We have a Deere air drill to plant wheat for cattle to graze in the winter. It’s the same way, you gotta weigh the seed. Swath control is fine, but like yours it’s a lot of trial and error to get it close so the rule of thumb don’t start by the road where the neighbors can see 🤣 we put out fertilizer with ours and it’s not the air drill with the cart it’s the one with the tanks on the bar.
Brian, I work for a UK Horsch distributor and all of the issues you have mentioned have been changed in the late 2022/ 2023 model, total redesign of the software (not retrofittable to yours unfortunately), including renaming of tanks, individual row control instead of sections if you’re happy to pay for it, and a change in how the outer support wheels behave. You mention the one metering system not registering a blockage, do you not get a motor speed warning? Too slow or too higher voltage? I’ve yet to come across this problem, but glad you are enjoying the Horsch product. 👍🏼
On our john deere 1990 ccs air seeder, we retrofitted the meter rolls with electric drive intellidrive units. This system gives us 12 sections instead of two and is capable of prescription seeding. It's a bit wide, but a fantastic machine otherwise. (The 12 sections come out to just over 3ft per section on a 40ft drill
How’s that work? I have the same thing and never messed with the prescription. It’s would be nice to have a couple different pops on the intellidrive page
@@jarrodwemhoff7270 where you set the population on the intellidrive page, I believe there is an Rx option. It's been too many months to remember exactly lol but it wasn't too difficult
I thought for sure Brian, your interview of those fendt engineers a few years back a (i think?) The farm progress show, was foreshadowing the purchase of a fendt seeder or planter. I am glad this machine has met or exceeded your expectations.
If they made an update for those wing wheels to swivel like casters that would be golden and stop the dirt mounding problems. Seem like a solid nice unit.
It sounds like the first year of cons was more figuring the system out more than anything, awesome review. Yall have a Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year.
Recent subscriber here ,I really enjoy your videos, the lunch lady is a real cutie,love the fact that you have a long term family business and all seems to work in uniform fashion. Very glad I found your channel, it’s very informative and fun to watch. Thanks for what you do and thanks for sharing it with us.
You do a great job on your reviews. And you get to the bottom line at the end. Hopefully the engineers listen to the customers' feedback. Usually takes too long for them to pay attention. I like simple and minimum alarms sounding.
Looked a Maestro a few years ago and like you really liked how simple they are. Only reason we didn’t go that route was the downforce they had at the time. Thought it was a step back from DeltaForce. Now you can get that on Horsch so maybe next time.
Great review. Very honest. 👍 They are built like a tank. Built to give great service for years. The thing I don’t like unless you have lot of head hight in your shop hard to unfold in a normal shop hight. Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year. 🎉🎉🎉
Dealer support would be #1 factor. I can't help but wonder if you turned those tires around if it wouldn't bite as bad? Directional tread steer tires are suppose to be mounted backwards to help bite when turning.
Brian on our Raven screen for the sprayer you have a look ahead as well but you can switch it between time and distance maybe that wil help with the speed issue🤷
I looked at one at the farm show in Louisville. Thought it was a neat machine. How well does it flex/ follow the ground contour on rolling and terraced fields?
Merry Christmas Brian Kayla "Dad" and BJ from Sydney Australia. What was sprayed on the bean crop - my guess is Nitrogen? Can you see a bright star in the night sky 'they say... orange stars are planets but the low star in the East is the 'Star of David' in the Northern Hemisphere .... See if you can see it? 🌟 🌲
The farm I work at has 2, one that was new last fall. Ran them cover cropping in the fall and missed out on Soybeans. Had pretty much the same issues you had but they are definitely nice to run.
Worker for a farm that bought the corn planter. Not a good deal. Seed meters were like a saw blade. Filled the bar with the tips off of the seed corn. They need round seed to meter it accurately. All kinds of issues.
I’m looking at a flexicoil airseeder. Might be a mistake but I’m not sure. It will be the first one I have owned. Have you noticed any yield drag going from 7 1/2” wheat to 10” or 15” to 10” on beans? I’m looking for yield data from a study showing results but haven’t been able to find anything especially on wheat.
Had a 6m 20 ft on demo two rows of coulters 36 to your 46? Made a comparable job to our JD 750A😮😮😊 would have been better with firming wheels demo just had Keaton seed firmer, okay in wetter conditions on our clay. The Horsch is way nicer to fill calibrate fold tow on the road and generally operate, the JD being around way longer has many more after market options to trick it up. Going to be interesting to see when we change. Olly contracts in the UK has a 40 ft been following his results with interest.
