SLIP TEST - Jaguar X-Type 3.0 V6 AWD -
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Test on rollers:
Jaguar X-Type 3.0 V6 AWD (2005)
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Never seen a so bad system... Need a comparison to the "old" version with the viscous diff
Fajne auto. Daje naped dokladnie tam
gdzie akurat nie jest potrzebny. Haha
I was surprised to see it perform this badly. My Jaguar x type 2,5 2003 model is my winter car and I have much better traction on snow and ice than my friends audi a4 and a6 and also better traction than many bmw's my brother have had.
You probably have version with viscous center diff. The one here is open.
@@4x4.tests.on.rollers Yeah, I think that's the case
😂😂😂
Jaguar AWD = All Wheel Disaster
What a shame!
New type of transmission: s-awd with s standing for stupid))
A 2wd could have worked better. Abysmal :D
Imagine selling an AWD system that only works as long as a wheel doesn't spin.
Has not very good offroad capabilities, but it has handling benefits in road drive and this is a car. I think this is better than Haldex anyway if you drive your mainly in tarmac.
So it has three open diffs with occasionally working traction control 👌
There are 2 versions of the x-type: this model (2005 - 2009) which has an open center diff with computer controlled traction control (as an option) and the 2001 - 2004 models with viscous center diff. Those models had much better AWD. Clearly this model is a 2005 - 2009 model without the traction control option. I would love to see the 2001 - 2004 model too for comparison against this one.
This one has open center differential but it also has traction control. Maybe in April we will compare it to the version with visco.
Come on.. all cars in that segment since like the late 90's have traction control as standard.
@@4x4.tests.on.rollers That's great to hear! I would love to see the 2 compared against each other. Keep up the good work!
I had a visco version and I think it would have fared way better, it was basically constantly running 4wd to a quite large extend.
@@Marshal2909 Depends on what year. The early viscos were terrible. Since it needs speed difference between the axles to create the friction and "connect".
Can not belive with my eyes what i saw... Is this possible???
Yes. 3X open differentials and poor traction controll system. And: Ta Da! :D
Fat, domesticated kitty, not a jaguar 😆
tomcat
I said it before and I’ll say it again, “ Car Companies need to bring back MECHANICAL LSDs.”
Tak tohle AWD je úplně k ničemu 😃
Myślałem kiedyś nad tym autem, dobrze, że się nie zdecydowałem 🤣
To jest dramat.
[I, own a 2004, awd. X type 3.0 jaguar. British Racing green tan. leather interior]
Customer: is this a good AWD system?
Jaguar employee: Yes, best in the business....
I have such a car in 2003 3.0l awd, her four-wheel drive works very well. make a test for the old version
We'll do that probably in April.
@@4x4.tests.on.rollers did you manage to find a viscous coupler version I cannot wait to see your test!
@@likita779 Unfortunately no... We did test the one which should have visco but during the test it appeared that it was replaced by open diff... ua-cam.com/video/IHWSopGRvDc/v-deo.html
Buying this four-wheel drive car makes no sense at all. why bother to build a four-wheel drive in this way if it doesn't work at all
It works. But not very good.
@@martinsvensson6884 The way the system works I'm more afraid that I will get stuck faster than you will get out of it at all because the system works so strangely.
très bon test. Donc il faut se contenter d'avoir écrit 4x4 sur l'auto.
Toż to gorzej chodzi jak moja Honda CR-V
Jaguar awd. Ain't Wise Decision
This maybe the worse AWD system I have seen so far on this channel. Utterly hopeless in any traction loss situation on either axle.
That is one awd car i will never buy what a pile of junk...
Спасибо за очередной познавательный тест.
И владельцу аатомобиля так же-спасибо!
Odd. I have a 2005 X-type 3.0 V6 and I live in Alberta, Canada. Never had any issues in the snow.
But what exactly is odd?
@@4x4.tests.on.rollers Good question. I really don't know what these tests are for. I assumed they were to show how good the AWD is and if they can't jump off the rollers then the AWD drive is bad. I'm ignorant. My apologies.
