Another amazing piece of history about the air war over the Middle East that I barely know. Thanks for yet another exciting video about this interesting aircraft.
The Foxbat may have been limited outside of being an outstanding high speed bomber interceptor and reconnaissance platform, but in those rolls. It works very well. Now if only someone could make the MiG-25PD for DCS...
Oh yes, that would be awesome. Some people suggest that there should be another FC3 series of modules for DCS with models which can't be done in high-fidelity for some reason. It might cover Russian planes such as the Foxbat. I think it would improve the sim greatly.
@showtime112 Lots of people don't want more FC3 style planes though. Which I think is unfortunate if that path looks to be the only avaliable route to getting more RedFor planes for DCS.
Great story. I worked at Raytheon in Andover MA where they built the Hawk and Patriot. The Hawk was still in production then. I also remember when Victor Blenko stole a Mig-25 and landed in Japan. Interesting times. I didn't know they made and recon version of the Mig-25. That the Russians flew them themselves is certainly SOP for them.
MiG-25 was made into quite different interesting variants, not only photographic recon but also bomber, SLAR, ELINT and SEAD as well, each with their own designation. The high altitude performance of the airframe made it a very good platform for these other roles besides interception.
I'm happy you appreciate this story as well. That sounds like an interesting company to work in (at least from an outside perspective, it could have been terrible 😁).
@@robrob9050your long and terse comment got unceremoniously deleted man? Just because YTurds had decided to suck up their true master order.. Fyi, i cannot read your comments to mine in normal thread mode.. Only in the highlighted one.. It happened to me too.. Countless of times
I read something about an iraqui Mig-25 shooting down a US NAVY F/A-18 during the gulf war in 1991. The american pilot was Lt. Speicher and the iraqi pilot was Zuhair Dawood.
And it apparently also nearly shot down an F-15. The missile shot from it managed to hit the F-15 and damage but the pilot was able to fly it back to base.
I had read many articles about the Mig-25s in the middle east, what I concluded from them was that the Iraqis were most probably their best operators, although they rarely used them for what they were actually intended to be, bomber interceptors, probably because no other airforce in the middle east had supersonic bombers aside from Iraq itself, however they somehow fully utilized the edge that the Foxbat had on its adversaries which is speed. Too bad what the fate of the Mig-25s was after the Gulf War, some were scraped and after the 2003 invasion the US forces completely destroyed all Iraqi Mig-25s despite them being out of service, they could've got a better ending than that, it was meaningless and pretty much barbaric to let troops vandalize and destroy equipment that had history for the Iraqi people.
The War of Attrition is a project which I hope to complete some time in the future. It deserves to be covered, apart from the Soviet MiG-21s combat with the Israelis, the most part of it is not very well known.
Thanks for making this video I always wanther why no one made the video about MIG25 over Israel and Iran but you did and again thank you so much for making this great video
During the 1971/72 deployment, a MiG-25 was tracked at Mach 3.2 over the Sinai. However, apparently this caused the engines to overspeed and they had to be scrapped when they returned to base. Very interesting video. Thank you. ☮
Thank you for the comment! In some occasions, the Soviet MiG-25 pilots would increase the speed in order to avoid Israeli intercepts. It is possible that they sometimes exaggerated 😁
@@showtime112 I must thank you for confirming that IAF shot down one of those hyper vaunted Mig25 over the Bekaa Valley in 1981. I remembered it as in 1982.
As usual, another excellent and well researched video on military aviation history. Keep up the great work! And thanks gor posting your sources as well.
Thank you for the feedback! As for the sources, I believe it's best being transparent. I don't claim this events happened 100% exactly like this, but sources describe them that way.
@@showtime112 Thanks for the quick reply and your honest answer. I've been watching your videos for a long time and I've always appreciated your efforts to be accurate but also your honesty about when accounts differ. You always appear objective and fair in your assessments and that adds to the quality of your videos. Keep up the great work.
Mig25 reconnaissance was in egypt and did reconnaissance over sinai where the f4 phantom couldnt intercept but soviets refused to give recon images ro egyptian , and wont even let egyptian get closer to bases where mig25 was based
@@Ramzi1944it’s a weird thing the Soviets had. If you noticed the Soviets utterly refused to sell advanced tech to most countries especially Arab states. Iraq could mig 25s after they were already fading out and even than they were given weaker monkey models with poor training as to not give away Soviet secrets. Same came with Egypt. They didn’t want to Egyptians to get compromised and reveal advanced Soviet tech. Then there’s the issue of Soviet tech just being inferior as the mig 21 kept getting clapped in dog fights and when the Russians accused of the Egyptians of being bad pilots and instead took to the skies themselves, they do got clapped by Israeli pilots
The sources I found say that images of Israeli positions were given to the Egyptians (because there wouldn't be much point in taking them) but Soviets indeed didn't let them get anywhere near the MiG-25s.
