warrior cats, but I really like how spotted leaf was the needed love interest for Fireheart yeah sure she didn’t get that much screen time but I still really like her and again with the love interest for Fireheart a main character having a love interest for another character character that either dies or ends up getting with someone else I just really like that concept sometimes
I love runningnose. He's a sweet cat who watched his best friend and littermate fall to be a terrible cat and have such horrid intent in the end. Brokenstar and him were buddies and it's rare to see that dynamic in warrior cats. I'm sad there was such little of him featured in the books.
I’m sorry but read yellowfangs secrets they were not friends, and runningkit mostly just did not participate in bullying him after being scolded by yellowfang but his littermates continued to.
I think I’m the only person in the warrior cats fandom…. to… not…. Like….. Mothwing o.o I’ve just never been interested in her and what she did to Shadowsight in the broken code really lowered my likeness toward her
moth flight was probably the best way they could've made medicine cats exist (she's got so much depth and is relatable) but the no kits rule was executed poorly
I respectfully diagree with Willowshine and Safewhisker. She was not only there because of the need of an actual medicine cat. She was a great cat for the plot. Sagewhisker was also a caring cat only wanting the best for the clan. She cared for Yellowfang a lot and apologizes to Yellowfang for the trouble she costed her after joining StarClan in the epilogue.
I actually like mudfur. His decision to want to heal and not fight was inspiring and unique. He was a good father to Leopardstar and he was a good mentor to Mothwing in my opinion.
love the video< btw can you do a video on the new updated warriors guid because i got it at barns and nobles today and there are so manny mistakes, for example there are manny spelling mistakes: "he rise of scorg" also it said that rock< yes rock the underground cranky old cat had a mentor who was LEAFSTAR! idk if this was just a strange copy r something but it would be cool if you could make a video on it< bur not pressure really lmao, i know the books are expensive TwT
Moth Flight's Vision is my favorite Super Edition, but her decision to make that rule about medicine cats not being able to have a mate or kits is the stupidest one in the Warrior Code.
i actually really do like Spotredleaf, she was a comfort character when i was a kid so i’m a bit more biased. the whole Firestar x Spottedleaf retcon was so unnecessary though.
my main disagreement for this video is shadowsight ngl, if alderheart gets a tier for being anxious then shadowsight should not be in f for "not being unique"
Alderheart came first so he gets a lot of credit for that. And I feel like Alderheart has more character beyond just being anxious than Shadowsight does. And Shadowsight's anxiousness was used more to work Ashfur into the plot than it was used to make Shadowsight interesting as a character. Of course you're welcome to disagree, just wanted to explain myself.
@@BrightGuardianAkira i get it, anxious wasn't ever used as a trait other than ravenpaw before alderheart and shadowsight (i havent read up to frostpaw yet) and now it feels like its being overused. i just think that shadowsight shouldn't get as much hate as he does
Not a bad tier list. It looks good and everyone has their own opinions. You should do leaders next to make it more interesting. Everyone has their own favorite leaders. You don't have to do all of them, but that's up to you.
I think one of the few things that makes Barkface stand out is that he is (I believe) the second longest-lived cat after Mistystar (He is older than Tallstar and made it all the way through The Power of Three). Even if he didn't do much, he was kind of a staple of the series. I also enjoyed that he chose to be a medicine cat, and was supportive of Talltail in his Super Edition.
Honestly, you reminding me that RunningNose existed made me pit of the blue, and it made me think that: WHAT WERE THE MORTEHRS THINKING ABOUT RUNNINGWIND AND RUNNINGNOSE LIKE “and you, your name shall be RunningKit!” Like 👁👄👁
I hate how Mothing has been used this arc. She of all cats should be advocating for the clan to solve things themselves instead of relying on Starclan to pick a leader for them. They should not have been pressuring a literal child, they should have worked it out amongst themselves. Why do you need your ancestors to handhold you? But nope, they didn't go that route, and she's apparently okay with Podlight just taking over.
