Recon with Tanks? (U.S. Armored Cavalry Explained)
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Sources:
• ATP 3-20.97 "Cavalry Troop" (September 2016)
• ATP 3-20.96 "Cavalry Squadron" (May 2016)
• ATP 3-20.98 "Reconnaissance Platoon" (April 2013)
• FM 3-98 "Reconnaissance and Security Operations" (July 2015)
• MCoE Supplemental Manual 3-90 "Force Structure Reference Data (2015 & 2016)
• "From the Screen Line: Cavalry Scouts in the Army of 2020" www.benning.army.mil/armor/ea...
• "The All-Bradley Scout Platoon at National Training Center Rotation 14-04" www.benning.army.mil/armor/ea...
• "What Do We Mean When We Say ‘Fight For Information’?" www.benning.army.mil/armor/eA...
• "The 120mm Smoothbore in the Recon Fight: How the New Cavalry Squadron Structure is Performing at the Joint Multinational Readiness Center" www.benning.army.mil/armor/ea...
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As a Cavalry Scout in the Active force I like the way you break this down. There are some things that you are missing or are slightly incorrect from a doctrinal stand point but those are minor at best. Keep doing what you do I really like this series.
A request if possible. A video on the Russian Motor Rifle and Tank Brigades. They are almost identical except the main arm of the brigade.
Thank you
Thanks mate! We have a video on Russian Motor Rifles up, although it's focused on the Battalion Tactical Group/Rifle Company level
@@BattleOrder I watched that video. Just thought a more indepth video of the Brigade group itself would be good. I'll rewatch it again to see if I missed anything.
@@011Cronos Thanks for the suggestion!
@Synchro First in the beginning when it was stated that Army ground reconnaissance had degraded. This is partially false. Agreed it was degraded only due to employment. On actuality it was increased by the assignment of Division level reconnaissance assets to the brigade level.
The next issue was the doctrinal employment of the pre-2016 platoon. While the old FM 3-20.98 Broke down the myriad of ways an ABCT cavalry platoon could be organized most if not all operated on the 3 section principle with either Alpha and Bravo or Bravo and Charlie being augmented with platoon leadership. The only place observed where a 4 section organization has been used was in the Combined Arms Battalion Armored Reconnaissance Platoon. Where 19D Scouts operated in direct support to the Tanks and Infantry. This was mainly during screening operations and movement to contact to provide a manuver fire support and command and control asset with the 2 HMMWVs and as both platoon leader and platoon sergeant were MTO&E'd Mk19 automatic grenade launchers as opposed to the M2HB heavy machine guns of the Scout trucks.
The last thing was the actual numbers of discounts in the pre-2016 organization. Each Bradley operated 2 dismounts and the HMMWVs had none. The numbers shown were from the conversion to the 6x36 platoon of 6 M2's and 36 scouts per platoon giving each BFV 6 personnel. 3 crew and 3 dismounts.
The video is very well done and just didn't cover the little things from the operational side. The reason for the switch from the M3 to the M2 wasn't due to needing more space for dismounts is was due to the lack of M3's to support the 9 ABCTs in the active force and the numerous National Guard heavy squadrons during the conversions. This led to a bonus of allowing more dismount space at the cost of Ammunition and extra TOW Missile reducing to 7 from 11 Missile per track.
True true
I still think the late cold war (Abrams/Bradley mix) was the best armored cav layout. McMaster's master class at 29 Easting shows the total lethality of that mix.
73 Easting, not 29.
@@TheePIB you are correct! My mistake!
Tanks with IFVs have always been the best recon 💪
I've always been partial to satellites. You don't need congressional approval to deploy a satellite.
@@darkjill2007 that’s a problem with governmental structure. Establish Military junta, become generalissimo, deploy tanks as you wish,
I was fortunate enough to serve with the Second Armored Cavalry Regiment along the Czechoslovakian Border and in Operation Desert Storm. My years in Lightning Troop, 3rd Squadron / 2nd ACR were the best times of my Army days. This video makes me nostalgic and kind of homesick. Thanks and keep up the good work.