Interesting video... And it's also interesting to see how doctrine's changed over the years. How did they even imagine MiG-25 would be a fighter is beyond my comprehension?! 🤷🏼 Speed and high flying altitude are it's only strength... Thank you for this glimpse at the history! 👍🏻👏🏻💪🏻🙋🏼♂️🍻🍻
Thanks again! It was a decent interceptor of high-flying bombers. But Arabs were probably a bit desperate because the Soviets had nothing to offer comparable to the US 4th gen fighters. So, they placed their hopes on the MiG-25.
Mig25 is the epitome of ‘boom and zoom’ plus as already stated, it’s original mission, (adopted by the later Mig 31), was area intercept, focussing on aircraft equally incapable of manoeuvring such as XB-70 Valkyries. Fox bats have a lot of real estate to look after and the high speed is as much to get to where they are needed, with short notice from GCI, and later AWACS.
Thank you very much! I was a toddler back then so I don't remember it 😁 But the topic came up in my teens when I was able to acquire some aviation literature.
The old saying goes that you don’t want to underestimate your enemy, but it is also wise not to over-estimate them. A delicate balance. If the western intelligence services weren’t so stupid they would have known better.
As a member of the Soviet military mission in Egypt recalled, Israeli intelligence had its agents among the Egyptian personnel of the base. As a result, the flights of the Mig-25 were not entirely a surprise to the Israelis. Therefore, the Russians decided to use a trick. They did not report the flight, but the "engine test" suddenly turned into a flight. And at that moment one could get the impression that the entire Egyptian personnel had to call someone
The sources I found also mention that Israelis knew a lot about the Soviet MiG-25 operations. Apparently, Egyptian officers were not very careful about giving away information.
Complete BS how old are you to begin with? Readers don't believe this troll, I know what I'm talking about but I can't put more details here, the reality is that Soviet experts in Egypt were almost all Mossad agents especially ukrainian jews! Sadat expleled them after repeated breach in security I have stories that are unbeliveble
hello, big fan of this video and the foxbat but theres just one thing , the picture displayed at 2:00 is illegitimate , the foxbat is photoshopped out of the original color picture and not flying over Egypt , i do not know the exact location but based off other similar liveries ive seen it was most likely flying in east germany, if u want i can send the exact photo to clear things up.👍
Thank you for the comment! I'll have to trust my instincts, something felt a bit odd about that photo but i just ignored it 😁 I recorded some footage of a MiG-25 over Egypt which was supposed to go there (and it probably should have).
Really informative as always. Was wondering; if you salvo Sparrow missiles like at 5:35 doesn’t the lock of the previous fired missile get broken and you basically waste a missile?
Thank you! No, multiple Sparrows can be guided on a single target and F-4s pilots in Vietnam and F-15 pilots in Desert Storm practiced such shots on many occasions. The only exception seems to be the F-14.
Some observations regarding the operational record of the MiG-25 interceptor versions. 1) As an interceptor in Soviet service the MiG-25 was used exclusively by the PVO, that is the Soviet Air Defence Forces, and usually aircraft developed specifically for use by the PVO were considered sensitive technology and were not exported even to Warsaw Pact member states. However, the 1976 Belenko defection completely compromised the MiG-25P (the baseline interceptor version) and hence the PD version was developed in a crash program, including many modifications like a new radar (a version of the radar used by the MiG-23ML/P, the first Soviet radar with a look down/shoot down capability), an IRST system, a new datalink and other improvements, something which also cleared the type for export, something which without Belenko's defection would most likely have never happened. 2) There is quite a lot of contradictory information regarding the MiG-25 interceptors exported to Arab states, namely Algeria, Iraq, Syria and Libya in the late '70s, but it looks like they were a mixture of MiG-25P and PD, having basically the same radar as the P version but with some of the improvements of the PD. 3) Regarding the Syrian claim from 1981 mentioned in the video about a Syrian MiG-25 shooting an Israeli F-15 down, it is part of a long list of such claims by Arab air forces, and some of them are described in detail in a Tom Cooper article in the War Is Boring website. Some of these claims are more credible than others, but ironically don't include what is actually by far the most credible case for an F-15 being shot down in air to air combat, the F-15E (callsign Corvette 03) shot down on January 19th 1991, day 3 of operation Desert Storm. Although it is usually credited to an SA-2 SAM, something which is the case with the article mentioned above as well, official USAF sources actually credit it to a Iraqi MiG-25, which if is indeed the case shatters the widely made claim that no F-15 has ever been shot down in air to air combat. If some F-15s have been shot down in air to air combat, we are certainly talking about a very small number of aircraft, something that changes practically nothing regarding the F-15s overall combat record, but would still constitute another example of debunked mythmaking, unsubstantiated claims being constantly repeated till they are accepetd as fact, and then debunked by more careful research.
