This is what's generally referred to as a DAS, direct attach storage, and the price isn't actually all that bad. The one I've had my eye on from QNAP is only a four drive rack mount, and it's $500. If they had a competitively priced shallow 1U rack mount option with four drive bays... I'd be all over that.
If you use Windows, you can actually use Stablebits Drivepool to create a pool of disks of misc. sizes how you see fit. Then all you do is remove the drive letters in Disk Management, and you just have a single drive letter enabled by the Drivepool software
Its a DAS and its very good storage system for home or personal use, or as backup for NAS. I've got 4 drive slot model (D4-320) price is more affordable, with up to 88TB storage, just perfect for my own use.
Windows has a built in drivepool which supports raid 1,5,6,10. You can use different size disks and it optimizes it and you get all the speed advantages and redundancy. Give it a try, you will be surprised how good it is. Some of the disk recovery software can also read damaged windows pools, so you can recover a damaged array, that none of the dedicated das drives support. Note windows raid stores the info in the array so you can plug in any machine
I assume you mean storage spaces? I had the same idea too. You can create something RAID 1 alike. The big advantage is: you can plug it into any windows PC and that RAID1 (mirror) is recognized right away... Kind of a neat box to allow terrabytes and terrabytes to move between compputers (oh, and you also could use it as a cold storage box: hook it up to a small windows PC with a 10G nic to allow to transfer files. Switch on to make your cold storage backup and switch off... Need to restore: hook it up to the machine where you want to restore to et voila.... restore at 10Gbps)
@@RealLordy yes correct it's storage spaces. I run raid 5 on different size disks. Windows maximizes the space and i have redundancy. It's my backblaze disk, so I also have 50tb offsite storage for around $75 per year, and local storage with redundancy. I tried Todo file recovery and it can read the Microsoft drives individually, so i am not sure how it stores the data, but it looks like I can recover some data locally if the array fails. I tried the terramaster raid 5. It was a bit faster but if it goes bad nothing can read ot
I have a lot of large language models, loras, and merges that I don't want to get rid of. This is perfect for me, I can easily fill up 18tb drives and I have an internal solution, but I was looking for an external hot swappable solution that uses USBC exactly what you reviewed!
Your videos just appeared in my feed and I love your channel now you give good comparisons for all thing and test them One thing I can't find is that no SATA SSD comparisons which one to buy for best price and performance ❤
I think the extra $$ is for the industrial metal build quality. I also dig the esthetics...even though this would probably sit in a network closet somewhere.
This is exactly what I need! This will give me 10gbit storage with linux raid capability without having to upgrade my home lan from 1gbit for a 10gb NAS. Take that into account when considering the price. It would cost me much more than the cost of this unit to upgrade my lan switches and cabling.
Hi, Ah, the good old concept of "Plug and Prey!" I know it would cut the speed in half, but as a backup or as a data store for documents and other stuff that doesn't require very fast read/writes I would add two of them to the USB Ports on the back of a Terramaster U8-450 NAS. It seems like a very convenient, same manufacturer, method of significantly increasing the capacity of the main NAS which due to hardware limitations, would otherwise be impossible. Ta, Peter.
i use a Sandisk 8bay jbod. it was $300 about 13 years ago sata3. Odd how the industry managed to raise or maintain same price on such existing tech, including conn licenses.
I need to see if I can get a USB-C hat for my Rpi5, yeah the Pi5 might only have a singe Gen3 PCIe lane for data, but having 6 cheap spinning rust drives attached would make a great home NAS
Actually instead of replacing the USB-C board, maybe relocate it and put a SBC with USB-C inside the case and machine out some slots on the back for extra ports
Great if you want to have access to loads of files at USB 3.x speed without the complications of a network. Perhaps you're using a laptop, but still need access to the files of different drives. Well if those drives are MyBooks or MyPassports you're either going to need a separate power brick for each HDD, or you're going to need a powered USB 3.x hub or run out of USB 3.x ports. Easier in some respects to have the JBOD enclosure for a single power supply, single USB 3.x port, easier access to your files with USB 3.x speed. For me, I'd use it with my laptop to expand its access to the nearly 70 TBs of offline capacity that I currently have. So instead of needing to hunt for the right MyBook or MyPassport drive, I'd have immediate access to everything from a single enclosure. While also protecting the backups on my offline storage.
What I find interesting isn't that the SSD was 'only' going 5gb, due to it being SATA...but rather the slower HDD's which are basically empty going SOOooo slow compared to any other drive I've used with a lot of data, nearly 200MB/s yet these were going less than 50MB? wow, something odd
hi i want to buy a pc to become a youtuber and i dont know what cpu to choose an r5 3600 or an i3 12100f.I want one of this two because the rest ones are to expensive in my country and the i3 12100f is about 20 bucks more than the r5 3600 evan on the second market.