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You pretty much got it. I was a 19k in 1-1 cav's tank company. It would have been interesting if you showed the weapons/ equipment that the dismount scouts carry. From my knowledge it was a mixture of javelins, at4's, 240 with bipod, and the lras thermal sight for dismounts. The tank company was also used as part of the screen line in some missions to widen the line of sight. From 2017 onward, in the field all the Brad's/ tanks were covered in custom camo netting, cut and placed to give better camo/ concealment which also helped to lower the thermal image and make it harder to identify.
For the the light cav, it was 3 LRAS, 3 TOWS/Small Arms for vehicles. Back then they carried AT4's, M240B's and 2 Javelines with Cloo. When I was in, the tanks were never part of the screen line defense since the squadron split the battlefield evenly between the 3 troops. The Tank company was in reserve and the Tanks in the troops were set in a Hide position 1200M back behind the screen set in a hunter/killer team. The reason you would never set the tanks forward or even on the screen line is the risk of them being destroyed. 9 times out of 10, the Screen line defense was conducted in the cover of darkness since the enemy cant see you. When I was in the 10th CAV and 3rd ACR for that matter, all mission that were given were conducted at night (unless you was at NTC, then it would be day as night maneuvers were forbidden). I was on tanks both in the CAV and Armor battalion.
The pre 2004 cavalry troop consisted of 2 six Bradley M3 platoons, and 2 four tank platoons. The M3 Bradley was equipped with twice as much ammunition as the M2. Each Bradley also carried 2 dismounted scouts. The scouts were not used to fight for info the Tanks did that and the Bradleys would fight in a pinch. The cavalry squadron consisted of three Cavalry troops and a tank company. I still think this era was much more capable than any of the later.
This is the Cav setup that I remember.
This is the grouping 1/1 Cav used in Bosnia.
We used 19K as dismounts in my my troop. Some of the 19K were refugees from the marines that did away with the Abrams.
We had a light horse unit, air cav unit... Platoons ran three M3A2s deep, with 5/6 men crews on patorl with a Humvee attached either our black 6 element, CO, or an attachment like Airforce EOD. (Or engineers. Depends on what we were doing that day).
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Thanks mate!
@@BattleOrder Why don't you add on your website a section like "Currently working on"? With that, maybe people who have various sources could send them to you and help your effort (especially in languages that are foreign to yours)
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Being a ww2 reenactor , the unit we portray is the 35th Cavalry reconnaissance Troop, of the 35th infantry division. It’s interesting to see the modern US army equivalent of us. The difference is we have Jeeps instead of Hummers and M8 scout cars instead of IVFs or tanks. We had more dismounted infantry available in a single platoon but each vehicle would remove its weapon upon dismounting and the crew would form weapon teams. In our TO&E we had 6 30. Cal MMGs and 3 60mm mortars.
Six thirty cals. and three sixty mil. mortars? That's serious firepower.
And of course they actually have ammo, and use it lol
@@henrik3056 Not really, most of the jeeps are taken up with radio gear, jerry cans and other kits. The unit was designed to be self-sustainable, and with the little support trucks given to the company troop, you have to carry your stuff in the jeep too. But most soldiers of ww2 only cared about 2 things. Ammo and chocolate.
@@ethanhastings2514 I'm saying that the real soldiers actually have real ammo, and really use it. You guys just have blanks
It is always amazing when Cavalry "Scouts" had 3 tank platoons.
Because sometimes, the best recon comes from kicking down the other guys front down and screaming sound off.
The content of your channel is like sitting in a classroom.
No BS. Just facts.
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Great video. I was a Scout in the 80s and in DS. We had Mixed platoons back then, scouts and tanks. To be honest I hated the reorganized CAV when they added Hummers and got rid of Bradley’s. To soft not enough punch for what the CAV is for. I like that they went back to all Armored vehicles for what the CAV was intend to do. Scouts Out!
My son who is a Armored Cavalry Officer said there is talk of Division Cavalry coming back to replace Brigade Cavalry. We will see if that happens and how it will look and the capabilities.
