This was a really good explanation of how ND filters can really change what you're shooting I liked it! For my right now I would use the heck out of the for timelapses myself and for the documentary I'm shooting. I'm shooting a doc about another person from my town who is rolling a 230 pound tire around that says "Cancer sucks" to raise awareness around cancer research, make connections with others in our community, and show a different way to get your workout on and stay fit. Sticking an action cam on his head with a ND filter to keep the light looking great while he rolls the tire would just take our project to the next level.
Hey man, thanks for another informative video. Just a question, is the camera still waterproof when using the ND filters? Feels like the magnetic connection would ruin it, unless it’s actually waterproof even w/o the protective lens all together.
This is great stuff Dunna, I am learning new things every day. So Dunna if I was shooting at night should I delay the shutter speed and put on like an N32 filter, or would I have to increase the ISO. I wish I could get a chart with all these settings, would make my life easier 😜🤪
I have Freewell ND filters and they do come in handy for the Osmo Action. Now if they could just fix the issues when shooting in 4k at 24 fps and 1/50th shutter speed. Man it can look horrible as it tries to implement Rock Steady at those settings. Nice time lapse!
Interesting! You’re not the first person to mention a problem with rocksteady. I haven’t noticed a lot of issues but I haven’t shot a lot of regular speed, I’m often in 4k60 or timelapsing. MORE TESTING NEEDS TO BE DONE!
Great vid Dunna. What were you doing at KC arena that day? I live right near there and that was my hockey club’s home arena. I still play men’s league there every week (pre Covid days). It’s always cool to see a good, local Edmonton UA-camr.
I mean. I know I asked the question but shish. You put me on the spot.....seriously though, excellent explanation. After all this time I understand the comparison between shutter speed and frame rate.
Inshore Kayak fishing. Shopping for an action cam to capture a fighting Red on hook in slow motion. Will I need a polarizer filter, ND filter or combo?
Searching for ND filters for my OSMO, throw on your video and immediately recognize the city in the first time lapse but it's obviously running by too fast to be sure. Then you shoot the majority of the rest in front of KC Twin Arenas! haha Small world man. Thanks for the review of these, cheers!
Man how do you make the footage look crisp though, I feel like my videos look a lil too pixelated, not sure if it's my editor or I'm doing something wrong
is the one filter thats sits in the middle for overcast or sunny day... we have the same weather as you in Finland.. I I dont really want to spend 200 euros at the moment for the set
I bought a cinematographer collection and CP too. I used it during the wedding and riding a car with my hand out of the window ;) Because of lack of money, it will be my vlogging camera :D Do You know if some USB-C to 3,5 mm adapter work with some Rode Mics?
I think it’s actually a solid vlogging Camera! I haven’t been able to sort out the audio question yet. There are so many videos and articles being upset that they didn’t release an audio adapter right when it was released that I can’t find info on whether they have that now or not.
Steve here! I don't sound that snarky when I ask a question... ok, maybe I do. So do you put the clear DJI cap back on, when you're not outside or do you just leave it off (unless you need the protection)? It would be nice if they put a piece of clear glass to use with the magnet so you can do a night ride.
I think my impression might have been a bit exaggerated 😂 They have a straight up polarizing filter you could use for that, but honestly, I just take off the Nd and shoot it with the lens exposed and it works great! Just don’t try to take it in the water like that.
Sup Dunna, 2 questions. #1, what did you use to vlog this one? #2, can you get pulled over for this? Lol I was thinking of doing this but worried about getting pulled over. I live in Toronto
Hey! I used the Sony a6400 and the 18-105 f4. And I don’t really know. I got a good solid look from a cop that I pulled up next to while filming this. They eyed up the camera on the hood for a second but didn’t pull me over. Maybe they had more important stuff to do 🤷🏻♂️
Hey guys, I am curious and cant seem to find an answer for this question. Most rules are for FF. So does the 180 degree rule adhere to apsc or does the crop factor need to be factored in. I ask this because when taking a rule for stills such as the reciprocal rule (min shutter is 1/focal length to prevent camera shake) the crop factor does need to be applied. Cheers
I suggest getting this geni.us/actioncambase and then you can screw on a normal baseplate or 1/4” tripod screw into the bottom. Then you can use it with a gorilla pod or regular tripod. I also use it with the suction cup (link is in the description). Hope that helps!
