Hey Elliot, I need help. I just opened my Original Nintendo DS, and it isn't opening. When I press the power button, it makes the casual "tch!" noise, but the screen doesn't open, neither the power light. The only light that does light up is the charging light when I plug it in, it might be out of power from all that I know, but you know more about this subject then I do, so please help me if you can!
Rewind 30 years ago this was the bees knees, shame yours is not working right! It is an Eprom so can be flashed and fixed with new hardware, but it will be in my collection of oddities that made life fun! By the way it probably came from Hong Kong or China exported out many places!
I am said ‘Long Jon’ and can only apologise for providing such a dodgy cart for the video. It was actually bought in Gran Canaria a very long time ago ;)
Was it always so unreliable or did it just age really poorly? I mean obviously it appears cheaply made but I just want to know if it ever worked "well"
EDIT: *Petition to get Elliot to make this a thing* He has done it. Now put an sp's folding screen on top of a normal advance. I dare you. I know you can do it.
I had a multicart just like this growing up. It was about twice the size of a normal cartridge. The Popeye game on it, I just played the crap out of it!
Yeah, still have it! Glad I never got rid of it. Sadly it only works on the original GameBoy, which I don't really whip out to play as easily as the other GameBoy devices I have.
@@TheRetroFuture I have the same cart with an actual button on it and when you press it it does reset the console but the weird thing is that it only works on my gameboy DMG and Pocket not on my GBC or SP
windowed eproms can only be erased by having the right UV wavelength, and a lot of it. under your room lights for an hour won't do anything. In direct sunlight for a day, probably will. ;)
The -EEPROM- [EPROM] window wasn't exposed in the cartridge. Also, it takes a lot of deliberate environmental exposure to flip even a single bit, since it requires a certain wavelength of UV-C to wipe it effectively.
Intellectually, I know you could leave that open for days or months with no problem. But, emotionally, I wouldn't feel comfortable until there was something over it.
@@AndyLundell I'm the same way and have argued against collectors who insist on leaving it open for that same reason. :) I was just saying he didn't have to be so concerned about it being previously unstickered, since it was enclosed/covered until that moment.
Minor nit: it’s an EPROM, with a single “E”; the two Es are the “Electronically Erasable” PROM and this one is just…erasable. Your larger point, that it would take more than brief exposure to room light to erase it, is correct.
@@PaulFisher *looks to the EPROM eraser on my left* LOL! It bugs me when I see those mixed up too, and here I am doing it! Uh, yeah: I blame auto-correct. :D It seems my phone has seen me type "EEPROM" enough that it added it to the library and substitutes that for EPROM (almost did it again just now). ...there was a moment when I thought the internal button contact was for putting the cart into programming mode but I quickly realized they would never have made it with DIPs if they made it a proper flash cart. EPROMs were obviously pre-programmed.
I'd imagine it was big like that due to it being cheaper and easy to use large chips, which I think would also use quite a bit more power. I'd also imagine they removed the reset button to save costs.
Or weeks (or months, depending on the brand) in direct sunlight. I left an EPROM on top of my UV eraser for 3 years, with the die exposed, and when I packed up my lab, it still read on my reader.
4 SCREEN DS LITE AND ALL THE SCREENS ALL FOLD INTO THE SAME FORMAT BUT THICKER so basically top one folds down, bottom one folds up and the whole things folds in half from the back this would be amazing 😂
A lot of these carts have repeated games, but back in the 90's i had this one where all the repeated games were modified with cheats built into them. For example some of them had infinite lives or infinite energy bars
That you have that one with a box is really cool. Multi Game Carts from the '90 ow men... i had some of them back at the day. Even one with the little rubber reset button 🤣
The reason for the size of this cart of course is that it's using off the shelf static RAM and EEPROM chips. For commercial games, Nintendo manufactured custom sized mask roms. In the early 90s when this would have been made, bootlegs would have had no choice but to increase the case of the cartridge. Prototype GameBoy games too, would have looked much like this.