If you read Tom Clancy's nonfiction book, Armored Cavalry, he mentioned that they were supposed to be two types of Armored Cavalry Regiment: 1. The standard armored cavalry regiment with Abrams and Bradleys just like the type in Desert War that act as the advanced armored unit for an Army Corp. 2. A light cavalry regiment with the AGS and the heavy hummer as the scout.
According to this concept, the heavy version of armored cavalry is supposed to be found in the heavy division, The light version is found in the light and airborne divisions since they are supposed to be air transportable.
Great video! I served as a Reconnaissance Troop Commander and a Headquarters and Headquarters Troop Commander. Some variants that I used at the various echelons:
Cavalry Troop Headquarters - My OPS NCO was ALWAYS co-located with my XO in the M1068. This provided greater flexibility for rest cycles during long duration operations, and improved the quality of reports being generated at the HQ level, since I now had two highly intelligent people in the same location, rather than the OPS NCO sitting in the back of my Bradley drawing on a map board that no one would see. We also had an attached Medical M113. I used my FSO as my wingman so I could quickly coordinate fires. I also had him control any aerial assets (we got AH-64 flights very often) on the technical side of the house. While mobile, I would fight out of my M2A3. While static, I would co-locate myself with the XO to have better situational awareness within the Troop CP. Not mentioned in the video, but we also had 1x Raven UAS. Typically we attached this to 1st Platoon based on our mission set.
Mortar Section - The Section Leader's truck carried a trailer for mortar munition storage. We also gave the Section Leader a driver, for obvious reasons. Having the ability to call for your own organic indirect fire is exceptional, and is a VERY powerful tool on shaping the battlefield's effects,
Scout Platoons - We had already transitioned to the 6x36 concept by the time I took Command in 2018. We traditionally operated in two heavy sections, consisting of the 1, 2, and 5 in A Section, and 4, 3, and 6 in B Section. At full strength we could man either 6x short duration (less than 12 hour) Observation Posts, or 3x Long Duration OPs. The longest security mission that we conducted saw the Troop having 6x Long Duration OPs established for a 96 hour period, with resupply conducting at pre-planned cache sites one major terrain feature behind the forward line of Troops (FLOT). Each Section had 1x Javelin CLU, in addition to a variety of optics, M249s, and M240s. Of note: the LRAS was no longer MTOE at this point, so we didn't have them.
Some final notes - while the M2A3 is the asset that gets all of the attention, it is your dismounted recon teams that keep your formation alive. A successful Recon Troop will use their dismounted elements to pull their M2A3s forward, ambush enemy vehicles with the Javelin, and act as the "Hunter" in the "Hunter-Killer" model to enable your M2A3s to have situational awareness so they can kill enemy vehicles. Underestimating the importance of pushing your dismounts forward of your mounted element will dramatically decrease your chances of survival.
its best not to talk to detailed about exact tactics. Op Sec. General information is common knowledge but detailed tactics should not be talked about in public
@@MrChickennugget360 Nothing I have stated above is outside the realm of what can be readily found in Doctrinal publications approved for unlimited public release. 👍
@@Mirzayev i know- i'm just pointing out that the maker of the video did not want to get to detailed.
Such an epic comment. The last paragraph in particular finally let me connect the dots on how ground-element reconnaissance works. This is not dissimilar to how armor and infantry work in urban environments, with infantry and tanks supporting each other side by side. The main difference is rather than being side by side with infantry and tanks, recon operates with dismount forward since their detectability and IR signature is significantly lower than the Bradleys. I would also imagine Bradleys using their thermals to pick up signature forward of the dismounted units, especially in incremental weather or nighttime. Makes total sense. Thanks for your input!
@@MrChickennugget360 Hunter-Killer teams have been around forever…DivCav did it with tanks.
Nice video!!
"Find the enemy but do not become decisively engaged."
2nd cav: "got it find the enemy, destroy an entire brigade, Do not become decisively engaged"
EU Battlegroups should be covered.
