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Yo soy Mexicano que nacio en Loos Angeles California en uno de los estados Mexicanos bajo una ocupacion illegal de los yankees. Viva La Reunificasion de los estados bajo la ocupacion. Viva Mexico !
Yo cuando tenia la eda de esos chamacos yo no era tan menso como ellos. Yo me ubiera porrado bien y dicho puras cosas bonitas de Mexico. Si ellos son tan tarados entonces no se meresen la fama ni la gloria.
Realmente me sorprende cómo la gente puede ser tan crítica con Yahritza y Su Esencia por simplemente ser honestos y responder una pregunta de manera sincera. ¿Acaso no es esto lo que se espera cuando se hace una pregunta? Si solo queremos respuestas que nos agraden o que sean completamente positivas, ¿cuál es el propósito de pedir opiniones? Es natural que cada persona tenga sus propias experiencias y percepciones, y eso no significa que no aprecien la cultura o el país. Criticarlos por simplemente expresar su sentir muestra una falta de madurez de parte del público. Si no estamos preparados para escuchar respuestas sinceras, mejor no deberíamos hacer la pregunta. Es triste ver cómo la sociedad actual se ofende por todo y cómo muchos buscan razones para quejarse en lugar de entender y respetar las opiniones ajenas.
Great discussion y'all! As a third generation Mexican-American Tejana, all I can say is the kids probably need to work on their PR skills OR they're going to become the next "one hit wonder". Also, they don't represent all of the Chicanos just like Justin Bieber doesn't represent all Canadians. And look at all the stuff he did.. just saying.
Nah bro, im 3rd generation American-Mexican too, and what they said ain’t acceptable. People be shitting on mexico all the time and to have Mexican-Americans talking sht about the food, the language, the capital city and acceptable. They shouldve known better
@freedomaboveallll But how does sharing opinions about which food you prefer equal talking shit about a whole country? You don’t think that’s kind of a stretch? I agree, they should have known better, but I also think the hate has been too much
@@freedomaboveallll tell this to people with food/ dairy allergies. I myself have roots in Durango, Guerrero, Sinaloa and Zacatecas (1st generation, before you come for my Mexicanidad) and cannot eat a large number of dishes from throughout Mexico because of how prevalent dairy is, but I still enjoy most comida Guerrerense because that's what I grew up eating but also because of the abundance of plant foods there, it can be adapted for vegans pretty easily. Mexico isn't a monolith and the cuisine varies by region.
@@EatBailaTravel EBT. I agree but these musician kids are on a negative streak of errors because they criticized, Mexican language, food, noise, and the way they serve drinks. They’re in desperate need of a PR cleanup person, Que no? Saludos a ustedes, 😊
I grew up in the Pacific Northwest. The mexican population wasn't that big 10 years ago. I agree with them. I grew up speaking both languages. But English became my first language. I often got English and Spanish mixed up. Often speaking English with a Spanish dialect. I'm not American enough for here. Because they have an outlook on us being a "certain way." People ask me where I was born. I told them I was born and raised here in the pnw. They look at me like I'm lying to them and make me feel like wow you think you're better than " But on the other hand, when I was growing up I went to Michocan to visit family. I got called out for being a white washed mexican. And when I spoke Spanish, I would get made fun of. To the point I would get shy and feel inferior. It made me put me into overdrive to where I took Spanish and advanced to college even in high school. But today, I associate with my mexican side more them my American side. Yes, I'm proud to be an American, but in some cases, people think you have money or you think that you are better than them. I have family who was born in the us, and they act like this. It's sad we lost communication with them. I'm sorry for the longggggg comment. But this really hits home
Wow, no don’t apologize, these are exactly the kinds of comments we want to read ❤️🥺 so few understand what it’s like to grow up like this. We can relate, and so many other people can, too
Look at the darn pakistanis, indians, middleeasterns, orientals they dont have time for the BS you are expressing or confused about identity they come to america to work and thay is it just cut this nonsense u are american and get to work and prosper!!!!!
I'm Mexican-American, and I will say that I used to be the same way. I was super prejudiced against my own people. Especially if you were from the southern part of Mexico. I would look down on them and even make fun of them because of their accent. This is something that I'm not proud of at all, and I was also very immature at the time. I love America 🇺🇸 but I've also learned to Love my Mexican culture! I said all this to so say one thing and that's that these kids are immature and haven't learned to filter what they speak! Saludos desde Honduras de un Texano de papa's mexicanos.
Don't be proud of being American. America took half of Mexico's territory and continues to be a enemy of mexico. You're either Mexico first or America first. I'm Mexico first. We have no need for malinchistas.
We’re also assuming their parents had a positive experience in Mexico. Some of our parents left Mexico at a young age and with resentment, so some kids weren’t raised and encouraged to reconnect with their Mexican roots.
I never heard anybody put it that way, I couldn’t agree more. I came from the racho at the age of 16, dealing with many emotions at the time, anger and confusion due to the financial situation I was dealing with at the time. For years I felt some sort of resentment towards the place where I was born. Now that I’m almost 40, I understand that God always has a purpose in our lives so I’m really grateful for everything that has happened in my life.
Our parents come to the US and they are trying to survive, often working more than 40 hrs per week. As a result, the entire family is on survival mode; children doing HW on our own, translating for parents, filling out legal documents at a young age, etc. Our parents do not have the luxury to teach us to appreciate our culture. Therefore the culture is diminished and lost because everyone is busy trying to survive and assimilate to the US culture. Also, like Kevin pointed out, all of us have various access levels to resources in the US, I am thinking these kids do not have a access to the world and culture outside of Washington. I personally did not try different foods until I had my own career, well into my mid-20s because I couldn’t afford that luxury. As a fellow Mexican-American or American of Mexican decent, I love your channel and appreciate both of your insight and videos ❤
The other part is that the parents themselves may have felt victimized by a "culture" that excluded, alienated, ostracized, discarded or oppressed them, a culture that never gave them a real fighting chance. Therefore, they may not feel particularly compelled to transmit that same "culture" to their offspring.
It’s a real shame what happened. Mexico is Mexico 🇲🇽 and the USA is the USA. Different set of rules. For the bands sake, hopefully they put out a sincere apology, get a public relations manager and never try to pull the Fresa 🍓 💩 again. Because let’s be real that’s what hurt.
Maricela entendemos que los mexicanos somos orgullos de nuestra cultura. Pero los chamacos estaban hablando de la Ciudad de México pero la gente lo mal interpretó como todo Mexico. Nosotros conocemos muchísima gente mexicana que habla mal de la Ciudad de México, de su gente y la comida. Tampoco no hay ignorar que eso pasa.
VOY A TERMINAR CON ESTO DICIENDOLES: #1 SU MUSICA ES BUENA #2 ELLA CANTA MUY BIEN #3 ESTA EN SU DERECHO DE CANTAR DONDE QUIERA...AQUI LO MALO ES QUE NO TUVO UN MANAGER QUE LA ORIENTARA DE QUE CIERTAS COSAS NO SE DICEN EN CIERTOS PAISES. TODOS PODEMOS HACER QUE MEXICO ENTIENDA, PERO ELLOS NO, DOS DE ELLOS SON MUY JOVENES Y NO ENTIENDEN QUE" A DONDE QUIERA QUE FUERES, HAS LO QUE VIERES" LOS QUE LOS ENTREVISTARON DEBIERON GUIARLOS.
Nothing wrong with not liking the food. Everyone is different. We need to embrace differences of opinions, even though I think Mexican food is absolutely incredible.
Not that long ago I had an individual tell me "I wish you were more mexican." I also had someone in Mexico tell me I was a gringo... there's always a back and forth between one or the other
I’m American-Mexican, and the fact that they are spanish artists singing mexican music, while disrespecting the culture, language, cities etc is unacceptable.
They did not disrespected your culture in any way stop be a snowflake and grow up. This kids are US citizens if born in US it is not their fault. Why are you proud of a freakin state run by narcos? I wouldn't. Now if this kids were white then nobody would be offended. But since they are brown then they have "el nopal en la cabeza". So the true racist is the mexican they are the ones that dont let you assimilate into USA
That’s not an excuse, I have three kids and I work my ass 24/7 and still taught my kids my culture. You need to search more and you’ll find out the rest.
@@rosaliollamas4209 like I said its an option. You dont have to be mexican by culture. Its like telling whites in America to become english because they look english. Its ridicolous. Asians come to america to prosper not to be waving a chinese flag and to question their identity.
I think y’all missed the point here… we’re not claiming that it’s racism against Chicanos, because Chicanos are not a race and that’s not how that works. It’s the use of indigenous people as insults with the memes created to bully the kids for their indigenous features. Being called an “Indio” in Mexico is usually used as an insult. That’s racist.
@decolonizationisforeveryon1514 yes you’re totally right! I was confused as to why you brought that up because that wasn’t the point I was trying to make but a completely separate one. Malinchismo is a whole complicated issue on its own
@@EatBailaTravel Noted and understood and point given. I don't feel we can use them being called "Indios" as a racist term though. I believed their actions of degrading their own heritage allows people to call them such thing. Acting like they're not of that heritage or above it allows "Indios" is being used as a description of what they should have known was their culture.
@mikewillie9112 I hear you and understand what you’re saying. It’s not the word “Indio” that’s racist, it’s that people are putting societal expectations on a history of discrimination that has tried really hard to keep indigenous people at a societal disadvantage because they’re seen as less than. It’s all the history and baggage that the term comes with. Plus, Mexicans are not all brown, some are black some are white. “Because you’re brown and from Mexico, you SHOULD like XYZ” I don’t think it’s fair to put people in a box like that.
Very good content, I go through the same s___! Everywhere I go people speak to me in Spanish, they find it hard to believe I don't speak Spanish, I am an American. Anyways keep up the good work bring light on this issues.
Jenny, I share your views and found myself conflicted as well. I would’ve like to see the focus on positive experiences of their visit rather than dislikes but I believe they were experiencing some culture shock and struggled with navigating that conversation. In viewing the social content coming out of Mexico, I strongly believe Mexico’s deep-seated systematic racism and classism were exposed both consciously and unconsciously. It was extremely disappointing to see that their skin tone and indigenous heritage and features were used to belittle them and enforce a sense of “inferiority”. On the other hand, I can empathize with Mexicans who were upset by the straightforward statements and the perception that they benefit from Mexico and it’s people, yet express cultural contempt (no matter how minor) understandably triggered anger. As a first generation Chicana myself I understand navigating both worlds can be complex. There's a significant level of scrutiny that Mexicans can subject you to and in recent years Mexican-Americans have increasingly started to gate-keep Mexican culture and imposing their own criteria for defining Mexicanness. However, that’s a topic for another day. Thank you both for sharing your thoughts. In this climate it can be risky to have an unpopular opinion but I believe it is important to have open dialogue to help us bridge our cultural differences.
So many good comments on this video but yours has to be one of my favorites. You've articulated so well the problematic nature of this whole fiasco. Thank you for mentioning the gate-keeping, something that's bugged me for a long time but haven't been able to process very well. Great idea for perhaps a future video. Thanks for the inspo!
As a Mexican American looking to move to Mexico, I can honestly say that it is tough for us. Jenny expressed it eloquetly "Not American enough for the Americans and not Mexican enough for the Mexicans. Recently, I have spent a lot of time in Mexico but everytime Im there I sometimes feel like a have to proof that I am Mexican.
something we're learning along this journey is how to be more authentically ourselves, which I'm sure the kids in this situation wanted to do, but they might've brought some arrogance into the situation, but let this be a lesson to us all to always have compassion when sharing our perspectives and opinions. When other people see you are making an effort to consider their reality, they'll be more inclined to accept yours.
Mexicans in Mexico are weary about how Mexican-Americans really feel about them because they probably had past experiences where they felt belittled and maybe some Chicanos act like their 💩 don’t stink, so they don’t know if you’re someone arrogant. They are trying to figure you out.
Also, Mexicans gave Yaritza y su esencia a lot of support and now they feel betrayed because of all the negative things they said when the interviewer simply asked “How has Mexico been treating you?” Of the 5 answers they gave, the 5 answers were negative.
"Ni de aqui ni de allá"...🤔, ¿saben algo sobre Quebec (o Cataluña en España)? Es una provincia francofona casi en su totalidad en Canada, pais mayoritariamente anglofono. Pese a que Quebec no es un pais y esta rodeado de angloparlantes, ha sabido conservar la lengua francesa y gran parte de su cultura, incluso han habido referendums para lograr algun dia su independencia de Canada. Ellos no se sienten ni canadienses ni franceses, ellos son más que nada quebecoises, incluso desarrollaron su propia derivacion del frances, hasta tienen bandera propia. ¿Podran algun dia hacer algo parecido los millones de mexico americanos, o hispanos, y de una vez aceptar el hecho de que es imposible estar totalmente integrado a una u otra cultura, y aceptar ese hecho e incluso algun dia llegar a tener cierta libertad, autonomia y reconocimiento como el de Quebec o Cataluña?
Im mexican american and since a kid, i knew i was mexican. why try to be american when you're not. you were just born in the US and thats it. I knew mexicos history (that they manipulated) from a young age and then i grew up to know its real history and i know everything about mexico. its cringe as hell seeing nopales try to be american when the americans dont even want you or consider you an american. mexican americans have this superiority complex about themselves. Which is why mexicans dont accept you but if you didnt have that in you, they will accept you. stop trying to be something youre not. You're mexican and period.
They’re kids and unexperienced.. Los representantes pudieron evitar esto,con simplemente guiarlos y enseñarles como o actuar en frente de la cámaras. Y en Estados Unidos hay muchos Mexicanos,que pagarían lo que sea por volver a comer un antojo Mexicano de su lugar preferido.. I been following your channel for a while.Orgulloso de ustedes de tomar la decisión de Vivir y conocer nuestra cultura… Y espero que muchos más sigan sus pasos de una o otra forma. Continúen conociendo y explorando cada Rincón de Mexico.
Hi both of you. Actually I like your videos, congratulations!. I already know that you are mexican american persons and in my opinion it´s so great because you are able to speak english and spanish, although sometimes some mexican people are aggresive and call you either pochos or chicanos. In my opinion it doesn´t matter whether both of you were born in US as long as you respect and love your mexican roots. Go ahead with your videos. Regards from Ixtlahuaca Mexico
I don't think people put the geography of these two places into consideration. They live in an area where there are fields and fields all around them. How much noise do you think they are used to? Probably not much, so when you put these teens in the middle of Mexico City with such a high population and surrounded by buildings and traffic, it will affect how they experience this new place. So of course this girl's first comment is on the noise. The oldest is just used to the seasoning of food in Washington. As a Cali girl myself, I don't like tex-mex seasoning. I also have high expectations of mexican food because I've had amazing Mexican food in CA, yes I am bias. I am sure they have their own biases but to cancel them and bully them for these comments wasn't right. Now all of us, parents with kids that don't speak perfect Spanish or any Spanish are going to think twice before bringing their kids to Mexico. No one wants their own people putting down their kids.
Traveling anywhere without the language knowledge means a certain amount of discomfort. That discomfort hopefully will make people better at acquiring the language long term
I am from Mexico, and I am seeing here Mexican-Americans making a wrong assumption; you guys think that Mexico is canceling Yaritza; it’s not the country of Mexico, it’s their fans, fans of the genre of “regional mexicano “. The press was very understanding of the situation; I saw a show with Adela Micha, a famous journalist, and she spoke in favor of Yaritza as other tv shows. They understand they are young kids, and there is always a fuzzy eater in our family; we understand she feels more comfortable speaking English ; but when you are selling a product directed to Spanish speaking market (regional Mexicano); you cannot say: “voy a hablar español cuando yo quiera y si no les gusta se pueden retirar” and that is exactly what their fans are doing. When you are a public figure you gotta be careful with your choice of words; she came across very prepotent; and that is what people in Mexico dislike (specially in regional mexicano) it’s not the comments about the food, or language preference. Angela Aguilar had the same problem, she seems prepotent. As we say in Mexico: “no muerdas la mano de quien te da de comer”.
Por fin, un comentario razonable. Lo unico que quiero agregar a esto es que la reaccion de muchos se me hizo muy hipocrita. Peso Pluma dijo que un estado mexicano estaba "culero" (osea, feo, de la chingada, horrible), y estuvo en Argentina diciendo que los argentinos le "dieron en la ve*ga a los mexicanos" en el partido. Esos comentarios se me hacen mucho mas irrespetuosos hacia Mexico que cualquier cosa que dijeron estos plebes, pero no miro que se haya echo un pedote como este. Ademas, desde que me vine a vivir a Mexico, me sorprende cuanto mexicano menosprecia su propia cultura y gastronomia, y prefiere la estadunidense. Aqui veo a mexicanos que les encanta Starbucks, McDonald's, Subway, Little Caesar's, Popeye's, cheken, desprecian a la musica regional mexicana, la denominan "naca" y "fea", hablan de "indios patas rajadas", que se burlan de la comida callejera mexicana y hablan de "donia panchita en la esquina vendiendo sus taquitos" en tono burlesco, actos y palabras mucho mas ofensivas que cualquier cosa que dijeron estos chamacos.
As for the noise comment, if you grew up in a rural environment, the level of activity in any city, including Mexico City, would be overwhelming. Also, regardless of where you grow up, people have food preferences and differences in spice tolerance etc. The response seems extreme.
@@EatBailaTravelal parecer no conocen el contexto real del porque fue cancelada esa agrupación, los Mexicanos no están ofendidos por qué no les gusta la comida, deben de investigar y mirar todos los vídeos de esta agrupación para que realmente sepan cuál fue el motivo. Arrogancia Desprecio por la comida El no querer hablar español con sus seguidores, al grado de decirles que ella iba hablar español cuando ella quisiera y al que no le pareciera se puede ir. El hacer cara de asco una coke en bolsa enfrente del taquero. Al preguntarle que cuando regresaría a México y solo saca la lengua en forma de burla y se retira. Todo eso y más lo pueden ver todo está documentado en los vídeos Solo dejen de decir que son unos niños inexpertos Uno de ellos 26 o 27 El otro 18 Y elle 16 Su carrera seguirá en USA Pero perdieron uno de los mejores mercados para la música.
I don’t know where they stayed in Mexico City, but it sounds like it was in the center historic district which is always super loud. When you stay in that city you have to do your research and stay in a nice comfortable quiet area if you can, The Santa Fe area probably has tons of newer quieter hotels, but it’s away from all the action, ni modo🤷🏻♂️
La funa seguirá para este grupo por maleducados. La buena educación y modales no conocen fronteras. En vez de ser agradecidos con México ellos vinieron a burlarse de nosotros con gestos, risas y muecas. Mordieron la mano que les daba de comer. 🎉🇲🇽
POCHOS APOYANDO POCHOS HABLANDO EN INGLÉS ESTÁS SON LAS GENERACIONES NI DE AQUÍ NI DE ALLA SON MÁS YANKIS QUE LOS ANGLOSAJÓNES PERO LOS GRINGOS NO LOS QUIEREN
@@Enrique-zn2gl La funa seguirá para este grupito que quería lucrar de México, estamos cansados de los mexicanos que se van al exterior y cuándo regresen nos juzguen con risas, gestos, muecas a nuestras caras por tener una economía menos desarrollada. La gastronomía mexicana es una expresión de la cultura. Se menosprecia la comida, se rechaza la nación.
