They're really going about this "strategic competition" the wrong way. Think about how China was able to rapidly develop its technology through the purchase of foreign made equipment. Given the U.S dollar strength they could co-operate with China by building 21st century infrastructure which could benefit and make their manufacturing industries more competitive. Even if manufacturing returns to the U.S the problem is the country doesn't have enough workers to fill those jobs so it'll end hiring foreigners anyways. So it's really a self defeating policy. The U.S is just stifling its growth and innovation by pursuing this level of trade protectionism.
On other day, I read a UA-cam comment, I thought it was funny but true. “The US empire digs its own grave. Russia hands them the shovels and the shovels were made in China.” 🤣🤣🤣
One of my favourite yt comments about amarica by an Amarican was something like this:"we live very well under the care of our mafia boss father, we don't question since there is good food on the table, but we get surprised when a brick breaks our window to hit us at "random"..."
Trump's and now BIDEN'S Chinese tariffs cost the typical American family between $900 to $1,200 ANNUALLY! We can expect massive Chinese sanctions and more tariffs as we approach the election. This WILL cost Americans to the point where more families cannot afford daily essentials. This includes increased food cost - some food comes from China. It means your medicine will increase in price because most medicines use chemicals from China... On and on... The American people will be the losers.
Nearly a decade of my life preparing for and working in electrical construction and being told the made in China materials was going to be new economic cooperation. Those old timers protesting the manufacturing overseas tried to warn us apprentices. At least I got to help build a few hospitals and schools etc. I had some crazy experiences with some protestors though. Our phones got hacked and deleted at the school once. The school got hacked and the instructors accused the class. A protestor stood up and said something like 'it's time we occupy democracy!'. I remember the instructor calling him an idiot as they tried to convince us to join the protest arguing that continuing to work (in construction) only supported oppression. Half of us didn't take them seriously. Long story short, instead of a world class license I got awful sick with an immune disorder and just the other day I realized my phone along with a few of us were HTC phones which got banned a few months later! What a job, what a job.
When our economies are separated, the chance for conflict increases. Just look at Russia and Iran. We don't trade much with those two so they aren't afraid to lose our business.
The urge to keep on top will be American biggest mistake The US has 34 Trillion dollars Debt already... The dollar is getting more and more scrutiny, to the point the countries in global south are actively seeking alternatives (As much the Interest rates in the US keep higher, more ALL OTHER countries suffer, because we need to keep our rates higher too to counter the dollar price). Now, the Global south is simply choosing Huawei, Xiaomi, BYD, Solar Panels and so on Here in Brazil, my Modem Wifi 6E and all Home IoT are Huawei, my smartphone Xiaomi, I see more and more BYD in the streets (and I want one hehe), Probably my solar panels will be Chinese too ... Resuming, this aggressive discourse that "China is bad" just don't sticks ... To be sincere I'm more worried about American companies and the NSA 😂 (they already spied on Brazilian Companies and Gov. ) .. and as more the US push China away and bully Chinese companies, I feel more "sympathy", because I research if what American gov. says is true... and it's not... And I think they are doing this to China Today, tomorrow will be MY COUNTRY.
I'm from Bangladesh and people are leaning more towards Chinese products as well. I myself did it this year. Bought a Chinese printer. Ink is cheap as hell. And it just works.
My main thought is that China is showing incredible patience with all these. The US has been aggressive towards them for the past 10 years, and their reaction has been minimal. You can hear over and over from the US media how China is dangerous, and yet they are the ones showing restrain.
China is done, the one child policy means they will have 3 retired people for every working age person within the next decade or so. There is nothing they can do to change this, this is just how demographics work ...
Have you been paying attention? From making islands on int waters to attacking philiphines multiple times. To try to restrict every ones access to says water. The usa do a lot of stupid things, but china is not saint
The US only blocked one country... China from the International space station. So China built and launched it's own. Pretty soon, it'll be the ONLY space station orbiting the Earth after the ISS falls apart. There's another YT channel called Inside China Business...an American living and working in China. He gives some valuable insights into the trade war, the effects if any, of sanctions and Chinese industries viewed in it's proper context.
Not so easy. Most of the non-western world is basically the 3rd world, not a lucrative market for anyone at all. So, the idea is - to deny China access from the most lucrative market and chock their economic growth. Don't get fooled by the GDP figures. Being from one of those 3rd world - I assure you, the biggest problem these nations has is - they don't have institutions, they don't have infrastrucure, they don't have any ecosystem at all, and are rabidly corrupted to the brim on top of that. There's no way they can build the asset class, or the necessary infrastructure to become a lucrative market anytime soon. On the retrospect, some of these 3rd world nations might get a good boost to become a developed economy and a lucrative market in a few decades.
@@aniksamiurrahman6365 it is anything but easy however China, Russia, India etc have no choice. If they don't build the necessary industries and competencies they will be essentially ruled by the West. 3rd world countries can only benefit from the competition between US and China.
China make all the products using US chips is a good deal. Now the US is forcing China to make all the products using Chinese made chips, what an excellent idea LOL
China does not have enough domestic demand for the products they plan to produce, all that is going to happen id like in the 80's where China and Russia was till using valves when the rest of the world had moved on to ICs. Communists don't create they just take from others, that is all part of the ideology.
😂😂😂coz us government bannd their export, the so called high tech products, to China. Then what you expect the Chinese to do 😂😂😂 Do you forget what happened when US banned China's using international space station 😂😂😂
Doc : "No wonder this thing broke, it says : 'Made in China'" Marty : "What are you saying Doc ? In 2030 all the best stuff is made in China !" Doc : "Great Scott !"
@@seantewillis exactly. China made those products according to specs. Meanwhile Walmart is laughing all the way to the bank. I am living in China too and I only buy high quality products. I'll leave shit products for export to America lol
@@seantewillis American companies wanted products for next-to-nothing to maximize profit. They go what they paid for. I doubt any country could produce equal quality for the same price as the Chinese. Apple products are some of the best quality in the world and made in China. These don't come cheap, especially considering Apple's high profit margin.
@@raymondtay9442 to pay peanuts is what Mr Patel would do lol. White man gets on the phone and says I'll pay $2.50 for this, Mr Patel will say I'll pay $1😂🤣😂.lots of factories reject Mr Patel. Oh Mr Patel owns the dollar stores in America lol
You may as well keep sleeping it will too late to wake up after 5years. American, You have your a chance to change in the next few months to get the right leader, if you get it wrong again, you may as well go to sleep.
@@nigelrhodes4330 You have never heard of something called robotic automated manufacturing. Even many restaurants in China are using robots to cook and serve food.
Sleeping Giants!! Europeans spent centuries dividing the middle east so they don't bully Europeans like they used to, now the US is 2% favoured by the entire populations!!!! All time low!!!!!!! They strengthened Iran and Arabia, a simple regime change for Arabia that reflects the people's desires and strong opinions against the US..... Damn... And also India, by waking up China, India also need to step up.... Damn... Africa..... Literally the world's future market is at odds with the west and favours Chinese, Russian and middle eastern investors..... Damn.... Latin Amaricans are now more pro China than ever!!! And they keep getting alienated by the US.... Damn.... Europe are now seeking independence in military and economic fields... And even flirting with the Chinese and middle easterners...... Damn.... Dude, the US is literally isolating itself by itself while pretending they're smart and strategic... Bruh...
