I live on the line of zone 8b/9a in Louisiana. I`m on a low Social Security Disability income in a very rural area far from stores, living in a camper with no car, so I have to try to stay focused daily on growing fresh foods. In the room I`m in now there`s a wide variety of nutrient dense foods growing and more outside, plus I have fig trees, blackberry vines, strawberries, and just got a mulberry tree. I`ve had to adapt to my limitations and it`s very difficult but if I want fresh foods it`s up to me to produce them and every little victory is a huge important win. I`m planning to start more than a dozen more fruit trees this year with help from my nephew and set up some tiny greenhouses under the edge of my camper roof to get a headstart in late winter for better production and be able to ripen certain things as cold weather moves in at the end of the year.
Moral of the story...creating dependency has detrimental effects. Grow what you can to avoid the poison they sell us. Food quality is critical...don't trust the system to provide for you.
I love how you wannabe hippies assume everyone has the land to grow enough food for themselves where the hell are you going to grow enough tomatoes for yourself in the middle of a city
If you don't have room for an outdoor garden, you still have options. Obviously, no space = no yield. For those who have a modest sized yard, they have the ability to grow great high yielding crops and subsidize the cost of produce which is significant in the current market. Nothing to do with being a hippie...I see it as independence/self sufficiency.
In the desert especially you can go ultra-high-density if you're regenerating or improving an already regenerated soil instead of constantly degrading it with e.g. poisons, lots of tilling, removing yard waste from the property, not composting kitchen scraps etc. In the desert we use a foot of arborist mulch, we chop and drop, we grow leguminous trees and palms for chop and drop especially, we compost everything many different ways, we employ log edgings for hugelkultur, we inoculate with wormcasting tea and beneficial fungi, we deep water etc. 4:48
I grew super 100 tomatoes in my backyard garden. After harvesting, without washing, they remained edible for 1 month and 4 days. No mildew at all. Commercial AG is the problem.
@@Yourmom-tc4rn They aren't bad for you. Physalis, Peppers, Eggplants, Tomatillos are nightshades, too. As well as potatoes. Beans can be deadly poisonous if not prepared right. Cucumbers and Pumpkins can contain alkaloids (cucurbitacin) which has killed people before and not too many years ago either. There'll be barely anything left to eat for you, at least nothing that has considerable amounts of calories and healthy minerals and antioxidants. And you do realize that plant families etc. are categories made up by humans? That categorization has been made by humans in 1597, in a time when people widely believed that tomatoes were closely related to belladona and thus, toxic. It's not a nature given categorization and does not equal to "all nightshades = poisonous". It took humanity 200 years to realize that tomatoes aren't toxic and today Solanin/Capsaicin is pretty well understood and studied. So yeah, the toxicity myth has been debunked somewhere between the late 1700-1800's. Belladonna contains tropane alkaloids, such as atropine, hyoscine (scopolamine), and hyoscyamine. Those are not found in tomatoes or other edible plants from the nightshade family. Even compared to one another, Belladonna looks nothing like the garden tomato or peppers/eggplants. But yeah, there's been a wad of quacks jumping back on the "tomato toxicity" train to make a quick buck of it because they claim they have found the *one* flaw in our diet.
@@Yourmom-tc4rn Most human food comes from a handful of plant families. They ALL produce toxic compounds. It is about knowing which parts and how to prepare.
Wow! I was planning to plant hybrid tomatoes to get more harvest but after seeing this, I have to plant more heirlooms. Thank you for sharing this to the public! We need to know if the food we eat is really good for our body. No wonder why so many people are sick even if they eat vegetables from the store.
@@eduwino151 There is a patch of public land that anyone can find. In fact alot of people in those conditions take the initiative and organize a community garden.
@@eduwino151no one cares unfortunately. Either you suffer and get that land hoping you aren't dead by the time you are able to buy it or just make sure your parents weren't dumb enough to have you without any land .
It isn't a food issue. You can buy patented plants and produce all the food you want. The only thing you CAN'T do with a patented plant is aesexually propagate it and then SELL it. Do you believe that you should be allowed to record in the theaters, then sell the video? You expect to be paid for whatever work you do. Why would you deny that expectation of others work?
There are lots of small independent seed companies in Canada. Most of their offerings are heirloom, open pollinated and some are organic. Some offer F1 seeds but it’s not what they’re known for. Here in Nova Scotia they offer unique pumpkin seeds from native peoples that thrive in our maritime temperate climate.Scotia tomatoes, novaspy apples, lupins etc
We bought Scotia tomato seeds a few years back and they are amazing!! We've grown and harvested the seeds for 3 years now and they are still our most dependable, tastiest tomato crop yet. They other big brand, mass produced tomato hybrid strains have comparatively been more disappointing on flavour. Sure hybrids produce bigger, redder tomatoes but they can't trump the Heirloom Scotias!
Excellent documentary on a vital topic! A key point to note is that nutrient density starts with genetics BUT is also heavily influenced by farming practices i.e. natural vs synthetic/industrial farming!
Amazing documentary! I'm surprised that I didn't see anything about soil health and how it correlates to fruit nutrition though. Perhaps that could be an entire documentary of its own? Comparing nutrition in hydroponic vegetable vs small scale vegetables.
You didn't see anything about soil health in this because these people have no clue what they are talking about. Bringing in the concept of soil and soil health would expose the MAIN reason for nutritional profile differences. In school we experimented with alfalfa and a few different grasses. . feed for cattle. You get HUGE nutrient differences base soley on what soil type a plant is grown in. You get even bigger differences (even in the same soil type) based on microbiome of soils. Most people have no idea how big of a role microbes have in soil.
I am having so much fun learning to grow all this stuff at my house. It really is the perfect thing to visit once a day and clear the mind and relax and care for plants.
An interesting experiment would be to produce heirloom and modern hybrid varieties in the same soils and with the same cultural practices and compare the nutritional profiles. That could shed light on the argument that the difference is down to culture rather than genetics.