So just from the clips you showed, it just seems these guys are kids, thrown into a level of popularity they weren’t ready for. It didn’t appear they had any idea how to handle a legit press junket. Had someone sat them down beforehand with a list of possible questions, they could have handled it better. As adults being asked our thoughts on CDMX, the 1st response would have been the culture, the architecture, the people, etc. not “I prefer chicken wings!” 😂 side note I have had Mexican food in Washington… they don’t know what spicy is! Lol
Lol Mexican food in Washington doesn't even sound appetizing.. but yea I think you're right on point here, a more mature adult would have known not to say "I prefer chicken wings" lol but people are so mean and jump to hate on the internet
Speaking on the group Yahritza y su Esencia, I don't think there's anything wrong with them not favoring certain dishes from a certain country, but to make it seem as though it's all unappetizing and compare it to a completely dissimilar nation where everything utterly contrasts, can be seen as pure insolence by others. I am Mexican/Argentinian, and personally, there are certain foods that I don't like from either place, but I would never behave in such a discourteous manner or make any snide remarks. There are several methods of conveying your stance on a subject matter and voicing your preferences, as long as you're clever about it. There is a reason that they say "think before you speak." It can either be beneficial or disadvantageous. In addition, refusing to speak a language that is in fact the main language spoken by the supporters of a person or group, simply because they refuse, demonstrates nothing but arrogance and mindlessness. Unequivocally, "pocho" is a derogatory term meant to disparage others, point blank period. I'm from a border town in Arizona, therefore I grew up around the Mexican/Latino people, culture, and have extensive knowledge about the language, customs, food, etc. I have perceived that many Mexicans, especially nationalist ones, tend to denigrate those who were not born in the country of Mexico and are of Mexican origin, but applaud non-mexicans when they say anything in spanish, regardless of how nonsensical it may be. Many of them also tend to be very censorious regarding the physical appearance of others. I personally find their behavior quite derisive and hypocritical. Unfortunately, this type of dismissive conduct towards noncitizens seems to occur in various countries around the world. They make it seem as though they are envious and irascible people, which is lamentable. If people of Mexican descent are ashamed of their roots, they say, "Son de descendencia mexicana y se avergüenzan de sus raíces. Con en nopal en la frente. Se creen gringos. Se creen porque son de allá. Son racistas." But if you are proud of your roots, they say, "No son mexicanos porque no nacieron en México. Son pochos. No saben nada de México. No hablan bien el español." Damned if you do and damned if you don't. Hypocrisy at its best. This is why you shouldn't care about how you're perceived by others, especially when they go through life negatively judging everyone and everything. How can people expect others to respect them when they can even respect their own? This is simply my viewpoint on this particular subject matter, so if any offense is taken by my opinion, it's not my issue and you need to work on your emotional stability. Si te quedó el saco, then work it honey! You look amazing!
Hi guys! I just subscribed! I only “discovered” your channel a few days ago and have watched a few of your videos. Very interesting stuff but what I most appreciate is that finally there are videos about traveling in Mexico from our perspective i.e. Mexican-Americans! So thank you and keep up the good work! I look forward to move of your videos. Ciao!
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I agree with the two of you. I do want to say that Washington state is rich with Mexicans. I am 72 and grew up in San Diego and my dads best friends lived in TJ. I also have Mexican friends here in Anacortes Wa. and most look forward to returning to Mexico when they retire. They like you travel back to Mexico for extended visits every summer. This keeps there kids roots strong for there home Country.
cool, I didn't know there was such a significant population of Mexicans in WA state. Though now that I think about it, with all the vineyards and farms, I bet many migrate there for work
@@EatBailaTravel both my grandfathers came up here as Braceros to pick blueberries back in the day! They returned home but others stayed and planted their roots in WA. The first non-Indigenous people in the region weren't the Spanish or White American settlers, but people from what is now Mexico during the Colonial era. Really interesting history. There are those that like to pretend that Mexicans just got here yesterday but we influenced trade and industry in the region from the start. There's also a peak near Mt. Rainier that shares a namesake with my dad's pueblo in Guerrero (Chutla) so I've always wondered if there was a Pre-Hispanic connection as well.
Maybe in some way these super talented kids were expressing pride in where they're from. True, they could have expressed their thoughts differently, but as you said, they're young kids. Perhaps they were thinking, yeah, we have a strong Mexican culture in WA where we live and it's interesting to note the differences etc. They only know what they know. I wish them luck.
you know what, I think you're exactly right on that. People act like Mexican Americans need to CHOOSE A SIDE but why can't we be proud of all those parts of us? If I were them "well I play mexican music so it must be obvious how much I love my mexican culture so I'm going to say something that highlights the other part of me" they unfortunately did that with the wrong audience, a sensitive mexican audience
Hola chicos! Primero que nada me gusto todo lo que dijieron y me siento muy orgullosa de ustedes. Sobre este teme, es algo triste que paso. Yo soy nacida en Mexico y vine a vivir a USA cuando era adolescente entonces ver personas como ustedes (chicanos) ir al país que me vio crecer es súper bonito, ver toda las cosas bonitas que Mexico tiene que ofrecer es una sensación que no puedo explicar, pero también ver como Yaritza dijo en una entrevista (en ingles) que a ella no le gustaba Mexico pero usar el lenguaje para la fama no se vale, yo entiendo de donde viene ella y que talvez se siente más cómoda hablando inglés, pero también tiene que entender que la mayoría de su público son hispanos y muchos no entienden Inglés. Entonces porque no primero pensar lo que uno dice antes de hablar.
La artista tiene libertad de expression punto. Ellos ya son Americanos dejenlos ser. Yo estoy de acuerdo en la asimilacion. Ellos quieren asimilisarse a Eeuu y eso es muy bonito. Apoco tu quieres ver a los venezolanos bolando bamderas de venezuela en Mexico? Claro que no. Ahora la musica es un arte yo canto canciones en aleman, portuguese, japones yo soy musico y no tengo que "amar" la comida o el pais de Alemania. Lo que tienen muchos mexicanos es envidia hacia los chicanos porque realmente prosperan aki. El mismo mexicano no permite que el mismo mexicano prospere son como las langostas que jalan a la que quiere salir hacia abajo. Yo aki en Eeuu e sufrido mas con el mexicano que con los demas
@@dianabenavides2913envidia de los chicanos que no son de aquí ni de haya Jajajaja estás muy equivocado, los Chi años se creen más según por nacer en USA pero ni los quieren 😂 en Mexico si se prospera si trabaja duro, yo no envidio nada a los gringos desabridos y menos a los chócanos renegados
No estoy de acuerdo. El Peso Pluma dijo que Sonora "esta culero" y nadie dijo nada. Fue a Argentina de lambiscon y dijo que los argentinos le dieron en la v**ga a México y no se hizo un pedote. Comentarios mucho más ofensivos hacia México que lo que dijeron estos chamacos. Y además, no hablaron mal de México, simplemente dijeron que prefieren la comida de su lugar de origen. ¿Acaso un mexicano en EEUU ofende a EEUU si dice que le gustan más los tacos que las hamburguesas? Sería ridículo decir que sí. Y además, a muchos mexicanos les gusta más el cheken y la comida americana que la mexicana. Aquí en México veo cotidianamente a mexicanos menospreciar la comida mexicana, prefiriendo comer pizza, hamburguesas, alitas, café americano en lugar de cafecito mexicano con pan dulce, que menosprecian a la música regional mexicana, denominándola "basura," "naca," y no sé qué más. ¿Son ellos anti-mexicanos?
Y además, hay artistas mexicanos que dicen que no les gusta Estados Unidos, pero siguen haciendo giras allá. Y hacen giras por los "pochos," los chicanos, los mexico-americanos; si no fuera por ellos, no tendrían público en EEUU. ¿Acaso se van a hacer giras en Iowa, Dakota del Sur, Wyoming, Maine, donde casi no hay mexicanos ni mexico-americanos?
No se compliquen tanto, lo que pasó con esos jóvenes, que por cierto NO SON NIÑOS, es simple y llanamente FALTA DE EDUCACIÓN, tú no vas a casa de tu tía quien te está dando empleo e ingresos y quien además te recibe con mucho amor en su casa y le dices que no le gusta su comida y que la comida de tu casa es mucho mejor porque si sabe rica y está buena, y la de ella no., y además le dices a tu tía que no le gusta quedarte en su casa porque hay mucho ruido y te molesta, que tu casa es mejor; nada más imagínate como se va a sentir tu tía! Casi nadie haría semejante BURRADAS ya sea por EDUCACIÓN ELEMENTAL o mínimo SENTIDO COMÚN! No se trata de ser o no mexicano, se trata de RESPETO Y EDUCACIÓN ELEMENTAL
Tu logica esta muy mala. Ademas, cuantos artistas mexicanos no dicen que prefieren a Mexico y a su comida y aun asi no dejan de hacer gira en EEUU? Ademas, la pregunta se la plantearon, no lo dijeron nomas por decirlo.
@@edgarcorral562 para empezar me queda claro que también careces de educación elemental, pero ése no es mi problema, por otro lado te recuerdo que la pregunta no se las plantearon en ningún momento, eso justamente es lo peor de todo, sus respuestas no venían al caso con la pregunta que les hicieron, ellos como respuesta empezaron a hablar solamente cosas negativas de México, la comida, el ruido, etc. La comida de cualquier lugar te puede gustar o no, no es obligación que te guste, lo malo en éste asunto fue la forma tan desagradable que lo dieron, con una MUY MUY MALA EDUCACIÓN, eso es incuestionable, pero por lo que veo tu también careces de una buena educación, por eso no lo entiendes
@@letticia2024 Leticia, gracias por tu respuesta. En respuesta a tu diatriba difamatoria, permíteme decir lo siguiente: La entrevistadora les preguntó cómo los trataba la Ciudad de México. Yahritza interpretó esto como si se referiera a si les gustaba la Ciudad de México. Independientemente de si malinterpretó la pregunta, eso es lo que entendió y es la pregunta que respondió. También es la pregunta a la que respondieron sus hermanos. Gustarte (o no gustarte) un lugar es un tema complejo, ya que abarca una constelación de factores, como el clima, la infraestructura, el nivel de ruido y, en muchos casos, la comida. Ella no dijo que no le gustaba México o que no le gustaba la Ciudad de México. De hecho, precedió su comentario diciendo que le gustaba y solo entonces agregó las cosas que no le gustaban. No estoy seguro en qué mundo vives si crees que algún país o ciudad es perfecta y, por lo tanto, todo sobre élla es agradable. No veo dónde mi respuesta muestra una "falta de educación" o "inteligencia". Dado que decidiste atacar mi nivel de educación y/o inteligencia, simplemente señalaré que soy miembro de dos sociedades de alto coeficiente intelectual y tengo amplios conocimientos en política, literatura, historia, filosofía, entre otros temas. De hecho, probablemente sé más sobre México, su historia y su música que tú. La humildad va en ambas direcciones. Las personas razonables pueden estar en desacuerdo. Si no estás de acuerdo con lo que dije, basta señalar dónde me equivoqué, en lugar de lanzar insultos. Que tengas un buen día.
@@edgarcorral562 que soberbia! Una vez más muestras tu falta de educación elemental que poco tiene que ver con la inteligencia y mucho menos con la preparación académica, también podría contestarte enlistando mis títulos y nivel académico pero me resulta absolutamente ocioso en éste en éste contexto
Luísito es mexicano, y su contenido no es sólo para el público de México. Los muchachos de este grupo son de descendencia mexicana, no es lo mismo. Le cantan a un público mayoritariamente mexicano que escuchan el regional mexicano. Desde mi punto de vista, si ellos fueran de otro género, digamos, el pop latino, no hubiese sido la gran cosa. Personalmente no me parece racista.
En referencia a Luisito comunica no era en comparación al grupo yahritza. Era para nosotros, la gente nos hecha mucha lumbre que no hacemos los videos en español y que estando en Mexico deberían de ser en español. Por eso la comparación.
De hecho, si es lo mismo, ya que el articulo 30 de la Constitucion de Mexico dice que todos los que nazcan en el extranjero de padres mexicanos son mexicanos por nacimiento. De hecho, la mayoria de los paises no otorgan la nacionalidad nomas por haber nacido en su territorio; es necesario ser de la ascendencia de ese pais (por ejemplo, para ser chino, no basta con haber nacido en China; tienes que ser de descendencia china).
@@EatBailaTravelCada quien con su proyecto, usd se sienten cómodos con el idioma en inglés y su tema es la cultura mexicana y su mercado es el de usa y esta bien. Hay otros youtubers de otros países por ejemplo :chingu amiga, el coreano (coreanos), no manches (son 2 hermanos alemanes), etc tuvieron que aprender el idioma español y tecnicismos mexicanos y les está yendo bien en youtube.
We all have different experiences, different upbringings, etc. In my case, my family has been in Texas since the 1700s and 1800s, so my experiences may be drastically different to someone who’s parents are immigrants. Regardless though, I would never have said anything negative about Mexico while I’m in Mexico, or any country for that matter. They were guests in Mexico trying to start a career there. You don’t bite the hand that feeds you, and as celebrities they should have known better, even if they are teenagers. I hope they can salvage their career somehow and learn from this experience.
Great video!!! The struggle is real! Living here in Mexico.. basically got to do what the Mexican does... My husband Jose was born here..he migrated to the US..we met and married...25 years later we are here and me a Chicana.. bilingual...meet his family and they now tell me they are shocked that I am not a gringa repunosa.. I get it...both of you are so on point! ❤
@@EatBailaTravel . Yes!! and they were so intimidated prior to our meeting...they told me they thought there was no one poor in the United States... when I told them my story they were so not believing that I grew up with what I needed and worked for what we have..no luxuries.. The relationship I have with my Mexican family here is special... They are amazed that I know two languages...
Thank you for discussing this topic. I got goosebumps. To me “ni de aqui, ni de allá” is the hardest part of being an immigrant. I feel like I’m from all but nowhere at the same time. But I love your take on your shirt.
Don't feel that way. Be proud of being Mexican-American! Que vivan los chicanos! Que vivan los mexicanos! Que viva la nacion chicana y la nacion mexicana, la sangre es mas fuerte que el suelo, y a final de cuentas, somos la misma raza mexicana, somos, como dice Vicente Fernandez en su cancion Hijo del Pueblo, descendientes de Cuahutemoc.
I’m a Mexican American born in Mexico but raised in the US since the age of 3. What I cannot understand is how in the interviews these kids could not clearly express their love and appreciation of Mexican culture when their whole musical career and their music videos are infused with Mexican sounds, cultural symbols, mannerisms, style of dress, and they even sing in Spanish. They would have to be so ignorant, secluded, and not have access to anything Mexican to be quick to dismiss the treasures of Mexico and just say that back home is better. I’m sure they have access to internet and their whole music production process likely exposes them to a lot of Mexican culture. I would not give them a pass at all. For me they’re just very spoiled, uneducated kids who think they can say whatever they want and not deal with the consequences. I have 5-yo nieces and nephews in the US who can show you way more pride about their Mexican culture, including food, than these teenagers. Such a shame! Growing up I also felt embarrassed sometimes about some aspects of the Mexican culture that I did not connect with, but I would NEVER generalize it to the entire Mexican culture as a teenager, and I would also be a little more smart to know that if you’re making a living as an artist who distinctly dresses, talks, and sings with a Mexican flare, that you would at least appear to be more appreciative of your cultural roots. Just sayin. New subscriber here!
I have also said that perhaps their parents and family have just not been able to provide the lessons that some Chicano kids have. My experience was that, I knew how to speak Spanish from the time I knew how to speak but I as a young teen wanted to belong to the kids I was surrounded by I was conflicted with being from here as in the U.S vs people assuming I was from there as in Mexico. I just wanted to be me and for a long time the assumptions that I wasn’t either bothered me so growing up here I embraced it but if anyone spoke negative about Mexico or Mexicans it angered me so I have been there man, I have felt all of it and I must say it’s taken probably a good 40 years to just say f it let’s go with the flow and now I can for the most part adapt to any situation and just embrace the chicana me without thinking twice about it. We as a society of Mexican people should give them some grace. I wish I had granted myself that same grace at that age.
the fact that you went through it, and that so many of us have gone through it, it's an experience I think is not well understood by Mexicans in Mexico..
Our American mannerisms will always be a giveaway not just in Mexico. We are what culture environment we grew up in. I'm of Mexican descent, but that's about it. I don't know anything about Mexico other than the food and language i was brought up in.
I am Mexican American and visit Mexico a lot, I have never been asked any questions about liking xyz Mexican thing. But I do think that ALOT of the comments towards the group are racist.
Mexican culture in general is a very formal. As a child you are taught to show deference in all aspects of life, to be a well natured individual, and generous to all you meet. That is not the American way, not even close! 😂 The kids will learn or fizzle. Personally I’m of the Timbiriche age and can still remember the love, admiration, and respect they had for their Mexico. But they where from Mexico and understood the expectations. To your point about pochos. I’ve noticed, in media, that sounding pocho/a/x as a Mexican who drops in some Spanglish here and there signals a private education or an elevated social standing and therefore acceptable. But if you genuinely struggle with the Spanish language [and from the USA ] you are now a pocho. I feel like the double standards is a reflection of the social dissonance MEXICO struggles with when it attempts to understand the impact it’s system of immigration has on us all.
These kids are Americans who look Mexican. They didn't grow up in a pueblo. They will be outsiders intellectually and spirituality, but not physically. This has been stated by European when "German" or "French" Americans visit their ancestral homeland. There is no such thing as a hyphenated American. You're just an American. An American in your ancestors homeland. It's oxymoronic, yet it's the fate of all immigrants to be cosmopolitan and deracinated. Sad but true.
"I’ve noticed, in media, that sounding pocho/a/x as a Mexican who drops in some Spanglish here and there signals a private education or an elevated social standing and therefore acceptable." I think you watched La Rosa de Guadalupe and missed the whole point of the show which is to criticize society (and does a very shitty and hilarious job at it). People who speak spanglish in Mexico usually fall into two stereotypes, Fresas or what kids call them now Whitexicans who are usually people who think everything American is better simply for being American and usually come from mid-high class families, the best comparison to an American stereotype are dumb blonde white girls from California, the other stereotype is that it is said by rural types from the border area, usually very uneducated who say things like "troca", "parkin" or "mol", both stereotypes are very negative, the 2nd is almost the equivalent of a "redneck" in Mexico. What comes as someone who shows signals of a private or elevated education are fully bilingual people.
"Timbiriche" was made up of by fresas/fifis. They are 1000% Mexican, even though they were all, "'fresas chilangas." They knew how to "congraciarse con la gente popular." They understood that they belonged to the "haves" but were thoroughly trained by their handlers/managers on how to win the hearts and minds of the "masses." They were SCHOOLED by their top notch PR reps on how to act and what to say, while being interviewed. Just like Pandora, Flans, Fandango, Garibaldi, etc., all surrounded by the best PR firms/talent agencies from Mexico City. (Mexico City is a magnet for all of the talent coaches etc. from all over Latin America, mainly Argentina). MEXICO IS VERY FORMAL, like you said. The US today is definitely NOT. Unfortunately, these Chicano kids were clueless. They obviously had NO knowledge/guidance on how to speak to the "farandula chilanga"/Mexican media. Yakima, Washington and Polanco are on separate planets. 18:10
The struggle is real. 😢 When I'm with my white friends they consider me their Mexican friend. But with my Mexicans friends I do suffer not knowing cultural references from Spanish tv, music or slang. So I do miss on their references and usually don't get jokes. But any chance I get to practice my Spanish I'm in!! One word in Spanish and we are on!!😃😁
The "Mexican" media/ novelas/ programming in the US is so sensationalized and a joke. I understand why you feel left out but they're only repping the superficial aspects of what is presented as Mexican/ Latino culture in the US. Tell 'em many of our ancestors didn't even speak Spanish. 😉Glad that you're connecting to your roots though! Spanish was my first language but I didn't learn how to speak it grammatically correct until I was in University.
@@rvbberbandheart "Tell 'em many of our ancestors didn't even speak Spanish." Unless you speak either Yucatec, Tzotzil, Mixtec, Zapotec, Mayo, Yaqui, Wixarika, Raraumuri or Nahuatl that point makes no sense either, Mexico recognizes 70 languages as "official", English isn't one of them, Spanish is.