I remember, when I was a kid, someone offered me a 1/48 MiG-25 (I think it was a Revell kit but not sure). The model looked huge, but, God, to me, the Foxbat seemed like a horrible plane ! I never assembled one again after that! 😖
Not horrible tbh. Compared to US 4th gen, yeah not that good, but it was still the most effective AA platform the reds had in the 70s and early 80s. Late MiG-21 and early MiG-23 variants had an even worse time facing teen series fighters because they had literally zero advantages. The MiG-25 at least had a big radar, big missiles and big engines and was able to engage US planes while everything else they had was just a sitting duck.
Another great video about the conflicts in the Middle East. Thank you! Out of curiosity, do you know if the MiG-25P was even in Soviet service by 1971? I can't find a source with a more precise date, but I had thought they weren't around until 1972/1973 but if you have more info, I'd appreciate it. That said, perhaps the Soviets were hesitant to give the Egyptians the MiG-25P before it even entered service.
Thank you! As far as I could determine, both versions of MiG-25 were still in the testing phase when they were sent to Egypt. It looks like it was testing under combat conditions (kinda like Su-25 later in Afghanistan)
@@showtime112 Ah understood, that makes sense. Similarly the US tested the AIM-9J in Vietnam way before it was considered IOC in 1976. But back to the topic of the video, I'm curious if the F-4's that successfully intercepted that MiG-25 could have actually shot it down if they had AIM-7F instead of the E. I suppose we'll never really know!
Syria used the Export model of the Mig25 with downgraded avionics and radar. Iraq had the full up modernized soviet version later in the 80s and it did decently in the gulf war considering the odds.
One interesting fact is that in the Iraqi Air Force, the best pilots flew MiG-25s. You'd say it was the MiG-29 which was their most advanced fighter but no.
@@showtime112It was likely because the Iraqis saw the Mig-25's success in their war with Iran as a good reason to keep their best pilots on the foxbats instead of the new untested Fulcrums, would've been interesting to see how far the Iraqis could've pushed the Foxbats had the odds been even in the Gulf War and had Saddam not ordered the IrAF to avoid confrontation with the coalition airforces.
Thanks! Yes, there are plenty of scenarios to be done there. One in particular is the aerial operations in Afghanistan between the Soviet retreat and the American arrival. But I'm waiting for the whole map to be complete for that one.
You forgot to mention the 'Foxbat' over the Sinai in the engagement of May 16th, 1972 accelerated to Mach 3.2 to escape the Israeli Phantoms, melting its engines in the process.
Add breaks are much further apart than one minute. Precisely, about five They are in fact much rarer than UA-cam suggests. As for the subtitles, I'm not sure what bothers you but if they bother you, you can turn them off literally with one click.
@@showtime112 I believe this changes in regard to where you watch from. Diferent countries get diferent treatment, regardless of how you set it yourself. But, I could be wrong...
@@PappaBear_yt I don't think so. The creator can place mid-roll ads within the video. If there's no ad booked to match the specific viewer at that time, the ad won't be played but I believe YT won't increase their number.
The website Skywar Aviation in Local Conflicts has a detailed list of Syrian Air Forces losses in Lebanon in 1982, citing Syrian sources which confirm the loss of 68 aircraft. Interestingly, the MiG-25RB shootdown on August 31st 1982 described at the end of the video, is mentioned in the list but described as a false claim. A complete picture of the aerial warfare over Lebanon in 1982 can emerge only if and when the Syrian Air Force archives and records become available for historical research, something extremely unlikely to ever happen.
The Mig 25 was not intended to be used as a fighter. The Soviets intended to primarily use it as an interceptor to intercept supersonic US bombers before they could reach Soviet territory.
Can you try making a video on the service of the MiG-25 in India, especially around and during the Kargil War? I would understand if you can't, because the IAF was so secretive about it's Foxbat that they didn't even officially say it had the aircraft until after retirement
I love how this aircraft was almost untouchabke but media in my country especially downplayed it or nevr even spokeof hese incients where ge mig25 wen mision acomplished without a scratch I love how BIG the engine exhaust openings are, the silhouette was GORGEOUS, the long nose, tge high speed, the roar of its tumansky afterburning turbo fans was all something outnof a sci fi movie to me. 😮 this aircraft was ALL power and my favoite of all time
The USSR intervention in Egypt in 70´s was very big, much more than in Syria now, around 25.000 soldiers, pilots advisers and more 200 of the VVS best planes, including the MiG-25 of course.. A superb book abot this is "The soviet-israeli war 1967-1973" of Isabella Ginor & Gideon Remez IF the rumors are true, Russia is ready to support Iran with Top of the line planes, SAMs and ECM against the Israel possible attack........Will see......
