@@AlHakamOnline this is not history. History is where your ancestors lost the wars and becomes slaves in your own home. imagine bunch of outsiders beating the shit out of you in your own home
@@salahjanjuah2215 Just as I expected 🙄 you’re incapable of grasping the arguments presented and responding with facts. Everyone in the comments can see you making a fool of yourself
@@roziurrahman1094 Whatever that means, I do know that Moses was preaching under the authroity of Pharaoh, Jesus under the Romans and so it's not unknown for prophets to work under non-believer's laws. Moses and Jesus left their homeland because their work became impossible but that was not the case in India. It is the case in Pakistan so the Khalifah has had to leave that country.
@@roziurrahman1094 Because they were both condemned by the authorities while Mirza Ghulam Ahmad was found innocent of all the charges brought against him under British law in India. It was his Islamic duty to express gratitude to those who created the system and environment where he could freely practice, preach and teach his understanding of Islam, unlike some so called Islamic states and communities now who teach hatred and conflict especially towards people of different views.
This is an amazing program! especially for the new generation who are ever so misguided and fall trap to falsehood! Thank you for shining some much needed light on this! 👏👏👏
As a non ahmedi Muslim I wholeheartedly agree with you about the hypocrisy of many of our religious leaders But also let’s salute those who did stand upto justice Al alam Al shamikh Favorite pastime of nonwhites is to blame the white man for everything
Very astute observation. You seem like a educated man. May I suggest a book for you to read or lsiten to thr free audio version? It's called 'The philosophy of the teaching of Islam' by Mirza Ghulam Ahmad AS. Would love to hear your thoughts? You can stream it for free on your be or Spotify
Very good information. As a non-Ahamedi, I appreciate the intellectual integrity of the scholar and the presenter. The British Empire saved Islam and Muslims.
HAhHHAhahahah saved Islam???? The British? You need serious help!!!! Go read history books so that you can see the truth. To even claim that, what a disgrace. Then you say you a non-ahmadi, what a filthy lie.
@@saliehassan5667 exactly, a miser Ahmedi, they and the rest of the Christian apologetics are very similar. All are a bunch of deceivers pretending to be Muslims whereas you will never see a Muslim pretending to be of a different faith.
If most don’t know it how can you follow someone who you don’t know this about? How can most people not know about him? It’s been 120 years and there has been the advent of social media. Yet, most of humanity doesn’t even know who he is. Most Ahmadi don’t even know what Mirza wrote. I’ve read his writings. He was a blatant Kafir and liar. He claimed to be Isa Ibn Maryam. He also claimed to be the reincarnation of Muhammad SAW among other being in one body in the literal sense. Mahdi and Isa (AS) don’t come to preach a new religion with new articles of faith they were to adhere strictly to the Qur’an and Sunnah of Muhammad SAW. Yet Mirza was receiving revelation and writing books? He failed to marry Muhammadi Begam even though he “prophesied” that he would. He said even one failed prophecy is enough to call him a liar. So I am. Abandon this cult and accept Islam.
@roziurrahman1094 0 seconds ago I now understand history tells us Mirza was namak halal by his own admission of the British empire who carried out atrocities
Superb conversation. Very enlightening. It would be wonderful if you can leave a Google doc in the video description with sources and references from the video as an appendix of sorts. For a model of this, please see any video by Johnny Harris.
This Basit kadyani host of MTA channel is afraid of Imtiyaz sahib and Adnan sahib, he can not answer their questions and dallying dilling in answers and try to play dajal and frabs in his reply.
Watch the podcast first before commenting. Rasoollah praised Negus who was the head of a colonial empire Axum and a Christian king. Rasoollah praised his freedom and justice. But an empire is an empire. Think logically before
Moses and Jesus had no resason to praise the national leaders of their homelands. Mirza Ghulam Ahmad as Imam Mahdi and Promised Messiah of the last lawbearing and most perfect prophet was free from any condemnation by authorities. He had reasons to praise the law of his time for it enabled him to defend Islam from the assaults of Christians and Hindus. For this work he was praised by all around him. He in turn praised the British who's law protected him so he could continue his work. As they do now in protecting his khalifahs, otherwise his work could not continue. All praise is due to Allah for defending His chosen servants and allowing the true message of Islam to be conveyed all around the world..
This is the most stupidest answer I've ever heard. If moses praised phoarah on lie for whatever reasons, later generations would be confused on the matter. Whereas prophets are there to bring clarity to the matter.
you don’t understand. the british could not control the mass population if it tried to forcibly convert. still there were missionaries who managed to convert the banglaroians & small pockets here & there.