Dunna! Buddy! Take it from someone who lost a GoPro Silver 4 after attaching it to my Jeep...and recovering it because of some honest hikers. Leash that thing down in addition to the suction cup. It will come off at some point. Also, if it comes off and strikes another car, cyclist, or pedestrian, it could cause a wreck or bodily harm. That being said, I got some cool video from the Million Dollar Highway in Colorado and also an offload trail...and even some cool video of the person who found my camera and left it in an obvious place for me. EVEN BETTER later that night I saw some hikers at a restaurant an hour away from the trail that I recognized driving past earlier and I asked them if they were the ones who found it?! They were! So I bought their tacos and beers. Cheers mate!
They don’t suggest these for underwater. I don’t think they hold the seal and they say something about underwater exposure being different in the information. Might be worth reaching out to PolarPro though.
Polar Pro products are all top notch, and I understand this is a sponsored video, but ND filters mess up the Rock Steady image stabilization on the Osmo Action.
Dunna Did It I believe Dji’s Rock Steady stabilization uses the shutter speed to assist with its stabilizing. I have experimented with and without ND filters. If I manually control the shutter speed I get a lot of jittery stuff happening in my footage. I mostly just leave the Osmo Action in auto mode and set a max iso of 1600. I recently tried using my ND filter while still leaving the Osmo Action in auto mode. It helped keep the shutter speed a little slower by fooling the camera. Only problem was it shot the iso a little higher than I would have liked. I may try setting the iso max much lower and see how that works.
@@dunnadidit yea it definitelywas! It was from a "yi 4k" action cam and it was set to 120fps. The tether works definitely. Using a magnet is slightly better for lower shots.
Hi Dunna! I just found this video...I want an action camera but not really for extreme sports...maybe some biking! but more for unique angles or sometimes for POV angles (using a headband attachment for example) and my "vintage" gopro hero 3 black is not cutting it anymore! Of course i have good cameras such as a Canon 90D or a sony a6400 but I want something really compact that is like a everyday camera-reliable, stable, no overheating (I won't record in 4k for hours! no but a few minutes at a time maybe) that i can use as a C camera etc...so I was thinking maybe the Osmo action (now with the latest firmware it has hyperlapse and the LCD screen lag has been improved I think) or the GoPro hero 8 (I don't care about the 7 at all)...I would like to get semi-cinematic shots that I can combine with footage from other cameras so dewarp or linear angles is a must and good stabilization. Another reviewer complained that the Osmo looks artificially oversharpened and that there is no setting to lower the sharpening intensity whereas the GoPro hero 8 has a setting to lower it...but some early reviews (hopefully only a few) of the hero 8 complain about overheating/lockups/corrupted files already...I was hoping the Hero 8 fixed the problems the 7 had (which I bought and returned last year)...what would you recommend? Just tell it like it is! Pls! thanks so much!
Unfortunately I haven’t had the chance to use the hero 8 yet, but I returned the hero 7 almost immediately and I’m quite happy with the osmo action. All that said, I don’t use it much just because it doesn’t fit my style and workflow, but regardless, I think the osmo action would still be my choice!
@@dunnadidit hey hey...how is Edmonton is it? Thanks for sharing your knowledge man! I kept my a6400 and I got the 18-105mm f4 lens..totally worth it. I confess that I purchased the Canon 90D in a moment of weakness! but I also like it a lot...now I want to get a niche camera...I was set to get a gopro hero 8 new ($529 Cdn plus tax!) but there is a chance I could get a gently used Osmo Action here in Toronto for $400 flat...seems like a good option...I just dont want the "best" camera for now...until the next one gets released! I will go check out the Osmo carefully...thanks so much!
