@K Theres a few flaws I would like to point out in this video's comparison 1. Melt Ganyu requires her to be at almost point blank range, you either get 0 stacks on your initial shot + 3 stacks on your bloom or 1stack on initial and 4 on bloom, not the 3 or 4 stacks on intitial shot like in this video. 2. You did not account for the higher crit rate on the 2 different builds you ran. Higher crit rate means higher average dmg so you should at least x the % of the crit rate for the average damage. (I did a rough calculation for you and just from this video alone, Hunter's path deals roughly 10k more dmg per CA on average). You could have also changed your crit dmg circlet to crit rate instead for the amos bow so that it at least has a decent crit rate and gives a much fairer comparison. 3. Melt Ganyu can also have kazuha in the team instead of Xiangling, some even have c2 kazuha giving an additional 200 EM which in turn would complement Hunter's path passive really well which is another win. It is a bit unfair in my opinion that you directly came to a conclusion that Amos is the better option here as there should be further testing Dont get me wrong tho I really appreciate the fact that there is someone on UA-cam making a comparison video but it is still a bit too early to say that this new weapon is weaker than the old one without enough testing. I dont want to see people who really wants to max their Melt Ganyu regret in the future because they watched a few weapon comparison video and decided to not pull for a weapon that really has potential to be the best weapon for melt Ganyu.
Having over 80% crit rate on Ganyu for charge shots is very redundant. Her A1 passive boosts the crit rate by 20%, so this could have been further balanced wifh a crit damage sands. *circlet!! Not sands
melt ganyu perform incredibly well with hunter path but the performance will fall off in other criteria. solo damage or freeze damage is lower than amos. melt ganyu = hunter path all rounder ganyu = amos
Still pulling for Amos, don't wanna make my Ganyu a bennett slave, and since I rarely use melt outside Abyss, this bow will underperform for 95% of the time
@@enorilrandomland5389 Let me explain, this bow is only slightly better than Amos in a very specific situation while being worse in literally every other activity you do using Ganyu. Doesn't worth it.
@@otakufedido3009 Since we're only talking about melt ganyu, pairing her with bennet is everything but specific. And the upgrade is about 25% (from what i saw) so not very slightly either.
Even without benny burst it wouldnt be fair to compare it like this , cause hunters path has so much crit rate that its even overlaping 100% (110% with ganyu passive) , while amos has 66% (with ganyu passive). But even like this , average dmg for amos would be 73k dmg with 66% crit rate , while for hunters path it would be 83k with 10% crit rate value lost cause its overlaping , so if you could swap that in artifacts she would do even more. Hunters is just objectively better
Did you use a crit damage circlet with both builds? Also you'll want to Have Benny boy's Q in action for the attack boost. It will help Hunter's Path damage boost more than Amos build.
how its possible? hunter path grant crt and elemental dmg boost based em stat. Recently used to compare skyward harpR2 and tighnari´s weapon but the harp quite hits harder while elemental reaction the green bow gets the crown. Idk if Im regret for pulling it or if I should ve waited for ganyu banner perhaps hoping for her new weapon as used to release new weapon for tartaglia
@@sledgethatcher9011 I don't wanna risk getting the donut so I am pulling for a weapon now. If i get vanquisher, I'm just gonna slap it on Cyno and not pull ganyu and since he gets interrupted while in burst mode, he probably needs zhongli for most of his comps.
Well that's interesting 🤔.....I was sure that hunter bow will be better than Amos but only only in full EM melt build...... maybe with Bennett attack buff Hunter can be higher.....but maybe not now when I saw video.....Amos is still Numero universal better than rest...... confused bec of hunter pasiv but yeah whatever
I'll make another comparison video against perpetual mechanical array. But this time, I'll make sure the stat is somewhat similar even the weapon is different, so the result would be relevant.