@@roziurrahman1094 He never even claimed to be those persons physically so reference to different mothers is not applicable. Also every prophet is also a Mahdi.
Question is in the process of protecting these shrines, how much of Islam was hijacked! Muslims did not start believe that Jesus was coming back out of nowhere! I understand our markaz is in UK, but call a spade a spade. Looking at what British did with indigenous communities in Canada, and left Palestine to fend for itself, British have not done anything out of goodness of its heart or for free! Also Basit sahib, can you sound less angry!
Please can we have the documents presented by Asif Sahib in a single file? They are indeed very useful. The back of the Anti Ahmadies is broken with these evidences.
My dear Izhar Khan, the great thing about history is that one can go back and review it for themselves. And I resent your accusation that Ahmadis are gullible and believe anything. Alhumdolillah we are god fearing and have intelligence to decipher truth from falsehood. It’s a shame your ego has put you on the path of utter humiliation and destruction. Humble yourself and perhaps Allah may have mercy on you again.
@@SwordOfAllah7860 as an example the Sherif McMahon correspondence proved to be a betrayal of the Arabs by the British who never wanted there to be a United Arab nation following the defeat of the Ottomans. Basit is very clever in concealing the real intentions of the British Empire. I suggest you read Line in the Sand, a book that describes the Sykes Picot pact and its consequences. Basit doesn’t even mention it. Once I have time I will respond point by point inshallah.
A Muslim is a Person who believes in the Final Message of Prophet Muhammed SAW of 1400 years ago. Mirza claimed to be a Mahdi and then he became Jesus in his 2nd Coming,..... This is what made Mirzayat or Ahmadi a NEW Religion, different from Islam of Prophet Muhammed of 1400 years ago.
The very fact this podcast had to be done, is enough for me to know I made the right decision leaving Jamaat e Ahmadiyya. I cannot believe my generation are still blinded by this.
You serious? Open your eyes, the propaganda that Ahmadis are British agents is so widespread amongst Muslims of course this is an important topic to cover. What are you talking about.
And what is your generation please do tell? And what Islam are you now inviting Ahmadis too? Brelvi, Shia, Deobundi, Sufi, ahle Hadith, Wahabi, Ismaili?
Cheap shot mr khan, have you run out of real intellectual discussion points already? Since you have made the comment, I would request that you swear an oath to Allah that may he destroy you if you are lying about this accusation. Let’s test your mettle
The irony Mr Khan is that you as a man of medical science gave up on the Messiah of our times who proved from Quran categorically that Isa Ibn Maryam has indeed passed away, and instead jumped ship and embraced the absurd belief that Isa Ibn Maryam was physically raised into heavens and has been living wherever that heaven is for the past 2000 years in his earthly body. I wonder if the UK medical board are aware of your absurd quack beliefs, they should certainly revoke your license to practice and certify you as medically insane and incompetent.
@@bhattibhatti9494 appreciated, it’s a modern world where you can seek the truth quite easily. Information is at your finger tips so I will not waste my time justifying to heretics. Allah has plenty of surprises in store for them in the here after.
@@MrFaizanhfunny you say that. Which books have you read of Hazrat Mirza Ghulam Ahmad AS since they are readily available for you to seek the actual truth? Becusee the truth is available people don't necessarily make a conceded effort to get to the bottom of it. Case and point. Which books have you read of Hazrat Mirza Ghulam Ahmad AS start to finish? Maybe here is a good start for you so you get to the bottom of of this. The name of the book is 'The philosophy of the teaching of Islam' maybe listen to the free audio but either way please share your insights into the scams shared in this book? Please help bring us to the right path.. Need your help.
@@bhattibhatti9494 I know you were. So was I. I’m pretty aware of you misers and I don’t even take your occult seriously. Neither do other true Muslims.
@@newsocial1658 I see. Very astute observation. Your right. Their entire conversation has nothing to do with knowledge of anything. Where do I sign up for your you tube Chanel to get your hot takes on non knowledgeable matters?
@@newsocial1658 @newsocial1658 Ah there it is again. Your 'knowledge' and educated responses. I'll pass for now. Thanks for proving the obvious. Maybe work on your videos. 219 plus views on your top video. Maybe share something that's means sowmthing to someone. Kind of the opposite of what your doing here. :)
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I now understand history tells us Mirza was namak halal by his own admission of the British empire who carried out atrocities
@@AlHakamOnline this is not history. History is where your ancestors lost the wars and becomes slaves in your own home. imagine bunch of outsiders beating the shit out of you in your own home
Masha Allah 🎉 Jazakallah 🎉
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This is so good! Didn't know so many of these things... a real eye opener. I hope those who disagree come with proper evidence instead of mockery
Agreed!