@@christalmora5859 It's more complex matter than just jumping off (or not) the rollers 🙂
It actually was a pretty good 4wd system
Przed testem napisałem, że w moim sąsiedztwie jest taki sam piękny X-type i podnosi on prestiż mojej dzielnicy 😉
Po teście na rolkach stwierdzam, że to nadal jest piękny samochód, ale służący niestety do... obniżania prestiżu dzielnicy... 😱
Please test a Lexus IS, GS, or RC with the AWD system. I am curious to see how that system performs. Those cars have a permanent AWD with an electronically controlled planetary center differential (locking by electronically controlled hydromechanical clutch). Torque split is approximately 30/70 front/rear (exact ratio is 31/69) in straight line driving. The transfer case control unit adjusts the locking force applied to the hydromechanical clutch. Depending on the locking force, the torque split can range from the normal ~31/69 up to 50/50. This means that with a zero friction coefficient at either axle (like on rollers), virtually 100% of the engine power should be available at the opposite axle. Therefore, this should be a highly effective system.
I would like to test these cars but it is hard to find them...
No sense to disable ESP because it also disables traction control and this is open diff.
FAIL
really too bad ¡¡
What happens when you take a car that was designed rear wheel drive and add front wheel drive components. The rear wheel drive is favored and will push it through. However, when the rear wheels were on the rollers, the front had no power to pull it off.
But it's FWD based, not rwd. Besides - it actually doesn't matter. What matters is the center differential type and traction control setup.
[nice, looking jaguar]👍
Bu arabadan cacık olmaz
What year?
If I remember correctly, it's a permanent awd transmission with a viscous couplingcontrolled centre differential and 40/60 torque split until 2004. After, the viscous coupling was removed and only a traction control system remains...
It's 2005, 40/60 open center differential.
@@4x4.tests.on.rollers I thought so. Not very efficient, the traction control, I think
@@Softroader Yes, works OK only in diagonal and lateral situations.
@@4x4.tests.on.rollers Yes, but front-rear management is very important for all-wheel drive. It's a bit of a shame... Finally, this post 2004 Jaguar has taken +/- the transmission idea from the Ford Mondeo Mk I 2.0 TC4, one of the 1st (if not the 1st) car with a permanent all wheel drive system without any lsd and with only traction control system in 1994.
I think the earlier ones were permenant. But that does seem to be working... its sending it where its needed
This one is permanent to.
После этого видео, я продал свой ягуар...
Ты его покупал чтобы по скалам карабкаться?
Jak dobrze rozumie pierwszy test na poczatku gdzie kreca sie tylko kola tylne. Jakbym wyjal przednie pol osie ale zostail skrzynie kątową to mialbym 100% na sam tyl?
Nie, wtedy byś nawet nie ruszył, bo dyfer kręcił by tylko wyjściami na przednie półosie.
@@4x4.tests.on.rollers dzięki bardzo za odpowiedź
Interesting results.... Didnt expect it to have such difficulty shuffling power from simply front / back.
Maybe an issue with center diff/coupling?
Was this the manual or automatic transmission?
Also did this model awd use Viscous-couplings or torsen difffs?
It is automatic transmission. No issues, this car has open center differential.
OH MY GOD😫
Co to za napęd , że nic nie daje 🤣🤣🤣🤣
Jak ktoś tu wcześniej napisał: daje napęd dokładnie tam, gdzie nie potrzeba :D
An AWD trying to be RWD wannabe.
[thank, you for you're video]👍
Ten cały napęd to jakaś ściema chyba ... On nie ma żadnego układu nawet elektronicznego np blokowanie hamulcu żeby przekazać napęd ? Widać przynajmniej że trzeba zaciągnąć ręczny żeby przednie koła się kręciły .
Trzy otwarte dyfry. Ma kontrolę trakcji, układ hamuje koła, inaczej samochód nie poradziłby sobie w żadnym z tych testów.
oh god this is the most pathetic awd system in existence. it would actually be better if it was just fwd
Three open differentials. But there are worse...
nice video! i wish you would also expand to off road test as well :)
Very interesting results! It seems like this system favours sending power to the rear, a bit unusual for a FWD based system. I would suspect that the traction control tuning on this leans heavily towards driving feel, rather than all out traction.
