Pretty Hate Machine - The Nine Inch Nails Story ┃ Documentary
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- Опубліковано 12 січ 2023
- October 20, 1989 would see Pretty Hate Machine hit the shelves. This was the debut record that Trent had worked so hard on over the past year or so. Whilst he was generally influenced by 80s music, one album in particular was a key turning point for him. Pink Floyd's The Wall, released in 1979 was somewhat of an obsession for Reznor. He said he listened to this album countless times when he was younger so it was a major factor that would determine the direction of Pretty Hate Machine. Aside from that, he simply wanted to make an album that he would enjoy listening to himself.
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1. Yes, I said "Reznor was the brainchild of NIN" which is obviously wrong. It should be "NIN was the brainchild of Reznor". It's a simple error in the script, it happens. And yes, I do proofread my scripts, but guess what? I'm human and mistakes will STILL happen. I am one person doing the job of an entire research and production team. I don't mind people leaving corrections in the comments, I welcome it, but if you decide to address the mistakes in a rude or condescending manner, I will delete your comment and block you.
2. "You forgot about the Fragile", no, I didn't forget anything. I talk about what I want to talk about. I document what I personally find interesting about an artist. There's an hour long documentary on UA-cam already that focuses only on The Fragile.
3. "NIN were not darker than Skinny Puppy or Ministry, you don't know what you're talking about" - This is a subjective opinion as to weather an artist was "Darker" than another artist. Even the word "Darker" can hold different contextual meanings subjectively. If I think NIN were "Darker" than Skinny Puppy or Ministry, I am right, because it is my subjective opinion. In the same, if you do not believe this, you are also right as that is your subjective opinion.
4. "You pronounced Moog wrong". I pronounce Moog the same way every college and university lecturer I had over the span of 5 years whilst studying sound engineering and music technology in the UK pronounced it. And yes, I'm aware it is the name of Robert Moog. Some people don't seem to understand that before the internet existed, a word was interpreted based on the semantics of the native language of the person pronouncing it. When Americans start pronouncing the word "Herb" with the "H", I'll start pronouncing Moog like "Moge".
you said With Teeth came out in 2000 The Fragile came out then. You got it wrong m8 just correcting you. But to say Skinny Puppy and Ministry did not completely influence NIN is like saying Nirvana invented Punk.
id add that skipping the fragile is like skipping The Wall. It was the album that made Industrial hit the mainstream. Was managing a record store at the time and it was bizarre to sell it on mass to Jo blo and his nanna.
@@pucknhusker9426 I literally said 2005.
I genuinely cannot understand why you would skip over The Fragile. It’s not that I think you should like it (if you don’t). Downward Spiral came out in 1994 and With Teeth came out in 2004-that’s a pretty big gap to gloss over, even if that was just your personal preference.
@@RAWMUSICTV Are you trying to make me watch again lol. I apologize if you did. Was a good doc man and alot of hard work put in. Ok ima watch again ✌
"Caught a Light Sneeze, Dreamed a Little Dream, Made My Own Pretty Hate Machine"~Tori Amos
"Those demigods, With their nine-inch nails, And a little fascist panties, Tucked inside the heart Of every nice girl" -Tori Amos - Precious Things - 1992
Tori Amos is a God among goddesses I don't even know what that means but it sounds right
@@zachchristensen1104 I play piano which aside from Savatage isn't really all that "metal" an instrument...but Little Earthquakes was my only non-metal/grunge CD in the early 90s. Believe it or not the two CD-to-Cassettes in my car were Tori/Earthquakes and Ronnie James Dio's return to Black Sabbath/Dehumanizer....
Yeah LE was her PHM
The Downward Spiral is one of the most incredible albums ever made!
Amen!!!
It was decent, but was quite a disappointment coming from Pretty Hate Machine
@@MichaelJamesActuallyDamn....decent?? No words.....
Absolutely .
It is, buy why are so many people missing PHM, that was a revolution of an album, 1989, before Tool or anyone
Pretty Hate Machine is still on heavy rotation in my music collection. I’m always in awe when I listen to it.
Yup its in mine too fantastic album front to back
Give Black Celebration by Depeche Mode a listen. Inspired Trent to write the album
NIN was my first Concert. Coolest first Concert ever.
NIN has been my #1 since PHM came out...literally the soundtrack to my life
Pretty much the same... im a touch on the young side for PHM... but i was listenimg to downward spiral all summer between fifth and sixth grade lol. Plus i grew up in the bible belt so it was hard to get a lot of good music at that time anyway. The local record shop was hit or miss about ordering things they didnt have.... depended on who was working and how they felt about your age and the appropriateness of the music you wanted... lord... i actually am a little glad that we had to go through the stuff we did in that time and place in the world... makes it feel like we earned it a little more than some of the kids that came after us.
