I've been hearing OW players say the game is getting better for the longest time now, and it never gets better lmao. Like holy shit just admit the game is shit and not getting better.
As A Still Roadhog Main, It Does Suck. You Can't Take Space, You Can't Make Space, You Can't Displace Or Really Dive Anymore Either Because You'll Be Popped Like A Balloon With All The Damage You're Taking, The Enemy Tank Is Playing Mauga/Orisa, Or You Get Anti Naded, And THEN Popped. The Competitive Side Of The Game Is Either Filled With Hackers Or Sweaty Twelve Year Old Who Have So Much Dopamine Stored In Their Brain, They Might Explode If They Stop Being So Fking Sweaty. I'm General: The Game Itself Is Indeed Very Sh**ty, Only Reason Why I'm Not Quitting Is Because Is Free To Play, And I Didn't Have To Pay 70-150 Bucks.
Quit 2 months ago. Since then, BEAT Malenia with no magic and no summons (and all of ER), beat Sekiro, and beat a series called Trails of Cold Steel. Quitting that dogshit dying game allowed me to dig into my back catalog and start enjoying gaming again!
@@UnknownPlaysVT it was only fun because it was new, not because it was good just like ow2 on release lmfao ow1 lasted years for a reason @ow2 defenders
The fact people need to counter swap in quickplay and arcade is so sad. But if you don’t do it, you’ll be miserable the rest of the game. Actually, scratch that, you’ll be miserable no matter what you do.
12:25 Because it gets clicks. The vast majority of players who play ow2 are a silent bunch of casuals who don't care about the meta or whether or not ball gets counter picked into oblivion. So you can't just take the vocal part of overwatch's online/media community and act like it represents all groups of players.
just because it get clicks it doesnt mean its getting popular with that logic i can say ow2 lanuch was huge because it got clicks even if most people were review bombing the game but i see your point. but im not taking a vocal part of ow if the community fells the same way do then it shows that most dont acc enjoy ow especially tank players
@@UnknownPlaysVT It is just a better game than all the other games out there still. Plays smoother, better control, still buggy here and there sure, but what game isn't? CS 2 and val are both great for people that can't handle, or jsut don't want to deal with aiming vertically, but it is so much more fun to be able to have the freedom to go anywhere on the map and do anything depending on who you pick. Yeh it needs improvement, maybe reverting back to 6v6 will make it a better experience for everyone, I am not against that at all. In the end, even if that did happen, there will still be a ton of people complaining and making videos about how they need to change this or that, all of these people will only have the PoV of their own experience with the game, so pretty much 99% of them will be partially or fully incorrect.
@@UnknownPlaysVT I would not know, I only have experience playing the older rainbow six games. The new one looks smooth, with some cool mechanics, but it does look very one shot one kill heavy, and once again, minimal verticality aside from stairwells and rooftops. I love the feeling of sniping an echo or pharah out of the air, or just dive bombing an unsuspecting hanzo with pharah. In the end, I don't have the experience to comment about R6s greatness.
@@vodkastudios4170 well even seige has issue sbut what i like the most is the fact every character feels useful in some way and if theirs a op character he just gets banned but other then that i dont feel forced to paly any cahracter but ow2 i do feel forced to play specific heros thats what i dislike its fine if someone counter picks for me but basically shutting off a category of tanks is not fun
OW2 is a trash game....I used to play OW every single day since it released back in 2016 but one month into transitioning into OW2 I lost interest and play it like twice a month at most now when I feel like playing a casual shooter. OW2 isn't even a competitive game anymore, it's a joke of a competitive shooter with completely unbalanced roles due to us going from 6v6 to 5v5.... Basically in OW2 you just keep harassing the tank or supports, if either tanks or a single support dies then they lose the hold. Not having that extra tank makes it super simple and easy to make the other team snowball if they have a lower team count.
honestly if the balancing team could get their head out of the sunshine side we wouldn't be here. it doesnt feel competitive just feels like a mid shooter
tell me exactly how ovewatch 1 was a competitve game ?? Everyone had clutch abilities, mindlessly spamming and shield everywhere, at the end no one played dps anymore it was just 3 tanks 3 supports wow so much fun
@@jarate5922 so we forgetting all those years no one played goats?? only reason overwatch became less competitive was becuase blizzard cant balance and now year slater in 5v5 it hasn't changed
As a genji main with 400 hours i sort of feel the pain but moreso to sym I've seen so many moiras my aim has become like glue to her head i can predict their movements and all like fkin spider-sense just because i was tired of getting sucked off for having fun
@@johnsonspark171 I know but that's the thing I just reaaaaaally don't ever feel like it I just wanna have fun playing the character I like if I wanted to play Pokemon with all this swapping sh- i would have!
I used to play OW1 religiously, but since 2 came out, only thing I really play these days is Custom Games. My time doesn't feel valued and the balance is ridiculous that it ain't that fun to play. I can't even enjoy PvE; which was the whole point of the 2, because what we got is absolute trash. The game is being carried by cash whales who buy all the cosmetics, that's the only thing Blizzard really care about.
"People with "ow" in their name will fight for overwatch as if their name depends on it" Yeah, almost as bad as the people who have no interest in playing the game, don't care for it at all, but won't stop talking about how bad the game is, how much it's "dead", with a daily concurrent playerbase between 20 and 30k players but hey, you're still typing something too. 🙂
@@SSZero i have no interest because the game is bad thats the correlation i was masters 1 on dps and tank while washed up just because of how awful blizzard is at balancing i will hate the game because i love the game i want it to do well
ive been play ow since ow1 beta, originally i was a gears fan, i switched to ow and though the highest i ever got was low diamond i still enjoyed the game (mind you i was on xbox) it wasnt until i switched over to PC to grind up to one day fight against Flats that i saw a huge issue on my skill going from 2 tanks to 1 and dropped to silver. I can say as a tank player that cant aim at all having a second tank would as i have had to learn to play every tank which sucks because I'm a Rein main when i play him i admin the lobby but when i get counter picked by everyone i have to mid max countering their tank and their team. For one person to do that sucks like kinda a lot and i mean a lot. if their tank is running the server i have to counter pick them and when i get counter pick my team doesn't counter them to help me. Having another tank would help this less CC less focus less big tank shoot them and you win and as a DPS or Support you know you can play angels and be in the back line. If they were frontlining instead of me i would be flamed for it and yes there is dive but not everyone is on the same page everyone wants to play what they want and I have no problem with that but if you're going in trying to win comp and climb games then you're going to loose simply by not having to help your tank and yes your tank can be dumb and just walk into fire and stand there wondering why they arent getting healed when a smart tank plays angels plays cover, and doesn't run into fire because they saw the pretty colors. 5v5 is good for it;s own reasons but unless and until the people who play DPS and play Support have to manage everyone else on their team like a kindergarten school teacher where all the kids are doing their own thing and you're yelling at timmy to not eat dirt and suzie has to use the bathroom and somehow your marriage is falling apart and have a kid of your own on the way. They will always say blame tank nuke tank or whatever until they have to be the one frontlining and making the hard choices while also having to know where your whole team is at all times and having every single CD and CC dumped into you and you explode like a pinata and you're full of candy you'll never understand what it means to be a tank player in OW2 because it's just you theres no second like DPS to help cross fire or support that you can lean on to help heal someone while youre being dived its just you it is only just you and until we get either 4v4 or 6v6 back reworks wont fix things and when every tank has to be OP to just survive it gets real old real fast. Still play it a lot though when im not busy making UA-cam content and working full time but with 3 new hero shooters on the way im looking forward to what comes from this breed of competition
real tanking especially on rein just feels awful but hey you never know you might be a top500 marvel ruin player lol you should definitely try that game out when it releases
@@UnknownPlaysVT lol maybe a colab one day in the future, your ball is impressive and man do I hate having to fight a good ball as big since I can’t land a hook to save my life haha 🤣
I’ve been playing since OW1 and the toxic has gotten way worse in OW2. Free to play has all sorts of folks coming in and it is made worse by blizzard putting heavy bans on those who want to leave groups and avoid the toxic.
I dont play nuch tank but i totally respect my tank mains whether they win or lose. You guys have so much pressure to perform, and it really sucks. Endorse your tanks people, they really do deserve it
This video needs to be spread more. I've gotten attached to overwatchs characters and the unique playstyles of said characters so I don't think I can tear myself from overwatch yet, but this video really pointed out the flaws with this game. Hope this gets more attention.
I have 1k+ hours on the game stopped playing in 2020 because i got perma went from platinum to top 500 as a genji main let me tell you, the game was real trash past 2018, only cancer comps from start to finish, you never got outskilled but instead died all the time to bs abilities Then i tried overwatch 2 and it was so much more fun, way more dynamic, dps players having a lot of impact, and i even played tank and it was cool The new maps are really nice, the passives are good, overall it was a great experience (i played season 1 and 2 and then didnt play for 1 year straight) Came back in january, game was good but not much different from other seasons (except mauga was broken of course), made it to masters and then didnt play for 6 months I thought the HP changes and hitboxes would kill the game, but on the contrary i was pleasantly surprised the game got way more enjoyable The truth is Overwatch has never felt this good since late 2017 tanks are balanced and are fun to play, same for supports, same for dps. The rank rework is very good, reminds me of starcraft 2. And now we can play every hero in ranked without grinding for several days. The only bad thing remaining is the skins locked behind a paywall (lost all my skins when i got perma so now i only have deffault ones), but other than that the game is in a great state
The 2 things i hate about ow the most about balance is that they use winrates to buff/nerf heroes and they try to make all heroes viable when it should be that all the well designed heroes should be meta
Great video my dude! You just got a new subscriber :) I have been feeling the same thing for months now, and I hate it. I want to love Overwatch but Blizzard just makes it so hard. One thing I really hate with Overwatch is how every hero (except Venture and to some extent Ram) and hero rework just lowers the skill floor overall. Mauga is the most brain dead hero to ever have been released. Horse after the rework just a hero that plays herself without any brain use from the player. Sombra after the rework is the dream hero from someone who just went through a lobotomy or the kiri mains who miss the 6 second tp. And Kiri has to be the worst offender of them all. Kiriko is a master of all trades, jack of none and Blizzard won't nerf or rework her, even if she needs it. The pharah rework was eh, fine. But it made her so much easier. The hog rework is the same thing. What I am trying to say with this rant is that Overwatch is trying to make their heroes as easy to play as possible so kids can flock in from Fortnite, think they are good and buy a ton of skins and battle @sses, before SBMM screws them over and they'll leave just as quick as they came. And the character that does not sell as many skins, does not get any buffs or anything. AKA Reaper who is in desperate need of a buff or light rework but blizzard just ignores him, or any of the tank heroes whose role got destroyed. I recently stopped playing OW and picked up the OG Resident Evil games and I'm having the time of my life. It feels weird to not be frustrated in a video game, which is a weird, but true, thing to say.