8:02 "And that's due to poor quality chips, low-quality PCB's, and bad traces, dodgy soldering, and cheap components in general" No way that's the case here, the box promised us "EXTREMELY HIGH QUALITY". You telling us the box is full of lies? :| 😂
What you need is the Gameboy Color Adapter on the Retroad S Plus from Ali-Express. Just use a green dot and not a major credit card or anything. It's HDMI and 7" and in stereo I believe. Play some Yoda Stories on the big screen with a Hori Super Gameboy controller or you can hook up your Super Gameboy 2 or 1 and use 2 controllers for some super gameboy fighting fun. Most fighting games were programmed to use the SNES's two controllers when in use. Just some random information. I put them all in a fighting file on my Everdrive. Have fun. P.S. It also runs SEGA CD from the Mega Everdrive Pro with the MD adapter without the movie audio and some Master System like Alex Kidd Shinobi World. I have been playing Popful Mail. P.S.S. It doesn't run N8 ☹. Love your gameboy collection. I have a hyper boy with a modded Dmg-01 with a gba sp inside that plays Gameboy and Gameboy Color but it only plays my original retro towers ed gb. It's Awesome. Keep up the great stuff. Did I mention I had a consolized GBA I play with the Nintendo Online controller and a 8 bitdo dongle with a firmware update.
It's probably long like that because those UV-EPROMs were way cheaper than a big capacity small package equivalent ROM chip that could fit all the *1200* games on it (yea I watched the video I know it's not 1200)
save your self the hassle, get a EZ Flash Junior off ebay for 40$, an 8GB SD card. Then download the NO INTRO ROMSET from archive.org and you can get every single game boy game ever on 1 cart.
This thing is freaky! The Toshiba chip is an oldschool EPROM. Your LED lights don't have enough UV output to wipe it, but if you're going to keep opening the thing up then best to cover the window with electrical tape. Looks like those chips are rated for 12.5V too. I wonder what battery life is like with that cart. I also wonder what kind of load that cart is drawing from the Game Boy if it's actually running them at their rated voltage. It can't be healthy for the Game Boy lol
that stuff is hard to erase really. even with the right uv light it takes minutes exposed to it for it to do it. even then you need to do it more then a few times sometimes. don't worry about that kind of stuff.
I suspect it wasn't working in your modded Game Boys because the weirdo huge cartridge is trying to draw more power from the game boy than a regular cart. On a normal game boy it'd probably work, which is why the SP worked, but on your modded units that are already consuming more power, they couldn't provide the power the multicart required. Amazing what we have now with MicroSD carts.
Hey Elliott 👋. I’ve been watching your videos for a long time and even watch them to help me fix my gameboy. I have a suggestion for another video. How about you try to install louder speakers into the gameboy. Not as a serious project. Just a funny craft to do! Thanks for entertaining the Community!
Don't worry about EPROMs. It can be erased by strong UV light for minutes. Actually you can use a tape when you find an EPROM again, just put a tape on the top of the chip.
If you do do the Mega Everdrive Pro use CD mage to combine all your files to one bin for each game for better run times and audio issues like for Sonic. I am not saying this Retroad S Plus is perfect but it's very stunning and has impressed me immensely. Popful Mail was set up with words as well so it's still playable.
The infuriating thing about these cheap cards is that they didn't even try to make an everdrive. And it would have been probably an equal effort, given they just dropped the roms and made a simple menu. Instead of repeating they could have put all the roms instead, they would have sold much more.
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I'm surprised that worked at all with the EPROM window exposed. Have to wonder how long it's been like that for?
On the whole, you don't need to worry about exposing those chips to lights. They're cleared with UV lights, so you wouldn't want to leave them in the sun...but other than that :)
I suppose It's not a cartridge fault, I think is because the IPS mod getting too much voltage and the console can't juice that massive chipset inside the cartridge, like the ezflash power issues
I've been away for a while. So I have a 82 in 1 that looks almost identical. I can only get it to work on a DMG01. Also I have the reset button. Thais was way cool to see
i bought something like that in thailand. i guess 60 in 1. 8 different games i think were in. the rest was the repeated under differnt names, but the cartridge always had worked perfectly!
