【ENG Sub】Aqua talks about the reality of always playing alone - APEX Legends【Hololive】
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- Опубліковано 11 вер 2024
- Minato Aqua from Sololive explains why she doesn't join any full party team in any tournament and why she always plays solo and does a simulation of how would it be if she played in a party
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“I am the one that is weird”
Tbf, everyone in Hololive is weird in their own way. Heck, even we are weird sometimes
sometimes?
sometimes eh..
rather, most of the time for me at least so yeah, ikwym..
I think she means weird as unusual, she's not playing the game the way it's intended. Playing solo and playing with a regular team are two completely different games.
*all the times
As it should be
I really respect Aqua for even being able to play games like Apex alone. I often thought about how much fun it would be to play. But in the end, even when i download it i never start a game because i'm too afraid to disappoint my teammates and get yelled at.
Same here.
But now that NoFill matchmaking is a thing I have played a few solo games in Duos.
@@Nachtflut I actually didn't know that. Maybe i'll try that. Thank you very much =)
@@noitamin94 Yeah it was added like Monday or Tuesday.
I'll be honest. Most people that play Apex sort of slam queue after queue. If you type in at the start of a match "this is my first time playing" or "I'm very new to this game" your teammates will leave you be. Also you can just mute voice chat before you even start a match.
Gl bro, hope you can try it out one day 👍🏿
@@Yawnz2 Yeah that'd probably work. I just think NoFill Duos is a nice way for beginners (like me) to get used to abilities, weapons and such at their own pace before jumping in with random strangers.
I understand her feeling, She's so precious
yes.. she's SOOOOOO precious >w
Aqua: "Playing alone is not an ordinary thing"
Me: "have I been weird this whole time?"
Maybe it is some Japanese thing to always party que.
Most of the fps games I have played (cs, apex, valorant, cod), all of my friends including me most of time soloQ even if we would be online at a same time...
Solo queuing is life
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I think that in this case is not even a matter of social awkwardness. Maybe so, Aqua being Aqua, but I've seen many not being comfortable in playing teams regardless of their social skills. I myself turn into a moron on auto-pilot when I play with people I have to be wary of lol. I feel like I should consider them more, so I stop playing as I would play, while trying to accommodate them. Which in the end turns me into a glorified NPC with terrible AI.
that is so true. I feel like I do that as well INITIALLY. The longer I play with a group of the same people, I know their playstyle and hence will be able to accomodate them as well as myself. Thats one reason why Aqua should spread out and really stop playing Solo. Even Astel is trying to hit Masters this season but he is doing it with Izuru I think and he is still chilling in D2. Aqua is really not far off.
I've been playing Spellbreak that has true solo mode as well as squads. I always play solo, but then once because there was squad-related quest I played a few games and it was a mess, I had to constantly be aware of where we are going, wonder whether I should ping items in case someone needs them, and awkward situations of who will get the upgrade scrolls. In solo I can just do my own thing and not have to think about others or negotiate.
@@rtyzxc In short playing with others is tiring lol. Especially true when you're playing support roles.
I agree. I generally avoid MP shooters with "classes" I hate it (even with friends). "We need a Tank, you be one" "You suck with that char, change to someone else" or "Why didn't you XXX! We couldve won!"
Normally, Im the type who prefers run and gun but because of these sort of games (and to keep mouths shut), I play as a Healer class. Just mindlessly heal whoever's health is the lowest.
I guess that's what more often happened indeed. Team game that I actually play is more to ttrpg. Some people indeed taking it hard way and harshly "critique" others. But it's actually depends on each person. I guess more people just like being sh*t and blame to others. If you watch Astel or Meika Apex stream recently, they usually saying sorry for making mistake themselves when not reaching Champion, then reviewing their play. I guess that's a pro for you?
As the wise Doggo once said: *”Have confidence”*
No confidence 😔
No confidence 😔
As the above says..
This onion simply too shy to even try, possibly to past trauma, and apparently conscious about it, which makes it looks worse..
This type needs external influence/someone reaching out to them, rather than trying to do it themselves due to extreme introvert nature, i know because i can relate so yeah..
Also wise doggo said : "*No Confidence*"
*Dies* "no confidence"
With this clip I hope the inconsiderate people in chat who keeps spamming "why not play with Ame, Ollie, Ayame etc" stop. She even said in one of the stream not to force her to play with someone since she's not ready yet, she wanted to take the initiative by herself on inviting people to play with her. So please be be considerate and just wait, and she if doesn't that's OK too since the most important is how she's enjoying the game.