oh same dude i finished re4 remastered loved it. i think ow2 now is just an early access game at this point dk whats happening anymore and im bored as hell of it
I would have fun in chat but I would avoid personally attacking anyone, maybe I'd give an honest criticism like usually a long the lines of "you're doing just as bad as the person you're complaining about" or "this is only QP why are you acting like this" Got a negative comment warning, okay. So then on I was aggressively polite, every game telling people gg, it's nice to meet them, it was fun playing with them, not criticizing anyone for any reason A week later got ANOTHER message warning me about how I was speaking in chat. It's obvious it's auto done by bots and now I do not speak at all in the text chat or voice chat, I do not say a single word. Has made the game significantly less fun
i keep randomly seeing rants from these top players and i click on it and yet somehow theyre still just as angry as 2-3 years ago!!! yall said yall would quit yearsss ago why in gods name are yall still their ranting about nothing and pretending yall will quit 100X a year??
So I've been playing OW for years now. For me, it's starting to mimic the state of real life. For instance: The more time I spend online, the more awful real life seems... everything from dating, politics, the economy, competence of leadership, on and on... but the more I actually just stay offline and go live my life? The better things seem to be. The less chronically online I am, the less sense people's complaints make. Same goes for OW. With content creators and reddit, etc... the more time you spend in those areas, the more you realize "misery loves company". The less time you spend watching people talk about the game (no offense, I liked your video), the more enjoyable the game seems to be. At least, that is my take away. Anyone else?
i agree this is valid this is why i stay away from ow and acc go do things that matter more i just rather make videos on how i feel baout the game but i also do other things my life isnt overwatch but im still gonna hate on dumb decisions you have good thinking
Yea it's crazy that loot box's were better than the new system, but it is free, so i Is a double-edged sword AAAA doesn't reward time it rewards money. The sad truth
I'm having more fun than I had through most of Overwatch 1, but it was partly about mentality then, as it's partly about mentality now. Yeah let's keep hounding them to make it better, but it's already fun. Althoufh, they ought to drop the 2.
man, OW2 as a standalone is not awful, fuck, I main tank and I still think it's not bad, but when you realize this game replaced OW1.. literally the best shooter in the market from 2016 to like late 2018...... and you have memories of playing that much superior version.. it just feels like the worst game ever
tanking is genuinely just miserable to play I haven’t had fun in tank unless me and the enemy tank go doomfist I’m not looking at it from a ow1 nostalgia just tanking rn is extremely frustrating and miserable
@@UnknownPlaysVT TO BE FAIR, I'm still stuck in dogshit ranks so I'm sure it's a lot more annoying in high ranks where people actually know team comps, in my ranks I can still run orisa and average 13k dmg because nobody knows how to play (myself included)
@deeeeniiiiss yeah higher ranks it’s gets annoying like most games witha competitive mode but ow for me doesn’t feel competitive just feels like booty cheeks on tank role dps and support is fun though
I only started playing Overwatch 2. I think the game is fun, its well made and there is not a game like it. Complaining about skins is a weird thing, comparing it to Overwatch which was a full priced 60$ at launch to this, which is free to play is not super fair. To say its a bad game because it did not expand on the original is unfair, should it have expanded on the original, sure you can argue that. But there was never a promise for complete innovation, for what the game is, its not bad. But for what players wanted the game to be it is.
They abandoned the game for years and promised A whole campaign pve mode and updates to competitive. they cancelled pve and ow2 and ow what is the big diffrence nothing jsut one less rank in a match pretty good reasons to hate a game that was good
I think taking a break can help because this game should be for fun not to be taken so serious… it’s rewarding in the sense that it’s meant to be entertaining just like every other game no?
thats the thing i thought the same so i grinded seige and even coming back after 2 seasons the game still has if not more issues then before i dont think ow2 is fun
Mained doom in ow1, stuck with him in overwatch 2. Pretty miserable ngl, you have the odd fun game but the experience usually boils down to "oh they have a doom, alr then" *Switches to orisa sombra cass ana bap (Most of the supports work as a counter tbh bc supports are busted asf now)* Idk man, at this point i want overwatch 1 back as a seperate thing, idgaf if they don't update it, ow2 is ass.
El juego es malo pprque no tiene un a estrategia en cada partida que sea consistente todo el tiempo. Poder pickear cada que mueres algo nuevo no tiene sentido y nerfear a tanques al punto que no puedan ni pushear pq muere en 3 segundos (como máximo) es increíble. Simplemente un juego con poca estrategia y pocos personajea viables para un juego así.
I think this game attracts bad gamers. Theirs a reason Moira is so popular, she has to be the most hand holding character of all video games. Also people have BAD input like ALL blaming anyone but themselves.
did you not even get past that part of the video i literally talked about it once then never again lmao plus i think its important because i dont feel rewarded as a player
saying all this while playing ball is stupid. the game is in a good state for 5v5 but thats for 5v5. So one tank still gets shit on but thats 5v5. cant do anything about it. unless they add 6v6. Ball is the only tank i seen where even with the whole team picking counter he still survives. Sounds op to me. Every other tank has counter which is good because they aint hard counters. Besides roadhog vs dva, and reaper vs monkey or ana vs roadhog (counter able). Balancing is when I still have a chance of winning even when they have counters. By counters I mean one on one counters or one on two, not 4 counters and I can still win, that's OP. But I agree ranking mode is still ass, but that's the mode itself. The Balancing is way better then before, they just need to open their eyes to the hard counters. Btw every tank needs skill, if u just go into the other team without plan u will die. Meaning if u survived U have skill. So no such thing as low skill high reward. that's been overturned by the counters. Making it high skill, risk, and high reward.
my issue with ball is that if i go any type of dive and do exceedingly well i lierally cant play any other dive tank so i have to default into the meta tanks to win idc if i have to switch thats why i like overwatch but being forced to switch isnt fun
I feel like you never played OW1. Ball was unplayable then as well. Sombra on the enemy team, can’t ball, mei of the enemy team, can’t ball. Choose ball anyway? You are throwing because double barrier meta. You can claim the game is dead all you want and cry about stupid shit because of your rose tinted glasses but player numbers don’t lie.
if were talking about number yo uwanna mention how every match there is less deaths nad kills ow2 isunironically slower paced then ow1 and even then theres rarely a fair game you wither steam roll or oyu get steam rolled and i did play ow1 i wasnt a ball main
@@UnknownPlaysVT Are you serious? Games no longer stretch on for far longer than necessary since point stalling is much more difficult to do. Shorter matches = Less deaths. That’s assuming what you say is true, I just tried to look it up and I see no information on this at all.
@@UnknownPlaysVT That would make sense, longer matches = more kills. More kills does not mean the game had a better flow to it. That’s a deceptive stat
@@UnknownPlaysVT Also, are those stats for all ranks? Is it for top 500? Also when did those kills occur? Was it evenly throughout the game or was it at end game point stall?
@@ArtoriasStormcock no i get you sometimes i just kinda give up when i ask for kiriko and i end up with a dps moira i cannot solo que ow because it feels like a gamble idk wth im gonna get
@@UnknownPlaysVT ofc it doesn’t apply to me, I’ve been afk since ow2 came out, and even if I started playing recently but I never supported the 5v5 format, and ffs I never supported the balance team, neither Jeff’s nor the balance team now, they fucking suck, each balance decision they made seems to me is a bronze player whining about things they don’t understand, or a bronze player who wants his/her own main to be overpowered. It is your video, and I was simply suggesting, not all ow2 players support the shit blizzard made.
Worst sequel to exist. * PvE canned. * Boring seasons with useless time-limited modes. * Terrible matchmaking. * Arcade sucks. * Bad progression & rewards. * Constant switching. * Too much reliance of FOMO. * S9 is the worst season. * Devs are too slow to communicate or no communication.
*PvE was always going to be dogshit. OW PvE has never been good *the season have always been boring with useless time-limited modes *this is true *Arcade has always sucked and shouldn't be in the game *Progression and rewards are meaningless *the game was built around switching heroes, it's a stupid mechanic, but Blizzard is a stupid dev *It's a live service game, that's how this works *S9 had the most players ever, so hard to argue with the results *the devs don't owe you communication
As the wise Freelo (your overwatch) once said... "You're a flat Earther if you don't like the 5v5". It's people like him that are truly killing the game.
@@UnknownPlaysVT dude I never watched him, but I remember seeing some of his videos recommended years ago in ow1, and thought he seemed like a cool normal guy, but wtf happened LMAO THAT 6V6 IS FLAT EARTH THUMBNAIL GENUINELY MADE MY JAW DROP
OK, I'm gonna lay it on you. IF, and big if cuz it's NEVER HAPPENING, they switch back to 6v6, and they actually fix the matchmaker, what happens to queue times in ranked? I'll tell you. It won't be pretty. We'll be right back to 15 minute DPS queue times in Diamond and above. Some people just don't get that players don't want to play that dogshit tank role. What they should consider instead is switching back to 6v6 and getting rid of the tank role and role lock altogether
My issue with the ball argument is that ball is very oppressive when you DON'T counter pick him. Teams can't aim at him, they can't protect their backline, and they can't kill him before he grabs a health pack. Fighting a ball without a Sombra to shut him down feels you're throwing the match in this meta
Tbf, he kind of did hit on that by saying tanks are either OP or hard countered, and because ball is OP he has to be hard countered. I definitely agree and it's a blatant 5v5 problem
@@SunderMun Tanks are just one dimensional. It's basically just a macro / hero swap role, because most tanks are very shallow and don't allow for almost any skill expression. Ball is basically the one exception here. It's a basic design flaw for the role, that the characters only exist to not let other people play the game, without being able to do anything skilled themselves.