The M113 and variants have already started to be replaced by the AMPV. Fielding for the AMPV started last year in 2020. Though there have been reports of “teething “ problems.
last time i was this early we were still using pentomic divisions
I like that formation
Lol
I remember reading about the "reconnaissance controversy" in the book "Scouts Out!". Light vehicles like armored cars and jeeps are fast and agile for scouting, but too weak in the inevitable firefight they often find against enemy vanguards; the solution was to power-up with tanks, but then they ended up trading their scouting capabilities for fighting capabilities.
I’m infantry at a Cav unit so it nice to know what the scouts actual do
We don’t do anything but complain about having to do things.
At least that’s what everyone thinks because they never see us.
Less trouble that way
11B or Charlie?
@@ironstarofmordian7098 11B
I love being able to catch a channel just at the turn before they go huge bc the quality of these videos were so obvious from the start.
Exceptional as always.
Very good video as always ! Can you make one on the French divisions and the Au Contact plan ? Or on the French brigades, which might be very interesting since 2013’s Serval operation in Mali ?
Please do more of these educational videos on how these different Branches within the Army are made up. Would love a Field Artillery and BSB / FSC video just like this!! Great work!
Armored cavalry began as mechanized cavalry regiments with "combat cars" (so called because by law only the Infantry could operate "tanks") in the early 1930s. The Cavalry found itself either converted into armor regiments under Armored Force or broken up into mechanized cavalry squadrons and groups during WW2. This was due to the resistance of the branch chief to eliminating the horse cavalry. After WW2, the mechanized/armored cavalry regiment made a come-back in the ROAD system. The armored regiment was primarily made up of combined arms platoons, with light tanks, recon tracks and APCs, along with 81mm SP mortars in the same platoon. At one point, the armored cavalry platoon had one M125A1, two M114A1s and three M551s. However, from about 1978, the two armored cavalry regiments in Europe were reorganized with M60A1 MBTs and M113A1 ACAVs. In the early 1980s, this mix became M1s and M3 CFVs. The original missions of the armored cavalry regiment were scouting, screening, economy of effort, flank or rear area security. The armored cavalry regiment in Europe was primarily a screening force, absorbing the attack of the WP's first echelon and determining where the point of maximum effort was, while buying time for further mobilization and deployment of forces. In the DIV86/AoE army, this would have been almost a DIP mission, but the late 1980s ACRs would have extracted a huge price for that first 20 km of FRG territory. The two ACRs would have gutted at least three Soviet tank divisions.
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Great channel and great content. Keep it up!
I've only just found your channel fella....... I like it a lot!! Top job mate!
Love seeing the cross training at 6:07 the 82nd guys using the L85 platform.
Former 19D here (4th ID, 2/8 Inf Ft. Carson). I only knew infantry tactics but a scout is a scout,so...thanks for this breakdown.Very informative.
The return of the Bradleys is certainly a step toward the right direction. That said, I thought the M3A3 variants have more surveillance equipment on board and thus make for a better recon vehicle? Sacrificing the M3A3s for more dismounts make sense in counter insurgency mission, but since the focus has now returned to peer-to-peer conflict, mechanized recon would probably make more sense in an open field mechanized conflict with Russia or China.
And thank you very much for the informative video. I hope you would do a video on Taiwan some day.
Having more dismounts is absolutely better! Dismounts allow you to make contact with the enemy with the smallest possible element, and dramatically increase your chances of survival as a Recon Troop on the modern battlefield. Recon Troops who do not effectively use their dismounted elements are killed (simulated with MILES of course) at the various Combat Training Centers across the Army.
The bradleys never left the CAV units. the M3A3 had the ICV and that was their surveillance. Youre talking about the Division Commander's bradley which had 3 huge monitors in the back of the Bradley to monitor the enitre battlespace from them 3 monitor's. It had an optic in place of the TOW and also had the ICV. Only the Division commander had that vehicle. Everyone else had TOW/ICV for the bradleys.
The only difference between the M2 and M3 is basically the tow missile capacity. You can easily turn an M2 into a M3 and vice versa
Dude i can’t stretch how i love your videos!!!