On mounting ground up when turning, skip a run and then come back, you're not nearly turning as sharp doing it that way, or better, use beet-modus ( If you have the auto headland Turn option on your FENDT ) ua-cam.com/video/vGbX9AGvJV8/v-deo.html Turn CC on and select Englisch in Auto-translate. Question, Why a Avatar and not the Pronto? ( I think I know that answer )
I wondered what you thought of the 10" rows as well, but mainly for your beans, and spraying? I have a neighbor planting wheat In 15" rows with a kinze planter. It looks funny growing but yeilds really well.
Brian or anyone. I ment to ask, how do you go about innoculating your beans? I never see the process on farming videos, just guys filling straight out of the seed totes?
I know this video came out after you were in fargo nd. 20 miles to the west of fargo is where that air seeder was built in Mapleton nd. To bad the weather was so crappy you could have went and checked that out
Tractor tires are directional, when they are on a driven axle they are turned the "correct" way for them to clean out and get traction better. When it is a ground driven application, i.e. grain cart, pull type sprayer, seeder/planter, the rear of a 2 WD combine, the opposite direction is the correct way since the ground is supplying the driving force. It keeps them rolling better. Driving on pavement, the tires wear a lot longer running backwards.
this is funny to see, here farmers are trying to get seeding done more and more with planters because they are more efficient with the seed than an airseeder and brians just over here discovering them for the first time
Don’t know if you made it to Fargo or not. I was just trying to figure out how to drive back to Fargo without ending up in the ditch. What a winter storm for the ages and not not that much snow from past major events. This thing just has a lot of slush and ice. Then snow covered it up.
Gutless MT765 Challengers can run them up to 13mph or faster cover cropping. Seed depth starts being problematic to my understanding for crops that care (like soybeans) when you get going fast though.
As a German it makes me really happy to see a Fendt with a Horsch.
Laurens, I would have to agree Fendt are a solid machine
We have a Deere air drill to plant wheat for cattle to graze in the winter. It’s the same way, you gotta weigh the seed. Swath control is fine, but like yours it’s a lot of trial and error to get it close so the rule of thumb don’t start by the road where the neighbors can see 🤣 we put out fertilizer with ours and it’s not the air drill with the cart it’s the one with the tanks on the bar.
Brian, I work for a UK Horsch distributor and all of the issues you have mentioned have been changed in the late 2022/ 2023 model, total redesign of the software (not retrofittable to yours unfortunately), including renaming of tanks, individual row control instead of sections if you’re happy to pay for it, and a change in how the outer support wheels behave. You mention the one metering system not registering a blockage, do you not get a motor speed warning? Too slow or too higher voltage? I’ve yet to come across this problem, but glad you are enjoying the Horsch product. 👍🏼
Good honest review. Nice work. I will have to get the sprayer down to your farm someday. You would love it.
You have a doppelganger in Australia. Camshaft farming and mechanical. Love your videos as always! Merry Christmas and God Bless the farmers!
OMG yes! Now lets get Brain to do the Aussie accent! Also CF&M looks to be a very good channel too. Thanks for the tip.
On our john deere 1990 ccs air seeder, we retrofitted the meter rolls with electric drive intellidrive units. This system gives us 12 sections instead of two and is capable of prescription seeding. It's a bit wide, but a fantastic machine otherwise. (The 12 sections come out to just over 3ft per section on a 40ft drill
How’s that work? I have the same thing and never messed with the prescription. It’s would be nice to have a couple different pops on the intellidrive page
@@jarrodwemhoff7270 where you set the population on the intellidrive page, I believe there is an Rx option. It's been too many months to remember exactly lol but it wasn't too difficult
I don't think that would work the best with horch since its just 2 towers so sections probably can't happen but who knows
@@brysonhaggard this would definitely not work on the horsch or any tower style air seeder
@@roberturich5346 I don't think you could get any kinda shut off and if you did it'd be 20ft each sections
I thought for sure Brian, your interview of those fendt engineers a few years back a (i think?) The farm progress show, was foreshadowing the purchase of a fendt seeder or planter. I am glad this machine has met or exceeded your expectations.
If they made an update for those wing wheels to swivel like casters that would be golden and stop the dirt mounding problems. Seem like a solid nice unit.
Looking at their screen a couple years ago took me back to the apple 2 and Oregon trail…good on you for making that thing work…👍🏼
Very clean, neat and simple……thanks for the review!
It sounds like the first year of cons was more figuring the system out more than anything, awesome review. Yall have a Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year.
Happy holidays. Look forward for more videos next year 🎉🎉🎉
Thx Brian, I was very interested in what you thought of the Horsch Avatar !!!
Recent subscriber here ,I really enjoy your videos, the lunch lady is a real cutie,love the fact that you have a long term family business and all seems to work in uniform fashion. Very glad I found your channel, it’s very informative and fun to watch. Thanks for what you do and thanks for sharing it with us.
