You might like to recreate REAL events from WW2. Read "Fly for your Life", the biography of the Spitfire ace, Bob Stanford Tuck. He was alone over the North Sea and attacked by some 109s. He shot down three or four (I can't remember) but his Spitfire was damaged and he baled out. The combat was seen by a British trawler, which rescued him.
@@TJ3 IDEA FOR A FUTURE VIDEO: Read "The Big Show", the autobiography of the French Spitfire ace, Pierre Clostermann, He was flying a specialised high altitude Spitfire, to intercept photo-reconnaissance 109s. There was a chase. The 109 put his nose down They dived faster and faster. the 109 tried to pull out and his wings came off, a commonplace event with 109s in high-speed high-G turns.
Now i m watching these dogfights of planes, espicially those Spitfire remains me during mine younger days, around late fifties n early sixties, my dad used to buy comics of fighter planes from Britain against those from Germany during WW 2. 'BATTLER BRITAIN' thats the top fighter pilot flying a spitfire, my favourite..
Exactly what I was thinking, I would not get into a rate fight with a Spitfire. Bf 109’s are energy fighters, not dogfighters. As a fighter pilot I would never fight the other pilots fight unless I had such a sweet shot that I thought I could end it quickly, but if I missed then I would immediately try turning it into my fight.
The thing that gets me in these game videos is like when the spit is in a steep bank, the ailerons are deflecting opposite of the way they should be. A litter later the 109's control is right then it's wrong, all in the same scene from one movement to the next.
Why would you think they are deflected in the wrong direction ? Once the bank is established, the up wing is faster than the down wing, so it produces a little more lift you have to counteract this tendency by banking slightly opposite of the turn, if you don't your plane keeps rolling.
I think RAF pilots were flying on patrols in groups of two or four fighters. Alone spitfires had to report weather situation to OPS and they didn´t have to attack enemy planes 🤔
Soon after the invasion the Allies faced the problem of camouflaging their aircraft when they're situated at local airfields in France. To get rid of this, they decided to leave the stripes as they were beneath, so it was still possible to quickly identify Allied aircraft in the air (quite similar to the germans painting their noses yellow underneath). But to retain the ease of camouflaging planes the stripes were got rid of everywhere else.
120 rounds per gun for the two cannon and 350 rounds per gun for the two 0.5 machine guns. Plenty for short bursts of fire, good pilots did not waste ammunition.
@Dr Chad ThunderCock No, it depended on the version of each fighter. The best Bader flew in WW2 was the Spit Mk V, which the Fw190 outclassed. Along came the Spit Mk IX in later 1942 and 43 and the Germans were on their heels again.
What fuel is the spitfire using? Is it American 150 octane vs a 87 octane bf109? How about the bf109 get the same fuels see which is faster after a quick tune.
Good job with this video. Accurate dogfighting tactics and beautifully designed scenery and aircraft types. I do wonder though, what is the point of guys only in fighter aircraft shooting each other out of the sky? This presentation needed a few dozen Luftwaffe bombers to justify the RAF patrol and the German BF-109s escorts even being up there in the first place, right?
Usually it is. It could be a scramble, but still those have origin from Defense fighters against escorts. So yeah, no realistic point in that dogfight, but if realistically RAF saw some 109s coming even without reason they’d obviously shoot em down
Anyway, operationally during the Battle of Britain, the RAF tried to avoid wasting their fighters on patrols and seeking combat with fighters, their job was to knock down the bombers and avoid getting sucked into the type of battle the Germans wanted them to fight. Yes dogfights did occur & the British did send out fighter patrols, but they weren't considered ideal for the British
@@derricklarsen462 Especially after the official end of the Battle of Britain, in November & December 1940 when the Germans turned to using fighter-bomber nuisance raids & when the RAF started to offensively "lean into France"
@@mugsnvicki I don't think I've seen that episode (maybe I have??) so I don't know what he says but I'm going to speculate and say he thinks it's acceptable to use one or the other. Certainly, in the German records both prefixes are sometimes used for the 109. However, the fact remains that the Bf 109 was the product of another company that was eventually acquired by Messerschmitt, at the direction of the National Socialist state. The accepted convention in such circumstances is that the original designation, in this case Bf 109 remains in force. So, the 109 remains a Bf while the 410, for example, is rightly prefaced by Me. Just because a bunch of sloppy officials fail to adhere to the correct convention doesn't change what is, or is not, 'correct'.