@@showtime112 Imas ovde ispovest Irackog pilota koji je oborio F/A-18C tokom prve noci pustinjske oluje. Ima nas title. ua-cam.com/video/CAR9hfv1Zuc/v-deo.html
Hymp. No match best be in perspective. An F15 is just another plane. The Foxbat is not a turn n burn frame like the Eagle AND Syrians are ill trained. Critical errors. But the ambush can work - just the Mig was too early.
The ambush could have worked, Syrian MiGs were able to surprise F-15s on at least one or two occasions. But ground control probably made some errors guiding the northern MiG.
So why is the AIM-7 Sparrow doing so well in Israeli hands against such a difficult target as the Mig-25? We have all read that the AIM-7 has a very low successful hit rate something like 10 % but here we have almost 60% in the described encounters.
First of all, Sparrow missile was continuously improved. F version was much better than the E model used in Vietnam (where the success rate was even lower than 10%). Second thing, you didn't count well 😁 In all these engagements, Israelis fired eight missiles resulting in three Foxbats shot down. That's 37,5 %. Sparrow could be quite accurate against non-maneuvering targets, especially in look-up. In Vietnam, they were often fired at maneuvering, small fighters, outside of parameters and multiple shots were standard practice.
Another amazing piece of history about the air war over the Middle East that I barely know. Thanks for yet another exciting video about this interesting aircraft.
Thank you for being here once again! These stories deserve more attention than they usually get.
Thanks!
Thanks for the donation once again!
The Foxbat may have been limited outside of being an outstanding high speed bomber interceptor and reconnaissance platform, but in those rolls. It works very well.
Now if only someone could make the MiG-25PD for DCS...
Oh yes, that would be awesome. Some people suggest that there should be another FC3 series of modules for DCS with models which can't be done in high-fidelity for some reason. It might cover Russian planes such as the Foxbat. I think it would improve the sim greatly.
@showtime112 Lots of people don't want more FC3 style planes though. Which I think is unfortunate if that path looks to be the only avaliable route to getting more RedFor planes for DCS.
Yet another great video. An example of just how entertaining and informative, well produced videos of this kind can be. Keep up your excellent work.
Thank you very much! This is a very inspirative comment!
When it runs away from you and you are in an F-4 you know it's fast!
Exactly 😁
Great story. I worked at Raytheon in Andover MA where they built the Hawk and Patriot. The Hawk was still in production then. I also remember when Victor Blenko stole a Mig-25 and landed in Japan. Interesting times. I didn't know they made and recon version of the Mig-25. That the Russians flew them themselves is certainly SOP for them.
*getting tired of this yt communism*
MiG-25 was made into quite different interesting variants, not only photographic recon but also bomber, SLAR, ELINT and SEAD as well, each with their own designation. The high altitude performance of the airframe made it a very good platform for these other roles besides interception.
I'm happy you appreciate this story as well. That sounds like an interesting company to work in (at least from an outside perspective, it could have been terrible 😁).
@@robrob9050your long and terse comment got unceremoniously deleted man?
Just because YTurds had decided to suck up their true master order..
Fyi, i cannot read your comments to mine in normal thread mode..
Only in the highlighted one..
It happened to me too.. Countless of times
@@dieterhrabak4947 Yeah man, got narcisstic injury 😂 Obviously this commie wanna be yt bot is very strict..
Great story. All these little events made aerial warfare history a fascinating thing
I absolutely agree with you, thanks!
I read something about an iraqui Mig-25 shooting down a US NAVY F/A-18 during the gulf war in 1991. The american pilot was Lt. Speicher and the iraqi pilot was Zuhair Dawood.
Yes, this is the only case after Vietnam in which the USA officially admits losing a combat aircraft to an enemy fighter.
@@showtime112 Yes. The keyword is "officially admits"! 😉
And it apparently also nearly shot down an F-15. The missile shot from it managed to hit the F-15 and damage but the pilot was able to fly it back to base.
I had read many articles about the Mig-25s in the middle east, what I concluded from them was that the Iraqis were most probably their best operators, although they rarely used them for what they were actually intended to be, bomber interceptors, probably because no other airforce in the middle east had supersonic bombers aside from Iraq itself, however they somehow fully utilized the edge that the Foxbat had on its adversaries which is speed. Too bad what the fate of the Mig-25s was after the Gulf War, some were scraped and after the 2003 invasion the US forces completely destroyed all Iraqi Mig-25s despite them being out of service, they could've got a better ending than that, it was meaningless and pretty much barbaric to let troops vandalize and destroy equipment that had history for the Iraqi people.