Imma up this comment
Imma up this comment (2) and the reply is spitting facts
Stop putting your own personal enjoyment to the girls. It’s indeed fun watching collabs but there’s no point if the streamer themselves doesn’t have fun.
I know and personally i think she really just finds it more beneficial to play with no distractions of other conversation even if she’s not talking. She looked like she was very close to mentioning she doesn’t want a lot of talking while in a party but didn’t because it was probably rude to say as she could be including other hololive members. I know a lot of people including myself find it much easier to focus that way. It’s not about finding very experienced players. It’s about how your able to focus and some people can’t change their play style so this is completely normal.
@@theshadowmaster2702 i kinda agree with her on a personal level regarding playing solo in ranked(with randoms) since it can be very frustrating when there's a fuckup, be it you or somebody else(moreso when it's a simple/rookie mistake).
it's alot easier to play solo since there isn't as much room for concern/self-constrain as compared to when playing with friends since you don't want to end up damaging relationships out of frustration. not that I'm saying it's fine to scream at randoms but just that you don't need to be as self-conscious. last time i played league of legends with a friend's friend(who is also somewhat of an acquaintance) I pretty much became the target board for the dude at least half the games we played together in. sure I'm not as good as him(dude was like around plat give or take, highest I've reach was only silver) and we only played casuals but man he really ticked me off. stuff like this can really turn you off from pre-making squads, even if your teammates are nice people
i hope someday aqua find someone who can make her comfort to play apex together
I’ll trust whatever she says but I do hope she doesn’t let her fear of communicating make that choice for her, rather her own volition
One day, Aqua will find the Moona in her life
She had one in CN (Civia) but they lost the branch before they could collab since Civia hadn't learned Japanese yet…
She has a very nice Mother named Marine :)
We need an aqua and ayame collab. It'll be just the right amount of awkwardness
Ayame apex w. utaite member is wholesome
I kinda get how Aqua feels everytime i play ranked game I'll always find an excuse to not play with others cause I'll feel goddamn awkward or Im not that good enough to play with them
I've been soloing rank lately and tbh I find it way more easy to focus on the game if you're not talking to anyone
I on the other hand need a team to pull through, because I got used to plays where we need communication to do x or y. So if I talk to a stranger, either they only want what they want, or not pull through with what I request, so going solo removed much of my capabilities, and teaming with strangers is not something I can do, unless it's only with friends
@@eruphin3601 100 agree on that one. Except I suck at following order sometime and basically almost get my entire teamate died due to them saving me haha.
My brain kinda just shut off for some reason playing with other people's. Can relate with aqua.
Look how she grow in a span of a year... Good StartEnd memory.
i agree with with her.
Me too principally because i can't really comunicate with people
Yeah generally people who have bad social skills tend to prefer doing pretty much anything by themselves rather than with the help of someone else because it's easier and more comfortable to do so
Perhaps it's because we always try to think of what to say and how to deal with the other person, making us lose our focus
definitely, it’s hard to please people
tbh, the fact that she's streaming in front of a big number of audience while playing is something like me being an introvert can't do.
so that alone is something I respect about Aqua
the irony, Apex is Aqua's current favorite game but its pretty much the one battle royale game where you have to play on a team everytime
I think that is part of the appeal. Aqua seems like she likes having teammates and isnt confident enough to ask someone she knows.
Well you can que in solo if you want, but that is suicide unless you are smurfing hard.
imagine if she wasn’t muted and her teammates were just respectfully not saying anything and just listening to her
Nothing wrong with going solo if she's comfortable with it. But should she ever form a team in the future, I hope it would happen naturally, with people having the same wavelength as her, and are as passionate.
I mean, we know this rabbit that used to say she's best working alone in minecraft...
oh man, the character development of that rabbit was so nice to personally witness honestly.
@Wolf Sekiro wait hmm?
i know that, i was just saying how nice the PekoMoon arc was to witness at the moment, like 3-ish months after falling down the rabbit hole peko
This Aqua episode reminds me of old Peko when she used to play MC alone. Aqua needs a Moona moment.
For a Moona moment she needs someone who can't really speak japanese but is still good at fps games. I can hear some gremlin noises in the distance.