I haven't read most of warrior cats but i wish more people read it and say its not for kids cause there is lots of things that are gross or sad but other than that i love it
There is a character who wanted to be a medicine cat but they were forced to be warrior? I don't remember, but I think would be more interesting than "cat wants to be a warrior but disability and Starclan said no"
@@elizabethwaterman7793 yeah, but I think is different because she understood that being a medicine cat wasn't for her and decided to become a warrior. I'm talking of a cat wanting to become a medicine cat because, for example they don't like violence and prefers helping by healing their clanmates, but because of harsh times, they are forced to train as a warrior
7:21 I argue this a lot, but featherwhisker is one of my favorite bluestar’s prophecy characters. he was put up to a lot of responsibility, leading ThunderClan medicinally through Riverclan+ThunderClan battles, etc etc while having a slack-off-crazy mentor (still love goose a lot tho!). he’s also just a overly sweet cat, who feels less judge mental then most cats. he helps bluekit and snowkit not get themselves into wacky trouble. he was just a kind and lighthearted cat. although he may not be the most interesting, I really want a book from featherwhisker with his POV to show his perspective and stress, while growing to hurdle these challenges.
He also sat through leopardfoots year long birth while his mentor slacked off. The way he died was heroic too. When thunderclan had greencough he refused to rest and died from it. I was supposed he didn't get more book time.
@@YaraSmith-dy9yl seriously! he’s awesome! I wish he’d get a novella or even a super edition since I feel like he’ll really show what it’s like to be under pressure in dire situations! gotta love him!
I respectfully disagree with the last one. I believe that Shadowsight was a great character and med cat, and that the drama with Ashfur and him was very interesting and unusual. I also think that the fact that he could not communicate with Starclan was cool and unique, and that it was fun to read about a character who was being called to by darkness, but was able to overcome it and keep his good heart.
I agree.
I agree, shadowsight is byfar on of my favorite warrior cat characters and medicine cat.
Same, Shadowsight is my favorite in the series.
@@PaleFishButNotSameeeee
I like him, mainly in the last book. He was a little bit dramatic for me, although I can appreciate his story, his part with Ashfur was really good. But to be honest, I was more interested in Bristlefrost and Rootspring's relationship, though I will never again read book 6 (not the ending at least)
Akira: I appreciate Flametail for being the first non-ThunderClan perspective in the clans
Stormfur and Feathertail: 👁️👄👁️
Flametail was awesome!
@@JustKittenAround225 And massively overhated.
@@klltx2001 Fr
Ikr, people always forget that Feathertail was even a main characterrr
@@alt-888because she has like two chapters
Alderheart is a cat you can actually relate to. All the other protagonists, just worry about the plot, get a love, are almost overconfident and done. Alderheart, on the other hand, will often doubt himself, such as becoming an apprentice. I mean, we all do, don't we?
Jayfeather is extremely popular but I love how sarcastic he is. I also LOVE yellowfang- she's just perfect
Edit: also, CLEARLY akira is the best medicine cat. They can literally cure anything with one jayburger and a cookie.
I know right like yellowing and hard-earned are my two fans bc there personality and everything but like I have diggers of them and polished and pins and shirts and EVERYTHING I'm obsessed❤❤❤❤
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Bro yellowfang and jayfeather are S teir ALL THE WAY
Akira : 'Fire alone can save our clan.' Name a more iconic line!
Jaypaw ; *Im here to heal you. If you want sympathy, go to the nursery.*
“Flametail is the first non-ThunderClan POV cat” Stormfur from Moonrise: Am I a joke to you?!
shhh Stormfur was on a journey so he obviously wasn't a part of RiverClan at the time he was POV. I was definitely thinking that and didn't just forget him
Bro you totally forgot
@@BrightGuardianAkira Prologues and Epilogues should count too
@@BrightGuardianAkira PLUS Super Editions
@@Webbylightplays2005 In the case of Super Editions, Flametail's perspective still came before Yellowfang, Tallstar, or Crookedstar. SkyClan's Destiny was the only Super Edition with a non ThunderClan perspective to release before his chapters.
Poor Willowshine. She deserved so much more.
I would like a novella on Featherwhisker and Goosefeather’s relationship. It must’ve been hard for the guy to watch his Clanmates badmouth his mentor in front of him and for said mentor’s mental state deteriorate.
Yeah, was sobbing when she was put in F
Featherwhisker was really nice I'd like to see more of him but then again I'd have to deal with all those characters being thanos snapped for plot convince. I still can't get over Sunstar. Warriors is so lazy with how it writes off deaths. The end of Bluestar's Prophecy was just like ' and half of then people I've ever known died of sicknesss'..like it was just an average event. Imagine them doing that in the modern books. Just everyone death in one sentence between books lol
I DID NOT like Willowshine. I don't know why, but she always irritated me, especially in broken code. Its a good thing she died, tbh, I agree she really did get in the way.