@@RemedieX mostly if you know how to play him, but you can't play him without knowing how to, or else you're throwing, but as time goes on more and more people know how to play him so Now a lot of people know how to play him
Ill never understand the hate for lootboxes. Even when we were in overwatch, i loved loot boxes! I had every skin in the game because of lootboxes. Sure its random, but the randomness adds to the fun of it and you can have always get a lot of coins to buy the cosmetics you want anyways. So why the lootbox hate?
I wonder how many of those people only played OW at the beginning. The original implementation of loot boxes was not NEARLY as generous as it became later. Later, I had so many coins and almost everything in the game, but that took them tweaking how loot boxes worked.
The problem is that the randomness is meant to prey on gambling addicts, which is if I recall is classified as an addiction similar to substance abuse. It does not affect everyone, but it does prey on quote on quote "whales" (a nice, marketable, and corperate term for addicts) for issues in their brain not under their control. Lootboxes are illegal in certain countries for a reason, which is probably the only reason they changed it along with being out of fashion to gamers
Pretty sure mauga day one was...ass in terms of viability...then they buffed him and he became the bane of everyone's existance...and then they nerfed him into being ass. Mauga is such a poorly designed tank hes just bastion but a tank. Just stand there, burn down tank, charge in and kill everything else. Just stand there and shoot without much else, maybe backing up a bit if your low but man I remember seeing all yhe roll outs mauga could do and being excited but....hes just...awful, hes boring to play and play against. At least orisa felt good for the orisa because you had these cycles with your abilities and you could end up feeling unstoppable but mauga is just "Standing still...shooting tank....they swap to ana....you suffer....stand still....get naded....back out....shoot tank.... Standing still...shooting tank....they swap sigma....get all your shots absorbed....get rocked...back out...get out poked" even mauga is screwed by the counterplay.
I started playing ow2 after feeling some burnout from rust and can’t agree more with your points! The game is so stale and that is upsetting as someone who bought the original games origins edition 😭
@@UnknownPlaysVT FOR REAL DUDE I CAME BACK IN 2022 AND WAS HAVING THE TIME OF MY LIFE (dec 2021 - oct 2022) if they just left it I'd be playing the game more oh that reminds me I have to finish the battlepass because it's about to end and I'M NOT EVEN LEVEL 70 lmfao it's crazy how uninterested I am in the current state of the game
They literally made the competitive mode so that you can play with players in ANY rank, so a grandmaster can que with a silver and be in the same lobby….. WHATS THE POINT OF HAVING A RANK THEN!???
@@livedcoffee1719 I agree, we knew wide matches would take awhile to find. The developers even mentioned that was one of the reasons they held off so long on implementing it. Its to be expected if you want a fair game. In the end your not much worse off than the previous system. In the worse case you won't find a game to play together, which is not much different from not playing together before. But in the best case you are able to find a game to play together and can enjoy some time with friends that was not possible before. So I think the wide matching is a W. You can't have your cake and eat it too.
I don't agree with it either. I think creating wide/narrow matches just creates longer queue times by splitting it into narrow and wide groups. Let's not forget this was real main reason 5v5 became a thing in the first place. BUT with that being said I think the main reason is to give casuals gold/jade weapons while being able to play with their friends like how they would normally in QP. So the point of having competitive IN THEORY is to allow casuals get rewards that they wouldn't normally have and/or care to grind for, while allowing the narrow groups/solo queuers to grind normally and (again in theory) have a more fair even game.
@@livedcoffee1719 im masters 5 and my freind is diamond 4 we cant queue together because of wide matchmaking even though im only 4 ranks above her longest que we had was 2+ hours and it was a diamond lobby how is hat not an L im being punished for high placements
The game overall is quite good, its simply that players are being faced with bad experiences from "Streamers" and other aspects they seem to nit pick. I personally enjoy the game for a few rounds but could not completely main the game like some people. The game has a bit more content since the update into Overwatch 2 and I dont see any conflict with the game as a whole. For Streamer wise, the only cool people who you will get respect from are limited in numbers.
I redownloaded it for nostalgia's sake. I realized that the first few games I was esentially curbstomping everyone because I've played basically since the beta, but after a while it wasn't fun anymore, I miss when matches were close to each other and when the Eliminations didn't go into double digits that often. Now you can just tell which team is going to win if you look if their tank has more kills than the other tank or which one died less than the other. Instead of Overwatch it's just "Tank vs. Tank" and other dps who can get around the tank or supports which can stun the tank, it's all about tank. And if the tank player isn't doing that well it's their fault that they lose the game because the developer team decided for the tank to be the main pivotal point of the game. Sure the main framework that was in Overwatch 1 is still there now, unique heroes, unique abilities and interesting game design, but it's been wrecked so much by the balancing and marketing teams that the game is so much worse overall. No more lootboxes, no more natural progression, instead you get a battle pass, no more interesting combos like Rein+Zarya or Ball+Winston, only one tank and the dps get to play a single player game and come back once in a while to get healed. No more Grav Surge + Shatter combos, sorry the dev team decided that was bad. Anyways here's Sojourn, Mauga, Kirko and Rammatra being absolute menaces. And I know, the old Overwatch wasn't perfect but it was fun to play and you could just chill a bit on tank, unlike now you have to be stressed and high out of your mind to play well and not commit any mistakes because if not you lose point or match. You could just sit back enjoy a few matches of quick play and get some lootboxes by the end of the evening it was fun, rewarding and people kept coming back. I'm pretty sure that if they kept up with updates or new content that old overwatch could've been on the level of League Of Legends kind of popularity or at the very least not die to Valorant.
The fix for ow2, 6v6 and good balancing. What are we getting now? Nerf every single hero over and over until some magic happens. Have I ever told you the definition of insanity?
So the healers keep the tank alive, they can’t keep the tank alive if the healers die. If only you played a disruptive tank that could get to the back line 🤔
Note, this is a long comment, that get's a little sarcastic at the end. No hate to the creator or anyone that agrees. I DO hate your guys stance on the game though, and disagree with a lot of parts. - Overwatch 1 had a bad monetization plan. I get that it sucks not being able to just grind for the the in game cosmetics, but part of the reason OW1 shut down is because it wasn't sustainable. - For every Mauga, Kiriko, and Illiari there's a Lifeweaver, Ramatra, and Venture (Making a tolerable meta is more profitable than getting people to buy the battle pass because a hero is so strong. I doubt the devs made those characters that strong on purpose.) -You get 900 coins a season pretty sure on the free track of the the BP. This amount used to be spread out through weekly challenges, so you missed out on a lot of coins if you didn't play a lot. Also don't forget the separate currency you get in order to buy every other cosmetic, including previous skins that used to be money only. Sure you have to wait longer, but all this to say you can't say it's not getting better when they made it more consistent to get all your coins, and you can still grind for every skin that isn't bran spanking new. Blizzard needs to make money somehow - They changed the ranked system so people wouldn't get immediately discouraged by seeing their points go down in real time. The execution wasn't a cure all, & it didn't give the intended results, but it's not like they did it for novelty sake. There's no right way to go about it really. The whiners will always whine whether they see their rank go down after 1 match or 5 - Giving people more information of why not every win is equal is, in fact, not more confusing. Having more information is actually less confusing. - The enemy swapping 5 heros to counter 1 isn't a reflection of how strong the hero is, rather the lack of incentive to not switch isn't as prominent as it was in OW1. - You could switch Orisa into Hog, because what's the point in making your life harder, but then what's the point of anything? This isn't to say there isn't a tank problem, but the tank problem is merely exasperated by 5 v 5, 6 v 6 still had these problems - Aisian Serves are filled with people who play Dive n shit at the very top of the leaderboard. No ones telling you to play the safe option. You put the meaning into winning, and if all you wanna get out of winning is seeing your rank go up, play the safe character. However, I like feeling better than my opponent, so I'll play something more difficult if it means 1. i'm playing the character I wanna play, and 2. I can still win. Which you can do as mentioned by you - If you're winning the game by ignoring the hog and going for the squishies that just sounds like strategy more than a problem. You shouldn't play into every matchup the same, and that's fine; Otherwise you're just playing a glorified single player game where you do one thing over and over with no variety. Don't get me wrong, Hog is in a funny place, but you shouldn't fight hog the same way you fight a Zarya - Again, it's still a balance issue, because 4 tanks counter picking each other isn't somehow better than 2. As well as, you're relying on your teammate to pick up that slack and pick a tank that compliments you. If you don't get that, then you're liable to be punished to the same extent you are now. -Because it's in every creators best interest to be as polarizing as possible. The algorithm likes you, I like it, it's why i clicked on this video. It's got a polarizing title. It's also much easier to sow discourse and to doom n gloom, rather than getting competitive shooting game players to admit there's hope for their game. These two things together combined to create a self realizing path to hating the game no matter what, until you get exactly what you want, only to see it wasn't what was needed.
you're delusional, if you don't like the game please leave it. Constructive criticism is good but relentless negativity while the game is in a golden era is not needed. Take it elsewhere please
Great video, u nailed, thats excatly how I feel playin ball, and also all dive characters became more easily punished, and everyone know dive is by far the funniest style in this game
The thing is though.... while I understand your argument, and CAN agree with some of your claims, your outlook is wrong. I feel like your view on the skins being almost unavailable to f2p users doesn't make sense. Fortnite does the same thing. Yet they don't get complaints from people. And overwatch 2 is getting better. The original ceo was greedy, but now they can focus on improving the game because he's not there anymore. Many people are also having fun. Some people don't care about the meta at all, and still play the game. Also, the og overwatch was in a "similar" state, yet people kept playing. All because they believed in the development team and overwatch 2. Your point is valid, but you haven't considered other things in the situation.
i was a lil harsh on f2p because they do need to make their money but i still stand by my points i did make a video replying to comments and i go more in depth about it
bro literally banned multiple times for each of them one month. I do not understand why trollers, uncooperative players, mentally unstable players and swearing people do whatever they want while I am the one who gets ban lmao. I told them what is happened actually they dont listen nor remove ban ironicaly because of that i cant get rank up and cant have fun at all lol it is quite dead game sad i wasnt be able to play back in right time
@@UnknownPlaysVT stop defending your viewers just because they're viewers who support you he is making things up. I'm not arguing over this. ow team has been on top of banning these past 2 weeks. every report I have made has done something. this guy is just mad he got banned.