Omg you guys literally said almost every thoughts I had 😭 As for the last clip. From what I found on TikTok. It’s NOT an interview. That girls name is Meche and is Yaritza’s friend, I think they even dated! So it seems they often go on Live and talk English! In his clip they were talking English at the beginning then Meche starts teasing Yahritza bout her Spanish and how she’s a no sabo kid. Yahritza seems a little upset like I could tell she was trying to respond in Spanish but didn’t really know what to say so then she starts making funny faces. I think this is how it stated. It’s definitely the same day bc they have the same clothes and the girl is doing her makeup. So in this context I don’t see it bad that she’s telling her friend who she always talks in English to talk to her in English after she called her a no sabo kid
This may be a bit lengthy, so I apologize in advance. Just yesterday, I heard someone say that a cultural shift happened at the advent of the telegraph. Now, that goes way...way back....to the 1800s. The reason for this shift, according to the speaker, was because prior to the telegraph, news was localized. And when something was "news", it was generally information that was meant to be acted upon. If you heard that Jim's barn down the lane was on fire, that information was meant to be acted upon, meaning you were told that Jim's barn was on fire so that you would grab a bucket, some water and help put it out. That's why you were told about it. But when the telegraph came along, you could hear news (information) that you "couldn't" act upon: If you got a message that Jim's barn, which was 100 miles from you, was on fire, it was just...news. Useless information to the degree that even if you wanted to do something, you couldn't, because you were too far away. I say all this to say that we are bombarded with information that we cannot or will not do anything with. It is just useless to us. It doesn't mean it's not important; it does mean, however, that it is just clutter in our minds because we cannot do anything with it. We store up tons and tons of this useless information daily. What does this have to do with the subject of this video? The Internet has become a living, breathing "thing", that tells us when we are right and when we are wrong. It constantly feeds us information and tells us what we should think and feel about it. If we say something "the Internet" does not like or agree with, it quickly puts us in our place. It cancels us, it berates us, it shoves us into a corner until we come out with our hands up in surrender. It has gone beyond just the verbal: people's whole lives have been impacted by this thing called the Internet. People have lost jobs, lost their places of residence, even lost their lives, because of the Internet. For the hosts of this channel, they are living in two different worlds, both of which are being shaped and monitored by the Internet. It says that they are not Mexican enough or American enough (I shouldn't say American, because Mexico is part of America, but for this example we will just go with it). It would be different if it was localized. But with the Internet, it cannot be local. It is global. And it is eternal. I totally understand where Jenni and Kevin are coming from. Being Black but going to school with White kids when I was much younger put me in a similar situation. I'm too Black to be White, but too White to be Black. I cannot be just...me. I have to be what society says is acceptable. Who decides what a Black person is? Where is it written down that to be Black (or Mexican or whatever) you must check off this, this and this box? Who cares? And who decides that it is YOUR duty to tell ME (or in this case, Jenni and Kevin) that I am not good enough in either category to be one or the other? If Jenni and Kevin want to go to Mexico to discover more about their heritage, that should be celebrated and embraced. I would think that Mexicans would be proud to say that two young people from the US wanted to come to the "motherland" and learn about that part of their culture. And I would think the US would be proud to have two people from Mexican heritage in the US offering cultural diversity and contributing to the overall health and wellbeing of the country. As for these artists who said what they said: I have no opinion one way or the other. They said what they said. Who cares? They were being honest. We can say that maybe they didn't say it correctly. OK, fair point. But how many times have we opened our mouths and said something we wished we could have said differently? I also do not like that people have to always come back and apologize for something they said, when the only reason they are doing it is so that the Internet will get off their backs. If you said what you said and you truly want to apologize, OK, that's all fine and good. But I don't like when people are forced to do something, especially if it is against what they truly feel. What has any of this to do with my original point? The Internet is the new telegraph. It gives us information that we cannot do anything with. We are wired to have some sort of reaction to information. When we cannot DO anything with information (in this case, the singers making off-handed comments), we resort to the one thing we can do: judge. And that's where we become even more divided. Because if I come out on this side of the subject, and the Internet comes out on the other, then I open myself up to judgment and criticism. It's just not worth it anymore. OK, I'm done.
So true! I love how you explained the progression from telegram to the internet - we sure are full of too much useless info!! But I think the ‘internet’ is not a thing but has entities/people behind it who are controlling the narratives and emotions and loves pitting the masses against each other!! We have to resist and LOVE instead since love conquers evil!
I don't think they disrespected anyone much less Mexican culture! They were comparing life styles in 2 very different countries. And boy it's so different i prefer to pay my bills online every month and have my services run every month. I also agree with Yaritza that we don't always have to speak Spanish and we choose when and where we speak and who we speak with. Maybe her parents taught her to love the Good old USA More because she is after all a born and raise USA citizen.
The Mexicans open the door to them by attending their concerts with no problem. I guess is their lack of manners that got people upset.That girl is soo rude when she was being interviewed. Absolutely no manners.
I totally agree with you both, the Internet blew this way UP and what a sad occurrence. I love their music. As a Gringa living in Oaxaca City, I feel the racism against outsiders/ Foreigners intensely, even though I am bilingual. I feel rudeness often with lack of manners and respect- that whole thing of "a few bad apples". There are so many wonderful Mexicans that are warm and welcoming. It's sad that the divide is as enormous as it is- regardless of whether someone is Mexican American or Anglo. This is an important topic and you two did an excellent job discussing it.
Well, Oaxaca can be a hornet's nest of leftist radicalism, exacerbated by the current administration, so that explains some of the anti-foreign sentiment that you face. It's not new or unexpected. Plus it's a big pueblo, un pueblón, so there's that too. Pueblo chico, infierno grande. 😉
Chale! Soy de CDMX, no se la quiebren chavos. El punto está en que se viven realidades distintas. Para empezar. No somos iguales ( Claro, somos hijos de Dios y todos somos iguales .. ( claro unos más iguales que otros.) ( Leanse LA REBELIÓN DE LA GRANJA). OK, somos Mexicanos, unos más Mexicanos que otros... Pffff . Un ejemplo, los estados del norte, Nuevo León, Sonora, Chihuahua, B.C. Norte y Sur ...Creen que se identifican con los Aztecas!?? En fin, nuestro pueblo es un mozaico muy diverso. Oaxaca no tiene nada que ver con Zacatecas, por decir solo un ejemplo. Nuestro territorio es tan basto. Una vez vez escuche a un intelectual preguntarse y responder...que es lo que nos une pues!???La bandera? Nuestra piel bronceada? Etc etc... Concluyó ( yo creo por abiurrimiento, o por que se yo.. y dijo, Nos une la tortilla de maiz...! Será?, o será la cultura o la resistencia de ella misma que nos hace diferente. No lo sé. El caso es que no se la quiebren compás. Uds ( brazeros, Chicanos, emigrantes, Pochos, Bolillos, o como mala forma de decirles, ( a nosotros nos dicen Chilangos... Y nos odian, creo ya no, jejejeje ( por cierto el 80 por cientos de los capitalinos, está formado de gente de provincia, osea México,se odia a si mismo?), en fin no se la quiebren hermanos. LO QUE HACE GRANDE A MÉXICO SON ESAS PEQUEÑAS Y MUY GRANDES DIFERENCIAS!!!! Viva México Cabrones allá en Gringolandia, acá en Chilangolandia, allá en Jalisco, allá en Oaxaca, en Chiapas, en Puebla, en Zacatecas, en Veracruz ( en donde a llegado TODO!!!) VIVA MEXICO CABRONES!!!!❤❤❤❤
I agree on the clip from Selena movie. I’ve experienced that so many times I’m a 60 year old woman and I’ve gone to Mexico and I feel that way and I love hearing United States and I feel that way too.
I love that expression "Twitter Fingers". I think Superholly talked about this once as well at least I think it was her. She grew up in both Mexico and the States. She said when she went to school people would often root against her labeling her U.S. so when she would lose a game they would say Mexico won etc.
Mexico/US relations and rivalry has been there for centuries so it’s no surprise of the Mexican reaction to these young musicians with Mexican roots and a US education.
Thank you guys for this video. Love your travels & experiences. I was born & raised in Texas and have been dealing with this my whole life even to this day. Im 40 years old and even at work I see discrimination to the chicanos who don’t speak Spanish here in Texas. I love Mexico and visit often but even when I’m there I have a fear of speaking Spanish because I feel I will get taken advantage of because I don’t speak if properly. I am proud of my roots but the Selena movie said it best….it’s exhausting 😂 sometimes being mexican American. Shout Out to Chicago… my dad born in Mexico/raised in Chicago and moved to Texas where he met my mom. Much love & blessings to you guys!
Polish Americans are different from Poles. Chicanos are different from Mexicans. In Polish, grandmother is Babcia, most Polish Americans use Busia. You might be surprised how much this small thing causes a schism. How can anyone criticize you guys that have shown so much love and respect to your heritage and Motherland? You have done so much to educate people about the beautiful country of Mexico. People are crazy. Interesting discussion.
thanks for sharing the Polish American example. I know there are many people out there who can resonate with this in even small ways, though like @chacmool2581 pointed out, there's another layer to this that complicates things
The dynamics between Chicanos and Mexicans are much different than the dynamics between Polish Americans and Poles. For one, Chicanos and Mexicans aren't separated by an ocean and a continent; Chicanos and Mexicans live side-by-side as friends, neighbors, and are often members of the same family and the same household. Second, both cross the border daily, interacting with each other daily, in millions of transactions, both economic and social. In fact, Chicanos and Mexicans are so much more alike than Polish Americans and Poles that the Mexican government considers that the Mexican nation is no longer limited to its borders, but is in fact a "transterritorial nation" that encompasses both Mexicans in Mexico and Mexicans and Mexican-Americans in the US. On top of that, Mexicans in northern Mexico have adopted many of the words of the Spanish that has evolved in the US from Mexicans and Mexican-Americans, such as "lonche," "troca," and "parqueadero." However, I do agree with your last comment. Most of the criticism comes from central and southern Mexicans, who don't have that constant interaction with Chicanos, like the Mexicans of the North do.
Chicanos are different than regular Mexican-Americans. Chicanos are a subculture similar to the Black Panther/power movement. Richard "Cheech" Marin was a Chicano, his father was an LAPD officer was a Mexican-American. Not all Mexican-Americans (if not most) like being called Chicano. Rejecting American assimilation and embracing indigenous identity are part of its core.
I remember I was in Matamoros, MX and the police had stopped us. And asked if we was mexican and we said yes. And they asked us if we was born in Mexico and we said "No" and they said we weren't mexican. We were not born there. And this has always stood in my mind. It's true I'm not mexican I am a Mexican-American. I was born in Chicago and I'm proud of my heritage. But a lot of mexicans call us pochos, gringos and so on. 😅😅😅😅😅
Gosh, they make it so confusing. The Mexican constitution clearly states that Mexicans born abroad to Mexican parents are still Mexican and have a right to citizenship. It’s not automatic, they have to claim it via some paperwork, but it’s true. We’re just a different kind of Mexican!
Thank you for sharing this. This really hit home today. I've learned today people lie and the truth gets lost on social media, it's easy to distort the truth. People only want to hate. 😢 Bad news sells, as Canadians we don't see racism often. Wow you guys nailed it today. God bless you and your families. We love Mexico the people the culture everything about it. The family values they have not lost. ❤️🇲🇽
Born in south Texas 1953. My grandfather came from Monterrey N.L.. My father was born here. I spoke basic Spanish before entering the public school system where speaking Spanish on school grounds was punished with swats to the butt with a paddle. Served in the U.S. Navy for one enlistment in the early 1970s during Vietnam. Luckily I stayed stateside with naval aviation. Proudly served. Honorably discharged. Providing for my family took a lot of my time and sadly I did not pay enough attention to my culture so I could pass it on. I have always been aware of the struggles any minority, black, brown or any other non-white. On any endeavor one undertakes you should prepare yourself as best you can. These young men should have been made aware of the situation they were going to be in.. In the original Selena Movie, her father warned Selena about how the media and the public could turn on her. All human beings regardless of country of origin are too quick to put someone else down. These young men should be given a break for not being aware. Hopefully this is not a crash and burn event for them. Maybe their promoters were only seeing dollar signs and not these boys future. I hope these fellas recover and go on with their music careers.
K These kids came out with their arrogant attitude instead of study and Respect the place you are going to visit. You don't disrespect where you are going to visit. You don't disrespect the homeowner, whether you Visit a house or any Country. If you ask me the parents are 100% responsible for the way were brought up.
This group sings regional mexican, which has nothing to do with race. If you're going to sing regional mexican and in México, then be prepared to answer questions in spanish; most of that audience's primary language is spanish. In my opinion, it wouldn't be a big problem if they were from another genre. Also, the group are mexican descendants, not mexican-born. There's a difference. Bueno cambiando de tema. El sábado pasado, mi novia y yo fuimos a un restaurante y en la televisión estaban emitiendo vídeos de regional mexicano. Entonces ella me preguntó por qué los hombres de este género tienen sobrepeso y son poco atractivos. La miré y le dije que no tenía ni idea; la señora sentada en la mesa de al lado nos oyó. Le sonreí y asentí con la cabeza; mi novia se avergonzó y dijo que iba al lavabo. Esta señora me preguntó la muñequita es argentina. Le contesté no, es uruguaya; ella se sonrió. Saludos de México hoy viernes 25/08/2023 🤘🏻😈🤘🏻
Lol gracias por el anécdota.. Estoy de acuerdo con tu novia 🤭 aprovecho para aclarar una cosita.. en este video mencionamos el racismo en contra los indígenas que se mostró en los memes que se crearon a base de este asunto.. no es racismo en contra los chamacos si no en contra al gente indígena por usarlos como insulto
A poco existe Uruguay?🤣Sarcasmo. País de KK apenas tiene una extensión territorial de 68,037 millas cuadradas y 3.426 millones de habitantes. Deberías BOTARLA por que si ya se expresó mal de algunos mexicanos imaginate cuando vea indígenas mexicanos.
I also don’t hear much about the prejudice within Mexico against darker skin toned Mexicans, but have heard about it’s prevalence first hand from a darker skin toned Mexican living in Oaxaca city. Would love to hear more on this topic.
I am darker skinned but my brother is "whiter looking" and he was always gushed over his "good looks" for looking more European. It is common in our culture.
it's a sensitive topic, for sure and deserves more attention. We're building up the courage and experience by talking about what we feel confident in and hopefully someday can touch more on those topics
Love your videos because you're always so relatable! My parents immigrated to the US before I was born and never had the opportunity to bring me back to visit. I moved to Mexico a few years ago and it was my 1st time truly experiencing the culture and way of life. I've posted videos on my Tiktok of some culture shocks that I've encountered (as well as things I love, way of life, etc). I've gotten some hateful comments from people calling me a "white wash b****," "foreign invader." etc. I hate when people categorize you as "real mexican" or "fake mexican." Makes no sense. Regarding Yahritza and Su Esencia's remarks, I blame lack of media training, as you said.
what a great video my heart breaks every time for all the immigrants that leave mexico for survival and can’t take the fruits of their labor back to mexico when they wish because if immigration status this changes the nature and nurture of the offspring in a way nobody will understand u less u are the first generation like us chicanos ❤❤❤❤❤
I’m a retired music teacher and am blown away by Yahritza, not just her singing but her songwriting skills at such a young age. She has a very rare gift and if what they say is true, that she taught herself how to sing, write and play guitar, then she is a force of nature. She wrote her song Soy El Único at the age of 13. I don’t listen to regional Mexican music as I’m more of a Chente and Luis Miguel kind of gal, but Yahritza’s talent has me listening to everything she has composed up to now. She also has song writing credits on Frágil and Las Flores, both of which are beautiful songs. I want her to continue writing and growing as a musician. She could be one of the greats in the future and I will support her because of her talent.
@@EatBailaTravel yes of course! I taught middle and high school and know at that age kids don’t always know how to act and you have to try to cultivate the good that is there. I seriously haven’t seen talent like this on a long time and I think it would be a shame if Mexico rejects her. Thank you for the response.
Bravo !! Love this episode And thank you🙏🏻 many artist from Mexico like Thalia or Alejandra G. They said b4 they don’t like Mexico for the delinquency , so what ? Not a big deal, others for the smoke or the noise snd no one make such a big deal 🤷🏻♂️ Leave the children alone! She is only 16 And have a great voice 🙌🏻
There are "fresas" in México that would have similar reactions (scoff at soda in a baggie too) Also, there are lots of Mexicans who hate Banda and Norteño music, and look down on those genres.
I believe they are innocent. They were not prepared answer the questions it was pure honesty. Many Mexicans also do not like certain foods or the way of life of the U.S. if they really never traveled and were not exposed it is not their fault. Its innocence.
That's how I see it too. They had no idea what a lion's den they were walking into and their management failed to prepare them for the press. Now anything they say will be misconstrued to make them look worse and the bullying will continue. People suck.
Believe me I was always cultured shocked going to Mexico. I was home sick and my language it's Spanglish. They are proud being Mexican but they are in Washington they are hard workers. We need to support each other no matter what our culture needs to become more accepting.
@@monicaramirez584 I completely support them. I saw how devastated their parents were about the bullying and felt exactly the same way as a mother. Yes they should have been more tactful but that’s no excuse for how they are being treated.
I grew up in and around Barrio Logan in San Diego, born to a LARGE Mexican family on my mothers side. I'm second generation Mexican and 4th generation Irish on my fathers side. I'll admit I got a little bit triggered when you guys were talking about that fight in 1996, flooded by so many memories...that word, pocha... still hurts. All my life I was never fully accepted in the neighborhoods. I looked too much like my father, white. I think all the comments I received as a young, sensitive, girl growing up made me feel like I'd never fit in anywhere. I still feel that way. I wonder if that's part of why I worked really hard to perfect my Spanish...And people are always shocked it's so good, like because of my face I shouldn't speak it without an accent. You can't win. It was very strange too being all at once told I needed to hold strong to my roots, speak Spanish without and accent, then being praised for my fairness and watching my mother bleach her skin and hair doing her very best impression of Kelly Bundy
I am similar to you, except I am Welsh/Peruvian - you accept you, I know I don't want to be anyone else and I love me and every part about it - you sound like a great person and has a strong sense of identity but I must say it took awhile to get there myself but here I am. Still, what helped is that most people who make these kind of negative comments are arseholes and I wouldn't pay any more credence to what they think than a barking dog.
As a Chicano, MX is the motherland, The US is The homeland, and Spain is the deadbeat Father that wants nothing to do with us all lol, He spends more time with his other child Argentina. 😄
"Do you guys like Mexican food?" lmao, I've been asked that as well but here in the U.S. Insane how easily perception shifts. Overall I would agree with your viewpoints on the situation.
I agree, they need media training. They could have made it big in Mexico but they are naive and when they were called out on it they chose arrogance. Mexicans (in Mexico) don’t understand the struggles of immigrants in the US and I agree they see us as less than. If they only knew that success in the US isn’t a guarantee and that we don’t get “tierras” inherent to us - we buy them.
it makes me sad to see our people divided. Maybe in the future we could share more chicano/immigrant stories to try to bring people together.. would it work? idk
I don't see any arrogance in them, but that may be because I am more Americanized than many. Can you tell me why Mexico thinks they are arrogant? I only felt sorry for them because I saw them as unprepared for interviews with the media.
@@ba8898 it’s not the same thing, let’s use your case as an example, if those six Mexicans went to the US and made it big with a band, but then started criticizing the US, food, history and culture and language and The same criticism will follow.🤷🏻♂️
I understand feeling offend by not liking the food (though it’s an opinion, who cares), but the comment on Mexico City being noisy isn’t a comment on Mexico? It’s a comment on living in one of the biggest metropolitan areas. It’s hard to sleep at night, pointing that out isn’t disrespectful, some people (INCLUDING MEXICANS) like space and quiet. Every culture/group will have gate keepers and this is one that I’ve had to ignore my whole life living in the US (planning on moving to SLP).
Yea, goes to show you how people just went completely overboard with their reactions to such silly comments. Cool that you’re moving to SLP! I’m curious why you chose there?
Good topic for you guys! I've been getting annoyed at the memes too. It's clear that for a lot of people, if you're dark skinned, you should know your place and that means not speaking English or eating what you like apparently.