@@RyH-yx4ys Yes you are right! Thou I think they took the "Hornet killer" MiG back to the US to display it in a museum.
Another great video!
Glad you enjoyed it!
I remember the Clint Eastwood film called Firefox back in 1982, which was referring to this Soviet fighter.
I saw that movie on opening day! The theater was pretty empty, lol.
Mig31 firefox
No it was actually referring to Mig 31
@@srijanme the plane in the movie didn't look in any way to a Mig31. The point was a Soviet fighter with enchanced abilities.
@@yja496 Originally it was suppose to look like 31 but they went futuristic.
based, glad you’re doing a series on the ‘War of Attrition’, alot of interesting air engagements took place during that time.
The War of Attrition is a project which I hope to complete some time in the future. It deserves to be covered, apart from the Soviet MiG-21s combat with the Israelis, the most part of it is not very well known.
Great video! I like how your meld the history with the DCS.
Thank you very much! DCS and other sims are not specifically made for this purpose but they can be quite useful.
Thanks for making this video I always wanther why no one made the video about MIG25 over Israel and Iran but you did and again thank you so much for making this great video
Thank you for appreciating it! I agree this is a very interesting story and someone needed to cover it.
Awesome video as always!
Thank you very much!
During the 1971/72 deployment, a MiG-25 was tracked at Mach 3.2 over the Sinai.
However, apparently this caused the engines to overspeed and they had to be scrapped when they returned to base.
Very interesting video.
Thank you.
☮
The plane which engines are own fuel.
Thank you for the comment! In some occasions, the Soviet MiG-25 pilots would increase the speed in order to avoid Israeli intercepts. It is possible that they sometimes exaggerated 😁
@@showtime112
The X-15 had to reach Mach 7
to achieve such a feat.
@@showtime112
I must thank you for confirming that
IAF shot down one of those hyper vaunted
Mig25 over the Bekaa Valley in 1981.
I remembered it as in 1982.
Muchas gracias.
Ha sido un muy buen video. Muy bien documentado.
Cómo siempre!
Thank you very much for your positive comment!
Great video, thanks 😊
Thank you for watching and commenting!
Thank you sir.
Thank you for being here!
Amazing as always!!!!!
Thank you very much for the positive comment!
@@showtime112 My pleasure!!!!
Nice work! 👍
Thanks Chups!
As usual, another excellent and well researched video on military aviation history. Keep up the great work! And thanks gor posting your sources as well.
Thank you for the feedback! As for the sources, I believe it's best being transparent. I don't claim this events happened 100% exactly like this, but sources describe them that way.
@@showtime112 Thanks for the quick reply and your honest answer. I've been watching your videos for a long time and I've always appreciated your efforts to be accurate but also your honesty about when accounts differ. You always appear objective and fair in your assessments and that adds to the quality of your videos. Keep up the great work.
Mig25 reconnaissance was in egypt and did reconnaissance over sinai where the f4 phantom couldnt intercept but soviets refused to give recon images ro egyptian , and wont even let egyptian get closer to bases where mig25 was based
Why did they refuse to give the recon images to Egypt?
@@Ramzi1944it’s a weird thing the Soviets had. If you noticed the Soviets utterly refused to sell advanced tech to most countries especially Arab states. Iraq could mig 25s after they were already fading out and even than they were given weaker monkey models with poor training as to not give away Soviet secrets. Same came with Egypt. They didn’t want to Egyptians to get compromised and reveal advanced Soviet tech. Then there’s the issue of Soviet tech just being inferior as the mig 21 kept getting clapped in dog fights and when the Russians accused of the Egyptians of being bad pilots and instead took to the skies themselves, they do got clapped by Israeli pilots
The sources I found say that images of Israeli positions were given to the Egyptians (because there wouldn't be much point in taking them) but Soviets indeed didn't let them get anywhere near the MiG-25s.
@@showtime112 Thank you for the clarification
@@Bigman-fh1fzmig 25s that iraqis had were as advanced as the soviet variants, as the mig 31 had been introduced.
I always thought the MiG 25 was a failure, thanks so much for correcting this misapprehension! At least it could do good recon!
Thank you for the feedback!
Interesting video... And it's also interesting to see how doctrine's changed over the years. How did they even imagine MiG-25 would be a fighter is beyond my comprehension?! 🤷🏼 Speed and high flying altitude are it's only strength...
Thank you for this glimpse at the history! 👍🏻👏🏻💪🏻🙋🏼♂️🍻🍻
They had to have sumding to show for
before the A-12
Thanks again! It was a decent interceptor of high-flying bombers. But Arabs were probably a bit desperate because the Soviets had nothing to offer comparable to the US 4th gen fighters. So, they placed their hopes on the MiG-25.