@Finnsnow NO KIDDING 😂😂😂
Agree honestly I would have rather we had that then riverstar’s book honestly riverstar didn’t even deserve it
I think you should def go into more detail about Puddleshine, I’m planning a whole map around it actually! Just hear me out.
First of all, as you mentioned in the video, Puddleshine never wanted to be a medicine cat, but was forced to become one because Shadowclan needed a medicine cat. Then Darktail comes along. We know that Puddleshine’s siblings and parents were all eager to join under Darktail’s leadership, and we also know that the only reason Puddleshine remained with the rouges was because he’d sworn to protect his clan mates. He never wanted to join the Kin. Then during his time there, his parents died and 2/3 of his siblings died, the siblings(Birchbark and Lioneye), being directly killed by Darktail.
There’s also the fact that from Violetshine’s perspective, Pinenose was not a very loving mother. True, we were seeing it from Violetshines POV, but still. Also, like mentioned, he was turned into kind of a mean cat in Darkness Within, only to drive Shadowsights plot. Plus we know he had some uncertainty that he would be a good medicine cat, which makes me feel kind of bad for him, he’s trying his best.
This is just what I noticed but I think he has a lot more going on than meets the eye and deserves to be recognised!
Definitely gonna join!
Omg id love to join!
Puddleshine is also a little prodigy medicine cat. He may have been pushed into the role by the leader, but he picked up on the skills remarkably quickly and worked very well under pressure.
@@mathnskating I completely agree! I love him
I wanna join! he's my fav medicine cat
I love alderheart so much. Hes so sweet and deserves more booktime
Agreed, Alderheart is one of my favorite medicine cats, and I love how Frostpaw depicts him and Jayfeather in Shadow, its kind of funny 😂.
I think that he was good on the journey and the whole juniper claw drama but other than that he was pretty boring and just sat around
@@Vomitperson true, but he was the first genuine sweet male character we got. Besides jayfeather all the other make characters were "rah wanna be warrior and beat stuff up ooga booga" and alderheart was just a nice change. Jayfeather was still an asshole sometimes but alderheart was genuinley nice.
*AGREED*
I agree. He's my favorite medicine cat.
Great tier list I agree with most! The only one that suprised me was Barkface's placement, I always felt that Barkface's was such a genuinely nice and trustworthy cat especially towards tallstar in his special edition, I was so sad when he died, I personally would've put him higher! Let's give Akira some love for this tierlist aswell as the other videos, she deserves it!
Ik I love barkface!
based barkface enjoyers. he was always so chill and supportive of tallstar no matter what he wanted to do
I thought the exact same thing as you while watching this video, i just recently read tallstars revenge so him being a pretty great medicine cat is still fresh in my mind lol.
I loved Barkface, especially in Tallstar’s revenge (the only book I’ve read that he appears majorly in 💀)
This exactly, his friendship with Tallstar really stood out to me, especially because Tallstar had so few healthy or positive relationships in Windclan before he left. Also I find it quite sad how Barkface ended up outliving Tallstar despite being older. His character was always very solid to me.
The thing with Cinderpelt is that in Exile in ShadowClan Volepaw’s leg got mauled by rats and won’t ever work again. Cinderpelt’s case is almost the same, yet Volepaw got to be a warrior again. Nightpelt(star) told Volepaw when Volepaw refused to hunt “Your leg won’t stop you”. We see him bringing back prey as well so he is capable. Warriors logic there.
Nooo I love poor Runningnose :( he was so nice in yellowfangs secret! I also like Sagewhisker a lot; I don't know why. I love Shadowsight :( it's so interesting that he's connected to the dark. He was quiet and lonely and sad and I liked that. I would personally put Fidgetflake in F tier. They botched him so bad in Sky, he had 0 personality, I was hoping he would be "fidgety" and odd. Alderheart got super boring after the first book
agreeeed, shadowsight is one of my faves.
Yeah, I really like Sagewhisker. Her apology to Yellowfang at the epilogue was so nice.
I’m not sure why but I imagine medicine cats just magically become British once they become a medicine apprentice
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Idk medicine cats just seem like they would all be British to me@@_lexi
Hollyleaf seemed British when she was a kit
She had to be I can’t imagine her not being British @@arachnidculler
I think all of the cats are British, aren't they? Most of the writers of the books from the UK.