@@lunarro7 its not an argument its a conversation and i just disagree ive heard sexism racism in ow and they never got banned but i also agree with you they are suspending a lot more players for voice comms but at the cost of not even being able to swear dont you think its weird when blizzard banned swearing in ow that more bans started to happen?
A decent chunk of these points aren't actually that massive of a problem and are just opinions. - Monetization doesn't actually effect you unless you want a skin, is still pretty easy with the credits currency IMO - Nitpicking at past updates and comparing them to now doesn't actually mean anything - games will change over time regardless of what people want - Players opinions on how they view the game is subjective - Complaining about how comp works (better in my opinion) - etc, etc. The only thing I could agree with is the tankiness of certain characters, and the balancing of playstyles - to a certain extent. It is a of course a well made video and keep up the grind, but I think if you're going to make a video being all fussy about the game, don't pick the topics that don't actually hold that much weight.
I miss 6v6 because there wasn't as much pressure as a DPS, besides maybe making a play and covering for a dead tank. Now I have to watch flank for sombra, do damage to the tank, somehow pull off a flank to elim their pocket mercy who's flying like an eagle, and take care of my supports at the same time. Having that extra tank gave dps some breathing room to make plays. Played Zarya in solo quick matches and I had the least amount of fun in a while.
I still play the game almost every day and I still enjoy it heck out of it. But I agree with almost everything you've said. Overwatch 2 is still a good game but it's nowhere near as good as Overwatch 1 was in it's heyday. I miss having a second tank to play around (especially as Rein, they done killed my boy) and the game just feels like it's had a load of what made it exciting sucked out of it. Hopefully the devs listen one day and make big enough changes to address this, but for now I'm happy to have it for entertainments sake.
Bro how delusional are these people overwatch2 barely listens to the community and instead of making good changes they rather nerf genji hanzo and reaper even doomfist caught a nerf right after he got buffed the game is terrible rn
Great video The answaer is very simple 6v6 Samito deservs love for standing up to his believs and so do u Also Freedo is a very rude guy, and him calling samito a friend is just:(
I see 2 positive points. The owcs and the fact the game has indeed slightly improved and seems to be in that direction. I quote "that was some improvement, but it's not hard to improve on garbage"
agree with most of his points, but bro is complaining on other tanks are broken when he plays ball that has a ability that gives him 600hp. kinda weird when he says "problem is tanks with stupid abilities" when ball is the same. and the point of counter picking is just crying. its a part of the game and it was the same in ow1
counterpicking in ow1 was easy to play around but in ow2 since its on less tank it feels even worse especially if your playing payload attack the tank that's on defence has a massive advantage of just checking what hero you switch so he can instantly switch to a counter it was not this bad in ow1
ty ty i just htink the game is unfun for both teams having to hard counter one character is not fun having to switch off because your being hard countered isnt fun this game is not fun
@@UnknownPlaysVT YOU said every game with a Moira was an instant loss. You want to take your anecdotal experience like it’s fact ignoring those that have obviously won enough playing against what you claim are the “best” insta win picks. You give off major “you didn’t play what I told you to play so now I throw” vibes.
@@Catbeans99 you know what exaggerating is if you want a clarification no moira doesnt mean the game is lsoy but would i rathe have any other support then moira yes
@@UnknownPlaysVT Tbh it's kinda sad for overwatch to be this bad because I fell in love with their lore and characters but sadly that ended when overwatch 2 got released
@@Purpylek i feel you, cancelling the pve really ruined it for me ow was my favourite game of all time at one point but sadly blizzard greed got to it :(
@@UnknownPlaysVT Yeah the only thing now that's good from overwatch 2 is it's Corn, and there's a lot of it but I would 1000% trade all the corn for overwatch 1
Waited 11 minutes for a comp game before giving up on it today. Honestly as someone who paid for this game originally I am surprised that I haven't been compensated for it. This game is more of a chore than my actual job, it is not fun anymore. Thanks for this video btw!
hay remember when overwatch was a game you could pick any hero to win welp nope if your not playing the 1% metas or else also battle passes made no sense and will stop now that theres nothing worth buying em so that should be a wake up call and reworks are the worst they screwed the pooch on just about everyone of them but will never do it to kiriko or sojourn get some equality dont just kill off original heros well i mean they already did a ton of times
I have fun with the game, although i definitely dont like the new heros, specifically kiriko and mauga Ramattra, JQ, illari, venture are fine imo, i dont really find illari that annoying, although i definitely am noticing the mobility creep, alot of heros now have way more mobility Ive been playing alot of ball, and the cc is really annoying to deal with, especially if the other team has zenyatta, the other team will just hard focus you and your hp will go away instantly So it makes it harder to fully engage into the other team, so you end up having to play smarter in a way.. But at least hunting down sombra as ball isnt as difficult as it used to be, before sombra could just place a translocator far away and instantly go away The ball rework isnt really a rework.. Its more just additions to Ball's kit Also they did make venture unlocked for everyone right away, so the game is argueably getting better in some degrees Yes the launch of the game was bad, but you can play the game now and i have no problems launching the game on pc
noob friendly? makes me think you haven't played it, or barely played it. There are many valid complaints about this game but being noob friendly isn't one of them. Other shooters are just about learning to aim, OW has many other things to track and know about, for example to go anywhere in the rank system you have to have a strong understanding of now 36 different heroes all with 5+ different abilities plus passives and multiple map modes.
@@pizzazzsnudge7800 illari can dps and heal her team at once kiriko has suzu which negates everything mauga get health from shooting tank it is very noob friendly skill gap is close to non existence
@@UnknownPlaysVT Giving examples of hero abilities isn’t an argument of why the game is noob friendly. Ilari or Kiriko are not even considered as one of the easier support heroes in the game. You just sound like a dps player who got mad and quit cause you got out played by a support.
@@pizzazzsnudge7800 im a tank main lmao but i play all roles and illari is literally braindead easy you press a button and heal your whole team without thinking about it how is that not noob friendly so your telling me mauga takes the same amount of skill as doomfist? and since we talking about dps the fact a kiriko use to two tap squishes and get a free tp is insane
If that's the problem with some of these content creators especially they will always have something to say to folks like this guy. I don't care what anybody thinks the game is dead to me and it's only dying in general. They have to be positive about the game cuz that's how they make their money bassoon when the viewership and they will know
I had a game on support where I ended up swapping to bap off ana to try to get more dmg and in the last fight that lasted around 50 seconds i had no time to do anything but hold rightclick on my tank and i even had to window for the healing and we ended up full holding and winning but damn that didnt feel good at all. this was a high masters lobby by the way like the game should not be this dump dmg and healing on to each teams tank because holy crap is it ever boring for all parties involved
Tanks just suck right now and support and dps are super strong so now the most team based role can’t have a team back them up when everyone plays for themselves they need to rework the tank role to have more solo potential
If we're being completely honest, overwatch 2 has improved a lot from launch to now, coins are easier to get, the UI is better (slightly) and some other stuff Now, is this better than overwatch 1? LOOOOOOL Not even close, i bet overwatch 2 would be a dead game if ow1 was available, idk how people got gaslighted by streamers back in the ow2 beta because i played it and was immediately bored out of my mind, i was like "there's no way this game revives overwatch" and thats exactly what happened 5v5 is flawed, the game is too simple and frankly not interesting, and I've almost never felt like matches are close or tight, the matches where winning or losing is a close call are far between, and its usually "oh we'll win this is easy" or "welp i don't have a team gg go next" Really hoping for an overwatch classic at some point, overwatch was literally my favorite multiplayer game that i played basically all day every day for the entirety of its lifespan, with the exception of goats Ow2 is just... Eh, its ok i guess? The only other hero shooter out there is paladins and i dont enjoy the cards and lack of polish so... Yeah Can definitely see why new players enjoy ow2, but seriously this game is bad compared to what we had before
but it did only get better when they started adding things from ow1 lmao but fr its not as bad as the satrt of season 9 but it aint a hell lot of better rn
Imma get clowned for this but i just play paladins. Skins are cheaper, give you more, new heroes can be earned pretty easily without premium currency, item shop gives more varied gameplay, card system does the same. Havent looked back. If youre sick of OW then try paladins. The streamers are professional gaslighters.
i remember when they had OWL players test OW2 and they said 5v5 was a bad idea and the devs didn't listen
Yeah people forget things like that conveniently
I've been hearing OW players say the game is getting better for the longest time now, and it never gets better lmao. Like holy shit just admit the game is shit and not getting better.
Yeah, so you don’t play it and you don’t know…
Anyone who plays tank realizes how shit this game has gotten
As an ex winston rein main i can say i rank up faster on dps (got chat banned twice)
As A Still Roadhog Main, It Does Suck. You Can't Take Space, You Can't Make Space, You Can't Displace Or Really Dive Anymore Either Because You'll Be Popped Like A Balloon With All The Damage You're Taking, The Enemy Tank Is Playing Mauga/Orisa, Or You Get Anti Naded, And THEN Popped. The Competitive Side Of The Game Is Either Filled With Hackers Or Sweaty Twelve Year Old Who Have So Much Dopamine Stored In Their Brain, They Might Explode If They Stop Being So Fking Sweaty. I'm General: The Game Itself Is Indeed Very Sh**ty, Only Reason Why I'm Not Quitting Is Because Is Free To Play, And I Didn't Have To Pay 70-150 Bucks.
delete tank so that the rtded tank players stfu.