I was born in Mexico lived in Los Angeles all my life personally I thought it was dumb what they said, What I've seen if you insult Mexico the culture and the food that's really bad specially the Mexican cuisine its one of the best in the world. and what's happening is not racism they (knowing or not knowing) offended Mexico & the Mexican people. example same thing is happening to Pepe Aguilar's Daughter. Angela Aguilar during the World Cup she said that she had some Argentinian blood in her, and she was sheering for Argentina when they played Mexico and now she's not feeling arenas even her dad tried to apologize and its not working. the sad part for these kids if Mexico doesn't accept them back they won't make it. These is not RACISM they insulted the Mexican people and the culture that all. And since you been there you know Mexicans don't hold back they say what they are thinking. and unfortunately in the states any criticism its Racist. and I saw there apology and there apology was fake in my opinion. life is about decisions one bad decision can ruin you. please don't say that Mexico is Racist these kids messed up... Our culture in the USA(and I live here in the US) everything you say do its Racist in Mexico its not like that you should know by now
@@andygonzalez3939 It’s not about getting butt hurt here is we’re couture comes in. For me I didn’t care what they said and that’s how we are here in the USA people in the us criticize the US burn the US flag 🇺🇸 say these country is racist we’re the Flag as shirts underwear table cloths stomp on it and most of us don’t care because in the US that’s permissible you can criticize anything and everyone gives you a pass that’s how we are in the US. Try using the Mexican flag 🇲🇽 as shorts bikinis burn it whatever and you might get arrested you criticize the Country, Food and there the way they live that doesn’t fly there it’s coa
The culture in Mexico 🇲🇽 very different then here in the states and people will speak there mind. Don’t know if you heard a tourist was in Dubai and the lady raised her voice only didn’t hit nobody just screaming at someone and she got arrested any were we visit let’s be respectful to the people there and respect there culture and focus on the good and few people are as welcoming as the Mexican people. People that said crap to these Kids they were not Butt hurt they were pissed off. For most of us in the US we didn’t care we probably took it as something dumb and or stupid they said!! We’re ever we go let’s Respect the Culture of that country
@@richardcelaya8605 I'm not defending Yahritza, I get that they may have come off as condescending but I just don't think it warranted this extreme response. Especially the fact that our paisas used this as an excuse to generalize a whole group of people, which did kind of tick me off because I'm Mexican American. If y'all want to talk about Yahritza, talk about them, but don't bring other people that had nothing to do with this.
Mexico City is the largest city in the world... it has EVERYTHING a person could want... My friends and I went to a restaurant in Mexico City whose name I forget...BUT their napkins have a black and white cow on them... It was a large bizzy place on cinqo or just off it...... full to capacity... we had breakfast and then started on beers... and before we knew it had turned into lunchtime... we were never rushed... we asked for menus and had lunch there late into the afternoon...... again we were never rushed ... the food was awesome and so was our waitress.. only In Mexico City can such a great experience happen... . ... Noise? what noise? I was in the worlds largest city loving it for being what it is... Next stop was Caoyacan.... Fridas house.. I think those children are kids dealing with some fame without a manager to guide them... someone should step up to the plate...
we just moved to Mexico City and have lots of mixed emotions about it! planning on making it the topic of our next video. We will be on the lookout for that restaurant with the black and white cow on the napkins 😁
Both of you hit the nail on the head. As a Mexican-American I’ve had family members criticize me for my ‘lack’ of Mexican culture and how I sometimes mispronounce certain words in Spanish. Which has hurt me deeply. I pride myself on being multicultural and bilingual, so when another Mexican tells me I’m not Mexican enough it makes me feel like I don’t belong anywhere. I really resonate with the Selena movie scene because as Mexican-Americans we do have to be twice as perfect.
The grey shirt is the softest material just fyi ;) I used to have it in white and I wore the heck out of it, stained it and needed a new one so I tried the grey. The black one was also soft. Anyway, thanks for your support! Wear it proudly! 🤗❤️🇺🇸🇲🇽
Yo ni sabia de la existencia de estos jóvenes. Pero escuchando lo que dijeron no me parece ofensivo. Creo que es la manera en que lo expresaron. Siento pena por ellos y su ignorancia. En fin, mis mejores deseos para estos jóvenes mexico-americano.
Estos días la gente ya no se promociona así. La gente los hace famosos en el internet. Y los chamacos no dijeron que que no les gustaba mexico dijeron que no les gustaba la Ciudad de México. Pero pues ya todo mundo lo interpreto como quiso.
Do it like me, while in Mexico, I spoke in English to my nephew who doesn't speak enough Spanish. Somebody told me "Ya se te olvido el espanol?" in a very sarcastic way, I just told him, "Chinga tu madre buey!" Problem solved.
We were all in Mexico when the little Ethiopian boy who loved quesadillas and wanted to be Mexican became a national treasure and was on the news and Mexican people and the media were very positive about him and liked the popular saying by Chavela Vargas 'Mexicans are born wherever they please' but yeah, they're kids and we all say and do daft things as kids or I know I did - as for yourselves - you're Mexican citizens - you are legally entitled to run for political office - if anyone questions your Mexican identity just point to the law that says they're wrong. I am sure there are Mexican-Americans who will never take out Mexican citizenship and find themselves more American than Mexican but that aint you. I am British but have Peruvian citizenship and my Spanish isn't stellar and when people have criticised my Spanish abilities - I go 'yeah, but my Quechua is amazing' unless I am in the Sierra - they're knowledge of Quechua is going to be the same as mine! 🤣 a good point that can be discussed is should Spanish be a yardstick of being Mexican or Peruvian or whatever when it is the language of the conqueror of those lands and was forcibly implemented on the native peoples? Especially when a lot of those people cannot speak the indigenous languages or even worse - look down on them?
Lol I like your lighthearted approach to your identity. I agree, spanish ability shouldn't be a determinant for one's identity. And, that kid was adorable, but man we give the internet too much power
As a Chicano I feel the same way as you guys do. I didn’t like their comments, but the overreaction is kinda ridiculous. Also, it’s important to mention that they’re not city kids. Their family is from rural Michoacán, and they grew up in rural Washington. This context is important to understand why they didn’t seem to like Mexico City as much
I went to a sold out Yahritza show here in San Antonio a few months back. The reality is, this issue isn't that serious, it just tends to catch headlines on social media and people run with it. In the real world, they have fans and people dont't care all that much about a comment about not liking food. It serves as an example of how the internet can make up issues and make them seem bigger than what they are, but in reality, it isnt a huge deal.
Yo estoy de acuerdo con ustedes dos, nosotros llevamos a nuestos hijos a Guatemala por primera ves. y fue un gran shock de cultura. Por mucho que uno trate de esplicar como es no es lo mismo ir experimentarlo en persona. Ellos hasta se enfermaron del estomago y yo también. No se pudo ser le differencia en el agua no se. Pero el punto es que ellos se quejaron de lo mismo el ruido y la comida pero quieren ir otra vez y vamos a ir otra vez ahora que tenemos los recursos para ir. La differencia es que mis hijos me lo diejieron a mi y no en cámara para que lo vieran miles de personas y los esplique a ellos que esta bien pero se van a tener que acostumbrar porque ahora vamos a ir todos los anos para que amprendan mas del la cultura. En fin yo los miro a ellos como si fueran mis hijos, les dirían que aprendan de sus errores y que sigan adelante.
@@EatBailaTravel en vez de amenasarlos de que nunca regresen a Mexico deverian de motivarlos a que regresen mas seguido para que aprendan mas a apreciar la cultura. No estoy de acuerdo de como se espressaron en la entrivista pero para alguien quien dice que son personas apprecian su cultura no la estan represantando de buena manera con tratar de destruirlos en ves de levantarlos. Pero cada quien con su manera de pensar.
As a Mexican/American who grew up at my grandparents in Sonora as a child. Coming from Mexican immigrant parents I can relate. When I went back to Mexico in the mid 2000s to live with my grandparents . Check this out Spanish is my first language. In Mexico when people found out I was from Arizona some would call me,”eres una pocha”! Que haces aquí. My nana would yelled at the bullies and defend me. Here in the U.S especially during Trump’s presidency. I had white folks tell me when they would hear me speak Spanish. “Go back to Mexico”😂 I was like WTF! I was born here dude lol Ni de aquí ni de allá. I would say this tho. In the last 10 years I have seen a positive change when it comes to Mexicans and Mexican/Americans our relationship between us improving. Don’t want to get into politics but I feel like Trumps racism has United Latinos in general. A lot of younger Mexicans I have noticed going to Mexico , on social media and after George Floyd. That people are finally realizing that divide and conquer is not the way to go. Like I said in the last 10 years I haven’t had any Mexican when I go to Mexico use that term. I also think that the president of Mexico AMLO has United Mexicans in general. At the end of the day was it dumb what those kids said yes. They are better ways to say things. At the same time not everyone has to like a certain type of food. Last time I checked Mexico is a free country. People can like whatever the hell they want. El Que se enoja pierde. These conversations are important to keep having. Keep up the great work guys❤ Saludos de Arizona✌️
If somebody does not speak spanish in speak English. I do not say I preferre Speak Spanish I feel more comfortable. You speak the language according to the situation.
I think they're young rural kids from a very quiet area in the Pacific Northwest who were suddenly thrust into one of the largest most vibrant cities in the world & it overwhelmed them a little. Also it's natural for people to love the food from the area they grew up in. But I also respect the Mexican people's reaction. You have to defend your home. I asked you guys via Insta if you thought the Mexican food in Chicago was better than San Diego & you said Yes. My Mexican friends here in San Diego think that's crazy. And another guy from New Jersey said the Mexican food there is the best. There's no right or wrong answer. I'm from London & think the Indian & Jamaican food in London is the best. Just human nature. Keep up the great work.
Lol, then we need to visit San Diego and you need to tell us your favorite Mexican food spots! And we will make a video talking about Mexican food in San Diego vs Chicago and see who comes out on top. You're right, there's no right answer, but it's still fun to explore! 😁
Thank you for attempting to explain something only Mexican Americans understand. I've live through the Chicano movement and proudly call myself Chicana. To add to your research there is Linda Ronstadt and Vickie Carr who sang in Spanish but were not fluent in Spanish. To acculturate is sometimes a survival thing only those that have to do it understand. I taught my self to read and write Spanish. I love Mexico and I want to go and live there but I also know I am not Mexican enough. These kids are being bullied, that's all. It sad that the President of Mexico got into the controversy and bullied the kids. Understanding cultural difference and embracing humanity is the key. ❤
I am 10generation from Texas I'm CHICANO AMERICANO and proud my family has fought and served in every war to defend my beautiful united states we brought horses cattle religion the first cowboys our familias we had to stop gringo's from murdering our familias community's to fight for our rights to vote I don't have family in Mexico but I enjoy going on vacation but Im not going to try to tell them to speak English you have to be respectful and when they come here why don't they try to speak English
for me it wasn't that they didn't like Mexican food in mex is fine. It's the interview where she is admonishing the interviewer for speaking to her in Spanish. And in other interviews where she makes faces when asked about mex. especially since their whole fan base speaks Spanish and they sing in Spanish and gotta rich from it😮
I’m glad you brought this topic for discussion. I am a Chicana as well, and have been planning on coming to Mexico to live. I often think of what kind of channel I want to open (Spanish vs English) once I establish myself in Mexico 🇲🇽. Although I would have more revenue from opening an English Channel, and help other Chicanos with the process of dual citizenship, struggles and what not, I think Spanish would be better as it makes more sense to speak the language in the country I am residing at. Again, this is just my humble opinion. As for these kids, I agree that they lack the importance of embracing the Mexican culture. If they want to be considered in the “Mexican culture “. They have to speak and sing to their target audience. On the other hand, yeah they have a say in what language they want or need to speak, but again, they have to take into consideration their audience/ spectators.
Why not make videos in both languages? I’m a Mexican American and have no problems in any of the countries, but maybe because I can represent both well. I don’t know.
we've been wanting to post videos in both languages for a long time, but haven't figured out the best way to execute it. A second channel? Filming the same video twice in each language? We tried this one but it's not sustainable for us. It's been a struggle. UA-cam is working on rolling out a feature that allows you to upload an additional audio file to offer dubbed options in other languages - the catch is you still need to make the audio file yourself. We tried doing it for this video but we don't have the feature available yet.
This is an interesting topic and is very common all over the world. There are millions of Turkish-Germans, for example, who say the same thing: in Germany they are considered Turks, in Turkey they are (negatively) seen as Germans. I had the positive experience when I immigrated to the US, I was 30 years old, to be accepted as an American in the US. Probably, because the US always has been a country of immigrants. In my home country, though, my former neighbors called me a traitor. Mexicans, as I noticed, are fiercly patriotic, I would say even much more than Americans. So I am not surprised that this incident here created a shitstorm. I called a good friend of mine, who was born in Mexico and grew up and lives in the US, very brave, when she went to an US-Mexico soccer game and proudly waved the US flag. That is the experience of normal people who happen to be "at home" in two countries. Now, when it comes to "public people," like this band, things get way more complicated. What could be seen as innocent comments on food and urban environment in Mexico City became scandalous. As Jenny said, they obviously lack any media experience. Unfortunately, what you can say privately is not always fit for public statements. That may be sad, but it is a fact. If you want to be a celebrity, you need to be aware of these things. I think their comments were pretty stupid and now they receive the reward. And yes, that all shows the shallowness of the "internet generation." The same people criticizing this band probably will stand in line in CDMX for Starbucks and McDo and not even think about it. Welcome to the "you tube world."
well said, amigo! Did you immigrate to the US from a European country? I'm glad you were accepted as an immigrant. I wish that same sense of welcome was common for immigrants from non-European countries 😏
@@EatBailaTravel Yes, I came from Western Europe. But actually, most legal immigrants in the US nowadays come from Asia, Europe contributes only a relatively small number. But I am grateful to be here - and as you know, now am thinking of retiring in Mexico :D
You are more acquainted with various classes in Mexico than I am and I think you are probably right about this. My familiarity with Mexico comes from books and UA-cam channels. My wife is Salvadoran so I understand ES culture more. We are planning travel to Mexico in the coming year. Your videos have provided much valued information and insight. Thank you for responding to my comment. Stephen
The snowflakes that are getting all riled up about their comments need to calm down! These are kids, and their complaints were nonsensical and minor but again they are kids! Canadian here, lived and worked in Mexico for nearly 5 years, absolutely love the place, the culture and the people. Are their problems in Mexico, of course like anywhere else!! but there are a lot of positives too. My question is whose is giving advice to these kids, they should have been prepped for this tour and interviews, who ever that person is, they should be fired ASAP.
They need to learn how to be humble that's what people hate I grew up in Monterrey but I teach my kids to be humble and never put other cultures down even though they are born Mexican Americans so let's not make excuses they acted arrogant and thats unfortunate for them hope they learn from their mistakes God bless and take care
General rule is not to insult the country/state/or city that you are visiting or catering to. It is just common sense and is illustrated in just about every public event "good to be here in the 'fine' 'great' city of [insert name here] " or similar verbiage. The last video was imo also very rude. Prior to Jenny mentioning the movie Selena, I thought of the scene where she was doing the interview and spoke in English. Difference is that she spoke positive about MX. This group would do good to watch and learn from that movie. Lastly, who doesn't want to be woken up at 7am to the recording of "se compran colchones, tambores, refrigeradores..."
Common sense to adults. Also kids in the USA especially are brought up these days to say whatever they want and respect is just not a thing to so many!!
Its interesting to me i am Amerindian my family is from the Americas. Although we are Anasazi and Maya, to name a couple. In the US the narrative is that I and people who look like me are African and we are not. When i heard that they compared these chidren to Indigenous Mexicans, and it was meant as an insult- yet these are some of the same people saying they should honor their culture ??!!? Make that make sense. Indigenous Americans- North, Central and South of precolonial era were coppered colored people with phenotypes displayed throughout Mexico's sacred places, muesums, ect. How can looking like the people of the land be preceived as an insult. Seems like their is healing and perhaps education needed, in both the US, and Mexico.
Nice try but ignorance is not a defense in the 21st century, they should have done their research. I’m from CA and my parents are from Mexico and I blocked Yaritza bc of this
Totally understandable. Everyone is free to consume or not consume their work. They lost your patronage for dumb things they said and that’s fair. I think other people took it too far with the name calling and racialized insults.
Most importantly was the attitude, major point with every sine they just started out and had a public image to uphold as such. If they were not holding such standards as a regular person then the comments would be long forgotten in a sea of everyday life.
Seriously, though, what are your thoughts on all this? 🤔
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Yo soy Mexicano que nacio en Loos Angeles California en uno de los estados Mexicanos bajo una ocupacion illegal de los yankees. Viva La Reunificasion de los estados bajo la ocupacion. Viva Mexico !
Yo cuando tenia la eda de esos chamacos yo no era tan menso como ellos. Yo me ubiera porrado bien y dicho puras cosas bonitas de Mexico. Si ellos son tan tarados entonces no se meresen la fama ni la gloria.
Actually there is a video where she is in denial of speaking Spanish and that is not cool
Realmente me sorprende cómo la gente puede ser tan crítica con Yahritza y Su Esencia por simplemente ser honestos y responder una pregunta de manera sincera. ¿Acaso no es esto lo que se espera cuando se hace una pregunta? Si solo queremos respuestas que nos agraden o que sean completamente positivas, ¿cuál es el propósito de pedir opiniones? Es natural que cada persona tenga sus propias experiencias y percepciones, y eso no significa que no aprecien la cultura o el país. Criticarlos por simplemente expresar su sentir muestra una falta de madurez de parte del público. Si no estamos preparados para escuchar respuestas sinceras, mejor no deberíamos hacer la pregunta. Es triste ver cómo la sociedad actual se ofende por todo y cómo muchos buscan razones para quejarse en lugar de entender y respetar las opiniones ajenas.
@@BlueKrait1 Muy bien dicho
Great discussion y'all! As a third generation Mexican-American Tejana, all I can say is the kids probably need to work on their PR skills OR they're going to become the next "one hit wonder". Also, they don't represent all of the Chicanos just like Justin Bieber doesn't represent all Canadians. And look at all the stuff he did.. just saying.
yup! and it will be interesting to see what ends up happening with their career
Nah bro, im 3rd generation American-Mexican too, and what they said ain’t acceptable. People be shitting on mexico all the time and to have Mexican-Americans talking sht about the food, the language, the capital city and acceptable. They shouldve known better
@freedomaboveallll But how does sharing opinions about which food you prefer equal talking shit about a whole country? You don’t think that’s kind of a stretch? I agree, they should have known better, but I also think the hate has been too much
@@freedomaboveallll tell this to people with food/ dairy allergies. I myself have roots in Durango, Guerrero, Sinaloa and Zacatecas (1st generation, before you come for my Mexicanidad) and cannot eat a large number of dishes from throughout Mexico because of how prevalent dairy is, but I still enjoy most comida Guerrerense because that's what I grew up eating but also because of the abundance of plant foods there, it can be adapted for vegans pretty easily. Mexico isn't a monolith and the cuisine varies by region.
@@EatBailaTravel EBT. I agree but these musician kids are on a negative streak of errors because they criticized, Mexican language, food, noise, and the way they serve drinks. They’re in desperate need of a PR cleanup person, Que no?
Saludos a ustedes, 😊
I grew up in the Pacific Northwest. The mexican population wasn't that big 10 years ago. I agree with them. I grew up speaking both languages. But English became my first language. I often got English and Spanish mixed up. Often speaking English with a Spanish dialect. I'm not American enough for here. Because they have an outlook on us being a "certain way." People ask me where I was born. I told them I was born and raised here in the pnw. They look at me like I'm lying to them and make me feel like wow you think you're better than " But on the other hand, when I was growing up I went to Michocan to visit family. I got called out for being a white washed mexican. And when I spoke Spanish, I would get made fun of. To the point I would get shy and feel inferior. It made me put me into overdrive to where I took Spanish and advanced to college even in high school. But today, I associate with my mexican side more them my American side. Yes, I'm proud to be an American, but in some cases, people think you have money or you think that you are better than them. I have family who was born in the us, and they act like this. It's sad we lost communication with them. I'm sorry for the longggggg comment. But this really hits home
Wow, no don’t apologize, these are exactly the kinds of comments we want to read ❤️🥺 so few understand what it’s like to grow up like this. We can relate, and so many other people can, too
Look at the darn pakistanis, indians, middleeasterns, orientals they dont have time for the BS you are expressing or confused about identity they come to america to work and thay is it just cut this nonsense u are american and get to work and prosper!!!!!
I'm Mexican-American, and I will say that I used to be the same way. I was super prejudiced against my own people. Especially if you were from the southern part of Mexico. I would look down on them and even make fun of them because of their accent. This is something that I'm not proud of at all, and I was also very immature at the time. I love America 🇺🇸 but I've also learned to Love my Mexican culture! I said all this to so say one thing and that's that these kids are immature and haven't learned to filter what they speak!
Saludos desde Honduras de un Texano de papa's mexicanos.