@@m.khaizuran1471 well I think yours videos comparison is showing how Amos is still best overall for Ganyu but New Hunter bow is only good with melt EM build and damage is similar to Amos in melt scenario even you think bec of Crit rate and pasive Hunter will be better but no it is not
@@markeeecmarkoni2855 yes. Amos Is way Better in my opinion because It works well in every situation. I got Amos bow. No way i'll ever pull for Hunter's Path
@@fainted8230 I think I just don’t really get how it’s supposed to be better (genuine not hate) cuz you def want to run an em sands wich means you’re even lower on atk so you practically gotta go with an atk circlet, meaning less CD. So you’re both missing out on atk and CD, I mean yea XL and Bennett are gonna make up for some of the akt but the loss is still quite noticeable. Perhaps im just getting something wrong here lol but ye
@@arany5123 амос во всем лучше (и в среднем уроне) в чистом уроне, но если козе заливать тонну атаки через беннета или с6 шэнь хэ, тропа может быть более полезна
@@AriraleLover ты дурак или как посмотри на ШАНС КРИТА с Охотничья тропа шанса крита много вата 90% шапку можно поставить на на КРИТ урон а не на крит шанс как с АМОСОМ
@@AriraleLover не может. у моей козы с часами на мс амос даже без единого стака сильнее. Это при наличии беннета(777 база и 11 ульта + знать) и сянки в пати. Шапка под тропу естественно меняется на ку
@@G0ldb3rg_ считать нужно не от макс урона, а от среднего. Забей в браузере геншин аспирин, вбей свои артефакты и сравни. К слову, часы на мс кал полный, ты теряешь 25% урона в никуда
@K Theres a few flaws I would like to point out in this video's comparison
1. Melt Ganyu requires her to be at almost point blank range, you either get 0 stacks on your initial shot + 3 stacks on your bloom or 1stack on initial and 4 on bloom, not the 3 or 4 stacks on intitial shot like in this video.
2. You did not account for the higher crit rate on the 2 different builds you ran. Higher crit rate means higher average dmg so you should at least x the % of the crit rate for the average damage. (I did a rough calculation for you and just from this video alone, Hunter's path deals roughly 10k more dmg per CA on average). You could have also changed your crit dmg circlet to crit rate instead for the amos bow so that it at least has a decent crit rate and gives a much fairer comparison.
3. Melt Ganyu can also have kazuha in the team instead of Xiangling, some even have c2 kazuha giving an additional 200 EM which in turn would complement Hunter's path passive really well which is another win. It is a bit unfair in my opinion that you directly came to a conclusion that Amos is the better option here as there should be further testing
Dont get me wrong tho I really appreciate the fact that there is someone on UA-cam making a comparison video but it is still a bit too early to say that this new weapon is weaker than the old one without enough testing. I dont want to see people who really wants to max their Melt Ganyu regret in the future because they watched a few weapon comparison video and decided to not pull for a weapon that really has potential to be the best weapon for melt Ganyu.
Having over 80% crit rate on Ganyu for charge shots is very redundant. Her A1 passive boosts the crit rate by 20%, so this could have been further balanced wifh a crit damage sands.
*circlet!! Not sands
melt ganyu perform incredibly well with hunter path but the performance will fall off in other criteria. solo damage or freeze damage is lower than amos.
melt ganyu = hunter path
all rounder ganyu = amos
@@sand6419 so Amos basically
You didn't use bennet's burst wich is what makes hunter's path better than amos bow because it benefits more from bennet's flat atk buff
Still pulling for Amos, don't wanna make my Ganyu a bennett slave, and since I rarely use melt outside Abyss, this bow will underperform for 95% of the time
@@otakufedido3009 Then you shouldn't pull for Amos either, because that will make her a crit slave :) Aqua is a middle ground I'd say.
@@otakufedido3009 if you use melt ganyu she's already bennet's slave, with the bow you just make it official
@@enorilrandomland5389 Let me explain, this bow is only slightly better than Amos in a very specific situation while being worse in literally every other activity you do using Ganyu. Doesn't worth it.
@@otakufedido3009 Since we're only talking about melt ganyu, pairing her with bennet is everything but specific.
And the upgrade is about 25% (from what i saw) so not very slightly either.
thanks for the comparison
idk why people are still pressed abt what the bis for melt is, it hasnt been amos for a while and now we have something better
still using amos cuz it looks better and is more universal for her lmao
Even without benny burst it wouldnt be fair to compare it like this , cause hunters path has so much crit rate that its even overlaping 100% (110% with ganyu passive) , while amos has 66% (with ganyu passive). But even like this , average dmg for amos would be 73k dmg with 66% crit rate , while for hunters path it would be 83k with 10% crit rate value lost cause its overlaping , so if you could swap that in artifacts she would do even more. Hunters is just objectively better
Yeah I definitely need to put more grit damage on with the hunters path
now im regret pulling hunter path..