Same here. Except maybe for the heavy drug addiction part. Though I did get a little hooked on pain killer pills for a few years. And, still haven't really succeeded in my musical/artistic part of my life yet, which makes me feel like I'm too old now to make it happen. My stupid youth & hormones clogged my thinking, where if I would've had more control over that, maybe my talent would've gotten somewhere. But the financial part was a problem too.
Same... I remember living in my parents nightmare house and putting in this cassette into my Walkman after being beat by my father while my mother watched. I sat there with a bleeding nose crying and then... a miracle entered my world. Phm changed everything for me.
Although Broken definitely not recorded at La Cielo. If you have any contact info I’d live to kick some things around 😂
Aye’ 👍🏻
I was introduced to NIN in 1994 when I was 18. Pretty Hate Machine changed my life. Still love NIN.
If humans are still studying music in an academic sense hundreds of years from now The Downward Spiral and possibly The Fragile will be in the syllabus. Spiral is a more coherent album that tells a story, but The Fragile has some pretty amazing musical ideas on it. You could really pick anything he did and it would work. My favorite is the Broken EP since I'm a metalhead and that's about as close as he's ever gotten to actual metal. I'd love for him to make just one record with all of his signature sounds and audio tricks but with a tuned down seven string at the center of every song.
yea I thought Broken was his peak. & PHM to be honest. Spiral is great but it has a couple tracks I would skip.
The 1%.
Yes.
I was fortunate enough to see the NIN/Bowie show. It was probably the coolest show I've ever been to.
I wonder if people will see Trent the way we see artist's such as Mozart...
Trent reznor is a legend and has worked with other legends
Its funny to see all this because I grew up in the same town and actually went to parties where trent hung out....He also played at a prom I was at when he was in the Urge. Good to see a home town kid make it big.
It was surprising that Joy Division wasn't mentioned. Back then, I remember reading an interview where he said he hated the Beatles and said Joy Division was his biggest influence. He had covered Joy Division on The Crow soundtrack around that time too.
Or Gary Numan.
the crow !!! killer movie and Soundtrack
He also covered a Queen song, where do you draw the line? And regarding Ministry, I’m a big fan of their first 3 albums but IMO Trent writes MUCH darker material than Al.
I would assume Depeche Mode was too. Black Celebration inspired him to write Pretty Hate Machine
@@ChrisOBrien666 You like the dance record Ministry released? I haven't heard many come out in support of that one. It was their first record though. I've never actually heard it but I'd like to
Trent is a genius at blending pretty pop-like melodies with discordant, unsettling noise. Pretty Hate Machine fascinates me to this day. My personal favorite is Ring Finger because of it's construction and lyrics and it's oddly hummable! Hurt is also an amazing piece on The Downward Spiral. Whether you like his music or not, he set out to create a unique music style and he certainly did - the NIN sound is instantly recognizable and never predictable.
hurt isnt on pretty hate machine..
@@megaflux7144 Yes, I do know that. My review wasn't really clear, thanks for pointing that out!
I'm with you. Ring Finger has always hit me in that nerve! Love the thick layered drum track dropped for 4 bars and of course the sample of Janes Addiction @4:03! There was even scratching at the ending bars. Bad Ass!
I have pretty hate machine on vinyl. It really is one of my favourite things. This was a great documentary - thanks!
Pretty Hate Machine is fucking BRILLIANT!
I loved the detail about him loving THE WALL, I did not know this, I'm in my late 30s and have been listening to THE WALL since I was 8. I love that album so much I even have a tattoo of the wall around my arm with the face popping out, very cool detail to know about him. It's no wonder I love NIN. Great Doc. Thanks.
funny enough back then NIN was considered the most 'Light' Main stream top 40 version of Industrial music. lol
there are a few albums missing from this documentary. But I guess the intent was to focus on the initial part of Trent's carreer. He's achieved so much stuff also recently. What a genius.
He's going to be scoring the new TMNT movie.
@@krisztianunpronounceable If true, this is awesome news! The original 1990 TMNT movie had a kick-ass soundtrack of rap, house and new-jack swing. I wonder if Trent will reference any of those styles...
he is a huge COIL fan but such short time will never be enough to talk about them.
Reznor is still my number one role model in music....total musical genius.