You are Mexican
Don't be proud of being American. America took half of Mexico's territory and continues to be a enemy of mexico. You're either Mexico first or America first. I'm Mexico first. We have no need for malinchistas.
We’re also assuming their parents had a positive experience in Mexico. Some of our parents left Mexico at a young age and with resentment, so some kids weren’t raised and encouraged to reconnect with their Mexican roots.
so true! we really don't know what kind of situation their parents come from. People just jump to opinions and conclusions without the full picture
Nope, as an immigrant from México, I can tell some parents raised their kids to hate Mexican immigrants. Even relatives.
@@EatBailaTravelthen why bother going into a regional mexican genre if they resent Mexico so much? Makes no sense.
I never heard anybody put it that way, I couldn’t agree more. I came from the racho at the age of 16, dealing with many emotions at the time, anger and confusion due to the financial situation I was dealing with at the time. For years I felt some sort of resentment towards the place where I was born. Now that I’m almost 40, I understand that God always has a purpose in our lives so I’m really grateful for everything that has happened in my life.
Our parents come to the US and they are trying to survive, often working more than 40 hrs per week. As a result, the entire family is on survival mode; children doing HW on our own, translating for parents, filling out legal documents at a young age, etc. Our parents do not have the luxury to teach us to appreciate our culture. Therefore the culture is diminished and lost because everyone is busy trying to survive and assimilate to the US culture. Also, like Kevin pointed out, all of us have various access levels to resources in the US, I am thinking these kids do not have a access to the world and culture outside of Washington. I personally did not try different foods until I had my own career, well into my mid-20s because I couldn’t afford that luxury.
As a fellow Mexican-American or American of Mexican decent, I love your channel and appreciate both of your insight and videos ❤
The other part is that the parents themselves may have felt victimized by a "culture" that excluded, alienated, ostracized, discarded or oppressed them, a culture that never gave them a real fighting chance. Therefore, they may not feel particularly compelled to transmit that same "culture" to their offspring.
@@chacmool2581 This part! Especially if they present as more Indigenous or Afro.
yes, thank you for elaborating on the impact of living in survival mode 🥺 appreciate your comment and support for our channel ❤️
Y mientras tanto los gringos vienen a México a hacerse ricos con la mano en la cintura.
SOMOS MUY ORGULLOSOS DE NUESTRA CULTURA Y SI NO LES GUSTA ESTA BIEN. PERO NO NOS USEN PARA SU BENEFICIO TAMPOCO😊
It’s a real shame what happened. Mexico is Mexico 🇲🇽 and the USA is the USA. Different set of rules. For the bands sake, hopefully they put out a sincere apology, get a public relations manager and never try to pull the Fresa 🍓 💩 again. Because let’s be real that’s what hurt.
Maricela entendemos que los mexicanos somos orgullos de nuestra cultura. Pero los chamacos estaban hablando de la Ciudad de México pero la gente lo mal interpretó como todo Mexico. Nosotros conocemos muchísima gente mexicana que habla mal de la Ciudad de México, de su gente y la comida. Tampoco no hay ignorar que eso pasa.
THE MONEY IT IN MEXICO. OK NO IN EU. FOR YARITZO😅😅😅
WHAT IS YOU PROBLEM? NO WELCOM IN MEXICO NOT MORE...
VOY A TERMINAR CON ESTO DICIENDOLES: #1 SU MUSICA ES BUENA #2 ELLA CANTA MUY BIEN #3 ESTA EN SU DERECHO DE CANTAR DONDE QUIERA...AQUI LO MALO ES QUE NO TUVO UN MANAGER QUE LA ORIENTARA DE QUE CIERTAS COSAS NO SE DICEN EN CIERTOS PAISES. TODOS PODEMOS HACER QUE MEXICO ENTIENDA, PERO ELLOS NO, DOS DE ELLOS SON MUY JOVENES Y NO ENTIENDEN QUE" A DONDE QUIERA QUE FUERES, HAS LO QUE VIERES" LOS QUE LOS ENTREVISTARON DEBIERON GUIARLOS.
Nothing wrong with not liking the food. Everyone is different. We need to embrace differences of opinions, even though I think Mexican food is absolutely incredible.
these kids expressed an honest opinion to the wrong audience..
What are the odds that someone likes Mexican food more in the US than in Mexico, 1 in 100,000?
@@EatBailaTravelSO YOU MEAN TO SAY THAT JUST ABOUT 90% OF MEXICANS ARE WRONG, PLEASE BE REAL
Really? chicken wings better than mexican food?Con esa mancha de chile chipotle y niegan de sus raices.
@@Papogonz Some children are plain eaters they do not care. Not everyone is passionate of Mexican food.
Not that long ago I had an individual tell me "I wish you were more mexican." I also had someone in Mexico tell me I was a gringo... there's always a back and forth between one or the other
🥺 that's the reality for so many of us!
I’m American-Mexican, and the fact that they are spanish artists singing mexican music, while disrespecting the culture, language, cities etc is unacceptable.
thank you for sharing your opinion
They don’t look like Spaniards from Europe..
They did not disrespected your culture in any way stop be a snowflake and grow up. This kids are US citizens if born in US it is not their fault. Why are you proud of a freakin state run by narcos? I wouldn't. Now if this kids were white then nobody would be offended. But since they are brown then they have "el nopal en la cabeza". So the true racist is the mexican they are the ones that dont let you assimilate into USA
That’s not an excuse, I have three kids and I work my ass 24/7 and still taught my kids my culture. You need to search more and you’ll find out the rest.
@@rosaliollamas4209 like I said its an option. You dont have to be mexican by culture. Its like telling whites in America to become english because they look english. Its ridicolous. Asians come to america to prosper not to be waving a chinese flag and to question their identity.
It's not racism.. It's "don't bite the hand that feeds you"
Exactly. Watch what you say and more importantly HOW you say it.
I think y’all missed the point here… we’re not claiming that it’s racism against Chicanos, because Chicanos are not a race and that’s not how that works. It’s the use of indigenous people as insults with the memes created to bully the kids for their indigenous features. Being called an “Indio” in Mexico is usually used as an insult. That’s racist.
@decolonizationisforeveryon1514 yes you’re totally right! I was confused as to why you brought that up because that wasn’t the point I was trying to make but a completely separate one. Malinchismo is a whole complicated issue on its own
@@EatBailaTravel Noted and understood and point given. I don't feel we can use them being called "Indios" as a racist term though. I believed their actions of degrading their own heritage allows people to call them such thing. Acting like they're not of that heritage or above it allows "Indios" is being used as a description of what they should have known was their culture.
@mikewillie9112 I hear you and understand what you’re saying. It’s not the word “Indio” that’s racist, it’s that people are putting societal expectations on a history of discrimination that has tried really hard to keep indigenous people at a societal disadvantage because they’re seen as less than. It’s all the history and baggage that the term comes with. Plus, Mexicans are not all brown, some are black some are white. “Because you’re brown and from Mexico, you SHOULD like XYZ” I don’t think it’s fair to put people in a box like that.
Very good content, I go through the same s___! Everywhere I go people speak to me in Spanish, they find it hard to believe I don't speak Spanish, I am an American. Anyways keep up the good work bring light on this issues.
Thank you! 🤗 saludos
Spanish is a European language. It is not indigenous to the Americas. The Mexica or "Aztec" spoke Nahuatl. Get it straight.
Jenny, I share your views and found myself conflicted as well. I would’ve like to see the focus on positive experiences of their visit rather than dislikes but I believe they were experiencing some culture shock and struggled with navigating that conversation.
In viewing the social content coming out of Mexico, I strongly believe Mexico’s deep-seated systematic racism and classism were exposed both consciously and unconsciously. It was extremely disappointing to see that their skin tone and indigenous heritage and features were used to belittle them and enforce a sense of “inferiority”. On the other hand, I can empathize with Mexicans who were upset by the straightforward statements and the perception that they benefit from Mexico and it’s people, yet express cultural contempt (no matter how minor) understandably triggered anger.
As a first generation Chicana myself I understand navigating both worlds can be complex. There's a significant level of scrutiny that Mexicans can subject you to and in recent years Mexican-Americans have increasingly started to gate-keep Mexican culture and imposing their own criteria for defining Mexicanness. However, that’s a topic for another day.
Thank you both for sharing your thoughts. In this climate it can be risky to have an unpopular opinion but I believe it is important to have open dialogue to help us bridge our cultural differences.
So many good comments on this video but yours has to be one of my favorites. You've articulated so well the problematic nature of this whole fiasco. Thank you for mentioning the gate-keeping, something that's bugged me for a long time but haven't been able to process very well. Great idea for perhaps a future video. Thanks for the inspo!
Yes! Thanks for your comment!
As a Mexican American looking to move to Mexico, I can honestly say that it is tough for us. Jenny expressed it eloquetly "Not American enough for the Americans and not Mexican enough for the Mexicans. Recently, I have spent a lot of time in Mexico but everytime Im there I sometimes feel like a have to proof that I am Mexican.
something we're learning along this journey is how to be more authentically ourselves, which I'm sure the kids in this situation wanted to do, but they might've brought some arrogance into the situation, but let this be a lesson to us all to always have compassion when sharing our perspectives and opinions. When other people see you are making an effort to consider their reality, they'll be more inclined to accept yours.
Mexicans in Mexico are weary about how Mexican-Americans really feel about them because they probably had past experiences where they felt belittled and maybe some Chicanos act like their 💩 don’t stink, so they don’t know if you’re someone arrogant. They are trying to figure you out.
Also, Mexicans gave Yaritza y su esencia a lot of support and now they feel betrayed because of all the negative things they said when the interviewer simply asked “How has Mexico been treating you?” Of the 5 answers they gave, the 5 answers were negative.
"Ni de aqui ni de allá"...🤔, ¿saben algo sobre Quebec (o Cataluña en España)? Es una provincia francofona casi en su totalidad en Canada, pais mayoritariamente anglofono. Pese a que Quebec no es un pais y esta rodeado de angloparlantes, ha sabido conservar la lengua francesa y gran parte de su cultura, incluso han habido referendums para lograr algun dia su independencia de Canada. Ellos no se sienten ni canadienses ni franceses, ellos son más que nada quebecoises, incluso desarrollaron su propia derivacion del frances, hasta tienen bandera propia. ¿Podran algun dia hacer algo parecido los millones de mexico americanos, o hispanos, y de una vez aceptar el hecho de que es imposible estar totalmente integrado a una u otra cultura, y aceptar ese hecho e incluso algun dia llegar a tener cierta libertad, autonomia y reconocimiento como el de Quebec o Cataluña?
Im mexican american and since a kid, i knew i was mexican. why try to be american when you're not. you were just born in the US and thats it. I knew mexicos history (that they manipulated) from a young age and then i grew up to know its real history and i know everything about mexico. its cringe as hell seeing nopales try to be american when the americans dont even want you or consider you an american. mexican americans have this superiority complex about themselves. Which is why mexicans dont accept you but if you didnt have that in you, they will accept you. stop trying to be something youre not. You're mexican and period.
They’re kids and unexperienced..
Los representantes pudieron evitar esto,con simplemente guiarlos y enseñarles como o actuar en frente de la cámaras.
Y en Estados Unidos hay muchos Mexicanos,que pagarían lo que sea por volver a comer un antojo Mexicano de su lugar preferido..
I been following your channel for a while.Orgulloso de ustedes de tomar la decisión de Vivir y conocer nuestra cultura…
Y espero que muchos más sigan sus pasos de una o otra forma.
Continúen conociendo y explorando cada Rincón de Mexico.
muchas gracias Felipe! That's why we make these videos, we hope to be a positive influence on other chicanos/latinos like us
The eldest brother is like 25, only Yahritza who is like 16 is a kid, the other two are adults and said equally dumb stuff.
Give them chicken
Hi both of you. Actually I like your videos, congratulations!. I already know that you are mexican american persons and in my opinion it´s so great because you are able to speak english and spanish, although sometimes some mexican people are aggresive and call you either pochos or chicanos. In my opinion it doesn´t matter whether both of you were born in US as long as you respect and love your mexican roots. Go ahead with your videos. Regards from Ixtlahuaca Mexico
Hola! Thanks so much for your kind words 🙏🏽🩷
I don't think people put the geography of these two places into consideration. They live in an area where there are fields and fields all around them. How much noise do you think they are used to? Probably not much, so when you put these teens in the middle of Mexico City with such a high population and surrounded by buildings and traffic, it will affect how they experience this new place. So of course this girl's first comment is on the noise. The oldest is just used to the seasoning of food in Washington. As a Cali girl myself, I don't like tex-mex seasoning. I also have high expectations of mexican food because I've had amazing Mexican food in CA, yes I am bias. I am sure they have their own biases but to cancel them and bully them for these comments wasn't right. Now all of us, parents with kids that don't speak perfect Spanish or any Spanish are going to think twice before bringing their kids to Mexico. No one wants their own people putting down their kids.
great comment, thanks for taking the time to write!
Traveling anywhere without the language knowledge means a certain amount of discomfort. That discomfort hopefully will make people better at acquiring the language long term
I am from Mexico, and I am seeing here Mexican-Americans making a wrong assumption; you guys think that Mexico is canceling Yaritza; it’s not the country of Mexico, it’s their fans, fans of the genre of “regional mexicano “. The press was very understanding of the situation; I saw a show with Adela Micha, a famous journalist, and she spoke in favor of Yaritza as other tv shows.
They understand they are young kids, and there is always a fuzzy eater in our family; we understand she feels more comfortable speaking English ; but when you are selling a product directed to Spanish speaking market (regional Mexicano); you cannot say: “voy a hablar español cuando yo quiera y si no les gusta se pueden retirar” and that is exactly what their fans are doing.
When you are a public figure you gotta be careful with your choice of words; she came across very prepotent; and that is what people in Mexico dislike (specially in regional mexicano) it’s not the comments about the food, or language preference. Angela Aguilar had the same problem, she seems prepotent.
As we say in Mexico: “no muerdas la mano de quien te da de comer”.
Esoooo ingon😂
muy bien dicho! thanks so much for your comment
Por fin, un comentario razonable. Lo unico que quiero agregar a esto es que la reaccion de muchos se me hizo muy hipocrita. Peso Pluma dijo que un estado mexicano estaba "culero" (osea, feo, de la chingada, horrible), y estuvo en Argentina diciendo que los argentinos le "dieron en la ve*ga a los mexicanos" en el partido. Esos comentarios se me hacen mucho mas irrespetuosos hacia Mexico que cualquier cosa que dijeron estos plebes, pero no miro que se haya echo un pedote como este.
Ademas, desde que me vine a vivir a Mexico, me sorprende cuanto mexicano menosprecia su propia cultura y gastronomia, y prefiere la estadunidense. Aqui veo a mexicanos que les encanta Starbucks, McDonald's, Subway, Little Caesar's, Popeye's, cheken, desprecian a la musica regional mexicana, la denominan "naca" y "fea", hablan de "indios patas rajadas", que se burlan de la comida callejera mexicana y hablan de "donia panchita en la esquina vendiendo sus taquitos" en tono burlesco, actos y palabras mucho mas ofensivas que cualquier cosa que dijeron estos chamacos.
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As for the noise comment, if you grew up in a rural environment, the level of activity in any city, including Mexico City, would be overwhelming. Also, regardless of where you grow up, people have food preferences and differences in spice tolerance etc. The response seems extreme.
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@@EatBailaTravelal parecer no conocen el contexto real del porque fue cancelada esa agrupación, los Mexicanos no están ofendidos por qué no les gusta la comida, deben de investigar y mirar todos los vídeos de esta agrupación para que realmente sepan cuál fue el motivo.
Arrogancia
Desprecio por la comida
El no querer hablar español con sus seguidores, al grado de decirles que ella iba hablar español cuando ella quisiera y al que no le pareciera se puede ir.
El hacer cara de asco una coke en bolsa enfrente del taquero.
Al preguntarle que cuando regresaría a México y solo saca la lengua en forma de burla y se retira.
Todo eso y más lo pueden ver todo está documentado en los vídeos
Solo dejen de decir que son unos niños inexpertos
Uno de ellos 26 o 27
El otro 18
Y elle 16
Su carrera seguirá en USA
Pero perdieron uno de los mejores mercados para la música.
I don’t know where they stayed in Mexico City, but it sounds like it was in the center historic district which is always super loud. When you stay in that city you have to do your research and stay in a nice comfortable quiet area if you can, The Santa Fe area probably has tons of newer quieter hotels, but it’s away from all the action, ni modo🤷🏻♂️
is not that, it’s their actitud 💁♀️
La funa seguirá para este grupo por maleducados. La buena educación y modales no conocen fronteras. En vez de ser agradecidos con México ellos vinieron a burlarse de nosotros con gestos, risas y muecas. Mordieron la mano que les daba de comer. 🎉🇲🇽
muy bien dicho, desafortunadamente esos jovenes no entendían eso en aquel momento pero me imagino que ahora sí.. ya que es muy tarde
POCHOS APOYANDO POCHOS
HABLANDO EN INGLÉS
ESTÁS SON LAS GENERACIONES NI DE AQUÍ NI DE ALLA
SON MÁS YANKIS QUE LOS ANGLOSAJÓNES PERO LOS GRINGOS NO LOS QUIEREN
Pero hay veces que nos pasamos de nacionalistas los chicos se equivocaron cómo todo joven y no es para tanto bullying
@@Enrique-zn2gl La funa seguirá para este grupito que quería lucrar de México, estamos cansados de los mexicanos que se van al exterior y cuándo regresen nos juzguen con risas, gestos, muecas a nuestras caras por tener una economía menos desarrollada. La gastronomía mexicana es una expresión de la cultura. Se menosprecia la comida, se rechaza la nación.
@@Enrique-zn2glOjalá No Regresen NUNCA ésas tres pestilencias!! lOl
Completely agree with all this issue! But I feel that us Mexican Americans are a new breed and that is ok.
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-Pocho
Meh
So just from the clips you showed, it just seems these guys are kids, thrown into a level of popularity they weren’t ready for. It didn’t appear they had any idea how to handle a legit press junket. Had someone sat them down beforehand with a list of possible questions, they could have handled it better. As adults being asked our thoughts on CDMX, the 1st response would have been the culture, the architecture, the people, etc. not “I prefer chicken wings!” 😂 side note I have had Mexican food in Washington… they don’t know what spicy is! Lol
Lol Mexican food in Washington doesn't even sound appetizing.. but yea I think you're right on point here, a more mature adult would have known not to say "I prefer chicken wings" lol but people are so mean and jump to hate on the internet
Speaking on the group Yahritza y su Esencia, I don't think there's anything wrong with them not favoring certain dishes from a certain country, but to make it seem as though it's all unappetizing and compare it to a completely dissimilar nation where everything utterly contrasts, can be seen as pure insolence by others. I am Mexican/Argentinian, and personally, there are certain foods that I don't like from either place, but I would never behave in such a discourteous manner or make any snide remarks. There are several methods of conveying your stance on a subject matter and voicing your preferences, as long as you're clever about it. There is a reason that they say "think before you speak." It can either be beneficial or disadvantageous. In addition, refusing to speak a language that is in fact the main language spoken by the supporters of a person or group, simply because they refuse, demonstrates nothing but arrogance and mindlessness.
Unequivocally, "pocho" is a derogatory term meant to disparage others, point blank period. I'm from a border town in Arizona, therefore I grew up around the Mexican/Latino people, culture, and have extensive knowledge about the language, customs, food, etc. I have perceived that many Mexicans, especially nationalist ones, tend to denigrate those who were not born in the country of Mexico and are of Mexican origin, but applaud non-mexicans when they say anything in spanish, regardless of how nonsensical it may be. Many of them also tend to be very censorious regarding the physical appearance of others. I personally find their behavior quite derisive and hypocritical. Unfortunately, this type of dismissive conduct towards noncitizens seems to occur in various countries around the world. They make it seem as though they are envious and irascible people, which is lamentable. If people of Mexican descent are ashamed of their roots, they say, "Son de descendencia mexicana y se avergüenzan de sus raíces. Con en nopal en la frente. Se creen gringos. Se creen porque son de allá. Son racistas." But if you are proud of your roots, they say, "No son mexicanos porque no nacieron en México. Son pochos. No saben nada de México. No hablan bien el español." Damned if you do and damned if you don't. Hypocrisy at its best. This is why you shouldn't care about how you're perceived by others, especially when they go through life negatively judging everyone and everything. How can people expect others to respect them when they can even respect their own? This is simply my viewpoint on this particular subject matter, so if any offense is taken by my opinion, it's not my issue and you need to work on your emotional stability. Si te quedó el saco, then work it honey! You look amazing!