Don't just take any heirloom. . . That is just accepting a whole grab bag full of uncontrolled variables. This is the BS they pulled and relied on in the video. This would be like taking a Great Dane and comparing it to a Red Heeler / Sheppard mix. You need to compare the Red Heeler / Sheppard mix to Red Heelers and Sheppards. Take the genetic sources for the hybrid and compare to the hybrid. If the nutrient profile is significantly different under identical growth conditions. . . . it won't be. Remember where the genes for the hybrid came from in the first place. Different soils, etc. . do have a large impact on nutritional profiles. Studied this at uni with alfalfa and some other grasses that are common in feed for cattle. Congrats on spotting that.
Learning how to make soil for growing at home is a good skill to learn. Most of the problems with what plants contain are caused by the fertilizers used, and the lack of trace elements.
Now I understand better. Thank you for shedding light on this issue. Am shaking my head at multinationals and their greedy shareholders (tbh i used to work for one). They always used to say, we are not a charity and must always show profit else a division or business unit will be sold.
People will always naturally respond defending what they already know. You do anything different you are crazy. Weird etc. Don't waste your time on them. Just look after yourself :)
It has not so much to do with the varieties used but with the soil. Big machinery, too much disturbance of the soil, no organic matter and synthetic fertilizers with only NPK, are killing the soil. A dead soil can't properly feed the plants.
I can't help but think that the seed vault in Norway is somehow involved in this entire scheme. If these seed manufacturing companies continue to buyout smaller seed companies, our food choices as a people will become extremely limited. Which is why we should participate in local seed libraries and support local farmers to the best of our ability.
A good seed is important, but more important is the soil biology where the seed is going to live specially if the seed is inoculated with the right micros before planting....
As a market gardener I do have some sympathy with the seed companies, they sell what people want, like it or not. I would go to market with an assortment of tomatoes, mostly heirloom, a few hybrids. The heirlooms tasted great, didn't look so good. The hybrids looked good but had no flavor. I'd tell customers exactly that, and much of the time they'd go for the hybrid because it "looked good". Pretty frustrating to say the least, but there was definitely some educated consumers who wanted to buy flavor. Fortunately these days there are a ton of small, local seed companies producing heirloom seed. Unfortunately the biggest, most promoted and most well known sells whatever is cheapest and often has very poor quality seed, so just because a seed comes with a great "story" doesn't mean it's good seed. Try an assortment of companies and pick the one that produces the best results.
On local weekly markets (Belgium) they used to give people the chance to taste the fruits and vegetables before buying them. Today these local markets are less visited. Markets often offer a better price, but they do not give you the opportunity to taste before buying.
This is our experience too. We have a brownish variety of apple that is by FAR the best tasting apple. I can't sell it at all, unless I get them to taste it. . Most folks that buy predominantly from the grocery store just don't know what is "good."
Tomatoes are picked green, they store for 1 year then they induce ripening by putting them with ripe tomatoes. The huge losses in flavour and nutrients is not really a surprise. This is practiced with many types of fruit they don't do this with leafy greens, cabbage, broccoli or similar vegetables. They also strip the land and let the wind erode the top soil off which they pump fertilizer into the soil to counter. I think this has as much impact as the genetic selection and hybrid breeding.
The guy being interviewed at around the 25min mark was avoiding the point as much as he possibly could, to obviously protect the companies image... But what he should have said was that theyre providing what the market demands, and should the demand change, then they would obviously have to shift their business model
The market is changing. Know your farmer, know your food. Small farmer over big pharma. This food is playing right into their hands. Food power to the people!
Did you see SciShow channel's taste test of 'cultured chicken?' Tastes just like the real thing, has the same texture, and there's a strong probability that they could tweak nutrient levels - so that younger generations can actually enjoy the taste of chicken such as we older generations used to have. Chicken nowadays tastes so bland compared to that I had when I was a wee kid. Not really surprising. Chickens have been bred selectively to increase their weight 5 times from their original state. So, just like the tomatoes in this video, the genetic markers in the chicken have caused the original amount of nutrition and taste in a smaller chicken to become spread out over a larger product. As other people say on many nutritional videos, it's no wonder people keep eating and eating uncontrollably - their bodies are genetically attuned to seek nutritional satisfaction on a daily basis, but modern ultra processed foods, foods overloaded with sugar and modified starches, and nutrient poor fresh foods simply don't supply it.
@@Debbie-henri A few cloned cells grown in a lab chemical vat is not going to be the same (nutrition, taste, texture, etc.) as a living, whole animal and they fake the lab grown meats to make them look real and taste better with artificial additives and colors.
I was a university horticulture student in the late 80s. Back then the seed companies were patenting their product and development of their seed and fertilizer systems in order to control everything. Our instructor told us of a farmer that was still using conventional seed ( cs) while his neighbor was using a contracted program seed (ps). The ps rep came out to inspect the crop and noticed that a few ps plants, in this case it was field corn, in the cs field edge growing because it looked different. The seed had either been spilled during planting or possibly a bird had carried it and dropped it, so it grew. Long story short, since the cs farmer hadn't contracted to use the ps, he was charged with theft and eventually lost his farm through the courts because the programmed seed company had more money to do financial damage and eventually they took the farm during auction. Sad world we live in where the seeds we used to plant became a lab manipulated and patented product . The program seed company was Monsanto and the program seed was the development of the glyphosate resistant seed corn.
this has been known for some time now - first looked into this maybe 15 years ago and this decline in minerals and vitamins across the board...blessings to all
One kilo of tomato seeds produced in India costs 115 dollar and is sold for 67.000 euro's in Europe.. In the meanwhile only children and woman are doing the labor because men ask too much for a pay? The world is broken :(
Electroculture Gardening is an outstanding method to grow more and better vegetables without fertilizer. Electroculture has been used in agriculture as far back as the Pyramids.