@@castform57 I think our toxic gremlin would overwhelm the baqua onion
@@spacecore6000 Ame in collabs is super seiso and polite,especially in collabs with JP senpais.Actually Aqua&Ame used to play 1 game together but the only think Ame can say was "How's today weather?" bcs she cant speak Japanese
I mean pekora still plays alone she plays at all. Its been months since then.
Kuzuha must be proud when ame use weather deck
Yeah playing in a team with the expectations that come with it is pretty tough sometimes
Unless its a certain Zombie
@@zergmon9999 ah although that zombie managed to break Astel's shell, I think she will overwhelm Aqua
Amelia is our best bet as long as they are not playing ranked.. Lol
@@yamiRic i hope Ollie can come up to her
I know I'm late but aqua, YOU DID IT. YOU'RE GONNA PLAY IN AN APEX TOURNAMENT WITH TEAMS.
Man seeing old clips made me feel proud on herself development
Yep these clips aged really well lol
I don't even think it's solely about shyness. I'm actually picking up the sense that she's worried about a lot more. I suspect she plays solo because she's afraid of not only communicating in general, but also of making mistakes and letting down her teammates and vice versa of teammates making mistakes and causing emotions to run high from it.
She has a really good attitude with randoms, because she can easily accept that it's just not in her control whatever they do, but that dynamic is totally different once you start playing with people you know and want to form teams with. She might be afraid that she'd be holding back someone else, or afraid to tell someone that they're holding her back.
In a sense, it's a lot like the Pekora-Moona relationship. Pekora probably tip toed around alot afraid to ask or tell, but Moona's attitude towards Minecraft really compliments how Pekora wants to play, so it is easy for them to get along. That said, Apex is competitive no matter how you look at it, and emotions can run high if you get really into a game.
In that sense, she really just needs a teammate to compliment her style.
She played Apex with Ame offstream
it's not about awkwardness, it's all about social anxiety when you "don't want to bother other people" or "making people dissapointed about what people expect from you"
Anxiety and awkwardness are not mutually exclusive, she could very well think that her awkwardness is what bothers and disappoints people.
I hope this year she can reduce her social anxiety even a little bit and i hope someone can break her inner circle and makes her to become more confident
Sounds like something a certain zombie can handle
Really hoping our Aqua can overcome her shyness and confidently invite other members for collabs. And you are definitely not the weird one Aqua.
Its probably a mission to be carried out by a certain Zombie with possible help from a certain Alien or perhaps an Oni.
I feel for Aqua. Such issues are difficult to deal with and can really tear into one's quality of life and happiness.
Aqua envisioning playing in teams:
"D-Do you need shield? I'm collecting sniper ammo..."
Meanwhile, Ame playing in teams:
"STOP SPAMMING SIGNAL YOU PIECE OF SHIT"
This aged like fine wine
I like character development. Now she is playing with everyone despite her social anexity. Truly sasuga maid.
The melancholy contemplation of an incredibly eccentric, yet adorable, onion.
I was hoping she was playing Apex so she can collab with Shion and ayame again. The three of them playing and commenting was one of the best.
its because manji-gumi is the legendary trio
@@Ijimedayo Forgotten
I’ve never related so much, ever since I was a child my father left me and my mom decided to work overseas, I wasn’t taught how to socialize properly nor learn it myself cuz I got bullied everyday because of my family name, I hope she overcomes this someday.
I hope she makes more friends, I feel really bad listening to her story. Come on Aqua you can do it!
Aqua needs to find her Moona like Pekora did who is also similarly skilled as her with a lot of patience. I think Aqua is pretty awesome and in some ways, reminds me of myself in that respect, so I just wish the best for her even if she has to take things at a snails pace.
The amount of aqua clips I’ve been getting since that stream is way too many to count
This isn't supposed to sound negative but this right here is why I can't understand why people have asked so many times in Towa's chat during the last Apex tournament and at the start of CR Cup customs where Aqua is.
I mean do they really expect Aqua of all people to join a (random) team and compete if she doesn't even play with her fellow Hololive members?
I think most people can't comprehend being as shy as Aqua is online. I had no idea even after watching Aqua clips for months (mostly her minecraft building projects) but after watching clips like this its obvious
@@Yawnz2 It's probably weird for many that Aqua can stream (and talk) for thousands of people but she is incapable to play normally while playing with her friends. For most people it's other way around.