Its the old great formula of " Necessity is the Mother of Invention, did the same to Russia, and Russia is doing fine, as Russian Money is staying in Russia opening factories and service centres. Same will happen in China, the SAFE-RETURN on investment will be greater.
Most parallel processors are developed by AMD and Nvidia and those are fabricated in Taiwan. Which is the real capital of China as opposed to the Usurper Beijing.
@@nustada dude learn history please... Those taiwanese are runaway people from mainland China (China Political War democratic vs Socialist)and Beijing have Forbidden City the Capital of Ancient China....
@@nustada then why you said taiwan is "real capital of china" ? Since when capital of china move to taiwan ? Last time i check chinese imperial palace since ancient time is in Mainland If you wrote taipei is real capital of taiwan then i dont mind it
I seriously wish China, if they want to, to de-couple from US and be completely independent. They have 1.4B population and honestly, as they grown more sophisticated (and faster due to US sanctions), they can survive this without the US. Heck, US only have 1/4 of China population and is self combusting with mountain of debts. US relevance in the world is diminishing (other than military which they self proclaim to be number one) and G7 GDP is dwarfed in comparison to BRICS and the gap is just going to get wider. US ain't have good leadership. Majority of the politicians are under private companies payroll. None of them care shit about the citizens. Talk and talk but very little action or results shown. Build Back Better, remember? What happen to the money? Where did it go to? Where's the infrastructure?
@@tortenschachtel9498 Didn't go anywhere? When the sanction was first put in, China can't even madke 14nm. Now, China is self-sufficient on 14nm. The new Huawei phones use 7nm chip.
@@tortenschachtel9498Well U$ is making China great again by sanctions, tariffs and warmongering. Now U$ has united China and they WILL phase out Intel and AMD. Nice dumb moves by a U$ declining nation.
Watching from China, I work directly within the industry connecting Americans with China's industrial sector. What America is doing right now is plain self-destructive. There is a mistaken assumption that America outsources to China because everything is cheap here, but the reality is that many of the commodities, vital components, machinery, skills, and technologies available in China are only found here. If you remove China as a supplier, your whole "American" business model falls apart. Just ask Bezos, Elon, Walmart, Disney, and every single hardware or tech company out there. Despite what these delusional warmongers say, both countries are dependent on each other. Honestly, I see China as bound to win this challenge, as the U.S. has become a deindustrialized nation. Both countries should be friends and even allies, working together to lift the rest of humanity forward. There is no evil on this side, just retaliatory feelings to the hate. These feelings can easily go away with mutual respect.
They are also banning boeing and airbus from their airspace for security reasons. These planes have spying cameras and are bugged to listen in on passengers. 😂😂
Airbus is not banned and airbus has assembly factories all over China Boeing are iphones with wings- can be instructed to crash all over China- as per the logic of Gina Raimondo
Boeing is literally falling apart.. plane doors falling off, plane wheels falling off ua-cam.com/video/tdOt_VcQ9A8/v-deo.html ...worse quality than cheap Chinese goods.
AMD, INTC Slip as China Moves Away from Western Tech China officials tell telecom carriers to phase out foreign chips by 2027. This is U$A dream come true .. China helping U$A to stop chip companies from supplying Chinese companies. So great to see the two governments working together.
Looks like the US semiconductor companies lost its biggest customer. Most of these processors are used to make computers, and other electronic equipment. There is no electronics industry in the US, so what happens when these chips can't be used? You make chip fabs in the US, and most of these chips can't be used. What a disaster.
@@michaeltse321 The only market for $5,000 smartphones and laptops will be the US, because they couldn't export any of that and sell it at those high prices. People would be keeping their smartphones and computers longer and buy fewer of them as a result.
@@soonpohtay4794 It somewhat does what kind of statement is that from a propagandist. China does what Russia requests as Russia has the military power and is practicing with a traditional war with troops in Ukraine. Russia is a military threat, China is an economic threat both need each other take one out poof
China just doing US politicians a favor, so they don’t have to waste more time on discussing of banning chips to China. Perhaps, the US politicians will have more time to focus on a real issue occurring in US now. Like homelessness, gun violence, drug issues, zero dollar shopping, infrastructure, and so on.
Now i know why this type of host cant be found in the White House which is overflowing with the opposite type. He is too intelligent & speak the brutal truth!
Leadership in both China and the US want us to believe that China is the second largest economy. That has not been true for several years, PPP is a far better measure. China has far more economic activity, they produce stuff....
You are 100% right sir, maybe except for Cisco at least assembly is done in Thailand for some products. However as someone working for Huawei, I j can just say, it's nice to hear truth along the propaganda and fear tactics. Kishore Mabubahni is also super vise to listen to. Especially on the China topic. Recommend to see his points vs the US so called 'China Expert' a few weeks ago... US imperialists is failing and seems US economy will collapse even IMF warns us last week... 🤦
Nah!. Ain't going to happen!. They will be crippled in industry. Demented as the old man. China has very lousy software development and shall remain so. AGI will change them forever.
@@Placid_Cat This is America. American politicians think only to the next election cycle... 2 years/4 years. And American CEO only think as far as the next quarter.. 3 months. Long term planing does not exist.
China is not ripping them off- just a precaution that USA may at a flick- decide to ban the supply of them chips- safer to replace them now so as not be caught unprepared.
@@michaell4034Its not that at all- china was sanctioned- chip sale ban, space station ban, GPS ban, ban ban ban etc google ban China has no option but just make their own things and get rid of unreliable suppliers
There is a video that came out saying over 50% of the world’s top AI brains are Chinese. That applies to America as well, just because you see some European looking guy talking about AI in the media doesn’t mean he is the brain behind it, he is just a spokesman if you know what I mean.
Yep... When you do everything to p!$s off your biggest customer, don't be surprised that this is the result. It would be helpful that every politicians has a basic physics education and learn that "For every action theres a opposite reaction"
2024 Japanese consumer electronic line ... Sony / Panasonic / Sharp / Hitachi / Toshiba etc ... Ask any teens about these company ... majority will reply " Who's are they ? "
No kids won't know about Sony. Sony is a popular brand. They still know about Sony, Panasonic, Canon, Nikon. Just because China is having a good economy right now does not mean that most people in the world know the names of Chinese brands more than Japan. It may have Made in China on it but that doesn't mean that specific brand is a Chinese brand. It's like saying Samsung is a Chinese brand just because there's a Made in China on Samsung products. You Chinese are getting cocky day by day even though the foundation of China to become powerful in the tech industry was copying and stealing from other countries. I remember a lot of Chinese companies copying and stealing from Japan IPs in 1980's. For example, TDK sued TCL for intellectual property violation in 1985. Most of the Chinese things are copies of Japanese concepts, designs, styles including video games, animation, comics, cars, electronics, bullet trains, and etc. I expect the Chinese to be humble people but I'd never knew Chinese can be so arrogant and acting all high and mighty as if they're following US footsteps
@@erenyeagerist7681how did the USA become powerful in the 20s and 30s ? Oh they copied technology from Europe and the UK ,how did Japan become powerful in the 1980s ? Oh they copied technology from the USA and the west ....,china did the same in the 90s and the 00s , so China will rise like the USA and Japan , the only difference is that China is big enough to sustain itself ....doesn't need west to keep its economy going ....the people who are "cocky" is people like yourself in the west , who think the world revolves around yourselves ....the current situations in Ukraine and Gaza and the rise of the BRICS says otherwise ...