People should know that these units DO NOT DAISY CHAIN as Terramaster claims, and that Terramaster knows this, but do not tell anyone and then refuse warranty claims. Buyer beware here.
Love this enclosure for a NAS, but the NAS version of it is overpriced and performs terribly. Given the space inside this chassis I wonder if it's possible to get a single-board computer to fit in there and connect to the drives? If you remove the USB-C board that's currently in there, does the PCB connector look like a PCI express connector I wonder? That would simplify such a mod greatly
I wouldn't use it at all. Why not just buy a bigger PC case that already has bays for HDDs? Or better yet, HDDs and SSDs? And it would be an entire case for less than the $300 for this thing. No thank you.
This is what's generally referred to as a DAS, direct attach storage, and the price isn't actually all that bad. The one I've had my eye on from QNAP is only a four drive rack mount, and it's $500. If they had a competitively priced shallow 1U rack mount option with four drive bays... I'd be all over that.
Just ordered a 5 bay for €130. AliExpress 😂
Good Video ,Im still running 2 terra master DS-310 for last 5yrs still going strong with no problems.
If you use Windows, you can actually use Stablebits Drivepool to create a pool of disks of misc. sizes how you see fit. Then all you do is remove the drive letters in Disk Management, and you just have a single drive letter enabled by the Drivepool software
That's a neat and simple solution for backup and storage. Thanks.
Finally a DAS review.
Its a DAS and its very good storage system for home or personal use, or as backup for NAS.
I've got 4 drive slot model (D4-320) price is more affordable, with up to 88TB storage, just perfect for my own use.
Windows has a built in drivepool which supports raid 1,5,6,10. You can use different size disks and it optimizes it and you get all the speed advantages and redundancy. Give it a try, you will be surprised how good it is. Some of the disk recovery software can also read damaged windows pools, so you can recover a damaged array, that none of the dedicated das drives support. Note windows raid stores the info in the array so you can plug in any machine
I assume you mean storage spaces? I had the same idea too. You can create something RAID 1 alike. The big advantage is: you can plug it into any windows PC and that RAID1 (mirror) is recognized right away... Kind of a neat box to allow terrabytes and terrabytes to move between compputers (oh, and you also could use it as a cold storage box: hook it up to a small windows PC with a 10G nic to allow to transfer files. Switch on to make your cold storage backup and switch off... Need to restore: hook it up to the machine where you want to restore to et voila.... restore at 10Gbps)
@@RealLordy yes correct it's storage spaces. I run raid 5 on different size disks. Windows maximizes the space and i have redundancy. It's my backblaze disk, so I also have 50tb offsite storage for around $75 per year, and local storage with redundancy. I tried Todo file recovery and it can read the Microsoft drives individually, so i am not sure how it stores the data, but it looks like I can recover some data locally if the array fails. I tried the terramaster raid 5. It was a bit faster but if it goes bad nothing can read ot
The part where you said windows raid stores the info in the array so it can be plugged into any machine is awesome! Prefect for what I need.
@@fishmonkeycow9246 Glad you found a solution
I have a lot of large language models, loras, and merges that I don't want to get rid of. This is perfect for me, I can easily fill up 18tb drives and I have an internal solution, but I was looking for an external hot swappable solution that uses USBC exactly what you reviewed!
Your videos just appeared in my feed and I love your channel now you give good comparisons for all thing and test them
One thing I can't find is that no SATA SSD comparisons which one to buy for best price and performance ❤
Nice video! Could it fit a mini-itx mainboard in the empty space? It would make a great diy nas..
the prices of external drives went up, so this would save some money to have extra storage with internal drives. I am considering it.
I think the extra $$ is for the industrial metal build quality. I also dig the esthetics...even though this would probably sit in a network closet somewhere.
This is exactly what I need! This will give me 10gbit storage with linux raid capability without having to upgrade my home lan from 1gbit for a 10gb NAS. Take that into account when considering the price. It would cost me much more than the cost of this unit to upgrade my lan switches and cabling.
Hi, Ah, the good old concept of "Plug and Prey!" I know it would cut the speed in half, but as a backup or as a data store for documents and other stuff that doesn't require very fast read/writes I would add two of them to the USB Ports on the back of a Terramaster U8-450 NAS. It seems like a very convenient, same manufacturer, method of significantly increasing the capacity of the main NAS which due to hardware limitations, would otherwise be impossible. Ta, Peter.
i use a Sandisk 8bay jbod. it was $300 about 13 years ago sata3. Odd how the industry managed to raise or maintain same price on such existing tech, including conn licenses.
This would also reduce clutter, power/USB cables and enclosures... I have lots of external drives.... I think this will work great for me. Thanks!
Yes, having a DAS is useful. I have a Synology NAS but keep my backup 0f the NAS on a OWC Thunderbolt DAS.