Thanks for watching
You do a great job on your reviews. And you get to the bottom line at the end. Hopefully the engineers listen to the customers' feedback. Usually takes too long for them to pay attention. I like simple and minimum alarms sounding.
Simple is generally more reliable and cheaper to fix or maintain.
Nice review, German quality has proofed it self already, stay safe you all greetings from a Dutch dairyfarmer
Very informative. Merry Christmas to you and your family.
Merry Christmas Brian to you and your family really enjoy your videos. You’re in my thoughts and prayers, grace and peace.
Отличная не убиваемая машина, проблема фермеров в том, что некоторые не знают как правильно производить регулировки и обслуживание
Merry Christmas to all! It’s been a good year with y’all. Maybe an Avatar corn planter will show up for y’all to demo a few acreas
Merry Xmas and Happy New Year to you and yours.
Looked a Maestro a few years ago and like you really liked how simple they are. Only reason we didn’t go that route was the downforce they had at the time. Thought it was a step back from DeltaForce. Now you can get that on Horsch so maybe next time.
Merry Christmas to you and all of your families!
Merry Xmas from me to you and your family. Hope your New Year is prosporous for you. Hope we get more great videos in 2023
Thanks for the very thorough review. Looking forward to your review of the Fendt. Merry Christmas to you and your family.
Merry Christmas early to the entire Brown family
Merry Christmas to you, Kayla, Bob, BJ and all the kids.
Brian, I would put a strong flat magnet 🧲 on that box lid to keep the lid from falling into your field !?
Great review. Very honest. 👍
They are built like a tank. Built to give great service for years. The thing I don’t like unless you have lot of head hight in your shop hard to unfold in a normal shop hight.
Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year. 🎉🎉🎉
After the "Case of bad judgement" anything would be better! Merry Christmas and Happy New Year!
Mornin, I am subscribed and my like 👍 is in. Comment for the algorithm ✔️ . Happy subscriber for sure 😊 !
Dealer support would be #1 factor. I can't help but wonder if you turned those tires around if it wouldn't bite as bad? Directional tread steer tires are suppose to be mounted backwards to help bite when turning.
The outside tires should be on a swivel. Can’t believe they didn’t do that.
Brian on our Raven screen for the sprayer you have a look ahead as well but you can switch it between time and distance maybe that wil help with the speed issue🤷
Brian are you happy with the dealer support? I remember there were concerns in the beginning.
Mornin’. Glad your back…
Merry Christmas from Wisconsin.
Merry Christmas 🎄
I looked at one at the farm show in Louisville. Thought it was a neat machine. How well does it flex/ follow the ground contour on rolling and terraced fields?
That is actually a negative I forgot. It is 2 20 foot sections so it doesn’t flex as much as I’d like. That said it was terrible.
The planter version has 4 flex points as well as more flex in the parallel arms
@@BriansFarmingVideos did you mean to say: ''that said it WASN'T terrible'' ??
Merry Christmas Brian Kayla "Dad" and BJ from Sydney Australia.
What was sprayed on the bean crop - my guess is Nitrogen?
Can you see a bright star in the night sky 'they say... orange stars are planets but the low star in the East is the 'Star of David' in the Northern Hemisphere .... See if you can see it?
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A local farmer here in UK has a Horsch uses it for everything and does no till :)
Horsch sprayer booms are unreal!!
Great stuff, Brian. Here's your algorithm boost.
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The farm I work at has 2, one that was new last fall. Ran them cover cropping in the fall and missed out on Soybeans. Had pretty much the same issues you had but they are definitely nice to run.
*This is what I get for writing at night, the farm I work at not have
Worker for a farm that bought the corn planter. Not a good deal. Seed meters were like a saw blade. Filled the bar with the tips off of the seed corn. They need round seed to meter it accurately. All kinds of issues.
New horsch AirVac metering system no longer uses the stainless discs. They are a plastic material similar to other manufacturers. They work great!
I’m looking at a flexicoil airseeder. Might be a mistake but I’m not sure.
It will be the first one I have owned. Have you noticed any yield drag going from 7 1/2” wheat to 10” or 15” to 10” on beans? I’m looking for yield data from a study showing results but haven’t been able to find anything especially on wheat.
Marry Chirstmas And Happy New Years And May God Be With You And Your. FAMILY I. Enjoy Your Video Keep Them Coming
Right back at ya
what was the price difference between that seeder compared to a 16row ccs planter and merry christmas to your family.
100k cheaper I think
Very good critique!