Yall are so trash. Git gud please. Tank is great right now
support too tbh.
"you can't please everyone"
this perfectly fits Overwatch as a whole
You can't please anyone*
@@diamonsdaf8346very true and based 😂😂😂
I feel like OW1 did a way better job of doing that though, before double shield was left as the meta for 2-3 years lol
Quit 2 months ago. Since then, BEAT Malenia with no magic and no summons (and all of ER), beat Sekiro, and beat a series called Trails of Cold Steel. Quitting that dogshit dying game allowed me to dig into my back catalog and start enjoying gaming again!
@@johnsonspark171 lmfao too real
Once they buffed the health of all characters it became so unfun
Yeah I didn’t like the health changes I did at first but idk wtf they did after
@@UnknownPlaysVT it was only fun because it was new, not because it was good
just like ow2 on release lmfao
ow1 lasted years for a reason @ow2 defenders
The fact people need to counter swap in quickplay and arcade is so sad. But if you don’t do it, you’ll be miserable the rest of the game. Actually, scratch that, you’ll be miserable no matter what you do.
12:25 Because it gets clicks. The vast majority of players who play ow2 are a silent bunch of casuals who don't care about the meta or whether or not ball gets counter picked into oblivion. So you can't just take the vocal part of overwatch's online/media community and act like it represents all groups of players.
just because it get clicks it doesnt mean its getting popular with that logic i can say ow2 lanuch was huge because it got clicks even if most people were review bombing the game but i see your point. but im not taking a vocal part of ow if the community fells the same way do then it shows that most dont acc enjoy ow especially tank players
@@UnknownPlaysVT It is just a better game than all the other games out there still. Plays smoother, better control, still buggy here and there sure, but what game isn't? CS 2 and val are both great for people that can't handle, or jsut don't want to deal with aiming vertically, but it is so much more fun to be able to have the freedom to go anywhere on the map and do anything depending on who you pick.
Yeh it needs improvement, maybe reverting back to 6v6 will make it a better experience for everyone, I am not against that at all. In the end, even if that did happen, there will still be a ton of people complaining and making videos about how they need to change this or that, all of these people will only have the PoV of their own experience with the game, so pretty much 99% of them will be partially or fully incorrect.
@@vodkastudios4170 I could make the same argument there are way better games the overwatch aswell like r6
@@UnknownPlaysVT I would not know, I only have experience playing the older rainbow six games. The new one looks smooth, with some cool mechanics, but it does look very one shot one kill heavy, and once again, minimal verticality aside from stairwells and rooftops. I love the feeling of sniping an echo or pharah out of the air, or just dive bombing an unsuspecting hanzo with pharah. In the end, I don't have the experience to comment about R6s greatness.
@@vodkastudios4170 well even seige has issue sbut what i like the most is the fact every character feels useful in some way and if theirs a op character he just gets banned but other then that i dont feel forced to paly any cahracter but ow2 i do feel forced to play specific heros thats what i dislike its fine if someone counter picks for me but basically shutting off a category of tanks is not fun
OW2 is a trash game....I used to play OW every single day since it released back in 2016 but one month into transitioning into OW2 I lost interest and play it like twice a month at most now when I feel like playing a casual shooter. OW2 isn't even a competitive game anymore, it's a joke of a competitive shooter with completely unbalanced roles due to us going from 6v6 to 5v5....
Basically in OW2 you just keep harassing the tank or supports, if either tanks or a single support dies then they lose the hold. Not having that extra tank makes it super simple and easy to make the other team snowball if they have a lower team count.
honestly if the balancing team could get their head out of the sunshine side we wouldn't be here. it doesnt feel competitive just feels like a mid shooter
tell me exactly how ovewatch 1 was a competitve game ?? Everyone had clutch abilities, mindlessly spamming and shield everywhere, at the end no one played dps anymore it was just 3 tanks 3 supports wow so much fun
@@jarate5922 so we forgetting all those years no one played goats?? only reason overwatch became less competitive was becuase blizzard cant balance and now year slater in 5v5 it hasn't changed
OW1 wasn’t a competitive shooter either.
@@Catbeans99 OWL?? Ranked? are you talking about the release when it didnt have ranked till they added it in?
Me trying to have fun playing Genji but there's a Moira on the enemy team (this is the 67th time)
The fact Genji is so good till u see a moira 😭
As a genji main with 400 hours i sort of feel the pain but moreso to sym I've seen so many moiras my aim has become like glue to her head i can predict their movements and all like fkin spider-sense just because i was tired of getting sucked off for having fun
@@Ghosted143 you're supposed to swap when you see your direct counters. That's how the game was designed. Blizzard is such a dogshit developer
@@johnsonspark171 I know but that's the thing I just reaaaaaally don't ever feel like it I just wanna have fun playing the character I like if I wanted to play Pokemon with all this swapping sh- i would have!
I used to play OW1 religiously, but since 2 came out, only thing I really play these days is Custom Games. My time doesn't feel valued and the balance is ridiculous that it ain't that fun to play. I can't even enjoy PvE; which was the whole point of the 2, because what we got is absolute trash.
The game is being carried by cash whales who buy all the cosmetics, that's the only thing Blizzard really care about.
People with "ow" in their name will fight for overwatch as if their name depends on it
fr lmaoooo
i fucking hate overwatch
"People with "ow" in their name will fight for overwatch as if their name depends on it"
Yeah, almost as bad as the people who have no interest in playing the game, don't care for it at all, but won't stop talking about how bad the game is, how much it's "dead", with a daily concurrent playerbase between 20 and 30k players but hey, you're still typing something too. 🙂
@@SSZero i have no interest because the game is bad thats the correlation i was masters 1 on dps and tank while washed up just because of how awful blizzard is at balancing i will hate the game because i love the game i want it to do well
YourOverwatch lol
ive been play ow since ow1 beta, originally i was a gears fan, i switched to ow and though the highest i ever got was low diamond i still enjoyed the game (mind you i was on xbox) it wasnt until i switched over to PC to grind up to one day fight against Flats that i saw a huge issue on my skill going from 2 tanks to 1 and dropped to silver. I can say as a tank player that cant aim at all having a second tank would as i have had to learn to play every tank which sucks because I'm a Rein main when i play him i admin the lobby but when i get counter picked by everyone i have to mid max countering their tank and their team. For one person to do that sucks like kinda a lot and i mean a lot. if their tank is running the server i have to counter pick them and when i get counter pick my team doesn't counter them to help me. Having another tank would help this less CC less focus less big tank shoot them and you win and as a DPS or Support you know you can play angels and be in the back line. If they were frontlining instead of me i would be flamed for it and yes there is dive but not everyone is on the same page everyone wants to play what they want and I have no problem with that but if you're going in trying to win comp and climb games then you're going to loose simply by not having to help your tank and yes your tank can be dumb and just walk into fire and stand there wondering why they arent getting healed when a smart tank plays angels plays cover, and doesn't run into fire because they saw the pretty colors. 5v5 is good for it;s own reasons but unless and until the people who play DPS and play Support have to manage everyone else on their team like a kindergarten school teacher where all the kids are doing their own thing and you're yelling at timmy to not eat dirt and suzie has to use the bathroom and somehow your marriage is falling apart and have a kid of your own on the way. They will always say blame tank nuke tank or whatever until they have to be the one frontlining and making the hard choices while also having to know where your whole team is at all times and having every single CD and CC dumped into you and you explode like a pinata and you're full of candy you'll never understand what it means to be a tank player in OW2 because it's just you theres no second like DPS to help cross fire or support that you can lean on to help heal someone while youre being dived its just you it is only just you and until we get either 4v4 or 6v6 back reworks wont fix things and when every tank has to be OP to just survive it gets real old real fast. Still play it a lot though when im not busy making UA-cam content and working full time but with 3 new hero shooters on the way im looking forward to what comes from this breed of competition
real tanking especially on rein just feels awful but hey you never know you might be a top500 marvel ruin player lol you should definitely try that game out when it releases
@@UnknownPlaysVT I got plans to make content in the game if I’m able to participate in the July beta haha and I’ll be playing tank in that game too 😂
same im itching to play marvel ruins i hope you get the beta for july
@@UnknownPlaysVT lol maybe a colab one day in the future, your ball is impressive and man do I hate having to fight a good ball as big since I can’t land a hook to save my life haha 🤣
I’ve been playing since OW1 and the toxic has gotten way worse in OW2. Free to play has all sorts of folks coming in and it is made worse by blizzard putting heavy bans on those who want to leave groups and avoid the toxic.
Heavy bans from leaving groups? I do agree gane is toxic but could you elaborate mire on the bans
i dont need a reality check the game is shit
LMAO
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I dont play nuch tank but i totally respect my tank mains whether they win or lose. You guys have so much pressure to perform, and it really sucks. Endorse your tanks people, they really do deserve it
we need more people like you
This video needs to be spread more. I've gotten attached to overwatchs characters and the unique playstyles of said characters so I don't think I can tear myself from overwatch yet, but this video really pointed out the flaws with this game. Hope this gets more attention.
tbh im already grateful that the video is already doing so well but i agree with you im attached to ow i want to play more but not in the state its in
I have 1k+ hours on the game
stopped playing in 2020 because i got perma
went from platinum to top 500 as a genji main
let me tell you, the game was real trash past 2018, only cancer comps from start to finish, you never got outskilled but instead died all the time to bs abilities
Then i tried overwatch 2 and it was so much more fun, way more dynamic, dps players having a lot of impact, and i even played tank and it was cool
The new maps are really nice, the passives are good, overall it was a great experience (i played season 1 and 2 and then didnt play for 1 year straight)
Came back in january, game was good but not much different from other seasons (except mauga was broken of course), made it to masters and then didnt play for 6 months
I thought the HP changes and hitboxes would kill the game, but on the contrary i was pleasantly surprised the game got way more enjoyable
The truth is Overwatch has never felt this good since late 2017 tanks are balanced and are fun to play, same for supports, same for dps. The rank rework is very good, reminds me of starcraft 2. And now we can play every hero in ranked without grinding for several days. The only bad thing remaining is the skins locked behind a paywall (lost all my skins when i got perma so now i only have deffault ones), but other than that the game is in a great state
The 2 things i hate about ow the most about balance is that they use winrates to buff/nerf heroes and they try to make all heroes viable when it should be that all the well designed heroes should be meta
Balance can simply be adjusted. The core mechanics are still far better than most shooters.