Actually the US has some very high quality military drones, but they are expensive AF. For the price of one US drone ($50k) they can get 100 cheaper DJI's ($500/each).
@@BillAnt you are slow isn't it..... military drone and commercial drone are different.....the drone that are being used in Ukraine/Russian war is mostly commercial drone.....
@@BillAnt I know what you wrote.....in that case china too had military drone cheaper maybe then America but that is not used in war in Ukraine/Russia so what your points ....
Do you even know what the real thopic was about,so why bring out of context military drone here ...and it's not world's problem everys thing in America is pricer then rest of the world's.....just a few days I saw a girl from American complaining about single apple(fruit )price which cost 7 dollar ....no wonder you guys are dumper and look every things as your point of view.
China got hit with access denied to advanced western chips. Its response: first replace imports of legacy chips with own production. This was already a disaster for western chipmakers. Then they started the long process to develop own chips for computers and phones. Bye x86, intel, amd. Gaming pcs will be all integrated, new arch :)
It is the trend, to be US politician one has too be against China. Otherwise, the political is not patriotic. This is true for both democrat and Republican.
Nvidia ceo is taiwanese. Only uncle samji thinks a taiwanese doesn't think of himself as chinese descent. Amd ceo is nvidia ceo's cousin, also a taiwanese.
@@litesp funny thing about japan. I used to live in Hokkaido. They built a massive museum to celebrate the ainu culture (indigenous hokkaido ppl) after the whole culture is basically eradicated and largely exist only in museums.
@firstprib7742 The Japanese, do not think highly of Ainus, just as they felt the same with Chinese. But over the years since WW2, truth hits them really hard but not hard enough for them to see their own rotten life since their MEIJI rejuvenation and for the genocide they carried out in China whereat some 30 millions died from their brutal invasion.
I'm sure deep in their hearts they know they will never be Americans, just like all the 3rd generation ABC in America or any other Asians, especially the Indians from India, they lived in their fantasised lives like Nicki Halley and host of others. The Native Indians of America has been severely slaughtered like the Bisons. Those that remains and now lives on, are so subjugated with an enslaven mind, are ineffective to demand for the rightful place in American Society.
That is just half of the news. Windows is also going to be ripped and replaced by local Chinese Linux Operating Systems. Google Chrome computers definitely will never be adopted.
yea not sure how this is funny, the usa could very well become the bad guys , i mean in a more obvious direct way and just take what they want by force if they feel they have no choice and no one could do anything about it. probably best not have her caught in a corner. kinda like assaulting a bully bigger then you in school while having no teacher around to stop the ensuing ass beating.
If you can do it, so can I. And when China does it, it has real consequences. Like crashing your stock prices and even getting rid of your markets to boot😂😂😂
Decoupling ..de risking...the American are doing things at their convenience ....In a equal relationship...the other side surely got to protect themselves...😅😊
beyond prestige, what's the benefit to the phone user's experience of 5nm chips over 7nm chips? My suspicion is it's not noticeable to the human experience.
I think China can already do 5nm, just not at scale yet, allegedly. It doesn't even matter if it's true or not, this whole process of going to 7nm took like...... 2 years? This war is already over....
Thats right. For most buyers it doesnt matter. If it does then every single new phone is released 100% of people would ditch their old phones for the new one.
what I've seen is Chinese electronic devices have much longer battery life. For example, Huawei smart watch vs Apple watch or Samsung watch, DJI Action cam vs GoPro, Roborock vs Roomba Robovac. Those are not minor differences, Chinese devices are like 2x to 6x longer battery life! It's crazy!
They are a walled garden, more idiot proof than other products. They are good for people who want to use computers, but have no interest in the tech itself. Once you use them you get sucked into their ecosystem of products.
The same as what happened with Russia. They could no longer buy things in Europe, so the started making them themselves => Turned out to be very good for their ecomomy. Better growth than Europr. Predicted collapse didn't happen..
Can't wait to hear your thoughts on China's EV, because at one point cars from US, Germany, Japan, and SKorea were sought after, but more and more people within the nation are buying their own home brand because of how fast the rise of EV technology have come along. The auto industry in China is a perfect example of how the chip war will go.
Take the defense expenditures for the last 30 years and divide it by 2, then take the remainder and spend it on education, infrastructure, healthcare, research and development, incentives, ect…. What do you have - a country that could compete with China without the use of sanctions, threats, intimidation, bullying ect….
When listen to Carl Sagan, we should realise how insignificant we are in space. Let us enjoy and be tranquil. Let us have tech for all in this shared spaceship called Earth!
I import all -in-one, Chinese epos systems, those used to have intel processors, but recently, all come with a "Great Wall" or whatever CPU, and the only thing the customer notices is that those are $300-$400 cheaper than the competition.
The US and the West made one fatal assumption: everything and everyone can be bought. It looked to be true….until it met someone who wouldn’t sell and wouldn’t agree to be enslaved.
Actually Huawei just launched the Pura 70 model with the Kirin 9010 chip. It's still 7nm, but has better performance than the Kirin 9000s due to optimization. It is rumored that Huawei will launch the Mate 70 later this year with 5nm chips. We'll see. Fingers crossed.😀
@@turtlesoup8134 actually Pura 70's Kirin 9010 is still 7nm, but it has better performance than the Kirin 9000s due to optimization. It is believed that Huawei will launch the Mate70 later this year with a 5nm chip. I guess we'll see. I will most probably get one to replace my Xiaomi mix2.
If its bound by physical principles then nothing can prevent China from catching up if the US firms became lazy. Apple and Tesla cannot just take it for granted that they are going to enjoy the high profit forever. If China makes equivalent performance but a bit less elegant and compacted, yet equally reliable , for a cheaper price, people will buy it. Chips are small enough nowadays a lot of product can afford to have more than one. China also look into enhancing the experience American firms often choose to lower for the customers because they want to increase profits because lack of competition. It is sad that great companies that were innovative once gained enough ground becomes protective and just want to win the game by containing competitors.
Nominal GDP comparisons are stupid. There are no universal prices for goods and services. So a normalization procedure is required and that is know as purchasing power parity (PPP). The real (PPP) GDP of China is larger than that of the USA.
Could this POSSIBLY be related to the law which is going to be (already has been??) passed which demands that ANY US citizen or company who owns and/or controls any telecommunications equipment is required to assist NSA in spying on anybody NSA tells them to help them spy on, and they don't need a court order to demand this, and you aren't allowed to tell anybody else that NSA has made this demand of you? I think POSSIBLY China knows that NSA will (if they didn't already) demand that Intel, AMD and all other US manufacturers of telecommunications equipment help NSA to spy on China and a whole host of other countries and companies.
In the coming years, it is very likely that there will be two internets with two distinct architectures. The West is very keen on 'decoupling'. What is coming is an information curtain between the East and the West
considering how USA has been suppressing nations from rivaling USA chip manufacturing, how over priced the chips from USA are, and the lack of adaptation of chips from USA,....I can hardly wait for made in China chips to be produced and sent out, so we can finally pay a genuine price for a decent product.
I mean the fact that the cia created the world wide web and has probably had back doors in every piece of software and hardware made through the use of any popular design since its founding. I dont really blame them.