Yes, it favours the rear, torque split is 40/60 FR.
Testy na wstecznym to coś świeżego 🙂
Na prośbę właściciela 🙂
and yet, it has no problem in snow!
Please test Toyota Harrier / lexus RX300 XU10 (1st gen).
All up to volunteers 🙂
X-type enjoys 3 types of traction control options: 1. Most prominent Dynamic Stability Control, which allows to drive the car on ice as if it were dry concrete. In this case ABS unit seriously differs from the other 2 options. 2. Traction Control still with a button near the gear stick/selector. 3. ABS only without a button near the gear stick/selector. It remains an open question, which one the subject car is equipped with (if any).
It had traction control button near the gear selctor.
@@4x4.tests.on.rollers The button can be either TC or DSC, which is not the same thing. Still you efforts to test an X-type will be appreciated by X-typers. Thanks.
@@jaguarrroman I'll ask the owner 👍
@@jaguarrroman It was DSC.
@@4x4.tests.on.rollers It must use too clever algorithms to be understood by common people :-)
Witam, od dłuższego czasu nurtuje mnie pewne zagadnienie i może otrzymam na nie odpowiedź. Otóż przy napędzie 4x4 jak w tym jaguarze w momencie gdy nie może złapać trakcji i kręcą się koła powiedzmy tylne zostałby delikatnie wciśnięty hamulec to moment przeniósłby się na przednie koła? Jak coś to mam jaguara x-type 2.5 awd z 2004 roku, widziałem, że ktoś pytał o test. Mogę udostępnić w razie czego do testu. Kwestia tylko jak daleko od siebie mieszkamy :) pozdrawiam
Witam. Testowany egzemplarz ma otwarty centralny mechanizm różnicowy, w związku z czym rozkład momentu zawsze jest stały. Jeśli kręcą się tylne koła, a zostanie wciśnięty hamulec, przy jednoczesnym dociśnięciu gazu - można w ten sposób zwiększyć moment na obu osiach. Starsza wersja ma sprzęgło wiskotyczne w centralnym dyfrze, więc ingerencja hamulców nie jest potrzebna.
Jesteśmy z Rzeszowa 🙂
@@4x4.tests.on.rollers ja z kolei jestem z okolicy Oświęcimia. Jeśli będę planował podróż w tamte zakątki to najwyżej się odezwę. Dzięki za odpowiedź i pozdrawiam
How does this awd work? Does it have any lsd? Obviously the middle diff is open
Obviously it's the computer at work...
All diffs open, center is 40/60. The rest up to traction control.
Well I had an 2005 model with the 3.0 AWD system and it wouldn't have reacted like this. Mine was permanent 4wd with a 60/40 split rear to front. Very sure footed and fun. What's the point in 4wd if the computer says "no"?
If it was 2005 then it was the same as this one.
@@4x4.tests.on.rollers LOL. No chance mine was like this. Sorry, but you clearly have a faulty vehicle there!
@@legpeguk It wasn't faulty. That's how ESP/TC works on this model.
Why would it be designed like that? Its pointless. Again mine was nothing like that. I had an auto.
@@legpeguk That's a question to Jaguar. Early versions had no ESP/TC but they had viscous center differential. Later versions got ESP/TC but the center differential was open so all work is up to traction control system which is not effective enough.
Could you please do the bmw 3 G20 xdrive
I will if I find it.
Is it the latest 3 series xdrive thanks
Это полное фиаско((
What about Jaguar FPace???
Still looking for one.
That's a scam, selling it as AWD 😲🤦🏼♂️
Well it is *technically* putting power to both axles. It's just useless when you actually need it.
Huh?!?! Its a miracle this thing even moves
It did what it was designed to do. Send power to 1 wheel for burnouts. Its not All Wheel Drive. It's All wheel Dave. And Dave love burnouts
Ford Mondeo
❓️🤔
これは
JAGUAR X-type ＝ Ford mondeo MK.1 4x4 と 同じ gearbox ですか❓️🤔
No
@@MrAdamovichvv 様
ありがとうございます👌