Great doco and thank you for touching on With Teeth, a lot of people sleep on that record when, in my opinion, it's the most under rated album and slept on album out of NIN's discography, to me, this is when I knew Trent was able to truly branch out out of the industrial sound and into other avenues with the same expertise and passion.
Bought Downward Spiral in high school when it came out. Quickly bought PHM. Played them nonstop. They're still in my rotation. Finally got to see NIN a few months ago at Red Rocks and it was one of the best concerts I've been to.
Ayyyyyy! I finally got to see him at Red Rocks for that show too. What a great night. But I WOULD KILL to have seen him in the prime 90s…. Oh well.
“Since music was huge in the 80’s” so sad it isn’t today
The record company crashes in the late 90s RUINED the music and the industry itself forever.
I pods and minidisc Walkmans were basically canceled in favour of streaming… ownership and file collecting were discouraged…
“Synth music”
SKINNY PUPPY ARE LEGENDS WILL LOVE THEM FOREVER
Absolutely agree!! My most favorite band of all time. Ever since 1985-86.
Brap on....
I had never heard of NIN before their performance Saturday night at Woodstock. Totally blew me away with the Pretty Hate Machine songs. Favorite concert ever. One of my favorite albums, ever, although I mostly listen to it when I am by myself in the car.
The in yourself in the car comment totally sums up my relationship with this album. PHM is my all time favorite rock album. It’s a masterpiece.
I remember asking for a documentary on NIN and now that I see you did it My day just got better
Love your content.
Great history of music as always.
Great documentary good sir!! I appreciate the work you put into you’re content!!🤘
thanks for taking your time to put this out
It's like you create this unique universe for every band you speak of great documentary/ commentary work👌
Thanks for this! Learned so much.
NIN is one of my favorites. Great documentary! Thanks
Love yall's work! Please keep the content coming!
My man, you did your research!
Been a fan since my adolescence and I learned quite a few new things and saw some footage I've never seen before. I give you mad props, sir.
Another awesome documentary! Great job man! 🤘👌
Thanks for this - very well done.
Thank you for doing this.
Loved watching this, thank you!
Unfortunately you didn't mention his works on Quake I OST and Fragile album, which are cool too.
Thanks though, interesting video!
Trent Reznor is cool and legend on music nine inch nails rock 🎸 pretty hate machine is One of favorite album of all time .
Amazing like always ! 👏
Thank you for another great video. Honestly your videos are amazing.. thank you
Awesome awesome documentary. Loved the walk down memory lane.
I love all of this. Love pretty hate machine
Beautifully done.
Great job! You did a unique documentary and highlighted arguably the greatest song writer in the world! 👍
I saw the Pretty Hate Machine show at the I-Beam in San Francisco in 1990. It was a small venue on Haight Street. I was about 10 feet away from Trent. The show was amazing and exhilarating!
that is so cool!! you’re so lucky, i’m a young NIN fan so i didn’t get to experience the 90s. it sounded like an absolutely phenomenal time to be alive. i’d give anything to see trent in person
This is wild … so hard to find out this type info when NIN came out in 90s.. it was just suddenly on MTV and super dark , this is totally new context makes so much less dark and more normal
This was always by design. The only way you have even half a shot at keeping your “soul” (for lack of a better word) is if you can manage to keep a tight control over how far up your ass you let the fame go.
We knew just enough to keep him creepy and mysterious. You may know his wife’s name now, (but likely only if you’re part of a somewhat niche corner of the ninterwebs)
How many people do you remember knowing about him dating in the 90s?
(I mean, one’s *super* obvious if you watched that video with your eyes, but there’s a reason it wasn’t ever pointed out.
Think about when he OD’d. How long AFTER it happened did it become public knowledge?
@@Pandorican Do you think it's easier to get accurate info now vs pre-internet days? I feel like back then, we read books and had more in depth interviews, so although was harder to get at knowledge on newer things, the knowledge seemed deeper ... Vs today , feels like most UA-cam is quite superficial generally , even these more essay type vids
Truly a tier above anything produced cable TV. Well done!
I'm just so Hyped to hear you speak , friendly voice.
NIN 2023
Great work lad I always enjoy these they are extremally well done
I'll never forget meeting Trent & the band. Getting my Year Zero CD & tickets autographed.Also the pleasure of shaking his hand and speaking to him. Getting closer to Trent at the soundcheck and taking amazing pictures that I made into an album. Then at the end of a long day, seeing the concert. I was in awe of Trent. A true master at his craft. Not to mention a really nice person. As our group also had our picture made with the band. I still sometimes can't believe it happened to me. This was the NIN/JA tour in 2009. Charlotte,NC.