Here’s some evidence 🚽🚽🚽🚽🚽
@@salahjanjuah2215 Just as I expected 🙄 you’re incapable of grasping the arguments presented and responding with facts. Everyone in the comments can see you making a fool of yourself
@@rambo1991-s9j are you blind? I gave you two facts.
An eye opener that Mirza was namak halal of the British empire by his own admission
very interesting and informative. Thank you very much. More like this please.
You got it!
@@qudsiaward interesting to know by mirza's own admission and words that he was a 'namak halal' of the British emipre
@@roziurrahman1094 Whatever that means, I do know that Moses was preaching under the authroity of Pharaoh, Jesus under the Romans and so it's not unknown for prophets to work under non-believer's laws. Moses and Jesus left their homeland because their work became impossible but that was not the case in India. It is the case in Pakistan so the Khalifah has had to leave that country.
@@qudsiaward but they didn't suck up to the barbaric British rule the way Mirza did and if so reference please.
@@roziurrahman1094 Because they were both condemned by the authorities while Mirza Ghulam Ahmad was found innocent of all the charges brought against him under British law in India. It was his Islamic duty to express gratitude to those who created the system and environment where he could freely practice, preach and teach his understanding of Islam, unlike some so called Islamic states and communities now who teach hatred and conflict especially towards people of different views.
This is an amazing program! especially for the new generation who are ever so misguided and fall trap to falsehood!
Thank you for shining some much needed light on this!
👏👏👏
As a non ahmedi Muslim I wholeheartedly agree with you about the hypocrisy of many of our religious leaders
But also let’s salute those who did stand upto justice
Al alam Al shamikh
Favorite pastime of nonwhites is to blame the white man for everything
Very astute observation. You seem like a educated man. May I suggest a book for you to read or lsiten to thr free audio version? It's called 'The philosophy of the teaching of Islam' by Mirza Ghulam Ahmad AS. Would love to hear your thoughts? You can stream it for free on your be or Spotify
Wow more need to know this history!
@@ABT-ns1w yeah we found out about Mirza's own admission and words that he was a 'namak halal' of the British empire
Very good information. As a non-Ahamedi, I appreciate the intellectual integrity of the scholar and the presenter. The British Empire saved Islam and Muslims.
And what about the massacre, genocide, remember divide and rule.
@@roziurrahman1094 no need to ask this scoundrel anything, he’s an Ahmedi pretending to be a neutral Muslim like the rest of these clowns.
HAhHHAhahahah saved Islam???? The British? You need serious help!!!! Go read history books so that you can see the truth. To even claim that, what a disgrace. Then you say you a non-ahmadi, what a filthy lie.
@@saliehassan5667 exactly, a miser Ahmedi, they and the rest of the Christian apologetics are very similar. All are a bunch of deceivers pretending to be Muslims whereas you will never see a Muslim pretending to be of a different faith.
Very informative podcast. May Allah bless Islam Ahmadiyyat
Jazaka'Allah for the comment. More to come!
Here's the history most don't know!
If most don’t know it how can you follow someone who you don’t know this about?
How can most people not know about him? It’s been 120 years and there has been the advent of social media. Yet, most of humanity doesn’t even know who he is.
Most Ahmadi don’t even know what Mirza wrote. I’ve read his writings. He was a blatant Kafir and liar.
He claimed to be Isa Ibn Maryam. He also claimed to be the reincarnation of Muhammad SAW among other being in one body in the literal sense.
Mahdi and Isa (AS) don’t come to preach a new religion with new articles of faith they were to adhere strictly to the Qur’an and Sunnah of Muhammad SAW. Yet Mirza was receiving revelation and writing books?
He failed to marry Muhammadi Begam even though he “prophesied” that he would.
He said even one failed prophecy is enough to call him a liar. So I am.
Abandon this cult and accept Islam.
@roziurrahman1094
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I now understand history tells us Mirza was namak halal by his own admission of the British empire who carried out atrocities
because it never existed.
Very intresting program۔
As Salamu Alaykum Wa Rahmatullah Blessed stream Aameen ❤️...
Very good information that a lot of people don’t know and should know
Amazing stuff 👍👍
Glad you liked it!
Amazing because Mirza was namak halal of British empire
Superb conversation. Very enlightening. It would be wonderful if you can leave a Google doc in the video description with sources and references from the video as an appendix of sorts.
