My problem was you were using a gaming phone for the 888 which has lot better thermals than any other device there. But a very good comparison and deserves a thumbs up.
Respect for Asus for making a cooling solution that can keep the SD888 running close to max performance. Every other phone with the 888 just boils itself to a standstill.
Yeah this was unfair because the ROG phone is unique and has the best cooling system of any phone out there. But if they had used any other phone with a SD 888 it would have been worse than the 870.
@@douglasbarr2636 it's mostly because the temperature problem. If you attach the phone with smt like funcooler the phone with better chipset will always win.
2 years passed and this video is still relevant. Some new devices still get relatively old chips for lower prices for different target buyers. Not all new devices are marketed for gaming, cheaper phones even in 2023 still get something like Snapdragon 450. I too normally don't game on mobiles as I prefer console. But just early this year 2023 I purchased a mid-range tablet for general uses, social media + entertainment + basic works. I'm happy it gets a lower-end flagship chip; Snapdragon 860. So started trying to play games with this tablet and it's more fun than I thought, really not bad at all. If you don't care much about brand, you can get a device with the newest most powerful flagship chip 2 years after its first release for much lower price - 50% or even cheaper. Free market is good, competition is good for us consumers. One thing to consider though, it's not only about "power". The "ecosystem" for the device is important too, Apple and Samsung still dominate in this regard.
865 is just perfect compared to its price and performance It's got a good stability and good performance it will still run every game on maximum graphics and won't drop
@@MariusVerbavicius definitely needed,u can Charge and Listen music at same time and can borrow anyone's headphones when outside without even bothering about the adapter, Neither apple nor samsung will give u any adapter,Oh u are not even Getting the charger 🤣🤣.
@@ravinderrs2552 why i would need wire at all? I got bose bluetooth noise cancelling buds. No wires :) more comfort, super quality sound. With AUX 3.5mm sound was really dependent on internal amp. If phone got shit amp, it lacked good sounding. Even if you have adapter connected to headphones, it would be always connected, because it would be always needed, so charging is not a problem then with an adapter. I do not see point charging and having headphones plugged in also. It is too much wires, really uncomfortable
I wish the 888 device wasn't a gaming phone to keep it fair. But obviously it's the only device you have so we can't complain. Thank you for the great content!
@@GoldenReviewer I'm not sure i got what you mean? Bas like best? If so I don't agree Samsung cooling is subpar at best. I wish you used it instead of rog5. Maybe we could see a comparison between them two? S21 ultra vs rog5
Guys,just letting you know. SD860 is basically just a rebranded SD855+. Basically same prime core clock at 2.96GHz and same GPU clock at 700MHz. But it is way cheaper tho. Idk about other phone using this SoC but Poco X3 Pro is like 1/3 of the price of phones with SD855+. Same case with SD870,rebranded SD865+
This kind of sustained antutu benchmark score tests is rare... Very few UA-camrs does this.... For this, I will subscribe and I hope you always make this kind of test videos in your channel in the coming years to come. Thank you!
Golden Reviewer is the best reviewer around for several reasons. He actually provides truthful results, solid comparisons with games that matter and keeps his phones in optimal conditions for testing the effective performance in equal grounds. He needs far more recognition than this.
Poco X3 pro uses very cheap components which now resulted in many dead motherboard,sh*ty display and miui is a cherry on top for as it's one of the worst os ever.
I bought the X3 NFC (upgrade from a 4yr old SD430) back in November knowing 2021 will surely have great smartphones with a lower price. Excited to upgrade in 2022/2023.
@Golden Reviewer, this is useful! thanks! I wonder if can do the test with multiple 888 phones. rog5 is a game phone with decent efficacy but some other company's 888 product may show very different results.