I feel like shadowsight had so much stuff going around him, but the execution was poor at best. the idea of a medicine cat turning evil could've been very interesting imo. he was so devastated after being manipulated into "killing" bramblestar and fooled by ashfur he considered staying in the dark forest. the writers really put so much pressure on the "good cats turning evil" thing, yet we really only saw that with ashfur. I know shadowsight was supposed to be an anxious guy, but come on. that would've been so much better giving the context
not to mention all of the other cats who treated him poorly, most notably lionblaze. I can imagine shadowsight growing so furious of all of the cats around him who kept doubting him and putting blame he'd finally snap and do something awful. he kinda already gave up on everything in the 3rd book of tbc and he was still under the influence of ashfur, so that'd make sense
🤩 I strongly agree with you 😍
Tbh I kinda liked seeing a character get beat and battered over and over, (imposter nearly killing him, accidentally killing bramble, constantly being dismissed by the clans, his full medicine status being revoked, his clan mates boy trusting him, being kept away prisoner in his own clan, lionblaze intimidating him, goes to dark Forrest and is nearly killed, then it is revealed that he does not have a connection to starclan) and still manage to be good at heart.
that's really sad, I loved Shadowsight :( his whole thing with Ashfur was interesting to say the least.
I kind of always liked Littlecloud because I found it interesting that he started as a warrior and was inspired by Cinderpelt helping him to become a medicine cat. He might not have much going on but I think that was a really nice bit of personality they gave him.
he cool and tiny
Aw man, I love Barkface 😅 His character and relationship with Tall in Tallstar’s Revenge is just really interesting and relatable to me. Actually, I really liked the trio of Bark, Shrew and Tall, even though the brothers didn’t go with Tall on his climatic journey. Obviously, Jake sort of steals the show in that story, but I don’t think they’ve ever made characters quite like Bark and his brother ever since and I like to think that he and Tall remained very close throughout their long lives as leader and medicine cat.
I love and adore Cinderpelt and find it a little annoying when people talk about how her injury wouldn’t be super debilitating for a cat. Like, these cats act like people and an injury like that would be debilitating for a person. I also like how she becomes disabled in a sudden and jarring way and has to learn to grapple with it and what that means. She has to accept that there are things that she can’t do anymore while finding things that she can do. The fact that she felt like a burden when she first became disabled is super relatable and it’s nice seeing her regain confidence and live happily despite having her whole world changed in an instant.
Cinderpelt’s story is something that is super relatable for me as someone who has recently became disabled. Just one day my body stopped working the way it should and I have never been able to recover. I have a lot of pain and difficulty walking as well as many other symptoms and dropped out of college to reevaluate my life and how my health affects it. I didn’t feel comfortable moving to live on my own when sometimes I can’t stand up on my own.
I guess, for me, it’s similar to when people say that Briarlight is poor disability representation because she “doesn’t do anything”. The entire thing about being disabled is that there are limitations. That there are things that you can’t do and that’s okay. You might not be able to do or become what you originally wanted for yourself because of your disability but that isn’t the end of the world and you can live a happy fulfilling life.
I guess I’m just kinda annoyed by the sentiment I see a lot in the Warriors Fandom that it is “poor disability representation” to have a character be debilitated by their disability. Now, Warriors doesn’t have great disability representation especially with the first one we see being Snowkit who’s disability was treated like a tragedy and then they killed him. But, it’s a little upsetting when people talk about how Briarlight and Cinderpelt didn’t become warriors when they probably could have. Brightheart, after becoming disabled, decided to continue being a warrior and work around her disability and that’s great! Cinderpelt, after becoming disabled, decided that she couldn’t be a warrior and found something else that would be easier for her to do with her disability and that’s great! Briarlight decided to not be a warrior or a medicine cat and instead find things to do around camp and that’s great!
Aww, Cinder would have been so happy to see she was placed near her mentor! :)
Seriously tho, DEADFOOT was Windclan's deputy, and his foot didn't bother him! Barkface didn't make him be a medicine cat
@@BPJD2004 I feel like a lot of people are downplaying Cinderpelt's injury. Her leg was CRUSHED BY A CAR! Also she wasn't forced to be a medicine cat. She just liked to help Yellowfang and Yellowfang asked her to be her apprentice.
@elizabethwaterman IKR!?!?
I don't know why people do that! And yes, they did not force her to, however, from what she says in the book, I feel like she felt she had to, and technically Blue star even said she would never be a warrior. BECAUSE HER LEG WAS CHRUSHED BY A CAR! FOR STARCLANS SAKE PEOPLE!
