Why Are Animated Films Cartoony Nowadays?
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- Опубліковано 8 гру 2016
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I'm not really sure I want cartoony movies to die. They can be done well. However, I'd prefer to have more films like Zootopia and Inside Out which focus more on script and impact to the audience.
LilKen Yeah Collision Course was a mess.
Silvia's Reviews at least buck was back.
However, I'd prefer to have more films like Zootopia and Inside Out which focus more on script and impact to the audience." Hah! No.
If the alternative is Inside Out with all of its pretentiousness then give me more cartooney movies.
A few facts.
There's nothing wrong with cartoony animation. It's fun, vibrate and creative when done with structure. I just wish studios and the general public didn't make cartoony animation synonymous with mind-numbing kid crap.
Jean Black Yeah, in fact, there’s plenty of films (Mainly Cloudy With A Chance Of Meatballs, the Hotel Transylvania films, etc) that actually do a good job with this form of animation.
@@Isaacarthy Say that to AniMat lol
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I dunno. Cloudy With a Chance of Meatballs 1 had passable animation in my opinion, but Cloudy 2 was fucking over-exaggerated. The same situation is with Hotel Transylvania, but the over-exaggerated animation is in all the sequels.
While this is a good video, I don't like the labels of cartoony vs animated film. They're all animated films, they just have different styles. I would have preferred realistic vs cartoony, while examining the merits of both.
Sam Pines keep in mind he said CATEGORY meaning that they're all animated films but have a distinct style that would consider them different enough to be in CATEGORIES
"Cartoony Movie" is more of a subcategory with the broader term of "Animated Film".
Personally the only thing that's good about the more cartoony animated films recently are the character designs. I HATE it when computer animated films (plus live action/animated films) try to make the characters look more realistic because they'll often make them very hideous to the point that I'm not invested by the plot due to being distracted by their ugly designs. I'm not saying every animated film should have the more cartoony look. I feel like the majority of them should be like Disney, Pixar and even Illuminations where it's a good mixture of realistic and cartoony.
ToucanLDM The Croods come to mind, I found giving them realistic looking skin disturbing.
Or heck, even how the way we draw/paint/render/whatever our art.
I have found you!! I like the videos where you animated the characters' lips.
Yeah, most times when people try to make animated characters look realistic, it turns ugly real fast. But you can't forget films like The Polar Express or TinTin (does anybody remember that movie outside of the UK?), which look very good despite their realistic animation.
ToucanLDM yeah, when something is human but not human enough it's like it's trying to be human and its uncanny
The mentality that everything should be "realistic' is how we got ...well the entire DCEU. And look how that's doing for them.
Matt's point is that a movie animated movies can be good if they have a good script and treat it with respect, he hates cartoony movies because there's a clear disregard for telling a story and are more concerned in cramming as many celebrities, pop songs, gags and refferences than telling a story. Emperor's New Groove is one of his favorite films because it balances the whacky over the top animation with a good story and characters.
What's DCEU?
DC Extended Universe- It's composed of films like Suicide Squad and Batman V Superman
These films are merely the lateral extreme opposite of it.
I personally dont care if a movie is cartoony or realistic.
If i like it , I dont mind the style or desing.
I like both anyways.
As long as the animation isn't shit and the writing is at least decent then yes.
Mgen G. Agreed
Animation is a medium not a genre because "it focuses on story-telling more" or whatever bs. Animated movies can become all sorts of genres whether it be comedy, fantasy etc. If a movie wants to have a decent script and be a comedic-fest or zany as hell then let it be as long as it succeeds in doing that.
Thank you! That's what Hollywood, and animation executives most of the time forget these days!
Why can’t animated movies be like anime
Anime does great storytelling, they don’t do childish humor, they take risk and they are more original why can’t animated films do the same?
Anime movies are animated movies. They just come from a different country.
@@WakerOfTheCryingRainSo, you’re saying you want the “Paw Patrol” movie to be like anime, correct?
This is one of the reasons why I think that Prince of Egypt is the best Dreamworks movie!
that was a good movie.
Prince not price
@@maxmantell5009 Ha, 4 years that typo was there, and nobody (including me) notice up until now.
Not really.