Best assignment of my 22 year USAF career was when I was stationed in Nürnberg, Germany as part of the Tactical Air Control Party (TACP) unit supporting the 2nd ACR. I was tasked with supporting the 1st Squadron.
Love your videos, keep it up ✌🏻
Wow, i am amazed it took the Army this long to come up with a smaller version of the old ACR for Corps.
In the 1980s and 1990s the armored & mechanized battalions all had 6 x CFV bradleys in the scout platoon. There are relatively fewer Abrams these days in the US Army so it is nice to see an entire company of Abrams added to the cav squadron. The idea of having Humvees as scout vehicles for the heavy brigades was idiotic.
its always been there. nothing has changed.
Others have said it but you should do 80s-2000s Armored Cavalry Regiments the formation was a ridiculously capable combined arms team. Although they change a lot this is how I remember them:
1 Regimental HQ Troop
3x Armored Cavalry Squadrons
- 3 Scout Troop
--HQs PLT with Mortars and a Maint Team
--2 Scout Platoons - 6 M3s each
--2 Tank Platoons - 4 M1 each
- 1 Tank Company - 14 M1s
- 1 Howitzer Battery - 18 M109s
1 Air Cav Squadron
- HQs Troop
- 2 Scout Troops - OH-58s
- Attack Troop - AH-64
- Lift Company
- Aviation Unit Maint Co
- Aviation Intermediate Maint Co
- Support Company
1 Support Squadron
- HQ Troop
- Supply & Trans Troop - with HET section
- Maint Troop - with operational Floats
- Medical Troop
As well as separate numbered Companies
- One Signal
- One MI
- One Chemical
- One ADA
You need to do a video about the german Panzergrenadiers. Great work, love this channel!
Very interesting and enjoyable video. Could you make something similar explaining how combat engineers operate?
Very nice video. Keep it up!
The thing I like best about your videos is the drawing of the vehicles. I would buy a poster with units broken down with those drawings.
One, love your content overall. Great stuff.
Two, as a veteran cav scout from the nineties, it was interesting to see the evolution of armored recon in the US Army over the last twenty some years. I primarily did my time in 1-7 Cav, when it was still divisional cavalry.
97-00 3rd ACR here. then until now, the troop/task org has never changed. what he failed to mention is that the light cav was only task organized to an infantry brigade. the Armored Cav never had light scouts. 3rd HBCT 3rd ID had light scouts (D 10CAV) and they rode wheeled with 3 LRAS's and 3 TOWS. The CAV org always had 2 tank platoons, 2 scout platoons, mortar section and HQ elements to include maintenance and supply. now in a squadron you also had a tank company which would always be the squadron reserve. the only thing that changed was 3rd ACR went Stryker and if im not mistaken, they are going back to tanks.
LOL "First Team!" - "Gary Owen!" Did 20 years in Armor - 17 in DivCav (2/1 Cav, 2AD, 1-10 Cav, 4ID, 1-4 Cav 1ID) the late-80's-to-early 2000's DivCav squadrons had a ton of flexibility with the M3 and M1 mix. You could go heavy, light (ish), or break into Hunter Killers (which was always highly effective, but always discouraged). It's funny seeing what was old is now new again.
The loader at 13:50 gets a huge fist bump!! Way to huck that round brother!!!! Thats how you do it!! Former 19Kilo here giving you major kudos on your speed soldier!!
I was a Signal Officer in two different Armored Cavalry Squadrons--1/2 ACR from July 87 to April 88 (a hat tip to the farmer who pulled out in front of me and cause me to swerve into a ravine, winding up in a coma for six days), and five months to the day of the crash, I signed into 2/3 ACR at FT Bliss. The head injury took far more out of me than I wanted to realize, and I went on terminal leave the day that Saddam Hussein grabbed Kuwait (about two years later). I LOVED my cavalry days.
Would be cool if you could cover the rest of the abct ! Love your videos !
This channel really is gold.
That is one outdamnstanding update and description...good information well presented.
Good video. Didn't explain though the Combat Service Support roles, especially the Combat Engineers in the BCT formation. 12Bs play a huge new role in the ABCT operations.