I've been against using F1 seeds for a while, mainly because I like to save seeds, but I still buy the odd one. I had no idea about the child labour or the poor pay given to the people doing the work. It's worth spreading this documentary around, more people need to know about it. One thing I will say is that hybrids on their own aren't necessarily a bad thing, it's how we get new varieties (once they've been bred true), but produced in this way, for these reasons is not good. The sheer level of greed by the companies, with the farm getting mere dollars for the seed compared to tens of thousands the company sells them for is a true reflection of the world currently. Money is filtered to go to those with money already, they don't care about the rest.
Well the indians should wakeup on the other hand indians believe in sharing what God provides, beliefs are God didn't give one keep for themselves. When you go 6ft under you take nothing with you. That's why so many indian medicines ie turmeric, ginger,garlic etcetera etc they share and teach other cultures. They dont do Patents like the western countries and make billions getting rich on others knowledge.
Wow u was just talking with a friend that I wanted to do a test on store bought fruits compared to home grown fruits veg on their nutrient value and this pops up cool.
If you can grow the plant from seeds from your area and year after year in your garden then within 3 years you have an adapted plant and the hybrid gets breed out ... nutrients come from the soil. If the soil is depleted from continuous chemical fertilizers and wrecking the ecology of the soil then no nutrients. Permaculture is best especially over agriculture which grows mono crops annually -- nature never grows a mono crop anywhere so if you do what nature does then you win just as nature always wins. Grow your own food and save your own seeds is the solution!!!
I want healthy food. I also want food that doesn't spoil 3 days after purchase. It's understandable from the producers standpoint to choose the longevity of the food over the nutrient value of it. Transportation, harvest, sale time, all takes time. If the produce is rotten before it gets to you then it will go to waste anyways. They are obviously working on the hybrid issues and trying to figure out how to get both. I'm sure we will figure it out in time. The more home growers we have and the more interest people have in growing food I think will speed up the process. In the meantime. Grow what you can, and get your food from farmers markets and organic produce sources. Don't give up!
My garden fruits last weeks after harvest. The grocery store fruits spoil in 3 days because they travel for weeks before they get to you and are artificially ripened
For sure. I don't doubt that home grown is better. These companies are feeding MASS amounts of people though. They say that the grocery stores only have 3 days worth of food at any given time. So if anything were to happen, the stores would run out within 3 days. I do agree with you. We've grown stuff here at home that has lasted incredibly long compared to store bought food.@@MariThomas01
I am growing the GMO purple tomato. It has a lot more nutrients than any other tomato. I hope they start making all fruit and vegetables more nutrient dense.
Conclusion... Hybrid plants and GMO plants have less nutrients therefore less health benefits.. but yield much more money... And the 'eternal tomato' got created 5:55 😅
And we know just what these eternal tomatoes taste like... It must have been a pack of these I bought some years ago. They were tasteless. No one in the family wanted to use them, and I hid most of them in other dishes - until I threw the last one in the back garden, in late Autumn. I hate food waste, so this goes to show ehat an awful product it was. It stayed there for weeks, like a little orange beacon, shining in the garden. We marvelled both at the fact that it lasted so long - and no other creature would touch it. Suddenly, one day it just vanished. Up to that point it didn't even have a blemish on it... Walked off on its own - so my husband claimed. I'm growing my own this year.
I used store bought tomato seeds and when they grew they were sooo beautiful and perfect looking but they didn’t really taste much different than grocery store tomatoes. I did this as an experiment because I wanted to see if homegrown would taste better than grocery store tomatoes if you use the same seeds but it didn’t seem to make a difference. You gotta get heirloom seeds to grow delicious tomatos.
Biology, biology, biology!!!!!! Not yield we are loosing biology and fungi in agriculture land at a rapid rate. Monoculture and the use of chemicals and artificial fertiliser changes the relationship between the soil and the plant roots. A lot of the nutrients are locked up in the soil or washed away. I am not saying hybridisation does not play a roll but biology in the soil is far far more important!!! Plants are not grown by NPK alone As for big ag... It's like big pharma despicable
Its all about the ALL MIGHTY DOLLAR, THE GOD OF THE WORLD, ALL BOW DOWN AND PAY HUMMAGE..............................................................................
I could be wrong but is the nutrient testing more reflective of the conditions the tomato was grown in (soil quality) as opposed the variety or whether it is a hybrid/heirloom.
Like most modern documentaries, almost unwatchable for people with hearing problems due to every scene having intrusive levels of accompanying music. I won't call it background music because it's very much in the foreground. At times the music is louder than the person speaking. As someone with multiple hearing problems, I haven't been able to watch a documentary for over a decade. A shame because it was my favourite genre.
So Limagrain pays an average of 60k for a kilo of tomato seeds to farmers in Europe, but only $115 dollars per kilo in India. Same company. Do I have that right? @ 36:25
Notice how when they ran the tests on 2 different types of tomato's but they didn't have the same soil? that is 100% the more likely answer and they are so anti GMO they are ignoring things that are inconvenient to their narrative
If the soil has all the menirals then it conducts back too the fruits and vegetables.if your soil is in excellent shape then the things you grow must be for the proper season and you will fill a few tables full of food if done properly
There was a genetically modified tomato that was popular in research at least as far back as 2008 called the “100 day tomato”. I wonder if that pollen got out. This tomato would stay green on a shelf not spoiling or going bad for over 100 days.
But what can you do if it's the parents and the children who volunteered to go there and find a job even for a low wage?! They have to eat every day. and there's a scarcity of job opportunities in their place. You don't give them money to support them and there are many of them. Even if you go to the government, they will just bluff you there and promise a lot but after you leave them, i wonder if they will ever go and help these many poor people...
What stock did they start from? Just wondering if they hybreed any that have already been genetically modified and some how through the hybreeding process they get to drop the gmo label
Conclusion: if you want good tomatoes, taste and nutritions buy to local producers and pay for it; if you don't want or you can't, buy this comercial ping pong balls and eat it enjoy if you can! 🤢
The black spots on the heirloom tomato is calcium defficiency. If effects the shelf life and those spots are a entry point for pathogens so if you grow a good tomato it will have a longer shelf life. Hybrids are bred for the growing ease too not just for the shelf life.
