When I was taking drum lessons, I held my sticks like Pete DeFreitas does in this video (palms facing towards each other) and my instructor quickly told me that is NOT the proper way to hold them -- I should be holding them with palms facing down. Other drummers I know also rebuked me for playing that way. And yet, Pete DeFreitas got the job done with more style, and all those drummers aren't being watched 35 years later.
Top 5 Five Single Hitsongs Billboard Chart Ian McCullough Lead Vocalist Songwriter Guitarist Echo And The Bunnymen English British 🇬🇧 Band New Waves Eighties 80s Nineties 90s Legendary Europe Waves
Wahey! Recorded this when it was aired, on a crappy tape recorder with mic held up to telly. Went mental when my mum pushed open my bedroom door with a load creak right at the end & me going Shush! Sounds weird without them sound effects.
Just relish every discovery as if it were your first - or last. :) Art is an endless resource and none of us, fortunately, will ever be able to say "I've seen/heard it all", so we're all doomed to be frustrated somehow. :) Oh, and if I may suggest - and just in case you still haven't heard them - don't miss out on Arcade Fire. They are one of those bands that makes you go "Why haven't I found about them before?". They're great.
This was transferred from an ancient VHS tape. I probably cut it early because it had some interference or bad tracking lines on the picture for the remainder of the song.
thank you my friend- that's a healthier attitude I have to admit. I'll check out your band- I have a couple for you as well- Smithereens- behind the wall of sleep Kenny Wayne Shepard- blue on black
I started getting into the new wave/alternative rock scene in 1987 so was just around for the last EATB album. From the US perspective in SoCal, they were definitely very well-known within the new wave scene but was just short of the level of the Cure, Smiths, Depeche Mode and New Order by the late 80's. I think it also reflects their relative obscurity now while DM and the Cure are still playing arenas. NO and Morrissey also do well on tours now. And of course EATB took a decade-long break while bands like DM and the Cure carried on building and reinforcing their fanbases. EATB also lost their drummer to a bike accident. I also think their music wasn't quite pop enough to get them up the charts--aside from Lips like Sugar. That was their biggest US hit but McCulloch quit the band (he also hated the 5th album claiming it was a sellout but then released a solo album that was just as middle of the road and bland--but that's another story...). The Cure had some very non-commercial songs, but Robert Smith also managed a "A friday I'm in love " or "Just like heaven" to keep the casual fans interested. Don't think McCulloch and company had the pop song skills to write those types of hits. For numerical context, in Los Angeles in 1988 they played 2 nights at the Universal Amphitheatre. Those were the last shows as the original quartet in LA. The UA seats about 6,000. Depeche Mode would play in the Rose Bowl in 1988 and 2 shows at Dodger Stadium in 1990. NO has headlined at Irvine Meadows and Hollywood Bowl which both hold more than 10,000. EATB in 1986 did co-headline in Irvine with NO. I wasn't around for most of their career, but my understanding is they were tipped to be the next big thing but weren't able to cross over to the mega mainstream like U2 did. They also didn't quite achieve the widespread popularity in the alternative scene like DM and the Cure--but these two are probably the biggest achievers within the scene. Really big but never really Top 40 mainstays. So if the Cure and DM were A-list, then EATB were solidly B to B+. I wonder if EATB would have broken through if McCulloch hadn't left and de Frietas hadn't died. I liked the Grey Album at the time, but it's clear, comparing it to their previous albums, they had reached a plateau. The songs and production are very pedestrian and devoid of much pep. So even if they had carried on, maybe it wouldn't have mattered. Unless they were especially inspired, it's likely they would have continued on the downward trend. They had a good 10 year run--they didn't break through to the top but they had a hell of a career. I'm currently getting back into their music again and a part of me regrets missing out their prime in the early to mid 80's. I would have loved to hear McCulloch live in his prime with EATB. I saw his solo tour but it wasn't the same. Anyhow, that's my take on it. It will be interesting to hear from others who lived through that time, especially those who were in the scene in the early 80's. I can't believe that whole period was more than 30 years ago--how time flies.
Thank you for the awesome reply! I wonder if they wanted to go "mainstream". Maybe they didn't want to do a pop hit-- for art's sake. Who really knows. They put out a great album in the early 2000's: I believe it's called "Flowers". Definitely a more mature sound with interesting lyrical choices...and the lead singer's voice is incredible. At any rate, thank you for the interesting read.
I was in college back in the mid 80s and they were very popular on college radio but not pop radio stations. One of my fav groups of the 80s, it was a great time to be alive.