Edmonton is Cold haha! But good! I totally hear you on wanting to get whatever is best now. I always find it tough to find that balance of value and getting the latest and greatest! But the best thing right now is that all the cameras being released are pretty fantastic!
@@dunnadidit BRRRR....no more one-wheelie ( or whatever that black wizardy thingy is called!) for you mister! I have enough trouble just crossing the street on foot! anyway... I don't expect either the Osmo or the GP 8 to compete with a DSLR but I would like a camera that I can have with me all times and get usable shots-from timelapses-day and night to some POV, to some general establishing shots-so it has to have linear mode so that I can use the footage in longer videos shot with DSLRs....both Osmo and GP8 do this-not the 7 (not in 4k at least) and a camera that is reliable and stable-no lockups/overheating etc...If I can get a Osmo "previously enjoyed" (aye caramba! English can be cute sometimes!) for much lower than a new Go PRo 8 I may go for that. I hope I won't be missing much or anything. Thanks and get ready for a great Canadian Winter!
Please address something that most of the nd filter reviewers do not. What do you do about the fact that using lower shutter speeds, has an effect on the digital stabilization, as they rely on the shutter speed for stabilization. Thanks.
Is the lens cover also a a filter? In the videos I see the the lens cover being removed, so the filter is also a lens cover. The filters are still way too small to also act as lens cover. Simple question: Where do I put the filters on the camera? Is there some way that the lens cap is removed and the filters are put on a tiny lens UNDER the lens cover? It’s basic for you but it’s frustrating for me because I don’t how the lens is working. Appreciate the help.
*What other cool ideas would you use the PolarPro ND filters for!?*
grow room timelapses
OOH that would probably look very cool!
I try time-lapse and it's really good 💖
hey boss gotta question for you - have you tried the circular polarizer from polarpro - if so whats your thoughts on it.
Would These fit the action 4
Wow dude this video is on fire🔥.
One of my favorite I ever seen on UA-cam keep sharing video dude and more videos and tutorials ❤️.
This was a really good explanation of how ND filters can really change what you're shooting I liked it!
For my right now I would use the heck out of the for timelapses myself and for the documentary I'm shooting.
I'm shooting a doc about another person from my town who is rolling a 230 pound tire around that says "Cancer sucks" to raise awareness around cancer research, make connections with others in our community, and show a different way to get your workout on and stay fit. Sticking an action cam on his head with a ND filter to keep the light looking great while he rolls the tire would just take our project to the next level.
Thanks for the kind words! That’s a great idea to slap one on your tire roller!
Good one bud! Need to really look into the DJI action and I like the blur from the time lapse. 🤙🏻🤘🏻
It’s a super solid little action cam!
This was very nicely bound together. Thanks for the education here! :D
Thanks for watching!
Thank you bro for all the tips and tricks. Stay safe bro.
Hey man, thanks for another informative video. Just a question, is the camera still waterproof when using the ND filters? Feels like the magnetic connection would ruin it, unless it’s actually waterproof even w/o the protective lens all together.
Thanks for the info on ND filters 👍
This is great stuff Dunna, I am learning new things every day. So Dunna if I was shooting at night should I delay the shutter speed and put on like an N32 filter, or would I have to increase the ISO. I wish I could get a chart with all these settings, would make my life easier 😜🤪
ya the motion blur for timelapse make them look real nice
Nice! I’m glad you agree!
I have Freewell ND filters and they do come in handy for the Osmo Action. Now if they could just fix the issues when shooting in 4k at 24 fps and 1/50th shutter speed. Man it can look horrible as it tries to implement Rock Steady at those settings. Nice time lapse!
Interesting! You’re not the first person to mention a problem with rocksteady. I haven’t noticed a lot of issues but I haven’t shot a lot of regular speed, I’m often in 4k60 or timelapsing. MORE TESTING NEEDS TO BE DONE!
Digging those sunglasses
Yeeessssss! I got a shout out in another Dunna vid! Cheers to all the Steve’s out there! ...oh, and ya cool NDs of course. 🤷♂️
This video is actually brought to you by Steve’s... sorry PolarPro
Great vid Dunna. What were you doing at KC arena that day? I live right near there and that was my hockey club’s home arena. I still play men’s league there every week (pre Covid days). It’s always cool to see a good, local Edmonton UA-camr.