So true. Don't understand why they overlooked this comment.
Hi guys! I just subscribed! I only “discovered” your channel a few days ago and have watched a few of your videos. Very interesting stuff but what I most appreciate is that finally there are videos about traveling in Mexico from our perspective i.e. Mexican-Americans! So thank you and keep up the good work! I look forward to move of your videos. Ciao!
welcome to the channel! glad you appreciate our videos, feel free to share them if you feel compelled to help us grow 🤗 we look forward to making more videos that speak to the 🇲🇽🇺🇸 experience
I agree with the two of you. I do want to say that Washington state is rich with Mexicans. I am 72 and grew up in San Diego and my dads best friends lived in TJ. I also have Mexican friends here in Anacortes Wa. and most look forward to returning to Mexico when they retire. They like you travel back to Mexico for extended visits every summer. This keeps there kids roots strong for there home Country.
cool, I didn't know there was such a significant population of Mexicans in WA state. Though now that I think about it, with all the vineyards and farms, I bet many migrate there for work
@@EatBailaTravel both my grandfathers came up here as Braceros to pick blueberries back in the day! They returned home but others stayed and planted their roots in WA. The first non-Indigenous people in the region weren't the Spanish or White American settlers, but people from what is now Mexico during the Colonial era. Really interesting history. There are those that like to pretend that Mexicans just got here yesterday but we influenced trade and industry in the region from the start. There's also a peak near Mt. Rainier that shares a namesake with my dad's pueblo in Guerrero (Chutla) so I've always wondered if there was a Pre-Hispanic connection as well.
Maybe in some way these super talented kids were expressing pride in where they're from. True, they could have expressed their thoughts differently, but as you said, they're young kids. Perhaps they were thinking, yeah, we have a strong Mexican culture in WA where we live and it's interesting to note the differences etc. They only know what they know. I wish them luck.
you know what, I think you're exactly right on that. People act like Mexican Americans need to CHOOSE A SIDE but why can't we be proud of all those parts of us? If I were them "well I play mexican music so it must be obvious how much I love my mexican culture so I'm going to say something that highlights the other part of me" they unfortunately did that with the wrong audience, a sensitive mexican audience
Hola chicos! Primero que nada me gusto todo lo que dijieron y me siento muy orgullosa de ustedes.
Sobre este teme, es algo triste que paso. Yo soy nacida en Mexico y vine a vivir a USA cuando era adolescente entonces ver personas como ustedes (chicanos) ir al país que me vio crecer es súper bonito, ver toda las cosas bonitas que Mexico tiene que ofrecer es una sensación que no puedo explicar, pero también ver como Yaritza dijo en una entrevista (en ingles) que a ella no le gustaba Mexico pero usar el lenguaje para la fama no se vale, yo entiendo de donde viene ella y que talvez se siente más cómoda hablando inglés, pero también tiene que entender que la mayoría de su público son hispanos y muchos no entienden Inglés. Entonces porque no primero pensar lo que uno dice antes de hablar.
👏🏽👏🏽 bien dicho amiga, muchas gracias por escribirnos 🫶🏽 y que alegría escuchar de ti! esperamos que te encuentres muy bien un abrazo 🫂
La artista tiene libertad de expression punto. Ellos ya son Americanos dejenlos ser. Yo estoy de acuerdo en la asimilacion. Ellos quieren asimilisarse a Eeuu y eso es muy bonito. Apoco tu quieres ver a los venezolanos bolando bamderas de venezuela en Mexico? Claro que no. Ahora la musica es un arte yo canto canciones en aleman, portuguese, japones yo soy musico y no tengo que "amar" la comida o el pais de Alemania. Lo que tienen muchos mexicanos es envidia hacia los chicanos porque realmente prosperan aki. El mismo mexicano no permite que el mismo mexicano prospere son como las langostas que jalan a la que quiere salir hacia abajo. Yo aki en Eeuu e sufrido mas con el mexicano que con los demas
@@dianabenavides2913envidia de los chicanos que no son de aquí ni de haya Jajajaja estás muy equivocado, los Chi años se creen más según por nacer en USA pero ni los quieren 😂 en Mexico si se prospera si trabaja duro, yo no envidio nada a los gringos desabridos y menos a los chócanos renegados
No estoy de acuerdo. El Peso Pluma dijo que Sonora "esta culero" y nadie dijo nada. Fue a Argentina de lambiscon y dijo que los argentinos le dieron en la v**ga a México y no se hizo un pedote. Comentarios mucho más ofensivos hacia México que lo que dijeron estos chamacos.
Y además, no hablaron mal de México, simplemente dijeron que prefieren la comida de su lugar de origen. ¿Acaso un mexicano en EEUU ofende a EEUU si dice que le gustan más los tacos que las hamburguesas? Sería ridículo decir que sí. Y además, a muchos mexicanos les gusta más el cheken y la comida americana que la mexicana. Aquí en México veo cotidianamente a mexicanos menospreciar la comida mexicana, prefiriendo comer pizza, hamburguesas, alitas, café americano en lugar de cafecito mexicano con pan dulce, que menosprecian a la música regional mexicana, denominándola "basura," "naca," y no sé qué más. ¿Son ellos anti-mexicanos?
Y además, hay artistas mexicanos que dicen que no les gusta Estados Unidos, pero siguen haciendo giras allá. Y hacen giras por los "pochos," los chicanos, los mexico-americanos; si no fuera por ellos, no tendrían público en EEUU. ¿Acaso se van a hacer giras en Iowa, Dakota del Sur, Wyoming, Maine, donde casi no hay mexicanos ni mexico-americanos?
No se compliquen tanto, lo que pasó con esos jóvenes, que por cierto NO SON NIÑOS, es simple y llanamente FALTA DE EDUCACIÓN, tú no vas a casa de tu tía quien te está dando empleo e ingresos y quien además te recibe con mucho amor en su casa y le dices que no le gusta su comida y que la comida de tu casa es mucho mejor porque si sabe rica y está buena, y la de ella no., y además le dices a tu tía que no le gusta quedarte en su casa porque hay mucho ruido y te molesta, que tu casa es mejor; nada más imagínate como se va a sentir tu tía! Casi nadie haría semejante BURRADAS ya sea por EDUCACIÓN ELEMENTAL o mínimo SENTIDO COMÚN! No se trata de ser o no mexicano, se trata de RESPETO Y EDUCACIÓN ELEMENTAL
claro que sí tienes mucha razón!
Tu logica esta muy mala. Ademas, cuantos artistas mexicanos no dicen que prefieren a Mexico y a su comida y aun asi no dejan de hacer gira en EEUU? Ademas, la pregunta se la plantearon, no lo dijeron nomas por decirlo.
@@edgarcorral562 para empezar me queda claro que también careces de educación elemental, pero ése no es mi problema, por otro lado te recuerdo que la pregunta no se las plantearon en ningún momento, eso justamente es lo peor de todo, sus respuestas no venían al caso con la pregunta que les hicieron, ellos como respuesta empezaron a hablar solamente cosas negativas de México, la comida, el ruido, etc. La comida de cualquier lugar te puede gustar o no, no es obligación que te guste, lo malo en éste asunto fue la forma tan desagradable que lo dieron, con una MUY MUY MALA EDUCACIÓN, eso es incuestionable, pero por lo que veo tu también careces de una buena educación, por eso no lo entiendes
@@letticia2024 Leticia, gracias por tu respuesta. En respuesta a tu diatriba difamatoria, permíteme decir lo siguiente:
La entrevistadora les preguntó cómo los trataba la Ciudad de México. Yahritza interpretó esto como si se referiera a si les gustaba la Ciudad de México. Independientemente de si malinterpretó la pregunta, eso es lo que entendió y es la pregunta que respondió. También es la pregunta a la que respondieron sus hermanos. Gustarte (o no gustarte) un lugar es un tema complejo, ya que abarca una constelación de factores, como el clima, la infraestructura, el nivel de ruido y, en muchos casos, la comida.
Ella no dijo que no le gustaba México o que no le gustaba la Ciudad de México. De hecho, precedió su comentario diciendo que le gustaba y solo entonces agregó las cosas que no le gustaban. No estoy seguro en qué mundo vives si crees que algún país o ciudad es perfecta y, por lo tanto, todo sobre élla es agradable.
No veo dónde mi respuesta muestra una "falta de educación" o "inteligencia". Dado que decidiste atacar mi nivel de educación y/o inteligencia, simplemente señalaré que soy miembro de dos sociedades de alto coeficiente intelectual y tengo amplios conocimientos en política, literatura, historia, filosofía, entre otros temas. De hecho, probablemente sé más sobre México, su historia y su música que tú.
La humildad va en ambas direcciones. Las personas razonables pueden estar en desacuerdo. Si no estás de acuerdo con lo que dije, basta señalar dónde me equivoqué, en lugar de lanzar insultos.
Que tengas un buen día.
@@edgarcorral562 que soberbia! Una vez más muestras tu falta de educación elemental que poco tiene que ver con la inteligencia y mucho menos con la preparación académica, también podría contestarte enlistando mis títulos y nivel académico pero me resulta absolutamente ocioso en éste en éste contexto
Luísito es mexicano, y su contenido no es sólo para el público de México. Los muchachos de este grupo son de descendencia mexicana, no es lo mismo. Le cantan a un público mayoritariamente mexicano que escuchan el regional mexicano. Desde mi punto de vista, si ellos fueran de otro género, digamos, el pop latino, no hubiese sido la gran cosa. Personalmente no me parece racista.
En referencia a Luisito comunica no era en comparación al grupo yahritza. Era para nosotros, la gente nos hecha mucha lumbre que no hacemos los videos en español y que estando en Mexico deberían de ser en español. Por eso la comparación.
De hecho, si es lo mismo, ya que el articulo 30 de la Constitucion de Mexico dice que todos los que nazcan en el extranjero de padres mexicanos son mexicanos por nacimiento. De hecho, la mayoria de los paises no otorgan la nacionalidad nomas por haber nacido en su territorio; es necesario ser de la ascendencia de ese pais (por ejemplo, para ser chino, no basta con haber nacido en China; tienes que ser de descendencia china).
@@EatBailaTravelCada quien con su proyecto, usd se sienten cómodos con el idioma en inglés y su tema es la cultura mexicana y su mercado es el de usa y esta bien.
Hay otros youtubers de otros países por ejemplo :chingu amiga, el coreano (coreanos), no manches (son 2 hermanos alemanes), etc tuvieron que aprender el idioma español y tecnicismos mexicanos y les está yendo bien en youtube.
Ascendencia no descendencia
We all have different experiences, different upbringings, etc. In my case, my family has been in Texas since the 1700s and 1800s, so my experiences may be drastically different to someone who’s parents are immigrants. Regardless though, I would never have said anything negative about Mexico while I’m in Mexico, or any country for that matter. They were guests in Mexico trying to start a career there. You don’t bite the hand that feeds you, and as celebrities they should have known better, even if they are teenagers. I hope they can salvage their career somehow and learn from this experience.
MUY BUEN DICHO 👍
yep! thanks for your comment
They need a P.R person at this level in their career.
Agreed, they rose to fame for their music and I don’t think they were prepared for any of it.
Great video!!!
The struggle is real!
Living here in Mexico.. basically got to do what the Mexican does...
My husband Jose was born here..he migrated to the US..we met and married...25 years later we are here and me a Chicana.. bilingual...meet his family and they now tell me they are shocked that I am not a gringa repunosa..
I get it...both of you are so on point! ❤
yikes lol you see right there they are showing what they expected of you, the preconceived idea they had of chican@s! sigh...
@@EatBailaTravel .
Yes!! and they were so intimidated prior to our meeting...they told me they thought there was no one poor in the United States... when I told them my story they were so not believing that I grew up with what I needed and worked for what we have..no luxuries..
The relationship I have with my Mexican family here is special...
They are amazed that I know two languages...
🥺 this was my experience, too. Maybe these are the stories we need to start sharing more
Thank you for discussing this topic. I got goosebumps. To me “ni de aqui, ni de allá” is the hardest part of being an immigrant. I feel like I’m from all but nowhere at the same time. But I love your take on your shirt.
I'm glad you feel it was a productive discussion, thanks for your comment
Don't feel that way. Be proud of being Mexican-American! Que vivan los chicanos! Que vivan los mexicanos! Que viva la nacion chicana y la nacion mexicana, la sangre es mas fuerte que el suelo, y a final de cuentas, somos la misma raza mexicana, somos, como dice Vicente Fernandez en su cancion Hijo del Pueblo, descendientes de Cuahutemoc.
I’m a Mexican American born in Mexico but raised in the US since the age of 3. What I cannot understand is how in the interviews these kids could not clearly express their love and appreciation of Mexican culture when their whole musical career and their music videos are infused with Mexican sounds, cultural symbols, mannerisms, style of dress, and they even sing in Spanish. They would have to be so ignorant, secluded, and not have access to anything Mexican to be quick to dismiss the treasures of Mexico and just say that back home is better. I’m sure they have access to internet and their whole music production process likely exposes them to a lot of Mexican culture. I would not give them a pass at all. For me they’re just very spoiled, uneducated kids who think they can say whatever they want and not deal with the consequences. I have 5-yo nieces and nephews in the US who can show you way more pride about their Mexican culture, including food, than these teenagers. Such a shame! Growing up I also felt embarrassed sometimes about some aspects of the Mexican culture that I did not connect with, but I would NEVER generalize it to the entire Mexican culture as a teenager, and I would also be a little more smart to know that if you’re making a living as an artist who distinctly dresses, talks, and sings with a Mexican flare, that you would at least appear to be more appreciative of your cultural roots. Just sayin. New subscriber here!
Same here! Mexicano, nacido en Monterrey N.L, pero creado en Chicago desde los 3. ❤
I have also said that perhaps their parents and family have just not been able to provide the lessons that some Chicano kids have. My experience was that, I knew how to speak Spanish from the time I knew how to speak but I as a young teen wanted to belong to the kids I was surrounded by I was conflicted with being from here as in the U.S vs people assuming I was from there as in Mexico. I just wanted to be me and for a long time the assumptions that I wasn’t either bothered me so growing up here I embraced it but if anyone spoke negative about Mexico or Mexicans it angered me so I have been there man, I have felt all of it and I must say it’s taken probably a good 40 years to just say f it let’s go with the flow and now I can for the most part adapt to any situation and just embrace the chicana me without thinking twice about it. We as a society of Mexican people should give them some grace. I wish I had granted myself that same grace at that age.
the fact that you went through it, and that so many of us have gone through it, it's an experience I think is not well understood by Mexicans in Mexico..
Our American mannerisms will always be a giveaway not just in Mexico. We are what culture environment we grew up in. I'm of Mexican descent, but that's about it. I don't know anything about Mexico other than the food and language i was brought up in.
you only know as much as you know.. and you don't know what you don't know
I am Mexican American and visit Mexico a lot, I have never been asked any questions about liking xyz Mexican thing.
But I do think that ALOT of the comments towards the group are racist.
mhmmm!
Mexican culture in general is a very formal. As a child you are taught to show deference in all aspects of life, to be a well natured individual, and generous to all you meet. That is not the American way, not even close! 😂 The kids will learn or fizzle.
Personally I’m of the Timbiriche age and can still remember the love, admiration, and respect they had for their Mexico. But they where from Mexico and understood the expectations.
To your point about pochos. I’ve noticed, in media, that sounding pocho/a/x as a Mexican who drops in some Spanglish here and there signals a private education or an elevated social standing and therefore acceptable. But if you genuinely struggle with the Spanish language [and from the USA ] you are now a pocho. I feel like the double standards is a reflection of the social dissonance MEXICO struggles with when it attempts to understand the impact it’s system of immigration has on us all.
oohhh 🔥 your point about spanglish and pochos... tsss! Well said! going to save your comment and sit with it for a while
These kids are Americans who look Mexican. They didn't grow up in a pueblo. They will be outsiders intellectually and spirituality, but not physically.
This has been stated by European when "German" or "French" Americans visit their ancestral homeland. There is no such thing as a hyphenated American. You're just an American. An American in your ancestors homeland. It's oxymoronic, yet it's the fate of all immigrants to be cosmopolitan and deracinated. Sad but true.
"I’ve noticed, in media, that sounding pocho/a/x as a Mexican who drops in some Spanglish here and there signals a private education or an elevated social standing and therefore acceptable."
I think you watched La Rosa de Guadalupe and missed the whole point of the show which is to criticize society (and does a very shitty and hilarious job at it). People who speak spanglish in Mexico usually fall into two stereotypes, Fresas or what kids call them now Whitexicans who are usually people who think everything American is better simply for being American and usually come from mid-high class families, the best comparison to an American stereotype are dumb blonde white girls from California, the other stereotype is that it is said by rural types from the border area, usually very uneducated who say things like "troca", "parkin" or "mol", both stereotypes are very negative, the 2nd is almost the equivalent of a "redneck" in Mexico.
What comes as someone who shows signals of a private or elevated education are fully bilingual people.
@carloscarlin114 you make an excellent point.
"Timbiriche" was made up of by fresas/fifis. They are 1000% Mexican, even though they were all, "'fresas chilangas." They knew how to "congraciarse con la gente popular." They understood that they belonged to the "haves" but were thoroughly trained by their handlers/managers on how to win the hearts and minds of the "masses." They were SCHOOLED by their top notch PR reps on how to act and what to say, while being interviewed. Just like Pandora, Flans, Fandango, Garibaldi, etc., all surrounded by the best PR firms/talent agencies from Mexico City. (Mexico City is a magnet for all of the talent coaches etc. from all over Latin America, mainly Argentina).
MEXICO IS VERY FORMAL, like you said. The US today is definitely NOT.
Unfortunately, these Chicano kids were clueless. They obviously had NO knowledge/guidance on how to speak to the "farandula chilanga"/Mexican media.
Yakima, Washington and Polanco are on separate planets. 18:10
The struggle is real. 😢 When I'm with my white friends they consider me their Mexican friend. But with my Mexicans friends I do suffer not knowing cultural references from Spanish tv, music or slang. So I do miss on their references and usually don't get jokes. But any chance I get to practice my Spanish I'm in!!
One word in Spanish and we are on!!😃😁
The "Mexican" media/ novelas/ programming in the US is so sensationalized and a joke. I understand why you feel left out but they're only repping the superficial aspects of what is presented as Mexican/ Latino culture in the US. Tell 'em many of our ancestors didn't even speak Spanish. 😉Glad that you're connecting to your roots though! Spanish was my first language but I didn't learn how to speak it grammatically correct until I was in University.
so many of us ride this struggle bus together!
Omg so true
@@rvbberbandheart "Tell 'em many of our ancestors didn't even speak Spanish."
Unless you speak either Yucatec, Tzotzil, Mixtec, Zapotec, Mayo, Yaqui, Wixarika, Raraumuri or Nahuatl that point makes no sense either, Mexico recognizes 70 languages as "official", English isn't one of them, Spanish is.
