Marriage After Waking Up from Jehovah's Witnesses
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- Опубліковано 13 лип 2024
- When only one spouse wakes up from Jehovah's Witnesses, it can be incredibly challenging to make the relationship work. Here are some things to consider if you find yourself in that situation.
0:00 Intro
3:39 Point #1
4:48 Point #2
5:39 Point #3
7:22 Point #4
7:55 Point #5
8:43 Some extra details & conclusion
Being a PIMO I've been waiting for her to wake up it's been 3 years. The struggle is real 😢
I understand. The struggle IS real. ♥️😢
Same here! :(
David it can take several years! I woke up 2015 my husband woke up 2020
When I told my wife I didn't believe in the organization, and the reasons why, we went to one more meeting. On our way home she said that she would never go back to a Kingdom Hall again. It's been five years since we left.
That is ABSOLUTELY AWESOME!!
My wife never believed she got baptized just so she could marry me. When I woke up snd finally told her she was ready to go. I know I'm rare and lucky. I truly wish the best for those stuck in this terrible situation.
Same with me, but it was my husband who got baptized for me. No argument from him when I woke up.
You're so lucky. Mine is a staunch believer. She said she would rather die in the religion than leave and asked me to leave her alone.
Oh my goodness thank you for this video, I'm at this crossroad! PIMO married to a staunch born-in elder! It helped me to realize the realities of me fading/disassociating . Thanks so much!
My marriage has been hands down better since we have left! While we were both “in” we almost divorced twice! This was supported by the Elders the second time! But we both woke and have been much stronger and loving.
I know what you mean. When I left as an apostate, they told my now ex wife she could get a scriptural divorce because I had committed 'spiritual adultery'
@@paulbuswell6566 the elders are the apostates, they twisted bible in my case, my wife left me and they said jehovah understands her leaving me , i never heard such rubbish, absolute oppositte of jesus words on marriage . Can never go back
Sorry Paul
Sorry James
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Good for you,this belief system trains you to be mean to other people,always looking for mistakes and short comings,
@paulbuswell6566 spiritual adultry what the hell is that?? Was somebody anointed 😂
Thank you for such a painful yet fully necessary video man. It takes courage to say what you said. You’re the best! ❤
My husband was waking up when I was just coming in, pretty much. Fortunately, he waited for me, pretty calmly, three kids later and nearly three decades. When they said No to my daughter getting married at 20 years old, my husband said "It is a cult" We were ALL COMPLETELY AWAKE & OUT a couple years after that. My daughter and I tried to hold on to NO AVAIL!!!!! My daughter indirectly SAVE OUR FAMILY AND I THANK HER IN MY HEART AND MIND WITH EVERY BRRATH I TAKE! Never, in a Million Years did I think that I could be Brain Washed by Anyone or Anything - But there you have it. FIRST HAND! And it wasn't easy after over three decades, however now WE ARE ALL FREE. FREE TO THINK, FEEL & BE WHO AND WHAT WE CHOSE WITH NO JUDGEMENT FOR THE REST OF OUR LIVES. I wondered why I always thought I felt so INADEQUATE by them, thinking that I must have deserved it because of things I had done that were NOT GOOD. Thank You for being so candid and courageous. All the Best To You and please know that YOU ARE WORTHY AND YOU ARE LOVED. ❤
Not married - baptized*
Waking up to which way between this 2 ????? Mathew 7:13-14.
The Bible is not the preserve of the watchtower....
(there are Adventists, Mormons, Evangelicals etc.).
Do you belong to the watchtower or to Christ Jesus? (1 Corthians1Corthians 1: 10-13)
The narrow road is Jesus!
@@Babaorumsurf Your mean all different churches including exjws apostate are in the narrow road according to the Bible??????
So much of what you said resonated with my experience 😢, married for 33 years, left JW in 2018/ 1 year later left my mariage. I’ve reinvented my life…I would not let him or them subject me to their standards! Couldn’t see myself living like that for the next 20-30 good years left! I’m a good person, convinced I didn’t deserve to be treated in such a way. I’m learning every day…work in progress!
Thank you for this viewpoint, spot on. 💝 My take away… « get busy living! » ♥️💜
Well, this is so encouraging!! I too woke up, actually, very early on in my marriage but ended up having 2 children after having been married 5 years in. The religion truly tears down marriage AND families! I served my husband divorce papers after 21 years of marriage with all of his gallavanting, inappropriate behaviors with women he's not married to and willful deceitfulness...ALL WHILE BEING AN ELDER. But, I let him talk me out of divorcing him. Worst mistake EVER! Now, at 33 years and STILL IN NEED OF A DIVORCE! After seeing your comment... I'M AWAKENED AGAIN...THANK YOU!!
@@NoJediMindTrickoh, goodness, your comment just breaks my heart. I’m sending big giant hugs, and lots of vibes of STRENGTH to you.
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Ive been through it too and I agree. Don't wait for the end of the world. 🫶🏾 Create your own Future and Happiness.