1200 games in one!! Amazing!! Soooo... a cartridge with 10 games and lots and lots of repeats with different names :) Too bad it doesn't come with a magnifying glass for the gamelist pamphlet.
Clearly there's no spelling mistakes because it's _extremely high quality._ This is a work of artisanal beauty, not like those common, mass produced "official Nintendo" cartridges, otherwise known as swill for the commoners. 🎩
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All these chips on the ccardridge probably cost them more than just a mico sd card with like 50MB of storage.
GBC with IPS screen GIVEAWAY is almost over!! Only a few days left to enter - instagram.com/p/CCGfMSInMFk/
First in here
I do not do instagram or the twits. Maybe another contest I can actually enter in the future?
Eyy im excited
Hey Elliot, I need help. I just opened my Original Nintendo DS, and it isn't opening. When I press the power button, it makes the casual "tch!" noise, but the screen doesn't open, neither the power light. The only light that does light up is the charging light when I plug it in, it might be out of power from all that I know, but you know more about this subject then I do, so please help me if you can!
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You should give long John the game boy. Then long John could play his long game on his long game boy. *perfection*
all day long
He love you long time.
@@daedremes He lobe yoy long tim
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What about his long couch
Rewind 30 years ago this was the bees knees, shame yours is not working right!
It is an Eprom so can be flashed and fixed with new hardware, but it will be in my collection of oddities that made life fun!
By the way it probably came from Hong Kong or China exported out many places!
I see long furby has invaded your home
i missed you i’ve seen on this days so much of your videos
I finally got a gameboy now
"Gintendo Bame Noy"
More like Thintendo Long Boi amirite
Videos that are 10 minutes long with 4 minutes worth of content
I am said ‘Long Jon’ and can only apologise for providing such a dodgy cart for the video. It was actually bought in Gran Canaria a very long time ago ;)
Thanks again Long Jon
Legend Long John
Was it always so unreliable or did it just age really poorly? I mean obviously it appears cheaply made but I just want to know if it ever worked "well"
I got something similar on a family holiday to Lanzarote as a kid. Never thought of the Canary islands as a hotbed of dodgy multi carts!
Used to love bringing home a "Game USA Color Advance" cartridge whenever me & the family went to Spain, thanks for the nostalgia.
It's okay LongBoy doesn't exist, he can't hurt you
Hudson The Epic Gamer r/whoosh
LongBoy:
haha reddit heanu reeves wholesome 100 chungus woosh.
There is something called a wideboy
Hudson The Epic Gamer you must be a fun person
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This is too
EDIT: *Petition to get Elliot to make this a thing*
He has done it.
Now put an sp's folding screen on top of a normal advance.
I dare you. I know you can do it.
DO IT
Not only a dual screen gameboy advanced, a mashup between the regular and the SP.
GENIUS.
Yaaas
Backlit top one, reflective bottom one, best of both worlds
@@Mackinz92 but it's also a ds
PLEASE put a sticker on it that reads "Nintendo Longboi"
Lintendo Bongnoi
Longfriendo Collboy
Odnetnin Iobgnol
@Nero Metal nice
SO MUCH YESS
I had a multicart just like this growing up. It was about twice the size of a normal cartridge.
The Popeye game on it, I just played the crap out of it!
Good memories! Do you still have it?
Yeah, still have it! Glad I never got rid of it.
Sadly it only works on the original GameBoy, which I don't really whip out to play as easily as the other GameBoy devices I have.
TheMrminimario SEEEEEEEND IT TO HIIIIIIIIIM, I want to seeeee 😂
@@TheRetroFuture Yea I have the same one I think, it even has the reset button working instead of it being covered up.
@@TheRetroFuture I have the same cart with an actual button on it and when you press it it does reset the console but the weird thing is that it only works on my gameboy DMG and Pocket not on my GBC or SP
7:54 was the best timing I've ever seen in a video.
windowed eproms can only be erased by having the right UV wavelength, and a lot of it. under your room lights for an hour won't do anything. In direct sunlight for a day, probably will. ;)
Can even take weeks in the sun.