To be fair, the supermarket tomato was obviously quite a bit older than the freshly picked one and would have lost a lot of nutrients sitting on the shelf as well.
Kids should be allowed to work .. .. it teaches them the value of money and hard work ... kids used to work, that generation is healthier, smarter, and better workers
It's not the plants, it's the soil. They take the nutrients out of the soil and if they're not replaced it eventuality causes deficiencies. Many big farms have been farming the same land for centuries without replacing the removed minerals. The plants can't uptake what isn't there. As a result, the plants have less nutrients than they did years ago. 👨🌾
You know, there is a lot of variation in the analysis of foods, especially from different soils. You can't just say "every" vegetable has lost nutritional value.
What about the depletion of nutrients from the soil? Surely overreliance on N/P/K (nitrogen, phosphorus and potassium) for yield and only correcting when plants show distress is a less-than-optimal practice if we want nutritious food??? We also have soil biota problems because of our reliance on insoluble fertilizers and other synthetic chemical inputs that hamper healthy diverse microorganisms, nematodes, mycelium, carbon sequestration, etc. Think fruit size is only part of the considerations. Soil health is an importanr factor as well.
@@dolly7639 I agree. I think the ultimate goal is to justify the depopulation agenda in the commoners' minds. Know that those in the WEF think depopulation is good for them...
I grow my own fruits and vegetables. Frankly speaking, commercial veg taste like plastic garbage to me and I cannot eat them anymore. Humanities problem is that we insist on multiplying to our own injury. If you want to feed the world healthy food, try having a population that is capable of being fed...
I grow over a dozen hybrid varieties of tomatoes every year. And a few heirloom varieties. All including the hybrids are very tasty. The seeds come from companies such as High Mowing Organic Seeds. Nothing wrong with hybrid seeds per se. Nutritional content of any vegetable or fruit (or grain or meat) is almost entirely to the health of the soil, which is determined by the richness and diversity of the soil micro biome. This program misses the real villain in the story which is industrial farming practices.
I wonder where High Mowing Organic Seeds gets their seeds from. They're a retailer, and no indication of how to follow the supply chain. I wish all seed retailers would offer more transparency.
This makes me glad I never buy tomatoes or tomato products anymore, not for over four years, and when I did, they were heritage varieties. A carnivore or near-carnivore diet would be a way not to support this terrible system. At least they don't hybridize pasture-yet.
We need more home gardeners ❤
Yes sir
I personally think its being made more difficult and expensive to do decent home gardening..
And maybe less messing about with genetics
We need more home ranchers.
Not according to the USDA who right now is planning to implement a ban on home gardens. This is criminal.
We ALL need to grow what we can for ourselves and buy only when we NEED to.
I live on the line of zone 8b/9a in Louisiana. I`m on a low Social Security Disability income in a very rural area far from stores, living in a camper with no car, so I have to try to stay focused daily on growing fresh foods. In the room I`m in now there`s a wide variety of nutrient dense foods growing and more outside, plus I have fig trees, blackberry vines, strawberries, and just got a mulberry tree. I`ve had to adapt to my limitations and it`s very difficult but if I want fresh foods it`s up to me to produce them and every little victory is a huge important win. I`m planning to start more than a dozen more fruit trees this year with help from my nephew and set up some tiny greenhouses under the edge of my camper roof to get a headstart in late winter for better production and be able to ripen certain things as cold weather moves in at the end of the year.
Yay, for the rebel seed growers. Seeds Without Frontiers!!!!❤
Moral of the story...creating dependency has detrimental effects. Grow what you can to avoid the poison they sell us. Food quality is critical...don't trust the system to provide for you.
I love how you wannabe hippies assume everyone has the land to grow enough food for themselves where the hell are you going to grow enough tomatoes for yourself in the middle of a city
If you don't have room for an outdoor garden, you still have options. Obviously, no space = no yield. For those who have a modest sized yard, they have the ability to grow great high yielding crops and subsidize the cost of produce which is significant in the current market. Nothing to do with being a hippie...I see it as independence/self sufficiency.
@@eduwino151you can always rent a lot at a community garden
In the desert especially you can go ultra-high-density if you're regenerating or improving an already regenerated soil instead of constantly degrading it with e.g. poisons, lots of tilling, removing yard waste from the property, not composting kitchen scraps etc. In the desert we use a foot of arborist mulch, we chop and drop, we grow leguminous trees and palms for chop and drop especially, we compost everything many different ways, we employ log edgings for hugelkultur, we inoculate with wormcasting tea and beneficial fungi, we deep water etc. 4:48
‘Grow what you can’ but not with hybrid f1 seeds that you are forced to buy annually. Grow Heirloom seeds and save seed.
I grew super 100 tomatoes in my backyard garden. After harvesting, without washing, they remained edible for 1 month and 4 days. No mildew at all. Commercial AG is the problem.
yep I bet they overwatered the commercial crop for quick production and the higher water content would make them go off quicker
@@NickSBaileyThey are also picked very unripe and probably bad fertilizing (just basic synthetic shit)
Nightshades are bad for you. Tomatoes belong to the same family as Belladonna.
@@Yourmom-tc4rn They aren't bad for you. Physalis, Peppers, Eggplants, Tomatillos are nightshades, too. As well as potatoes. Beans can be deadly poisonous if not prepared right. Cucumbers and Pumpkins can contain alkaloids (cucurbitacin) which has killed people before and not too many years ago either. There'll be barely anything left to eat for you, at least nothing that has considerable amounts of calories and healthy minerals and antioxidants.
And you do realize that plant families etc. are categories made up by humans? That categorization has been made by humans in 1597, in a time when people widely believed that tomatoes were closely related to belladona and thus, toxic.
It's not a nature given categorization and does not equal to "all nightshades = poisonous".