Great to see you back on UA-cam! 😃👋🏾
Thank you so for this helpfully video, you speak over important points, I am 73 years old, marriage 49 years and I awake before 6 years, my wife is full in by JW… so I understand what you explain. Thank you for this❤
I listen to videos like this and while I know how lucky I was to have a mate who has never really been IN the religion any more than I was (We divorced and just drifted away from the organization) hearing stories like this breaks my heart, especially knowing that this "religion" that promises to make a marriage stronger, is actually the reason the marriage is failing now.
Btw! So good to see a new video from you! You always say things that are so true and realistic!
I was in this scenario. I married a woman who became a Jws right after we married. It’s wasn’t an easy road. So many obstacles with Jws. They won’t budge or compromise to appease their spouse. I stayed married for 20 years thinking she will see the errors of the WT. In the meantime I would attend church services alone and also go with her to the meetings, conventions and Assemblies. No matter how or what I showed her by my actions it was nothing to her. I did for her what she wouldn’t do for me. It was so unfair and at times miserable. I would be alone when she would go door to door. I was the outcast if you know Jws won’t associate with a “non jw”
Even after all those years of trying to witness to her the blinders never fell off. She had an affair with someone in her KH, she left his wife and she left me. They married soon after and are still married this day. Of course I moved on and remarried to someone who shares my faith. I’m happy for once. But still in the back of my mind I had hoped I be there if she ever would leave the jws. It was truly an strange experience being married to her. It’s like I said so unfair I felt I didn’t matter to her. Her religion was more important than I was.
If you’re dating a Jws run it’s not worth the hassle and problems associated with them.
First time seeing your videos. I have been awake for 25 years.
Wow. Nearly 20 for me.
Glad you got out.
Well done. Letting go is extremely difficult, but the fresh air of freedom is waiting.
Thank you for talking about this sensitive subject. This is the second one you have made that has directly broached something I was wrestling with. The first was overcoming fear of Armageddon (I was terrified still).
Now this, I left my marriage of 24 years, I stayed because I thought it unthinkable to ‘displease Jehovah’. I am newly living alone, just over a month now. It felt strange at first, but Im living now without fear, finally free in thought, in spirit, at peace.
It is difficult at first, but it gets easier, better as we become stronger, as we trust our own mind, intuition becoming our authentic selves. I do believe this is the gift we were given, free will and to follow the love woven into the very fabric of our beings.
Living the law of love written in OUR heart ♥️
Thank you Matt, i appreciate your compassion. Wife and i woke up together 2 years ago. In our case we have decided to call it quits. We were married in our teens 31 years ago, but have decided on different pathways moving forward. Thanks for touching on the situation with kids as well.
“All things that may essentially called persecution if you were to try to dictate their lives in this manner.” Wow. Mic drop! Very well said
Aw, this made me cry. Hugs to everyone out there facing this. x
Just wanted to say I really appreciate the videos. You have a comforting tone and show compassion for those that left and those still in the religion. Mentally i had to battle a lot of inner trauma along with also attempting to get my family out. Its very difficult and its been over a year, but the negative thoughts have gotten worse past few weeks. However these videos and many others in the ExJW community have kept my chin up and fighting. Ill get through this. Just know youre helping others through very hard times and it doesnt go unnoticed
Great video, my fav exJW channel on UA-cam! I couldn’t agree more that talking openly about our life as JWs and our waking process helps a lot and it is fascinating to others!
Also, a great way for people to get to know how bad this organization is. People are eager to listen to our stories cause they don’t get to meet an exJW everyday and they usually think that JWs are just people who just love Christ and knocking on doors.
Dude, thanks for making this! Your videos woke me up! I am forever grateful for it! So glad to see you posting again.
So happy to hear a new video , great advise! Thank goodness my husband was not a JW, he was trying to wake me up after doing research.
I “ woke up” about a month after my divorce, but I know for a fact that my marriage wouldn’t have lasted if I woke up prior. Now I’m (POMO)coparenting with someone (POMI)who views me as an enemy of god and a constant threat to our children’s mental and emotional health. Even though I am no longer married to this man, I am still receiving the same treatment I would have if we were still married. Except instead of using the elders to “ put me in my place” he now uses the court system. (Unsuccessfully of course). Still, I’m very grateful for my mental freedom. Life is good and I wouldn’t have it any other way. Awesome video Matt! Everything you said was 100% accurate and relatable.
@Kat-eo4pm -- how did you get a scriptural divorce? -- I've heard that's the biggest hurdle for many jws...especially after they realize how incompatible they are.
¡Nice to hear from you Matt! 😊🫠🤩
Great stuff Matt 🙏
This is such a well needed video/topic! The craaaaazy part is you can be the best husband/wife ever...once you don't believe anymore the believer will be ready or member's pressure them to leave you!
I appreciate this, I've been through it. I'm out here working on myself, loving the fresh air and outlook on finding someone in whom i can relate to in this new season of life. Thanks for the timely encouragement sir. Peace to you. 😌🪴
My husband was abusive and pimi. I was glad to leave him and the organization. Living my best life😊. Great video!