Mig25 is the epitome of ‘boom and zoom’ plus as already stated, it’s original mission, (adopted by the later Mig 31), was area intercept, focussing on aircraft equally incapable of manoeuvring such as XB-70 Valkyries. Fox bats have a lot of real estate to look after and the high speed is as much to get to where they are needed, with short notice from GCI, and later AWACS.
@@showtime112 During the high school me and mah boyz reffered to the 25 as "Grotlo". 😁
Its twin-exhaust pipes = 🌋🌋
Amazing video and very well presented. MiG-25 in the Middle East should be a Netflix documentary.
Thank you very much! I'm afraid such a video is a bit unlikely.
Good stuff thank you
Thank you for the comment!
Another excellent video, I remember how people was excited when Belenko defected to the West. The MiG-25 was seen as an unmatched fighter aircraft
Thank you very much! I was a toddler back then so I don't remember it 😁 But the topic came up in my teens when I was able to acquire some aviation literature.
The old saying goes that you don’t want to underestimate your enemy, but it is also wise not to over-estimate them. A delicate balance. If the western intelligence services weren’t so stupid they would have known better.
Highly interesting story - thanks!
I'm happy to hear you liked it, thank you!
As a member of the Soviet military mission in Egypt recalled, Israeli intelligence had its agents among the Egyptian personnel of the base. As a result, the flights of the Mig-25 were not entirely a surprise to the Israelis. Therefore, the Russians decided to use a trick. They did not report the flight, but the "engine test" suddenly turned into a flight. And at that moment one could get the impression that the entire Egyptian personnel had to call someone
The sources I found also mention that Israelis knew a lot about the Soviet MiG-25 operations. Apparently, Egyptian officers were not very careful about giving away information.
yes then israelis beat soviets dogfight with no loses in antoher trick
Complete BS how old are you to begin with?
Readers don't believe this troll, I know what I'm talking about but I can't put more details here, the reality is that Soviet experts in Egypt were almost all Mossad agents especially ukrainian jews! Sadat expleled them after repeated breach in security I have stories that are unbeliveble
@@showtime112 Your source ---> MOSSAD LOL 🤣
Cool reconstruction! "Sparrow" missile is very good, but only in close combat. The F-15s were lucky, because MiG-25 could get away from them.
Thank you for the comment!
hello, big fan of this video and the foxbat but theres just one thing , the picture displayed at 2:00 is illegitimate , the foxbat is photoshopped out of the original color picture and not flying over Egypt , i do not know the exact location but based off other similar liveries ive seen it was most likely flying in east germany, if u want i can send the exact photo to clear things up.👍
Thank you for the comment! I'll have to trust my instincts, something felt a bit odd about that photo but i just ignored it 😁 I recorded some footage of a MiG-25 over Egypt which was supposed to go there (and it probably should have).
@@showtime112 no worries ! they did a really good job with the photoshop lol , again good vid hope to see more about the foxbat and or foxhound!
Really informative as always. Was wondering; if you salvo Sparrow missiles like at 5:35 doesn’t the lock of the previous fired missile get broken and you basically waste a missile?
Thank you! No, multiple Sparrows can be guided on a single target and F-4s pilots in Vietnam and F-15 pilots in Desert Storm practiced such shots on many occasions. The only exception seems to be the F-14.
Some observations regarding the operational record of the MiG-25 interceptor versions.
1) As an interceptor in Soviet service the MiG-25 was used exclusively by the PVO, that is the Soviet Air Defence Forces, and usually aircraft developed specifically for use by the PVO were considered sensitive technology and were not exported even to Warsaw Pact member states. However, the 1976 Belenko defection completely compromised the MiG-25P (the baseline interceptor version) and hence the PD version was developed in a crash program, including many modifications like a new radar (a version of the radar used by the MiG-23ML/P, the first Soviet radar with a look down/shoot down capability), an IRST system, a new datalink and other improvements, something which also cleared the type for export, something which without Belenko's defection would most likely have never happened.
2) There is quite a lot of contradictory information regarding the MiG-25 interceptors exported to Arab states, namely Algeria, Iraq, Syria and Libya in the late '70s, but it looks like they were a mixture of MiG-25P and PD, having basically the same radar as the P version but with some of the improvements of the PD.