You forgot to mention Aardman! Having a cartoonish style and sometimes have the same humor style, but also with thought and artistry put into their films.
If a movie's sole purpose is to entertain, it's not a bad thing.
If a movie's sole purpose is to tell a good story, it can be a good thing.
But if a movie butchers anyone one of those purposes or in some cases, both, then we will have a massive problem.
Case and Point: Emojimovie.
Emojimovie: Express Yourself hasn't even come out yet.
TheSlayFer Ch. T.
That movie isn't even out yet so it's pretty unfair to judge this early.
But yeah, I don't expect much from it but we'll have to wait and see.
***** All the signs that will be bad are there: The studio's track record, the "writers", the set up, the gimmick, the constructs that are the protagonists, the voice actors, the entire way Sony's marketing it, the list goes on.
Just out of curiosity, what is your opinion on Tom and Jerry: The Movie? Which category would you say that would go under or do you think it fails at both?
Not gonna lie, while I do admire both realistic and cartoony animation, I lean more towards the ladder. But if I do wanna make a cartoony movie, I'll try to make it a substance flick first, a chock full of laughs second, and well animated last.
KyleMan88789 GoAnimate&Stuff Great.
Agree.
*latter... you go up a ladder to reach high places.
3:43 yes because the thing that made disney popular wasn't silly, short cartoons
AJSSPACEPLACE He was referring to what Walt Disney did after making short cartoons.
Yeah we know he started his career making cartoons which are still popular in a way but Walt Disney is still remembered more for making movies!
No Mat, the real reason they're cartoony is beacuse...uh..MONEY!!!!
Riyad's RANTS and Reviews. How MUCH though in the Long run?
Only Illumination's Yellow Tumors are making money, Trolls, Storks and all that noise at best break even, but that's domestically, for some insane reason China are the ones that keep franchises like Ice Age and the Chimpmunks films going. I wish I was joking.
Thomas Fredrickson The fuck is the long run?
Riyad's RANTS and Reviews. Money? Pff nah
SBells27 Ok, fine...uh..The green stuff you keep in your pocket.
This is not fair to DreamWorks Animation. After all, the Kung Fu Panda and How to Train Your Dragon series, and individual filim like Mr. Peabody & Sherman and The Croods were widely hailed for their writing and graphic styles.
Furthermore, DA has already trumped Disney/PIxar before; remember when Pixar threw away its artistic reputation in 2011with that piece of toyetic garbage called Cars 2? In the same year, DA released the widely hailed Kung Fu Panda 2 and Puss in Boots, each with a cartoony visual style, the latter of which outgrossed Cars 2 worldwide and both were Oscar nominated for Best Animated Feature while Cars 2 was shut out.
kchishol1970 and I also disagree with AniMat's stances on Illumination. To me, they're a one hit wonder studio. They've only done one good movie (albeit a series) and it's Despicable Me. The rest are just either, from what I've heard, mediocre, uninteresting, or awful.
DreamWorks USED to make great work, but now I think they're starting to become as lower tier as Blue Sky, Warner Bros and Sony (before Spider-Verse) ever since Comcast bought them.
Also, Cars 2 may have broken Pixar's creative winning streak a little, but they still managed to recover after.
dreamworks had plenty of animated comedies (animat definition) and a few just cartoony movies where they put even less emphasis on the script
@@saulthechicanootaku Well aniMat did a video on illumination ua-cam.com/video/96CAl08ZSFM/v-deo.html
@@disneyfan8719 Blue Sky Studios actually got SHUT DOWN by Disney earlier this year.
Hey, don't underestimate the $5 bin. The way I see it, those things are gold mines because if you dig through enough dirt, you'll find the gold. That's how I found my copies of Beetlejuice, Zombieland, Corpse Bride, The Iron Giant, and The Road to El Dorado.
I think he meant for those movies going to the five dollar bin earlier then they needed to be. The older a movie is, the more likely it is to go to the discount section.
Though timeless classics do at times still stay out of the 5 bin simply because of how well received they are.
Hi, Eddie.
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I Found Spongebob Movie And Ghostbuster in the 5 Dollar Bill
There is only one problem with animated movies these days, and that is that they are all comedies. Just once I would like to see a dramatic CGI animated feature from America.
