Worst Cadillac Ever? My 1986 Cadillac Cimarron V-6 Has Arrived!

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  • @robb5516
    @robb5516 Рік тому +9

    My 85 year old next door neighbor bought one trading in her DeVille. For 3 months I thought it was a Chevy. When she told me it was a Cadillac I thought she went senile. When she showed me the Cadillac nameplate I could hardly hold back the laughter. She dumped it in 6 months for a new DeVille.

  • @Steverinomeister
    @Steverinomeister Рік тому +66

    I’m old enough to remember when these showed up on the lots. I could not believe how expensive they were and I pondered sadly the direction Cadillac was heading. I would love to have a nice one like this now.

    • @jasoncarpp7742
      @jasoncarpp7742 Рік тому +6

      Right? I'm old enough to remember a lot of cars of the time. I remember the Cadillac Cimarron. I didn't know at first what to make of it. I would love to have driven the car. Never mind what's been said about it. I remember a lot of cars that were criticised for various reasons, some may have been justified, others, unjustified.

    • @flinch622
      @flinch622 Рік тому +6

      Not worth it. Like corvettes, the markup on all parts cadillac is stupid. Need a similarly styled piece of junk? Get a chevy celebrity.

    • @rockets4kids
      @rockets4kids Рік тому +1

      I wonder what examples like this are going for these days.

    • @sharkinstx
      @sharkinstx Рік тому

      Yep. I knew a couple of folks that owned them. One was one of the later ones with the longer front sheet metal. It was yellow. This guy later owned an Allante.

    • @Steverinomeister
      @Steverinomeister Рік тому +2

      @@flinch622 yes the car itself is not a great car but the value to guys like me is the state of reverie when I’m around these cars. I feel like a teenager again.

  • @ryanc4199
    @ryanc4199 Рік тому +16

    This brings back memories! My grandparents had a new 1988 Cimarron with the cloth seats and manual transmission. I got to drive it all the time when I was in high school. I loved driving it (but then again, I hadn't driven very many cars by that time). The whole family thought it such a fancy car. lol

  • @jeffshoup5742
    @jeffshoup5742 Рік тому +29

    My senior year of high school my folks bought a new 1983 Cavalier CL two tone brown with the same, all cloth seats. It was fully equipped with every option you could get on a Chevy. It was a great driver, quiet, reliable and quite comfortable on long drives. Don't let the naysayers rain on this fantastic addition to the collection. Can't wait to see all the work you'll be doing to it!

    • @boataxe4605
      @boataxe4605 Рік тому +7

      Nobody is ripping on Cavaliers, they were great cars. We are ripping on GM for trying to pass them off as Cadillacs.

    • @Andyface79
      @Andyface79 Рік тому +1

      @@boataxe4605 This.

    • @johnlandacre767
      @johnlandacre767 Рік тому +1

      It probably wasn’t a good decision to try to make a Chevy into a Cadillac, but it’s now history. If it was a mistake, it wasn’t the first one GM made in this era, nor the last. Probably many more to come, but hey, the Cavalier was pretty popular in its day. Anyway, Adam, you wanted a Cimarron, and you found a nice one. Congratulations.

    • @RichM3000
      @RichM3000 Рік тому +3

      That's part of the problem Cadillac had with it. You could buy the Chevy version with all the options and still be way under the Cadillac pricing.
      The rest of the problem was that a Cavalier was never going to be anything like what people expected in a Cadillac. Sorry, but the Cavalier was not a great car. It has poor fit and finish. After a couple of years, it would squeak and rattle. Maybe it was fine as a budget compact car for the era if you wanted to buy American, but that's all it had to offer. It was a poor platform for anything with a Cadillac crest.

    • @billolsen4360
      @billolsen4360 Рік тому

      About that same time, I had a roommate who bought a Cavalier convertible. I got to use it on business when my Camaro was in the shop and it was a well-constructed unit, quiet for a convertible is you put all the windows up.

  • @valengreymoon5623
    @valengreymoon5623 Рік тому +46

    I wonder if it's possible to have those bumper fillers 3-D printed.

    • @HAL-dm1eh
      @HAL-dm1eh Рік тому +4

      What a good idea!

    • @paulparoma
      @paulparoma Рік тому +1

      Probably not. Need to wait until 4-D printing becomes commonplace.

    • @patrickmasterson3848
      @patrickmasterson3848 Рік тому +6

      I've seen 3D printed filler panels for a similar year olds 98 -- maybe someone will let you borrow a good filler panel for scanning!

    • @HAL-dm1eh
      @HAL-dm1eh Рік тому +4

      @@paulparoma With the way those missing panels look, I'd say "waiting" isn't an option. Anything would be better than nothing.

    • @paulparoma
      @paulparoma Рік тому

      @@HAL-dm1eh I was being facetious, but that's OK.

  • @davidphillips5395
    @davidphillips5395 Рік тому +7

    So you wanted a Cimarron story, huh? I was wrenching at Roseburg Motor Company here in Oregon.
    Buick, Pontiac, Cadillac, AMC, Jeep and Renault. Never lacked for something different to work on.
    Anyway, customer brought in his 1982, 1.8 liter with a "lack of power" complaint ... imagine. I checked things over and discovered the timing to be 3 degrees late. Interestingly, to set the timing, you had to hold the engine at like 2500 RPM and adjust to spec. The distributor was buried deep down on the rear side and up against the firewall. It was a real peach to get to the hold-down / adjustment bolt.
    So, propped the throttle to the required RPM, twisted myself into this hole with one hand and holding the timing light with the other. Adjusted the distributor as required.
    As I was extricating myself from the back of the engine, I knocked the main coil lead off of the HEI coil ... at 2500 RPM. It grabbed me and I couldn't let go until the engine wound down to a stop. Standing there in a bit of a daze, my co-worker buddy came over. He realized what had happened. Trying not to laugh, he just looked at me and said, "Gee Dave, your eyes sure are blue!"