Omg you guys literally said almost every thoughts I had 😭
As for the last clip. From what I found on TikTok. It’s NOT an interview. That girls name is Meche and is Yaritza’s friend, I think they even dated! So it seems they often go on Live and talk English! In his clip they were talking English at the beginning then Meche starts teasing Yahritza bout her Spanish and how she’s a no sabo kid. Yahritza seems a little upset like I could tell she was trying to respond in Spanish but didn’t really know what to say so then she starts making funny faces. I think this is how it stated. It’s definitely the same day bc they have the same clothes and the girl is doing her makeup. So in this context I don’t see it bad that she’s telling her friend who she always talks in English to talk to her in English after she called her a no sabo kid
Oh wow. I had no idea this was the context. Thanks for clarifying that
thanks for the additional context! another example of how the internet cherry-picks clips with little-to-no context and blows things out of proportion
This may be a bit lengthy, so I apologize in advance. Just yesterday, I heard someone say that a cultural shift happened at the advent of the telegraph. Now, that goes way...way back....to the 1800s. The reason for this shift, according to the speaker, was because prior to the telegraph, news was localized. And when something was "news", it was generally information that was meant to be acted upon. If you heard that Jim's barn down the lane was on fire, that information was meant to be acted upon, meaning you were told that Jim's barn was on fire so that you would grab a bucket, some water and help put it out. That's why you were told about it. But when the telegraph came along, you could hear news (information) that you "couldn't" act upon: If you got a message that Jim's barn, which was 100 miles from you, was on fire, it was just...news. Useless information to the degree that even if you wanted to do something, you couldn't, because you were too far away. I say all this to say that we are bombarded with information that we cannot or will not do anything with. It is just useless to us. It doesn't mean it's not important; it does mean, however, that it is just clutter in our minds because we cannot do anything with it. We store up tons and tons of this useless information daily. What does this have to do with the subject of this video? The Internet has become a living, breathing "thing", that tells us when we are right and when we are wrong. It constantly feeds us information and tells us what we should think and feel about it. If we say something "the Internet" does not like or agree with, it quickly puts us in our place. It cancels us, it berates us, it shoves us into a corner until we come out with our hands up in surrender. It has gone beyond just the verbal: people's whole lives have been impacted by this thing called the Internet. People have lost jobs, lost their places of residence, even lost their lives, because of the Internet. For the hosts of this channel, they are living in two different worlds, both of which are being shaped and monitored by the Internet. It says that they are not Mexican enough or American enough (I shouldn't say American, because Mexico is part of America, but for this example we will just go with it). It would be different if it was localized. But with the Internet, it cannot be local. It is global. And it is eternal. I totally understand where Jenni and Kevin are coming from. Being Black but going to school with White kids when I was much younger put me in a similar situation. I'm too Black to be White, but too White to be Black. I cannot be just...me. I have to be what society says is acceptable. Who decides what a Black person is? Where is it written down that to be Black (or Mexican or whatever) you must check off this, this and this box? Who cares? And who decides that it is YOUR duty to tell ME (or in this case, Jenni and Kevin) that I am not good enough in either category to be one or the other? If Jenni and Kevin want to go to Mexico to discover more about their heritage, that should be celebrated and embraced. I would think that Mexicans would be proud to say that two young people from the US wanted to come to the "motherland" and learn about that part of their culture. And I would think the US would be proud to have two people from Mexican heritage in the US offering cultural diversity and contributing to the overall health and wellbeing of the country. As for these artists who said what they said: I have no opinion one way or the other. They said what they said. Who cares? They were being honest. We can say that maybe they didn't say it correctly. OK, fair point. But how many times have we opened our mouths and said something we wished we could have said differently? I also do not like that people have to always come back and apologize for something they said, when the only reason they are doing it is so that the Internet will get off their backs. If you said what you said and you truly want to apologize, OK, that's all fine and good. But I don't like when people are forced to do something, especially if it is against what they truly feel. What has any of this to do with my original point? The Internet is the new telegraph. It gives us information that we cannot do anything with. We are wired to have some sort of reaction to information. When we cannot DO anything with information (in this case, the singers making off-handed comments), we resort to the one thing we can do: judge. And that's where we become even more divided. Because if I come out on this side of the subject, and the Internet comes out on the other, then I open myself up to judgment and criticism. It's just not worth it anymore. OK, I'm done.
So true! I love how you explained the progression from telegram to the internet - we sure are full of too much useless info!! But I think the ‘internet’ is not a thing but has entities/people behind it who are controlling the narratives and emotions and loves pitting the masses against each other!! We have to resist and LOVE instead since love conquers evil!
tssssss..... 🎤 drops mic! My friend, you snapped with this one. The world needs more of you ❤️
@@EatBailaTravel 😆 🤣 😂 OK!
I don't think they disrespected anyone much less Mexican culture! They were comparing life styles in 2 very different countries. And boy it's so different i prefer to pay my bills online every month and have my services run every month. I also agree with Yaritza that we don't always have to speak Spanish and we choose when and where we speak and who we speak with. Maybe her parents taught her to love the Good old USA More because she is after all a born and raise USA citizen.
Thanks for sharing your opinion 🙏🏽
What a stupid opinion….GTFO
The Mexicans open the door to them by attending their concerts with no problem. I guess is their lack of manners that got people upset.That girl is soo rude when she was being interviewed. Absolutely no manners.
Lack of manners, yes indeed, and they deserve to be called out but the hateful response was a bit overboard in my opinion
I totally agree with you both, the Internet blew this way UP and what a sad occurrence. I love their music. As a Gringa living in Oaxaca City, I feel the racism against outsiders/ Foreigners intensely, even though I am bilingual. I feel rudeness often with lack of manners and respect- that whole thing of "a few bad apples". There are so many wonderful Mexicans that are warm and welcoming. It's sad that the divide is as enormous as it is- regardless of whether someone is Mexican American or Anglo.
This is an important topic and you two did an excellent job discussing it.
Well, Oaxaca can be a hornet's nest of leftist radicalism, exacerbated by the current administration, so that explains some of the anti-foreign sentiment that you face. It's not new or unexpected. Plus it's a big pueblo, un pueblón, so there's that too. Pueblo chico, infierno grande. 😉
🙌🏼🙌🏼🙌🏼Well Said!❤️🇲🇽
thanks so much!
Chale! Soy de CDMX, no se la quiebren chavos. El punto está en que se viven realidades distintas. Para empezar. No somos iguales ( Claro, somos hijos de Dios y todos somos iguales .. ( claro unos más iguales que otros.) ( Leanse LA REBELIÓN DE LA GRANJA). OK, somos Mexicanos, unos más Mexicanos que otros... Pffff . Un ejemplo, los estados del norte, Nuevo León, Sonora, Chihuahua, B.C. Norte y Sur ...Creen que se identifican con los Aztecas!?? En fin, nuestro pueblo es un mozaico muy diverso. Oaxaca no tiene nada que ver con Zacatecas, por decir solo un ejemplo. Nuestro territorio es tan basto. Una vez vez escuche a un intelectual preguntarse y responder...que es lo que nos une pues!???La bandera? Nuestra piel bronceada? Etc etc... Concluyó ( yo creo por abiurrimiento, o por que se yo.. y dijo, Nos une la tortilla de maiz...! Será?, o será la cultura o la resistencia de ella misma que nos hace diferente. No lo sé. El caso es que no se la quiebren compás. Uds ( brazeros, Chicanos, emigrantes, Pochos, Bolillos, o como mala forma de decirles, ( a nosotros nos dicen Chilangos... Y nos odian, creo ya no, jejejeje ( por cierto el 80 por cientos de los capitalinos, está formado de gente de provincia, osea México,se odia a si mismo?), en fin no se la quiebren hermanos. LO QUE HACE GRANDE A MÉXICO SON ESAS PEQUEÑAS Y MUY GRANDES DIFERENCIAS!!!! Viva México Cabrones allá en Gringolandia, acá en Chilangolandia, allá en Jalisco, allá en Oaxaca, en Chiapas, en Puebla, en Zacatecas, en Veracruz ( en donde a llegado TODO!!!) VIVA MEXICO CABRONES!!!!❤❤❤❤
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I agree on the clip from Selena movie. I’ve experienced that so many times I’m a 60 year old woman and I’ve gone to Mexico and I feel that way and I love hearing United States and I feel that way too.
thanks for sharing 🙂
I love that expression "Twitter Fingers". I think Superholly talked about this once as well at least I think it was her. She grew up in both Mexico and the States. She said when she went to school people would often root against her labeling her U.S. so when she would lose a game they would say Mexico won etc.
ah SuperHolly, she's great! would love to collab with her someday
Mexico/US relations and rivalry has been there for centuries so it’s no surprise of the Mexican reaction to these young musicians with Mexican roots and a US education.
Thank you guys for this video. Love your travels & experiences. I was born & raised in Texas and have been dealing with this my whole life even to this day. Im 40 years old and even at work I see discrimination to the chicanos who don’t speak Spanish here in Texas. I love Mexico and visit often but even when I’m there I have a fear of speaking Spanish because I feel I will get taken advantage of because I don’t speak if properly. I am proud of my roots but the Selena movie said it best….it’s exhausting 😂 sometimes being mexican American. Shout Out to Chicago… my dad born in Mexico/raised in Chicago and moved to Texas where he met my mom. Much love & blessings to you guys!
It be like that sometimes, yea. Thank you, blessings to you as well amigo ✨
Polish Americans are different from Poles. Chicanos are different from Mexicans. In Polish, grandmother is Babcia, most Polish Americans use Busia. You might be surprised how much this small thing causes a schism.
How can anyone criticize you guys that have shown so much love and respect to your heritage and Motherland? You have done so much to educate people about the beautiful country of Mexico. People are crazy. Interesting discussion.
I get you, but Poland and the U.S. don't have the troubled, complex "history" that the latter has with Mexico.
@@chacmool2581 You are correct in that of course.
thanks for sharing the Polish American example. I know there are many people out there who can resonate with this in even small ways, though like @chacmool2581 pointed out, there's another layer to this that complicates things
The dynamics between Chicanos and Mexicans are much different than the dynamics between Polish Americans and Poles. For one, Chicanos and Mexicans aren't separated by an ocean and a continent; Chicanos and Mexicans live side-by-side as friends, neighbors, and are often members of the same family and the same household. Second, both cross the border daily, interacting with each other daily, in millions of transactions, both economic and social. In fact, Chicanos and Mexicans are so much more alike than Polish Americans and Poles that the Mexican government considers that the Mexican nation is no longer limited to its borders, but is in fact a "transterritorial nation" that encompasses both Mexicans in Mexico and Mexicans and Mexican-Americans in the US. On top of that, Mexicans in northern Mexico have adopted many of the words of the Spanish that has evolved in the US from Mexicans and Mexican-Americans, such as "lonche," "troca," and "parqueadero."
However, I do agree with your last comment. Most of the criticism comes from central and southern Mexicans, who don't have that constant interaction with Chicanos, like the Mexicans of the North do.
Chicanos are different than regular Mexican-Americans. Chicanos are a subculture similar to the Black Panther/power movement. Richard "Cheech" Marin was a Chicano, his father was an LAPD officer was a Mexican-American. Not all Mexican-Americans (if not most) like being called Chicano. Rejecting American assimilation and embracing indigenous identity are part of its core.
I remember I was in Matamoros, MX and the police had stopped us. And asked if we was mexican and we said yes. And they asked us if we was born in Mexico and we said "No" and they said we weren't mexican. We were not born there. And this has always stood in my mind. It's true I'm not mexican I am a Mexican-American. I was born in Chicago and I'm proud of my heritage. But a lot of mexicans call us pochos, gringos and so on. 😅😅😅😅😅
Gosh, they make it so confusing. The Mexican constitution clearly states that Mexicans born abroad to Mexican parents are still Mexican and have a right to citizenship. It’s not automatic, they have to claim it via some paperwork, but it’s true. We’re just a different kind of Mexican!
Thank you for sharing this. This really hit home today.
I've learned today people lie and the truth gets lost on social media, it's easy to distort the truth. People only want to hate. 😢 Bad news sells, as Canadians we don't see racism often.
Wow you guys nailed it today. God bless you and your families.
We love Mexico the people the culture everything about it. The family values they have not lost. ❤️🇲🇽
Yes! That's why this went so viral, all the hate within it. Saludos a Canadá ❤️🇨🇦
Part of the Mexican culture family values includes humility and these musicians showed very little of it.
@@fergomez3817 probably because they were raised in the USA. Take care friend 💞
Born in south Texas 1953. My grandfather came from Monterrey N.L.. My father was born here. I spoke basic Spanish before entering the public school system where speaking Spanish on school grounds was punished with swats to the butt with a paddle. Served in the U.S. Navy for one enlistment in the early 1970s during Vietnam. Luckily I stayed stateside with naval aviation. Proudly served. Honorably discharged. Providing for my family took a lot of my time and sadly I did not pay enough attention to my culture so I could pass it on. I have always been aware of the struggles any minority, black, brown or any other non-white. On any endeavor one undertakes you should prepare yourself as best you can. These young men should have been made aware of the situation they were going to be in.. In the original Selena Movie, her father warned Selena about how the media and the public could turn on her. All human beings regardless of country of origin are too quick to put someone else down. These young men should be given a break for not being aware. Hopefully this is not a crash and burn event for them. Maybe their promoters were only seeing dollar signs and not these boys future. I hope these fellas recover and go on with their music careers.
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These kids came out with their arrogant attitude instead of study and Respect the place you are going to visit. You don't disrespect where you are going to visit.
You don't disrespect the homeowner, whether you Visit a house or any Country.
If you ask me the parents are 100% responsible for the way were brought up.
respect is absolutely key
This group sings regional mexican, which has nothing to do with race. If you're going to sing regional mexican and in México, then be prepared to answer questions in spanish; most of that audience's primary language is spanish. In my opinion, it wouldn't be a big problem if they were from another genre. Also, the group are mexican descendants, not mexican-born. There's a difference. Bueno cambiando de tema.
El sábado pasado, mi novia y yo fuimos a un restaurante y en la televisión estaban emitiendo vídeos de regional mexicano. Entonces ella me preguntó por qué los hombres de este género tienen sobrepeso y son poco atractivos. La miré y le dije que no tenía ni idea; la señora sentada en la mesa de al lado nos oyó. Le sonreí y asentí con la cabeza; mi novia se avergonzó y dijo que iba al lavabo. Esta señora me preguntó la muñequita es argentina. Le contesté no, es uruguaya; ella se sonrió.
Saludos de México hoy viernes 25/08/2023 🤘🏻😈🤘🏻
Lol gracias por el anécdota.. Estoy de acuerdo con tu novia 🤭
aprovecho para aclarar una cosita.. en este video mencionamos el racismo en contra los indígenas que se mostró en los memes que se crearon a base de este asunto.. no es racismo en contra los chamacos si no en contra al gente indígena por usarlos como insulto
A poco existe Uruguay?🤣Sarcasmo. País de KK apenas tiene una extensión territorial de 68,037 millas cuadradas y 3.426 millones de habitantes. Deberías BOTARLA por que si ya se expresó mal de algunos mexicanos imaginate cuando vea indígenas mexicanos.
@@EatBailaTravel Llamar feos y gordos a alguien es derogatorio.
Pretty sure they said at the beginning of the video that the eldest brother was born in Mexico.
I also don’t hear much about the prejudice within Mexico against darker skin toned Mexicans, but have heard about it’s prevalence first hand from a darker skin toned Mexican living in Oaxaca city. Would love to hear more on this topic.
I am darker skinned but my brother is "whiter looking" and he was always gushed over his "good looks" for looking more European. It is common in our culture.
@@RelaxingMusicWithPinkKitty sorry to hear that- it’s so crazy!
it's a sensitive topic, for sure and deserves more attention. We're building up the courage and experience by talking about what we feel confident in and hopefully someday can touch more on those topics
Love your videos because you're always so relatable! My parents immigrated to the US before I was born and never had the opportunity to bring me back to visit. I moved to Mexico a few years ago and it was my 1st time truly experiencing the culture and way of life. I've posted videos on my Tiktok of some culture shocks that I've encountered (as well as things I love, way of life, etc). I've gotten some hateful comments from people calling me a "white wash b****," "foreign invader." etc. I hate when people categorize you as "real mexican" or "fake mexican." Makes no sense. Regarding Yahritza and Su Esencia's remarks, I blame lack of media training, as you said.
Damn, people are so mean. I can’t stand that “us vs them” mentality… where in Mexico do you live?
@@EatBailaTravel San Luis Potosí and loving it!
what a great video my heart breaks every time for all the immigrants that leave mexico for survival and can’t take the fruits of their labor back to mexico when they wish because if immigration status this changes the nature and nurture of the offspring in a way nobody will understand u less u are the first generation like us chicanos ❤❤❤❤❤
thanks so much for your comment ❤️
I’m a retired music teacher and am blown away by Yahritza, not just her singing but her songwriting skills at such a young age. She has a very rare gift and if what they say is true, that she taught herself how to sing, write and play guitar, then she is a force of nature. She wrote her song Soy El Único at the age of 13.
I don’t listen to regional Mexican music as I’m more of a Chente and Luis Miguel kind of gal, but Yahritza’s talent has me listening to everything she has composed up to now. She also has song writing credits on Frágil and Las Flores, both of which are beautiful songs. I want her to continue writing and growing as a musician. She could be one of the greats in the future and I will support her because of her talent.
Aww, I love that. Thank you for choosing to spotlight her talents as opposed to her mistakes
@@EatBailaTravel yes of course! I taught middle and high school and know at that age kids don’t always know how to act and you have to try to cultivate the good that is there. I seriously haven’t seen talent like this on a long time and I think it would be a shame if Mexico rejects her. Thank you for the response.
Bravo !! Love this episode And thank you🙏🏻 many artist from Mexico like Thalia or Alejandra G. They said b4 they don’t like Mexico for the delinquency , so what ? Not a big deal, others for the smoke or the noise snd no one make such a big deal 🤷🏻♂️
Leave the children alone! She is only 16
And have a great voice 🙌🏻
agreed
There are "fresas" in México that would have similar reactions (scoff at soda in a baggie too) Also, there are lots of Mexicans who hate Banda and Norteño music, and look down on those genres.
absolutely!
I believe they are innocent. They were not prepared answer the questions it was pure honesty. Many Mexicans also do not like certain foods or the way of life of the U.S. if they really never traveled and were not exposed it is not their fault. Its innocence.
That's how I see it too. They had no idea what a lion's den they were walking into and their management failed to prepare them for the press. Now anything they say will be misconstrued to make them look worse and the bullying will continue. People suck.
🥺 yea, right on, both of you
Believe me I was always cultured shocked going to Mexico. I was home sick and my language it's Spanglish. They are proud being Mexican but they are in Washington they are hard workers. We need to support each other no matter what our culture needs to become more accepting.
@@monicaramirez584 I completely support them. I saw how devastated their parents were about the bullying and felt exactly the same way as a mother. Yes they should have been more tactful but that’s no excuse for how they are being treated.
I grew up in and around Barrio Logan in San Diego, born to a LARGE Mexican family on my mothers side. I'm second generation Mexican and 4th generation Irish on my fathers side. I'll admit I got a little bit triggered when you guys were talking about that fight in 1996, flooded by so many memories...that word, pocha... still hurts. All my life I was never fully accepted in the neighborhoods. I looked too much like my father, white. I think all the comments I received as a young, sensitive, girl growing up made me feel like I'd never fit in anywhere. I still feel that way. I wonder if that's part of why I worked really hard to perfect my Spanish...And people are always shocked it's so good, like because of my face I shouldn't speak it without an accent. You can't win. It was very strange too being all at once told I needed to hold strong to my roots, speak Spanish without and accent, then being praised for my fairness and watching my mother bleach her skin and hair doing her very best impression of Kelly Bundy
I am similar to you, except I am Welsh/Peruvian - you accept you, I know I don't want to be anyone else and I love me and every part about it - you sound like a great person and has a strong sense of identity but I must say it took awhile to get there myself but here I am. Still, what helped is that most people who make these kind of negative comments are arseholes and I wouldn't pay any more credence to what they think than a barking dog.
🥺 you got me right in the feels! stories like yours are common and often overlooked 😔
@@billyhughes805 I love that, I'm going to have to picture a chihuahua barking next time I have to deal with a negative person like that. Thank you!
Youre american not mexican
@@jlopez4963 🐕🐕🐕🌬
As a Chicano, MX is the motherland, The US is The homeland, and Spain is the deadbeat Father that wants nothing to do with us all lol, He spends more time with his other child Argentina. 😄
Lmao! Never heard this one, and I love it.
Spain is ghey
"Do you guys like Mexican food?" lmao, I've been asked that as well but here in the U.S. Insane how easily perception shifts. Overall I would agree with your viewpoints on the situation.
lol
I agree, they need media training. They could have made it big in Mexico but they are naive and when they were called out on it they chose arrogance.
Mexicans (in Mexico) don’t understand the struggles of immigrants in the US and I agree they see us as less than. If they only knew that success in the US isn’t a guarantee and that we don’t get “tierras” inherent to us - we buy them.
it makes me sad to see our people divided. Maybe in the future we could share more chicano/immigrant stories to try to bring people together.. would it work? idk
I don't see any arrogance in them, but that may be because I am more Americanized than many. Can you tell me why Mexico thinks they are arrogant? I only felt sorry for them because I saw them as unprepared for interviews with the media.