Yeah, you think Kuzuha has it bad? Aqua is on a totally different level.
for someone like Aqua, the best we (viewers and fans) can do is to watch and support her (without any backseating or stream snipping)
and never suggest or forced her to do something she didn't want to do, except if she ask us for it.
for anyone felt dissapointed with her decision, just hold it in for yourself and don't ever speak.
Still remember when shion grinding to cath up aqua rank, but after she almost reach it, aqua just got even higher rank, makes it hard for shion to ask to collab with her
I really understand this. I understand before she talked about it. Most people like solo rank. It helps you focus. Right now she has one goal in mind, Solo Master. It's hard but all we can do now is to support her. Next season maybe she'll play casual with friends again. Apex team tournament? Like she said, in 10 years.
@Wolf Sekiro I agree, if she were to collab she would have to do it with someone that is in a similar level to her, has the same desire to rank up, the same passion, the same will to improve at the game and get to the top as she does; and currently, there's no one in Hololive with such level and passion for this game besides her. Historically it'd have to be Botan, but currently, no one...
edit: Of course I'm not including Holostars here, sadly I'm pretty sure there's just no way Aqua does collab with holostars lmao
In my head I am imagining aqua watching cr cup, wondering if she could do the same like her hololive colleagues, she is envious I picture her doing the puppy face, but sadly she can't talk to people lol. I would pay money just to watch her and chihiro play together. They almost stream at the same time and both are doing solo rank, chihiro's reason totally different than aqua's. I am wondering if chihiro can initiate the first move and invite aqua to rank together.
I was thinking the same thing!! I've watched Kana-chi-Kuzu play together for a long time now, and have always thought Chihiro and Aqua would get along well. Not sure they are even acquainted though. Would be nice to see her stream with another friend or 2 while sharing some laughs from time to time.
I feel you Aqua. Actually im not too introvert or too shy to ask people for playing with me, but the problem is I'm afraid that if your teammates have high expectations for you for beeing good in the game and you can't afford it. So yeah I always end up playing solo, especially in the competitive games. When Aqua trying to imagine she was playing with other people, i feel her here. You know im also want to see Aqua playing with other in this game but, let see as long as she is happy for now i'm okay with that she can do it for next time in the future whenever she is ready.
Playing alone is better than being in party, for me I experience being in a party but in the end they blamed each other and become toxic, like I want to play with just for fun but did'nt expect them to be toxic players.
It is just about finding people that you want to play with... everything else will resolve itself. You know when you have found the correct people to play with when from the beginning everything just goes smooth and you enjoy to play with them and have feeling that you want to play with them more. Aqua just has not experienced this yet, so it is difficult to imagine.
I don't know if she's speaking from a wound or something, but you can hear it. The fact that it's beyond awkwardness. I'm just grateful that she has us. Our support during these moments at least says to her that she's not truly alone.
playing alone is lonely, i have played many multiplayer games, and playing alone and no one to talk with is sad, especially single player games, when you complete the game and you feel happy for a second and feel sad
Aqua is to precious. Hopefully a member of holo can invite her to play in a party and help her open up
I know this feeling. After 6 seasons of playing alone, my friends are able to play Apex with me now. But whenever we play I always instinctively go for that solo player mindset where I stay silent for the whole game and expect my teammates to know what they're doing, even though they're fairly new to the game.
I kinda relate to Aqua in this regard, for a lot of time I almost didn't talk to people in general with very few exceptionsbecause I didn-t want to be a bother. It was until High School when I had a revelation and just... stopped caring what people think of me, I took the decision to stop and being more sociable, however what seemed like a big shift out of nowhere to everybody it was something I thought and prepared mentally for a lot of time. It's not hard to break that bubble, heck even now I still have those kind of episodes with a lot of people.
It's very very hard, we need enough time, be mentally prepared and that moment of courage to do it.
I know somebody that is just like Aqua. Somebody who was socially awkward, and had difficulty speaking with others. When I met him, I saw him trying to maintain distance from others. I notice this, and immediately started to interact with him and slowly introduced him to the group. Now, he is basically a different guy. (Probably knows way more people than I do now lol). My point with this is that Aqua needs time, the other holomembers will make such huge impact in her life. In a year or so, she will probably be way different than how she is now.
I am anxious to see her bloom and become someone with confidence and faith.