Option to do tank 1 with fertilizer and tank 2 with beans? For those of us who band our starter with beans
Had a 6m 20 ft on demo two rows of coulters 36 to your 46? Made a comparable job to our JD 750A😮😮😊 would have been better with firming wheels demo just had Keaton seed firmer, okay in wetter conditions on our clay. The Horsch is way nicer to fill calibrate fold tow on the road and generally operate, the JD being around way longer has many more after market options to trick it up. Going to be interesting to see when we change. Olly contracts in the UK has a 40 ft been following his results with interest.
I am sure that tractor pulls it like it’s not there. But does it pull hard?
Merry Christmas Brown family and whoever reads this
Merry Christmas
Can you grind the edges of those R4 tiers to minimize plowing on the corners.
I guess a caster wheel is a option??
On mounting ground up when turning, skip a run and then come back, you're not nearly turning as sharp doing it that way, or better, use beet-modus ( If you have the auto headland Turn option on your FENDT ) ua-cam.com/video/vGbX9AGvJV8/v-deo.html Turn CC on and select Englisch in Auto-translate.
Question, Why a Avatar and not the Pronto? ( I think I know that answer )
What about the jcb loader lol. Been looking at them but something new has problems some times. Merry Christmas amigo
Your going to North Dakota in the winter w a blizzard coming in !! We will see you in May !!! 🤣
Hello! Does the 10" spacing affect the wheat's yield?
I wondered what you thought of the 10" rows as well, but mainly for your beans, and spraying?
I have a neighbor planting wheat In 15" rows with a kinze planter. It looks funny growing but yeilds really well.
@@michaelcummings1862 Hello! In Europe, the standard is five to seven inches row spacing for small grains.
Merry Christmas!
👍👍🙏 HAPPY HOLIDAYS. THANKS
Brian or anyone. I ment to ask, how do you go about innoculating your beans? I never see the process on farming videos, just guys filling straight out of the seed totes?
Great video.
Odd question…Can you plant corn with it?
Morning from Siesta Key Florida
Can we get an update about the variable rate fertilizer? the videos you showed with uneven corn and stuff looked pretty bad, was it?
30-50bu worse
Are you going to Fargo because you like the movie so much?
I love that movie
I know this video came out after you were in fargo nd. 20 miles to the west of fargo is where that air seeder was built in Mapleton nd. To bad the weather was so crappy you could have went and checked that out
greeat reveiw brian well done
Thanks for watching
If those wing wheels could swivel could that help?
Ya'll need a sip o' coffee..... gits rid of them dry throats. MERRY CHRISTMAS to all the family and HAPPY NEW YEAR!
What is the reasoning behind the tire tread being backwards on the seeder?
It’s a trailing wheel not a driven wheel. No need for excessive traction.
Tractor tires are directional, when they are on a driven axle they are turned the "correct" way for them to clean out and get traction better. When it is a ground driven application, i.e. grain cart, pull type sprayer, seeder/planter, the rear of a 2 WD combine, the opposite direction is the correct way since the ground is supplying the driving force. It keeps them rolling better. Driving on pavement, the tires wear a lot longer running backwards.
Great review!
Needs a power ladder ! ;-)
Thumbs up.,have a good one
this is funny to see, here farmers are trying to get seeding done more and more with planters because they are more efficient with the seed than an airseeder and brians just over here discovering them for the first time
I wouldn’t run an airseeder for corn and I think that a planter is much more accurate but this was about half price
@@BriansFarmingVideos makes sense. you gotta save a whole lot of seed before that pays for itself
And also when is brown farms going to be put on farming simulator 22
Curious what the reasoning was in getting rid of 2140 Case IH planter
Lots of little issues and we had a chance to get rid of it for what we paid
Thanks for sharing
Hi this is cool
Don’t know if you made it to Fargo or not. I was just trying to figure out how to drive back to Fargo without ending up in the ditch. What a winter storm for the ages and not not that much snow from past major events. This thing just has a lot of slush and ice. Then snow covered it up.
Made it there and back
If you don't want those wing wheels berming can't you just raise them slightly off the ground?
Thanks for the video buddy
Thanks
thank you
Nice video thanks
Good stuff!
Good video
Is your Ideal combine all fixed and back on the farm now ready for next season?
We don’t own an ideal
Very good Video 👍👍
When your built like a 40’ HORSCH you don’t need a Porsche 🤣
Can you set it on 20 in rows
Went from a 1775nt to a maestro and are very very happy
How much is the space bethwen rows?
10”
Good video.
Why don’t you drill fertiliser and beans same time
Because I don’t want to
Mornin
Wow already been one yr darn just flew by it seemed like
How many horse does it take to run the machine at 7mph
Not to bad a 300 Hp tractor would do it unless you are really rolling
Gutless MT765 Challengers can run them up to 13mph or faster cover cropping. Seed depth starts being problematic to my understanding for crops that care (like soybeans) when you get going fast though.
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Hope good reason to go to ND in December/January 😂
Crary event