Not all movies need to be deep stories. Sometimes it's okay to have fun for the sake of the stupidity.
You do know that movies like those make for bad ones, right?
MrGagMan Emperers new groove: Am I a joke to you?
I agree. However, it seems like nowadays these movies tend to go on extremes on either end! Either they're TOO deep or they're so silly that it becomes irritating. At least that's how I see it. There is an in-between way of doing animated films, and it disappoints me greatly that not many people seem to see it.
@@GriffinGuitartwelve i think the first 2 despicable mes are good examples of the intermediate
@@randomcat5262 fair enough. I can see that
"Some like "Trolls; others like "The Boss Baby"." (Even though the latter is not out yet, lol.)
Personally, I have no problem with anything too cartoony! I like it more then animation that's close to real life!
Alejandro Carbonell As a kid growing up, I thought computer animation would never be able to capture the style of looney tunes. I'm glad I was wrong.
I prefer the middle ground. Things like Zootopia, Lion King, Kung Fu Panda.
I agree! There's a reason why people use animation. It's for over exaggerated expressions and settings.
Soarxisscared It can still be serious tho!
I have to admit that my biggest disagreement with Mat regards the character designs and animation in the Hotel Transylvania films. I actually really like it, as I feel it makes good use of poses with distinct silouettes, line of action, etc., and the designs (by people like Craig Kellman and Paul Ruddish I think) are appealing to me. I'll admit that everything about those films are a mixed bag, granted, but I think he's too hard in their visuals. I've wanted to get that off my chest for a while.
I actually enjoy the first Ice Age and Cloudy movies
He sighted the Ice Age SEQUELS specifically.
Andrew Dz It tried to have cartoony animation, mainly on Scrat. But the technology wasn't quite really. The only good thing about the sequels is that they are able to do the cartoony animation right.
I actually like the Cloudy movies too, And in an unpopular opinion, I thought Storks is one of the best non-Disney animated movies I've seen in the 2010's, and even go as far to put it #4 in my top 6 Animated movies I've seen this year (the latter being Moana, Finding Dory, and Zootopia)
Aw man, you NEED to see Kubo and the Two Strings
I also enjoy despicable me 1
Because Minions is popular.
Simple as that.
Esme Marion
I think Sony were the innovators of Cartoony Movies.
@@austinreed7343 yeah I mean don’t forget Sony pictures animation existed before minions
6:04
"The filmmakers care more about the visuals than the script."
Pretty much the same thing that's happened to modern day pop music.
I think this is actually a legitimate argument. This explains why movies like Finding Nemo, Despicable Me, and Shrek still hold up. We remember them for the jokes they bring, but since it isn't JUST a comedy, there's more there to go back to and reminisce with nostalgia. But if the movie is just a comedy, it will quickly be forgotten. Reason being: You'll eventually grow out of the jokes that are as dated as the movie is. (A good example is Shark Tale). The over-saturation of these kinds of movies nowadays is because studios know it will make them money anyways. (Again, look at Shark Tale's box office success). None of them try anything new since they aren't willing to take risks, which I believe is a result of their own incompetence with taking risks. This is how Disney/Pixar usually succeeds.
A joke only lasts a few months maximum.
A movie lasts a lifetime.
Terrell Whitehead I feel like some people aren't really grasping his argument, and claiming that something with cartoony animation and jokes instantly make it a cartoon.
"Disney doesn't even bother making cartoony movies..."
Well...Except for that one time in 2005...But we don't talk about that
I’d argue the mid-late 40s package features are pretty close.
And then, Disney did it again in 2012, although Incredibles is actually the one that kick-started the trend, sorta.
STORKS IS ACTUALLY GOOD
KaleLikesWaffles I really liked it too I was simple and creative
He said they could be decent at best to just plain bad
KaleLikesWaffles I'm right by your side for you
Sometimes I find that if the first animated movie was a cartoony movie, then it would fail. Walt Disney strived for realism in every aspect of the animation of Snow White because the critics to the idea of a theatrical animated film believed that nobody could sit through a feature-length cartoon, and the possibility that a feature film with nothing but bright-colored animation would cause eye problems.