For a model of this, please see any video by Johnny Harris.
Did mirza say he is namak halal of british emire and also was he krishna?
Please answer
did you even watch the video ?
ofc the promised messiah as was not krishna
@@danstech2864 did he say he was namak halal of British empire?
@@roziurrahman1094 no i do not think so. He would mot have said this. Do you have proof that says otherwise ?
Namak halal? I think you have watched one to many Amitabh movies
Nice show. The last chapter, ‘ Why did he not condemn British atrocities?’ was not adequate though. Need to expand
Please invite Adnan Rashid.
Why waste their time on such a dishonest and vile person? I think he's proven his "academic honesty" enough to be absolutely zero.
@@bhattibhatti9494he has literally destroyed your religion and that Kafir Mirza Ghulam, the biggest Dajjal known to man so far.
This Basit kadyani host of MTA channel is afraid of Imtiyaz sahib and Adnan sahib, he can not answer their questions and dallying dilling in answers and try to play dajal and frabs in his reply.
Adnan Rashid only talks loud and disruptive typical of India TV.
Scared
This is what you call self hate. Selling your own people.
Could you include the links to the documents? I am writing a book and I need authentic citations.
Your so called prophet praised his colonial masters. If he was a messenger of Allah he would have stood up against the British oppressors.
Watch the podcast first before commenting. Rasoollah praised Negus who was the head of a colonial empire Axum and a Christian king. Rasoollah praised his freedom and justice. But an empire is an empire. Think logically before
Moses and Jesus had no resason to praise the national leaders of their homelands. Mirza Ghulam Ahmad as Imam Mahdi and Promised Messiah of the last lawbearing and most perfect prophet was free from any condemnation by authorities. He had reasons to praise the law of his time for it enabled him to defend Islam from the assaults of Christians and Hindus. For this work he was praised by all around him. He in turn praised the British who's law protected him so he could continue his work. As they do now in protecting his khalifahs, otherwise his work could not continue. All praise is due to Allah for defending His chosen servants and allowing the true message of Islam to be conveyed all around the world..
This is the most stupidest answer I've ever heard. If moses praised phoarah on lie for whatever reasons, later generations would be confused on the matter. Whereas prophets are there to bring clarity to the matter.
he sure seems a lot more confident in his echo chamber. he was visibly out of breath in front of Declan, Imtiaz and Adnan. 🤡
You’re definitely a fanboy of Adnan and Imtiaz. Ask them why they didn’t finish reacting to the whole video…
you don’t understand. the british could not control the mass population if it tried to forcibly convert. still there were missionaries who managed to convert the banglaroians & small pockets here & there.
How can we understand Mirza as being jesus, Mahdi, Krishna. Is it like trinity like Christians trinity, or even trimurti, tridev
Why don’t you read his books?
Understand it just as you understand Isa (as) as being a Nabi, a Rasul, and a Masih all in one.
We're talking about three different person, not in terms of occupation. Mirza is different because he is from another mother to the other two.
@@roziurrahman1094 He never even claimed to be those persons physically so reference to different mothers is not applicable. Also every prophet is also a Mahdi.
@@Asterius86 so is the spirit of Isa AS in mirza
Question is in the process of protecting these shrines, how much of Islam was hijacked! Muslims did not start believe that Jesus was coming back out of nowhere! I understand our markaz is in UK, but call a spade a spade. Looking at what British did with indigenous communities in Canada, and left Palestine to fend for itself, British have not done anything out of goodness of its heart or for free! Also Basit sahib, can you sound less angry!
Please can we have the documents presented by Asif Sahib in a single file?
They are indeed very useful. The back of the Anti Ahmadies is broken with these evidences.
Soon to be released as an article, insha'Allah.
Basit is deceiving poor Ahmadis. He is distorting history in the worst possible manner.
My dear Izhar Khan, the great thing about history is that one can go back and review it for themselves. And I resent your accusation that Ahmadis are gullible and believe anything. Alhumdolillah we are god fearing and have intelligence to decipher truth from falsehood. It’s a shame your ego has put you on the path of utter humiliation and destruction. Humble yourself and perhaps Allah may have mercy on you again.
Khan, it seems like you have an unhealthy obsession with this Basit gentleman
Izhar Khan maybe come with an actual answer & an academic response to his strong historical proofs rather than obsessing over him. Grow up.
@@SwordOfAllah7860 as an example the Sherif McMahon correspondence proved to be a betrayal of the Arabs by the British who never wanted there to be a United Arab nation following the defeat of the Ottomans. Basit is very clever in concealing the real intentions of the British Empire. I suggest you read Line in the Sand, a book that describes the Sykes Picot pact and its consequences. Basit doesn’t even mention it. Once I have time I will respond point by point inshallah.