@@mugsnvicki Yeah, on reflection I think I probably have seen it, and I also think I left a comment along the same lines as above. I'm nothing if not consistent.
@@tomcumby1118 So was I. You look at any UA-cam video of aero engines being fired up and you will see that the flames are in the blue spectrum when the engine is above tickover.
Creo que su computadora necesita tener una mejor tarjeta gráfica. Este es un juego exigente para el rendimiento de la computadora. Puede funcionar en una computadora con requisitos mínimos según lo especificado por el juego, pero la noche visual y tal vez incluso el rendimiento del juego sufren. Lo siento por el traductor de Google en español;)
A little history on the 303 Pols Squadron . They had a lot more kills than the Brits for the size of their group compared to other British Sqadrons of the same size they also received many medals for their gallantry . After the war was over they told the Pols well were done with you pretty much GTFO and go back to Poland . Poland was torn to pieces there was not much left to go back to. Also after the war they had a Victory Parade and the Pols where not invited because Churchill did not want to offend the Russians . One woman that was the daughter of one of the pilots from the 303 said it broke her dads heart . The 303 was some bad ass mofos they just wanted to kill Germans because of what they did to their country . Not down playing the Brits they are some bad ass's too and very tough
In these fantasy flight sims, the human player scores a hit kill with every attack while the AI flies around randomly for target practice. Why are these bf-109s not getting on the Spit's tail? Why are they flying around in no discernible formation? I mean, at 8:33 the bf-109 that was momentarily on the Spit's tail just dives into the sea for no good reason. It's good clean fantasy fun, but let's not pretend that it's anything like real battle simulation.
Looking at the tail fin it must be a Mk iiiv or Mk xii . A real action on the 25/5/43 when four Mk xii's shot down five Fw 190's for no loss , off Folkstone Kent.
Not so unrealistic, one lone Spitfire pilot shot down 4 and damaged a 5th Fw 190, then shot down another and damaged another Luftwaffe aircraft in a short time.
If it is based on real facts...polish pilot of 303 Division shot 4 Bf109 (the tails were without girders?) than it is fine. Polish pilots were the most experienced in the world during this time..had to struggle with Germans in Poland, then France, now UK...German fiigters could be good...had always better machines...now the Polish pilot got even better plane...so the results could be like this. The 303 Squadron used first the Hurricanes..but there were many other Polish Squadrons..in general 12 000 polish airmen (with all auxiliary service) were engaged in the UK. Polish Govenrment had to pay it with gold...as British said "this was your business, you were fighting against Germans for your country". So Churchill send an invoice for every bullet shot by e.g. this Spitfire.
Fyi blacking out when preforming high g turns wouldn't render pilot unconscious it just effects vision www pilots used black and grey outs in combat i.e. your blacked out so I your enemy therefore cannot see you
take your "level of experience" off "easy" or "don't hurt me" and see how you would do. Your tactics are suicidal down low. No way a spit can win against 4 109's. Other than that, love your channel.
Yeah, the fact that he was flying straight and level while these 109s fired their cannons wildly past him really shows what skill level the ai were. Try this against humans and you'd be dead in 2 seconds.
I suggest you make the Spitfire more graphically correct. There is only a single air scoop located under the starboard wing. Not 2 as in the first part of the cgi and not 1 midship as shown later.
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@OGTS Old Man Two Shoes All good! I appreciate the thought!
TJ3 ,GAMING. I really enjoy watching, your air combat .The take down's and the dog fight's. Keep bringing more good air combat VIDEO'S.
It’s a bf 109 not a me 109
You might like to recreate REAL events from WW2.
Read "Fly for your Life", the biography of the Spitfire ace, Bob Stanford Tuck. He was alone over the North Sea and attacked by some 109s. He shot down three or four (I can't remember) but his Spitfire was damaged and he baled out. The combat was seen by a British trawler, which rescued him.
@@TJ3 IDEA FOR A FUTURE VIDEO: Read "The Big Show", the autobiography of the French Spitfire ace, Pierre Clostermann, He was flying a specialised high altitude Spitfire, to intercept photo-reconnaissance 109s. There was a chase. The 109 put his nose down They dived faster and faster. the 109 tried to pull out and his wings came off, a commonplace event with 109s in high-speed high-G turns.
Showing the bullets hit the water surface! Excellent.
Now that is a Winged Hussar!