If you are reading my comment Then I don't say your work is Bad But it's a Little unfair to the chips To be In different brand devices... Maybe you could have Found Devices from atleast same Brand and Android version to make The Test more Fair Between chips Anyway nice work... I like your content ❤️
Thank you so much for making comparison videos!! I'm delighted to learn of SD870 devices being extremely capable of gaming even on 400USD-ish price tag! Both F3 or K40 looks great for the hardware & price
@@szewei85 idk about that, but the thing that I'm certain is that phone's standard is going to rise in terms of performance, for example, back then PUBG mobile is the most demanding mobile game but now, even a 100$ phone can play it at high frame rate without battery issues, this will go the same with Genshin Impact as well
It'd be interesting to see this test done between the K40 and K40 Pro to see how the 888 and 870 compare under the same cooling conditions. Edit: I don't expect it to be done by you, I realize you already spend thousands on phones already, that'd be asking way too much lol.
you really cant use the stability as any reference across models.. as it is so phone depended. Take Mighty gadgets test of the SoC. they saw RealMe GT fall 52% in the same 3D mark WL stress test. and only 52% stability on SD888 and from 5850 to 3234 score and RealMe GT master explorer with SD870 they saw 99.2% stability and miles ahead on sustaining its performance with a score from 4256 to 4220. so its down to the phone's build and cooling quality. so it likely the most saying if you somewhat keep it in the same brand to have as few variables present if you wanna conclude anything in regards to throttling
Excellent test 👍🏻 AnTuTu 9.0.3 is actually the last version. I tested Yesterday the exynos 990 on note 20 ultra Android 11 one UI 3.1: the result was a surprise for me: 666551 !!! It's a better score than SD865 and no far away than SD870. But SD888 is a Master! Thanks for great video 😉
Yes, I don't try one more time, probably you're right! But my score AnTuTu shows that exynos is not bad, and can be sometime better than SD 865. For me it's a good information for users. Samsung does a good work with the lastest update, exynos seems better with Android 11 one ui 3.1, Samsung minimises differences between exynos and Snapdragon with better optimization.
It's hard to know if this is a test of cooling or the chipset itself. I've been looking at an sd870 phone and with similar cooling it should throttle less than the sd888. How different is the cooling solution between the 865 and 870?
When you get oneplus 9 pro. Please do sustained performance for it too. And if in your sustained performance testing you could include cpu throttling test (app on google play) that would be great 👌👌👍👍 Good work btw👌👌
I'm totally not kidding when I say your are the best mobile hardware performance reviewer in the world. U bring the PC hardware review style to mobile. Most are crappy. You did a solid job. I don't think I can give you enough praise. Your videeo help my decision in buying my next phone. Thank you so much and keep doing what you do. I hope you become big success n an authority in mobile hardware review because the others need to follow your mould. Nobody else is close to being able to produce the results your produce. You are at least one league higher than the other reviewer out there in the area of hardware performance. Just like Genshin Impact is one league higher in game quality Vs vast majority of mobile games out there.
Any chance that you'll test out either Oneplus 9's? It's a given that the snapdragon 888 will perform the best in a gaming phone, but I was wondering if some "regular" phones do better than others by design.
This is good comparison of how technology advances over just few years. Can you do all the latest SD 888 comparison to see which one can best handle this particular scorching procie ?
One question my friend...how well do you think Note 20 Ultra performs for LoL Wild Rift as it might be on 120Hz soon. And how realistically we should rely on these benchmark results? I know they are for an idea but in real time action, devices do perform better right? You're my expert guide so i wanted to ask you. Love your videos keep up the awesome work!!! ❤
@@GoldenReviewer Thats true higher scores mean better performance. But what do you think would Note 20 ultra be a good choice over S21? Or Fold 3? My main concern is Gaming and MST for Samsung Pay :( and the fact Note 21 or whatever is pushed to next year. Was wondering how has your experience been with Note 20 ultra? Do you feel smooth gameplays mostly. I don't want 120 fps hehehe but anywhere around 60 fps in real time should be the goal if paying that much right? Really appreciate your prompt response dear bro! ^^
Fuuuuuu! My 855 is now old :'^( well two years with it is a great lifetime. But :^) still working pretty good, im sure i can keep it one or two more years
Very interesting. I guess it's a bit tricky to truly say how much part the case plays in throttling tho. I'm looking at buying a phone for emulation on the go so this is very handy thank you.
I was looking for this test no one has done this thank you so much keep up the good work
Same goes to me...thanks dude!
Like me hi thank he bhai
Yea fr he did it so simple
Indeed
@@Kersani733 1
4:35 antutu score
Nice work
Thanks bro!
1:11 face reveal snap dragon 865 device
That's some Majin devil trigger face...