This is good news for everyone else, except the US. China making and developing Risc-V to be a competitive platform is great news for everybody. They are also boosting open source software, which is great for everybody. I sure wouldn't mind running Risc-V Linux...
x86 (Intel 64 & AMD 64) are going out of fashion. The new trend is RISC-V 64. Almost every IT company worth a dime are investing into developing their own RISC-V chip; and those not investing into RISC-V, are buying ARM chip designs. Eg: Apple, Huawei, Meta, Alphabet, Amazon, etc. ARM is a commercial fork of RISC chip. With GPUs prices skyrocketing after 2019, building Desktop Computer is a hobby that only millionaires can afford. As for Laptops, Palmtops, Wristops, & VR headsets, look forward to a world of RISC-V64 & ARM64. X86 architecture that Intel & AMD dominates, will slowly become obsolete.
China would be the world's largest economy by far when it comes to stuff (like chips), the US mainly does finance and other tertiary industry now. And weapons of course.
@@_monti142 Lol back. Oh, before we part company, just remind me again please, what are the names of Russian towns Ukraine has recently captured? How much of Russia's energy infrastructure has Ukraine destroyed? I try hard to remember, but I forget.
@@7ebr830 You're speaking with an edgy pepe frog, one of the goals with the Ukraine thing is to wear through Russian resources not to win the war. It's a long marathon not a sprint one of the best ways to defeat another is time and stamina
China is already atleast 2x US if you consider the real price difference. Services like transport is at least 5 times cheaper, building materials 3x cheaper, EVs 3x Cheaper, Hotels 3x cheaper, food and consumables 4x cheaper,
Watching a Brit call out measurements in the metric system, I was reminded of the twenty dollar bar style \ indicator needle torque wrench from Taiwan in 1989. My 6cyl 67 Chevy pickup’s final re-torque on the head after running the newly assembled engine, for a week. Bolt on the corner cracked the block. Calibrated wrong!
Technology is the great equalizer. Between races, between gender, in some instances, even between income levels. This is why government comes in heavy handed to manipulate it to shore up the positions of the Ownership Class. Name one major technological development (that didn't come from DARPA taxpayer spending) in the last 30 years.
If you look at old Trade Dollars from the 1800's, many will have Chop Marks from being spent in China. The Chop Marks were done to ensure it was silver and not counterfeit coins that Americans were famous for using in trade.
The US is making China great again. 😂
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They're really going about this "strategic competition" the wrong way. Think about how China was able to rapidly develop its technology through the purchase of foreign made equipment. Given the U.S dollar strength they could co-operate with China by building 21st century infrastructure which could benefit and make their manufacturing industries more competitive. Even if manufacturing returns to the U.S the problem is the country doesn't have enough workers to fill those jobs so it'll end hiring foreigners anyways. So it's really a self defeating policy. The U.S is just stifling its growth and innovation by pursuing this level of trade protectionism.
@@deezeed2817 Nobody in the white house understands the story of the north wind and the sun anymore.
I'd like to say diolch yn fawr to USA.
Eli needs to stop repeating CCP talking points like his NPC-esque screeching about
🤪 dUh WAyCiSMs 🤪
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On other day, I read a UA-cam comment, I thought it was funny but true. “The US empire digs its own grave. Russia hands them the shovels and the shovels were made in China.” 🤣🤣🤣
One of my favourite yt comments about amarica by an Amarican was something like this:"we live very well under the care of our mafia boss father, we don't question since there is good food on the table, but we get surprised when a brick breaks our window to hit us at "random"..."
😂😂😂
The United States has been clamoring for decoupling from China, so isn't this progress?
It is progress but not on the US's terms. lol
Trump's and now BIDEN'S Chinese tariffs cost the typical American family between $900 to $1,200 ANNUALLY!
We can expect massive Chinese sanctions and more tariffs as we approach the election.
This WILL cost Americans to the point where more families cannot afford daily essentials.
This includes increased food cost - some food comes from China.
It means your medicine will increase in price because most medicines use chemicals from China... On and on...
The American people will be the losers.
Nearly a decade of my life preparing for and working in electrical construction and being told the made in China materials was going to be new economic cooperation. Those old timers protesting the manufacturing overseas tried to warn us apprentices. At least I got to help build a few hospitals and schools etc. I had some crazy experiences with some protestors though. Our phones got hacked and deleted at the school once. The school got hacked and the instructors accused the class. A protestor stood up and said something like 'it's time we occupy democracy!'. I remember the instructor calling him an idiot as they tried to convince us to join the protest arguing that continuing to work (in construction) only supported oppression. Half of us didn't take them seriously. Long story short, instead of a world class license I got awful sick with an immune disorder and just the other day I realized my phone along with a few of us were HTC phones which got banned a few months later! What a job, what a job.
When our economies are separated, the chance for conflict increases. Just look at Russia and Iran. We don't trade much with those two so they aren't afraid to lose our business.
Very well said @@Jason-ol1ty
It's not socialism that's going to end capitalism, the US is doing the job.
The urge to keep on top will be American biggest mistake
The US has 34 Trillion dollars Debt already... The dollar is getting more and more scrutiny, to the point the countries in global south are actively seeking alternatives (As much the Interest rates in the US keep higher, more ALL OTHER countries suffer, because we need to keep our rates higher too to counter the dollar price).
Now, the Global south is simply choosing Huawei, Xiaomi, BYD, Solar Panels and so on
Here in Brazil, my Modem Wifi 6E and all Home IoT are Huawei, my smartphone Xiaomi, I see more and more BYD in the streets (and I want one hehe), Probably my solar panels will be Chinese too ... Resuming, this aggressive discourse that "China is bad" just don't sticks ... To be sincere I'm more worried about American companies and the NSA 😂 (they already spied on Brazilian Companies and Gov. ) .. and as more the US push China away and bully Chinese companies, I feel more "sympathy", because I research if what American gov. says is true... and it's not... And I think they are doing this to China Today, tomorrow will be MY COUNTRY.
what, even, is the urge to be "on top". On top of what? Who does that benefit?
@@mijmijrm This comes from the fantasy of dominance instead of comprehending the world is a balance
China's 11 Trillion debt is 3 times less than the US's 33 trillion, and the gap keeps widening. Let's see who's better off? ;D
I'm from Bangladesh and people are leaning more towards Chinese products as well. I myself did it this year. Bought a Chinese printer. Ink is cheap as hell. And it just works.
Removing these chips from intel and amd will increase the security against intrusions. This is actually huge win for China.
My main thought is that China is showing incredible patience with all these. The US has been aggressive towards them for the past 10 years, and their reaction has been minimal. You can hear over and over from the US media how China is dangerous, and yet they are the ones showing restrain.
It's Wuxia act kind of mind set. Nobility is the word.
The Chinese has an old saying, the righteous can take revenge 10 years later
China is done, the one child policy means they will have 3 retired people for every working age person within the next decade or so. There is nothing they can do to change this, this is just how demographics work ...
Have you been paying attention? From making islands on int waters to attacking philiphines multiple times. To try to restrict every ones access to says water. The usa do a lot of stupid things, but china is not saint
facts i agree
when your biggest consumer become your biggest competitor
The audacity of the US authorities talking about “We” stopped China chips evolution, then the reporter argued: We? You mean Taiwan, right? 😂😂😂
The US only blocked one country... China from the International space station. So China built and launched it's own. Pretty soon, it'll be the ONLY space station orbiting the Earth after the ISS falls apart. There's another YT channel called Inside China Business...an American living and working in China. He gives some valuable insights into the trade war, the effects if any, of sanctions and Chinese industries viewed in it's proper context.