Currently facing a lot of this. This video is very heavy.
Wow! Such a well needed video! Thank you!
Edit: So good to see you again
This was the hardest exJW video I've listened to, and probably will ever hear. 🥺
Yeah. That was rough.
3 years since my faith crisis, spouse is very devout. It's hard having the church I left still dictate the terms of my marriage and self conduct to maintain my marriage.
Sorry for your pain, happy for your journey. I get it
After my letter of dis-association my wife was told by elders to leave me as I was a danger to her faith. How fickle is her faith if something I say can break her faith?
Did she leave?
@@AbrahamhildaYes, we are separated
Wow! YOU understand completely! What an amazing podcast! Thank you!❤
Thank you for your wisdom and insight and for having love in your heart for giving us the truth.
I had the same problem with my SDA wife who had an affair. I walked way, best step ever.
Excellent Excellent Video. A MUST WATCH VIDEO. Good to see you back making videos again. Hope to see you again, Matt.
This is so well done....GREAT work; create awareness!
Appreciate this buddy!!
Thank you for making another great video. Some have decided to stop because they no longer want to have anything to do JW. I hope you'll continue to create content whenever you can to help either those who may wake up and those who already have.
Really appreciate how thoughtful this video is. Exactly where I am at the moment, weighing everything up. I totally see how you can end up basically living completely separate lives as the cult puts such a high demand on how time is spent and who it is spent with. Trying to figure out what is best for the kids is likewise difficult. Thanks again.
Hi Matt ty for your video 😅
Emotional video, i have no idea how you feel being shunned, I grew up in JW but i never got baptized, so i didn't get shunned when i left. I hope you are happy now knowing you can move forward, you are a very enlightened and smart individual. thanks for your work explaining all the hardships.
I woke up while dating a Jehovah witness. I got into the religion late in life . I had gone through a rough separation , I struggled for years as a single mom, luckily I had a good job as I had been educated and am an engineer.
Anyway, the man I dated was a good guy ! I truly believe that we would have been a good and happy couple even if we didn’t have the religion. I also knew he had cognitive dissonants and doubts about the religion. But the moment I truly expressed how I felt about the religion and that I no longer believed in it , he turned on me completely. He shut down and walked away. In a way I thank him today! What a mistake I would have made. It goes to show who they really are! I am in my mid 40 still searching for my life partner and sometimes I prefer just giving up hope. It’s hard to date these days! What’s even more sad is that he is miserable and has been alone most of his life , not had children and spent a good part of his life in bethel before getting the boot out of there when they let go of bethlelites. He is now 60 and has a very lonely boring life , just working, barely getting by and giving the rest of his time to this organization .
Very painful video. But, VERY NECESSARY AND INFORMATIVE. I woke up because my husband who was an Elder for many years had a voracious appetite for women he wasn't married to. As was MANY of the Elders and MS in this cult. The flirting, inappropriate conduct, etc was NOT that of an "only TRUE RELIGION". I just wasn't falling for the BS. If this is the spiritual lead....whoreish behavior...I can do without.
Also, as a woman, you won't be believed when you present the egregious behaviors you've dealt with. Especially, from other wives, sisters in the cult. My marriage has been destroyed. I don't trust my husband as far as I can spit! And, I don't spit! A sister told me, "Well, our husband's may be flirts but according to the Bible we still need to respect them and their positions". I told her that my Bible...the same one you read says NOTHING like that. I was pissed at her. But, it shows the COGNITIVE DISSONANCE of women. Even to their own detriment.
Wow, I’m so sorry. ❤
Nicole my beautiful pimi jw wife still loves me, I dissociated 5 years ago ,I'm a apostate with my own channel. Nicole didn't talk to me for 2 days when she discovered my channel. We have seperate friends. It's getting easier ,we both avoid the subject of religion, Nicole can't drive so I give her lifts to all the meetings and field service groups . Nicole still loves me and for that I'm truly grateful. Justin Porter ex jw ❤️
Hey, great video!! I contacted you a long time ago, sir, for some information about a video you made and what proff you had.. I wanted to say thank you again for all the info you sent me!! I'm still active, but I think I'm a pimo now!!😂 and thanks to your help, I was able to show my wife, I'm sorry about your marriage, but your work helped save mine, and I'm sure many others.
Keep up the good work and your professionalism. It works!! May God repaid all your hard work to help others!! I am one of your very early subscribers!! Hope one day to meet you in person!! Thank you!!!🙏
Thank you so much for another awesome and helpful video!!
Excellent and very well made content 👍🏼
I was hoping you came back to posting. Thanks.
The fact is You are awaken n alive 😅
Love the straight talking of the falling tower. If there is one UA-cam I could get any one of my three children still in this cult to watch, it would be the one The Fallen Tower made about why he left the JWs
Thank you so much,very informative.
I was one of those unlucky people who were born in.
