I've been reading Schoenberg's book on composition recently, and boy this is *so* much clearer than his chapter on sonata form! Many thanks, very tempted to sign up for the full course.
Sonata was a curiosity since I came to know thru a film long back. Your effort on explaining cleared my curiosity on it thru structure on three steps intrigue and assimilation : Exposition, Development and Re-capitulation from rhythm to melodic to harmonic to textural. Keep it up❤
When Sonata Form was evolved there was no recorded music so maybe most people only heard pieces very occasionally and hence the particular value of exposition, development and recapitulation and also known form. I guess it was only the Emperors and Aristocracy who had their own organic CD players who they instructed to 'play it again Sam.' Yet another great video - thank you.
It would be great to have UA-cam videos of, for example, some of Mozart's sonatas with the distinct sections labeled (1st subject, 1st subject developed on the relative minor, etc.) in order to make them easier to follow.
Can someone suggest a sonata that is easy to follow through this framework? I love Beethoven but his stuff is so complicated it's pretty hard to tell when a new theme isn't just a variation of a previous theme because he gets so adventurous. It's easy to detect parts of the Development sections because he really digs in there, but where they begin/end is complicated. Thankfully his Recapitulation is clear, even though he changes a lot even then, too... but it's still recognizable enough you know where you are. 😅 I'd like to write something in Sonata form, but really need something simpler to really get this framework down. It doesn't have to be great - it has to be clear.
@@MusicMattersGBI completely understand that,sir , as I have played this music my whole life, but my point is that the repeat sign- double bar was written upside down on the screen that I saw. I was pointing that out in case you did not realize that. Nevertheless, I enjoy the content
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I've been reading Schoenberg's book on composition recently, and boy this is *so* much clearer than his chapter on sonata form! Many thanks, very tempted to sign up for the full course.
Thanks. Go for it!
Yeah! I agree with you. 😊
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Amazing video, as always. I appreciate the clear explanations. I have some new ideas thanks to this video
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I learned about a primary and secondary theme, so the idea of a first subject group, and 2nd subject group is intriguing.
Yes. It’s a way of extending your Sonata Form plan.
I wish someone had explained this to me so clearly years ago. I have played lots of sonatas without understanding their structure. Thank you so much!
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Sonata was a curiosity since I came to know thru a film long back. Your effort on explaining cleared my curiosity on it thru structure on three steps intrigue and assimilation : Exposition, Development and Re-capitulation from rhythm to melodic to harmonic to textural. Keep it up❤
Glad it’s helpful. The rest of the Sonata Form course is available at www.mmcourses.co.uk
Thank you so much for your clear explanations.
That’s most kind. Much more at www.mmcourses.co.uk
When Sonata Form was evolved there was no recorded music so maybe most people only heard pieces very occasionally and hence the particular value of exposition, development and recapitulation and also known form. I guess it was only the Emperors and Aristocracy who had their own organic CD players who they instructed to 'play it again Sam.' Yet another great video - thank you.
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Thank you!
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It would be great to have UA-cam videos of, for example, some of Mozart's sonatas with the distinct sections labeled (1st subject, 1st subject developed on the relative minor, etc.) in order to make them easier to follow.
We do that as part of the Sonata Form course at www.mmcourses.co.uk
@@MusicMattersGB Thanks for the prompt reply.
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Hi mr green ,thanks a lot, if you write an example of simple sonata ,step by step , it Will be so helpful for me 💙🌹🙏
That’s exactly what I do in the Sonata Form course available at www.mmcourses.co.uk
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Can someone suggest a sonata that is easy to follow through this framework? I love Beethoven but his stuff is so complicated it's pretty hard to tell when a new theme isn't just a variation of a previous theme because he gets so adventurous. It's easy to detect parts of the Development sections because he really digs in there, but where they begin/end is complicated. Thankfully his Recapitulation is clear, even though he changes a lot even then, too... but it's still recognizable enough you know where you are. 😅 I'd like to write something in Sonata form, but really need something simpler to really get this framework down. It doesn't have to be great - it has to be clear.
Try a Mozart Sonata. Much easier to see.
@@MusicMattersGB Good call. Thanks.
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Donald Tovey's classic 'Companion to the Beethoven Piano Sonatas' offers a helpful section-by-section analysis.
@marcstauch3081 Absolutely
I've been a professional musician most of my life and have never seen a repeat-double bar as you have written. Why?
Just about every Haydn and Mozart Piano Sonata first movements, for example, have repeat signs at the end of the Exposition.
@@MusicMattersGBI completely understand that,sir , as I have played this music my whole life, but my point is that the repeat sign- double bar was written upside down on the screen that I saw. I was pointing that out in case you did not realize that. Nevertheless, I enjoy the content
Just listen to Bruce Springsteen’s “Born to Run”. That’s actually written in Sonata form.
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I will ask to teach us practical, Acsion speak louder than wordes.
Absolutely. The course is really practical.
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