Another Incredible Goblin Justin! Congrats on the New RAW Nitro, she's a Beauty my friend. I hope all is well with you and stay safe and stay healthy. I'm just getting through my 2nd bout of Covid in the past 10 weeks. Now that the nice weather is finally here in Toronto, it really sucks. lol. Great Flying, smooth and perfect as always. Way to go Justin and take care my friend!
@@CoeShow619 I've been doing the same for a long time. I take my dog out once a day, I always wear a mask as I live in an apartment now. Unfortunately, others in the building have no common sense or just don't care about getting vaccinated. I've had 2 Vaccinations and a booster. If I fly, it's on the Sim. Finally beautiful warm weather in Toronto but I'm staying in until I'm 110% healthy. Flying can wait for now. Take care Justin and I hope that your painting project went well! 😊👍
I use ikon2 flybarless. I connect Hobbywing rpm sensor to the rpm port. I have a single wire from the fan P port to pin 5 on the ikon2. Then all you do is pick Hobbywing/ Align telemetry in drop down box for Governor in ikon set up. My radio has telemetry enabled. I use ESC box for telemetry. I fill in the gear ratio, poles etc. Then you get the screen read out
I’m sorry. I just woke up. I use an Xguard rpm sensor. Plug it into the rpm sensor port. You can see if it is working on the governor wizard page for ikon2. At the bottom it will show magnet detected, and governor engaged.
I’m sure you can or I can, but the difference is the hours of PID tuning it would take with a 6250 to get it to fly like an ikon2 does in 15 minutes. I just don’t have that kind of patience. And I’m not going to experiment with a $3500 helicopter. The ikon2 has proven its worth to me and I’m sticking to it.
With a R/C helicopter yes, electric has more power and torque. It’s immediate response. This is a nitro helicopter which is a huge difference from gasoline. Nitromethane and methanol is burned with oil creating smoke. I have to tune this engine to climate and altitude. I have to be easy and not jerky on the throttle. Plus there is maintenance involved with a piston ring and bearings.
@@CoeShow619 I know it's a nitro heli. I'm just messing with you. But for the record it IS still a fossil fuel. But gas guzzler is more fun to say anyway.
My needle settings have nothing to do with your settings. Turn off your governor, set a linear throttle in normal mode. 1st thing calibrate the throttle linkage so you have 50% throttle at center stick. Then adjust the endpoints so you have fully closed and fully open throttle. Now hover the heli at 50% throttle with NO Governor. Give it full throttle for about 2 seconds straight up, it should have smoke but sound happy. Then stop at top. Should see a billow of smoke. Open the medium needle if it coughs. Close it if it chokes. The morning in this video was warm. I had to lean the high needle about 4 clicks inward. It will vary day to day and depending on rpm and the pipe used. I was only at 1980 rpm in stunt 2. I just turned it up to 2100rpm so it will clear out a bit. I may need to open the needle again due to having a higher headspeed for my next flights
Hi Coeshow. Im using the 6250 on my G4.1 nitro 800size. Got this strange tail wag on maiden. Adjusting the gyro gain in radio did not help. I was told to lower the P in tail gyro in forward programming. Havent tested it after the change. Do you have any advice?? Im running the o.s 105 on both my Raptors.
Yeah, I know. The tail adjustment is like an alien cousin with the 6250. My main concern would be if your governor is set up correctly. If your headspeed is fluctuating, so will the tail speed. They both need to be constant. If you overrotate the head at all, the tail will shake due to the gains being too high. My issue with the 6250 is there is no baseline set ups for helicopter sizes. You need to adjust the gains as if you were starting from scratch. It is based on a race drone tuning technique. Start with P low at like 30 and put I at 10 and D at 10. Now raise the P until you get a fast shake. Then back the P down till the fast shake goes away. Now raise the I until the heli feels locked in. If you go too high, you will get a slow wag. Now raise the D. Only raise it just high enough to make it snappy. If you go too far, it will get lethargic. First things first would be to make sure your tail rotor has about 2 degrees of right tail pitch in it. You can adjust the tail rotor push rod while in the tail rotor subtrim set up menu in forward programming. I do not use the subtrim. I just leave it at 0. The 6250 is a Pandora’s box of adjustment. You need to spend about 3 hours tuning it. Get to it.