I just keep thinking of the line "Four in a day, shot down with engines burning" from Sabaton's song "The Red Baron".
I used to guard his engine.
Great video! No talking or music. Couldn't hit the subscribe button quick enough.
03:45 and 05:30, Spitfire pilot was heard clearing his throat.🤣
I love the spitfire. But the hawker hurricane is pretty good too not as good as the spitfire but still pretty damn good.
Josef Frantisek… WWII Ace who was so good he was allowed to fly out of formation and do his own thing.
Amazing video feels like you are really there. Always love SPITFIRES.
Wow what a video !!!! Top notch!!!!!
This game is just amazing
Now i m watching these dogfights of planes, espicially those Spitfire remains me during mine younger days, around late fifties n early sixties, my dad used to buy comics of fighter planes from Britain against those from Germany during WW 2. 'BATTLER BRITAIN' thats the top fighter pilot flying a spitfire, my favourite..
Good scrap mate, loved it! 👍
12:42
BF-109 pilot: time to bail out now
Great imagery!
Epic dogfight, keep them comin.
I think this one is the best yet.
Great video! Keep up the good work.
Good video my comrade,but i like the Bf-109 XD
They got into a turning fight with a spit fire
Exactly what I was thinking, I would not get into a rate fight with a Spitfire. Bf 109’s are energy fighters, not dogfighters. As a fighter pilot I would never fight the other pilots fight unless I had such a sweet shot that I thought I could end it quickly, but if I missed then I would immediately try turning it into my fight.
I am very impressed with the graphics of IL2...
Nice work!
Thoroughly enjoyed!
個
Your videos are nice. I like them
UK scouts in early 60's had subscription to Lion Monthly - comics and much more. A regular feature was RAF command.
Great Job!!
Lovely video, the vertical overshoot maneuver however was cream.
Nice editing. Prop hanging with the 109 on tail is an instant death. The Polish pilot was lucky to fight much worse pilots in those 109s ;)
Someone noticed!
Maybe in a MkI or Mk V Spifire. Not in a mk IX.
Been flying IL-2 for years. What experience level is AI set to? Germans seem passive. Are you using realistic damage and gunnery? Nice visuals.
I believe in this recording I had them set on Average, and yes I think so.
Do more of this
The thing that gets me in these game videos is like when the spit is in a steep bank, the ailerons are deflecting opposite of the way they should be. A litter later the 109's control is right then it's wrong, all in the same scene from one movement to the next.
Why would you think they are deflected in the wrong direction ? Once the bank is established, the up wing is faster than the down wing, so it produces a little more lift you have to counteract this tendency by banking slightly opposite of the turn, if you don't your plane keeps rolling.
Great work!! It looks real! I wifi this was a video game !!! But I'm enjoying the epic videos!! Well done one and all!!
What a warrior!
The Spitfire wasn't all that good, until America gave Great Britain 100+ octane gasoline. It made the Spitfire's climb rate twice what it was.
Im from Poland too!
I love this
No more Mr. Nice Guy.
I had to watch this again...👍
What you should do is interview WWII vet pilots and show their real-life combat stories.
AH yes something i do every fucking day cuz its so easy to find them
There probably aren't any alive anymore.
It's too late for that Chief They're All Dead
The best 15 minutes I've spent in a while.
One against four ....at least the odds were even..
Good kill!
Nice
I think RAF pilots were flying on patrols in groups of two or four fighters. Alone spitfires had to report weather situation to OPS and they didn´t have to attack enemy planes 🤔
Great!
Do Spitfire vs. Me 262
Good stick.
good job
gota love spitfire
He said me-109....NICE
why does the Spit have invasion stripes just under the belly and nowhere else, instead of everywhere ?
Soon after the invasion the Allies faced the problem of camouflaging their aircraft when they're situated at local airfields in France.
To get rid of this, they decided to leave the stripes as they were beneath, so it was still possible to quickly identify Allied aircraft in the air (quite similar to the germans painting their noses yellow underneath). But to retain the ease of camouflaging planes the stripes were got rid of everywhere else.
Just seems like a lot of amo for a Spit
120 rounds per gun for the two cannon and 350 rounds per gun for the two 0.5 machine guns. Plenty for short bursts of fire, good pilots did not waste ammunition.
Wait why is this what they chose for the title? Wouldn't it be more surprising if he didn't take them down? It's a spitfire ffs.