My favorite quote from one of my battalion cav Sgt’s “how do you know where the battlefield is? All the burning scout vehicles”
Interesting that the airborne soldier pictured at 6:07 is using an SA80
It was a joint exercise in Kenya with the British Paras. He is dragging a British soldier acting as a simulated casualty
@@willywampus3426 what are you on about ... the 80 is a good platform 😂.
@@_ob200 in fact the A2 and 3 are pretty much the better ones
Indeed , they are very accurate bits of kit even using iron sights; amplified when they are using the swanky optics
Finally! High time Brendan got sponsored! Hope there'll be more sponsorships to come to support this gr8 channel!
That is one heck of a major improvement!
Great vid!
I sometimes call the APC “The Shed” cause it looks like my shed.
I was armored scout Platoon Leader in South Korea right after they made this change in MTOE. This video is a great breakdown and is a great explanation of Cav employment but the task org shows a lot of Staff Sergeants. I’d have to check if that’s doctrinal or not but we never had more than three. One leading A Section, one leading B Section, and one leading the dismounts. I was later promoted to become the XO of the Cav Sqdn’s tank company. The tank company is an incredible capability for the SQDN but it is severely underutilized. In fact the Brigade planners would often poach us and make us the brigade reserve force. A tank’s optics can see farther than a Bradley and they have a lower silhouette and less heat signature from the front, making them useful in a long range reconnaissance role as well, they just lack dismounts for stealth and security. Paired with Brads or dismounts the hunter killer teams could cut through localized enemy armor. Using the Cav Sqdn’s tanks as a BDE reserve always seemed like a waste to me. I love mission and history of the cavalry and I would appreciate if you did videos on Cav Sqdn organization in SBCTs and IBCTs as well. Also interesting and unique are the Battalion scout platoons (which in an ABCT still operate on the 3 Bradley 5 Humvee concept). If you ain’t Cav…
I was in a Cav Troop 40 years ago, we had same set up but was more mobile. During an ARTEP outgunned 25th Inf, and a Trip from 1st Cav at Ft Hood. Our Trp won and took the Draper Award.
In the past year all of the M1151s and variants, have been replaced by JLTVs for ABCTs to improve protection, firepower, and maneuverability. Additionally, this and the upgrades to M1A2 SEPs, and the recent upgrades to Bradleys have put a strain on the maintenance & recovery Platoons of the FSCs supporting ABCT BNs but most strongly with regard to the Cav Squadrons due to the highly mobile nature of their mission. I think an episode on BSBs, their organic units, and the FSCs and a look at how the units of an ABCT, IBCT, & SBCT are supported would be interesting.
I remember hearing, “Sabres up, Scouts out!”
It's a pity that light scouts lack a similar organization since in an IBCT they're understrength by comparison. With neither the endurance or the numbers to effectively maintain a wide screen for an entire IBCT.
Post Vietnam and pre-Grenada, Light Infantry Divisions each had a Squadron of Cavalry consisting of 3 Armored Troops consisting of a mix of M60A2s and M113s with an organic mounted Mortar Plt and 1 Air Cav Troop consisting of a Gunship Plt, Aero-Scout Plt, Lift Plt and an Aero-Rifle Plt. Worked pretty well.
19kilo from 1985 to 2005 was in 2nd CAV from 1990 to 1992 remember when they started to put hummers in the scout plt with bradley's thought that was a dumb ideal as both vehicles had completely different performances seems like it took them about 30 years to figure it out!! :P
Great video and breakdown! A look at late Cold War/Desert Shield Armored Cavalry Regiments in the US Army would be awesome 😃
Very informative video
The mission of the Armor company in the cav squadron seems so interesting. Would love to get assigned to a company like that. Leaving for ABOLC next month!
you picked a good time, the covid restrictions are starting to relax and life is way better than the old zoom days last year.
Thats so cool! Im currently an MS3 and hopefully will get branched armored, and would like to know what to expect at ABOLC.
I was in the tank company at 1-1 cav from 16-19. You don't want to be in the tank company in the cav unit. It was a mess and the squadrons leadership regarding us was pure stupidity. The best tank company to be in is the infantry battalion.