I agree with your post, Ninety. I rarely heard this song, remembered thinking at the time, WHO IS T H A T!? But I think it was Lips Like Sugar that got my attention. This one though, is the bomb-...just an incredibly sexy groove--that baseline, the lead guitar, the drums, the synth...and Ian's voice. Just love it! Then Killing Moon and Bring on the Dancing Horses---but I don't remember hearing these songs or of EATB until maybe late eighties and into the mid-nineties where they got a good bit of airplay on our Alt rock station back then, in the Phoenix area. When I learned their big songs were from the earlier '80's, it surprised me because the station we had back then was always bringing in new music, new acts, so have no idea why or how I could have missed them until later---had my radio going a long time daily. Maybe they were ahead of their time. Around the same time, DM, New Order, The Church, Yaz and Erasure were also getting airplay. I know this station was also getting into that chill- new-age, sleepy instrumental and Windom Hill stuff back in the later '80's, too...so maybe it just ate up airtime. Too bad. I also know that many of the alt rock, new wave 'purists' didn't appreciate drum machines and anything that didn't sound 'authentic' like your average rock band, I guess. Am so glad that there are still many of us out there that love this music that seemed a bit foreign to some back then. Even some younger people who weren't even born yet like it now.
The genius of Pete de Freitas in full swing, great to see that for once...
Bunnymen, Smiths, The Cure, etc etc etc, who says the 80's were rubbish? we never had it so good !!!
Smith's? Shouldn't be mentioned in the same breath as the bunnymen.
Fun fact, Ray Manzarek of The Doors played keyboard on studio recording.
"Played keyboards too loudly" is what you meant to type.
Back in the 80's, Mac was the cutest thing ever to walk the earth. Swoon.
But Ian Brown was cuter ;)
When I was taking drum lessons, I held my sticks like Pete DeFreitas does in this video (palms facing towards each other) and my instructor quickly told me that is NOT the proper way to hold them -- I should be holding them with palms facing down. Other drummers I know also rebuked me for playing that way. And yet, Pete DeFreitas got the job done with more style, and all those drummers aren't being watched 35 years later.
Your drum teacher is right.
can a lot done thinking outside the box, for sure :D
I just discovered this gem- sad to know I will probably never discover all the music I would love before I die as there is so much out there
Todd Victorson never stop listening for it..
Top 5 Five Single Hitsongs Billboard Chart Ian McCullough Lead Vocalist Songwriter Guitarist Echo And The Bunnymen English British 🇬🇧 Band New Waves Eighties 80s Nineties 90s Legendary Europe Waves
Awesome!!! This song never gets old.
Love the drums on this. Nice one Pete.
Pete de Freitas....Eternal!!!
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Om Shanti!
RIP Pete. 🙏
Gone way too soon.
Sad but also nice, to see him.
31 years is a long time ago.
But sometimes feels like yesterday.
Love this live versión!!
love the song....drumming is slick~
Sound engineer checking the levels since this was being recorded for television.
Ian is so cool
Wahey! Recorded this when it was aired, on a crappy tape recorder with mic held up to telly. Went mental when my mum pushed open my bedroom door with a load creak right at the end & me going Shush! Sounds weird without them sound effects.
Top 5 Five Single Hitsongs Billboard Chart Ian Mccollo
Imagine being invited into the studio and Witnessing that!
Maaan!!!!
Pete😭😭😭💖💖💖
Just relish every discovery as if it were your first - or last. :) Art is an endless resource and none of us, fortunately, will ever be able to say "I've seen/heard it all", so we're all doomed to be frustrated somehow. :)
Oh, and if I may suggest - and just in case you still haven't heard them - don't miss out on Arcade Fire. They are one of those bands that makes you go "Why haven't I found about them before?". They're great.
SO sweet..
wonderfully !!
quiero que vuelva Bunnymen a la Argentina!!!
love this
Awesome, thanks for the post!
utter shame that they never got the push here in north america
I love you IAN😍😍😍
How about Echo and the Bunnymen's cover of "People are strange" originally by the Doors? They did it for the "Lost Boys" soundtrack.
Yeaaah
Música da hora...
Ka-ka-cucumber, ka ka ka cabbage, kaka ka cauliflower…..
This version is far superior than the one on the Gray album
At 2:32, who is the photographer? Ken Russell? Andy Warhol?
The eighties.
Pete de Freitas
***** Thanx
Im very hetero but, he made me nervous
this was funny hetero.
2018
Echo and the bunnymen FOREVER!
almost 2019
Bummer how it got cut off by uploaddr and his editing.. Is there another version out there
This was transferred from an ancient VHS tape. I probably cut it early because it had some interference or bad tracking lines on the picture for the remainder of the song.
That's the way the thunder rumbles, that's the way the bee bumbles...
thank you my friend- that's a healthier attitude I have to admit. I'll check out your band-
I have a couple for you as well- Smithereens- behind the wall of sleep
Kenny Wayne Shepard- blue on black
Looking for a reply from someone who lived through the era: How popular were E&BM in the "new wave" scene?