Faded peacefully ,before getting married to a wonderful worldly man.
He has many of the good qualities ,the JWs have,but I have often thought,that if she were widowed,I could only start a new relationship,with an ex-JW,thus having ng a very limited pool to chose from, but you are right,you opened my eyes❤
How sad this happened to me, I woke up and lost my wife, 18 months later she woke up, but by that time I met a worldly woman to who I'm very happily 20 years on. At least when my witness wife woke up she wanted me back, but too late, I'm happy and I think she's happy with a worldly man, the watchtower is EXTREMELY, DESTRUCTIVE. I still love my ex wife, but but not in a sexual way 😊
excellent advise!!! I like the use of the phrase "staunch JW" instead of PIMI JW.
As a young boy growing up I remember my grandmother and cousins being JW's.My uncle was a minister of a kingdom hall and my cousin when getting married went with her husband to work at the watch tower. When my grandmother already much older ended up in the hospital my uncle refusing to allow doctors to give her a blood transfusion. All to say how sad they were indoctrinated with false doctrine. Thank God my grandmother at the end of her life gave her life to Christ.Some of my cousins ultimately left the JW's for whatever reasons.
meu Deus, este irmão tem toda a razão. Fez uma analise perfeita. Já me sentia infeliz, mas percebo hoje que pior que não ter casado, por não ter um parceiro dentro "da verdade", é ser casado e ter acordado e o parceiro ficar la.
I had no idea this was the case when they come around they present themselves as close to perfect
Thank you for sharing. This goes so far beyond religion and believing in god.
Yeah. It’s a complicated mess.
I served as an elder and was married for 8 years. 2021 I woke up and to say the least it cost me my marriage. My x wife a devoted sister could not trust me any longer and she actually grew a hate for me. So sad really but I believe it's the best thing that has happened
What made you wake up ?
@@desiramos3639 many things really like 607 BCE Australia royal commission birthday celebrations but what really made me start searching was the fact that holy spirit never appointed the elders and I could not bare the politics
@daltondavidson7596 -- at least you woke up and were "subsequently" hated. Do you know how many people are still married to someone that they secretly despise after being pushed into an early marriage for either religious or other reasons? Do you know how many couples are trapped in dead-end marriages that give one outward appearance, but behind closed doors is another story?
@@Ava2969ny you are right and that is why I count my blessings and today I am happy for it.
This is the first time I ever give away any kind of information about my life as an Jehovas Witness because my situation was 'different ' from the general who leave the organization and I was in a very unsafe situation, or how to say. I decided to never speak about it ;my silence,to make sure they leave me alone!
I leave the organization about 25 years ago. My father was an Elder and a pedophile and abuser to many...,my mother was a pioneer like all in my family and I come from a generation of deeply involved Witnesses.
I was baptized very young and deeply dedicated,send to bible school training as pioneer as young and active in every possibly event's ...and seemed as 'very spiritual' according to the elders; I was on my way to be married with a man and start my life with missionary work in a different country then Scandinavian...
Also he totally dedicated to the organization.
In same time...
nobody knew that I had start to process to wake up,see things as they are,observing, study facts ,compare...
I had information/books/texts that only Elders have,or if one was one of the 144 000... but...in my heart and mind I started to questioning EVERYTHING I did see,experience and known was deceptions and lies,hiding of serious facts specific when it came to how the organization protected my fathers behavior within the organization to other younger teenagers.
But mostly I questioning historical facts. Such as 1914,1919 and the whole concept of 144 000 many many other things within the belivesystem.
I knew that if I wanted to really leave the organization because of how deeply involved I was as an 'god very spiritual example ' ...,
I had to do my resarch,prepare my self psychological and mentally for some years,not talk about my thoughts with anyone within the organization nor the family nor my fiancee, nor my best friends.
I didn't say a word, just one day ghosted them all and move away 165miles with no word.
Noone understood anything because none had seen it coming.
My friends,family's and my fiancee which I just leave 3 weeks before planned marriage and 4 months before starting the missionary project as pioneers;within the Scandinavian version of watchtower.
It was a shock for them all.
I never have speak with anyone of them since.
I did write a letter some months after I had move far away ; to the elders ,and with no further explanation more then I didn't consider my self as an Jehovas Witnesses.
I never really have looking back ,nor following anything ongoing within Jehovas Witnesses during all this years but still after all this year they do still 'following me up' telling me that Jehova still waiting for me to return, but I never reply.
Your video did come as a recommendation to my UA-cam channel otherwise I wouldn't have look at all since I don't want to dwell in my past. I just want to forget!
However I react upon your channel titel 'The Falling Tower' like a call to write this.
I truly hope it will come a time where this organization will be fully EXPOSED for the public eye.
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Why is your channel devilish tho? You went the complete opposite way..
@@shainamadai Well my friend🌻Maybe I am experiencing and see the world differently and not precive the world in the duality where darkness is equal with 'evil ' and Light is equal with 'good guys'.