@@smokeypuppy417 thanks for the information, and thank you for your service, I will definitely look into getting placed in an infantry unit.
@@smokeypuppy417 Do IBCT's have tanks organically? I thought an IBCT only had a Cav recon squadron
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Very informative, and very well produced.
^5
This is an old set-up of the US Armored forces. The new structure now includes UAVs to do a more effective recon and intel on enemy positions and maneuvers. Also, IFVs are now fitted with new anti-tank guided missiles, apart from canons and heavy machine guns.
Back to the future... Very similar to what we ran in the 1st Cavalry Regiment, 2nd AD, in the mid 80's- 6 Bradleys per platoon.
I was in 3rd ID during the surge 2007. I was the senior's scout wingman, we had humbees, brads and even MRAPs. We were the only scout plt in a battalion of grunts and tankers. Man we were always on mission doing something.
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Great video! Can you do army aviation next?
It's been my experience that the CO MG will almost always be the CO's gunner, due to the CO needing to direct the company while the MG directs that individual track...Almost like a "TC jr." Some of this footage is from MPRC in Camp Shelby MS--I have spent LOTS of time there!! Great video!
I really loved the video and alot of your other content and i was wondering could you do a video on how the structure and organization of a soviet recon battalion set in late in the Soviet-Afghan War like 1987-89
Useful information but perhaps a part two could address a compare and contrast of this data against traditional Armored Cavalry regiments such as the 2nd,3nd, and 11th ACR's.
Would you ever consider doing a video on Australian Defence Force units?
I can’t wait to see the new CAV SQD breakdown in the Penetration Division video
Great video,
Maybe CAB next?
B Trp, 6/9 cav circa 2016. The change in TO&E was impressive just adding a tank company to the mechanized cav increased their deadliness and survivability
GO AIR CAV! Those were the days, 1980 to 1984 75B, HHT, 4th Squadron, 12th U.S. Air Cavalry. Gunships, Tanks and M113, everything one needs.
Perfectly Ironic, a video on Cav Scouts for a Tank Division sponsored by World of Warships! Don't you love it?
Huh, I figured the JLTV's would've replaced the Humvees here. I guess the operational discrepancy between it and the Bradley would've been the same.
While the JLTV is better than the HMMVW, I think they would've encountered the same issues with deficiencies in tactical mobility (at least when compared to tanks), firepower and protection. I know that in one NTC rotation when they formed Stryker-Tank teams, one of the comments they made was the discrepancies in tactical mobility and the limited protection of the Stryker holding the tanks back or leaving them without support
@@BattleOrder Really, even the Strykers? Guess there is a benefit to simplifying the types of vehicles operating together. Shame those are getting wound down too. :(
Strykers are broadly really good trucks. They have decent enough protection and firepower for their role, and are good at massing infantry places. But they can’t really Leeroy Jenkins maneuvers, and require a dismounted infantry overwatch to safely gross open ground
2:45 absolutely correct, that’s why a thing called “Recon by Fire” was invented. Does it look like an enemy? Or are there possible enemy concealed? Light area up and see who bites. Then action on target, find out who or what they were, report to Main.
Cav provide screening till heavy Armor units arrive to provide shock firepower…just like the old days of mounted troops of the frontier…a horseback section scouted while the main body of horseback troopers provided shock effect once contact has been made
Please do one about the standard Singapore infantry division or brigade
You should do one on a RSTA squadron.
113 is over 50 years old. I drove one in 1971.
me too
And our scout vehicles were jeeps with a mounted M-60! This was Second Div Korea, 4/7 Cav, 72 to 73.
Fantastic work!! I love your channel! I really liked your video on the East German army, and on the modern Japanese army’s rapid deployment forces. You should make videos about (here comes my personal wish list…)🤣
South Korean (ROK) armored and recon units
India’s special forces and tank units
Australian marines
China’s paratroopers
Iraqi Golden Division
Israeli infantry and armored units
Ukraine’s special forces
German tank units (3-way comparison: WWII vs. Cold War vs. Present Day?)