  • @glenesis
    @glenesis Рік тому +1

    That's amazing. I'm jealous. I owned one with the rally suspension, the 2.8L V6, and alloy rims, in black cherry metallic flake.
    It was a total beast. I could make it dance. It could catch air and land beautifully. It made it to 186,000mi over 13 years, and then the cooling and engine just disintegrated. Enjoy! It was the best car I ever owned. I can't believe it has the original Eagle GT tires!!

  • @MrJayrock620
    @MrJayrock620 Рік тому +8

    I still remember the first time I saw one of these growing up. All I could think was “who the f put Cadillac badges on a Cavalier?” Turned out it was GM all along LOL

  • @ddellwo
    @ddellwo Рік тому +14

    One of my marketing projects in college was a proposed re-launch of the Cimarron and how we would try to start selling more of the dang things! I think my professor’s comment was something along the lines of, “You might have bitten off more than you can chew!”
    😂

    • @xFactoryUSA
      @xFactoryUSA Рік тому +1

      If VW turned the Jetta into a Bentley gas saver sedan, we would equally throw up in our mouths these days.

    • @RichM3000
      @RichM3000 Рік тому +2

      @@xFactoryUSA Or if Chrysler turned a LeBaron into a Maserati around the same era.. Oh, never mind.

  • @thebestisyettocome4114
    @thebestisyettocome4114 Рік тому +6

    Had 1987 for my wife. The dealership never called it a Cadillac. It was made for Cadillac as they liked to say..
    Enjoy yours.
    Mr. Hahn
    Florida

  • @timbullough3513
    @timbullough3513 Рік тому +3

    Makes the Lincoln Versailles version of the Ford Granada look downright distinctive. That said I like it. Peak J car.

  • @icsamerica
    @icsamerica Рік тому +126

    Just becasue we can doesn't mean we should.

    • @Mythicregard
      @Mythicregard Рік тому +1

      Here's to your point in song: ua-cam.com/video/XbNgt8jh9io/v-deo.html

    • @ZEZERBING
      @ZEZERBING Рік тому

      Sounds like sex with my ex.

    • @joshuagibson2520
      @joshuagibson2520 Рік тому +9

      Same for lane assist, heated seats, and the plethora of electronics they pack into modern cars.

    • @markbehr88
      @markbehr88 Рік тому +3

      That is funny.

    • @icsamerica
      @icsamerica Рік тому +3

      @@joshuagibson2520 heated seats? 'Ya been up north much?

  • @kippaseo8027
    @kippaseo8027 Рік тому +5

    How awesome! I'm 44 and remember when these were quite popular among the Jewish condo crowhere I grew up in Boca. I would love to come across one just to see it.

    • @YOUNGESTINCHARGE22
      @YOUNGESTINCHARGE22 8 місяців тому

      I'm 48 and remember vividly and didn't like them then and definitely not now lol

  • @Earcandy73
    @Earcandy73 Рік тому +9

    Nice to see the AM stereo radio! You should scan the dial to see if anyone in your are is broadcasting in the C-QUAM format.

  • @robertmurphy5624
    @robertmurphy5624 Рік тому +19

    I owned a used 1984 Cimarron purchased from a Cadillac dealer who had been forced to re-build the motor after a crack in the (2-liter throttle-body) head ruined it for the original owner. Slow with the automatic, but the fuel mileage was good with the lock-up torque converter. I've never seen a stick-shift Cimarron in real life! I'm sure the dealer just wanted rid of the car. It was no BMW, but a lot nicer than any Cavalier. I admire this purchase! -RDM

  • @christopherkraft1327
    @christopherkraft1327 Рік тому +40

    Hey Adam, by 1986 most of the kinks had been worked out!! A neighbor of mine, an older widow, traded in her 72 Coupe de Ville for a new 86 Cimarron with the V6. It was much easier for her to drive the smaller car!!! 👍👍🙂

    • @dmandman9
      @dmandman9 Рік тому +6

      All the kinks except it still looked almost JUST LIKE the cavalier 😅

    • @andrewdonohue1853
      @andrewdonohue1853 Рік тому +5

      @@dmandman9 it was a cavalier LOL. the cavalier was a decent car but a bad Cadillac

    • @billolsen4360
      @billolsen4360 Рік тому +2

      She was the Cimarron's target-market, GM just didn't know it yet.

    • @dmandman9
      @dmandman9 Рік тому

      @@billolsen4360 come to think of it, everyone I saw with one was just as old as the other Cadillac owners . Believe it or not, the younger Cadillac owners seemed more attracted to the sedan de Ville that the Cimmaron

    • @TheOzthewiz
      @TheOzthewiz 11 місяців тому

      I wonder why it was discontinued in '88, could it be that buyers got sick of FAKE Cadillacs?

  • @rbcrain2469
    @rbcrain2469 Рік тому +7

    The right hand turn signal works, thanks to your friend

  • @kurtb3606
    @kurtb3606 Рік тому +4

    What a time capsule, incredible low miles and pristine condition. Great addition to the fleet!