Lucky lady! 😃
This tour was beautiful, I saw the Florida leg in 2009 w/JA & NIN, but it’s the first time I’d ever had to sit in actual seats bc it’s the first (& only) time I went to a live show hugely pregnant.
Been waiting like a month for this
Really awesome that Throbbing Gristle and Skinny Puppy and Ministry was mentioned. Trent derived a lot of inspiration from Skinny Puppy.
Nin used skinny puppy's drums from too dark park on phm.
Down In It is a re-work of Dig It
Back in the days, before they were selling out arenas, I saw Skinny Puppy in a small club in S. Florida in 86'. Great memory.
Trent was a huge fan of skinny Puppy but what happen between Ogre and Trent during Pigface and the creation of the song suck change everything between the hardline industrial bands and Trent completely, not saying is not a good composer but Ogre never forget.
as far as im concerned ohgr deserves most of the credit trent has been given.
The video for Pinion/Wish was my introduction to NIN. I was already in love with Ministry and NIN was put on a pedestal with them. 🤘
Great work!
Honestly smashed this video mate
PHM was the very first album that I became totally obsessed with, knew every lyric on, and loved from front to back. I remember I called into the radio station on my 9th birthday to ask them to play NIN, lol.
Liam Howlett from the band The Prodigy, first synthesizer was the same as Trent's. The synth's name "The Prodigy", was Liam's inspiration for his band's name. If you look at the image in this video, from the synths, you can see that the font (letters) from "The Prodigy" band, are the same from the synthesizer. There u go, some history 4u. (And please excuse my English, it's not my native tongue).
This is the Artist I have been waiting for😎👌
So happy to see interview clips from Request Video with Gia DeSantis! SoCal kids remember !
Very well done !!! Bravo :-D
Pretty Hate Machine is one of my absolute classics. Just brilliant.
I took notes on a lot of stuff you mentioned and enjoyed this doc. I noticed the stuff gleaned over but get that you can’t pack the entire NIN story into a 26:36 video. Great doc!
I still have the 12” vinyl of Sin from when my older brother bought it for me when it came out. Al jourgensen was a bigger influence than might have been portrayed here as the Ministry album “ Land of rape and honey” was a landmark industrial metal point prior to Nine Inch Nails in its full form.
Skinny Puppy also a massive influence on both Reznor and Uncle Al
At least the got a mention but facts is facts.
Well done! Would have liked to know more about The Fragile
Skinny Puppy Would be Nice
The Ultimate in industrial programming...
Fuckin love those cats
The look Johnny Cash is giving Henry Rollins at the end of this, could cut through steel 😂
Then to have Rick Rubin standing at his side laughing, makes it one amazing photograph!
I discovered NIN and Ministry on the same day and have been hooked ever since.
I've never been a huge NIN fan, they have a handful of songs I love though, but I was always more of a Marilyn Manson guy. I still have nothing but respect and admiration for Trent and what he's accomplished.
No Manson without NIN
Listen to PHM
I was pulled from NIN to MM rather naturally, and fell deep and hard for Manson…for a period.
That period being
I’ll bite my tongue mostly re:the difference in “image” between TR & MM, (tbh, I…MM has always been brutally honest about who he was/is while TR has always been better about keeping his private shit private)
The best works mm gave us wouldn’t exist without TR.
(Neither would MC& the infinite sadness, which I thought a weird omission, I’d give anything to be able to write the whole story of what actually happened between MM, TR & Corgan. The few things I do know on it are fascinating.
this is pretty dope. imo Broken was his masterpiece. & just one nitpick - when you say someone 'succumbed' to an OD, that means they actually died.
The Cambridge definition is "to die or suffer badly from an illness". As addiction is often classified as an "illness" or a "disease", I believe the wording is correct.
Great channel, subscription gladly added. Thanks for the superb content.
This is deff the Best NIN doc I've seen!! Trent actually sold me a keyboard at Pi keyboards and audio in Brookpark Cleveland Oh.. My Roland D-50. I actually heard "Ringfinger" or "Swish" its early version back then 86-87' Brilliant Man! Still!
Ringfinger was called Twist on the demo before Pretty Hate Machine called Purest Feelings. Was this before that or??
@@DJJezzebella deff during the early "Twist" years 87' ish, well before PHM!!
When Pretty Hate Machine came out, I was a massive industrial nerd, and passed it off as fluffy crap that had just enough industrial presence in the music to ruin the genre. Looking back on it nearly 25 years later, I get the idea behind it a lot more than I did at the time.