I have followed him recently. He's pretty good.
That channel really blew up. That guy Kevin really stirs the mind with his insight and perspectives.
The world is splitting. Non Western countries are getting tired of US / EU sanctions on everything and anything.
Sp there will be the40 nations making up the west and its supporters against the rest which amounts to 140 odd countries
Not so easy. Most of the non-western world is basically the 3rd world, not a lucrative market for anyone at all. So, the idea is - to deny China access from the most lucrative market and chock their economic growth.
Don't get fooled by the GDP figures. Being from one of those 3rd world - I assure you, the biggest problem these nations has is - they don't have institutions, they don't have infrastrucure, they don't have any ecosystem at all, and are rabidly corrupted to the brim on top of that. There's no way they can build the asset class, or the necessary infrastructure to become a lucrative market anytime soon. On the retrospect, some of these 3rd world nations might get a good boost to become a developed economy and a lucrative market in a few decades.
@@aniksamiurrahman6365 it is anything but easy however China, Russia, India etc have no choice. If they don't build the necessary industries and competencies they will be essentially ruled by the West.
3rd world countries can only benefit from the competition between US and China.
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About 60% of China's exports go to Asia, most don't go to USA.
@@Anonymous------ Mostly low end products, like smartphones, computer parts etc.
China make all the products using US chips is a good deal.
Now the US is forcing China to make all the products using Chinese made chips, what an excellent idea LOL
USA. Heavy. Rock. Drop. Foot.
China does not have enough domestic demand for the products they plan to produce, all that is going to happen id like in the 80's where China and Russia was till using valves when the rest of the world had moved on to ICs. Communists don't create they just take from others, that is all part of the ideology.
Was - was a good deal.
I have to think this is intentional. Apophasia. Say one thing and do the opposite.
China might be happy to be the number 2. But USA is forcing China to become the number one. 😂
US needs China’s help with rare earths for their Military Industrial Complex to fight a war with China 🤣🤣🤣
no they do nothing
😂😂😂coz us government bannd their export, the so called high tech products, to China. Then what you expect the Chinese to do 😂😂😂
Do you forget what happened when US banned China's using international space station 😂😂😂
it's like they didn't learn anything at all
The US gov is full of dinosaurs. This tactic worked against the USSR. The US won that cold war. Trouble is, China is not the USSR.
It's called American Exceptionalism! Its pathetic & rampant racism! And collapsing in real time!
We build our own thank you ..china
Eli needs to stop repeating CCP talking points like his NPC-esque screeching about
🤪 dUh WAyCiSMs 🤪
**derp** **derp** **derp**
Doc : "No wonder this thing broke, it says : 'Made in China'"
Marty : "What are you saying Doc ? In 2030 all the best stuff is made in China !"
Doc : "Great Scott !"
@@seantewillis exactly. China made those products according to specs. Meanwhile Walmart is laughing all the way to the bank. I am living in China too and I only buy high quality products. I'll leave shit products for export to America lol
@@seantewillis American companies wanted products for next-to-nothing to maximize profit. They go what they paid for. I doubt any country could produce equal quality for the same price as the Chinese. Apple products are some of the best quality in the world and made in China. These don't come cheap, especially considering Apple's high profit margin.
Chinese companies can make products at any price point, up to you. If you want to pay peanuts then expect them to give you monkeys in return.
@@raymondtay9442 to pay peanuts is what Mr Patel would do lol. White man gets on the phone and says I'll pay $2.50 for this, Mr Patel will say I'll pay $1😂🤣😂.lots of factories reject Mr Patel. Oh Mr Patel owns the dollar stores in America lol
@@raymondtay9442 pay good meat get lion in return 🤌🏻
USA mindset: if we ban China getting sth. then China will never have them. hahahahaha
China: seriously?
China: Hold my tea 😂
That sound exactly how a narcissist will act to their victims.
The dinosaurs in Congress may wake up to reality in 5 years time...
Five years will be three years too late.
Five years is pretty generous.
You may as well keep sleeping it will too late to wake up after 5years. American, You have your a chance to change in the next few months to get the right leader, if you get it wrong again, you may as well go to sleep.
They look like fosil, they think 🤔 like fosil, they're fosil
Those congressman only serve minority capitalist, they don't care much on common individuals
US just woke up the Sleeping Giant, great work US. Thumbs up
Yeah, cause the bear and the lion wasn't enough, let's go for the dragon too... at the same time!
A sleeping giant because they will soon all be too old to work, soon enough there will be three retired people for every working person.
@@nigelrhodes4330
You have never heard of something called robotic automated manufacturing. Even many restaurants in China are using robots to cook and serve food.
@@lorenam8028 Bear and lion?
Sleeping Giants!! Europeans spent centuries dividing the middle east so they don't bully Europeans like they used to, now the US is 2% favoured by the entire populations!!!! All time low!!!!!!!
They strengthened Iran and Arabia, a simple regime change for Arabia that reflects the people's desires and strong opinions against the US.....
Damn...
And also India, by waking up China, India also need to step up....
Damn...
Africa.....
Literally the world's future market is at odds with the west and favours Chinese, Russian and middle eastern investors.....
Damn....
Latin Amaricans are now more pro China than ever!!! And they keep getting alienated by the US....
Damn....
Europe are now seeking independence in military and economic fields...
And even flirting with the Chinese and middle easterners......
Damn....
Dude, the US is literally isolating itself by itself while pretending they're smart and strategic...
Bruh...
China has been forced to develop parallel processing architecture. From now on, every improvement in processors will plug into that architecture.
Its the old great formula of " Necessity is the Mother of Invention, did the same to Russia, and Russia is doing fine, as Russian Money is staying in Russia opening factories and service centres. Same will happen in China, the SAFE-RETURN on investment will be greater.
Most parallel processors are developed by AMD and Nvidia and those are fabricated in Taiwan. Which is the real capital of China as opposed to the Usurper Beijing.
@@nustada dude learn history please... Those taiwanese are runaway people from mainland China (China Political War democratic vs Socialist)and Beijing have Forbidden City the Capital of Ancient China....
@@kasmidjan Nothing you said contradicts what I said. Learn words please, you are not smart.
@@nustada then why you said taiwan is "real capital of china" ?
Since when capital of china move to taiwan ? Last time i check chinese imperial palace since ancient time is in Mainland
If you wrote taipei is real capital of taiwan then i dont mind it
Last year some gurus from US government medias believed China cannot build high power chips in 3-4 years. But now we have seen what China can do!!!
From the day 5g came from Chinese, I already expect China will slowly and firmly leads the way
I seriously wish China, if they want to, to de-couple from US and be completely independent. They have 1.4B population and honestly, as they grown more sophisticated (and faster due to US sanctions), they can survive this without the US. Heck, US only have 1/4 of China population and is self combusting with mountain of debts. US relevance in the world is diminishing (other than military which they self proclaim to be number one) and G7 GDP is dwarfed in comparison to BRICS and the gap is just going to get wider.
US ain't have good leadership. Majority of the politicians are under private companies payroll. None of them care shit about the citizens. Talk and talk but very little action or results shown. Build Back Better, remember? What happen to the money? Where did it go to? Where's the infrastructure?
For "China's national security", where did we hear such a similar phrase?😁
China is just being sarcastic. They need to replace those outdated parts anyway.
America, enjoy the good times while it lasts. The oncoming train's whistle has been heard.