  • @Trance88
    @Trance88 Рік тому +8

    The Cimarron is the BEST looking 80's J car. Caddy did a good job with what they had to work with, in my opinion.

  • @wilsixone
    @wilsixone Рік тому +15

    I always thought these both Cavaliers and Cimmarons were good basic, uncomplicated cars for what they were. Nice find Mr. Adam!

    • @Andyface79
      @Andyface79 Рік тому +4

      Oh they were. It's just that the cars the Cimmaron was supposed to compete against were miles nicer and less basic cars. The idea was very sound, the execution was very lacking

    • @Bruehoyt
      @Bruehoyt Рік тому +3

      What Andyface79 said - and the Cimmaron was priced WAY higher than basic cars. 1982 base cavalier $7,328 1982 base cimmaron $12,131 (about one and a half times the price of the cavalier for basically the same car)

    • @matthewq4b
      @matthewq4b Рік тому +1

      The were not good basic cars in this era . The were garbage. Bothe K car and the Tempo/Topaz were better vehicles. And the Cimarron was a trash pile with the worst reliability of ANY vehicle in the era.

    • @TheOzthewiz
      @TheOzthewiz 11 місяців тому

      @@Bruehoyt Putting "lipstick on a pig" might fool SOME people some of the time. LOL

    • @lohenriksson9698
      @lohenriksson9698 10 місяців тому +1

      @@Andyface79 Yea when you are coming for the German small luxury segment you have to come proper, not with a rebadged chevy.

  • @johnwinter9722
    @johnwinter9722 Рік тому +12

    I had an ‘84 top of the line Cavalier. I thought it was a 2.0 liter 4, but could have been 1.8. It got us there. Over the six years we owned it, the Cavalier provided us with 100% bulletproof performance. Like plugging in a refrigerator. No drama, just everyday get you to where you wanted to go. I wondered about the Cimarron and now have a better understanding of them. Many similarities. Mine was about the same color.

    • @fernandorocha8459
      @fernandorocha8459 Рік тому +1

      Very beautiful this car. Cadillac Cimarron is luxuous, confortable, solid and great space interior. 2.8 V6 is great and nice engine

    • @jonathannagela2130
      @jonathannagela2130 Рік тому

      @@fernandorocha8459 my mom had a cavalier, it was not so great and had a few issues but did last the full 6 years like yours did. My lexus is over 20 years old and in great shape.

    • @TheOzthewiz
      @TheOzthewiz 11 місяців тому

      @@jonathannagela2130 Please, don't disrespect a Lexus by comparing it to a Cavalier!

    • @az.................
      @az................. 3 місяці тому

      The carbureted 1.8L was so bad it was replaced after the first year.

  • @stephenmoxley3004
    @stephenmoxley3004 Рік тому +30

    I still can't understand why Cadillac went cheap on their bumper fillers? It seems like all of them are rotten, or missing. What a stupid design.

    • @christopherdematteo8645
      @christopherdematteo8645 Рік тому

      Bumper fillers? They want world-class status with a dead rear axle. Pathetic. Shareholders: 1, Customers: 0.
      Why would anyone give this aberration 5 mins' time?

    • @zillsburyy1
      @zillsburyy1 Рік тому +1

      its a GM product..

    • @iluvcamaros1912
      @iluvcamaros1912 Рік тому +1

      @@christopherdematteo8645 Because it's infamous. It's fascinating to see one up close in like-new condition. Very little written about this car actually goes into detail about what it was like to sit inside one and drive it. Just a bunch of hyperbole about it being a Cadillac Cavalier.

    • @TheOzthewiz
      @TheOzthewiz 11 місяців тому

      ​@@christopherdematteo8645 Using a Cavalier to gain "World Status"? Are you F**king kidding me?

  • @occa4503
    @occa4503 Рік тому +1

    I worked at a car wash in college in Columbus, OH in the late 80's. We called it a Cavillac. We laughed at it and the people who drove it. The ultimate dorkmobile.

  • @tomdelisle8955
    @tomdelisle8955 Рік тому +6

    Tony's video is worth watching for the drive on back roads.

  • @troynov1965
    @troynov1965 Рік тому +2

    I graduated High School in 84 and took body shop as a 2 hour vocational class in my Jr and Sr year. Out of high school I got a job at a GM dealership. I am very familiar with 80s GM cars. I can also testify that the quality of fit , finish and engineering on GM cars from that era is really bad. When they switched over to all FWD platform it was even worse. Esp the J cars.
    You could not give me a GM FWD drive car from this era. I would keep the miles on that "Caddy" as low as I could because once it starts having problems from miles and everyday wear and tear it will just snowball. Make sure the CV boots are in good shape as they will wear out very fast if any dirt, grime gets in them. If they start to wear they will let you know ( clack clack clack noise will drive you nuts ). Make sure that automatic has good fluid and does not get low as they are prone to failure ( they do not need any help ). You do not want to change/repair a trans on a GM FWD drive from that era , trust me. The front axles tend to wear out and give problems as well. They are not that easy to change.
    Oh and be careful polishing and buffing that paint , the paint thickness on them ( 80s GM cars ) is very thin. The hood , top and trunk lids are very prone to sun damage and fading so keep it inside as much as you can. The interiors do not fare much better from prolonged time in the sun and heat.
    You are likely correct on the 2 cylinder being a injector issue ,that was a common problem on them.
    Its been a very long time since I seen one of these in any kind of decent shape and the factory paint has not just dissolved. The survival rate on these cant be good.
    Not a car I would go out of my way to own or drive but Im glad you like it and saving it for future generations. Good or bad its nice to see it if not just for the nostalgia effect it has for me.