My business Resonate Music is right around the corner there! So I was probably at work haha. 😁 thanks for the kind words!
Deadmonton HAHAHA, the saddest part is that this is what the summers look like in this place. good video though man keep it up very helpful..
I mean. I know I asked the question but shish. You put me on the spot.....seriously though, excellent explanation. After all this time I understand the comparison between shutter speed and frame rate.
Inshore Kayak fishing. Shopping for an action cam to capture a fighting Red on hook in slow motion. Will I need a polarizer filter, ND filter or combo?
Searching for ND filters for my OSMO, throw on your video and immediately recognize the city in the first time lapse but it's obviously running by too fast to be sure. Then you shoot the majority of the rest in front of KC Twin Arenas! haha Small world man. Thanks for the review of these, cheers!
Haha nice!!
What number ND would you recommend for a lightly overcast day?
I used that suction cup the whole time I was in Iceland last year. It is so secure. Lol
Nice!!
Man how do you make the footage look crisp though, I feel like my videos look a lil too pixelated, not sure if it's my editor or I'm doing something wrong
Nice and we’ll explained. Going to upgrade my action cam soon.. go pro 7 or osmo action?
Or GoPro fusion 360 lol thinking of that one too
I returned the hero 7 and quite enjoy the osmo action so I’d say osmo if it was up to me!
Dunna Did It yea I hear they freeze up sometime and can be unreliable.
is the one filter thats sits in the middle for overcast or sunny day... we have the same weather as you in Finland.. I I dont really want to spend 200 euros at the moment for the set
I bought a cinematographer collection and CP too. I used it during the wedding and riding a car with my hand out of the window ;) Because of lack of money, it will be my vlogging camera :D Do You know if some USB-C to 3,5 mm adapter work with some Rode Mics?
I think it’s actually a solid vlogging Camera! I haven’t been able to sort out the audio question yet. There are so many videos and articles being upset that they didn’t release an audio adapter right when it was released that I can’t find info on whether they have that now or not.
Steve here! I don't sound that snarky when I ask a question... ok, maybe I do. So do you put the clear DJI cap back on, when you're not outside or do you just leave it off (unless you need the protection)? It would be nice if they put a piece of clear glass to use with the magnet so you can do a night ride.
I think my impression might have been a bit exaggerated 😂
They have a straight up polarizing filter you could use for that, but honestly, I just take off the Nd and shoot it with the lens exposed and it works great! Just don’t try to take it in the water like that.
Too snarky Steve... 😂😂😂
I tie a string to the camera and the car wiper. If it becomes unstuck at least it stays with you and does not fly away,
they are pictures or fast video? thanks for answer
Good picks
Thanks so much!
are you having any issues color grading this? my footage looks like absolute shit once i do a base color correction
Sup Dunna, 2 questions. #1, what did you use to vlog this one? #2, can you get pulled over for this? Lol I was thinking of doing this but worried about getting pulled over. I live in Toronto
Hey! I used the Sony a6400 and the 18-105 f4.
And I don’t really know. I got a good solid look from a cop that I pulled up next to while filming this. They eyed up the camera on the hood for a second but didn’t pull me over. Maybe they had more important stuff to do 🤷🏻♂️
Hey guys, I am curious and cant seem to find an answer for this question. Most rules are for FF. So does the 180 degree rule adhere to apsc or does the crop factor need to be factored in. I ask this because when taking a rule for stills such as the reciprocal rule (min shutter is 1/focal length to prevent camera shake) the crop factor does need to be applied. Cheers
Hey! Crop factor doesn’t play in this situation. No matter the sensor size, the 180° shutter speed “rule” is still the same.
@@dunnadidit Cheers my man. Great to learn something new. Have a great one
What tripods/monopods do you use for your Osmo Action? I just got one and want to buy a good one for it.