Most people have no idea about how hard things will get in the next few years, and that will boil over all the tensions of the last 15 years.
Monkees. Take the last train to Clarksville
China is not planning but executing its plan and is expected to be completed by 2027. The US is to be blamed for these consequences.
Yeah, they already tried that a few years ago and aside from burning a lot of cash didn't really go anywhere.
@@tortenschachtel9498 Didn't go anywhere? When the sanction was first put in, China can't even madke 14nm. Now, China is self-sufficient on 14nm. The new Huawei phones use 7nm chip.
I love it. They're isolating China which is bad news for Americans. What happens when you make 1.4 billion very smart people angry? Let's see.
@@tortenschachtel9498without TSCM help, Intel woild have been at the same level as Chinas SMIC.
@@tortenschachtel9498Well U$ is making China great again by sanctions, tariffs and warmongering. Now U$ has united China and they WILL phase out Intel and AMD. Nice dumb moves by a U$ declining nation.
Thumps up to China
Watching from China, I work directly within the industry connecting Americans with China's industrial sector. What America is doing right now is plain self-destructive. There is a mistaken assumption that America outsources to China because everything is cheap here, but the reality is that many of the commodities, vital components, machinery, skills, and technologies available in China are only found here. If you remove China as a supplier, your whole "American" business model falls apart. Just ask Bezos, Elon, Walmart, Disney, and every single hardware or tech company out there.
Despite what these delusional warmongers say, both countries are dependent on each other. Honestly, I see China as bound to win this challenge, as the U.S. has become a deindustrialized nation. Both countries should be friends and even allies, working together to lift the rest of humanity forward.
There is no evil on this side, just retaliatory feelings to the hate. These feelings can easily go away with mutual respect.
If this goes on another 10 years, the US-China relationship will be broken forever, like US-Russia.
The usa elites dont understand respect and friendship. They understand power and nothing else
They are also banning boeing and airbus from their airspace for security reasons. These planes have spying cameras and are bugged to listen in on passengers. 😂😂
Airbus is not banned and airbus has assembly factories all over China
Boeing are iphones with wings- can be instructed to crash all over China- as per the logic of Gina Raimondo
A tin can is sturdier than Boeing any country would have doubts on the company planes robustness
COMAC will replace them in due time.
Boeing is literally falling apart.. plane doors falling off, plane wheels falling off ua-cam.com/video/tdOt_VcQ9A8/v-deo.html
...worse quality than cheap Chinese goods.
definitely ban Boeing, never mind about the spying, worry about them falling from the sky.
AMD, INTC Slip as China Moves Away from Western Tech
China officials tell telecom carriers to phase out foreign chips by 2027.
This is U$A dream come true ..
China helping U$A to stop chip companies from supplying Chinese companies.
So great to see the two governments working together.
Taiwan makes the chips. And when it comes to fisticuffs its not clear where they will side.
American politicians: "Chn 'll cry & beg us...hua..ha..ha.."
Chn: " Ok...lets start the game.." 😢
The best part is China is moving towards Linux ... what a new world with free and open source software
Looks like the US semiconductor companies lost its biggest customer. Most of these processors are used to make computers, and other electronic equipment. There is no electronics industry in the US, so what happens when these chips can't be used?
You make chip fabs in the US, and most of these chips can't be used. What a disaster.
Get ready for $5000 laptops and iphones - lol
@@michaeltse321 The only market for $5,000 smartphones and laptops will be the US, because they couldn't export any of that and sell it at those high prices.
People would be keeping their smartphones and computers longer and buy fewer of them as a result.
taiwan is making motherboards...vietnam is there too...and other places china stole business of...just remember who made electronics in 80s and 90s
@@ivok9846 Most of the components and parts used in Vietnam and Taiwan is from China. LOL
@@Ace1000ks19751982 china is not the only mfr of (passive) components. but surely is crappiest.
USA not only woke up the dragon, but fed him and then poked him, what was US waiting for? the dragon spitting gold?
😂😂😂true....but to be used by the US.
Unfortunately the Dragon decided not to jump (unlike Japan & Germany) when the US order it to do so!
@@soonpohtay4794 It somewhat does what kind of statement is that from a propagandist. China does what Russia requests as Russia has the military power and is practicing with a traditional war with troops in Ukraine.
Russia is a military threat, China is an economic threat both need each other take one out poof
The US fed the dragon? What a load of bs
@@peanut0brainask Cisco and come back educated.
@@a.tevetoglu3366 I don't see any western foreigners in China picking up the shovel and building stuff so stop the bs. Chinese built China.
China just doing US politicians a favor, so they don’t have to waste more time on discussing of banning chips to China. Perhaps, the US politicians will have more time to focus on a real issue occurring in US now. Like homelessness, gun violence, drug issues, zero dollar shopping, infrastructure, and so on.
Now i know why this type of host cant be found in the White House which is overflowing with the opposite type. He is too intelligent & speak the brutal truth!
I have seen it said that Intel chips have a back door hardwired in, not heard much about this with AMD but it wouldn't surprise me.
Yep. They all do. You have to go back to P3 or P4 to avoid it. Good luck!
Spectre and meltdown vulnerbility
That's the main reason why Russia and China are dumping these chips.
why you think they call it intel inside, your computer brain is spying on you no protection will make you safe from a hardware open backdoor
Leadership in both China and the US want us to believe that China is the second largest economy. That has not been true for several years, PPP is a far better measure. China has far more economic activity, they produce stuff....
You are 100% right sir, maybe except for Cisco at least assembly is done in Thailand for some products. However as someone working for Huawei, I j can just say, it's nice to hear truth along the propaganda and fear tactics.
Kishore Mabubahni is also super vise to listen to. Especially on the China topic. Recommend to see his points vs the US so called 'China Expert' a few weeks ago... US imperialists is failing and seems US economy will collapse even IMF warns us last week... 🤦
The danger is in 2027 upward when China 🇨🇳 flooded with Cheaper and Better Products Hmmmm... It's not 27% lost, could be a 90% lost ❤😂🎉😅😊
why 2027
@@user-rg1rj1dm3p if China 🇨🇳 said to Remove till 2027 meaning China 🇨🇳 is ready to replacing all by 2027... Is only 3 years from now to catch up 👆
Nah!. Ain't going to happen!. They will be crippled in industry. Demented as the old man. China has very lousy software development and shall remain so. AGI will change them forever.
@@Placid_Cat This is America. American politicians think only to the next election cycle... 2 years/4 years. And American CEO only think as far as the next quarter.. 3 months. Long term planing does not exist.
@@user-rg1rj1dm3p that's the deadline the CCP gave telecoms companies to stop using US designed chips.
Protectionism is what did for the USSR.
China is not ripping them off- just a precaution that USA may at a flick- decide to ban the supply of them chips- safer to replace them now so as not be caught unprepared.
You de-risking me I de-risking you. It's really stupid!
@@michaell4034Its not that at all- china was sanctioned- chip sale ban, space station ban, GPS ban, ban ban ban etc google ban
China has no option but just make their own things and get rid of unreliable suppliers
I’m 46 and I remember China having a reputation for making cheap crap. That’s no longer the case.
There is a video that came out saying over 50% of the world’s top AI brains are Chinese. That applies to America as well, just because you see some European looking guy talking about AI in the media doesn’t mean he is the brain behind it, he is just a spokesman if you know what I mean.