It’s nice to see that *Two whole people* know that Cinderpelts leg was literally *CRUSHED BY A CAR THATS WAY HEAVER THAN HER PROBALY GOING 50-60 MPH*
@@BPJD2004like others said, he foot got crushed by a car. ALSO, Deadfoot was born with a bad leg. He doesn't know anything else other than having a bad leg. Cinderpelt, on the other hand, was a warrior apprentice and got her leg crushed! And she wasnt forced into being a med cat, she liked helping yolofang!
mudfur was interesting in only one aspect, that he became a medicine cat apprentice after being a fully trained warrior. i think his choice was extremely interesting and cool, but other than that i forget about him. i just think, oh yeah, mudfur. that guy.
also barkface is one of my favorite characters, i just like his vibes. he’s always been so kind and supportive and levelheaded. he was one of my favorite parts of tallstars revenge.
Oof, that dig on Shadowsight broke my fragile little heart. I love him 💔
Wow, Moonkitti and Bright Guardian making a tier list on the same day!
my heart cracked a bit when yellowfang ended up in B instead of A
Her character could definitely have been A or even S if not for how she was in Starclan. Yellowfang used to be one of my favorites. But I only really liked her when she was alive.
@@snowleopardintroversion faax
IKR She's my favorite even after OoTS
I've only read to the start of act 3 so other than being Firestar's other mum (Bluestar is is the other) she's been coming to be cryptic with and mock Jaypaw as the only Starclan cat agro enough to tone match him.
starclan yellowfang ❌
live yellowfang ✅
Tbh, I hate that they made Cinderpelt a medicine cat. DeadFoot, a windclanner born with a twisted front paw, was a amazing warrior despite his paw and he even became deputy. However, giving Cinderpelt a second life, makes her special and outstanding from any other cat.
The only medicine cat I don't like is hawkheart he should have ended up in the dark forest he killed moonflower yes ik moonflower went after their herbs but hawkheart knocked her across the clearing stunning her he didn't need to kill her
Hawkheart lunges at her, hurling her off her paws. He springs onto the she-cat and sinks her teeth into the warrior's neck. Moonflower manages to struggle free and smacks Hawkheart's muzzle, but the tom shrugs her off as if it was a fly. He grabs Moonflower by the throat and throws her across the grass, killing her.
It says on hawkhearts Wikipedia page that he flung her across the clearing by her throat no good cat would attack like that
You kidding me? I would. Besides, Moonflower shouldn't have gone for the medicine den, leave that to a more experienced warrior.
@@BPJD2004i mean moonflower was experienced yes it was wrong for her to go after their supplies but hawkheart didn't have to kill her moonflower was already defeated it even says in bluestars se hawkheart flung moonflower across the clearing then launched across the clearing onto moonflowers throat and what's with the condescending tone moonflower was 4 years old at the time of her death how is that not experienced
You did Barkface so dirty. In Tallstar’s Revenge he’s genuinely such a kind and caring friend (especially when Tallstar was lacking positive relationships in his clan). Yeah, he’s not crazy important or anything but he was always well characterized.
Resident Featherwhisker lover here, he's (in my humble yet very correct opinion) one of the sweetest without being annoying characters and also one of the few with a sense of humor, also he's very fluffy-just look at the official art of him- so I therefore must love him.
I like him too, just an all around good guy.
Unpopular opinion but:
I think SpottedLeaf deserves more love. (Havent watched the video yet but I'm just saying)
I agree so much when she died in the first book in to the wild when I was reading it I was in school I nearly cried 😢 lol
@@mariebyrne279 She gets hated on so much :(
I agree. I freaking adore Spottedleaf. I named my first main oc after, Spottedstorm!
@@Spottedstorm27 that sounds sick lol, she's been my fav ever since I found out about the series (I watched a lot of spoilers before actually reading the books sadly)
Lol no
The runningnose joke was always funny,
Yellowfang always got angry that he was made med cat yet he can’t fix his own cold!
Best joke ever.