It was the quintessential industrial album, for the market. It also brought forward punk, grunge, and metal. (Not single-handedly, but pushed all genres forward)
Head Like a Hole grabbed me instantly ! The song and the video . Goth girls started coming out of the woodwork as well . I thank Trent for that as well heh heh . While PHM was awesome , the next release would be my favorite by them . Broken . But Downward Spiral is brilliant as well , flip flopping back and forth with Broken , PHM and DS as faves ! Theyre all great ! Fuck it lol !
I love your your vh1 behind the music vibe.
I cant fucking wait 🤟🤟🤘🤘🤘Heavy metal
Reznor also played synths in a Cleveland pop band called Slam Bamboo there's some footage of that band playing a Cleveland area talk show in 1986
I saw them at helter skelter in LA during the PHM tour. The stage was behind a chain link fence and my ears have been ringing ever since. Seriously.
Yes it’s finally here
RIP Kurt if he ain't just in the town. I own every store too OG. God bless you
South Park Meadows in Austin, TX back in 1995 - Prick, NIN, and David Bowie - one of the greatest concerts I have ever been to! Trent Reznor is still my favorite lyricist of all time and Pretty Hate Machine still holds up to this day!
Holds up…. Bro that album will go down in history with Pink Floyd, LED Zeppelin, Fleetwood Mac, etc. that isn’t a “held up” thing. That is an album that literally defined and changed music history and influence. It’s a Cheech and Chong up in smoke type of thing.
@@shasmi93 I completely agree. It is on my Mount Rushmore of albums for sure!
Dude, you make the best rock/metal documentaries. It would rule if you do one for Faith No More
Fucking awesome as always,really hanging out for Static-X soon???
If it wasn't for NIN and Trent Reznor; I feel like my lifestyle wouldn't be the way I prefer it to be - the Pretty Hate Machine rescued me when I was in high school. The record is a part of me - it's like "one of" my "many" musical brothers, it's the same case with The Downward Spiral. 🤘🐲💯🔥🛠 But if it wasn't for Pretty Hate Machine, life just wouldn't be the same for me. Thank you Trent, Al Jorgensen, and Throbbing Gristle, I love you all so much because Throbbing Gristle invented industrial music, NIN and Ministry just perfected it and made it popular tho, esp. Trent. 🤘🤟💫⭐️🤙
Saw him open for Peter Murphy at Tipitinas! Awesome show!
❤❤❤ I love him. I have for a very long time. He is a musical genius. Hes so 🔥 damn fine too lol I absolutely love the influence he has had on myself with using so many techniques. He is the definition of industrial music for myself. Love his band mates. One of my favourite music video's ever is March of the Pigs. 🎉🎉 love you Trent!! And NIN!
Ministry would be cool to do.
Johnny Cash didn't want to cover Hurt originally. It was all Rick Rubin's doing, who gradually convinced him to do it.
Good documentary.
At 9:04 you can see Richard Patrick on the left, who later created Filter (and is brother to Robert Patrick)
I luckily got to see the Bowie & Reznor show in NC in the 90's.
I never heard that Throbbing Gristle was on a lable called Industrial Records. I just said, It sounds industrial and called it that. I enjoyed the music and went with it.
I heard NIN first time back at 1997 somewhere back there... 26 years ago... in high school...
I had a friend give me Pretty Hate Machine back in like 92 or 93. Been a fan ever since.
Pretty Hate Machine - changed SO MUCH at that time in the music scene -- he freeking set the music scene on FIRE!!!!
I'll never forget being 10 or so and going to my buddy Ryan's house after school. Ryan's Mom had a huge stereo and the subwoofers were like 18"/boxed with mids and highs. Typical oak 80's stuff. Ryan had like 100 feet of speaker wire and we would drag the speakers onto the roof of his house and blast Pretty Hate Machine as loud as it could go. I can only imagine what that sounded like to anyone but us, lol. We did it quite often though. No one ever called the cops?!
I still jam that album a few times a month. I love all of what Trent and NIN did but none compared to Pretty Hate Machine. And I am off to listen to it now, lol.
Guys my hero. He also moonlights as Professor Snape.
Just incredible work here, in terms of the research, aesthetic, and storytelling. Also, immense contribution to the historical record. PS let’s agree that Moog is pronounced the way cows sound and am I’m sticking by it. 😅
Trents answer to why the name NIN surprised me. I have always thought that it was an on the nose reference to the hardware used in the crucifixion of Christ.
Reznor is a genius. Favorite album has to be Broken . Raw, energetic and masterful.
My janitor let me borrow Pretty Hate Machine when I was in 8th grade catholic school 1994. I never heard of them but loved it instantly
Not all heros wear capes 😁