A SHIN Majin.
His face got revealed many times
I'm scared 😂
Wait, so he isn't an actual Golden Retriever?
@@RauASTER disappointed :-(
My problem was you were using a gaming phone for the 888 which has lot better thermals than any other device there. But a very good comparison and deserves a thumbs up.
Respect for Asus for making a cooling solution that can keep the SD888 running close to max performance. Every other phone with the 888 just boils itself to a standstill.
+1000
nice Comment
Does the black shark 4 pro boils with it?bc it also has sd 888 and a sandwich cooling system
Realme be like : 🗿
Yeah this was unfair because the ROG phone is unique and has the best cooling system of any phone out there.
But if they had used any other phone with a SD 888 it would have been worse than the 870.
@Karim Azz huh?
When you says "Hi Guys" ,My mind thinks "How Nice Person he is".😊
Instantly I Subscribed your channel.👍
Thank you so much for your support!
@Adrianne Shaver cringe
@@inno7845 agreed
He could be a murderer and you'll follow him home because how he said hi? Ok...
@@123playwright Xd
thats alot of phones. u can change ur phone everyday lol. may god bless ur effort man
@Not Gera It doesn't matter anyway
@Not Gera yes it matters
865 seems to be the price/performance sweet spot. The 855 isn't a huge downgrade, mind you.
870 is cheaper than 865+, u see... XD
860 or Kirin 990
870 runs Genshin Impact better than 888.
@@douglasbarr2636 it's mostly because the temperature problem. If you attach the phone with smt like funcooler the phone with better chipset will always win.
860*
I think we can all agree that ASUS has worked some magic with that Snapdragon 888 since it's almost not throttling from the stress test.
Look at genshin impact tests
It can be used as a heater
@@wouter.d.h. then what's the point of it?
It's called putting a dedicated cooling fan in a gaming phone. Unfortunately, good thermals do nothing to mitigate battery drain.
@@wouter.d.h. its bcs its made by samsung, and samsung is ASS at making cpu's
Qualcomm should just stick with TSMC
2 years passed and this video is still relevant. Some new devices still get relatively old chips for lower prices for different target buyers. Not all new devices are marketed for gaming, cheaper phones even in 2023 still get something like Snapdragon 450. I too normally don't game on mobiles as I prefer console. But just early this year 2023 I purchased a mid-range tablet for general uses, social media + entertainment + basic works. I'm happy it gets a lower-end flagship chip; Snapdragon 860. So started trying to play games with this tablet and it's more fun than I thought, really not bad at all.
If you don't care much about brand, you can get a device with the newest most powerful flagship chip 2 years after its first release for much lower price - 50% or even cheaper. Free market is good, competition is good for us consumers. One thing to consider though, it's not only about "power". The "ecosystem" for the device is important too, Apple and Samsung still dominate in this regard.
Thank you very much man for your detailed tests. There is not enough such content on UA-cam.
Waohhh very helpful comparison!! I like 865 for the most, the best cost performance model for now! Haha thank you very much for your efforts!
865 is just perfect compared to its price and performance
It's got a good stability and good performance
it will still run every game on maximum graphics and won't drop
Optimization of 865 is too good 👍
Bought snapdragon 860 phone POCO x3 pro for 17250 ruppes or u can say 234 US $.And it comes with headphone jack too 🙃
@@ravinderrs2552 headphone jack too 🙃 lol :D that thing is not needed anymore
@@MariusVerbavicius definitely needed,u can Charge and Listen music at same time and can borrow anyone's headphones when outside without even bothering about the adapter, Neither apple nor samsung will give u any adapter,Oh u are not even Getting the charger 🤣🤣.
@@ravinderrs2552 why i would need wire at all? I got bose bluetooth noise cancelling buds. No wires :) more comfort, super quality sound. With AUX 3.5mm sound was really dependent on internal amp. If phone got shit amp, it lacked good sounding. Even if you have adapter connected to headphones, it would be always connected, because it would be always needed, so charging is not a problem then with an adapter. I do not see point charging and having headphones plugged in also. It is too much wires, really uncomfortable
Seems like the f3 cooling system isn't so great 🙃
ROG5 in the other hand is just crazy that it could keep the 888 from throttling lol.