It took humanity 200 years to realize that tomatoes aren't toxic and today Solanin/Capsaicin is pretty well understood and studied. So yeah, the toxicity myth has been debunked somewhere between the late 1700-1800's.
Belladonna contains tropane alkaloids, such as atropine, hyoscine (scopolamine), and hyoscyamine. Those are not found in tomatoes or other edible plants from the nightshade family.
Even compared to one another, Belladonna looks nothing like the garden tomato or peppers/eggplants.
But yeah, there's been a wad of quacks jumping back on the "tomato toxicity" train to make a quick buck of it because they claim they have found the *one* flaw in our diet.
@@Yourmom-tc4rn Most human food comes from a handful of plant families. They ALL produce toxic compounds. It is about knowing which parts and how to prepare.
Wow! I was planning to plant hybrid tomatoes to get more harvest but after seeing this, I have to plant more heirlooms. Thank you for sharing this to the public! We need to know if the food we eat is really good for our body. No wonder why so many people are sick even if they eat vegetables from the store.
We can fight this with knowledge and action! Happy gardening this year and enjoy your heirlooms!
Same, now I'm trying to figure out what seeds to order.
I don't believe the eat what they experiment on,they sell it to other countries.
Perfect, now see that you grow in healthy soil. Please read up about this and teach others.
Thanks 👍
WE must all grow food with composting, using worms, manure and minerals---only way to improve our food content.
a big chunk of the population does not have even a patch of land to grow their own food
@@eduwino151 There is a patch of public land that anyone can find. In fact alot of people in those conditions take the initiative and organize a community garden.
@@eduwino151no one cares unfortunately. Either you suffer and get that land hoping you aren't dead by the time you are able to buy it or just make sure your parents weren't dumb enough to have you without any land .
@@eduwino151 fight back and ask your city or town for land to grow with other neighbors---many areas do have this.
Or you can go to a farmers' market or find a local farmer with an online store who practices regenerative/biological/natural methods.
No one should ever have a patent on vegetable or fruit plants, growing food must remain a human right.
Absolutely agree! We must specifically advocate to protect this right NOW! Unfortunately, it is being attacked from many sides. Even meat as well.
It isn't a food issue.
You can buy patented plants and produce all the food you want. The only thing you CAN'T do with a patented plant is aesexually propagate it and then SELL it.
Do you believe that you should be allowed to record in the theaters, then sell the video?
You expect to be paid for whatever work you do. Why would you deny that expectation of others work?
@@RedGreen-xf1nq... it's a paradox...
There are lots of small independent seed companies in Canada. Most of their offerings are heirloom, open pollinated and some are organic. Some offer F1 seeds but it’s not what they’re known for. Here in Nova Scotia they offer unique pumpkin seeds from native peoples that thrive in our maritime temperate climate.Scotia tomatoes, novaspy apples, lupins etc
Where can I find more information on this please?
Google local seed com@@BrentRWong242
We bought Scotia tomato seeds a few years back and they are amazing!! We've grown and harvested the seeds for 3 years now and they are still our most dependable, tastiest tomato crop yet. They other big brand, mass produced tomato hybrid strains have comparatively been more disappointing on flavour. Sure hybrids produce bigger, redder tomatoes but they can't trump the Heirloom Scotias!
@@stephcameron9325 Thank you
Excellent documentary on a vital topic! A key point to note is that nutrient density starts with genetics BUT is also heavily influenced by farming practices i.e. natural vs synthetic/industrial farming!
I believe this is the real reason
Amazing documentary! I'm surprised that I didn't see anything about soil health and how it correlates to fruit nutrition though. Perhaps that could be an entire documentary of its own? Comparing nutrition in hydroponic vegetable vs small scale vegetables.
Very true point.!! Strange that. Nutrition comes hand in hand with soil health
You didn't see anything about soil health in this because these people have no clue what they are talking about. Bringing in the concept of soil and soil health would expose the MAIN reason for nutritional profile differences.
In school we experimented with alfalfa and a few different grasses. . feed for cattle. You get HUGE nutrient differences base soley on what soil type a plant is grown in. You get even bigger differences (even in the same soil type) based on microbiome of soils. Most people have no idea how big of a role microbes have in soil.
Food getting more expensive and less nutritious. :(
Comes down to the fertilizer. You can use watered down pee. Fish scraps. Chicken poo. Etc.
Don't flush, go in a bucket & feed your ground.
@nikkinik4188 thank you. I've been watching for years as the weeds and grass on my leech field and septic are the healthiest on my property.
This is why I grow as much as I can in my back yard. No chemicals, deep mulch. It's a lot of work, but worth it.
I am having so much fun learning to grow all this stuff at my house. It really is the perfect thing to visit once a day and clear the mind and relax and care for plants.
Nothing better than getting up each morning with coffee in hand taking a stroll round the garden to inspect progress and feel the abundant well ernt
An interesting experiment would be to produce heirloom and modern hybrid varieties in the same soils and with the same cultural practices and compare the nutritional profiles. That could shed light on the argument that the difference is down to culture rather than genetics.
Don't just take any heirloom. . . That is just accepting a whole grab bag full of uncontrolled variables. This is the BS they pulled and relied on in the video. This would be like taking a Great Dane and comparing it to a Red Heeler / Sheppard mix. You need to compare the Red Heeler / Sheppard mix to Red Heelers and Sheppards.
Take the genetic sources for the hybrid and compare to the hybrid. If the nutrient profile is significantly different under identical growth conditions. . . . it won't be. Remember where the genes for the hybrid came from in the first place.
Different soils, etc. . do have a large impact on nutritional profiles. Studied this at uni with alfalfa and some other grasses that are common in feed for cattle. Congrats on spotting that.
Learning how to make soil for growing at home is a good skill to learn. Most of the problems with what plants contain are caused by the fertilizers used, and the lack of trace elements.
Now I understand better. Thank you for shedding light on this issue. Am shaking my head at multinationals and their greedy shareholders (tbh i used to work for one). They always used to say, we are not a charity and must always show profit else a division or business unit will be sold.