You see there is ' angels of lights filled with shit' as well as there is humans which hide behind a mask of love,light and empathy but in reality these humans haven't open their own closet of shadow's, darkness and shit.There is other which actually dare to see all aspects in the soul within the self and take responsibility for it.
If every human being took responsibility for their own negativity,fear,shadows and darkness instead of blaming everyone around them...this world would be a better place.
Maybe you precive me as 'devilish' because you still feel fear for everything that within Jehovas Witnesses is considered as 'evil' as they have teaching in the cult. I guess you base your opinion on my public music list.
It don't bother me. It is the normal reaction from someone who just left the cult or thinking of do so. Everything is still black and white and will be so until one dare to think outside 'the box' they have put you in.
I wish you the best and to find freedom from the Jehovas Witnesses mindset and not fear.
I recommend Carl Jung Psychology books about the Shadow within every human. To study Psychology did helped me a lot to change my fearbased world view.
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I was raised in the organization but never joined. I dated a guy that was in the same situation. His parents were both JWs, but his mom was PIMO while his dad was a staunch believer. We ended up breaking it off, but I still think about his mom from time to time and wonder how she is doing after all these years.
I didn’t fit in and I don’t fit out . I don’t like holidays I live next door to parents , after I got a divorce. Maybe one day I’ll meet an ex jw, I feel no one else will understand me. I’m 39 now I left when I was 16. Went back once in my twenties, as soon as as I got reinstated I left and disassociated myself. I feel I don’t fit in anywhere , maybe with some bikers. I do love riding my motorcycle. Other than that I feel very lost in life, and my parents seem to like When I’m not doing well because they feel I will come back when things are bad. My heart goes out to all the friends I lost who left , we are all so traumatized. Peace be with us . Ashley Godwin from Pa
I was baptized as a JW at 26, left a couple of years ago at 63. This group causes major nerves and anxiety. I recognized that their Bible was changed (added verses or taken out totally). I am about to be baptized as a Jesus follower, recognizing that the Trinity is absolutely true.
Congratulations. I wish you all the best and encourage you in your faith in Jesus. Not a man made, cultic organisation.
@trishchandler7501 - what faith are you now?
@@Ava2969ny She said she's a follower of Jesus now. So whatever congregation she has fellowship in now, she's a Christian. No one should identify by their denomination. That is not your identity. Your identity is Christ.
@@Ava2969ny a child of God. Christian.
Me too. A Christian. A child of God.
Nice to know there are others here too! 🥰
I was fortunate, even though my husband and I were both born into the JW religion, we were both ready to leave and made the decision we were not going to raise our three children in the JW Organization.
In my case, the final point was when we were talking about the possibility of having children, she said that she would allow them to be taught whatever they said in the kingdom hall, even if they were taught that they should stop talking to me.
My situation is similar but slightly different . I woke up first in my marriage. We have two kids. I don’t want ANY JW’s in our life at all. Unless they are Pimo etc. Their words and energy are poison. My husband left two, but is not where I am. So I left that satanic situation and found the real God - in Christ Jesus. It’s been tricky for my mate but I know I have it better than most. These statements are so so true. It’s so hard and no one understands accept other awake exJW’s. I say read the Gospels in a different translation and do some actual reading of all the lies you were told about Christendom as well. It’s NOT what the WT Masonic writers told you. It’s the very opposite. God bless you for waking up and exercising your God Given conscious. Whatever your path I pray peace and love to fill your heart as you heal outside of this demonic cult.
I am really sorry you went through this. I am not married. I became a witness at age 24. I am just "Waking up" It's tough.
Sir, I meant. Sorry for the typo
I would love to speak to you about this. Same thing happened w me. I was legit pimi for 20+ yrs until I woke up. I'd love to talk
My mother accepted the truth along with the children. My father never believed it but actually got baptized trying to keep the family together. Everyone of the things you mentioned came into play when he stopped going to meetings, etc. He had an affair with his secretary and I DON"T BLAME HIM Finally they divorced. He was disfellowshiped and lost a relationship with his five children. I was one of those and shunned him till he died. I now am an apostate. I missed out on over 20 years of having a relationship with my father because I obeyed the organization of Jehovah's Witnesses instead of my heart and mind. Good video. Well though out questions.
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Hey Matt, can I please get the list that you sent me a couple years ago I don’t have your email anymore
I can tell you that hobbies, sports and other interests outside of the organisation are strongly discouraged as these things would lead a person away from the truth and stunt their spiritual growth, so basically JWs cannot pursue their talents and interests without disapproval from fellow members and elders who would think they were spiritually weak for pursuing the things of the world. They would remind the person that the world is passing away and so is it’s desire, but they’ve been saying that for ,is it 109 years now ? A family member was taken aside by an Elder and ticked off for buying a ‘ nice car’ it wasn’t a top notch prestige car just a nice brand of car. The elder warned against the showy display of ones means and materialism. ☹️
I was wondering if you we’re married. So expected. But Does it keep you single? Early comment b4 fully watching. Was question from previous video.