When she finally overcomes this obstacle and forms a party with other Holomembers, she could probably lead that party really damn far with that leadership she was born with.(she hasn’t noticed that she is a natural leader, when she gains some confidence, you will see her (ง'̀-'́)ง)
I get how she feels, im super awk and like to just follow quietly and do my best, social awkward gang lets goooo
Nothing is weird about enjoying a game solo.
Heck Towa, Ayame and Botan are mostly Solo Apex players themselves.
Personally, being in a party of friends gave you lot of pressure, they know who you are and they will expect you to perform based on how they know your play history, well even if they don't, you will end up putting that pressure on yourself.
Being on party of strangers however gave you the benefit of anonymity. If you for some reason perform awfully you can just "welp shit happens" and can actually enjoy the game rather than being tense.
Social wise, being an introvert myself, it's quite exhausting.
5:25 it's perfectly normal to play alone, don't isolate yourself like that Aqua
Ranked APEX can be sweaty as hell so playing it alone is actually genius not weird. I just hope she slowly gets more confident and breaks out of the social anxiety for just fun apex collabs with others :( ganbatte Onion maid ...
Just because it's a team game doesn't mean you can't have fun as a solo player. The way she talks about it makes it seem like she would like to play with others, but she's really anxious about conversation and making sure they're having fun. When playing with friends, I can relate a lot to the "they're using this type of ammo so maybe I should switch guns or not be as greedy" "I have to remind them to grab a helmet or use their abilities correctly" little things that add up. It can take away from Aqua's normal play style and might make things difficult for her. I remember she's done a few Apex collabs in early 2020 but I haven't seen that lately, wonder if it is just her being nervous and overthinking.
Its hard to play with randoms since they might have high expectations
But if you're with friends, who cares about winning or losing
Its gonna be fine as long as you have fun
sadly, it wasn't the case here. Aqua never seems to get affected by random trash talk in many situations but the thought of needing to be considerate in friend team really can stress a person out especially with Aqua lvl of social anxiety. She definitely overthinks about it but it is what it is, it will take time for her to realize.
Yeah, we can’t called it friend if you keep thinking winning/plays style/communication problem when playing with friends. If you know what i mean lol
People will have different journeys with their games, I wish Aqua all the best. She would definitely be a nice addition to Vtuber Apex tournaments if the opportunity presents itself.
On a different holo member perspective, I am witness to Matsuri's growth as a player and she is still developing. I also started playing Apex because I saw how much fun she has playing.
Matsuri is not as talented as Aqua but grinds hard behind the scenes. She grew by playing with people better than her (Uge, Pakael, Kaga Sumire, Masanori, and looks to be acquainted with Gil-kun, Kawase, Kaminari Qpi, Huma Wat, Kurumi Noah, Komori Met, and Nun Bora) and learning from them.
She also kept on joining tournaments she didn't have any business winning but kept on believing. She was met with fustration after frustration for placing in the bottom ranks, and also got a lot of hate in the process. She finally got vindication for showing up in the latest CR Cup, being a very capable support and hopefully further build up from there.
Those are things you can work on though, as well as being able to find teams you can blend in with, instead of trying to push yourself to blend with them. It's just how it is. It's understandable if you're not comfortable to get into that YET. At some point, surely you'll meet someone that can hold your hand towards that end.
having to learn new things and unlearn old habits while playing with a full party is troublesome. you really do have to change your whole playstyle since one person is assigned to do this and the others get their own part as well. you subconsciously do things that you usually do when you shouldn't, you ruin the whole synergy. it takes a while for getting used to
Tips from someone ottr if I'm not wrong :
"Sometimes being a bad teammate is being a good teammate. This doesn't necessarily means you have to play bad, you just have to play "for yourself" instead of playing for "your teammate"" this advice had totally rised my ability in competitive play, whether it be apex or any other game. You can solo, but face the consequences yourself, don't be a pet to your own teammate. Lastly if they're toxic or constantly trash talking, you cn just ignore them or reply with another toxic joke, always work.
Thanks for reading
Thanks for clipping this! I have a screenshot of this timeframe just to see if there was a translation during the stream for it. Was hoping to watch the archive and decipher what she said. Awesome that it got clipped by you!
I'm glad to hear that!
I hope she start giving it a chance and with some time learn how to play properly with a team, she loves this game and keeps getting really good at it, it would be really nice for her to participate on a tournament.
Playing solo in ranked is not weird. It's the ultimate challenge. I've heard experienced players say that it's much harder to rank up through plat and diamond solo. Aqua is taking the most difficult path and is doing an amazing job.