Let's be fair: The "Hotel Transylvania" movies were done by Genndy Tartakovsky and anyone familiar with his body of work will know he's really good at "cartoony." In fact, I was disappointed that they just didn't make the whole thing in the 2D style that played over the credits that looked like a throwback to "Dexter."
You talking about “Dexter” from Showtime or “Dexter’s Laboratory” from Cartoon Network?
@@spaceboyctstudios2934 "Dexter's Lab."
@@MeganKoumori Okay…
Really tho, AniMat is overrating Illumination
Illumination is still pretty young since Despicable Me only came out 2010. It's made 6 animated films so far. A bit too young to judge?
*****
Besides the Despicable Me movies, Illumination hasn't much to define itself. I mean, the visual style looks nice but I'm not seeing it's essence yet. Methinks Animat is a little biased for it. But it's interesting how they're taking the animation industry by storm by releasing two films this year. It's gaining popularity despite competing against so many studios.
Pixar was a pioneer in computer animated films, so its reputation soared first on the animation but eventually on the story as well.
Hop and Lorax are NOT even at the rating standards of a cartoony animated film. Despicable Me and its sequel are good ones but I really hate Minions. FYI, Secret Life of Pets is good, but in my opinion Trolls is better. Animat is just not a fan of Trolls and heck he didn't even put Trolls' RT rating on because it is certified fresh which is against his opinions! Yes I agree the fact that he shouldn't overrate Illumination and also he is underrating DreamWorks even though I don't feel like I will like Sing or The Boss Baby near the level of How to Train Your Dragon, Shrek, Kung Fu Panda, Tangled, Frozen and Moana (I don't like Zootopia as I simply do NOT understand why its story is THAT good and I don't feel the amount of heart the others gave me)
Andrew Dz I didn't like Hop or Lorax, but I did enjoy The Secret Life of Pets and I just watched Sing today and I liked it, too
I feel like the Secret Life of Pets is good on its own and Sing is okay, but when compared to Trolls and Moana at its time, it falls short. If Animat doesn't like Trolls, then I feel like Sing is no exception to him
There's one problem Matt as long as the Despicable Me films keep making money we will never see the end of Cartoony films which should die already, and it will get worse when Universal buys off DreamWorks Animation. Think about it, ever since the late 90's DreamWorks started this trend of animated films integrating pop culture refferences and slang and since DreamWorks were making more money than Disney up until the 2010's and Pixar was the Enemy to DreamWorks every single animation studio has been copying DreamWorks and now theyre a shadow of their former self, we can only trust in Disney and Pixar, the only films of any worth from DreamWorks are How to Train your Dragon and Kung Fu Panda.
What about “Captain Underpants”?
And shrek
You said it so beautifully. It's about the quality and not the quantity. The reason why certain studios have the reputation they do is because they have consistently earned the audiences trust and faith regarding the quality of their movies, and is why they have longevity. Kids are not as stupid as people think they are, and even they have taste. People complain about the popularity of Disney and Pixar, but refuse to see why? Have they looked at the other studios? It's no shock. One of my favourite videos of yours Animat.
7:53 Funnily enough, I saw Planes a week before I saw Cloudy 2 in theaters. I may have preferred Cloudy over Planes. Maybe that’s just me.
Four years later and Matt was so wrong about the Disney-Pixar thing, they’re not trend setters they’re trend followers
Animation is a art form that can be told in many ways as being cartoony doesn't make it any different, a reboot based on tom and jerry would mostly be cartoony because of it's world and logic isn't based on ours so it would work out.
What about Storks? I thought that movie was one of the better cartoony movies? I remember you enjoying it when it came out.
Jeremy Adler Same
How do you not have 1M+ subscribers? You're AMAZING!!!!!!!!
How to figure out if it's a movie or not:
Ask your self what the message the movie was trying to send to you
If you can't think of one or it's strange or complicated to figure out, it's not a movie
Example
Zootopia : you can do anything no matter your shape, size, or color
it's a movie
Cloudy with a chance of meat balls: can't even think of what the message is
Inside out: you need to allow your self to be sad/it's ok to be sad
It's a movie
Bee movie: it's ok to fall in love with a bug?
Not a movie
Yes a long cartoon
Book Of Life is great but the studio that made it is trying to improve than Free Birds previously.