800k score , isn't the s21 ultra only like 680-700k
@@ippothedestroyer I think the scores increased after an antutu update
@@6IaI hmm I did not know that. I'll have to retest my s21 ultra again.
The rog5 is great until it breaks in half
Why is that happen?
F3 is insane, only 15% weaker than best Android CPU. Price difference between Mi 11 and F3 is 2X! Performance difference 15%!
I really want to remeber come back to this video in 10 years and comment: "LOL. Back in 2021 these where high end chipsets"
UA-cam Will not exist
Poco x3 pro is highly optimised Xiaomi/Poco did mind blowing job! 🔥
For low badjet 😁
Man should i buy that because i heard it hest a lot while gaming ?
@@aethernity8270 display is poor buy k20 pro or iqoo7
@@getsugatensho02 my budget is 20k bro 😅
You cant buy snap dragon triple 888 ..🤭🤷
Amazing state of the art review. Congratulations from Catalonia. Best wishes
I wish the 888 device wasn't a gaming phone to keep it fair. But obviously it's the only device you have so we can't complain. Thank you for the great content!
I also have S21Ultra, but people always say Samsung got bas performance...
@@GoldenReviewer I'm not sure i got what you mean? Bas like best? If so I don't agree Samsung cooling is subpar at best. I wish you used it instead of rog5. Maybe we could see a comparison between them two? S21 ultra vs rog5
@@6IaI he meant bad
Guys,just letting you know. SD860 is basically just a rebranded SD855+. Basically same prime core clock at 2.96GHz and same GPU clock at 700MHz. But it is way cheaper tho. Idk about other phone using this SoC but Poco X3 Pro is like 1/3 of the price of phones with SD855+. Same case with SD870,rebranded SD865+
This kind of sustained antutu benchmark score tests is rare... Very few UA-camrs does this.... For this, I will subscribe and I hope you always make this kind of test videos in your channel in the coming years to come. Thank you!
I can feel the deference between 845&855
But 855 865 870 have the same feeling
Great chips
Yes, the 855 is a damn good chip.
Golden Reviewer is the best reviewer around for several reasons. He actually provides truthful results, solid comparisons with games that matter and keeps his phones in optimal conditions for testing the effective performance in equal grounds. He needs far more recognition than this.
That means that the Poco X3 Pro is the best value phone considering the price/performance ratio
Poco X3 pro uses very cheap components which now resulted in many dead motherboard,sh*ty display and miui is a cherry on top for as it's one of the worst os ever.
just buy a second hand note 20 ultra
Its interesting how the older chips was very stable and consistent through the test
I bought the X3 NFC (upgrade from a 4yr old SD430) back in November knowing 2021 will surely have great smartphones with a lower price. Excited to upgrade in 2022/2023.
That's really new video... If u can add 845 and 835 version too then it will me on the next level 😊
35 and 45 too old now sorry
@@dabdoube92 Still better than most midrange chips tho😌
@@dabdoube92 Also 835 n 845 are already optimised for a lot of games, unlike 888 yet.
Great content. I've always wanted to see the actual generational differences. 👏
It's not fair to measure the 888's sustained performance with a phone that's built for gaming.
Amazing video, very informative!
Don't forget to mention that Antutu part is based on all new 9.0.3 version
did they change the scoring?
@@EliteReviews yes they did. +5-10% more than in 8.5.6
@@iHorus okau
The S10 Plus is still very impressive! Holds up VERY Well.
@Golden Reviewer, this is useful! thanks! I wonder if can do the test with multiple 888 phones. rog5 is a game phone with decent efficacy but some other company's 888 product may show very different results.
Looks like SD 870 it's best deal price / performance at POCO F3 price.
Monster SoC for the price of mid-range.
If you are reading my comment
Then I don't say your work is Bad
But it's a Little unfair to the chips To be In different brand devices... Maybe you could have Found Devices from atleast same Brand and Android version to make The Test more Fair Between chips
Anyway nice work... I like your content ❤️
It's bthe right thing that i bought poco x3 pro during its sale. I'll just buy a gaming phone in the next 1-2 years
Ur right
Thank you so much for making comparison videos!! I'm delighted to learn of SD870 devices being extremely capable of gaming even on 400USD-ish price tag! Both F3 or K40 looks great for the hardware & price
Which should i pick Bro?