Yep... When you do everything to p!$s off your biggest customer, don't be surprised that this is the result. It would be helpful that every politicians has a basic physics education and learn that "For every action theres a opposite reaction"
They are supposed to be lawyers..who lie to get the job done.
2024 Japanese consumer electronic line ... Sony / Panasonic / Sharp / Hitachi / Toshiba etc ... Ask any teens about these company ... majority will reply " Who's are they ? "
They may know Sony and Panasonic, but not the rest of the list.
No kids won't know about Sony. Sony is a popular brand. They still know about Sony, Panasonic, Canon, Nikon.
Just because China is having a good economy right now does not mean that most people in the world know the names of Chinese brands more than Japan. It may have Made in China on it but that doesn't mean that specific brand is a Chinese brand. It's like saying Samsung is a Chinese brand just because there's a Made in China on Samsung products.
You Chinese are getting cocky day by day even though the foundation of China to become powerful in the tech industry was copying and stealing from other countries. I remember a lot of Chinese companies copying and stealing from Japan IPs in 1980's. For example, TDK sued TCL for intellectual property violation in 1985. Most of the Chinese things are copies of Japanese concepts, designs, styles including video games, animation, comics, cars, electronics, bullet trains, and etc.
I expect the Chinese to be humble people but I'd never knew Chinese can be so arrogant and acting all high and mighty as if they're following US footsteps
@@erenyeagerist7681
You are soooooo far off from the point of OP.
@@erenyeagerist7681how did the USA become powerful in the 20s and 30s ? Oh they copied technology from Europe and the UK ,how did Japan become powerful in the 1980s ? Oh they copied technology from the USA and the west ....,china did the same in the 90s and the 00s , so China will rise like the USA and Japan , the only difference is that China is big enough to sustain itself ....doesn't need west to keep its economy going ....the people who are "cocky" is people like yourself in the west , who think the world revolves around yourselves ....the current situations in Ukraine and Gaza and the rise of the BRICS says otherwise ...
Ukraine doesn't want American drones because of poor quality. They want DJI drones.
Actually the US has some very high quality military drones, but they are expensive AF. For the price of one US drone ($50k) they can get 100 cheaper DJI's ($500/each).
@@BillAnt you are slow isn't it..... military drone and commercial drone are different.....the drone that are being used in Ukraine/Russian war is mostly commercial drone.....
@@worldwideweb9431 - Yeah I'm slow, too bad you can't comprehend what I wrote. smh
@@BillAnt I know what you wrote.....in that case china too had military drone cheaper maybe then America but that is not used in war in Ukraine/Russia so what your points ....
Do you even know what the real thopic was about,so why bring out of context military drone here ...and it's not world's problem everys thing in America is pricer then rest of the world's.....just a few days I saw a girl from American complaining about single apple(fruit )price which cost 7 dollar ....no wonder you guys are dumper and look every things as your point of view.
China got hit with access denied to advanced western chips. Its response: first replace imports of legacy chips with own production. This was already a disaster for western chipmakers. Then they started the long process to develop own chips for computers and phones. Bye x86, intel, amd. Gaming pcs will be all integrated, new arch :)
It is the trend, to be US politician one has too be against China. Otherwise, the political is not patriotic. This is true for both democrat and Republican.
Nvidia ceo is taiwanese. Only uncle samji thinks a taiwanese doesn't think of himself as chinese descent. Amd ceo is nvidia ceo's cousin, also a taiwanese.
West taiwan is having internal troubles everyone knows with authoritarian clan and Xi running it
I'm a Californian, but I still see myself as an American. Taiwanese are Chinese. Okinawans, however, do not see themselves as Japanese.
@@litesp funny thing about japan. I used to live in Hokkaido. They built a massive museum to celebrate the ainu culture (indigenous hokkaido ppl) after the whole culture is basically eradicated and largely exist only in museums.
@firstprib7742 The Japanese, do not think highly of Ainus, just as they felt the same with Chinese. But over the years since WW2, truth hits them really hard but not hard enough for them to see their own rotten life since their MEIJI rejuvenation and for the genocide they carried out in China whereat some 30 millions died from their brutal invasion.
I'm sure deep in their hearts they know they will never be Americans, just like all the 3rd generation ABC in America or any other Asians, especially the Indians from India, they lived in their fantasised lives like Nicki Halley and host of others. The Native Indians of America has been severely slaughtered like the Bisons. Those that remains and now lives on, are so subjugated with an enslaven mind, are ineffective to demand for the rightful place in American Society.
That is just half of the news. Windows is also going to be ripped and replaced by local Chinese Linux Operating Systems. Google Chrome computers definitely will never be adopted.
Although understandable, the Windows part is a pity because Windows always had a very favorable attitude towards China.
My Irish grandma always says, "When you cut the hand that feeds you, you are going to starve".... So true....every word....😊😊😊😊
the chinese government is playing the same game as uncle sam 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
yea not sure how this is funny, the usa could very well become the bad guys , i mean in a more obvious direct way and just take what they want by force if they feel they have no choice and no one could do anything about it. probably best not have her caught in a corner. kinda like assaulting a bully bigger then you in school while having no teacher around to stop the ensuing ass beating.
If you can do it, so can I. And when China does it, it has real consequences. Like crashing your stock prices and even getting rid of your markets to boot😂😂😂
Don't trifle with a market 4 times your size. That is not wise, is it? Full of arrogance. One day will eat humble pie soon enough.
Decoupling ..de risking...the American are doing things at their convenience ....In a equal relationship...the other side surely got to protect themselves...😅😊
beyond prestige, what's the benefit to the phone user's experience of 5nm chips over 7nm chips? My suspicion is it's not noticeable to the human experience.
I think it uses less energy and heats less
I think China can already do 5nm, just not at scale yet, allegedly. It doesn't even matter if it's true or not, this whole process of going to 7nm took like...... 2 years? This war is already over....
Thats right. For most buyers it doesnt matter. If it does then every single new phone is released 100% of people would ditch their old phones for the new one.
More attention is able to be extracted out of a human
what I've seen is Chinese electronic devices have much longer battery life. For example, Huawei smart watch vs Apple watch or Samsung watch, DJI Action cam vs GoPro, Roborock vs Roomba Robovac. Those are not minor differences, Chinese devices are like 2x to 6x longer battery life! It's crazy!
I've never owned an Apple product, probably never will. I never understood the hype over I-phones, and Macs.
They are a walled garden, more idiot proof than other products. They are good for people who want to use computers, but have no interest in the tech itself. Once you use them you get sucked into their ecosystem of products.
It started with the rust belt and steel making, Now it will soon be happening in the Silicon Industry.
It's almost like politicians are short sighted and out of touch.
I wanna buy a brand new Chinese car for under 8 grand but my government will not allow me
Brutaly honest. Thank you........Shit, we're fucked!
The same as what happened with Russia. They could no longer buy things in Europe, so the started making them themselves => Turned out to be very good for their ecomomy. Better growth than Europr. Predicted collapse didn't happen..
Can't wait to hear your thoughts on China's EV, because at one point cars from US, Germany, Japan, and SKorea were sought after, but more and more people within the nation are buying their own home brand because of how fast the rise of EV technology have come along. The auto industry in China is a perfect example of how the chip war will go.
Take the defense expenditures for the last 30 years and divide it by 2, then take the remainder and spend it on education, infrastructure, healthcare, research and development, incentives, ect…. What do you have - a country that could compete with China without the use of sanctions, threats, intimidation, bullying ect….