@@rambo1991-s9j I cannot let him get away with his distortion of historical facts. He’s at best naive and at worst mendacious.
QUESTION.....QUESTION
DID Allama Iqbal praise British Rule..?
Answer Answer...did he claim to be appointed by God?....do you become children of the prostitutes by not believing and respecting what Iqbal wrote?
Why is the admin deleting my comments about the response to this video 🤣🤣🤣 too scared?
Baloch why do you delete my comments
@@SwordOfAllah7860 i did not bro
Translate all his books into english
First you watch the whole podcast and tell us what you disagree with
Why not read the ones that have been translated? Which books have you read? Maybe start with the book 'The philosophy of the teaching of Islam'
Mr Cake efforts are being made to do this. But I assume by your comment you have read the ones already in English?
A Muslim is a Person who believes in the Final Message of Prophet Muhammed SAW of 1400 years ago.
Mirza claimed to be a Mahdi and then he became Jesus in his 2nd Coming,..... This is what made Mirzayat or Ahmadi a NEW Religion, different from Islam of Prophet Muhammed of 1400 years ago.
Joke
Sure I got one for you. What did Mirza Engineer say to Adnan and Imtiaz?
The very fact this podcast had to be done, is enough for me to know I made the right decision leaving Jamaat e Ahmadiyya. I cannot believe my generation are still blinded by this.
You serious? Open your eyes, the propaganda that Ahmadis are British agents is so widespread amongst Muslims of course this is an important topic to cover. What are you talking about.
And what is your generation please do tell? And what Islam are you now inviting Ahmadis too? Brelvi, Shia, Deobundi, Sufi, ahle Hadith, Wahabi, Ismaili?
Mirza Sahib went beyond loyalty to the Raj. He even offered to spy for them.
proof ?
😮 no way, prove it!
Cheap shot mr khan, have you run out of real intellectual discussion points already? Since you have made the comment, I would request that you swear an oath to Allah that may he destroy you if you are lying about this accusation. Let’s test your mettle
The irony Mr Khan is that you as a man of medical science gave up on the Messiah of our times who proved from Quran categorically that Isa Ibn Maryam has indeed passed away, and instead jumped ship and embraced the absurd belief that Isa Ibn Maryam was physically raised into heavens and has been living wherever that heaven is for the past 2000 years in his earthly body. I wonder if the UK medical board are aware of your absurd quack beliefs, they should certainly revoke your license to practice and certify you as medically insane and incompetent.
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Also what is the nostril emoji doing there
Hell with Israel
Sod israel
What a load of bullshit by these bunch of scammers.
Great academic response 👏
@@bhattibhatti9494 appreciated, it’s a modern world where you can seek the truth quite easily. Information is at your finger tips so I will not waste my time justifying to heretics. Allah has plenty of surprises in store for them in the here after.
@@MrFaizanhfunny you say that. Which books have you read of Hazrat Mirza Ghulam Ahmad AS since they are readily available for you to seek the actual truth? Becusee the truth is available people don't necessarily make a conceded effort to get to the bottom of it. Case and point. Which books have you read of Hazrat Mirza Ghulam Ahmad AS start to finish? Maybe here is a good start for you so you get to the bottom of of this. The name of the book is 'The philosophy of the teaching of Islam' maybe listen to the free audio but either way please share your insights into the scams shared in this book? Please help bring us to the right path.. Need your help.
@@MrFaizanh I was being sarcastic 🤌 😂
@@bhattibhatti9494 I know you were. So was I. I’m pretty aware of you misers and I don’t even take your occult seriously. Neither do other true Muslims.
🤣🤣🤣🤣 nice comedy
Your lack of knowledge is absaloutly comedic.
@@ImranHabib knowledge got nothing to do with whatever conversation they’re having 🤣
@@newsocial1658 I see. Very astute observation. Your right. Their entire conversation has nothing to do with knowledge of anything. Where do I sign up for your you tube Chanel to get your hot takes on non knowledgeable matters?
@@ImranHabib you can sign up to your babe da kosa if you want to get knowledge Imran sahib 😂 yaadi da kosa
@@newsocial1658 @newsocial1658 Ah there it is again. Your 'knowledge' and educated responses. I'll pass for now. Thanks for proving the obvious. Maybe work on your videos. 219 plus views on your top video. Maybe share something that's means sowmthing to someone. Kind of the opposite of what your doing here. :)