  • @stevejacobs8375
    @stevejacobs8375 Рік тому +2

    I like that, real stitching on the door panels. Man Cadillac was spending some real money the only thing is they weren't spending it where they should have.

  • @jeffsmith846
    @jeffsmith846 Рік тому +55

    Nice looking car. People will always trash talk something that isn't main stream. I think that even today it would make a good car for running around town as it is easy to park, has decent room and a nice sized trunk. It would get good gas mileage even by today's standards. Hope you enjoy it and I think it makes a great addition to your collection.

    • @Aforementioned
      @Aforementioned Рік тому +9

      With the V6 and 3-speed mileage is gonna be middling by any standards...especially around town.

    • @xFactoryUSA
      @xFactoryUSA Рік тому +6

      I wouldn't let my dog drive this, yack. If Volkswagen made a Bentley sedan out of the Jetta, that's the equivalent of what's going on here,

    • @stevevarholy2011
      @stevevarholy2011 Рік тому +2

      @@Aforementioned 22-24 around town. Better than many cars in that period.

    • @BuzzLOLOL
      @BuzzLOLOL Рік тому +4

      These cars are certainly "mainstream"... but troubled...

    • @koolkeiths
      @koolkeiths Рік тому +5

      Lol. It’s a cavalier. JUNK

  • @dlvh007
    @dlvh007 Рік тому +29

    Hi Adam, never really liked these Cimarrons back in the day, as they were really nothing more than a gussied up Cavalier early on, but your other video describing how they came to be was very informative and entertaining. Enjoy your latest acquisition, and keep them coming.

  • @ErikDB6
    @ErikDB6 Рік тому +6

    Great purchase, Adam. I look forward to seeing how things develop.

  • @charlesyoung9980
    @charlesyoung9980 Рік тому +3

    GM got a lot of crap (deserved) for making this car. An absolute embarrassment. Now, 37 years later, we look back with fond nostalgia.

  • @cafn8ed74
    @cafn8ed74 Рік тому +7

    I've never heard the name Caddilier. My friends and I knew them as Cavillacs. That's really an amazing example of that model.
    I had a friend in high school with a Z24 Cavalier, which had the 2.8 liter V6, and for a bunch of teenagers with beater cars of that era, it was exceptionally quick.

    • @stevevarholy2011
      @stevevarholy2011 Рік тому +1

      I have a automatic 1982 Citation X-11 with the H.O. Carburetted V6. It's pretty quick off the line. It does run out of breath quick, though.

    • @jonathannagela2130
      @jonathannagela2130 Рік тому

      z24- what was gm thinking with that and the grand am and grand prix?

    • @billolsen4360
      @billolsen4360 Рік тому

      A high school buddy when out & got a sad, almost used up BMW 318i when he turned 16. We called it "Ein Beeter" since she had chunks of rusted body panels actually dropping off onto the pavement, never to be seen again, but she WAS quick too.

    • @cafn8ed74
      @cafn8ed74 Рік тому

      @@jonathannagela2130 I don't have any experience with those Pontiacs, but the Z24 is a pretty well proven formula. Take your economy s- box, fit an engine from your mid- sized car, firm up the suspension and sell it as a sports car. For an 80s car it was fast, it gripped well and cornered flat. We're lucky to not have gotten into more trouble than we did in that car.

  • @ImpalamansGarage
    @ImpalamansGarage Рік тому +1

    The 2.8 and 3.1 made good power for what they were. The only problem is that they are disposable engines. If they ever have any major issues requiring a "rebuild", it's best to simply buy another engine. Trying to rebuild, deck the block or perform head work is a waste of time and will only result in another more catastrophic failure. As I was a teenager in the early 80s and watched the onslaught of FWD junk coming out of Detroit it's hard for me to offer praise or positive comments. But I will say this: It is good that you are preserving an example from that era purely for historical purposes. Excellent find!

  • @robertdiehl9003
    @robertdiehl9003 Рік тому +1

    That 2.8 v6 was a fantastic, excellent & rock solid preforming engine back in the day. Had same motor in 88 Chevy Beretta and I still miss it 28 years later

  • @jamellloydhampton7907
    @jamellloydhampton7907 6 місяців тому +1

    I love the Cadillac CIMARRON 2.8Liter V6 and my foster Mother had one and the same color and different head lights and you different rims and leather seats and also computer Cagers. She had a 1986

  • @rightlanehog3151
    @rightlanehog3151 Рік тому +6

    Adam, The title "Best Cavalier Ever?" would be a more positive alternative. 🤣😁😂😉

    • @lucyfan1976
      @lucyfan1976 Місяць тому +1

      TRUTH!! If the cavalier had some of these upgrades it would have been nice. For a caddy it wasn't that nice!!! lol

  • @dewdew34
    @dewdew34 Рік тому +1

    Reminds me of the 87 Celebrity i had, 2.8 FI V6 and 4 speed auto. Was a good economy commuter , decent mpg under 65. Roomy too.

  • @OLDS98
    @OLDS98 Рік тому +3

    There is nothing like the feeling of buying a car and it being a project and working on that car to perfect it. You go for Adam. It will be interesting to see what you do.

  • @kiheisun
    @kiheisun Рік тому +6

    I've always liked the steering wheel on this. I see the pedals are bright metal trimmed. A lot of nice details. Didn't know you could get cloth/leather seats. If Cadillac could have given it the same treatment as the original 70s Seville...