@Dr Chad ThunderCock No, it depended on the version of each fighter. The best Bader flew in WW2 was the Spit Mk V, which the Fw190 outclassed. Along came the Spit Mk IX in later 1942 and 43 and the Germans were on their heels again.
Is it online?
Landing with a monstrous kangaroo!
4:00 first shots fired
What fuel is the spitfire using? Is it American 150 octane vs a 87 octane bf109? How about the bf109 get the same fuels see which is faster after a quick tune.
Good job with this video. Accurate dogfighting tactics and beautifully designed scenery and aircraft types. I do wonder though, what is the point of guys only in fighter aircraft shooting each other out of the sky? This presentation needed a few dozen Luftwaffe bombers to justify the RAF patrol and the German BF-109s escorts even being up there in the first place, right?
Usually it is. It could be a scramble, but still those have origin from Defense fighters against escorts. So yeah, no realistic point in that dogfight, but if realistically RAF saw some 109s coming even without reason they’d obviously shoot em down
Pure fighter on fighter dogfights did happen.sometimes they were the only action of the day.
Problem is, IL-2 used a mid-1944 Spitfire and a late-1944 Bf109 (painted in 1940 colours) in a mid-1940 scenario, so none of this makes sense...
Anyway, operationally during the Battle of Britain, the RAF tried to avoid wasting their fighters on patrols and seeking combat with fighters, their job was to knock down the bombers and avoid getting sucked into the type of battle the Germans wanted them to fight. Yes dogfights did occur & the British did send out fighter patrols, but they weren't considered ideal for the British
@@derricklarsen462 Especially after the official end of the Battle of Britain, in November & December 1940 when the Germans turned to using fighter-bomber nuisance raids & when the RAF started to offensively "lean into France"
Do you got any of these videos with fighter jets 👀
Does Il2 work on windows10
If you check your Audio Levels you won't end up with Sound clipping like this
WOW FOUR GERMAN SHOT !!!!!! GREAT !!!!!
This must be an absolute EXPERT !!!!!!
Don´t mention Adolf Galland !!!
dogfihts my fav
He must be an great pilot, shoot down 4 German planes in one battle.
It's a little thing but it nevertheless bugs me. The correct nomenclature is 'Bf 109', not Me 109.
check out Bismarck's channel. He addresses this.
@@mugsnvicki I don't think I've seen that episode (maybe I have??) so I don't know what he says but I'm going to speculate and say he thinks it's acceptable to use one or the other. Certainly, in the German records both prefixes are sometimes used for the 109. However, the fact remains that the Bf 109 was the product of another company that was eventually acquired by Messerschmitt, at the direction of the National Socialist state. The accepted convention in such circumstances is that the original designation, in this case Bf 109 remains in force. So, the 109 remains a Bf while the 410, for example, is rightly prefaced by Me. Just because a bunch of sloppy officials fail to adhere to the correct convention doesn't change what is, or is not, 'correct'.
Ja, ich denke du hast es gelesen.@@haroldgodwinson832
@@mugsnvicki Yeah, on reflection I think I probably have seen it, and I also think I left a comment along the same lines as above. I'm nothing if not consistent.
@@haroldgodwinson832 a good response. Hello from Canada.
Engine exhaust so much attn to detail. And they do that
Yeah, shame it's the wrong colour though.
@@Sorarse i'm talkin about fire coming out, not color of metal
@@tomcumby1118 So was I. You look at any UA-cam video of aero engines being fired up and you will see that the flames are in the blue spectrum when the engine is above tickover.
the proper designation is BF 109
Did you or your device blacked out?😀
Wow, the 109 is so bad it can still be killed in a video game 4 times
Polish painting👍😎
Perdon por la pregunta, yo tengo ese juego pero a mi no me sale esa calidad en los aviones en que consiste?.
Perdon si estoy preguntando algo obvio .
Creo que su computadora necesita tener una mejor tarjeta gráfica. Este es un juego exigente para el rendimiento de la computadora. Puede funcionar en una computadora con requisitos mínimos según lo especificado por el juego, pero la noche visual y tal vez incluso el rendimiento del juego sufren. Lo siento por el traductor de Google en español;)
@@Martinko_Pcik Gracias, eso debe de ser saludos desde Córdoba.
While you were chasing that one the other three would have got on your tail and wasted you
It seems to me that Spitfire had twice its normal 20 mm Cannon load??
How were you sponsered by a book?