I suggest getting this geni.us/actioncambase and then you can screw on a normal baseplate or 1/4” tripod screw into the bottom. Then you can use it with a gorilla pod or regular tripod. I also use it with the suction cup (link is in the description).
Hope that helps!
is the camera still 100% waterproof with the filter?
Will these filters work under water? Or if not used, does it make lens open and not waterproof?
They don’t recommend it for underwater in the literature that comes with it.
Dunna! Buddy! Take it from someone who lost a GoPro Silver 4 after attaching it to my Jeep...and recovering it because of some honest hikers. Leash that thing down in addition to the suction cup. It will come off at some point. Also, if it comes off and strikes another car, cyclist, or pedestrian, it could cause a wreck or bodily harm. That being said, I got some cool video from the Million Dollar Highway in Colorado and also an offload trail...and even some cool video of the person who found my camera and left it in an obvious place for me. EVEN BETTER later that night I saw some hikers at a restaurant an hour away from the trail that I recognized driving past earlier and I asked them if they were the ones who found it?! They were! So I bought their tacos and beers. Cheers mate!
Good call! Hitting up amazon now! That’s crazy about the hikers!
Do u have any idea about diving will they help me or which one would help me under 50mt water
They don’t suggest these for underwater. I don’t think they hold the seal and they say something about underwater exposure being different in the information. Might be worth reaching out to PolarPro though.
@@dunnadiditi. Understand than if i use both with housing which would u think wpulf be better down
I don't understand.
Polar Pro products are all top notch, and I understand this is a sponsored video, but ND filters mess up the Rock Steady image stabilization on the Osmo Action.
You’re not the first person to mention that... why is that, something about the shutter speed?
Dunna Did It I believe Dji’s Rock Steady stabilization uses the shutter speed to assist with its stabilizing. I have experimented with and without ND filters. If I manually control the shutter speed I get a lot of jittery stuff happening in my footage. I mostly just leave the Osmo Action in auto mode and set a max iso of 1600. I recently tried using my ND filter while still leaving the Osmo Action in auto mode. It helped keep the shutter speed a little slower by fooling the camera. Only problem was it shot the iso a little higher than I would have liked. I may try setting the iso max much lower and see how that works.
That suction cup doesnt work as well in winter. You also need a cable tethering system set up. Mine fell off and i got video of it falling off. Lol.
A couple people have mentioned the tether. Definitely looking into it! I bet that video was fun to watch back.
@@dunnadidit yea it definitelywas! It was from a "yi 4k" action cam and it was set to 120fps. The tether works definitely. Using a magnet is slightly better for lower shots.
whats the math to calculate the nd filter f stop, like between 1/50 and 1/1600 there are 6 fstops?
Theres 5 stops difference between 1/50 and 1/1600... every doubling is a stop (so 1/100, 1/200, 1/400, 1/800, 1/1600)
Hi Dunna! I just found this video...I want an action camera but not really for extreme sports...maybe some biking! but more for unique angles or sometimes for POV angles (using a headband attachment for example) and my "vintage" gopro hero 3 black is not cutting it anymore! Of course i have good cameras such as a Canon 90D or a sony a6400 but I want something really compact that is like a everyday camera-reliable, stable, no overheating (I won't record in 4k for hours! no but a few minutes at a time maybe) that i can use as a C camera etc...so I was thinking maybe the Osmo action (now with the latest firmware it has hyperlapse and the LCD screen lag has been improved I think) or the GoPro hero 8 (I don't care about the 7 at all)...I would like to get semi-cinematic shots that I can combine with footage from other cameras so dewarp or linear angles is a must and good stabilization. Another reviewer complained that the Osmo looks artificially oversharpened and that there is no setting to lower the sharpening intensity whereas the GoPro hero 8 has a setting to lower it...but some early reviews (hopefully only a few) of the hero 8 complain about overheating/lockups/corrupted files already...I was hoping the Hero 8 fixed the problems the 7 had (which I bought and returned last year)...what would you recommend? Just tell it like it is! Pls!
thanks so much!