  • @petermandics1517
    @petermandics1517 Рік тому +7

    Good work Adam. Those wheels and Eagle GT's really take me back. It looks as absurd today as then, but it was a harbinger of what has come today; the beginnings of a small, performance Cadillac. Catch Car&Driver's take on the CT4 this years Lightening Lap at VIR? Just saying.

  • @robertcoy1877
    @robertcoy1877 Рік тому +2

    Love it, happy for you Adam. 8 second 0-60 video next plz😊.

  • @micmac99
    @micmac99 Рік тому +1

    I was in the sixth grade in 1982. I took one look at these and immediately thought they were a joke. And I was one of those kids who LOVED cars and knew some things about them.

  • @scottymoondogjakubin4766
    @scottymoondogjakubin4766 Рік тому +2

    I feel its all about the nostalgia and reliving the memories from long past good or bad its definitely a time capsule !

  • @boowiebear
    @boowiebear Рік тому +2

    Wow, wild to see one today and in that good of shape.

  • @danteardenz2670
    @danteardenz2670 Рік тому +3

    Rushed into production in.81 , because Cadillac dealers wanted a compact. I loved Cadillacs since a boy & thought I would like one as a teenager. I knew rich people who did buy " Cimmies " for their kids to go to college in , or second - third Cadillacs as errand runners etc . I even knew someone who bought one for their housekeeper!
    Many older people bought them.
    They seemed to sell enough , that they had a road presence.
    It should be judged for the era , it was created in.
    It was Cadillacs poorly disguised, version of the Lincoln Versailles! Only Lincoln was clever enough to update the roofline with a formal look.
    Cadillac should of disguised the Cavalier style roofline & never put a weak four in it , in the beginning.

    • @pcno2832
      @pcno2832 Рік тому +1

      It was actually an inline 4 (I don't know of any American-made V4s), but it really was weak in the first year. It also got lousy mileage for such a weak engine. An Iron Duke would have been better.

    • @danteardenz2670
      @danteardenz2670 Рік тому

      @@pcno2832 I am glad you corrected me on the engine. I do know the little engine only made 88 hp , first year! Cadillacs reputation & prestige was still high & people gave them a shot .
      They listed until 87 I believe.
      I also recall a beautiful girl driving a blue six cylinder one , with a white padded top !
      They both surely got my attention!

  • @dlyrag755
    @dlyrag755 Рік тому +1

    That coin holder was very cool in its day. 80's cars were pretty bad looking back. Always enjoy your shows.

    • @mikekokomomike
      @mikekokomomike Рік тому

      80s cars were boxy looking, think the Ford Taurus changed all that

  • @fourdoorglory
    @fourdoorglory Рік тому +2

    At Cadillac we called it a “Cavalier with chrome” 🤭

  • @terry3193
    @terry3193 Рік тому +8

    Fun car to add to the collection even though I’m not sure what Cadillac was thinking with such a huge deviation from their demographic sales base. Personally, I prefer the cloth interior. I’d be tempted to replace the tires with some whitewalls. Might change the look, even though the white lettered tires are original.

    • @Stan-rj8ki
      @Stan-rj8ki Рік тому +1

      I definitely think the white walls would look better, Adam!

  • @hynestimothy411
    @hynestimothy411 Рік тому +8

    One good thing about the Cimmerian was that the cavalier never had a bad rust problem and where pretty solid structurely

    • @jbb8382
      @jbb8382 Рік тому

      Cimmerian? Must be the Armenian made model 😀

    • @TheOzthewiz
      @TheOzthewiz 11 місяців тому

      NO! The rocker panels were good for about 10yrs, IF you did the "under body flush" on a REGULAR basis! They were "flimsy" and were rated VERY POOR in the NHSTA offset "crash tests". Not a SAFE car in a crash!

  • @johnbarnes6832
    @johnbarnes6832 Рік тому +5

    Lets not forget the Catera, when was the last time one of those has been spotted ?

    • @ericknoblauch9195
      @ericknoblauch9195 Рік тому

      The Catera was the worst Cadillac ever. The Cimarron was a better car even if it was a gussied up Cavalier. I knew a couple of people who owned the Catera, and it was a nightmare dealing with the constant oil leaks, and fluid leaks coming from the engine. The best Cadillac's were the 1955 and 1956 models. A 1970 Cadillac was good too.

    • @johnbarnes6832
      @johnbarnes6832 Рік тому +1

      @@ericknoblauch9195 When I lived in Colorado Springs in '72'-'74 the local Cadillac dealer
      had a gently used '67 Coupe DeVille with 70K for $500. My father test drove it and the
      Caddy was as solid as a rock ,no rattles or shakes, and the pale blue leather interior
      was spotless. Circumstances precluded us from buying it, but I've always judged
      newer Cadillacs against that car as corporate products assembled no differently
      than other GM offerings.

    • @billolsen4360
      @billolsen4360 Рік тому

      @@johnbarnes6832 That year was exceptional for Caddy styling. Stacked headlamps canted forward, rear blade taillamps.

  • @alexkistner2263
    @alexkistner2263 Рік тому +1

    It's solidly built, today it would look okay on the streets

  • @onlyhereonce7290
    @onlyhereonce7290 Рік тому +1

    What a great little car. My best friend had a step mom with a cavalier. I thought it was a cool car back in the day. Can't wait to see future videos of this caddy. Thanks for taking us all along for the ride.