Что за игра
A little history on the 303 Pols Squadron . They had a lot more kills than the Brits for the size of their group compared to other British Sqadrons of the same size they also received many medals for their gallantry . After the war was over they told the Pols well were done with you pretty much GTFO and go back to Poland . Poland was torn to pieces there was not much left to go back to. Also after the war they had a Victory Parade and the Pols where not invited because Churchill did not want to offend the Russians . One woman that was the daughter of one of the pilots from the 303 said it broke her dads heart . The 303 was some bad ass mofos they just wanted to kill Germans because of what they did to their country . Not down playing the Brits they are some bad ass's too and very tough
Those 109s was AIs :D
Hi
nice... which simulator is this??
IL=2 Sturmovik Great Battles
@@TJ3 thanks.
In these fantasy flight sims, the human player scores a hit kill with every attack while the AI flies around randomly for target practice. Why are these bf-109s not getting on the Spit's tail? Why are they flying around in no discernible formation? I mean, at 8:33 the bf-109 that was momentarily on the Spit's tail just dives into the sea for no good reason. It's good clean fantasy fun, but let's not pretend that it's anything like real battle simulation.
Taking on 4. Abbevilleboys (Yellow noses ) "expertin" and winning. Must be Eric Hartmann switching sides.
Looking at the tail fin it must be a Mk iiiv or Mk xii . A real action on the 25/5/43 when four Mk xii's shot down five Fw 190's for no loss , off Folkstone Kent.
Do u need a joystick for this game?
Probably. They are super cheap though. Mine was $25
What’s this game?
IL-2 Sturmovik Great Battles
This is post June 6th marking on the spitfire. 4 germans against 1 allied over the channel. Do you realize how remotely unlikely that is.
When the 109s hear a Spitfire they fall asleep!!
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Excellent reproduction, but both the scenario (lone Spitfire on patrol) and outcome (4:0 kill ratio against Me 109's) are highly unrealistic!
Not so unrealistic, one lone Spitfire pilot shot down 4 and damaged a 5th Fw 190, then shot down another and damaged another Luftwaffe aircraft in a short time.
If it is based on real facts...polish pilot of 303 Division shot 4 Bf109 (the tails were without girders?) than it is fine. Polish pilots were the most experienced in the world during this time..had to struggle with Germans in Poland, then France, now UK...German fiigters could be good...had always better machines...now the Polish pilot got even better plane...so the results could be like this. The 303 Squadron used first the Hurricanes..but there were many other Polish Squadrons..in general 12 000 polish airmen (with all auxiliary service) were engaged in the UK. Polish Govenrment had to pay it with gold...as British said "this was your business, you were fighting against Germans for your country". So Churchill send an invoice for every bullet shot by e.g. this Spitfire.
bro do you have instagram?
Haha no but I probably need one!
@@TJ3 ok
Fyi blacking out when preforming high g turns wouldn't render pilot unconscious it just effects vision www pilots used black and grey outs in combat i.e. your blacked out so I your enemy therefore cannot see you
take your "level of experience" off "easy" or "don't hurt me" and see how you would do. Your tactics are suicidal down low. No way a spit can win against 4 109's. Other than that, love your channel.
Yeah, the fact that he was flying straight and level while these 109s fired their cannons wildly past him really shows what skill level the ai were. Try this against humans and you'd be dead in 2 seconds.
Animation
I suggest you make the Spitfire more graphically correct. There is only a single air scoop located under the starboard wing. Not 2 as in the first part of the cgi and not 1 midship as shown later.
Me 109 or bf 109? What do u guys say? I say bf 109 hehe :p
BF
Both terms are correct from everything ive read
Derrick Larsen they are but I just say bf109 and not me 109 :p
Derrick Larsen it’s just controversial
Evil Potato Yt The plane is a Messerschmitt, BF are the initials of who designed it. So either way it’s a win :3
do they use war thunder engine for il2?
pretty much the same.
Go get some glasses
No war Thunder is nothing compared to this
Ahhhhhhhhhhh(copyright) :(
Against BOS AI is is hardly difficult to get 4 kills
So, what's your point? Couldn't you just enjoy a well made, entertaining video which takes a great deal of effort on the part of TJ3 Gaming to produce and no effort on your part to make a snarky remark? Why not, instead, just say, "Thank you."?
Let me show you how it's done.
Thank you TJ3 Gaming for the nicely done video.
Disgraceful distorted sound...
Poles had their day, then the soviets showed up.....