RedRobLikzDisney is book of life an animated film while free birds is a cartoony movie?
I do admit I do see some of these movie trailers like Trolls, Storks, Angry Birds, and any other cartoony movie and I'm like, "Uh," but, then towards Disney or Pixar I'm like, "See! See! See! See!" This video here perfectly well explains it.
By the way, the teaser trailer to Storks gave me a chuckle, but that was about it yet I do want to see Boss Baby. :)
When it comes to some animated features, I say it's all about balance. You can have a good mix of comedy and script. Disney is a shining example of this.
Zootopia proved that this year especially given its subject matter
Also Pixar Had An Original Story , Beautiful Animation , And Likeable Character
4:45 6/10 or 7/10 is pretty good score.
And Illumination, creators of Hop, The Lorax and Minions. Inside out levels that.
And A fraction. A one billionth.
And cloudy with a chance of meatballs one and two were successful, with one making double the amount of its budget, worldwide. And two triple the amount of it's budget worldwide. Not bad for a pretty mediocre movie, and a pretty bad movie
I like the stylized CGI used for The Peanuts Movie and The SpongeBob Movie Sponge on the Run. If Phineas and Ferb ever come to the big screen, that's how they should do it. If I did a theaterical film based on a 2D kids show (perhaps my own), I'd wanna do that or at least keep the TV show's voice cast. If people want celebrities in the movie, why not just create new characters for them to voice instead of replacing the original voice cast with them. For Curse of the Were rabbit, DreamWorks wanted to Wallace to be voiced by a celebrity in order for the movie to appeal to American audiences but Aardman hired celebs as new characters and convinced DreamWorks to let Peter Sallis reprise his role as Wallace.
JackHammer87: 0:28 to 0:30 Lol 😂😂😂😂😂
I agree with you on that, even if I'm already working in the animation industry, I would actually be like Disney, Pixar, or even Illumination by focusing on the script.
Remember when some people said Disney and Pixar just use the same style of animation everytime?
Well, personally, I think modern super cartoony films have become EVEN MORE tiresome than some people claim the "Disney style" to be! There! I said it!
I don't think I could've said it better, kudos my man!
Am i the only one who likes storks,The hotel Transylvania films,Cloudy 1&2,Home,Trolls,And other Cartoonish films?
Mr. Wumbo well that's good,everybody can love animated films
slashermaster28 Yeah storks and the secret life of pets are great but I can see why I love the angry birds movie and trolls and I why I'm excited about the boss baby and smurfs the lost village.
NOOOOOOPE. You ain't the only one!
Feesuka Minudaka thank goodness I have someone who like those type of movies with cartoonish animation.
+slashermaster28 I agree Matt listen way too much to those types of people and forces everyone to listen to him he's got the while critic thing so much in his head to the point he won't ever listen to anyone else
In theory, since the emphasis is on the gags and animation, the filmmakers should keep the story and characters simple and easy to follow (reminds me of what you said when reviewing The Thief and the Cobbler - the Recobbled Cut). If these guys wanted to be cartoons and decided to study the craft, they'd notice that Mickey, Minnie, Goofy, Donald, and Pete all have simple desires and the plot revolves around a simple goal (setting up a picnic, moving out of the house, performing a circus act, etc). Is there an example of a "cartoony movie" done correctly?
Yeah, you have a point there AniMat, I'm glad that I'm not the only one who noticed that animated films have become a lot more cartoonish. I miss the animated movies that are serious and gritty. I watched a few clips of Ice Age 5 on UA-cam and the series has gotten over the top cartoony, it's ridiculous. And I watched a clip of Storks; when the main characters were running from a pack of wolves, one of the weirdest things I've ever saw in animated(or cartoon) movies was the wolves making themselves into one huge boat and a submarine, I was like What the heck? Why can't more animated movies be like the Lion King or Disney's version of the Hunchback of Norte Dame?
I'm not a fan of cartoony movies, but I do say they should exist. They can be fun distractions or a way to cheer up during a bad day. I do, however, want to see more realistic cartoons along with them. And I really want to see some that are not primarily comedy. There is a lot that can be done with animation, and I hope people try to utilize that potential soon.