Britain’s Special Boat Service (SBS)
Taiwan’s army
Just to name a few…
Good video but not the TO&E for an ACR I remember. Our Squadron had a HQ & HHT (with M113A1 with GSR, Jeeps with Stingers for AA, and an AH-1/Sct helicopter Troop), a BN Maint. Coy, three Cav Troops, a tank company (M6A1(RISE) with 17 tanks (HQ 2 + 3 platoon each of 5 tanks), and a M109 FH battery with 6 M109 (upgraded to M109A1). The Cav Troops had a HQ with 2 jeeps, a M577A1, a M113A1 Maint track and 2.5 ton truck and another jeep plus the mess 2.5 ton truck/kitchen with water trailer. There were three Cav Platoons each 6 M551A1 manned by 11D, 1 M113A1 with a squad of 11B, and one M106A1 4.2" mortar track manned by 11C. The Squadron had 3 Troops each 18 M551A1, 3 M113A1, 3 squads of infantry, 3 M106A1 mortars. Add in 17 M60A1(RISE) tanks and 6 M109 155mm SPH plus 7 AH-1 and 12 scout helicopters plus about 6 UH-1D. Ground GSR and MPADS for long range detection at night, and AA cover. We even had starlight scopes. This was the NEW organization starting in 1972-73. The Squadron was using M114A1E1 (5 per platoon) with 3 M551, the M113A1, and M106A1 in each Troop before than.
Impressive firepower. Of course we were at 50-60% strength in manpower with only enough infantry to form one squad and one mortar crew while the M551 had 2 and 3 man crews. But they would fill that up before the Russians came.
We used jeeps on the border for patrols.
from OCR (in War Thunder and World of Warships) standing for Old Cav Guy.
Scouts Out!
i think i recognize some of the dudes in the osut footage lol. great vid
I'm surprised the didn't replace the HMMWVs with Strykers for the scout Plt...
This is an interesting concept... I was stationed with armored reconnaissance...19 D..we had Abrams and mortors in 113s... We we're armor for a movement brigade.. I was a Field Cook.. so I never really knew what the guys really did... Thanks...
Great video. Was wondering if they had a engineering unit attached to it or not. I assume they just call for them like in the old days should the situation arise.
I know i was taught all this in OSUT, but i ended up being in a light cav unit for my tenure and didnt realize how much of this I’d forgotten 😂
I am surprised and interested in the CO's (?) 113.
Those old girls are incredibly versatile, just keep them safe.
The M113 is the 1SG's vehicle. There is also normally a Medic M113 attached to the Headquarters from the Squadron's Headquarters and Headquarters Troop (HHT).
That's what I drove in 82' 19d recon
Armored Cav excels in conducting reconnaissance by fire. They can conduct probing attacks and gather intel from what fires back, or if they retreat.
The Scout platoons can probe and when the enemy chases them, the Tank platoons make the enemy go, "OH SIT!". lol
Can you please do a video about south korean mechanised/armoured division structure?
This seems like a VAST improvement over the old TO&E.
As a former 19-D Cavalry Scout I served at Fort Riley Kansas HHC 1-34 armored division over 20 years ago, and we used Humvees too. Thanks for your video.
Scouts out
me too 84-85
Notif squad
Nah nah, Notifications Battalion
So what your saying is, the chieftain was right about the weaknesses of the Bradley Humvee combo formations.
Make vid on cavalry vs mechanized infantry
They need to use the new MGS winner in this role the lighter vehicle will be better suited logistically and will allow for more rapid Expeditionary operations.
Can you do a video with on the brigade combat team for UK?
I served with the 1st Recon Squadron 11th Armored Cavalry, I also served with Mike Company 3rd Recon Squadron 11th Armored Cavalry. I was also with 1st Battalion 8th Cavalry , 2nd Brigade, 1st CAV DIVISION . Best job I ever had !
thx
hey just an idea that came up, since you covered the armored recon. Could you make a video about the USMC's LAR Units? Or as an alternative the USMC's MEU, MEB, MEF ? Would be very intersting to the an overview!