3) Regarding the Syrian claim from 1981 mentioned in the video about a Syrian MiG-25 shooting an Israeli F-15 down, it is part of a long list of such claims by Arab air forces, and some of them are described in detail in a Tom Cooper article in the War Is Boring website. Some of these claims are more credible than others, but ironically don't include what is actually by far the most credible case for an F-15 being shot down in air to air combat, the F-15E (callsign Corvette 03) shot down on January 19th 1991, day 3 of operation Desert Storm. Although it is usually credited to an SA-2 SAM, something which is the case with the article mentioned above as well, official USAF sources actually credit it to a Iraqi MiG-25, which if is indeed the case shatters the widely made claim that no F-15 has ever been shot down in air to air combat. If some F-15s have been shot down in air to air combat, we are certainly talking about a very small number of aircraft, something that changes practically nothing regarding the F-15s overall combat record, but would still constitute another example of debunked mythmaking, unsubstantiated claims being constantly repeated till they are accepetd as fact, and then debunked by more careful research.
I remember, when I was a kid, someone offered me a 1/48 MiG-25 (I think it was a Revell kit but not sure). The model looked huge, but, God, to me, the Foxbat seemed like a horrible plane ! I never assembled one again after that! 😖
Thanks for sharing! 😁
@@showtime112 You're welcome 😁
Not horrible tbh. Compared to US 4th gen, yeah not that good, but it was still the most effective AA platform the reds had in the 70s and early 80s. Late MiG-21 and early MiG-23 variants had an even worse time facing teen series fighters because they had literally zero advantages. The MiG-25 at least had a big radar, big missiles and big engines and was able to engage US planes while everything else they had was just a sitting duck.
Cool.
Thank you for the comment!
Another great video about the conflicts in the Middle East. Thank you! Out of curiosity, do you know if the MiG-25P was even in Soviet service by 1971? I can't find a source with a more precise date, but I had thought they weren't around until 1972/1973 but if you have more info, I'd appreciate it.
That said, perhaps the Soviets were hesitant to give the Egyptians the MiG-25P before it even entered service.
Thank you! As far as I could determine, both versions of MiG-25 were still in the testing phase when they were sent to Egypt. It looks like it was testing under combat conditions (kinda like Su-25 later in Afghanistan)
@@showtime112 Ah understood, that makes sense. Similarly the US tested the AIM-9J in Vietnam way before it was considered IOC in 1976.
But back to the topic of the video, I'm curious if the F-4's that successfully intercepted that MiG-25 could have actually shot it down if they had AIM-7F instead of the E. I suppose we'll never really know!
It's possible but the exact circumstances will never be recreated so we can't tell 😁
Syria used the Export model of the Mig25 with downgraded avionics and radar.
Iraq had the full up modernized soviet version later in the 80s and it did decently in the gulf war considering the odds.
One interesting fact is that in the Iraqi Air Force, the best pilots flew MiG-25s. You'd say it was the MiG-29 which was their most advanced fighter but no.
@@showtime112It was likely because the Iraqis saw the Mig-25's success in their war with Iran as a good reason to keep their best pilots on the foxbats instead of the new untested Fulcrums, would've been interesting to see how far the Iraqis could've pushed the Foxbats had the odds been even in the Gulf War and had Saddam not ordered the IrAF to avoid confrontation with the coalition airforces.
Nice
Thank you for the comment!
Interesting story! Can't wait to see what you can do in Afghanistan and Iraq DCS maps.
Thanks! Yes, there are plenty of scenarios to be done there. One in particular is the aerial operations in Afghanistan between the Soviet retreat and the American arrival. But I'm waiting for the whole map to be complete for that one.
@@showtime112 Have the Helion publishing book of that, "Wings over the Hindukush" very interesting subject.
You forgot to mention the 'Foxbat' over the Sinai in the engagement of May 16th, 1972 accelerated to Mach 3.2 to escape the Israeli Phantoms, melting its engines in the process.
I didn't forget it. The sources I found which describe the whole thing sometimes don't mention that story at all and some even question it.
you joking,mig 25 service celling was much higher then phantoms
Recon MiG-25s of IAF also flew over Pakistan with impunity for years
Yes, I think it was quite successful in the Indian service.
After all it's a man who is behind the machine
@@sunilnalawade6700 it was not just about pilot, the Pakistani unlike Israeli didn't get F-15 or high altitude capable SAMs at that time
at 2:00 is the image of the Mig-25 over the Pyramids of Giza AI generated?
It's possible
Não estamos conseguindo assistir teus vídeos por causa da quantidade de propagandas que cortam a todos minuto o vídeo e ainda retira a legenda. 👍🏽
Add breaks are much further apart than one minute. Precisely, about five They are in fact much rarer than UA-cam suggests. As for the subtitles, I'm not sure what bothers you but if they bother you, you can turn them off literally with one click.
@@showtime112 I believe this changes in regard to where you watch from. Diferent countries get diferent treatment, regardless of how you set it yourself.
But, I could be wrong...
@@PappaBear_yt I don't think so. The creator can place mid-roll ads within the video. If there's no ad booked to match the specific viewer at that time, the ad won't be played but I believe YT won't increase their number.