  • @DSP1968
    @DSP1968 Рік тому +4

    My only experience with one of these was with and '85 or '86 when new that was burnt orange metallic with a tan full leather interior. Pleasant enough and small is all I remember about it. I look forward to seeing you get it up to your usual standards!

  • @calbob750
    @calbob750 Рік тому +3

    Back in the day people wondered why Cadillac didn’t use the same platform that the Cutlass Ciera/Buick Century was built on. This would have provided a roomier mid sized car better in every respect over the Cavalier.

    • @TheOzthewiz
      @TheOzthewiz 11 місяців тому

      The reason Cadillac wanted a small CHEAPER car was that Chevrolet had a fast selling car, the Cavalier and they wanted to "get in on the action" as CHEAPLY as possible. So they used the Cavalier platform and gussied it up, then marked up the price by 50% (because it was a Cadillac). LOL

  • @fhwolthuis
    @fhwolthuis Рік тому +13

    I love it, Adam! It's basically an Opel Ascona that we had in Europe, but with the high quality interior and the V6 it is a lot more special. Does the stereo work? It looks very cool too. Looking forward to some videos about this car ❤️👍🏻

    • @orkoto6057
      @orkoto6057 Рік тому +2

      Ascona underpinnings??

    • @fhwolthuis
      @fhwolthuis Рік тому +7

      @@orkoto6057 yep. Ascona C (1981-1988)

    • @Csc3462
      @Csc3462 Рік тому +2

      Also so a varaint i Norway in addition to the Opel Ascona, was an Isuzu Aska

    • @orkoto6057
      @orkoto6057 Рік тому +2

      So curious, the ascona could be seen on a daily basis in Spain... Greetings!

    • @Mountain-Man-3000
      @Mountain-Man-3000 Рік тому

      LoL "high quality"😂

  • @robertlombardi2228
    @robertlombardi2228 Рік тому +1

    Adam - been following this Caddy on Tony’s Channel.
    Looking forward to seeing it cleaned up and restored to its former glory!

  • @pgtmr2713
    @pgtmr2713 Рік тому +5

    I'd Love to see this compared directly to a Z24 from the same year/era. V6 5 speed, Digital dash I was thinking for those inserts, something could probably be made from fiberglass, but the other guy with the 3D printing idea definitely had the better idea.

  • @stevevarholy2011
    @stevevarholy2011 Рік тому +1

    If it were black, it would be pefect. At 15-16, I had the magazine ad of the Cimarron on my bulletin board. Quad sealed beam headlights and dirving lights, yes, please.

  • @keithb9272
    @keithb9272 Рік тому

    I remember my older brother getting this brand new in 1986 when he graduated high school. He used it as a NYC car while attending college. It lasted about 2 yrs. He liked it because it was small and easy to park in the City. But it didn't hold up well to the NYC streets. After that it lingered around for a few more yrs as the live-in's car for shopping etc. In 1990 we donated it to a local high school for their mechanical shop program.

  • @TVHouseHistorian
    @TVHouseHistorian Рік тому +3

    Somehow with it being Cadillac’s definitive worst, I still have a lot of affection for the Cimmaron. It’s part of my childhood.

  • @johnpezzullo9644
    @johnpezzullo9644 Рік тому +2

    Great addition to your collection Adam, what a NOVELTY Car. Yes total POS pretty much, but how FUN. :) :)

  • @javierdenardo2607
    @javierdenardo2607 Рік тому +2

    No matter what people say, keep preserving history. I would like to do the same

  • @RobertDeMoll-e6w
    @RobertDeMoll-e6w Рік тому +1

    Not bad for the time. “ Monday morning quarterbacking” isn’t fair by today’s standards .
    Sold Buicks, Cadillac, and Pontiac in 83. Had the 1.8L engine in a Buick Skyhawk T-Type. Was a Great little car. Wish I had one now.

    • @glx68
      @glx68 2 місяці тому

      Yes you're right. The question is how much car do we really need? The Cimarron, also as inline 4 had/has enough power, was/is big enough. What are the qualities of a car? Just think,.....it doesn't had/have to be powered by a big V8 with 4 litre or even more to be good, reliable or luxurious!😊

  • @jetsons101
    @jetsons101 Рік тому +2

    Adam: At 5:46 is that a "Saint Christopher be my guide" visor pin clip?????? Cimarrons weren't a bad car, they were good for the day. Thanks for sharing your new Caddy with us.

  • @tenthdimension9836
    @tenthdimension9836 Рік тому +3

    7:37 I see Tony was as good as his word and fixed the ashtray cover.

  • @atikovi1
    @atikovi1 Рік тому +1

    That pod mounted center brake light looked so cool.

  • @iracohen3864
    @iracohen3864 Рік тому +1

    It's an interesting and amazing find. I do remember when they came out...and though it was badged and priced as a Cadillac, the public just still saw it as a Chevy in disguise...
    There were many many better options with more room and more luxury.
    But as a piece of history, I see why you bought it.

  • @johnbrentford5513
    @johnbrentford5513 Рік тому +2

    I had a 1986 Chevrolet Cavalier I liked it.

    • @jackjohnson7396
      @jackjohnson7396 Рік тому

      Right they were good to go generally. Basic good in the snow too.

  • @spaxspore
    @spaxspore Рік тому +1

    2.8 was/is a solid V6, had one in a '89 Chevrolet Celebrity nice torguey engine and had a good sound - the first car I learned to drive with, and the same for the rest of us kids in the family.