@@CoeShow619 yeah thank you. It is a slow wag. And the P is at stock setting at 85. I will set it for 30 amd work my way up. Thank you for the replay. 😊
@@CoeShow619 Yeah i forgot. I do not use gov at the moment. Just V curves. Never used gov on any of my helis. Not that into hard 3D. I do soft piroflips and rainbows just enjoying these beast.
did you use the rubber soft mount on the gyro tray? or the brass hard mounts....i have nearly the same setup and mine has a violent wobble at low head speed until i click into idle up
Mine has the wobble at low headspeed too. It’s the head dampeners. This heli is only made for extreme flying. Any softer head dampener could cause a boom strike. The head block is very low for a tight cg.
@@josephrichichi6364 That is great news. I’ve been smokin out the runway lately too. Make sure she doesn’t get pistol hot and you’ll be ripping for days. Thanks for watching my footage. Keep flying.
I wish I could have the time to PID tune for days. So, no, not with this deadly one. I’m running a Brain2 for use with my Spektrum NX10 and a very simple, in your face computer program to set it up. It takes 15 minutes and it flies on rails like a pro.
Hey buddy, you finally get why all my comments are about nitro. Awesome flight. Is that bird factory out of the box? Or does it have a few Coeshow upgrades?
Another Incredible Goblin Justin! Congrats on the New RAW Nitro, she's a Beauty my friend. I hope all is well with you and stay safe and stay healthy. I'm just getting through my 2nd bout of Covid in the past 10 weeks. Now that the nice weather is finally here in Toronto, it really sucks. lol. Great Flying, smooth and perfect as always. Way to go Justin and take care my friend!
Dude. Covid. Stay away from people. Buy RC and hibernate. That’s what I do. Healthy like a spring bunny.
@@CoeShow619 I've been doing the same for a long time. I take my dog out once a day, I always wear a mask as I live in an apartment now. Unfortunately, others in the building have no common sense or just don't care about getting vaccinated. I've had 2 Vaccinations and a booster. If I fly, it's on the Sim. Finally beautiful warm weather in Toronto but I'm staying in until I'm 110% healthy. Flying can wait for now. Take care Justin and I hope that your painting project went well! 😊👍
Love the smell of nitro in the morning
Do you know anything about the DX6e ?
Hell yeah I’ve been waiting on this lol.It’s hard to beat the nitro experience.
Sure is fun.
Sir where did yoou connect the rpm sensor to gyro is there a need to setup in Spektrum tx. Thank you
I use ikon2 flybarless. I connect Hobbywing rpm sensor to the rpm port. I have a single wire from the fan P port to pin 5 on the ikon2. Then all you do is pick Hobbywing/ Align telemetry in drop down box for Governor in ikon set up. My radio has telemetry enabled. I use ESC box for telemetry. I fill in the gear ratio, poles etc. Then you get the screen read out
I’m sorry. I just woke up. I use an Xguard rpm sensor. Plug it into the rpm sensor port. You can see if it is working on the governor wizard page for ikon2. At the bottom it will show magnet detected, and governor engaged.
You think you can use a Spektrum FBL on a nitro heli? I see you have IKON on this one.
I’m sure you can or I can, but the difference is the hours of PID tuning it would take with a 6250 to get it to fly like an ikon2 does in 15 minutes. I just don’t have that kind of patience. And I’m not going to experiment with a $3500 helicopter. The ikon2 has proven its worth to me and I’m sticking to it.
5:41, did you just say electric helicopters are MORE powerful than these gas guzzling beasts? That actually surprises me.
With a R/C helicopter yes, electric has more power and torque. It’s immediate response. This is a nitro helicopter which is a huge difference from gasoline. Nitromethane and methanol is burned with oil creating smoke. I have to tune this engine to climate and altitude. I have to be easy and not jerky on the throttle. Plus there is maintenance involved with a piston ring and bearings.
@@CoeShow619 I know it's a nitro heli. I'm just messing with you. But for the record it IS still a fossil fuel. But gas guzzler is more fun to say anyway.
You said the engine is brand new. ??? What tank are you on here.
#10 or so. A gallon plus a tank maybe. Sometimes I just fly half a tank during break in to let it heat cycle.
also, could you please share your needle settings for the high and mid?