The website Skywar Aviation in Local Conflicts has a detailed list of Syrian Air Forces losses in Lebanon in 1982, citing Syrian sources which confirm the loss of 68 aircraft. Interestingly, the MiG-25RB shootdown on August 31st 1982 described at the end of the video, is mentioned in the list but described as a false claim. A complete picture of the aerial warfare over Lebanon in 1982 can emerge only if and when the Syrian Air Force archives and records become available for historical research, something extremely unlikely to ever happen.
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I appreciate your comment!
The export versions were no match
I had the privilege of working at the only base of Indian Air Force which had Mig 25 in it's arsenal, we bid goodbye to it in 2006
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Yes the mig could do mach.3 but if it did the engine was burnt out
The Mig 25 was not intended to be used as a fighter. The Soviets intended to primarily use it as an interceptor to intercept supersonic US bombers before they could reach Soviet territory.
Can you try making a video on the service of the MiG-25 in India, especially around and during the Kargil War? I would understand if you can't, because the IAF was so secretive about it's Foxbat that they didn't even officially say it had the aircraft until after retirement
I love how this aircraft was almost untouchabke but media in my country especially downplayed it or nevr even spokeof hese incients where ge mig25 wen mision acomplished without a scratch
I love how BIG the engine exhaust openings are, the silhouette was GORGEOUS, the long nose, tge high speed, the roar of its tumansky afterburning turbo fans was all something outnof a sci fi movie to me. 😮 this aircraft was ALL power and my favoite of all time
fortunatelly the MIG 25 was a interceptor BUT bad for dogfight
The USSR intervention in Egypt in 70´s was very big, much more than in Syria now, around 25.000 soldiers, pilots advisers and more 200 of the VVS best planes, including the MiG-25 of course..
A superb book abot this is "The soviet-israeli war 1967-1973" of Isabella Ginor & Gideon Remez
IF the rumors are true, Russia is ready to support Iran with Top of the line planes, SAMs and ECM against the Israel possible attack........Will see......
Thanks for the interesting recommendation. As for the present time.....it certainly seems like the history is repeating itself.
Excellent 👌 presentation on the MiG 25 Foxbat. Thank you Dhowtime 112 for all you do! ♠️🎩🎯🎱🇺🇸🏁🇮🇱🇺🇦🔱🌻🌸💮🌼🏴☠️🏹
Thank you very much for always being here!
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3 hours ago?? Hope you went to church!!
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Cekamo obradu Irackih MiG-25, oni su ih koristili kako dolikuje i cak imali jednog asa na foxbatu. Pozz
Radi se na tome :)
@@showtime112 Imas ovde ispovest Irackog pilota koji je oborio F/A-18C tokom prve noci pustinjske oluje. Ima nas title.
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@@miles8421 Zahvaljujem!
sr71 did same to mig25
Hymp. No match best be in perspective. An F15 is just another plane.
The Foxbat is not a turn n burn frame like the Eagle AND Syrians are ill trained. Critical errors.
But the ambush can work - just the Mig was too early.
The ambush could have worked, Syrian MiGs were able to surprise F-15s on at least one or two occasions. But ground control probably made some errors guiding the northern MiG.
@@showtime112 I concur.
Fuck yes
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So why is the AIM-7 Sparrow doing so well in Israeli hands against such a difficult target as the Mig-25? We have all read that the AIM-7 has a very low successful hit rate something like 10 % but here we have almost 60% in the described encounters.
First of all, Sparrow missile was continuously improved. F version was much better than the E model used in Vietnam (where the success rate was even lower than 10%). Second thing, you didn't count well 😁 In all these engagements, Israelis fired eight missiles resulting in three Foxbats shot down. That's 37,5 %. Sparrow could be quite accurate against non-maneuvering targets, especially in look-up. In Vietnam, they were often fired at maneuvering, small fighters, outside of parameters and multiple shots were standard practice.
Забавное видео. Показан МиГ-25РБ, который не нес никакого оружия воздух -воздух.
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Lovely 🇷🇺 fighter
Well, an Iraqi MiG-25 did manage to shoot down an American F/A-18. Confirmed by Americans, later on and unwillingly....
Israel and Arab wars always fighting a never ending war.
Forty year later, still not over.
Iranian F-5 also downed a Iraqi Mig-25
There's a video about it on the channel.
F15 shot down ?
That's what the Syrians claim but there's no confirmation for something like that.
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Well, old Hafez had to invent sumding
goebbels style.
Not unlikely 😁
A formidable fighter jet thr MiG-25. A lot better in performance than its amerikan counterparts.
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Sure dude, sure.
that reconecence MiG25 was sent to film israhelli top secret nuclear facility.and he made it
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Another great video! 👍
Hvala!