I need to see if I can get a USB-C hat for my Rpi5, yeah the Pi5 might only have a singe Gen3 PCIe lane for data, but having 6 cheap spinning rust drives attached would make a great home NAS
Or you get a mini pc for under €200 and have many more options. And still be cheaper than a nas
what is the point of the useless thump, thump, thump noises that make listening to your words impossible?
I am assuming this could be used to expand a windows storage spaces pool?
7:25 You can put a x86 SBC in that empty space to turn this thing into a NAS.
That's what I'm interested in too, do you think the backplane connector looks like PCIe-x4?
Actually instead of replacing the USB-C board, maybe relocate it and put a SBC with USB-C inside the case and machine out some slots on the back for extra ports
Great if you want to have access to loads of files at USB 3.x speed without the complications of a network. Perhaps you're using a laptop, but still need access to the files of different drives. Well if those drives are MyBooks or MyPassports you're either going to need a separate power brick for each HDD, or you're going to need a powered USB 3.x hub or run out of USB 3.x ports. Easier in some respects to have the JBOD enclosure for a single power supply, single USB 3.x port, easier access to your files with USB 3.x speed. For me, I'd use it with my laptop to expand its access to the nearly 70 TBs of offline capacity that I currently have. So instead of needing to hunt for the right MyBook or MyPassport drive, I'd have immediate access to everything from a single enclosure. While also protecting the backups on my offline storage.
What I find interesting isn't that the SSD was 'only' going 5gb, due to it being SATA...but rather the slower HDD's which are basically empty going SOOooo slow compared to any other drive I've used with a lot of data, nearly 200MB/s yet these were going less than 50MB? wow, something odd
The 6 disk is 10Gb, the 2 and 4 are 5, the big reason for the price difference.
and what you think about the terra master d8 hybrid?
Btw just asking,
Why we can't/don't use multiple psu's in PC's with high power consumption (like >1000w) instead of very expensive single psu
Good point! But it's the connectors on the motherboard, no space for dual PSU connectors :)
there are a few exemptions though...
@@theTechNotice don't we have to use special adaptors ?
I used an orico device once and it glitched out and I lost terrabytes of data that became unrecoverable
I’ve a doubt , it’s not detecting on my MacBook Pro any leads?
The 2 and 4 versions were only 5Gb USB speed though.
If you are just looking for a bulk storage method, Direct Attached Storages give the same storage capacity with less hassle 😃
There is no hassle with this
This is cool.......can you plug it into your routers USB port? and use SAMBA......if that works, this could be the cheapest NAS ever!
How the data transfer speed between disks within the enclosure ?
Please make a video were you plug this into a routers USB port.
Need more DAS reviews pls
dude just adapt the type C to a 10gb dongle and this thing is literally perfect
This thing should have two Thunderbolt 4 connectors.
You buy an enclosure with TB4 if you need that. Many PC mobos do not support Thunderbolt, so they sell enclosures with USB 3.2 gen 2
That is not a JBOD by default, they are individual disks.
I wish they had more Thunderbolt 4 peripherals - at a decent price - as this rig is barely faster than Sata ...
600mbits, is usb 3.0.. Not "USB 3.2 Gen2 10Gbps" as they say.
It does the same as Mediasonic drive bays for about 50% more money.
with a little bit tinkering you could easily make this a NAS. but not for that price actually.
hi i want to buy a pc to become a youtuber and i dont know what cpu to choose an r5 3600 or an i3 12100f.I want one of this two because the rest ones are to expensive in my country and the i3 12100f is about 20 bucks more than the r5 3600 evan on the second market.
i think the price dont fit, you can get a new nas for the same money like Asustor Expanstor 4
If nas fit better than this then you can go get the nas
But I cant find a 6bay nas with 10G speed at this price :)
People should know that these units DO NOT DAISY CHAIN as Terramaster claims, and that Terramaster knows this, but do not tell anyone and then refuse warranty claims.
Buyer beware here.
Love this enclosure for a NAS, but the NAS version of it is overpriced and performs terribly. Given the space inside this chassis I wonder if it's possible to get a single-board computer to fit in there and connect to the drives? If you remove the USB-C board that's currently in there, does the PCB connector look like a PCI express connector I wonder? That would simplify such a mod greatly
Looking at the size of the connector it looks like it may be PCIe-x4?
They offer the same units that also do RAID so I guess that is why the extra space in the case.
I wouldn't use it at all. Why not just buy a bigger PC case that already has bays for HDDs? Or better yet, HDDs and SSDs? And it would be an entire case for less than the $300 for this thing. No thank you.
Was this really worth making a video about? This smells a bit fishy…..are you getting bought these days?
It's just what to wanted to see ... I want 60TB available offsite for real-time backups, with no real push for speed.
I wouldn't.
Isn't Whokeys a scam?
:) then you open drive and windows give you the wrong location haha, WINDOWS lol
Way too much money. Way way over price.
Pointless, better to setup a nas.
hahahahaaha basically it is a Nas