  • @billymcmanus9642
    @billymcmanus9642 Рік тому +1

    I saw the video of your friend Tony had went & picked it up for you and his clips he made on his way to his house. He said the tires were making the steering wheel wobble from flat spots from sitting.

  • @steves9905
    @steves9905 Рік тому +1

    We always called them Cavaliers with power windows

  • @67marlins
    @67marlins Рік тому +2

    Let's be honest, GM did a great job turning this corporate J-car into a compact deserving of the Cadillac wreath, taking great efforts to distinguish it for the Cadillac marque.

  • @BillofRights1951
    @BillofRights1951 Рік тому +5

    That 2.8 V6 was a Chevy engine I believe...Jeep bought them for its mid-80's Cherokee's as an upgrade. They were known for oil leaks. We ordered an 85 Cherokee Chief new at the time and the salesman begged us NOT to order the 2.8 for its various problems...we took his advice and bought the cast iron 2.5 Litre Jeep engine. It was slow as molasses (which he warned us) but bomb-proof...got over 200K miles and it never burned a drop of oil or had a single engine-related problem. All of our friends at the time who got caught up in the Jeep craze and bought examples with the 2.8 ended up with engine issues. That 85 Jeep is still my favorite car of all time.

    • @67marlins
      @67marlins Рік тому +2

      It sounds like that salesman saved you a lot of grief!

    • @HAL-dm1eh
      @HAL-dm1eh Рік тому +1

      I had to look up whether that was the 2.5L Iron Duke GM engine I had the "pleasure" of owning in 2 different cars. It was a genuine AMC develop motor. I would say you dodged 2 bullets with that one, but the 2.5L Iron Duke truck engine was much better than the lightened car version I had (called the Tech 4).

    • @67marlins
      @67marlins Рік тому

      @HAL 9000 I thought the Pontiac 2.5 Liter Iron Duke had a good reputation for reliability, but was unrefined.
      Is that the one you had in two different cars? Are you agreeing it was a little rough?

    • @BillofRights1951
      @BillofRights1951 Рік тому

      @@HAL-dm1eh I believe the 2.5 L Jeep engine was all American Motors. It was very quiet at cruising speed as well as under load, but man it was gutless. I had a 5-speed stick in the Cherokee and it pretty much loafed on the freeway, there was almost no reserve for passing, but then again, who's in a rush? 😵

    • @HAL-dm1eh
      @HAL-dm1eh Рік тому +1

      @@67marlins The first one I had was in an 84 Olds Calais (loved that car) and it was a good engine until the oil pressure would drop on me going down the road at anything above 70 mph. First time it happened on a trip 3 hrs away from home and had to have it towed all the way back home from there (tourist area, local mechanics wanted to rob me). Ruined the whole trip.
      2nd time it happened to me I was on my way to work somewhere and just turned it around and drove it all the way back home without oil pressure and let it almost lock up. I was done with it. Friends were making fun of it anyway because it had piston slap and some other knock it had developed from the last time it did it and I couldn't get it off the interstate fast enough to shut it off.
      2nd Iron Duke or "Tech 4" I had was in an 84 Fiero, and ok it was just unrefined as the last one was. BUT, I also was afraid of the thing after what happened to me with the 1st, so I never pushed it at all.
      You could not push that engine and have some luck with it and have a reliable experience, but as you can see it was not without its issues and others I'm not even mentioning that happened to others and not me.
      As I said, the truck engine didn't seem to suffer from any of these issues and was much beefier and more durable.

  • @snerdsters8
    @snerdsters8 Рік тому +3

    A girl I knew in college had a Cimarron. Tan with tan leather interior. Great little car and a great girl.

  • @flyonbyya
    @flyonbyya Рік тому +2

    I’m pretty sure the Vast majority of the viewers have no idea the meaning of ‘tart up’, though quite accurate.
    tart up, Slang.
    to adorn, dress, or decorate, especially in a flamboyant manner:
    Example:
    “The old restaurant was tarted up to look like a Viennese café”

    • @flyonbyya
      @flyonbyya Рік тому +1

      The tach displays 400 RPM when not running ??

  • @charliefunboy5210
    @charliefunboy5210 Рік тому +5

    Nice car. Congrats! It would have been interesting if they had stayed with the original idea of putting this on the X body platform. Enjoy!

  • @cadillacguy1890
    @cadillacguy1890 Рік тому +20

    If you compare this to other vehicles of the era in its price range, it’s actually right in there. True it doesn’t handle quite like a C Class or 3 Series, but it has pretty good performance with the V-6, lots of features, and was well built for the time. GM sorted out almost all of the problems the early ones had, and it was actually pleasant to drive or ride in.
    Maybe an injector purge with a pressurized injector cleaner that taps into the fuel rail might free up that stuck injector

    • @HAL-dm1eh
      @HAL-dm1eh Рік тому +2

      8 sec 0-60 is still a good solid 2 secs faster than my modern Corolla! 🤣

    • @RichM3000
      @RichM3000 Рік тому +2

      If it had been introduced with the V6 (standard, not optional), with its own sheet metal, and with some refining for fit and finish, it maybe could have worked.

  • @jerrygish2756
    @jerrygish2756 Рік тому +2

    I have a 87 Celebrrity , had a miss in it with somewhat low milage , checked and replaced some things on it and turned out to be the spark plug wires.Original wires on a 2.8

  • @stevegallagher687
    @stevegallagher687 Рік тому +1

    That would be a hoot at any cars and coffee

  • @markbehr88
    @markbehr88 Рік тому +1

    Congratulations Adam. Welcome to the Cimarron Club! You need a full size 1980’s Fleetwood now like I have, so you can do a video from Cimarron to Seville to Fleetwood.