Should have waited.
Hopefully you are in a good place now, despite the hardship you had to go through because of this corrupt organization! Thank you for such a great video!🫶
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I am sort of in the situation you describe. So traumatised am I that I keep listening to your video as I try to sleep.
They’re weirdly calming. It’s nice to know we are not alone, even if it’s terribly sad there are so many others suffering.
We are not alone.
How many partners break up for infidelity?
I left due to elders discussing with their wife’s the reason for my disfellowship. I lost trust and I was just tired of being shunned.
Nothing to do with this video…but what is your stance on the blood transfusion topic???
When having kids, the situation is difficult. I just cannot leave them. Since I was DF-Apostacy, all grand parents, all relatives, elders etc label me as a mentally diseased and with satan in my head. Kids are are scarred to open bible with me and have forbidden to discuss any biblical theme with me. I just cannot leave them in their claws, they love me and I them. Yes I know I am willingly stealing myself of future 10years of any romantic relations. Because the marriage is basically just two room-mates living next to each other. She makes sure with every move and word to express that I am worth of dying in Armageddon. horrific to see my spouse I loved for decades to be in mental chains of cult indoctrination being able to do just nothing.
I’m nearly 50 now. I know what you mean about thinking nobody will want me. 😢
That it’s too late.
And I have three kids, one of which is 7, so it’s not like men want to be attached to an old lady with responsibilities.
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Never say never❤.
@@realliving7340 thank you. ♥️
So they are no longer 2 but one flesh. Therefore,what God has yoked together,let no man put apart. Matt 19:6.
The man that puts apart of the marriage bond is either a wife or a husband, in laws, and a mistress.
This video is maybe the first time i felt a bit depressed since i woke up.
Certainly not my intent. Sorry about that! It’s just that if you’re there and it looks like nothing will change, maybe it’s time to make plans. Or if you’re there and there’s hope, then it could get better and it’s worth holding on. I’ve been there and it’s a miserable spot to be in for sure. Almost daily I get hit with how different my life is now (in a better way) but there will always be some sadness that that relationship and part of your life is over and ended so abruptly despite your best efforts. Do what’s best for you and life your life in a way that you’ll be proud of when you’ve reached the end, can look back on your life, and have no regrets about wasting it.
This hit me hard too because I’m out now, for 17 years, and now I’ve been abandoned by my SECOND husband. The love of my life, after leaving the cult. He joined the military, and then I lost him to PTSD and alcohol. But I’m stuck now because now I’m older. I have three kids now, with him. And NO EDUCATION. I’m not dumb. I speak languages, and I’m probably more educated than most, but I have no letters after my name, and I’ve been a good submissive wife all these years (again!), so it’s been almost two decades since I even have any work experience.
I’m stuck again. Not sure how to move forward safely, making sure we can eat and keep a roof over our heads…
And a huge chunk of that “stuck”-ness comes from being raised in the cult, without college.
Just remember though if you mate remains JW, any children you have, if they choose to be a dedicated JW may very likely shun you as they reach adulthood. That unbelievable pain has to be considered seriously if plan plan to go forward with having more children.
Did Jesus and disciples ever say Jehovah or Jehovah god like the watchtower?
May i ask, what do you believe in now? I have just started studying with my sister and attending a few meetings here and there, but i cant shake the feelings of doubt in the pit of my stomach. However, seeing whats going on in the world at the moment, i absolutely believe there must be a God. If so many evil people (hollywood is a prime example) can worship the devil, then surely its opposite must also be true? Do you still believe in God and Jesus?
So confused i am 😅
I’m agnostic atheist now. After researching JWs I turned my research focus onto Christianity and religion in general. I came to realize I had been misled about a lot of things and never knew how many logical fallacies I was relying on to maintain my faith in an interventionist deity. I found that there are much more compelling arguments for non belief than belief in a god that interacts with the world. In the end I’m just much more comfortable now saying “I don’t know” but open to finding out more as new evidence presents itself.
The Bible is not the preserve of the watchtower.... (there are Adventists, Mormons, Evangelicals etc.).
Do you belong to the watchtower or to Christ Jesus? (1 Corthians1Corthians 1: 10-13)
The narrow road is Jesus!
As a former JW now a Christian I would advise to listen to some good debates from different perspectives and worldviews. Beware of those that claim to have all the answers but don’t want you to look beyond their preferred authority this is classic information control. The big questions will always be up for debate and it’s good to remember there are genuine truth seekers that will change their position if they find themselves to be wrong and there are sophists who will seek to defend their position whatever the cost for various reasons. Never stop asking questions or ignoring those feelings of doubt.
@vanessaprice8395 -- trust that feeling in the pit of your stomach...it's telling you something. Go with your gut feeling or risk living with regrets for the rest of your life.