I agree but blizzard track record of making the worst balance for their games still is booty in 20204
Great video my dude! You just got a new subscriber :)
I have been feeling the same thing for months now, and I hate it. I want to love Overwatch but Blizzard just makes it so hard. One thing I really hate with Overwatch is how every hero (except Venture and to some extent Ram) and hero rework just lowers the skill floor overall. Mauga is the most brain dead hero to ever have been released. Horse after the rework just a hero that plays herself without any brain use from the player. Sombra after the rework is the dream hero from someone who just went through a lobotomy or the kiri mains who miss the 6 second tp. And Kiri has to be the worst offender of them all. Kiriko is a master of all trades, jack of none and Blizzard won't nerf or rework her, even if she needs it. The pharah rework was eh, fine. But it made her so much easier. The hog rework is the same thing.
What I am trying to say with this rant is that Overwatch is trying to make their heroes as easy to play as possible so kids can flock in from Fortnite, think they are good and buy a ton of skins and battle @sses, before SBMM screws them over and they'll leave just as quick as they came. And the character that does not sell as many skins, does not get any buffs or anything. AKA Reaper who is in desperate need of a buff or light rework but blizzard just ignores him, or any of the tank heroes whose role got destroyed.
I recently stopped playing OW and picked up the OG Resident Evil games and I'm having the time of my life. It feels weird to not be frustrated in a video game, which is a weird, but true, thing to say.
oh same dude i finished re4 remastered loved it. i think ow2 now is just an early access game at this point dk whats happening anymore and im bored as hell of it
I would have fun in chat but I would avoid personally attacking anyone, maybe I'd give an honest criticism like usually a long the lines of "you're doing just as bad as the person you're complaining about" or "this is only QP why are you acting like this"
Got a negative comment warning, okay. So then on I was aggressively polite, every game telling people gg, it's nice to meet them, it was fun playing with them, not criticizing anyone for any reason
A week later got ANOTHER message warning me about how I was speaking in chat.
It's obvious it's auto done by bots and now I do not speak at all in the text chat or voice chat, I do not say a single word.
Has made the game significantly less fun
i keep randomly seeing rants from these top players and i click on it and yet somehow theyre still just as angry as 2-3 years ago!!! yall said yall would quit yearsss ago why in gods name are yall still their ranting about nothing and pretending yall will quit 100X a year??
you ever hear the definition of insanity
havent touched overwatch since 2020 bit still watched this. how the mighty have fallen
So I've been playing OW for years now. For me, it's starting to mimic the state of real life. For instance: The more time I spend online, the more awful real life seems... everything from dating, politics, the economy, competence of leadership, on and on... but the more I actually just stay offline and go live my life? The better things seem to be. The less chronically online I am, the less sense people's complaints make.
Same goes for OW. With content creators and reddit, etc... the more time you spend in those areas, the more you realize "misery loves company". The less time you spend watching people talk about the game (no offense, I liked your video), the more enjoyable the game seems to be. At least, that is my take away. Anyone else?
i agree this is valid this is why i stay away from ow and acc go do things that matter more i just rather make videos on how i feel baout the game but i also do other things my life isnt overwatch but im still gonna hate on dumb decisions you have good thinking
Yea it's crazy that loot box's were better than the new system, but it is free, so i Is a double-edged sword
AAAA doesn't reward time it rewards money. The sad truth
I'm having more fun than I had through most of Overwatch 1, but it was partly about mentality then, as it's partly about mentality now.
Yeah let's keep hounding them to make it better, but it's already fun. Althoufh, they ought to drop the 2.
the 2 was a cash grab
Welp see you guys in Overwatch on- I mean Marvel Rivals!
man, OW2 as a standalone is not awful, fuck, I main tank and I still think it's not bad, but when you realize this game replaced OW1.. literally the best shooter in the market from 2016 to like late 2018...... and you have memories of playing that much superior version.. it just feels like the worst game ever
tanking is genuinely just miserable to play I haven’t had fun in tank unless me and the enemy tank go doomfist I’m not looking at it from a ow1 nostalgia just tanking rn is extremely frustrating and miserable
@@UnknownPlaysVT TO BE FAIR, I'm still stuck in dogshit ranks so I'm sure it's a lot more annoying in high ranks where people actually know team comps, in my ranks I can still run orisa and average 13k dmg because nobody knows how to play (myself included)
I mean yeah because it’s just cringe people will really stay in spawn just to counter pick it’s annoying asf
@deeeeniiiiss yeah higher ranks it’s gets annoying like most games witha competitive mode but ow for me doesn’t feel competitive just feels like booty cheeks on tank role dps and support is fun though
I love how theres this in depth discussion about the state of a video game, literally go play another game if youre not having fun 😂
So no one can complain about the game they want to play that’s L logic
the fix is as simple as removing mauga, orisa, hog, sombra, moira, all the low skill characters basically
We need skill expression in ow2
you forgot Mercy
i’ll see you at The Finals
I only started playing Overwatch 2. I think the game is fun, its well made and there is not a game like it. Complaining about skins is a weird thing, comparing it to Overwatch which was a full priced 60$ at launch to this, which is free to play is not super fair. To say its a bad game because it did not expand on the original is unfair, should it have expanded on the original, sure you can argue that. But there was never a promise for complete innovation, for what the game is, its not bad. But for what players wanted the game to be it is.
They abandoned the game for years and promised A whole campaign pve mode and updates to competitive. they cancelled pve and ow2 and ow what is the big diffrence nothing jsut one less rank in a match pretty good reasons to hate a game that was good
I think taking a break can help because this game should be for fun not to be taken so serious… it’s rewarding in the sense that it’s meant to be entertaining just like every other game no?
thats the thing i thought the same so i grinded seige and even coming back after 2 seasons the game still has if not more issues then before i dont think ow2 is fun
when your son is a geek
Mained doom in ow1, stuck with him in overwatch 2. Pretty miserable ngl, you have the odd fun game but the experience usually boils down to "oh they have a doom, alr then" *Switches to orisa sombra cass ana bap (Most of the supports work as a counter tbh bc supports are busted asf now)*
Idk man, at this point i want overwatch 1 back as a seperate thing, idgaf if they don't update it, ow2 is ass.
El juego es malo pprque no tiene un a estrategia en cada partida que sea consistente todo el tiempo. Poder pickear cada que mueres algo nuevo no tiene sentido y nerfear a tanques al punto que no puedan ni pushear pq muere en 3 segundos (como máximo) es increíble. Simplemente un juego con poca estrategia y pocos personajea viables para un juego así.
I think this game attracts bad gamers. Theirs a reason Moira is so popular, she has to be the most hand holding character of all video games. Also people have BAD input like ALL blaming anyone but themselves.
My guy. Why are you acting like every ounce of enjoyment in this game hinges on wether or not you’re able to buy skins as a f2p.
did you not even get past that part of the video i literally talked about it once then never again lmao plus i think its important because i dont feel rewarded as a player
saying all this while playing ball is stupid. the game is in a good state for 5v5 but thats for 5v5. So one tank still gets shit on but thats 5v5. cant do anything about it. unless they add 6v6. Ball is the only tank i seen where even with the whole team picking counter he still survives. Sounds op to me. Every other tank has counter which is good because they aint hard counters. Besides roadhog vs dva, and reaper vs monkey or ana vs roadhog (counter able). Balancing is when I still have a chance of winning even when they have counters. By counters I mean one on one counters or one on two, not 4 counters and I can still win, that's OP. But I agree ranking mode is still ass, but that's the mode itself. The Balancing is way better then before, they just need to open their eyes to the hard counters. Btw every tank needs skill, if u just go into the other team without plan u will die. Meaning if u survived U have skill. So no such thing as low skill high reward. that's been overturned by the counters. Making it high skill, risk, and high reward.
my issue with ball is that if i go any type of dive and do exceedingly well i lierally cant play any other dive tank so i have to default into the meta tanks to win idc if i have to switch thats why i like overwatch but being forced to switch isnt fun
@@UnknownPlaysVT i get u
lol this game died before ow2 even came out
ow2 players or streamers? Feel like most players know how bad the game is
a mix of both
Can you afford the hottest TS? Probably not. Taylor Swift concerts are going up in price.
overwatch 2 sucks it should have never come out
i agree with this video .. ow2 is hot trash i hope the devs lose their jobs they have no talent for game design 👍👍
thank you for watching the video
I feel like you never played OW1. Ball was unplayable then as well. Sombra on the enemy team, can’t ball, mei of the enemy team, can’t ball. Choose ball anyway? You are throwing because double barrier meta. You can claim the game is dead all you want and cry about stupid shit because of your rose tinted glasses but player numbers don’t lie.
if were talking about number yo uwanna mention how every match there is less deaths nad kills ow2 isunironically slower paced then ow1 and even then theres rarely a fair game you wither steam roll or oyu get steam rolled and i did play ow1 i wasnt a ball main
@@UnknownPlaysVT Are you serious? Games no longer stretch on for far longer than necessary since point stalling is much more difficult to do. Shorter matches = Less deaths. That’s assuming what you say is true, I just tried to look it up and I see no information on this at all.
@@Catbeans99 samito has a video on it but yes check average kills in double shield meta vs ow2
@@UnknownPlaysVT That would make sense, longer matches = more kills. More kills does not mean the game had a better flow to it. That’s a deceptive stat
@@UnknownPlaysVT Also, are those stats for all ranks? Is it for top 500? Also when did those kills occur? Was it evenly throughout the game or was it at end game point stall?
Im tired of the losestreaks no matter how much effort you put in.