Loo
I agree with you on the point of having around animated movies both cartoony and realistic as well as both comedic and dramatic. But for some reason, Western animation doesn't lean towards drama as often as anime does, except for animated superhero movies
@@isabeld.paredes4923 Possibly because there isn't that much of an audience for dramatic cartoons in the West. Along with so many believing cartoons are kids only. I'll be surprised to see a cartoon movie with a PG-13 rating. I doubt we'll ever get another R rated animated movie any time soon. Sausage Party made sure to ruin that concept, thoroughly.
I like The Penguins of Madagascar!!!
What if there was a Cartoony cgi animated film written, and directed by David and Jerry Zucker, do you think it could be a good or bad film?
What songs are playing in the background just out of curiosity
Um, I think you are forgetting the fact that pure comedies exist in live action too, and while plenty try to tell a good story in the process, others simply have the goal of making you laugh, just like these "cartoony" movies. Its not exactly a new trend, and those kinds of movies aren't automatically bad for trying to just be funny. Not every movie needs to be Disney.
There’s a difference, though. Animation allows for more extreme cartoony elements than these live action ones. And there’s also a strange tolerance for these cartoony movies as opposed to the oft-panned live action examples. (See “Furry Vengeance”, for example.)
Some facts as usual. Making a Live-Acted Cartoon can sometimes be a mixed bag.
An ad for Hotel Transylvania 3 was before this lol
I wish we could have more animated movies like Legend of the Guardians. It looks so realistic and epic~
I get what you're trying to say here but remember that as much as we try to convince ourselves they aren't, a lot of animated movies, especially cartoony ones, are marketed to children. Kids aren't looking for deep introspective stories or complex layered characters. They just want to be entertained, and there's absolutely nothing wrong with that. If a cartoony movie manages to be silly and fun for a kid then it did a fine job regardless of its actual quality because it's meant to be fun for little kids. Not everything has to be timeless and classic.
Guys, how long has it been since Mat did an analysis?
Since Is Rotten Tomatoes a BAD Website?
Alex Klepp, that was how long?
Yep. I gave up watching animated films in theaters, for the most part, religiously years ago for one of these reasons alone, along side with being more focused on more being hip to the kids.
Well I still watch cartoons. Aren't animation and cartoons are like, the same thing?
James Vixen
Yeah. At least animated shows on TV have more verity like The Simpsons, Ben 10: Alien Force, Avatar: The Last Airbender, Codename Kids Next Door, Looney Tunes, Ed Edd n Eddy, Johnny Bravo. ect. At least the cartoons that air on TV have more verity because not every cartoon is a cheep CGI comedy that focuses more on the gags being over the top and hip to the kids. Shows like Avatar The Last Airbender and Ben 10 Alien Force, they're both action show with animation influenced by anime one being super natural and mystic and one being science fiction, Batman The Animated Series has a different art style and animation and has elements of the wacky 1960s Batman TV series and elements of the dark and edgy Tim Burton Movies and Christopher Nolan Batman Trilogy. I watch cartoons. I just don't as many animated movies in theaters as I used to because of how most of them are repetitive while the cartoons on TV have more verity.
Jonny Boy I can see where your coming from.
I honestly prefer cartoony movies over other type of Movie types. Iv'e allways preferd it tbh in cartoons aswell. I know we all have diffrent opinions, but this is one thing i Will Never get the hate for
i think that Sing is going to be a animated comedy
Same
nathan prins but maybe this is going to be illuminations' first attempt at the Pixar looking film.
All that Sing is going to be is shit.
nathan prins musical?
Mgen G. how you know for sure?
When are we gonna get another The Secret of NIMH?
I think Kubo and the Two Strings kinda falls under that category. Extremely dark, barely any humor, very subtle with its messages and a super serious and gritty story. 9 Came pretty close but did suffer from underdeveloped characters and a sort of clumsy story.
slashermaster28 We get some of that with the kung fu panda series, but there's much more humor
I think another question is when are we going to get an AniMat's review of the film?
Sam Feldstein lol yeh
That’s also my question. But part of it wasn’t answered yet.
You should upload more videos like this
11:03 is like hell to dvds.
Animat, your nemesis in the form of a movie is turning into a series, how you gonna react to that!