870 or 865
@@samsungindia.pvtltd4469 870 is little bit better in gaming like 3_4% otherwise for daily use , both are same for non gamers.
@@rkc123 thank bro
@@samsungindia.pvtltd4469 whats ur update bro on ur new phone?
@@depressionexpert3685 I picked 870..but I think 860 would be better..
I really love the new Poco F3 it's awesome ❤️
What i want Thank you bro! #snapdragon 855 user here
860 user here
I have 855 too, still good.
@@guilhe90 yes yes
@@guilhe90 STILL GOOD for gaming ?
Thanks for making this video....this clear so many doubt
I've been waiting for this video ✨️
This is extremely useful and super helpful because you put the phones under sustained load. Thank you so much
Poco x3 pro is amazing😍
This is brilliant 👌🏼
Why less views😢😢😢.
Good content❤️❤️
What a perfect review totally informative and no bullshit
I can see the signs that phone's standard will rise significantly in 2023/2024 while maintaining the same price
How about exynos X AMD?😂🤣I am flagship guy. So budget phones not in my league. LEL.
@@szewei85 idk about that, but the thing that I'm certain is that phone's standard is going to rise in terms of performance, for example, back then PUBG mobile is the most demanding mobile game but now, even a 100$ phone can play it at high frame rate without battery issues, this will go the same with Genshin Impact as well
@@justarandomperson868 lets hope so then haha
Really a comprehensive video on Qualcomm flagship chip's performance. I wanted to see this video ever since 888, 870 came out. Now I am delighted.
It'd be interesting to see this test done between the K40 and K40 Pro to see how the 888 and 870 compare under the same cooling conditions.
Edit: I don't expect it to be done by you, I realize you already spend thousands on phones already, that'd be asking way too much lol.
This is the best comparation ever..
Thank you :)
I hope you can compare about middle and low chipset after this.
🙏
best kind of comparison would have gaming phones because they would most probably allow the CPUs to work to their full potential.
Mind blowing stuff man 👌❤️❤️
U deserve millions of suscribers❤️❣️
Haha happy 2 watch it on my s20 ultra snappy 865. Not a gamer myself but love this chip as the great battery saver unlike the 990 exynos.
You should deserve millions of subscribers
you really cant use the stability as any reference across models..
as it is so phone depended.
Take Mighty gadgets test of the SoC.
they saw RealMe GT fall 52% in the same 3D mark WL stress test. and only 52% stability on SD888 and from 5850 to 3234 score
and RealMe GT master explorer with SD870 they saw 99.2% stability and miles ahead on sustaining its performance with a score from 4256 to 4220.
so its down to the phone's build and cooling quality.
so it likely the most saying if you somewhat keep it in the same brand to have as few variables present if you wanna conclude anything in regards to throttling
Great review! But please next time leave the names of the devices on the top please 🙏
Excellent test 👍🏻
AnTuTu 9.0.3 is actually the last version.
I tested Yesterday the exynos 990 on note 20 ultra Android 11 one UI 3.1: the result was a surprise for me:
666551 !!!
It's a better score than SD865 and no far away than SD870.
But SD888 is a Master!
Thanks for great video 😉
Yes, I don't try one more time, probably you're right!
But my score AnTuTu shows that exynos is not bad, and can be sometime better than SD 865. For me it's a good information for users.
Samsung does a good work with the lastest update, exynos seems better with Android 11 one ui 3.1, Samsung minimises differences between exynos and Snapdragon with better optimization.
Good comparison testing... Snapdragon is the best performing in the world.
It's hard to know if this is a test of cooling or the chipset itself. I've been looking at an sd870 phone and with similar cooling it should throttle less than the sd888. How different is the cooling solution between the 865 and 870?
The 865 is better. The 870 is nothing more than a gimmick to sell an overclocked 865.
Snapdragon 865 best chipset of 2020.... 👍🙌👌
Cool comparison. Thanks!
Would love to see sd888's performance on a non-rog phone
In most phones even up to the latest released December 2021, it is hot reaching up to 52 degrees Celsius.
Good job brother amazing video keep up
The gap between SD870 and SD888 is closer than i thought. SD870 is a very good choice for a flagship killer !