What's Long John's favorite Pokémon game, i bet it's..... silver.....
Right, I'll let myself out!
Please do
Fun fact: if the eeprom wouldn’t be wiped by being in the light, it needs to be under a specific frequency of uv light with a powerful enough light.
Make it long, left handed and has two screens
Thank you to my friend, who we call Long John, for send-- *laughter* actually, no! I have *NOT* thought that through!
- Elliot Coll; 2020
Oops
A quote for the history books
The one I had as a kid had a rubber reset button when I first saw the cartridge I was thinking where is the button
That must be a gameadult cartridge for being so long
i get it like when you get a erection lol
Gameman
Ayyyyyy new on air sign!
Yay!
Yay!
@@TheRetroFuture i like the green on air version
7:46 - 7:55
that timing was perfect lol
The -EEPROM- [EPROM] window wasn't exposed in the cartridge. Also, it takes a lot of deliberate environmental exposure to flip even a single bit, since it requires a certain wavelength of UV-C to wipe it effectively.
Intellectually, I know you could leave that open for days or months with no problem.
But, emotionally, I wouldn't feel comfortable until there was something over it.
@@AndyLundell I'm the same way and have argued against collectors who insist on leaving it open for that same reason. :) I was just saying he didn't have to be so concerned about it being previously unstickered, since it was enclosed/covered until that moment.
Minor nit: it’s an EPROM, with a single “E”; the two Es are the “Electronically Erasable” PROM and this one is just…erasable.
Your larger point, that it would take more than brief exposure to room light to erase it, is correct.
…of course I still flinched when the window appeared!
@@PaulFisher *looks to the EPROM eraser on my left* LOL! It bugs me when I see those mixed up too, and here I am doing it! Uh, yeah: I blame auto-correct. :D It seems my phone has seen me type "EEPROM" enough that it added it to the library and substitutes that for EPROM (almost did it again just now).
...there was a moment when I thought the internal button contact was for putting the cart into programming mode but I quickly realized they would never have made it with DIPs if they made it a proper flash cart. EPROMs were obviously pre-programmed.
I'd imagine it was big like that due to it being cheaper and easy to use large chips, which I think would also use quite a bit more power. I'd also imagine they removed the reset button to save costs.
They likely needed a lot of eeproms just to fit as many games as they did.
2:32 "It's just really heavy..but that's probably because it's big." - She
You wish boi
The quality was so extrenely high that it overflowed into low quality. whoops
"Tetris Kitty F1 Racer"
I would love to try this game!
The data only gets wiped when it's exposed to UV light
Or weeks (or months, depending on the brand) in direct sunlight.
I left an EPROM on top of my UV eraser for 3 years, with the die exposed, and when I packed up my lab, it still read on my reader.
i think only certain types of uv are effective when it comes to erasing it too
@@duality4y I think UVC.
"Please call me long Johnson, long John was my father"
That chunky long cartridge is a thing of beauty. As a collector of bootleg games I'd love to own one of those myself!
Oh man, I've been longing for a video like this! Just wish it was longer, felt a little short for such a long topic.
"I was expecting it to be a bit longer-" THATS WHAT SHE SAID!!
4 SCREEN DS LITE AND ALL THE SCREENS ALL FOLD INTO THE SAME FORMAT BUT THICKER so basically top one folds down, bottom one folds up and the whole things folds in half from the back this would be amazing 😂
I got a 32 in 1 cartridge which contains 14 individual games.. plays every game fine without problems.
I once owed a Japanese cartridge for Gameboy with around 100 games, at around age 12, took it to a friends house and it magically disapeared
Cool
A lot of these carts have repeated games, but back in the 90's i had this one where all the repeated games were modified with cheats built into them. For example some of them had infinite lives or infinite energy bars
2:20 “some Asian country”, lol just say China.