The REAL question to ask here, folks, is extent of scope. How do you make a premise like this hold up for a feature-length running time, the people behind these films were constantly saying, unless you resort to padding. Not just in terms of cartoons, but in other short works. Think the film The Polar Express against the original picture book - the adaptation would likely have worked out better in the form of an half-hour special. Likewise, trying to compromise a story that could better be told as a feature, for a short span of time, can be very difficult to achieve if you are not prepared to compensate. And this is not exactly new either - for as long as the entertainment industry as we know it has been around, while there are many successes they overshadow a lot of instances where people are not sure how to make something work well, leading to a lot of failures. Trusting one's own ingenuity to stand up to challenges like these becomes all the more a big deal.
Maybe I'm wrong but I feel like even calling stuff like Norm of the North or Ice Age "cartoony" is an insult to cartoons. Even stuff like Loony Tunes shorts had some form of a story, even if it's a simple one.
I feel like The Emperor's New Groove is definitely an animated comedy, but I wouldn't not also call it a cartoon (ha, double negative). There's a story there, but it's not a grand sweeping emotional one like most Disney or Pixar films.
The story in Emperor's New Grovoe most certainly takes a backseat to the comedy, and there's nothing wrong with that, it's even my favorite Disney movie.
The characters are what even makes the classic cartoons work, think Bugs Bunny or Mickey Mouse, so movies like Norm of the North aren't even really cartoony movies so much as... cobbled together messes. Emperor's New Groove however has all the elements of a classic cartoon, from zany slapstick and non sequitirs, to hilarious characters, to blatant anachronisms, with just enough story and emotional depth to justify its feature length.
I got an ad from Dreamworks in this while watching this 😂
Animat, will you review Cloudy With A Chance of Meatballs: The Series when it comes out next year and Hotel Transylvania: The Series also?
Smashingzelda96 you want him to review those? Go to patreon
But I can't exactly donate money.
Smashingzelda96
well either do whatever you can to do so or hope that someone else requests him to review them
supermariosonic 298
why do you ask?
well you know the old saying, "curiosity killed the cat"
The Boss Baby isn`t out by the time this video was out.
13:07-13:16 And you know what the worst part is, there exist some people who are like it. Not just in animated films, but also in animated shows and cartoons.
Yes yes yes yes yes! A new analysis!
If you ask me, I like the cartoony approach. I think it's better than some of the more realistic looking CGI films.
Ditto.
It ages 100000000000x times better, finding nemo, shrek, happy feet and toy story have aged somewhat
OddBall64
I actually have more nostalgia for the gross hair and pore style of the 2000s.
It's kinda snobbish to say that cartoony movies can't have a good script.
hope the new smurfs film is good and not shitty like the live action smurf films!
YOLO? I actually thought that he was saying "Yellow" because that was the color of his skin.
Like the same situation when Spider-Verse and Mitchells and the Machines came out the animation was different and capitalize it in other Studios just like Dreamworks Animation was the first one to do it in Puss in Boots the Last Wish realistic to cartoony to bright 3D colors and 2D visual effects
Kind of weird looking at this from 2021, the cartoony style is still standing strong, Disney is increasingly reviled because of it's business practices, and some companies like Blue Sky are being shut down now that Disney owns Fox.
I still agree that the cartoony style won't be dominant forever, but it will be around forever, since it offers studios the chance at a quick buck.
This might be one of my favorite videos you've done this year. Really enjoy these editorials.
0:36 what is that thing in Reggies eye?
Did you know that The Emperor's New Groove used to have a different concept? It was called The Kingdom of the Sun. It wasn't originally meant to be a comedy. I mean, it had a story, but it was also kind of goofy. The original concept for the movie was a lot darker and it had more songs, but they were all cut from the film. So, sometimes cartoony movies didn't start out that way.
I don't know maybe its because everyone has there own unique art style and not everyone has to be the same ya know!
haven't you heard dreamworks is teaming up with illumination in 2018.
InsideOutWIRLionKing&HTTYD3 Fan2001 End my suffering...
The Boss Baby wasn't even out yet when he made the video and i thought he liked Storks.
He talked about how some people prefer different cartoony movies over others.
We need some Don Bluth Animation movies currently these days.