Thank you, I really appreciate all of your answers ❤
Married to a staunch witness. We have separate lives. But here’s the rub: sometimes her family will take my side because I’m a Christian man and produce fruit. I thought her head would spin around and start speaking in tongues! It is very difficult to practice my faith. My flesh wants to fly away to Bali. I could do it if it was God’s will. Presently, it is not.
What did you find false in JW teachings pertaining to Jesus?
I'm So Sorry! On An Up Side, You Look Like Captain America. Her Lose!!!!! ❤
This is the situation I am in. I started snapping out of my indoctrination in November 2020. Stayed in it out of fear of what my wife might do.
Thankfully no kids.
God designed marriage as a lifelong commitment between one man and one woman for their mutual joy, the good of society, and the procreation of children. Marriage ultimately displays the glory and grace of God by picturing the unbreakable relationship between Christ and his church. x Jehovah witnesses marriages have big time issues too no diff!
JW's teach there is no hell but the following proves differently.
Jesus Himself Speaks About Hell And How Not To Go There:
In Luke 16:19-31 Jesus describes a rich man that lived lavishly and a poor beggar man named Lazarus. It came to pass that Lazarus died and was carried by the angels into Abraham’s bosom. The rich man died, was buried, then went to hell. 23 And in hell he lifted up his eyes, being in TORMENT, saw Abraham afar off and Lazarus in his bosom. 24 And he cried and said, Father Abraham have mercy on me, and send Lazarus, that he may dip the tip of his finger in water, and cool my tongue, for I am tormented IN THIS FLAME. 25 But Abraham said, Son, remember that you in your lifetime received good things, and likewise Lazarus received evil things, but now he is comforted and you are tormented. 26 And besides all this, between us and you there is a great gulf fixed, so that they which would pass from hence to you can not, neither can they pass to us, and would come from thence. 27 Then he said, I pray you therefore father, that you would send him to my father’s house. 28 For I have 5 brothers that he may testify unto them, lest also come into this place of torment. 29 Abraham said unto him, They have Moses and the prophets, let them hear them. 30 And he said, Nay father Abraham, but if one went unto them from the dead, they will repent. 31 And he said unto him, If they hear not Moses and the prophets, neither will they be persuaded, though one rose from the dead.”
LOCATION OF HELL: Jesus said in Matthew 12:40, ”For as Jonas was three days and three nights in the whale’s belly, so shall the Son of man be three days and three nights in the HEART OF THE EARTH.” Paul said in Ephesians 4:9, ”Now that he ascended, was it but that he also DESCENDED into the LOWER PARTS OF THE EARTH.”
HELL IS A PLACE OF FIRE: Jesus said in Luke 16:24,”….Father Abraham have mercy on me, and send Lazarus, that he may dip the tip of his finger in water, and cool my tongue for I am TORMENTED IN THIS FLAME.”
Jesus said in Matthew 13:42,”And shall cast them into a FURNACE OF FIRE, there shall be WAILING AND GNASHING OF TEETH.” Jesus said in Matthew 25:41,”Then shall he also say to them on the left hand, Depart from me, you cursed, INTO EVERLASTING FIRE, prepared for the devil and his angels.”
Jesus said in Revelation 20:15,”And whosoever was not found written in the book of life, was CAST INTO THE LAKE OF FIRE.”
HELL IS A PLACE OF TORMENT: Jesus said in Luke 16:23,”And in hell he lift up his eyes, being in TORMENT….” 24 …..for I am TORMENTED in this flame.” Jesus said in Revelation 14:11,”And the smoke of their TORMENT ascended up FOR EVER AND EVER, and they have no rest day or night….” Jesus said in Mark 9:45-46,”And if thy hand offend thee, cut it off, it is better for you to enter into life maimed, than having two hands to go into hell, into the FIRE THAT NEVER SHALL BE QUENCHED. 46 Where their WORM DIES NOT, and the fire is not quenched.” Note that it doesn’t say “THE Worm”, it says “THEIR WORM” dies not. Jesus said in Revelation 21:8,”But the fearful and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and whore mongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burns WITH FIRE AND BRIMSTONE, which is the second death.” Note that Brimstone is Sulfur and burns with a very strong odor of rotten eggs.
The scriptures above prove when a person goes to hell they will constantly see hell, constantly smell hell, constantly feel the heat of hell, will constantly breath hell, will constantly hear the wailing and gnashing of teeth of others in hell, will constantly be aware of their own worms, they will have no rest day or night, there is no way out and it will continue for ever and ever, they can’t die because they are already dead.
The following is how to not go there and it is a SIMPLE AND EASY thing to do:
All of the book of Acts is what Jesus disciples said what we must to be SAVED - meaning not go to hell, which is repentance, water baptism in Jesus NAME, (Not the titles Father, Son, and Holy Ghost) and being baptized with the Holy Ghost. Jesus said in Mark 16:16,"He that believes and is BAPTIZED shall be SAVED, but he that believes not shall be damned."