Might not be chinese tho
eXtREEmlEY HI quALTIiEe
... Extremely 'HIGH QUALITY' Trash😂😂
GAMER DOGO loves it how much;)€£$¥ gimme
Did you give away the pewdiepie diamond play button to keemstar?
You should put the long gameboy game into a gameboy game genie then put it into the long gameboy
You should put a genie and then Nintendo test cartridge in the long game boy
That you have that one with a box is really cool.
Multi Game Carts from the '90 ow men... i had some of them back at the day.
Even one with the little rubber reset button 🤣
The reason for the size of this cart of course is that it's using off the shelf static RAM and EEPROM chips. For commercial games, Nintendo manufactured custom sized mask roms. In the early 90s when this would have been made, bootlegs would have had no choice but to increase the case of the cartridge.
Prototype GameBoy games too, would have looked much like this.
8:02 "And that's due to poor quality chips, low-quality PCB's, and bad traces, dodgy soldering, and cheap components in general"
No way that's the case here, the box promised us "EXTREMELY HIGH QUALITY". You telling us the box is full of lies? :| 😂
Love the content Elliot! You could go for the Nintendo tower of power to compete with Sega’s. Maybe just add a game shark to the mix. Cheers dude!
Its probably a multi region *Switch*
Game boy test cartridge with long gameboy
Chinese love fighter games.
He opens the cartridge whaaaaa!!!
next video: I made a john long for no reason
"It's been a long time since I made a video... about a week."
I didn't notice. Carry on though, your content just gets better
Put the long game card in a game genie
Love these retro gameboy videos keep it up man :D
If it does not have "The Cheetahmen" then NO DEAL.
What about a thicc game boy...
Some more street fighter characters: hello kitty,
"Thanks for my big friend John"
did you meant a LONG friend John?
Please add a game genie and a nuby speaker to your longboy. Back in the dark ages that was the only way we had to longboy.
Elliot you've done it again. Cheers! PS: More Tom Nook making fun of your jokes please.
So Looooooooooong John made the looooooooooong GB cartridges
What you need is the Gameboy Color Adapter on the Retroad S Plus from Ali-Express. Just use a green dot and not a major credit card or anything. It's HDMI and 7" and in stereo I believe. Play some Yoda Stories on the big screen with a Hori Super Gameboy controller or you can hook up your Super Gameboy 2 or 1 and use 2 controllers for some super gameboy fighting fun. Most fighting games were programmed to use the SNES's two controllers when in use. Just some random information. I put them all in a fighting file on my Everdrive. Have fun. P.S. It also runs SEGA CD from the Mega Everdrive Pro with the MD adapter without the movie audio and some Master System like Alex Kidd Shinobi World. I have been playing Popful Mail.
P.S.S. It doesn't run N8 ☹. Love your gameboy collection. I have a hyper boy with a modded Dmg-01 with a gba sp inside that plays Gameboy and Gameboy Color but it only plays my original retro towers ed gb. It's Awesome. Keep up the great stuff. Did I mention I had a consolized GBA I play with the Nintendo Online controller and a 8 bitdo dongle with a firmware update.
You should've put this cart in the double screen SP, as GB carts stick out much on GBA
It's probably long like that because those UV-EPROMs were way cheaper than a big capacity small package equivalent ROM chip that could fit all the *1200* games on it
(yea I watched the video I know it's not 1200)
save your self the hassle, get a EZ Flash Junior off ebay for 40$, an 8GB SD card. Then download the NO INTRO ROMSET from archive.org and you can get every single game boy game ever on 1 cart.
Probably been said a couple times already. But those UV erasable chips require very bright UV light... like... damaging to look at kinda bright.
This thing is freaky! The Toshiba chip is an oldschool EPROM. Your LED lights don't have enough UV output to wipe it, but if you're going to keep opening the thing up then best to cover the window with electrical tape.
Looks like those chips are rated for 12.5V too. I wonder what battery life is like with that cart. I also wonder what kind of load that cart is drawing from the Game Boy if it's actually running them at their rated voltage. It can't be healthy for the Game Boy lol
that stuff is hard to erase really. even with the right uv light it takes minutes exposed to it for it to do it. even then you need to do it more then a few times sometimes. don't worry about that kind of stuff.