Aqua feelings kinda resonate with me on certain level like ''playing solo is more comfortable'' tbf i dont have any social anxieties i just have keen sense of awareness where i notice the little things or what other people hint or stuff. But playing with a team or in gamer words, *stacking* has alot of advantage especially in rank matches , its very common for pro level player to stack so they can adapt learn and improve themself better as a team its like if you stack in a party but you know you are really good like Aqua but you still lost , either you made a mistake or your team made a mistake thats all. I play various competitive games CSGO , Valorant , Apex and other games as well , i have bunch of friends who wanna stack with me but sometimes it just made you more self conscious and turn into a NPC that you cant play at your peak performance as you play solo. Because you are too busy being self conscious and thinking what is best for your team that you lock your potential behind a bar and limit your skillset hence making silly judgement or poor decision choices that result in loses. BUT as a solo and team play myself i realise that adapting your playstyle to your team is pretty hard for people who is not used to team play most people failed to integrate themself in a team resulting in awkward gaming experience and made them frustrated and loses. For me what i find harder to find is the same person who share the same sentiment and also has sportmanship attitude and desire to win. Not just win and reach Master , Apex. But to win and keep winning while improving myself to be better or be the best team i could have. MANY people grow complacent and just stop playing when they reach certain rank like ''Ah i reach Dia GG guys i am gonna go off its a good game i am not climbing rank anymore you guys can climb'' Basically their goal is to reach certain rank and when they achieve it they dont wanna go further anymore . For me thats kinda sad you know?
I totally get you. People who want to rank up instead of actually wanting to improve at the game... if you aim to improve you will end up ranking even higher than if the only thing you aim for is a cool logo
completely understand this. as much as I'd like to play ranked anything with people i could talk to, having to be aware of what they're saying and doing and needing completely inhibits my ability to play, making the whole idea of being a good team useless. solo play is just easier most of the time.
I'm in the same sort of boat as Aqua. I find it simpler to queue for Ranked matches solo.
I'm often playing as a loner in my multiplayer games and just joining pick-up-groups. It can sometimes take a lot of effort to find people that you can work well together with in competitive multiplayer situations vs just playing solo and only having to manage your own performance
For real so many members play Apex a lot, if she wanted she could have many squads, and play casually if she doesnt want to order and talk a lot.
She's not a loner guys, she's an APEX LONE WOLF!
I completely relate to her on this situation. I'm sure that my confidence has gone up and can at least talk confidently, but in games like Apex or any kind of team-based games its really hard to sync up with people who are really not in the same wavelength as you are. It gets way harder when you are socially awkward and I feel that.
I love Aqua even more because of this and so I was wondering why I loved watching her.
i can relate to aqua to this very much and i know that even if you're currently enjoying playing alone, you'll get bored of it soon. I've been there and I'm still there. I've played Dota, LoL, Csgo, Apex, and other moba games alone, it was fun in the beginning but it gets boring and mundane after repeating it again and again. It just stops being fun because you've no one to talk to, about your plays, funny moments, and other things. You've no one to tell about your achievements, so what's the point? I've played with friends in the past and it was so fun having people you can talk with. i missed those times. Humans are social animals after all.
She really reminds me of Pekora back when she wouldn’t play minecraft with others, or even if there were too many members already on the server.
Hopefully somebody will come along and pull Aqua out of her shell. It seems to have worked out well for a certain rabbit and moon combo.
I really feel for her. I mainly solo queue so I definitely see where she’s coming from. I will be the most supportive teammate that I can and usually keep to myself. It’s less of being shy and more of “I don’t want to bother with navigating with others”, though.
I’d be over the moon though if I could have a teammate as nice as her. 👌
some people in the comments saying, “she should play with [insert any holomem] and that should be fun”. guys remember, that's your own opinion. and the kind of person wouldn't matter, it doesn't remove the fact that aqua will still get anxious if she's forced onto a game that needs communication directly. we just gotta support her whether she plays alone or when she finally decides and takes the initiative to invite someone to play with her.
This clip makes me really sad for aqua. I had a lot of social anxiety when I went to university at first to the point where I didn't like going to class because I was afraid someone would talk to me in the halls. I hope she is able to break through but only time can tell but, I do really think its possible. Pekora hated playing Minecraft when there were too many people online and now she forces herself into a bunch of new situations to the point where she has said it is so much more enjoyable to let go of her anxiety a bit. All we can really do as viewers is hope that Aqua is able to develop in her own way and support her in her journey. Ganbatte !