My needle settings have nothing to do with your settings. Turn off your governor, set a linear throttle in normal mode. 1st thing calibrate the throttle linkage so you have 50% throttle at center stick. Then adjust the endpoints so you have fully closed and fully open throttle. Now hover the heli at 50% throttle with NO Governor. Give it full throttle for about 2 seconds straight up, it should have smoke but sound happy. Then stop at top. Should see a billow of smoke. Open the medium needle if it coughs. Close it if it chokes. The morning in this video was warm. I had to lean the high needle about 4 clicks inward. It will vary day to day and depending on rpm and the pipe used. I was only at 1980 rpm in stunt 2. I just turned it up to 2100rpm so it will clear out a bit. I may need to open the needle again due to having a higher headspeed for my next flights
@@CoeShow619 thanks very much! Did you use the soft or hard mounts on your fly barless tray?
Hi Coeshow. Im using the 6250 on my G4.1 nitro 800size. Got this strange tail wag on maiden. Adjusting the gyro gain in radio did not help. I was told to lower the P in tail gyro in forward programming. Havent tested it after the change. Do you have any advice?? Im running the o.s 105 on both my Raptors.
Yeah, I know. The tail adjustment is like an alien cousin with the 6250. My main concern would be if your governor is set up correctly. If your headspeed is fluctuating, so will the tail speed. They both need to be constant. If you overrotate the head at all, the tail will shake due to the gains being too high. My issue with the 6250 is there is no baseline set ups for helicopter sizes. You need to adjust the gains as if you were starting from scratch. It is based on a race drone tuning technique. Start with P low at like 30 and put I at 10 and D at 10. Now raise the P until you get a fast shake. Then back the P down till the fast shake goes away. Now raise the I until the heli feels locked in. If you go too high, you will get a slow wag. Now raise the D. Only raise it just high enough to make it snappy. If you go too far, it will get lethargic. First things first would be to make sure your tail rotor has about 2 degrees of right tail pitch in it. You can adjust the tail rotor push rod while in the tail rotor subtrim set up menu in forward programming. I do not use the subtrim. I just leave it at 0. The 6250 is a Pandora’s box of adjustment. You need to spend about 3 hours tuning it. Get to it.
@@CoeShow619 yeah thank you. It is a slow wag. And the P is at stock setting at 85. I will set it for 30 amd work my way up. Thank you for the replay. 😊
@@CoeShow619 Yeah i forgot. I do not use gov at the moment. Just V curves. Never used gov on any of my helis. Not that into hard 3D. I do soft piroflips and rainbows just enjoying these beast.
🙃🙂
looks like the lipo is burning off...:-)
did you use the rubber soft mount on the gyro tray? or the brass hard mounts....i have nearly the same setup and mine has a violent wobble at low head speed until i click into idle up
Mine has the wobble at low headspeed too. It’s the head dampeners. This heli is only made for extreme flying. Any softer head dampener could cause a boom strike. The head block is very low for a tight cg.
And yes. The rubber mounts with my Brain2.
@@CoeShow619 thanks alot! i raised my hs to 2050 and leaned her out a little and its running better than ever! thanks again!
@@josephrichichi6364 That is great news. I’ve been smokin out the runway lately too. Make sure she doesn’t get pistol hot and you’ll be ripping for days. Thanks for watching my footage. Keep flying.
Damn when did you build this!! I was literally wondering what you was up to bc you haven’t posted in a bit. Big jealous
Yeah, I went on vacation too. It’s noisy, but the flying experience is worth it.
@@CoeShow619 oh man I had an old school thunder tiger raptor 30 back in the day. Nothing like that 2 stroke nitro smell. And mess 😂
I hope the battery could last 9 minutes as well.
. It runs on glow fuel. There is a small 2s lipo battery to run the servos and flybarless controller.
Are you running the 6250 ??
I wish I could have the time to PID tune for days. So, no, not with this deadly one. I’m running a Brain2 for use with my Spektrum NX10 and a very simple, in your face computer program to set it up. It takes 15 minutes and it flies on rails like a pro.
Hey buddy, you finally get why all my comments are about nitro. Awesome flight. Is that bird factory out of the box? Or does it have a few Coeshow upgrades?
Just some NAPA know how.
@@CoeShow619 lol yep right out the box 😂👌