You sure do deserve an subscribe. Such a damn good video and well explained and all the camera angles there to show how you did. Sure will be using this video as a guide when replacing the brakes for my 718!
Thanks for making this video. I'm replacing my pads and this was really helpful. I also envy your attention to detail. Looks really good.
You do a great job, very clean way of doing a break job, I will have to try those cleaners and techniques. Thanks for doing the video.
Very well done. Thanks for sharing this, it will make the job so much easier for me later this year when I do my 997.
Fantastic video! Thanks for sharing this and the details! Looks great!
Nice job Bobby, those new rotors do look good on your car. Glad that was a little easier than your plenum install.
Great videos!
I've watched a couple of your videos as I was looking to change out my AOS, but that one looks like a PITA, but at least it's a challenge. I also like seeing someone else wearing Olukai slippers, I wear mine all over the place even when going out for dinner...if I can get it past my wife! Those are to most comfortable slippers along with my Crocs.
Haha yes I love them! I’d wear them everywhere if I could. Thanks for the comment.
Terrific video. Great detail and camera work. One tip, I would recommend being extremely careful to keep any solvents and lubricants off the contact surfaces of the pads and disks as that will dramatically affect bedding and performance. Don't even touch them if you can avoid it as you may have something on your gloves or hands. In case anyone is trying this for the first time. You did this like a pro, even with flip flops! ;)
Another great video. I did my front brakes and rotors last month on my 991.1. You might look into getting a Quickjack they are great for lifting our cars. $1099 at Costco delivered
Keith Greer thank you! And thanks for the tip. I’ve seen them on UA-cam. Had no idea Costco carried them. Thank you.
Great video. I was going to do the Girodisc but decided to use the Porsche rotors and Ferodo DS2500 pads. The money saved with using the Porsche rotors I bought the DSC Sport controller for the PASM. The install looks pretty straight forward but my GTS has CL wheels so would have to buy the mega TQ wrench.
Allan Kozich that wrench has got to be pricy but your wheels are sure nice! Thanks for the comment!
Those look awesome! I have a 2002 911 and my dad just bought a 2018 white with dark blue top. I think he should upgrade his, these would look really good with these.
You need to get yourself a wheel hanger guide bolt. Basically it is a stud you can thread in to help you re-mount your wheel. I like using two, so it aligns the wheel before you slide it up against the rotor. It makes it much easier to mount and align the wheels. Nice video
Timothy Gould thanks! I got one after this video. What a difference! Saw the dealer use it. Never knew they existed. Thanks for the comment!!
Also, its a good idea to put some synthetic brake lube on the back of the pads and around where the pads contact the retention springs to reduce brake squeal
Keith Greer I head that, however Girodisc said it shouldn’t be necessary. So far, 50 miles no noise at all. If they start though I’ll do that. Thanks again.
looking forward to your third radiator upgrade. A guy on Rennlist just put up the procedure to do it the other day. @@bobbygfl
Keith Greer oh cool. Do you have the link? I’d love to look it over. I’m a bit intimidated as there are no instructions- zero. Learn as you go program
You should use actual brake paste, not brake fluid. Brake fluid is really corrosive stuff. Liqui-Moly 3077 is what you want.
If no one’s mentioned it, the trick to vag style connector is to compress the seals fitting together like you’re trying to plug it in harder. Then push the release tab and pull. Works every time.
Thanks, love your videos. Just want to confirm there is no need to put the car in e brake service mode for the rear brakes and rotors…I guess if you don’t ever put it in service mode then there’s nothing to calibrate when you’re finished…thanks!
No I did not put in service mode or do anything with the computer when I made this upgrade and I’ve had zero issues. Thank you for the compliment
I gotta tell you man I have never seen anyone put these amazing track rotors on for looks lol. Good for you if you like the way it looks imo the OEM rotors look better.
Someone said that a car meet. Lol. Yep, just for looks. But the silence has been nice. Zero noise. And they stop great. So all around I guess but I’d never track the car. Fully embraced the garage queen concept lol!
Thanks for this fantastic video. Really. This is so so helpful. Have you thought of Tarrett caliper bolts?
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They're actually studs that are permanently bolted in so that your caliper just slides on and off of them.