Unfortunately I haven’t had the chance to use the hero 8 yet, but I returned the hero 7 almost immediately and I’m quite happy with the osmo action. All that said, I don’t use it much just because it doesn’t fit my style and workflow, but regardless, I think the osmo action would still be my choice!
@@dunnadidit hey hey...how is Edmonton is it? Thanks for sharing your knowledge man! I kept my a6400 and I got the 18-105mm f4 lens..totally worth it. I confess that I purchased the Canon 90D in a moment of weakness! but I also like it a lot...now I want to get a niche camera...I was set to get a gopro hero 8 new ($529 Cdn plus tax!) but there is a chance I could get a gently used Osmo Action here in Toronto for $400 flat...seems like a good option...I just dont want the "best" camera for now...until the next one gets released! I will go check out the Osmo carefully...thanks so much!
@@dunnadidit I meant to say I WANT the Best action camera for now...til the next best one gets released in a few months!
Edmonton is Cold haha! But good! I totally hear you on wanting to get whatever is best now. I always find it tough to find that balance of value and getting the latest and greatest! But the best thing right now is that all the cameras being released are pretty fantastic!
@@dunnadidit BRRRR....no more one-wheelie ( or whatever that black wizardy thingy is called!) for you mister! I have enough trouble just crossing the street on foot! anyway... I don't expect either the Osmo or the GP 8 to compete with a DSLR but I would like a camera that I can have with me all times and get usable shots-from timelapses-day and night to some POV, to some general establishing shots-so it has to have linear mode so that I can use the footage in longer videos shot with DSLRs....both Osmo and GP8 do this-not the 7 (not in 4k at least) and a camera that is reliable and stable-no lockups/overheating etc...If I can get a Osmo "previously enjoyed" (aye caramba! English can be cute sometimes!) for much lower than a new Go PRo 8 I may go for that. I hope I won't be missing much or anything. Thanks and get ready for a great Canadian Winter!
Please address something that most of the nd filter reviewers do not. What do you do about the fact that using lower shutter speeds, has an effect on the digital stabilization, as they rely on the shutter speed for stabilization. Thanks.
I haven’t really noticed a difference! I’ll have to do some tests and see what I come up with!
@@dunnadidit did u test it? how does it affect stabilization?
Can I shoot 24 frame without nd filter with auto mode
Yup! It cranks up the shutter speed to do that.
I thought those were makeup palettes, I was so confused for a second 😂😂😂 great video Dunna!
Coming in 2020, “PolarPro Neutral Density Shimmer”. 💄
@@dunnadidit hahahahaha 😂 maybe a gingerbread holiday edition too!
Great vid, but i prefer dji’s own ND filters... much better with screwing rather the magnetic ND filters... peace
I agree. Just ordered direct from DJI and they are perfect.
Help! Bought filters for Osmo Action. The filters seem to be too small to cover the lens. T
Is the lens cover also a a filter? In the videos I see the the lens cover being removed, so the filter is also a lens cover. The filters are still way too small to also act as lens cover. Simple question: Where do I put the filters on the camera? Is there some way that the lens cap is removed and the filters are put on a tiny lens UNDER the lens cover? It’s basic for you but it’s frustrating for me because I don’t how the lens is working. Appreciate the help.
Thanks.
What are your thoughts on Nd filters affecting stabilization?
Just answered your other comment 😉
is dunna copying me ? just tried the driving timelapse in my video a few day ago haha
Haha great minds think alike I guess!
😍
noice
you have a special cable for mounting your action cam like that
Why isnt anyone talking about ND Filters making Rocksteady very jittery 🤔
How do you feel about the Osmo video matching your sony footage?
Bro.... You really should put a tether on that camera.
Hahaha, "Steve".
That guy!
I don't have a dji anything cuz they're all expensive
I hear you, gear ain’t cheap!
The magnets are not a feature from what i've read.
Osmo action?? Never heard of it. GoPro user here ❤🧡💛💚💙💜
Definitely check out some of polarpro’s stuff for the GoPro as well!!
if you use an ND for better motion blur, you unfortunately lose Rocksteady
I've heard that too! Haven't done any testing yet though.