I’ve been talking about this and ppl think I’m going too far with what is healthiest to eat.
It’s sad cause 90% of our choices to eat is poison
People will always naturally respond defending what they already know. You do anything different you are crazy. Weird etc.
Don't waste your time on them. Just look after yourself :)
It has not so much to do with the varieties used but with the soil. Big machinery, too much disturbance of the soil, no organic matter and synthetic fertilizers with only NPK, are killing the soil.
A dead soil can't properly feed the plants.
Soil health is a factor - but seed genetics also make a big difference
¡Gracias!
I grow from rare seeds, heirloom & ancient seeds. I continually nourish my soil with healthy amendments as well.
Are you selling your seeds.🤔
That why you need local farmers
I can't help but think that the seed vault in Norway is somehow involved in this entire scheme. If these seed manufacturing companies continue to buyout smaller seed companies, our food choices as a people will become extremely limited. Which is why we should participate in local seed libraries and support local farmers to the best of our ability.
100000000%% True we must decide for ourselves, mot them for us.
Exactly. Where's your community. Mine is in DFW Texas.
A good seed is important, but more important is the soil biology where the seed is going to live specially if the seed is inoculated with the right micros before planting....
Świetny program, dziękuję. Mam w ogrodzie swoje warzywa, bardzo smaczne i zdrowe.
thank you for making/sharing this documentary
Mangoes 🥭 have not lost their nutritional values
Nothing lost its nutritional value, it's just that "conventional" farming and food chemistry dominate more than ever.
Amazing documentary! Thank you for sharing .
As a market gardener I do have some sympathy with the seed companies, they sell what people want, like it or not. I would go to market with an assortment of tomatoes, mostly heirloom, a few hybrids. The heirlooms tasted great, didn't look so good. The hybrids looked good but had no flavor. I'd tell customers exactly that, and much of the time they'd go for the hybrid because it "looked good". Pretty frustrating to say the least, but there was definitely some educated consumers who wanted to buy flavor. Fortunately these days there are a ton of small, local seed companies producing heirloom seed. Unfortunately the biggest, most promoted and most well known sells whatever is cheapest and often has very poor quality seed, so just because a seed comes with a great "story" doesn't mean it's good seed. Try an assortment of companies and pick the one that produces the best results.
On local weekly markets (Belgium) they used to give people the chance to taste the fruits and vegetables before buying them. Today these local markets are less visited. Markets often offer a better price, but they do not give you the opportunity to taste before buying.
This is our experience too. We have a brownish variety of apple that is by FAR the best tasting apple. I can't sell it at all, unless I get them to taste it. . Most folks that buy predominantly from the grocery store just don't know what is "good."
@@RedGreen-xf1nq Where are you located? What kind of apple?
Tomatoes are picked green, they store for 1 year then they induce ripening by putting them with ripe tomatoes. The huge losses in flavour and nutrients is not really a surprise. This is practiced with many types of fruit they don't do this with leafy greens, cabbage, broccoli or similar vegetables.
They also strip the land and let the wind erode the top soil off which they pump fertilizer into the soil to counter.
I think this has as much impact as the genetic selection and hybrid breeding.
The guy being interviewed at around the 25min mark was avoiding the point as much as he possibly could, to obviously protect the companies image... But what he should have said was that theyre providing what the market demands, and should the demand change, then they would obviously have to shift their business model
The market is changing. Know your farmer, know your food. Small farmer over big pharma. This food is playing right into their hands. Food power to the people!
@@cprove5751I love your comment! We should all be growing as much of our own food and supporting local ranchers and farmers.
Everybody's a gangsta until the meat printer comes
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LOL
Did you see SciShow channel's taste test of 'cultured chicken?'
Tastes just like the real thing, has the same texture, and there's a strong probability that they could tweak nutrient levels - so that younger generations can actually enjoy the taste of chicken such as we older generations used to have.
Chicken nowadays tastes so bland compared to that I had when I was a wee kid. Not really surprising. Chickens have been bred selectively to increase their weight 5 times from their original state.
So, just like the tomatoes in this video, the genetic markers in the chicken have caused the original amount of nutrition and taste in a smaller chicken to become spread out over a larger product.
As other people say on many nutritional videos, it's no wonder people keep eating and eating uncontrollably - their bodies are genetically attuned to seek nutritional satisfaction on a daily basis, but modern ultra processed foods, foods overloaded with sugar and modified starches, and nutrient poor fresh foods simply don't supply it.
@@Debbie-henri A few cloned cells grown in a lab chemical vat is not going to be the same (nutrition, taste, texture, etc.) as a living, whole animal and they fake the lab grown meats to make them look real and taste better with artificial additives and colors.
I was a university horticulture student in the late 80s. Back then the seed companies were patenting their product and development of their seed and fertilizer systems in order to control everything. Our instructor told us of a farmer that was still using conventional seed ( cs) while his neighbor was using a contracted program seed (ps). The ps rep came out to inspect the crop and noticed that a few ps plants, in this case it was field corn, in the cs field edge growing because it looked different. The seed had either been spilled during planting or possibly a bird had carried it and dropped it, so it grew. Long story short, since the cs farmer hadn't contracted to use the ps, he was charged with theft and eventually lost his farm through the courts because the programmed seed company had more money to do financial damage and eventually they took the farm during auction.
Sad world we live in where the seeds we used to plant became a lab manipulated and patented product . The program seed company was Monsanto and the program seed was the development of the glyphosate resistant seed corn.
this has been known for some time now - first looked into this maybe 15 years ago and this decline in minerals and vitamins across the board...blessings to all
One kilo of tomato seeds produced in India costs 115 dollar and is sold for 67.000 euro's in Europe..
In the meanwhile only children and woman are doing the labor because men ask too much for a pay? The world is broken :(
There are many worse atrocities in the world than this, unfortunately.