Just counter and you’ll start winning
@UnknownPlaysVT-jd7yr yeah you keep saying thay but if you're hardstuck in platinum on soloqueu and you're the only one countering it's absolute hell.
@@ArtoriasStormcock no i get you sometimes i just kinda give up when i ask for kiriko and i end up with a dps moira i cannot solo que ow because it feels like a gamble idk wth im gonna get
@@UnknownPlaysVT exaaaactly
Who moans about something that's free? 😂
i bought overwatch 1 how is it free???
@@UnknownPlaysVT 🤣
@@BrazenBull91 i know its free but it wasnt before so?
@UnknownPlaysVT-jd7yr things change. Moaning has never solved a single problem.
Bro, I sincerely suggest that you change the title to "Overwatch 2 defenders need a reality check".
no
@@UnknownPlaysVT well, not all ow2 players support the 5v5 and shitty balance team.
@@Rewind-xq6xs so what’s the issue?? If it doesn’t apply to you? Plus it’s my video
@@UnknownPlaysVT ofc it doesn’t apply to me, I’ve been afk since ow2 came out, and even if I started playing recently but I never supported the 5v5 format, and ffs I never supported the balance team, neither Jeff’s nor the balance team now, they fucking suck, each balance decision they made seems to me is a bronze player whining about things they don’t understand, or a bronze player who wants his/her own main to be overpowered. It is your video, and I was simply suggesting, not all ow2 players support the shit blizzard made.
Nah keep cooking. The OW community is starting to realize how bad the game is and how much streamers are defending and gaslighting us
the shills are among us
Streamers are defending it because it’s the only game they have an audience. Branch out and play other games
@@zMaverickHunter22 i know but when all the streamers were hyping up ow2 and the game was literally an updates ruins my perception of the streamers
It was an absolute failure and a scam from day 1, almost 2 years ago 😂
i feel like i am being targeted here for just playing the game, i don't even play ranked i just play casually for fun.
Worst sequel to exist.
* PvE canned.
* Boring seasons with useless time-limited modes.
* Terrible matchmaking.
* Arcade sucks.
* Bad progression & rewards.
* Constant switching.
* Too much reliance of FOMO.
* S9 is the worst season.
* Devs are too slow to communicate or no communication.
Very true
*PvE was always going to be dogshit. OW PvE has never been good
*the season have always been boring with useless time-limited modes
*this is true
*Arcade has always sucked and shouldn't be in the game
*Progression and rewards are meaningless
*the game was built around switching heroes, it's a stupid mechanic, but Blizzard is a stupid dev
*It's a live service game, that's how this works
*S9 had the most players ever, so hard to argue with the results
*the devs don't owe you communication
As the wise Freelo (your overwatch) once said... "You're a flat Earther if you don't like the 5v5". It's people like him that are truly killing the game.
that guy is a full shill its sad cus i use to watch his videos for all the updates
@@UnknownPlaysVT dude I never watched him, but I remember seeing some of his videos recommended years ago in ow1, and thought he seemed like a cool normal guy, but wtf happened LMAO THAT 6V6 IS FLAT EARTH THUMBNAIL GENUINELY MADE MY JAW DROP
I stopped watching him. He's just bad.
OK, I'm gonna lay it on you. IF, and big if cuz it's NEVER HAPPENING, they switch back to 6v6, and they actually fix the matchmaker, what happens to queue times in ranked? I'll tell you. It won't be pretty. We'll be right back to 15 minute DPS queue times in Diamond and above. Some people just don't get that players don't want to play that dogshit tank role. What they should consider instead is switching back to 6v6 and getting rid of the tank role and role lock altogether
@@RemedieXYou must be bad is you want to hide behind double barrier all day.
My issue with the ball argument is that ball is very oppressive when you DON'T counter pick him. Teams can't aim at him, they can't protect their backline, and they can't kill him before he grabs a health pack. Fighting a ball without a Sombra to shut him down feels you're throwing the match in this meta
Tbf, he kind of did hit on that by saying tanks are either OP or hard countered, and because ball is OP he has to be hard countered. I definitely agree and it's a blatant 5v5 problem
@@SunderMun Tanks are just one dimensional. It's basically just a macro / hero swap role, because most tanks are very shallow and don't allow for almost any skill expression. Ball is basically the one exception here. It's a basic design flaw for the role, that the characters only exist to not let other people play the game, without being able to do anything skilled themselves.
@@DevinDTV yep and again a problem with 5v5
Same issue as Doom. He NEEDS to be counterswapped. Otherwise, he'll dominate the lobby
@@RemedieX mostly if you know how to play him, but you can't play him without knowing how to, or else you're throwing, but as time goes on more and more people know how to play him so
Now a lot of people know how to play him
Ill never understand the hate for lootboxes. Even when we were in overwatch, i loved loot boxes! I had every skin in the game because of lootboxes. Sure its random, but the randomness adds to the fun of it and you can have always get a lot of coins to buy the cosmetics you want anyways. So why the lootbox hate?
Same also the added benefit of the level loot box and the event loot box and not having to pay for it
lootboxes are literally never coming back though, they're considered gambling and are banned in many countries.
I wonder how many of those people only played OW at the beginning. The original implementation of loot boxes was not NEARLY as generous as it became later. Later, I had so many coins and almost everything in the game, but that took them tweaking how loot boxes worked.
The problem is that the randomness is meant to prey on gambling addicts, which is if I recall is classified as an addiction similar to substance abuse. It does not affect everyone, but it does prey on quote on quote "whales" (a nice, marketable, and corperate term for addicts) for issues in their brain not under their control. Lootboxes are illegal in certain countries for a reason, which is probably the only reason they changed it along with being out of fashion to gamers
Gambling is fun guys who could have thought.
Damn, this made me want to play Overwatch
have you ever heard the definition of insanity
why?? bro every bad AAA game is doomed, people will never quit
@@GimmemiThat's the problem, if people quit, it might shoot these companies up the ass.
Pretty sure mauga day one was...ass in terms of viability...then they buffed him and he became the bane of everyone's existance...and then they nerfed him into being ass.
Mauga is such a poorly designed tank hes just bastion but a tank. Just stand there, burn down tank, charge in and kill everything else. Just stand there and shoot without much else, maybe backing up a bit if your low but man I remember seeing all yhe roll outs mauga could do and being excited but....hes just...awful, hes boring to play and play against. At least orisa felt good for the orisa because you had these cycles with your abilities and you could end up feeling unstoppable but mauga is just
"Standing still...shooting tank....they swap to ana....you suffer....stand still....get naded....back out....shoot tank....
Standing still...shooting tank....they swap sigma....get all your shots absorbed....get rocked...back out...get out poked" even mauga is screwed by the counterplay.
literally tanking in ow is just boring asf
I started playing ow2 after feeling some burnout from rust and can’t agree more with your points! The game is so stale and that is upsetting as someone who bought the original games origins edition 😭
Been playing since 2018 I wish they just abandoned and left it had way more fun then the any season of ow2
@@UnknownPlaysVT I would rather play OW with double shield and infinite cc instead of the cluster fuck ow2 is
@@UnknownPlaysVT fr if they had just abandoned ow1 it would be nicer
@@UnknownPlaysVT FOR REAL DUDE I CAME BACK IN 2022 AND WAS HAVING THE TIME OF MY LIFE (dec 2021 - oct 2022) if they just left it I'd be playing the game more oh that reminds me I have to finish the battlepass because it's about to end and I'M NOT EVEN LEVEL 70 lmfao it's crazy how uninterested I am in the current state of the game
They literally made the competitive mode so that you can play with players in ANY rank, so a grandmaster can que with a silver and be in the same lobby….. WHATS THE POINT OF HAVING A RANK THEN!???
wide range matchmaking not worth it my freind was d4 and i was masters 5 and it took almost 2 hours to find a game Blizzard takes L after L
@@UnknownPlaysVT It's not really an L to at least give the option. I don't think it's an L when having it doesn't detract from anything
@@livedcoffee1719 I agree, we knew wide matches would take awhile to find. The developers even mentioned that was one of the reasons they held off so long on implementing it. Its to be expected if you want a fair game.
In the end your not much worse off than the previous system. In the worse case you won't find a game to play together, which is not much different from not playing together before. But in the best case you are able to find a game to play together and can enjoy some time with friends that was not possible before. So I think the wide matching is a W.
You can't have your cake and eat it too.
I don't agree with it either. I think creating wide/narrow matches just creates longer queue times by splitting it into narrow and wide groups. Let's not forget this was real main reason 5v5 became a thing in the first place. BUT with that being said I think the main reason is to give casuals gold/jade weapons while being able to play with their friends like how they would normally in QP.
So the point of having competitive IN THEORY is to allow casuals get rewards that they wouldn't normally have and/or care to grind for, while allowing the narrow groups/solo queuers to grind normally and (again in theory) have a more fair even game.
@@livedcoffee1719 im masters 5 and my freind is diamond 4 we cant queue together because of wide matchmaking even though im only 4 ranks above her longest que we had was 2+ hours and it was a diamond lobby how is hat not an L im being punished for high placements
The game overall is quite good, its simply that players are being faced with bad experiences from "Streamers" and other aspects they seem to nit pick.
I personally enjoy the game for a few rounds but could not completely main the game like some people.
The game has a bit more content since the update into Overwatch 2 and I dont see any conflict with the game as a whole.
For Streamer wise, the only cool people who you will get respect from are limited in numbers.
I redownloaded it for nostalgia's sake. I realized that the first few games I was esentially curbstomping everyone because I've played basically since the beta, but after a while it wasn't fun anymore, I miss when matches were close to each other and when the Eliminations didn't go into double digits that often.
Now you can just tell which team is going to win if you look if their tank has more kills than the other tank or which one died less than the other. Instead of Overwatch it's just "Tank vs. Tank" and other dps who can get around the tank or supports which can stun the tank, it's all about tank. And if the tank player isn't doing that well it's their fault that they lose the game because the developer team decided for the tank to be the main pivotal point of the game.