When will his next movie come around because if anyone is going to compete with Disney and Pixar, it will be Don Bluth and hopefully make something similar to his past works like American Tale, Land Before Time and even Anastasia 1997 animated film.
Hopefully Don Will Comeback . If He Back Than He Will Add In To Destroy This Trend Because Cartoony Movie Are Easily Dated Rather Than Disney , Pixar , Don Bluth Films , Illumination , Laika , Ardman , And Many More Studio Who Don't Make Cartoony Movie .
Trends like that come and go, but animation in general is here to stay.
Does anyone think that there will ever be an animation medium that will take over CG?
Never mind. I see where you're going with this.
This's the exact reason why I don't even bother to see these cartoony movies. They're really only made for kids and making money honestly, not moving or challenging their audience, and I'd only really see ones that are somewhere in-between, like the Despicable Me movies (not counting Minions because they just went full-cartoon with that), and The Lego Movie.
Basically, thank god Disney still exists.
I think outside of those I can think of Book of Life (somewhat, it's still cartoony but has a pretty fun story), the first Ice Age, both the SpongeBob movies, and The Peanuts Movie
Leopold Litchenstein Oh yeah, I did love The Book of Life, and those are some very good examples...except for the first Spongebob move. Loved it as a kid, but rewatching nowadays...it was definitely the beginning of Spongebob's decline. I did love Sponge Out of Water though.
Crono Sapien I don't think it started the decline, because it was followed by what I consider the best season of the series and it mostly aged well aside from the parts where they interact with humans.
There are even movies from people who intend to release their films for a theatrical release, but their quality and/or budget is too low to even meet that standard. Case-in-point: Winx Club: The Mystery of the Abyss. The budget for that movie is about €12 Million and it’s quality is so poor, it could be compared to video game graphics, and it’s trying to make the Winx look more human with their skin or faces, but not only do they still look cheap and ugly, but everything else becomes minimal with the textures to the point that the models don’t look like legit movie characters and, again, look more like video game sprites reminiscent to Gamecube, Wii, Ps2, or Xbox 360. Kiko doesn’t even have fur like the previous Winx films. What’s worse that it’s not even stylized; in fact, it doesn’t know if it wants to be realistic or stylized. Not only that, but the animation also is recycled from Season 5, depending on preexisting assets or footage, or it’s the exact same CG as the show or worse.
9:04 funny mock voice
Whoa, whoa, wait... In what universe is Cloudy With a Chance of Meatballs on the same level as Norm of the North!?
Not the first one. The second one.
7:55-and the emoji movie and arctic dogs
What about Laika and Aardman
Oh Yeah , I Forget About Them
So the studio who will end this trend is
1. Disney
2. Pixar
3. Illumination
4. Laika
5. Ardman
I still wanna see Storks if it hits the 5 dollar bin then I can get it cheaper.
How come there no more cartoon movies anymore?
"Boss Baby" hasn't even come out yet
Pokemon XY & XYZ:
-Down-to-earth, realistic character design
-Compelling story
-Great character development from each and every character (including the rival, Alain)
-a more likeable, mature protagonist
-Knows when it wanted to be serious
Pokemon Sun & Moon :
-Character designs are cartoony
-only one characters get major character development (Lillie)
-the protagonist is as dumb as a rock, or is very childish
-the comedy is emphasise more than the story
I'm not a rabid fan or an Amourshipper. I'm just applying what Animat said to the Pokemon anime.
I guess the Emoji Movie can't animate their way out of how shitty it'll really be.
I wanted to know why most adult animated films are comedy themed?
I think it may have something to do with how the average movie goer sees animation in general. A lot of people associate animation as either kid's stuff or family friendly material. In order to be interesting and garner interest a lot of adult animated movies have a lot of humor. Since they won't be taken too seriously by the general populace anyway. It's sort of a pragmatic thing.
The mentality that cartoons are associated to just being just kids stuff really needs to go down. Look at Futurama and The Simpsons, 2 beloved funny shows aimed more at teenagers and adults with very high success.
Thomasmemoryscentral my friend Trevor believes that animat hates the loud house because it's a cartoony show
It took a while for adult animated TV to mature, and even then it had a lot of foreign influence.