I started getting into the new wave/alternative rock scene in 1987 so was just around for the last EATB album. From the US perspective in SoCal, they were definitely very well-known within the new wave scene but was just short of the level of the Cure, Smiths, Depeche Mode and New Order by the late 80's. I think it also reflects their relative obscurity now while DM and the Cure are still playing arenas. NO and Morrissey also do well on tours now. And of course EATB took a decade-long break while bands like DM and the Cure carried on building and reinforcing their fanbases. EATB also lost their drummer to a bike accident. I also think their music wasn't quite pop enough to get them up the charts--aside from Lips like Sugar. That was their biggest US hit but McCulloch quit the band (he also hated the 5th album claiming it was a sellout but then released a solo album that was just as middle of the road and bland--but that's another story...). The Cure had some very non-commercial songs, but Robert Smith also managed a "A friday I'm in love " or "Just like heaven" to keep the casual fans interested. Don't think McCulloch and company had the pop song skills to write those types of hits.
For numerical context, in Los Angeles in 1988 they played 2 nights at the Universal Amphitheatre. Those were the last shows as the original quartet in LA. The UA seats about 6,000. Depeche Mode would play in the Rose Bowl in 1988 and 2 shows at Dodger Stadium in 1990. NO has headlined at Irvine Meadows and Hollywood Bowl which both hold more than 10,000. EATB in 1986 did co-headline in Irvine with NO.
I wasn't around for most of their career, but my understanding is they were tipped to be the next big thing but weren't able to cross over to the mega mainstream like U2 did. They also didn't quite achieve the widespread popularity in the alternative scene like DM and the Cure--but these two are probably the biggest achievers within the scene. Really big but never really Top 40 mainstays. So if the Cure and DM were A-list, then EATB were solidly B to B+.
I wonder if EATB would have broken through if McCulloch hadn't left and de Frietas hadn't died. I liked the Grey Album at the time, but it's clear, comparing it to their previous albums, they had reached a plateau. The songs and production are very pedestrian and devoid of much pep. So even if they had carried on, maybe it wouldn't have mattered. Unless they were especially inspired, it's likely they would have continued on the downward trend. They had a good 10 year run--they didn't break through to the top but they had a hell of a career. I'm currently getting back into their music again and a part of me regrets missing out their prime in the early to mid 80's. I would have loved to hear McCulloch live in his prime with EATB. I saw his solo tour but it wasn't the same.
Anyhow, that's my take on it. It will be interesting to hear from others who lived through that time, especially those who were in the scene in the early 80's. I can't believe that whole period was more than 30 years ago--how time flies.
Thank you for the awesome reply! I wonder if they wanted to go "mainstream". Maybe they didn't want to do a pop hit-- for art's sake. Who really knows. They put out a great album in the early 2000's: I believe it's called "Flowers". Definitely a more mature sound with interesting lyrical choices...and the lead singer's voice is incredible. At any rate, thank you for the interesting read.
I was in college back in the mid 80s and they were very popular on college radio but not pop radio stations. One of my fav groups of the 80s, it was a great time to be alive.
I agree with your post, Ninety. I rarely heard this song, remembered thinking at the time, WHO IS T H A T!? But I think it was Lips Like Sugar that got my attention. This one though, is the bomb-...just an incredibly sexy groove--that baseline, the lead guitar, the drums, the synth...and Ian's voice. Just love it! Then Killing Moon and Bring on the Dancing Horses---but I don't remember hearing these songs or of EATB until maybe late eighties and into the mid-nineties where they got a good bit of airplay on our Alt rock station back then, in the Phoenix area. When I learned their big songs were from the earlier '80's, it surprised me because the station we had back then was always bringing in new music, new acts, so have no idea why or how I could have missed them until later---had my radio going a long time daily. Maybe they were ahead of their time. Around the same time, DM, New Order, The Church, Yaz and Erasure were also getting airplay. I know this station was also getting into that chill- new-age, sleepy instrumental and Windom Hill stuff back in the later '80's, too...so maybe it just ate up airtime. Too bad. I also know that many of the alt rock, new wave 'purists' didn't appreciate drum machines and anything that didn't sound 'authentic' like your average rock band, I guess. Am so glad that there are still many of us out there that love this music that seemed a bit foreign to some back then. Even some younger people who weren't even born yet like it now.
Gigantic
That Emulator is really intrusive. Turn it down, sound bloke! Can't hear Mac's 12 string at all.
The Shin Bone Fever playlist......
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BASIC DOWN ON YOUR KNEES AND GIVE YOURSELF TO HIM JESUS,YEAH
So,. Echo is Ian?
1:52 What the???