Wiping EEPROMs with UV takes time. You're fine. Id've covered it with tape right away though to be safe.
I suspect it wasn't working in your modded Game Boys because the weirdo huge cartridge is trying to draw more power from the game boy than a regular cart. On a normal game boy it'd probably work, which is why the SP worked, but on your modded units that are already consuming more power, they couldn't provide the power the multicart required.
Amazing what we have now with MicroSD carts.
Hey Elliott 👋. I’ve been watching your videos for a long time and even watch them to help me fix my gameboy. I have a suggestion for another video. How about you try to install louder speakers into the gameboy. Not as a serious project. Just a funny craft to do! Thanks for entertaining the Community!
Don't worry about EPROMs. It can be erased by strong UV light for minutes. Actually you can use a tape when you find an EPROM again, just put a tape on the top of the chip.
Lol, EEPROMS dont erase after being exposed to 5 seconds of being exposed to indirect uv light...
If you do do the Mega Everdrive Pro use CD mage to combine all your files to one bin for each game for better run times and audio issues like for Sonic. I am not saying this Retroad S Plus is perfect but it's very stunning and has impressed me immensely. Popful Mail was set up with words as well so it's still playable.
That exposed EPROM chip is scary. One blast of UV and all of that precious functionality is wiped D:
6:45 Might just be the original Gameboy power regulators being a bit stressed by all dose EEPROM chips.
The infuriating thing about these cheap cards is that they didn't even try to make an everdrive. And it would have been probably an equal effort, given they just dropped the roms and made a simple menu. Instead of repeating they could have put all the roms instead, they would have sold much more.
I'm surprised that worked at all with the EPROM window exposed. Have to wonder how long it's been like that for?
On the whole, you don't need to worry about exposing those chips to lights. They're cleared with UV lights, so you wouldn't want to leave them in the sun...but other than that :)
LONG JOHN😂😂😂😂🤛🏻
I suppose It's not a cartridge fault, I think is because the IPS mod getting too much voltage and the console can't juice that massive chipset inside the cartridge, like the ezflash power issues
There were/are catriges, way back in the 90s, where that reset button were available for "in 1" games. Maybe they ddint put it in to lower costs.
If I remember correctly, I saw multicarts with a small button to switch games, maybe they recycled the PCB...
I've been away for a while. So I have a 82 in 1 that looks almost identical. I can only get it to work on a DMG01. Also I have the reset button. Thais was way cool to see
Nah, you need quite strong UV to wipe it, you're fine. But for safety, cover the little window with a sticker. :)
I mean you can press A+B+Start+Select to reset any gameboy game so they might've figured the button was redundant?
Why did it take you so long to post a video where you play Long Johns long cartridge on your long gameboy? Seriously, why did it take so long?!
> extremely rare cartridge
> blows in it
> recognizes the EPROM window
> continues working with the window uncovered
i bought something like that in thailand. i guess 60 in 1. 8 different games i think were in. the rest was the repeated under differnt names, but the cartridge always had worked perfectly!
There are some fake Game Cartridges with a involved Reset Button.
1200 games in one!! Amazing!! Soooo... a cartridge with 10 games and lots and lots of repeats with different names :) Too bad it doesn't come with a magnifying glass for the gamelist pamphlet.
The reset button is the best. Long John approoves. No, not his good friend. I'm just a random guy from the internet who's name is John.
Clearly there's no spelling mistakes because it's _extremely high quality._ This is a work of artisanal beauty, not like those common, mass produced "official Nintendo" cartridges, otherwise known as swill for the commoners. 🎩
All these chips on the ccardridge probably cost them more than just a mico sd card with like 50MB of storage.
after seeing your gba sp, now i miss mine.. that thing was great being backlit and all.. ahhh bring back memories ❤️
Your lucky the button didn't wipe the cartridge in case the feds caught the distributor. Nice vid!