The erins after reading this and seeing all the cats in the d tier-
Dang
We really screwed up
I would be really interested on a Barkface or Littlecloud video
I love Echosong so much she's so cool and graceful 🤧
Yeah I miss her
I also respectfully disagree with the last one. I think Shadowsight's pretty interesting. Even though he's a nervous medicine cat character like Alderheart and Frostpaw, his anxiety is caused by something different (aside from feeling as though the fate of their respective Clan and/or all of the Clans as a whole rests on their shoulders). From what I recall, Alderheart's anxiety stems mostly from the pressure of his family's legacy. Some of Frostpaw's anxiety can be traced back to being forced into being a medicine cat apprentice, and much of that anxiety (and the pressure of saving RiverClan) is lifted when she becomes a warrior apprentice. Shadowsight has been able to see terrifying things since he was a kit, and these visions were often accompanied by seizures that left him feeling weak (it's also possible that he was accidentally injured by his loved ones during his seizures due to them holding him down, which you're not supposed to do because you can cause injuries to the person having a seizure). Shadowsight was also tempted by a dark force (Ashfur), but he managed to redeem himself and use his connection with Ashfur to help the other Lights In The Mists find and defeat the villain. While the reason for his lack of a connection with StarClan is a bummer, it's kinda nice to see another medicine cat with no StarClan connection who's still at least decent at their job.
However, even though I like Shadowsight a lot, I'd only give him a C rank here. From what we've seen of Shadowsight so far, he's not a great medicine cat. At least decent, yes, but I wouldn't say great (like Mothwing, Jayfeather, and Leafpool) at this time.
Something about Cinderpelt that I believe more people should take into account. You could argue, “but deadfoot was the deputy of windclan!” He was. But his foot was twisted, Cinderpelt’s leg was crushed by a rapidly moving 1 ton car. And another thing, Deadfoot’s injury was his front paw, a paw he depends on sure, but not for everything. Cinderpelt’s injury was her back leg which is the one cats use to balance themselves, leap, and jump. As a warrior you need to be balanced, you need to leap and pounce to catch your prey. And one final point, she wasn’t forced into being a medicine cat. She wouldn’t ever be warrior, its true, but what people forget is she could’ve gone to the elder’s den like Nightshade. But she didn’t. She truly enjoyed helping Yellowfang with herbs, and (if I’m remembering well) was really excited to go to mother mouth to become a medicine cat apprentice!
Nice vidddd
My fav medicine cat is Brambleberry, she is just so kind, being better mother to Crookedkit than his real motha :0
I'm pretty sure Jayfrather would be a better mom
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@@Cricketboiii_14 then rainflower, not our girl brambleberry
@@warriorskitcat3859 Sorry i dont rlly understand wdym 😅
You have my support for life. You ranked Alderheart in the A tier. You are now one of my favorite people because of that.
I love the animation and vid quality so fun!❤
Imo: Kestrelflight should be bumped up one tier for how much he specifically pisses Jayfeather off more than any other MC. There's no reason for it, I love it sm.
I love how oblivious I was to Flametail, Especially given the fact that my oc was named Flametail until recently
Good video, Akira! I agreed with a lot of your ratings. Not all, but you explained your opinions quite well and I respect them! :) Also, I was thoroughly entertained
I think it would be interesting if there was a video about what medicine cats that aren’t from thunderclan or moth flight that deserve there own novel
1:31 I actually have "Yellowfang's Dark Secret" and I have read it multiple times. I absolutely adore Yellowfang.
I think a lot of the medicine cats are super special in their own ways, yellowfang was such a cool concept, I wish we could’ve seen her power used more
0:51 hearing bright guardian Akira say ‘shut up’ to bluestar’s prophecy had me laughing
In my opinion, on the topic of Mothwing and Shadowsight, I both agree and disagree with you. Shadowsight is one of my favorite characters in the whole series, just trying to help everyone, but to no avail because they don’t trust him. He also has the idea of constantly wanting approval, as he is Tigerstar(2)’s son and the clan believes he gets everything handed to him, despite him working hard to try and keep everybody safe.
I also think Mothwing’s character was ruined for me in the broken code. As she constantly got at Shadowsight, ripping him from his role that he’d been working his whole life towards. Though she had a reason to do so, Shadowsight had been manipulated into thinking Ashfur was StarClan from a young age, and once again, took the chance to prove himself by saving Bramblestar. I adore Mothwing in every other arc and book, but the way she acted in the broken code really shoved me the wrong way.
JayFeather is just my favorite cat in general-😳😳
respectfully disagree with yellowfang’s secret being boring because that book makes me ugly cry every time 😭😭
Right now, I am on the second arc of warrior cats, but I really like how spotted leaf was the needed love interest for Fireheart yeah sure she didn’t get that much screen time but I still really like her and again with the love interest for Fireheart a main character having a love interest for another character character that either dies or ends up getting with someone else I just really like that concept sometimes
I’m sorry but the way he drew cinderpelt’s leg
How DARE you slander my baby sagewhisker and shadowsight like this. You have made an ENEMY. A LIFELONG ENEMY, AKIRA.