I literally have no idea what the fuss is all about! Talk about making a mountain of a molehill. "Twitter fingers" - that's exactly it.
yep, people made a huge deal out of something that was, in the grand scheme of things, quite insignificant
@@EatBailaTravel exacto! I know at least six Mexicans here in CDMX whose favourite food is sushi. Should they be cancelled too? 😂
@@ba8898 it’s not the same thing, let’s use your case as an example, if those six Mexicans went to the US and made it big with a band, but then started criticizing the US, food, history and culture and language and The same criticism will follow.🤷🏻♂️
I understand feeling offend by not liking the food (though it’s an opinion, who cares), but the comment on Mexico City being noisy isn’t a comment on Mexico? It’s a comment on living in one of the biggest metropolitan areas. It’s hard to sleep at night, pointing that out isn’t disrespectful, some people (INCLUDING MEXICANS) like space and quiet. Every culture/group will have gate keepers and this is one that I’ve had to ignore my whole life living in the US (planning on moving to SLP).
Yea, goes to show you how people just went completely overboard with their reactions to such silly comments. Cool that you’re moving to SLP! I’m curious why you chose there?
Good topic for you guys! I've been getting annoyed at the memes too. It's clear that for a lot of people, if you're dark skinned, you should know your place and that means not speaking English or eating what you like apparently.
on point!!
Love this video, I feel 100% the same as you both and specially some of the comments Kevin has pointed out. I’m here like yup yup yup. I AGREE!
Glad you feel you can relate!
I was born in Mexico lived in Los Angeles all my life personally I thought it was dumb what they said, What I've seen if you insult Mexico the culture and the food that's really bad specially the Mexican cuisine its one of the best in the world. and what's happening is not racism they (knowing or not knowing) offended Mexico & the Mexican people. example same thing is happening to Pepe Aguilar's Daughter. Angela Aguilar during the World Cup she said that she had some Argentinian blood in her, and she was sheering for Argentina when they played Mexico and now she's not feeling arenas even her dad tried to apologize and its not working. the sad part for these kids if Mexico doesn't accept them back they won't make it.
These is not RACISM they insulted the Mexican people and the culture that all. And since you been there you know Mexicans don't hold back they say what they are thinking. and unfortunately in the states any criticism its Racist. and I saw there apology and there apology was fake in my opinion. life is about decisions one bad decision can ruin you. please don't say that Mexico is Racist these kids messed up... Our culture in the USA(and I live here in the US) everything you say do its Racist in Mexico its not like that you should know by now
💯%...
But if people criticize y'all, y'all get butthurt easily...
@@andygonzalez3939
It’s not about getting butt hurt here is we’re couture comes in. For me I didn’t care what they said and that’s how we are here in the USA people in the us criticize the US burn the US flag 🇺🇸 say these country is racist we’re the Flag as shirts underwear table cloths stomp on it and most of us don’t care because in the US that’s permissible you can criticize anything and everyone gives you a pass that’s how we are in the US.
Try using the Mexican flag 🇲🇽 as shorts bikinis burn it whatever and you might get arrested you criticize the Country, Food and there the way they live that doesn’t fly there it’s coa
The culture in Mexico 🇲🇽 very different then here in the states and people will speak there mind. Don’t know if you heard a tourist was in Dubai and the lady raised her voice only didn’t hit nobody just screaming at someone and she got arrested any were we visit let’s be respectful to the people there and respect there culture and focus on the good and few people are as welcoming as the Mexican people. People that said crap to these Kids they were not Butt hurt they were pissed off. For most of us in the US we didn’t care we probably took it as something dumb and or stupid they said!!
We’re ever we go let’s Respect the Culture of that country
@@richardcelaya8605 I'm not defending Yahritza, I get that they may have come off as condescending but I just don't think it warranted this extreme response. Especially the fact that our paisas used this as an excuse to generalize a whole group of people, which did kind of tick me off because I'm Mexican American. If y'all want to talk about Yahritza, talk about them, but don't bring other people that had nothing to do with this.
Mexico City is the largest city in the world... it has EVERYTHING a person could want... My friends and I went to a restaurant in Mexico City whose name I forget...BUT their napkins have a black and white cow on them... It was a large bizzy place on cinqo or just off it...... full to capacity... we had breakfast and then started on beers... and before we knew it had turned into lunchtime... we were never rushed... we asked for menus and had lunch there late into the afternoon...... again we were never rushed ... the food was awesome and so was our waitress.. only In Mexico City can such a great experience happen... . ... Noise? what noise? I was in the worlds largest city loving it for being what it is... Next stop was Caoyacan.... Fridas house.. I think those children are kids dealing with some fame without a manager to guide them... someone should step up to the plate...
Mexico City sucks. I prefer Santiago de Querétaro.
City life isn’t for everybody though. Some people genuinely prefer not to live there
we just moved to Mexico City and have lots of mixed emotions about it! planning on making it the topic of our next video. We will be on the lookout for that restaurant with the black and white cow on the napkins 😁
@@EatBailaTravel Roma is supposed to be a great neighborhood.
Second largest. Tokyo is bigger.
Both of you hit the nail on the head. As a Mexican-American I’ve had family members criticize me for my ‘lack’ of Mexican culture and how I sometimes mispronounce certain words in Spanish. Which has hurt me deeply. I pride myself on being multicultural and bilingual, so when another Mexican tells me I’m not Mexican enough it makes me feel like I don’t belong anywhere. I really resonate with the Selena movie scene because as Mexican-Americans we do have to be twice as perfect.
Es triste que haya pasado algo así. Es bueno estar entre dos cultural pero a veces puede ser dificil.
así es
Apoco usa tiene cultura 👍?
@@ACGBlaser USA tiene la cultura de las Armas.. lOl
This was a great video. I feel the same, they are kids.
I think I'm going to order a shirt. I'm going to CDMX finally next month. Really excited 😊
The grey shirt is the softest material just fyi ;) I used to have it in white and I wore the heck out of it, stained it and needed a new one so I tried the grey. The black one was also soft. Anyway, thanks for your support! Wear it proudly! 🤗❤️🇺🇸🇲🇽
Yo ni sabia de la existencia de estos jóvenes. Pero escuchando lo que dijeron no me parece ofensivo. Creo que es la manera en que lo expresaron. Siento pena por ellos y su ignorancia. En fin, mis mejores deseos para estos jóvenes mexico-americano.
sí se mal-expresaron ... gracias por su comentario!
LO QUE USTEDES NO QUIEREN ENTENDER ES QUE SI NO LE GUSTA MEXICO, QUE NO SE PROMOCIONEN EN MEXICO. QUE SE PROMOCIONEN EN WASHINGTON. ASI DE FACIL.
Estos días la gente ya no se promociona así. La gente los hace famosos en el internet. Y los chamacos no dijeron que que no les gustaba mexico dijeron que no les gustaba la Ciudad de México. Pero pues ya todo mundo lo interpreto como quiso.
Do it like me, while in Mexico, I spoke in English to my nephew who doesn't speak enough Spanish. Somebody told me "Ya se te olvido el espanol?" in a very sarcastic way, I just told him, "Chinga tu madre buey!" Problem solved.
Lol such a mexican response!
They have a talent and a gift they give to the world if they weren’t who they were you wouldn’t have that.
Very true
Another very well done video. Keep up the great work. Saludos… 🇲🇽
Thank you very much! Saludos Robert 🤗
We were all in Mexico when the little Ethiopian boy who loved quesadillas and wanted to be Mexican became a national treasure and was on the news and Mexican people and the media were very positive about him and liked the popular saying by Chavela Vargas 'Mexicans are born wherever they please' but yeah, they're kids and we all say and do daft things as kids or I know I did - as for yourselves - you're Mexican citizens - you are legally entitled to run for political office - if anyone questions your Mexican identity just point to the law that says they're wrong. I am sure there are Mexican-Americans who will never take out Mexican citizenship and find themselves more American than Mexican but that aint you.
I am British but have Peruvian citizenship and my Spanish isn't stellar and when people have criticised my Spanish abilities - I go 'yeah, but my Quechua is amazing' unless I am in the Sierra - they're knowledge of Quechua is going to be the same as mine! 🤣 a good point that can be discussed is should Spanish be a yardstick of being Mexican or Peruvian or whatever when it is the language of the conqueror of those lands and was forcibly implemented on the native peoples? Especially when a lot of those people cannot speak the indigenous languages or even worse - look down on them?
Lol I like your lighthearted approach to your identity. I agree, spanish ability shouldn't be a determinant for one's identity. And, that kid was adorable, but man we give the internet too much power
As a Chicano I feel the same way as you guys do. I didn’t like their comments, but the overreaction is kinda ridiculous.
Also, it’s important to mention that they’re not city kids. Their family is from rural Michoacán, and they grew up in rural Washington. This context is important to understand why they didn’t seem to like Mexico City as much
yes yes yes, but the internet doesn't care about context 🙄
I went to a sold out Yahritza show here in San Antonio a few months back. The reality is, this issue isn't that serious, it just tends to catch headlines on social media and people run with it. In the real world, they have fans and people dont't care all that much about a comment about not liking food. It serves as an example of how the internet can make up issues and make them seem bigger than what they are, but in reality, it isnt a huge deal.
Love this!!!
Yo estoy de acuerdo con ustedes dos, nosotros llevamos a nuestos hijos a Guatemala por primera ves. y fue un gran shock de cultura. Por mucho que uno trate de esplicar como es no es lo mismo ir experimentarlo en persona. Ellos hasta se enfermaron del estomago y yo también. No se pudo ser le differencia en el agua no se. Pero el punto es que ellos se quejaron de lo mismo el ruido y la comida pero quieren ir otra vez y vamos a ir otra vez ahora que tenemos los recursos para ir. La differencia es que mis hijos me lo diejieron a mi y no en cámara para que lo vieran miles de personas y los esplique a ellos que esta bien pero se van a tener que acostumbrar porque ahora vamos a ir todos los anos para que amprendan mas del la cultura. En fin yo los miro a ellos como si fueran mis hijos, les dirían que aprendan de sus errores y que sigan adelante.
aw, cómo quisiera que el mundo tuviera tu empatía! Qué lindo que lleves a tus hijos a conocer a sus raíces y que te tengan a ti como guía en todo eso
@@EatBailaTravel en vez de amenasarlos de que nunca regresen a Mexico deverian de motivarlos a que regresen mas seguido para que aprendan mas a apreciar la cultura. No estoy de acuerdo de como se espressaron en la entrivista pero para alguien quien dice que son personas apprecian su cultura no la estan represantando de buena manera con tratar de destruirlos en ves de levantarlos. Pero cada quien con su manera de pensar.
As a Mexican/American who grew up at my grandparents in Sonora as a child. Coming from Mexican immigrant parents I can relate. When I went back to Mexico in the mid 2000s to live with my grandparents . Check this out Spanish is my first language. In Mexico when people found out I was from Arizona some would call me,”eres una pocha”! Que haces aquí. My nana would yelled at the bullies and defend me. Here in the U.S especially during Trump’s presidency. I had white folks tell me when they would hear me speak Spanish. “Go back to Mexico”😂 I was like WTF! I was born here dude lol Ni de aquí ni de allá. I would say this tho. In the last 10 years I have seen a positive change when it comes to Mexicans and Mexican/Americans our relationship between us improving. Don’t want to get into politics but I feel like Trumps racism has United Latinos in general. A lot of younger Mexicans I have noticed going to Mexico , on social media and after George Floyd. That people are finally realizing that divide and conquer is not the way to go. Like I said in the last 10 years I haven’t had any Mexican when I go to Mexico use that term. I also think that the president of Mexico AMLO has United Mexicans in general. At the end of the day was it dumb what those kids said yes. They are better ways to say things. At the same time not everyone has to like a certain type of food. Last time I checked Mexico is a free country. People can like whatever the hell they want. El Que se enoja pierde. These conversations are important to keep having. Keep up the great work guys❤ Saludos de Arizona✌️
If somebody does not speak spanish in speak English.
I do not say I preferre Speak Spanish I feel more comfortable.
You speak the language according to the situation.
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I think they're young rural kids from a very quiet area in the Pacific Northwest who were suddenly thrust into one of the largest most vibrant cities in the world & it overwhelmed them a little. Also it's natural for people to love the food from the area they grew up in. But I also respect the Mexican people's reaction. You have to defend your home. I asked you guys via Insta if you thought the Mexican food in Chicago was better than San Diego & you said Yes. My Mexican friends here in San Diego think that's crazy. And another guy from New Jersey said the Mexican food there is the best. There's no right or wrong answer. I'm from London & think the Indian & Jamaican food in London is the best. Just human nature. Keep up the great work.
Lol, then we need to visit San Diego and you need to tell us your favorite Mexican food spots! And we will make a video talking about Mexican food in San Diego vs Chicago and see who comes out on top. You're right, there's no right answer, but it's still fun to explore! 😁
Thank you for attempting to explain something only Mexican Americans understand. I've live through the Chicano movement and proudly call myself Chicana. To add to your research there is Linda Ronstadt and Vickie Carr who sang in Spanish but were not fluent in Spanish. To acculturate is sometimes a survival thing only those that have to do it understand.
I taught my self to read and write Spanish. I love Mexico and I want to go and live there but I also know I am not Mexican enough. These kids are being bullied, that's all. It sad that the President of Mexico got into the controversy and bullied the kids. Understanding cultural difference and embracing humanity is the key. ❤
thanks so much for sharing your perspective ❤️
I am 10generation from Texas I'm CHICANO AMERICANO and proud my family has fought and served in every war to defend my beautiful united states we brought horses cattle religion the first cowboys our familias we had to stop gringo's from murdering our familias community's to fight for our rights to vote I don't have family in Mexico but I enjoy going on vacation but Im not going to try to tell them to speak English you have to be respectful and when they come here why don't they try to speak English
RESPECT is so important!
Thank you
Because Spanish was spoken in the USA before Anglos arrived. Chicanos know the truth and we know that we aren’t the foreigners here.
for me it wasn't that they didn't like Mexican food in mex is fine. It's the interview where she is admonishing the interviewer for speaking to her in Spanish. And in other interviews where she makes faces when asked about mex. especially since their whole fan base speaks Spanish and they sing in Spanish and gotta rich from it😮
it is problematic in so many ways, I agree
Sounds like they were overwhelmed by Mexico City and homesick. Where they are from is pretty rural and quiet.
Yea definitely
I’m glad you brought this topic for discussion. I am a Chicana as well, and have been planning on coming to Mexico to live. I often think of what kind of channel I want to open (Spanish vs English) once I establish myself in Mexico 🇲🇽. Although I would have more revenue from opening an English Channel, and help other Chicanos with the process of dual citizenship, struggles and what not, I think Spanish would be better as it makes more sense to speak the language in the country I am residing at. Again, this is just my humble opinion. As for these kids, I agree that they lack the importance of embracing the Mexican culture. If they want to be considered in the “Mexican culture “. They have to speak and sing to their target audience. On the other hand, yeah they have a say in what language they want or need to speak, but again, they have to take into consideration their audience/ spectators.
Why not make videos in both languages? I’m a Mexican American and have no problems in any of the countries, but maybe because I can represent both well. I don’t know.
we've been wanting to post videos in both languages for a long time, but haven't figured out the best way to execute it. A second channel? Filming the same video twice in each language? We tried this one but it's not sustainable for us. It's been a struggle. UA-cam is working on rolling out a feature that allows you to upload an additional audio file to offer dubbed options in other languages - the catch is you still need to make the audio file yourself. We tried doing it for this video but we don't have the feature available yet.
This is an interesting topic and is very common all over the world. There are millions of Turkish-Germans, for example, who say the same thing: in Germany they are considered Turks, in Turkey they are (negatively) seen as Germans.
I had the positive experience when I immigrated to the US, I was 30 years old, to be accepted as an American in the US. Probably, because the US always has been a country of immigrants. In my home country, though, my former neighbors called me a traitor.
Mexicans, as I noticed, are fiercly patriotic, I would say even much more than Americans. So I am not surprised that this incident here created a shitstorm. I called a good friend of mine, who was born in Mexico and grew up and lives in the US, very brave, when she went to an US-Mexico soccer game and proudly waved the US flag. That is the experience of normal people who happen to be "at home" in two countries.
Now, when it comes to "public people," like this band, things get way more complicated. What could be seen as innocent comments on food and urban environment in Mexico City became scandalous. As Jenny said, they obviously lack any media experience. Unfortunately, what you can say privately is not always fit for public statements. That may be sad, but it is a fact. If you want to be a celebrity, you need to be aware of these things. I think their comments were pretty stupid and now they receive the reward.
And yes, that all shows the shallowness of the "internet generation." The same people criticizing this band probably will stand in line in CDMX for Starbucks and McDo and not even think about it. Welcome to the "you tube world."
well said, amigo! Did you immigrate to the US from a European country? I'm glad you were accepted as an immigrant. I wish that same sense of welcome was common for immigrants from non-European countries 😏
@@EatBailaTravel Yes, I came from Western Europe. But actually, most legal immigrants in the US nowadays come from Asia, Europe contributes only a relatively small number. But I am grateful to be here - and as you know, now am thinking of retiring in Mexico :D
Thank you for the video! Super interesting topic 🫶
Glad you enjoyed it!
You are more acquainted with various classes in Mexico than I am and I think you are probably right about this. My familiarity with Mexico comes from books and UA-cam channels. My wife is Salvadoran so I understand ES culture more. We are planning travel to Mexico in the coming year. Your videos have provided much valued information and insight. Thank you for responding to my comment. Stephen
The snowflakes that are getting all riled up about their comments need to calm down! These are kids, and their complaints were nonsensical and minor but again they are kids! Canadian here, lived and worked in Mexico for nearly 5 years, absolutely love the place, the culture and the people. Are their problems in Mexico, of course like anywhere else!! but there are a lot of positives too. My question is whose is giving advice to these kids, they should have been prepped for this tour and interviews, who ever that person is, they should be fired ASAP.
seriously, people are quick to act self-righteous
They need to learn how to be humble that's what people hate I grew up in Monterrey but I teach my kids to be humble and never put other cultures down even though they are born Mexican Americans so let's not make excuses they acted arrogant and thats unfortunate for them hope they learn from their mistakes God bless and take care
I agree, I also hope they learn from this.
General rule is not to insult the country/state/or city that you are visiting or catering to. It is just common sense and is illustrated in just about every public event "good to be here in the 'fine' 'great' city of [insert name here] " or similar verbiage. The last video was imo also very rude. Prior to Jenny mentioning the movie Selena, I thought of the scene where she was doing the interview and spoke in English. Difference is that she spoke positive about MX. This group would do good to watch and learn from that movie. Lastly, who doesn't want to be woken up at 7am to the recording of "se compran colchones, tambores, refrigeradores..."
Common sense to adults. Also kids in the USA especially are brought up these days to say whatever they want and respect is just not a thing to so many!!
Unfortunately common sense isn’t always as common as we’d think 🥴 and your last sentence lmao 🤣 thanks for the laugh
Its interesting to me i am Amerindian my family is from the Americas. Although we are Anasazi and Maya, to name a couple. In the US the narrative is that I and people who look like me are African and we are not. When i heard that they compared these chidren to Indigenous Mexicans, and it was meant as an insult- yet these are some of the same people saying they should honor their culture ??!!? Make that make sense. Indigenous Americans- North, Central and South of precolonial era were coppered colored people with phenotypes displayed throughout Mexico's sacred places, muesums, ect. How can looking like the people of the land be preceived as an insult. Seems like their is healing and perhaps education needed, in both the US, and Mexico.
Nice try but ignorance is not a defense in the 21st century, they should have done their research. I’m from CA and my parents are from Mexico and I blocked Yaritza bc of this
Totally understandable. Everyone is free to consume or not consume their work. They lost your patronage for dumb things they said and that’s fair. I think other people took it too far with the name calling and racialized insults.
Most importantly was the attitude, major point with every sine they just started out and had a public image to uphold as such. If they were not holding such standards as a regular person then the comments would be long forgotten in a sea of everyday life.
I support Yaritza 🇺🇸🇲🇽
thanks for your comment!