When listen to Carl Sagan, we should realise how insignificant we are in space. Let us enjoy and be tranquil. Let us have tech for all in this shared spaceship called Earth!
I import all -in-one, Chinese epos systems, those used to have intel processors, but recently, all come with a "Great Wall" or whatever CPU, and the only thing the customer notices is that those are $300-$400 cheaper than the competition.
Good video, Eli, I agree that some of us are aweken. It's really nasty what's going on. They cause this on themselves.
"May thy Fab chip and shatter."😁
ahhahah
top comment xD
The congress is more obsessed giving our tax to Israel and Ukraine 😢
US should be happy with this news bcoz Chn is helping US to achieve her objectives
All ancient dinosaurs in Congress. 😂😂
"Joe Biden & JFK, I don't know how those names go together..."
A: Both are legally brain dead
The US and the West made one fatal assumption: everything and everyone can be bought.
It looked to be true….until it met someone who wouldn’t sell and wouldn’t agree to be enslaved.
The politician's system is outdated and does worse than it does good. We need a new system!
Ditched intel years ago can't wait to ditch AMD. Still waiting for Harmony.
When the going gets tough, the tough gets going . Change your leaders 🇺🇸
China has some interesting chips they designed and manufactured themselves. They even have chips coming close to the performance of Nvidia's chips.
The Huawei Mate70 launching in September with a 5nm chip, the Kirin 9010 is confirmed. See where this is going?
huh? Pura 70 is already launched with Kirin 9010 and its 3nm, not 5. The US is too chicken to report it.
Actually Huawei just launched the Pura 70 model with the Kirin 9010 chip. It's still 7nm, but has better performance than the Kirin 9000s due to optimization. It is rumored that Huawei will launch the Mate 70 later this year with 5nm chips. We'll see. Fingers crossed.😀
@@turtlesoup8134 actually Pura 70's Kirin 9010 is still 7nm, but it has better performance than the Kirin 9000s due to optimization. It is believed that Huawei will launch the Mate70 later this year with a 5nm chip. I guess we'll see. I will most probably get one to replace my Xiaomi mix2.
They are poking the dragon and they can't stand the heat.
If its bound by physical principles then nothing can prevent China from catching up if the US firms became lazy. Apple and Tesla cannot just take it for granted that they are going to enjoy the high profit forever. If China makes equivalent performance but a bit less elegant and compacted, yet equally reliable , for a cheaper price, people will buy it. Chips are small enough nowadays a lot of product can afford to have more than one. China also look into enhancing the experience American firms often choose to lower for the customers because they want to increase profits because lack of competition.
It is sad that great companies that were innovative once gained enough ground becomes protective and just want to win the game by containing competitors.
Nominal GDP comparisons are stupid. There are no universal prices for goods and services. So a normalization procedure is required and that is know as purchasing power parity (PPP). The real (PPP) GDP of China is larger than that of the USA.
Biden is the opposite of JFK…. JFK was the youngest president, while Biden is currently the oldest.
Biden's also heartless, soulless, senile, cruel, ignorant.
less revenue means less money for R&D.
Could this POSSIBLY be related to the law which is going to be (already has been??) passed which demands that ANY US citizen or company who owns and/or controls any telecommunications equipment is required to assist NSA in spying on anybody NSA tells them to help them spy on, and they don't need a court order to demand this, and you aren't allowed to tell anybody else that NSA has made this demand of you? I think POSSIBLY China knows that NSA will (if they didn't already) demand that Intel, AMD and all other US manufacturers of telecommunications equipment help NSA to spy on China and a whole host of other countries and companies.
In the coming years, it is very likely that there will be two internets with two distinct architectures. The West is very keen on 'decoupling'. What is coming is an information curtain between the East and the West
considering how USA has been suppressing nations from rivaling USA chip manufacturing, how over priced the chips from USA are, and the lack of adaptation of chips from USA,....I can hardly wait for made in China chips to be produced and sent out, so we can finally pay a genuine price for a decent product.
At last at long long last, a self-thinkng american who actually knows reality of China and speaks facts.
I mean the fact that the cia created the world wide web and has probably had back doors in every piece of software and hardware made through the use of any popular design since its founding. I dont really blame them.
how am I not discover your channel earlier? your take is so spot on, like your style!
This is good news for everyone else, except the US. China making and developing Risc-V to be a competitive platform is great news for everybody. They are also boosting open source software, which is great for everybody.
I sure wouldn't mind running Risc-V Linux...
If you repeat one thing 10000 times, you will be the master. China probably repeated 1000000 times.
x86 (Intel 64 & AMD 64) are going out of fashion. The new trend is RISC-V 64.
Almost every IT company worth a dime are investing into developing their own RISC-V chip; and those not investing into RISC-V, are buying ARM chip designs. Eg: Apple, Huawei, Meta, Alphabet, Amazon, etc. ARM is a commercial fork of RISC chip.
With GPUs prices skyrocketing after 2019, building Desktop Computer is a hobby that only millionaires can afford. As for Laptops, Palmtops, Wristops, & VR headsets, look forward to a world of RISC-V64 & ARM64. X86 architecture that Intel & AMD dominates, will slowly become obsolete.
We chinese are so glad that you are not president of the stupid White House administration now. If not we will be in big trouble. 😂😂
China would be the world's largest economy by far when it comes to stuff (like chips), the US mainly does finance and other tertiary industry now. And weapons of course.
Russia has also shown that those weapons are not fabulous. It's end-of-empire time.
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Lol back.
Oh, before we part company, just remind me again please, what are the names of Russian towns Ukraine has recently captured?
How much of Russia's energy infrastructure has Ukraine destroyed?
I try hard to remember, but I forget.
@@7ebr830 You're speaking with an edgy pepe frog, one of the goals with the Ukraine thing is to wear through Russian resources not to win the war. It's a long marathon not a sprint one of the best ways to defeat another is time and stamina
China is already atleast 2x US if you consider the real price difference. Services like transport is at least 5 times cheaper, building materials 3x cheaper, EVs 3x Cheaper, Hotels 3x cheaper, food and consumables 4x cheaper,
Watching a Brit call out measurements in the metric system, I was reminded of the twenty dollar bar style \ indicator needle torque wrench from Taiwan in 1989. My 6cyl 67 Chevy pickup’s final re-torque on the head after running the newly assembled engine, for a week. Bolt on the corner cracked the block. Calibrated wrong!
Commenting to support Father Eli! Lol Keep going Eli!
Huawei Harmony OS is a system that can adapt itself to whichever device it put in. So that that.
@@eye776 The Harmony OS is already running in many EVs now, and these EVs are selling like hot cakes because of these Huawei OS
Technology is the great equalizer. Between races, between gender, in some instances, even between income levels. This is why government comes in heavy handed to manipulate it to shore up the positions of the Ownership Class. Name one major technological development (that didn't come from DARPA taxpayer spending) in the last 30 years.
You present very well, you appear natural and sincere.
If you look at old Trade Dollars from the 1800's, many will have Chop Marks from being spent in China. The Chop Marks were done to ensure it was silver and not counterfeit coins that Americans were famous for using in trade.
Haven’t seen Eli the computer guys videos in a long time nice to see that you are still here 😀
OBiden wants to rip out all the gantries used to load and unload shipping containers. Up to 17 million each. so smart.
It’s ELI the IT guy! I remember watching your videos in uni. Love everything you’re doing!