At about that same time He said in Matthew 28:19,"Go therefore and teach all nations BAPTIZING them in the name (SINGULAR name and not name's) OF the Father, and OF the Son, and OF the Holy Ghost." Father, Son, and Holy Ghost are titles and not names. Jesus disciples never used those words when they baptized anyone in water, nor did they use those words in one sentence regarding any other topic. Every time they invoked Jesus NAME at baptism which is Acts 2:38, Acts 8:14-18, Acts 8:38, Acts 9:18, Acts 10:44-48, Acts 16:15, Acts 16:33, Acts 18:7, Acts 18:8, Acts 19:3-5, and Acts 22:16.
Jesus said in John 3:3-7,"Verily, verily I say unto you, Except a man BE BORN AGAIN, he can not see the kingdom of God. 5 Verily, verily I say unto you, Except a man be born of water AND of the Spirit, he can not enter into the kingdom of heaven. 7 Marvel not that I say unto you, YOU MUST BE BORN AGAIN." Being born of water is being baptized in water which is for the REMISSION OF SINS - meaning the INITIAL remission of sins and not the confessing of sins later addressed in 1 John 1:9. Being born of the Spirit is being baptized with the Holy Ghost. What being baptized with the Holy Ghost means is addressed in Acts 2:3-4, (Pentecost), Acts 8:17, Acts 9:18, Acts 10:44-48, and Acts 19:3-5 - which is when the Spirit of Christ initially dwells in a person. Nowhere in Scripture does it say it happens any other way than that way. There is not one Scripture that says a person receives the Holy Ghost just because they are a believer. Acts 19:1-5 is a good example.
Paul said in Romans 8:9-11,”But you are not in the flesh, but in the spirit, if so be that the spirit of God dwell in you. Now if any man have not the Spirit of Christ, HE IS NONE OF HIS."
Numbers 23:19, ”God is not a man that he should lie, neither the son of man, that he should repent, has he said and shall he not do it? And shall he not make it good?”
Malachi 3:6,”For I am the Lord, I change not...”
Hebrews 13:8,”Jesus Christ is the same yesterday, and today, and forever.” That means there is no reason to think that Jesus will make an exception and save someone that has not been baptized in water in Jesus NAME, and has not been baptized with the Holy Ghost.
Some say the thief on the cross next to Jesus was not baptized yet Jesus told him he would be in paradise with him that day. Jesus had not given the COMMANDMENT to be baptized in HIS NAME until after he had risen from the dead and before he ascended into heaven. The thief on the cross could not have been baptized because he did not know about it.
if you do what Jesus said above in Mark 16:16, Matthew 28:19, and John 3:3-7, you will be making SURE your name is Written In Lamb's Book Of Life.
If you are convinced you need to get baptized in water in Jesus Name do a search and type in "United Pentecostal Church International", scroll down to just below the red box, type in your zip code, a screen will show a Church near you that will do that.
Jesus said John 10:27, ”My Sheep hear my voice, and I know them, and they follow me.”
Waking up to which way between this 2 ???? Mathew 7:13-14.
Jesus sent you to preach about the Muslims?
@@skippy1012 How i preach?????
Relationships in the organization was so messed up it’s one reason why I never got married or raised children in this nonsense, I wasn’t going to allow this org to mess my kids up.
Hi Vusi 👋missed you babe what’s going on ????
@@marwatson7408 All of you ignored my simple question 🤣, waking up to which way between this 2 ?????? Mathew 7:13-14.
Go out of here before its to late
For me this was never an option 1 Cor 7 is clear ‘if the unbelieving depart, let him depart’ […] ‘let every man abide in the same calling wherein he was called’. It’s not an option to depart for a JW that becomes a Christian and if you have this attitude no matter how rough initially things do get better the choice is with the JW partner in this situation. I know this is a complex and painful subject but I offer this from my own experience and am glad that we stuck it out, what the future holds I leave with my Lord Jesus Christ and God the Father. ‘Or how knowest thou, O man, whether thou shalt save thy wife?’…
compare to other religion, JW teachings are really from the bible... its ok to study the bible with them,, one thing i dont agree with the JW is that they actually lost their hope in getting to heaven because of that ritual on their memorial of Christ Death , where they were told if the holy spirit didnt tell you to part take on the wine and bread eating then that means you dont belong to the 144k people written in the bible that will go to heaven. so they go around telling other people too that they dont have a place in heven and their hopes should be here on earth when it becomes paradise... i told them , i stick with my hopes both paradise and in heaven ... so im hoping i will be drinking that wine and Bread soon, if not...thats ok too, but i wont go around telling other people they dont have a place in heaven...
If you will drink wine you will never get everlasting life Jesus never drink wine but juice ..translated (wine) ...An evening of Pasha you shouldn't drink wine or anything other fermented .JW they do not know this.They drinking wine for own destruction also others do not drink grape juice and do not eat bread to own destruction too. "..if blind teachers they show the way to blind people ? " ..this org is nothing else than DISASTER.
The "New World Translation" is not a genuine translation from the original languages. Every time they came on a passage that showed that their teachings are wrong, they just changed what it says! Believe me, I know.