Porsche actually recommends replacing the factory caliper bolts every time you remove them since they are susceptible to wear and tear. I'm going to install the Taretts when I changed out my rotors. The link to the Tarrett bolts is below:
www.tarett.com/items/996-997-991-products/996-997-991-engine~trans~brakes~electrical/brake-caliper-stud-kit-bcsk-detail.htm?__utma=138686133.1285715911.1589406346.1589406346.1589406346.1&__utmb=138686133.2.10.1589406346&__utmc=138686133&__utmx=-&__utmz=138686133.1589406346.1.1.utmcsr=6speedonline.com|utmccn=(referral)|utmcmd=referral|utmcct=/forums/991/358797-has-anyone-done-brake-caliper-stud-conversion.html&__utmv=-&__utmk=268315598
looks almost as nice as my carbon ceramic brakes... very nice.
SJ I love those. They look so great. I love the yellow also. Thanks for the comment.
Not much to see with ceramics, just a dark grey disc. But I guess your ceramic discs probably looks almost as nice as the CNC rotor hats on my Surface Transform CCST discs...
My PCCBs are 380 and don’t corrode! And in factory installed pads still at 135,000 miles. Invest in a couple of wheel hangers to make de-installation and re-installation much easier and far little risk to wheels and components. Overall a nice video but invest in more lighting!
Great video,
Question: Do you see significant drop of oem brake dust? It is insane amount of brake dust in my 991.2. Also sqeak noise. Can you also share part number for those rotors and wire parts? Thank you!!!
jimmy lee yes. There’s significantly less dust and as you know from the video I used the stock pads. If you go to Girodisc.com you’ll be able to easily get the most current part number. Also, suncoastparts.com or pelican parts.com for the sensors. I actually got one sensor from the dealer because I ruined it. cost difference wasn’t significant enough to reorder.
It’s a lot easier to install your wheels if you use one of those wheel rim guides that screw into your hub and then you take it out once you get the other bolts in way easierI don’t know about the 9/11 but it comes with a Boxster tool kit
Thanks for this video, so helpful! Long term update please...some say those anodized hats can discolor, how are yours looking now? Also, still rattle/noise free on the rings/hardware?
Zero discoloration. Zero rattling. They perform like the day I put them on. Really really happy with this modification.
Very helpful video! I recently purchased a 911 and I know eventually I will need to replace the front brakes. Luckily the rears were done recently. Just curious, you did remove the duct tape at the rears right? 🙂
alexistheghostman ha. Yes I did. Thanks for the comment. Easy do it yourself project.
Great video, thanks for making! By any chance do you have parts list? Like spacers, bolts, etc...
Ruben Hakopian thank you! everything came from Girodisc and was included in the kit. Give them a call. They are super helpful. I think I called at least two or three times leading up to my purchase.
Believe that rotor is on the wrong side,. The slots should be scooping air nor deflecting it-that’s how I remember which side to put them on. -Porsche by far the easiest car to maintain. I do a foot in 15 minutes, takes hours on my Prius.
For the rears, did you not have to take off the brake line bracket like you did on the front when you removed the caliper?
John Oh I believe because the caliper is smaller there’s enough slack so you don’t need to remove it. That’s the way I remember it anyway. Hope that helps!!
Excellent video and comment responses. I have a 2012 991 that I purchased new (same color as yours). Your upgrade would suit my 991 well. What was your total cost (not tools) for all the parts? If you're able to itemise, that would be great. I'm wondering what the difference in cost would be against the pricing from my local Porsche independent shop.
Jeff DeLisle I’m sorry but I really don’t know. I didn’t keep track of cost. The price for the disks, pads came from pelican parts on line. The sensors came from my local dealer. I think that’s it. I hope that helps. Thanks for the comment.
This model of Porsche is very nice. I am Italian, and honestly I prefer manual cars (in Italy they definitely go for the biggest). In the last part of the video, you do the test drive, and you drive with the flip-flops: do you drive in comfort like this? Have you ever tried to drive barefoot? In this way, there is more feeling and grip on the pedals. Especially with this very sporty driving style.
Crosley Start agreed manual is best! I’ve driven barefoot and do see how there’s more feeling, but prefer shoes or flip flops. Thanks for the view and comment!
YOLOfotos: Thank you for your reply. I am glad that you too, like me, like to drive the manual cars, which in my opinion, give the real pleasure of driving in every sense, especially give us the opportunity to change gear when we want it. As for the driving barefoot, I prefer it for the simple reason that I have the best feeling with the pedal, and then I feel better engine, through direct contact with the pedals. The flip-flops ... I can drive with the flip-flops, but I had some negative experiences: suddenly the flip-flops had slipped off my foot, and I risked not managing the car anymore.
I installed Girodisc for my 981 boxster, but realized you had to bend the rear brake line a little bit because the caliper has a spacer now. Do you have the same issue?