I CAN’Y BEIEVE SHE DID OUR PPOKIES LIKE THIS I’M GOING TO HAVE MANIC IBS
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Name a more iconic line
ANY LINE ABOUT JAYFEATHER AND HIS STICK!!!
Those who love Cinderpelt, Jayfeather, and Brightheart❤🐈
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Love yellowfang, always my fav character
Also for RunningNose in the cats of clan: Tigerstar's nine lives, Tigerstar says " A medicine cat that can't cure his own cold. Barely even a cat!"
Heaving to translate all the names in ur head when u didn't read the series in English is so😭😭
Spottedleaf was good and so is Jayfeather. Can you make a warrior cats evil cats in a tier
I agree on Shadowsight. He didn't develop much throughout the plot and just served as a way to make Ashfur taking over Bramblestar's body make sense.
You have made a enemy today I LOVE shadow!
I love runningnose. He's a sweet cat who watched his best friend and littermate fall to be a terrible cat and have such horrid intent in the end. Brokenstar and him were buddies and it's rare to see that dynamic in warrior cats. I'm sad there was such little of him featured in the books.
I’m sorry but read yellowfangs secrets they were not friends, and runningkit mostly just did not participate in bullying him after being scolded by yellowfang but his littermates continued to.
I think I’m the only person in the warrior cats fandom…. to… not…. Like….. Mothwing o.o
I’ve just never been interested in her and what she did to Shadowsight in the broken code really lowered my likeness toward her
I’ve always found her a bit annoying lol
I think you should do a tier list ranking all main character’s
Personally love most of these! Great video I’m first huh 👀
moth flight was probably the best way they could've made medicine cats exist (she's got so much depth and is relatable) but the no kits rule was executed poorly
I respectfully diagree with Willowshine and Safewhisker. She was not only there because of the need of an actual medicine cat. She was a great cat for the plot. Sagewhisker was also a caring cat only wanting the best for the clan. She cared for Yellowfang a lot and apologizes to Yellowfang for the trouble she costed her after joining StarClan in the epilogue.
I love how she put Leafpool and Mothwing right next to each other
I actually like mudfur. His decision to want to heal and not fight was inspiring and unique. He was a good father to Leopardstar and he was a good mentor to Mothwing in my opinion.
me:yellowfang is going to get a or s, right?
akira:…
me:yellowfang is going to get a or s… right?…
love the video< btw can you do a video on the new updated warriors guid because i got it at barns and nobles today and there are so manny mistakes, for example there are manny spelling mistakes: "he rise of scorg" also it said that rock< yes rock the underground cranky old cat had a mentor who was LEAFSTAR! idk if this was just a strange copy r something but it would be cool if you could make a video on it< bur not pressure really lmao, i know the books are expensive TwT
YESSS MOTHWING IN S TIER!! this makes me so happy, mothwing is my favourite
Mothwing is my favorite too!
@@CamarasaurusLover15346 Nice!! :D
Another video! Keep going i love your videos!
I would have liked it if you put Yellowfang, Cinderpelt, Spottedleaf, and Flametail in the S spot, but we all have our own opinions 🧡
Yay, a new video!
My favorite medicine cat is Cinderpelt and when Akira placed her at the B tier list I was like: “WHAT?!”
I have always liked Runningnose ever since I’ve read Yellowfangs SE. He’s so sweet!
Moth Flight's Vision is my favorite Super Edition, but her decision to make that rule about medicine cats not being able to have a mate or kits is the stupidest one in the Warrior Code.
This!! Finally someone else who’s favourite super edition is Moth Flight’s Vision.
@@Illegal-Seagull I like the Super Editions and the novellas almost more than the main series.
@@BPJD2004 Ooh, I really like them all. There is something special about the novellas and super editions, so I totally get that. Good opinion!
i actually really do like Spotredleaf, she was a comfort character when i was a kid so i’m a bit more biased. the whole Firestar x Spottedleaf retcon was so unnecessary though.