Electroculture Gardening is an outstanding method to grow more and better vegetables without fertilizer. Electroculture has been used in agriculture as far back as the Pyramids.
watching this from my vegetable farm feeling like im on the right track
Not just the seeds, but our soil has been depleted
I've been against using F1 seeds for a while, mainly because I like to save seeds, but I still buy the odd one. I had no idea about the child labour or the poor pay given to the people doing the work. It's worth spreading this documentary around, more people need to know about it.
One thing I will say is that hybrids on their own aren't necessarily a bad thing, it's how we get new varieties (once they've been bred true), but produced in this way, for these reasons is not good.
The sheer level of greed by the companies, with the farm getting mere dollars for the seed compared to tens of thousands the company sells them for is a true reflection of the world currently. Money is filtered to go to those with money already, they don't care about the rest.
Incredible, how little they pay the Indian farms for the tomato seed that they sell for over 60.000 Euros per kilo! It's disgusting
Well the indians should wakeup on the other hand indians believe in sharing what God provides, beliefs are God didn't give one keep for themselves. When you go 6ft under you take nothing with you. That's why so many indian medicines ie turmeric, ginger,garlic etcetera etc they share and teach other cultures. They dont do Patents like the western countries and make billions getting rich on others knowledge.
Wow u was just talking with a friend that I wanted to do a test on store bought fruits compared to home grown fruits veg on their nutrient value and this pops up cool.
Most of the produce varities in stores are selected for longevity on the shelf. Not nutrition or taste. Home grown will almost always taste better.
I think phones listen to us. My girlfriend and I were talking about her new vacuum and an add for a vacuum came up when I got home.
@midwestribeye7820 well they do but I'm not afraid because God in Heaven sees all those peeping Tom's lol and they have their reward.
If you can grow the plant from seeds from your area and year after year in your garden then within 3 years you have an adapted plant and the hybrid gets breed out ... nutrients come from the soil. If the soil is depleted from continuous chemical fertilizers and wrecking the ecology of the soil then no nutrients. Permaculture is best especially over agriculture which grows mono crops annually -- nature never grows a mono crop anywhere so if you do what nature does then you win just as nature always wins.
Grow your own food and save your own seeds is the solution!!!
I want healthy food. I also want food that doesn't spoil 3 days after purchase. It's understandable from the producers standpoint to choose the longevity of the food over the nutrient value of it. Transportation, harvest, sale time, all takes time. If the produce is rotten before it gets to you then it will go to waste anyways. They are obviously working on the hybrid issues and trying to figure out how to get both. I'm sure we will figure it out in time. The more home growers we have and the more interest people have in growing food I think will speed up the process. In the meantime. Grow what you can, and get your food from farmers markets and organic produce sources. Don't give up!
My garden fruits last weeks after harvest. The grocery store fruits spoil in 3 days because they travel for weeks before they get to you and are artificially ripened
For sure. I don't doubt that home grown is better. These companies are feeding MASS amounts of people though. They say that the grocery stores only have 3 days worth of food at any given time. So if anything were to happen, the stores would run out within 3 days. I do agree with you. We've grown stuff here at home that has lasted incredibly long compared to store bought food.@@MariThomas01
I am growing the GMO purple tomato. It has a lot more nutrients than any other tomato. I hope they start making all fruit and vegetables more nutrient dense.
19:23 - gold nuggets 🎉
Conclusion... Hybrid plants and GMO plants have less nutrients therefore less health benefits.. but yield much more money... And the 'eternal tomato' got created 5:55 😅
And we know just what these eternal tomatoes taste like...
It must have been a pack of these I bought some years ago. They were tasteless. No one in the family wanted to use them, and I hid most of them in other dishes - until I threw the last one in the back garden, in late Autumn. I hate food waste, so this goes to show ehat an awful product it was.
It stayed there for weeks, like a little orange beacon, shining in the garden. We marvelled both at the fact that it lasted so long - and no other creature would touch it. Suddenly, one day it just vanished. Up to that point it didn't even have a blemish on it... Walked off on its own - so my husband claimed.
I'm growing my own this year.
Moral - Trust your taste and smell
I used store bought tomato seeds and when they grew they were sooo beautiful and perfect looking but they didn’t really taste much different than grocery store tomatoes. I did this as an experiment because I wanted to see if homegrown would taste better than grocery store tomatoes if you use the same seeds but it didn’t seem to make a difference. You gotta get heirloom seeds to grow delicious tomatos.
Wow!
Intelligent agriculture is a quintessential aspect of human history. Lately we are going down a wrong path. Focus on what humanity needs, not profits.
Biology, biology, biology!!!!!! Not yield we are loosing biology and fungi in agriculture land at a rapid rate. Monoculture and the use of chemicals and artificial fertiliser changes the relationship between the soil and the plant roots. A lot of the nutrients are locked up in the soil or washed away. I am not saying hybridisation does not play a roll but biology in the soil is far far more important!!! Plants are not grown by NPK alone
As for big ag... It's like big pharma despicable
I have the feeling that this video is going to be interesting, but inflated to be five times longer than it should be
Awesome documentary!
Its all about the ALL MIGHTY DOLLAR, THE GOD OF THE WORLD, ALL BOW DOWN AND PAY HUMMAGE..............................................................................
Would, if I knew what Hummage was.... ;-)
@@stonward ikr ? Sounds like this person was thinking if hummus. Either way, sounds good and I'd eat it if there were such thing
*hommage
My cat Fred agrees!
I think this documentary was published before too, with different name.
I could be wrong but is the nutrient testing more reflective of the conditions the tomato was grown in (soil quality) as opposed the variety or whether it is a hybrid/heirloom.
26:14 😂 the surprising reaction of the lady is saying all
You can see Prof Rahinovich is very proud of his work, but the reporter was not there to praise him at all
Like most modern documentaries, almost unwatchable for people with hearing problems due to every scene having intrusive levels of accompanying music. I won't call it background music because it's very much in the foreground. At times the music is louder than the person speaking. As someone with multiple hearing problems, I haven't been able to watch a documentary for over a decade. A shame because it was my favourite genre.