I think Aqua is more like an Adaptive player, she plays as usual and adapts to situation, if her teammates are lacking she carries them wherever possible, if the teammates are good she goes brrrrrrr.
I don't even need to watch the video to understand, I just do. Even then, watching the video hit hard.
I can relate this. Queue with strangers feels different when you queue with friends/party. With strangers, I can always be the ingame leader, telling strangers to do this and that but when I'm with friends, I always want them to make the move. And now, I'm a D4 and I think my friends don't wanna play with me 'cause we just have a big gap of skills. AND of course 'cause of the skill's gap, my friends rarely play apex. Well yeah, I'm a solo PMA warrior
Playing alone for a long time makes it even harder to communicate with others when the time comes. I experienced the same thing in the past but now I have friends that are like family. I hope she can find friends whom she can be comfortable to spend time with and play stuff like Apex together.
Tbh it's kinda worrying at this point she's it's been a while now yet Aqua still haven't had that much improvement in her communication, even Pekora improved herself and they are kinda the same introverts with social awkwardness, I mean Aqua's moments with Minecraft and ARK is good when it comes to interacting, she's still pretty awkward about it, her talk with Kaichou was pretty touching as well. I guess it's probably that she just doesn't really want to or she can't connect because of age gap kinda like Shion and Haato.
Talk about being in the same position. I’ve never played rank with actual friends either. Sure I’ve played with a random for a few or 4 games of ranked but after adding them, I’ve never really tried to reach out or invited them. Also the fact that most players in asia don’t speak english decreases the chances of me ever playing with someone. I’m also scared of speaking to them too due to me realizing how toxic I was to my friends when I played with them, like are they gonna judge me or are they gonna find me annoying. Soloq in apex is a bit too unbearable but I can’t do anything about it, I chose to do it this way
Relatable, really. It's tough to communicate with random people, and learning to play with others is also hell if you're afraid of disappointing someone by not winning all the time. Precious onion gets it. Hope she can overcome her barriers one day, and I can overcome mine.
Relatable. Playing in teams can feel stressful, trying to figure out how much you have to be considerate for your team mates when you are not used to that type of play style. At least in solo queues, all of you are just going solo together. Everyone can take care of them selves and no need to got too out of the way to help them. You go at your own pace Aqua.
This is me in every game. I'd rather be cursing at random teammates rather than my friends. I can't help it because i play seriously in every game with ranking system. It's frustrating when others do not try good enough but idk, maybe i'm just toxic.
Now she lives alone. I guess that she has more time for think about it (いろいろ考えます) You know, that silence when you are alone... is beautiful but sometimes it is lonely
Aqua's social anxiety and awkwardness are really off the chart. Even the likes of Pekora and Korone, who are massive introverts themselves, arent have that much problem.
But I can really hear in her voice that she wanted to play with others, without thinking too much. So, I can only imagine how much Shion meant for her.
I know how she feels, mine is so bad that I even refrain from writing in the comment section simply because I feel like either no one will care or I'll just upset someone. I'm only very recently starting to push myself to overcome it, I don't want to live like this anymore.
idk i think pekora is moreso outcast herself if the stories are to be believed
Old me would relate a lot with her, but I really hope that one she’ll discover the fun and joy when playing with other party members you know, cuz heck it’s a lot of fun.
aqua is a person who actually play her game very serious (i mean ofcuz she is gaming maid
she said out the point like she need to share this and that to her team mate if she did not do that she might get scold by the chat or something saying why don't she share it that why you guys lose etc (if you watch the apex collab aqua did with shion and ayame then you will kind of understand her style on playing games when collab with member
also if you are playing rank, you wanted to have someone that have similar rank to play with, if not you can only play some random match like ame mel ollie collab that time (yeah and you can see the different
so conclusion is, i love aqua so collab or solo if she happy me happy :)
So, after watching the tournament, what is your comment guys? About aqua collab with others.