Akira has one of the best opinions in da fandom change my mind😂
my main disagreement for this video is shadowsight ngl, if alderheart gets a tier for being anxious then shadowsight should not be in f for "not being unique"
OMG LIONTHUNDER?! HIIIIII
Alderheart came first so he gets a lot of credit for that. And I feel like Alderheart has more character beyond just being anxious than Shadowsight does. And Shadowsight's anxiousness was used more to work Ashfur into the plot than it was used to make Shadowsight interesting as a character. Of course you're welcome to disagree, just wanted to explain myself.
@@BrightGuardianAkira i get it, anxious wasn't ever used as a trait other than ravenpaw before alderheart and shadowsight (i havent read up to frostpaw yet) and now it feels like its being overused. i just think that shadowsight shouldn't get as much hate as he does
Not a bad tier list. It looks good and everyone has their own opinions. You should do leaders next to make it more interesting. Everyone has their own favorite leaders. You don't have to do all of them, but that's up to you.
I love Yellowfang SO SO MUCH!!!
i would love to see a video on all the cats that you love but are super underated
Yay, another video is out! 😊
My favourite medicine cat is always Yellowfang
I personally love Shadowsight, but given I haven’t read a place of no star and alitm so he could’ve gone downhill 🤷♀️
I love your design for puddleshine!
Yellowfang alone will save the clan
In my opinion
Goosefeather, Brambleberry, and Mudfur>>>>> every other medicine cat
I think that Amira should FOR SURE make a JayFeather video. That boy is amazing and he deserves it. (Also he is my fav character)
Thank you for putting goosefeather so high he’s my favorite character
I think one of the few things that makes Barkface stand out is that he is (I believe) the second longest-lived cat after Mistystar (He is older than Tallstar and made it all the way through The Power of Three). Even if he didn't do much, he was kind of a staple of the series. I also enjoyed that he chose to be a medicine cat, and was supportive of Talltail in his Super Edition.
Honestly, you reminding me that RunningNose existed made me pit of the blue, and it made me think that: WHAT WERE THE MORTEHRS THINKING ABOUT RUNNINGWIND AND RUNNINGNOSE LIKE “and you, your name shall be RunningKit!” Like 👁👄👁
I hate how Mothing has been used this arc. She of all cats should be advocating for the clan to solve things themselves instead of relying on Starclan to pick a leader for them. They should not have been pressuring a literal child, they should have worked it out amongst themselves. Why do you need your ancestors to handhold you? But nope, they didn't go that route, and she's apparently okay with Podlight just taking over.
I haven't read most of warrior cats but i wish more people read it and say its not for kids cause there is lots of things that are gross or sad but other than that i love it
Hmm the person who loves Mothwing dislikes Shadowsight... I see, maybe Mothwing's opinions got to you haha.
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I mean, all characters exist for plot convenience
my poor baby Yellowfang 😞😞😞😞
Cinderpelt is my favorite
Yay new video!!
There is a character who wanted to be a medicine cat but they were forced to be warrior?
I don't remember, but I think would be more interesting than "cat wants to be a warrior but disability and Starclan said no"
Hollyleaf trained as a medicine cat but had to trade places with Jayfeather in the first PoT book
@@elizabethwaterman7793 yeah, but I think is different because she understood that being a medicine cat wasn't for her and decided to become a warrior.
I'm talking of a cat wanting to become a medicine cat because, for example they don't like violence and prefers helping by healing their clanmates, but because of harsh times, they are forced to train as a warrior
"Kestrelflight just as boring as his mentor." Is the funniest thing I've heard all week
7:21 I argue this a lot, but featherwhisker is one of my favorite bluestar’s prophecy characters. he was put up to a lot of responsibility, leading ThunderClan medicinally through Riverclan+ThunderClan battles, etc etc while having a slack-off-crazy mentor (still love goose a lot tho!). he’s also just a overly sweet cat, who feels less judge mental then most cats. he helps bluekit and snowkit not get themselves into wacky trouble. he was just a kind and lighthearted cat. although he may not be the most interesting, I really want a book from featherwhisker with his POV to show his perspective and stress, while growing to hurdle these challenges.
He also sat through leopardfoots year long birth while his mentor slacked off. The way he died was heroic too. When thunderclan had greencough he refused to rest and died from it. I was supposed he didn't get more book time.
Surprised* not supposed
@@YaraSmith-dy9yl seriously! he’s awesome! I wish he’d get a novella or even a super edition since I feel like he’ll really show what it’s like to be under pressure in dire situations! gotta love him!
@@clinicallyinsanedogperson I know right!