How Accurate is the Urdu in Sanjay Leela Bhansali's 'Heeramandi'? | Urdunama Podcast | The Quint
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- Опубліковано 17 тра 2024
- Time to fire up your epiglottis! In this episode of Urdunama, Fabeha Syed delves into the linguistic nuances of Urdu in the much-discussed web series 'Heeramandi'. While the series has garnered attention for its bold storytelling and captivating visuals, the portrayal of Urdu within it has sparked debates and discussions. Join us as we dissect the accuracy of the Urdu dialogue, exploring its authenticity, usage, and the cultural context within the narrative.
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Thanks for the valuable criticism 👏
when an American actor plays an Irish or a British character they nail it on the head...I dont understand why its so hard for Indian actors to do it
Excellent analysis! The serial is a spectacle -- many things are far removed from reality including delivery of dialogues as you have brilliantly pointed out. Alas the show is meant for today - a time when finer points of Urdu or Rekhta are generally on the decline.
Bohot shukriya. Dar asal Heeramandi me moseeqi(music) aur Jama(dresses) on point hain. Lekin usme urdu pr bilkul zor nahi diya gaya hai. Jo Manisha ki beti ka roll nibhati hain unka character khud ko shayra kehta hai aur talaffuz itna kharab k allah ki panah.
Uske bar-aks Jab aap farida jalal ki dialogue delivery sunti hain to kanon pr zara bhi garan nahi guzarti. Baqi sab k sab lagta hai khud pr zor dekr kuch karna chah rahe hain. Wo jo effortless wali baat hoti hai. Sach kahu 2 episode k baad laga k Tamam Urdu dan is waqt khoon k ansu baha rahe honge. Hum jaise urdu shenas ko jab is qadr takleef hui to unpr kya guzri hogi. 😢
Very good comparitive analysis, was eagerly waiting for episode with such constructive criticism .
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So true
Actors like Tom Alter should have been included in this movie, and am sure he would have been an inspiration for all the actors of the movie.
آپ جو اتنی زیادہ تنقید کر رہی ہیں ا یسا لگتا ہے کہ شاید آپ نے یہ پہلی ہندی فلم دیکھی ہے ۔تقریبا ہر فلم میں سو غلطیاں ہوتی ہیں اور ہم اردو دا ں واہ واہ کررہے ہوتے ہیں ۔سنجے لیلا بھنسالی نے تو ا ردو بیزاری ماحول میں ایسی شا مدار فلم بنا کر محبان اردو پر احسان کیا ھے ۔ہمیں ان کا شکر گزار ہونا چاہیے ۔❤❤❤
बहेतरीन पेशकश!❤
I think the grandmother didn't say "haya". She said hara naa dey. But I could be wrong. I thought it was cute. She just adored her grandson and saw how outrageously handsome he was.
Thanks for bold and open talk on an unnecessary hyped trend.
Being a Kathak dancer i found the ghungroos shown for heeramandi lead dancers are really flawed. Kathak ghungroos are braided on a rope as a string and that string of bells is coiled around the leg. Here in heeramandi ghumgroos are like on a base tied with ribbons on the back. It's almost like bharatnatyam ghungroo. But in bharatnatyam, less bells are used, so the base can hold it. But in kathak it's not possible to place so many bells on one base. And such style will not give balnce also to the dancers.
I didn't like the dance performances in the series, no leading character danced like a dancer. Well if that's due to their incapability, at least technical details like how the ghungroo should look realistic should have been monitored.
Urd pe isliye daihaan nahi diya kiyunke sara daihaan sets aur costume pe tha.
Heeramandi mein Punjabi boli jati thee , not urdu
This was important! Also, Khana, Khatt and many more words were still incorrectly pronounced, which was very annoying.
I 100% agree with majority of your arguments. As a Punjabi whose family has been in UP for long time, Punjabi and Urdu diction were both horrible. I would like to argue one thing. I don't think it is appropriate to say that heeramandi was the epicentre of Urdu. Before the British empire, it was the Sikh empire that was in power. Before Sikh empire, it was Ahmad Shah Abdali and his empire did try to abolish tawaif culture in Punjab. Khalsa Raj led to a revival of the tawaif culture and Ranjit Singh was involved with some of the tawaifs for which he was criticized by the Sikh Supreme Court. Khalsa Raj also didn't promote Urdu. They used farsi in many of the official documents and Punjabi as the common language. It is important to note that a lot of nawabi culture and the promotion of Urdu was mostly in areas such as Awadh and Delhi. Urdu was brought back to Punjab by the British because they constantly promoted the propaganda that Punjabi was the language of the jahil/uneducated/paupers. I think that is what I didn't like about the show as well. The sheer lack of work and research on Lahori culture and heeramandi culture that was done is truly mind boggling considering how expensive this project was.
Meanwhile Alamzeb; 😕
Aap Urdu k Talafuz se Nakush hai zara Socho kaise Bollywood ne hum South Indian Languages ka itne saalo se Mazaak udaya hai... Shahrukh Khan Jaise Star tak ne Ra-one mein Tamilians ka jo mazaak banaya hai woh tho kissi gustakhi se kam nahi hai
Honestly what did you expect. Their Hindi is horrible. Their English is passable at a best. So obviously, Urdu too will be wrong. It’s a profit based business, where anything will be tweaked or twisted for profits. Why do you think they stereotype everything. Its for profit. Don’t give importance to them or to what they say.
Irony is that you are butchering Urdu yourself by using English and Hindi words like "gyan" 😂
Bohot ghalat baat hai ye. Aapne inki zindagi mein hi post mortem kardala. Hope Sanjay Leela Bhansali is not gunning for you. Just to put a cherry on the cake. Plz hear this famous song which got massacred in the start itself. It's a song by Shreya Ghoshal and Saad Lamjared and is called Gulli Mata. I should join you as i too get shocks when urdu is confused by hindi and then you get raw omelette. Love your work. Stay safe and blessed 💐
Film me Urdu ke talaffuz mein xatayein aur masnuyi guftugu mere bhi fahm se balatar hai
Nonsense stuff😡😡🤬
Like you😂😂
Che danad Buzna lazzat e adrak (Persian)........
Bandar 🐒 kya jane adrak ka swaad.... (hindustani)
urdu sirf fareeda jalal ne sahi boli hai....baaqi sab ne including Shekhar suman ne galat boli hai
Isko bhi heeramandi bhejdo koi
Prajwal ko bolo.
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@@shabanatajrout487 are you also from heeramandi 😂
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