I understand completely. I tend to play games alone like that too. Social awkwardness is t the only factor by the way. A lot of people can’t multitask and what I mean is as for me and a lot of other people, we can’t focus playing a game while talking at the same time because it’s required to think about two things at the same time which not everyone can do which is why a lot of people stay quiet or distance themselves from people they know they’ll talk to constantly. As for me I’ve played games I’ve really wanted to progress in but when I’m playing with someone that I’m having a deep conversation with and really getting into the current topic, I can’t stop taking and then I’m distracted and can’t play the game. When that happens to me I decide to not play the fake anymore until I’m alone. No offense I enjoyed people I start really long conversations about stuff that I’m interested in and I could talk about for hours but when I meet you in a competitive mode in a game it could get annoying. The hololive members tend to improvise if it’s too quiet just to make things not boring which I understand but that could also be another issue Aqua Chan has when playing a competitive game. She sounded like she was thinking that but probably thought it was too rude to say which is completely understandable once again. I respect how serious she takes this. Realize it’s not all bad to distance yourself from other gaming friends just during a specific game. It’s your play style and you were born with it and some people can’t change that. I’m not promoting my channel or anything and I haven’t made videos a long time but as an example, I have certain Overwatch videos where I talk to friends and I’m completely scatter brained while playing the game. When I made videos of my gameplay with a collage of clips, I did way better because those clips were taken when I wasn’t with friends or when I did what I could to not listen to them. So really what I’m saying is it’s completely normal to play this way. Lots of people do and it’s not unhealthy. If it works for you it’s your decisions to play that way and probably because it benefits you.
I see this situation like in Pekora's case working alone in Minecraft before she get along with Moona I know its a different game and scenarios but still theres still a chance that Aqua or Ayame will prefer to play Apex someday with Holo mems
I completely understand. Sometimes we have a good party and ppl invite me after that, but playing together in subsequent games is kinda weird and forced and if it doesn't go as well, it feels kinda worse. So I decline party invitations and just solo queue, so if we get killed in the first 30 seconds it's ok and if we champion it feels great
If we can get a single full-length anime episode about Aqua, that would satisfy my need for a whole "Komi Can't Communicate" anime series.
I have 30+ min clips from her it's like anime but longer!
Watching that clips really reminds me of how Pekora was in Minecraft before. "I work better alone."
I just hope Aqua can find her own Moona. I think she just overthink way too much. I play it both solo and with friends, and you don't need to adapt to your squad that much in APEX.
At first I was afraid of being flamed by the random I'm playing with since I'm a beginner, but turns out people are actually quite nice (bar the few toxic idiots) and people are pretty happy when they have a good match with random, even if they don't get champion (like top 5 team with multiple kills each). Tbh I don't even use the voice chat, just using the stock phrases and writing a few words is enough.
Most players in ranked just grind as fast as they can, so they won't waste time raging at their team-mate. If the squad get wiped, they instantly disconnect.
I feel the same. Always rather play alone as I do get a little wild while playing.
I'm sure that if she got into a team with any other vtubers, be it ranked or a tournament, she would fit in sooner than she thought. Even if they were more serious, there would be little to no pointless fussing over trivial things, and she's already very familiar with what you're supposed to do at each different situation and role.
But anxieties be like that, nonsensical. I'm amazed she's completely fine playing ranked with strangers, communicating only by pings and motions.
i love how she's so open with chat, shion but outside of hololive she dont talk
some people do find it's easier to express through Internet (including me)
Aqua's apex skills would compliment Ame's and Ayame's quite well, maybe someday we could have the triple A Apex Holosquad
Thinking about Aqua and team comp, I think she might be able to thrive (and build confidence) with a shot caller to direct her energy and a support to back her up. Basically feed her and trust she will take care of herself once fed. It would minimize the amount of communication she needs to give back to the team. 🤔
Just as what we always wished for her
I wish you the best, Aqua :^)
I guess some people might agree with me,
When u play with a party u might ended up expecting something from ur mate and in turn u didn't play at full capacity but when u solo u know u can't really trust public to do things so u will focus ur gut out in order to win..
Right?
So i kinda feel her but in a way its way enjoyable in party so there's pros and cons to it
i want to encourage her to play with other, but tbh, if she more comfortable playing alone i think that's ok too, i also most of the time play a game by myself, and yeah it's comfortable, but sometimes looking for fresh situation by playing with other also fun
some days ago i watched Ayame and Aqua playing Apex on their own and wonderer why these two don't play together and then i remember they both are very shy and awkward but how i wish they booth would collab together, maybe some day...
Yeah I hope they played Apex again as Manji Gumi group (Aqua, Shion and Ayame) like in the past.
I really wish to see Aqua roll over pros and other vtubers and having fun in some Apex tournament. Maybe one day...