  • @gregstabryla9945
    @gregstabryla9945 Рік тому +2

    I saw Tony picking it up. Ahh. At least you got a nice one, for what it's worth.

  • @telebob5983
    @telebob5983 Рік тому +1

    Kudos to giving the Cimarron it's due on the channel and in your fleet. In the late 1990s I purchased a 1987 with the same 14 inch alloys with just over 100K and while not a Cadillac in the realm of my two earlier '77 DeVilles I enjoyed the car nonetheless. Your observations about the 2.8 power train are spot on and with the aid of a really fine set of Dunlop tires on mine the road manners were suitably sporting. I have somewhere a new center cap still in it's GM wrapper, BTW. Now I need to locate it...

  • @davidzoller9617
    @davidzoller9617 Рік тому +2

    Not bad at all. Would prefer this particular car to any new car.

  • @ref4044
    @ref4044 Рік тому +1

    I had a 1985 back then - same exact color combination with leather. Enjoyed that car a lot for exactly what it was - Cadillac's version of the J body. Those that whine about it being a Cavalier need to remember that EVERY SINGLE DIVISION of GM had their version of the J body. (CAFE standards) Two things were outstanding on this car. The bucket seats and the sound system. Additionally this was the best car I ever had for driving in snow. While others were getting stuck I just slowly maneuvered around them and kept going. This was the perfect urban Cadillac for the times.

  • @paulherrera6537
    @paulherrera6537 Рік тому +1

    i like the black around the lights

  • @juelzm149
    @juelzm149 Рік тому +1

    This is a great example of the Cimarron! Very good shape.

  • @johnz8210
    @johnz8210 Рік тому +2

    It identifies as a Cadillac. I guess it was ahead of its time.

  • @classiccarworkshopbayern
    @classiccarworkshopbayern Рік тому

    Wow, remarkable condition, that interior. My uncle had one of the first ones as a 4-cyl, 5 speed, sunroof, foglights, leather... I thought that car was so cool back then. :-) Today I'd tune up the engine, fix the AC and use it as my daily driver and feel cool. :-) Nice buy!

  • @ricksand6477
    @ricksand6477 Рік тому

    Hey Adam, What a nice clean little car! You brought back so many memories of my 1987 Cimarron - which was just like yours except for flush headlamps in front. These were nice cars that could not overcome their punchline status, due to being "ultimate Cavaliers" in most folks eyes. The interior is where they really stood out. As you've demonstrated, they were trimmed as Cadillacs; with wool pile carpets, flocked and stitched trim and every electric and electronic convenience as standard equipment. Incidentally, those very comfortable bucket seats were the same ones used in the Eldorado Touring Coupe. The V-6 had very sprightly performance and still returned decent fuel economy. I purchased mine for a song in 1990 with about 12,000 miles on it. The car's reputation made it an incredible buy at the time. We really enjoyed it. Hope you enjoy yours as well!

  • @robertdiehl9003
    @robertdiehl9003 Рік тому +1

    Beautiful car in my opinion regardless of cross over history with Chevy cavalier

  • @spinb
    @spinb Рік тому +1

    It usually annoys me when people say a Lexus is "just a rebadged" Toyota, or the Navigator is just a rebadged Expedition. But for years. GM really did just "rebadge" their base Chevy models into Buicks, Olds, Pontiac and "fancy" Cadillacs.

  • @joshpeterson7241
    @joshpeterson7241 Рік тому +1

    Part of me almost wants one of these! Very nice example!

  • @AB-jz9ns
    @AB-jz9ns Рік тому +1

    The Cimarron was Cadillac’s response to the Mercedes 190E that also came out in 1982. The problem was that the Mercedes was a true Benz all around just in a smaller (midsize in euro standards) size and that’s why people called it the baby Benz, while the Cimarron was simply a rebadged Chevy Cavalier with a bit more plush interior. It did not have any of the riding qualities of the Cadillacs. Having said that this example in the video is a great find given the condition and low miles. Huge bonus that is the V6 version.

  • @Jag-leaper
    @Jag-leaper Рік тому +1

    My 94 sunbird has those "strakes" on the mirrors aswell 😊

  • @lolimfalling
    @lolimfalling Місяць тому

    I had a black 86 cimmaron back in 07 as my very first car. Bought it for 1.4k and it had 86k miles on. Couldn't have been happier.

  • @joseduranjr4963
    @joseduranjr4963 Рік тому +1

    I’d love to own that Cadillac Cimarron

  • @patrickflohe7427
    @patrickflohe7427 Рік тому +1

    I like the seats, & interior in general.

  • @judewilliams7468
    @judewilliams7468 Рік тому +1

    I REMEMBER THOSE KIND OF CARS THOSE WERE GOOD CARS

  • @zelphx
    @zelphx Рік тому +1

    Not to be snide, but this would've made a nice Chevrolet. At the time, I did actually refer to the Cimarron as a "Chevrollac". The pricing was it's downfall, and Caddy aficionados were rightfully offended.

  • @PolPotsPieHole
    @PolPotsPieHole Рік тому +1

    lol, I like the white lettering on the tires, dont see that much any more

  • @hangonsnoop
    @hangonsnoop Рік тому

    While I doubt that I would of spent thousands of dollars to get the Cadillac badging on a Cavalier when this was new, this is a nice survivor and I know that you will do a good job of taking care of it.