I do not recall bending anything but it would not patter if you needed to that. Just check for leaking over the next month or so.
Great video man!
I have a 991.1 C4S too installed forged wheels on that car and it feels like a new car again with the un-sprung weight reduction. I was wondering how much of an effect did you feel with the rotors was it noticeable? thanks.
Use the porsche tire mounting 5" lug it's in your tool kit save stress and is easier.
Sean Denny I got one of those after I did this job. I saw at a dealer. Never knew anything like existed!
@@bobbygfl Wheel hangers are really nice - and important. I always use two so I don't damage a disc. On a car with ceramic discs, a wheel bumping the disc can easily chip it.
What Brand Rotors you are using here? Wondering if they have same model for Cayenne or not, thank you.
With the stock pads and Girodisc upgrade are you noticing less brake dust on the wheels?
Yes. Significantly less. I think the holes add to the dust. I’m so happy with this change.
Well done, and I am going to attempt on my very similar 911. Did you need to reset the computer, or place into a service mode? I am told this is required?
Thanks again!
No I did not reset the computer or put it in service mode. I appreciate the compliment it was a pretty easy job. The breaking improvement is incredible. And there is far less dust with the stock pads.
Great Video! Job is too much for me, I'll just get the Giro Brakes and bring it to someone more capable than me. Lol
Btw, have you noticed a performance improvement with the new brakes??
At this point, the video is about 4 years old; wondering if you have any long-term test or review notes to add.
I love them. I have done nothing to them. They don’t squeak they don’t produce as much dust. They grip really well. I’m so glad that I made this change. They also look great. In my opinion anyway, thanks for asking. I’m still a fan I seriously have not done anything to them.
use a Wheel Lug Bolt Guide to put wheels back on... you'll get it on Amazon... you're welcome!
Fartem Thedj I got one after I saw the dealer use it during my alignment and new tire video. Never seen one before! Thanks for the comment. That little thing is brilliant!!
The sensors should be installed on the pads before you install the pads. Then fed through the CALIPER as you insert the pads. That way the sensor wire ends up underneath the pad spring. Compare 31:57 and 40:46 Spot the difference?
Spot on. Also, it is not very hard to get the sensors out of the pads. Many of us who uses aftermarket pads has to reuse the sensors, especially those of us who run ceramics. Problem is that some manufactures like for my car, only sell the sensors with the pads.
Another nice video - do you feel the break performance with this set up is better compared to the OEM ? I have a 991.2 from last year and I have been thinking about different mods for the future so I am happy that I found your channel
Anders Jensen thanks! I am planning another leather video once the parts arrive! Anyway the breaking performance seems to be better. They are definitely grabier if that makes any sense. Every once in a while my old stock brakes would squeak just slightly. These brakes are completely silent. I went with the factory pads so they still produce dust but I believe less dust than they were producing. But to answer your question yes it appears to stop faster and you definitely know it when you are on the brakes. Especially when they are hot. The old brakes would seem a little spongy these are very tight all the time.
What size allen wrench is that for the caliper bolts?
Hi. Do you feel any difference in stopping power? Also, did you install magic pads?
idjr They stop faster definitely. Feels like there is just more friction. I used brand new factory pads and bedded them in text book style. The thing I noticed the most is they are silent and feel frictionless when rolling. Hard to explain. Less resistance. Maybe lower unsprung weight but the manufacturer said there’s no way I would likely notice that...
Ahh I see. I've used magic pads before on my F430 and for street use they are perfect. I recently purchased a Model X and was thinking of using Girodisc magic pads upfront (same 4 piston fixed brembo caliper as my Fiat(f-car)), but not sure if they are adequate for stopping a 5,500 lb vehicle.
idjr sounds interesting! No idea the rating. Good luck! I do think they are a great two piece option.
BTW, I was having the same kind of trouble removing my rear wheels (hitting the suspension arms) until I got one of those wheel guide bolts (www.suncoastparts.com/product/99957107430.html). They are really helpful.
Carlos Moro I did not know those existed! I have one now. Brilliant device thanks for the comment
I have watched many of your videos over the last couple of day. I am looking for my first Porsche and I am focused on a 991.1. Your videos continue to give me a tremendous amount of confidence as I move forward with this journey. Hopefully soon I will be able to report back that I have found one to call my own. Thank you for taking the time to publish such high quality videos.
Thank you very much! I have thoroughly enjoyed the car and the projects. I have an upcoming video on 50 things to do to your 911 and I also replaced the headlights with the black version which I shot a video on. When you find the right car at the right price it will just happen!! Good luck