Yeah. Though in the nutshell 870 is just 865++
I love u man ur the best every video i think of u do it thanks
im just gonna sit in the corner with my snapdragon 425
865... No heat and great battery back up
When you get oneplus 9 pro. Please do sustained performance for it too. And if in your sustained performance testing you could include cpu throttling test (app on google play) that would be great 👌👌👍👍
Good work btw👌👌
Thanks for the suggestion!
you ever faced the screen dimming issues on poco f3?
I'm totally not kidding when I say your are the best mobile hardware performance reviewer in the world. U bring the PC hardware review style to mobile. Most are crappy. You did a solid job. I don't think I can give you enough praise. Your videeo help my decision in buying my next phone. Thank you so much and keep doing what you do. I hope you become big success n an authority in mobile hardware review because the others need to follow your mould. Nobody else is close to being able to produce the results your produce.
You are at least one league higher than the other reviewer out there in the area of hardware performance. Just like Genshin Impact is one league higher in game quality Vs vast majority of mobile games out there.
Any chance that you'll test out either Oneplus 9's? It's a given that the snapdragon 888 will perform the best in a gaming phone, but I was wondering if some "regular" phones do better than others by design.
U should have put model names above phones.
Anyway the video was good.
Do u guys think that SD860 can support 90 fps in pubg ? I mean with file modification or gfx
Yes but it will not be able to give 90 fps constant
可以、我在用、手機自帶的游戏模式里开啓
We all appreciate to your hard work 🥺
Poco f3 or k40 gaming witch one is the best for gaming( Pubg)in 90 fps and is the k40 gaming more C° than the poco f3?
This is good comparison of how technology advances over just few years. Can you do all the latest SD 888 comparison to see which one can best handle this particular scorching procie ?
I was really looking for such video
Really nice content..
Help me a lot😀😀😀
Should have gone with a nongaming phone for SD888. Something fanless. Nevertheless great effort mate
Thankyou so much bro, so glad watch your video
One question my friend...how well do you think Note 20 Ultra performs for LoL Wild Rift as it might be on 120Hz soon. And how realistically we should rely on these benchmark results? I know they are for an idea but in real time action, devices do perform better right? You're my expert guide so i wanted to ask you. Love your videos keep up the awesome work!!! ❤
I'll test the note 20ultra when 120hz support is here. And yes the device with higher scores generally perform better
@@GoldenReviewer Thats true higher scores mean better performance. But what do you think would Note 20 ultra be a good choice over S21? Or Fold 3? My main concern is Gaming and MST for Samsung Pay :( and the fact Note 21 or whatever is pushed to next year. Was wondering how has your experience been with Note 20 ultra? Do you feel smooth gameplays mostly. I don't want 120 fps hehehe but anywhere around 60 fps in real time should be the goal if paying that much right?
Really appreciate your prompt response dear bro! ^^
What app did you use to test them
Thanks a lot for such a detailed review 👍
Awesome Video! Thanks!
What app are you using for The fps and cpu monitor in this video?
855 bile oldukça yeterli olduğunu düşünüyorum 888 almak biraz fazlalık olabilir
keep in mind that performance can vary between devices using the same chipset
Yes, but not so much, like +/- 1% only
One of the best tech reviewers out there.
What version of Antutu did you use?
pls test s21 ultra..curious abt the performance after updates!
The cooler the processor the more battery life ... and the phone life last long just a" logical theory".
There's a device here in the UK for £150 which comes with the Snapdragon 860 installed, 128gb storage, quad 48mp camera and 120hz display
It must be a poco X3 pro
Do you have one for Apple? Iphone X onwards?
Which program are you using for fps count
Fuuuuuu! My 855 is now old :'^( well two years with it is a great lifetime. But :^) still working pretty good, im sure i can keep it one or two more years
Hey golden retriever is the Mi10t pro good for gaming in 2022
Very good comparison tests. Thank you
Very interesting. I guess it's a bit tricky to truly say how much part the case plays in throttling tho. I'm looking at buying a phone for emulation on the go so this is very handy thank you.
Hello bro How did you get around 570k Antutu score on the snap860 while the others only around 490k below? Please answer me I’m confused
Antutu v9 gives higher score
great review!