I got Hunter's path on accident so it's great that it works on ganyu
same lmao but i dont really like tighnari so i decided to take ganyu
Did you use a crit damage circlet with both builds? Also you'll want to Have Benny boy's Q in action for the attack boost. It will help Hunter's Path damage boost more than Amos build.
Yes, I did use same crit dmg circlet on both comparison. Will do a little experiment with benny boost 👍🏼
Is Amos bow good on Tighnari?
how its possible? hunter path grant crt and elemental dmg boost based em stat. Recently used to compare skyward harpR2 and tighnari´s weapon but the harp quite hits harder while elemental reaction the green bow gets the crown. Idk if Im regret for pulling it or if I should ve waited for ganyu banner perhaps hoping for her new weapon as used to release new weapon for tartaglia
Do u wanna risk getting the doughnut?
@@sledgethatcher9011 I don't wanna risk getting the donut so I am pulling for a weapon now. If i get vanquisher, I'm just gonna slap it on Cyno and not pull ganyu and since he gets interrupted while in burst mode, he probably needs zhongli for most of his comps.
@@sledgethatcher9011 Its ok I wont complain but still great weapon and fits easteticaly fine for Ganyu
thnaks
Well that's interesting 🤔.....I was sure that hunter bow will be better than Amos but only only in full EM melt build...... maybe with Bennett attack buff Hunter can be higher.....but maybe not now when I saw video.....Amos is still Numero universal better than rest...... confused bec of hunter pasiv but yeah whatever
I'll make another comparison video against perpetual mechanical array. But this time, I'll make sure the stat is somewhat similar even the weapon is different, so the result would be relevant.
@@m.khaizuran1471 well I think yours videos comparison is showing how Amos is still best overall for Ganyu but New Hunter bow is only good with melt EM build and damage is similar to Amos in melt scenario even you think bec of Crit rate and pasive Hunter will be better but no it is not
@@markeeecmarkoni2855 yes. Amos Is way Better in my opinion because It works well in every situation. I got Amos bow. No way i'll ever pull for Hunter's Path
Hunters path gives cr so u should use a cd circlet
For god's sake, I did use crit dmg circlet.
Either you should always use CD circlet on Ganyu cuz her passive gives crit rate anyways.
too much crit. need to adjust those crit rate
i dont have amos bow so hunter's path for me.
I really sad if having ganyu and full set wandering troop also crown her and don't have Amos bow 😞😩😫
You can get amos on its next rerun if you truly want it save 200 wishes for it,you got it!
@@arigatameiwaku 😭
Hunters path is way better than amos if you use bennett (You didn't)
it’s not way better maybe still worse or somewhat equal.. if you want a weapon to outperform Amos in a melt scenario then it’s Aqua Simulacra for you
@@_.v.bubbl.v._ Nope, KQM already did the math, hunters path is 14% better than amos for melt
@@fainted8230 then I’d like to see the result like an actual ingame test
@@_.v.bubbl.v._ Just look at the spreadsheet lol
@@fainted8230 I think I just don’t really get how it’s supposed to be better (genuine not hate) cuz you def want to run an em sands wich means you’re even lower on atk so you practically gotta go with an atk circlet, meaning less CD. So you’re both missing out on atk and CD, I mean yea XL and Bennett are gonna make up for some of the akt but the loss is still quite noticeable. Perhaps im just getting something wrong here lol but ye
That means....amos bow is better for ganyu
This test is not conclusive for that. Look at the Crit rate difference between the 2. This weapon will crit a lot more, so it could be better.
@@arany5123 амос во всем лучше (и в среднем уроне) в чистом уроне, но если козе заливать тонну атаки через беннета или с6 шэнь хэ, тропа может быть более полезна
@@AriraleLover ты дурак или как посмотри на ШАНС КРИТА с Охотничья тропа шанса крита много вата 90% шапку можно поставить на на КРИТ урон а не на крит шанс как с АМОСОМ
@@AriraleLover не может. у моей козы с часами на мс амос даже без единого стака сильнее. Это при наличии беннета(777 база и 11 ульта + знать) и сянки в пати.
Шапка под тропу естественно меняется на ку
@@G0ldb3rg_ считать нужно не от макс урона, а от среднего. Забей в браузере геншин аспирин, вбей свои артефакты и сравни. К слову, часы на мс кал полный, ты теряешь 25% урона в никуда