So Limagrain pays an average of 60k for a kilo of tomato seeds to farmers in Europe, but only $115 dollars per kilo in India. Same company. Do I have that right? @ 36:25
It is called soil depletion! Every year the crops deplete the soils.
Notice how when they ran the tests on 2 different types of tomato's but they didn't have the same soil? that is 100% the more likely answer and they are so anti GMO they are ignoring things that are inconvenient to their narrative
This was quite rhe eye opener
If more people would grow there own food and had a few chickens we would have a lot less waste and lower cost
I guess if you get all your vitamins from store bought tomatoes, you're in trouble.
If the soil has all the menirals then it conducts back too the fruits and vegetables.if your soil is in excellent shape then the things you grow must be for the proper season and you will fill a few tables full of food if done properly
There was a genetically modified tomato that was popular in research at least as far back as 2008 called the “100 day tomato”. I wonder if that pollen got out. This tomato would stay green on a shelf not spoiling or going bad for over 100 days.
Very sadly big corporate explore chaidren to produce seeds for mi
Greed is killing the world
But what can you do if it's the parents and the children who volunteered to go there and find a job even for a low wage?! They have to eat every day. and there's a scarcity of job opportunities in their place. You don't give them money to support them and there are many of them. Even if you go to the government, they will just bluff you there and promise a lot but after you leave them, i wonder if they will ever go and help these many poor people...
Test homesteaders Permaculture gardens. Im very curious
What stock did they start from? Just wondering if they hybreed any that have already been genetically modified and some how through the hybreeding process they get to drop the gmo label
I will not buy that less expensive less nutritious fruit, I'd rather plant and grow our nutritious native tomato 😊
Conclusion: if you want good tomatoes, taste and nutritions buy to local producers and pay for it; if you don't want or you can't, buy this comercial ping pong balls and eat it enjoy if you can! 🤢
The black spots on the heirloom tomato is calcium defficiency. If effects the shelf life and those spots are a entry point for pathogens so if you grow a good tomato it will have a longer shelf life. Hybrids are bred for the growing ease too not just for the shelf life.
Someone needs to run these tests with the tomatoes grown in the exact same soil before we really know for sure what the difference is.
To be fair, the supermarket tomato was obviously quite a bit older than the freshly picked one and would have lost a lot of nutrients sitting on the shelf as well.
a pot is a good beginning
Kids should be allowed to work .. .. it teaches them the value of money and hard work ... kids used to work, that generation is healthier, smarter, and better workers
The greed of those companies knows no limits and has no conscience.
It's not the plants, it's the soil. They take the nutrients out of the soil and if they're not replaced it eventuality causes deficiencies. Many big farms have been farming the same land for centuries without replacing the removed minerals. The plants can't uptake what isn't there. As a result, the plants have less nutrients than they did years ago. 👨🌾
Pineapple can make vodka. Good for you .
Also helps your lungs ❤
Grow what you can and find a good market garden for what you can't
What about petroleum fertilizers?😊
See regenerative agriculture if this interests you. Explains the consequences of the use of fert. Gabe Brown, kiss the ground are good places to start
You know, there is a lot of variation in the analysis of foods, especially from different soils. You can't just say "every" vegetable has lost nutritional value.
21:00 Results
Wow, food is addressed as an "effective mutation".
all these traits are well and good BUT to me the most important trait is NUTRITION. WHY EAT ANYTHING IF IT HAS NO NUTRITION
What about the depletion of nutrients from the soil?
Surely overreliance on N/P/K (nitrogen, phosphorus and potassium) for yield and only correcting when plants show distress is a less-than-optimal practice if we want nutritious food???
We also have soil biota problems because of our reliance on insoluble fertilizers and other synthetic chemical inputs that hamper healthy diverse microorganisms, nematodes, mycelium, carbon sequestration, etc.
Think fruit size is only part of the considerations. Soil health is an importanr factor as well.
Then they would have to admit that grazing animals are integral to best siol fertility. They'd have to admit we need cows-- the horror!
@@dolly7639
I agree. I think the ultimate goal is to justify the depopulation agenda in the commoners' minds. Know that those in the WEF think depopulation is good for them...
Interesting
I grow my own fruits and vegetables. Frankly speaking, commercial veg taste like plastic garbage to me and I cannot eat them anymore. Humanities problem is that we insist on multiplying to our own injury. If you want to feed the world healthy food, try having a population that is capable of being fed...
or willing and allowed to grow vegetables to feed itself instead of relying upon mass commercialized grown vegetables
You can buy the ACE tomato seeds online for home gardening.
Are those the same ones?
Internalization of all jobs, has pushed prices down, and salaries down.
I grow over a dozen hybrid varieties of tomatoes every year. And a few heirloom varieties. All including the hybrids are very tasty. The seeds come from companies such as High Mowing Organic Seeds. Nothing wrong with hybrid seeds per se. Nutritional content of any vegetable or fruit (or grain or meat) is almost entirely to the health of the soil, which is determined by the richness and diversity of the soil micro biome. This program misses the real villain in the story which is industrial farming practices.
I wonder where High Mowing Organic Seeds gets their seeds from. They're a retailer, and no indication of how to follow the supply chain. I wish all seed retailers would offer more transparency.
And lab forced GMO and transgenic plants!
This makes me glad I never buy tomatoes or tomato products anymore, not for over four years, and when I did, they were heritage varieties. A carnivore or near-carnivore diet would be a way not to support this terrible system. At least they don't hybridize pasture-yet.
Nothing but greed 😢😢😢😢😢
They want to control the world Food supply.
Control the seed them you control the world.
There are too many variables to really get an accurate comparison. From the seed genetics to soil and different climate.
The French can use those nutrition-LESS tomatoes as flying objects to the Ministry of Agriculture.
400 cross pollinations every year lead to a new commercial tomato hybrid F1.
26:51 You're kidding?????