Sure the main framework that was in Overwatch 1 is still there now, unique heroes, unique abilities and interesting game design, but it's been wrecked so much by the balancing and marketing teams that the game is so much worse overall. No more lootboxes, no more natural progression, instead you get a battle pass, no more interesting combos like Rein+Zarya or Ball+Winston, only one tank and the dps get to play a single player game and come back once in a while to get healed. No more Grav Surge + Shatter combos, sorry the dev team decided that was bad. Anyways here's Sojourn, Mauga, Kirko and Rammatra being absolute menaces.
And I know, the old Overwatch wasn't perfect but it was fun to play and you could just chill a bit on tank, unlike now you have to be stressed and high out of your mind to play well and not commit any mistakes because if not you lose point or match. You could just sit back enjoy a few matches of quick play and get some lootboxes by the end of the evening it was fun, rewarding and people kept coming back. I'm pretty sure that if they kept up with updates or new content that old overwatch could've been on the level of League Of Legends kind of popularity or at the very least not die to Valorant.
nah what the elims were way higher in ow1 lmao, but the rest you said here is good 👍
The fix for ow2, 6v6 and good balancing. What are we getting now? Nerf every single hero over and over until some magic happens. Have I ever told you the definition of insanity?
no the problem isn't nerfs it's power creep, instead of s9 health changes they should've just nerfed stuff (or go back to 6v6 fr)
@bambampewpew32 the problem is power creep and nerfs.
Thought only me was releasing this , ive played since 2019
Since s3 till now i barely play or enjoy
yall are flat earthers lmfao, play any other game and you'll see ow is so fine. literally cry more
90 percent of people agree
This game is not good. The tank role is so miserable. I can’t play the role anymore.
So the healers keep the tank alive, they can’t keep the tank alive if the healers die. If only you played a disruptive tank that could get to the back line 🤔
Note, this is a long comment, that get's a little sarcastic at the end. No hate to the creator or anyone that agrees. I DO hate your guys stance on the game though, and disagree with a lot of parts.
- Overwatch 1 had a bad monetization plan. I get that it sucks not being able to just grind for the the in game cosmetics, but part of the reason OW1 shut down is because it wasn't sustainable.
- For every Mauga, Kiriko, and Illiari there's a Lifeweaver, Ramatra, and Venture (Making a tolerable meta is more profitable than getting people to buy the battle pass because a hero is so strong. I doubt the devs made those characters that strong on purpose.)
-You get 900 coins a season pretty sure on the free track of the the BP. This amount used to be spread out through weekly challenges, so you missed out on a lot of coins if you didn't play a lot. Also don't forget the separate currency you get in order to buy every other cosmetic, including previous skins that used to be money only. Sure you have to wait longer, but all this to say you can't say it's not getting better when they made it more consistent to get all your coins, and you can still grind for every skin that isn't bran spanking new. Blizzard needs to make money somehow
- They changed the ranked system so people wouldn't get immediately discouraged by seeing their points go down in real time. The execution wasn't a cure all, & it didn't give the intended results, but it's not like they did it for novelty sake. There's no right way to go about it really. The whiners will always whine whether they see their rank go down after 1 match or 5
- Giving people more information of why not every win is equal is, in fact, not more confusing. Having more information is actually less confusing.
- The enemy swapping 5 heros to counter 1 isn't a reflection of how strong the hero is, rather the lack of incentive to not switch isn't as prominent as it was in OW1.
- You could switch Orisa into Hog, because what's the point in making your life harder, but then what's the point of anything? This isn't to say there isn't a tank problem, but the tank problem is merely exasperated by 5 v 5, 6 v 6 still had these problems
- Aisian Serves are filled with people who play Dive n shit at the very top of the leaderboard. No ones telling you to play the safe option. You put the meaning into winning, and if all you wanna get out of winning is seeing your rank go up, play the safe character. However, I like feeling better than my opponent, so I'll play something more difficult if it means 1. i'm playing the character I wanna play, and 2. I can still win. Which you can do as mentioned by you
- If you're winning the game by ignoring the hog and going for the squishies that just sounds like strategy more than a problem. You shouldn't play into every matchup the same, and that's fine; Otherwise you're just playing a glorified single player game where you do one thing over and over with no variety. Don't get me wrong, Hog is in a funny place, but you shouldn't fight hog the same way you fight a Zarya
- Again, it's still a balance issue, because 4 tanks counter picking each other isn't somehow better than 2. As well as, you're relying on your teammate to pick up that slack and pick a tank that compliments you. If you don't get that, then you're liable to be punished to the same extent you are now.
-Because it's in every creators best interest to be as polarizing as possible. The algorithm likes you, I like it, it's why i clicked on this video. It's got a polarizing title. It's also much easier to sow discourse and to doom n gloom, rather than getting competitive shooting game players to admit there's hope for their game. These two things together combined to create a self realizing path to hating the game no matter what, until you get exactly what you want, only to see it wasn't what was needed.
you're delusional, if you don't like the game please leave it. Constructive criticism is good but relentless negativity while the game is in a golden era is not needed. Take it elsewhere please
so the 90 percent of people that liked the video are delusional aswell?
Great video, u nailed, thats excatly how I feel playin ball, and also all dive characters became more easily punished, and everyone know dive is by far the funniest style in this game
We need dive meta back 😭 and thank you
The thing is though.... while I understand your argument, and CAN agree with some of your claims, your outlook is wrong. I feel like your view on the skins being almost unavailable to f2p users doesn't make sense. Fortnite does the same thing. Yet they don't get complaints from people. And overwatch 2 is getting better. The original ceo was greedy, but now they can focus on improving the game because he's not there anymore. Many people are also having fun. Some people don't care about the meta at all, and still play the game. Also, the og overwatch was in a "similar" state, yet people kept playing. All because they believed in the development team and overwatch 2. Your point is valid, but you haven't considered other things in the situation.
i was a lil harsh on f2p because they do need to make their money but i still stand by my points i did make a video replying to comments and i go more in depth about it
Tbh... The state of the game is worst but I still enjoy the game.
I am still deeply saddened with 1 less tank.
if you still enjoy it not a issue but for me im done with it
I respect the opinion. Currently, overwatch is like an On and Off relarionship. You hated the game in its current state but it cant be replaceable
@@oracleplays2644 yeah basically i still like the game its just too much issues for me to take it seriously
that is neat, well back to fighting games.
bro literally banned multiple times for each of them one month. I do not understand why trollers, uncooperative players, mentally unstable players and swearing people do whatever they want while I am the one who gets ban lmao. I told them what is happened actually they dont listen nor remove ban ironicaly because of that i cant get rank up and cant have fun at all lol it is quite dead game sad i wasnt be able to play back in right time
honestly bro ow2 not even worth playing save yourself
they can't do whatever they want. You're making up an argument.
@@lunarro7 hes not making it up though especially on console and some on pc ive had games were people were toxic and nothings happened to them
@@UnknownPlaysVT stop defending your viewers just because they're viewers who support you he is making things up. I'm not arguing over this. ow team has been on top of banning these past 2 weeks. every report I have made has done something. this guy is just mad he got banned.
@@lunarro7 its not an argument its a conversation and i just disagree ive heard sexism racism in ow and they never got banned but i also agree with you they are suspending a lot more players for voice comms but at the cost of not even being able to swear dont you think its weird when blizzard banned swearing in ow that more bans started to happen?
A decent chunk of these points aren't actually that massive of a problem and are just opinions.
- Monetization doesn't actually effect you unless you want a skin, is still pretty easy with the credits currency IMO
- Nitpicking at past updates and comparing them to now doesn't actually mean anything - games will change over time regardless of what people want
- Players opinions on how they view the game is subjective
- Complaining about how comp works (better in my opinion)
- etc, etc.
The only thing I could agree with is the tankiness of certain characters, and the balancing of playstyles - to a certain extent.
It is a of course a well made video and keep up the grind, but I think if you're going to make a video being all fussy about the game, don't pick the topics that don't actually hold that much weight.
I miss 6v6 because there wasn't as much pressure as a DPS, besides maybe making a play and covering for a dead tank. Now I have to watch flank for sombra, do damage to the tank, somehow pull off a flank to elim their pocket mercy who's flying like an eagle, and take care of my supports at the same time. Having that extra tank gave dps some breathing room to make plays. Played Zarya in solo quick matches and I had the least amount of fun in a while.
I still play the game almost every day and I still enjoy it heck out of it.
But I agree with almost everything you've said. Overwatch 2 is still a good game but it's nowhere near as good as Overwatch 1 was in it's heyday. I miss having a second tank to play around (especially as Rein, they done killed my boy) and the game just feels like it's had a load of what made it exciting sucked out of it.
Hopefully the devs listen one day and make big enough changes to address this, but for now I'm happy to have it for entertainments sake.
Bro how delusional are these people overwatch2 barely listens to the community and instead of making good changes they rather nerf genji hanzo and reaper even doomfist caught a nerf right after he got buffed the game is terrible rn
Great video
The answaer is very simple
6v6
Samito deservs love for standing up to his believs and so do u
Also Freedo is a very rude guy, and him calling samito a friend is just:(
I see 2 positive points. The owcs and the fact the game has indeed slightly improved and seems to be in that direction.
I quote "that was some improvement, but it's not hard to improve on garbage"
Great video with spot on points made. OW2 really is a slap in the face with a turd lol definitely the biggest tragedy in gaming
agree with most of his points, but bro is complaining on other tanks are broken when he plays ball that has a ability that gives him 600hp. kinda weird when he says "problem is tanks with stupid abilities" when ball is the same. and the point of counter picking is just crying. its a part of the game and it was the same in ow1
counterpicking in ow1 was easy to play around but in ow2 since its on less tank it feels even worse especially if your playing payload attack the tank that's on defence has a massive advantage of just checking what hero you switch so he can instantly switch to a counter it was not this bad in ow1
youre cooking bro. Also i main ball and you are spot on with that aswell
ty ty i just htink the game is unfun for both teams having to hard counter one character is not fun having to switch off because your being hard countered isnt fun this game is not fun
Lmfao, there are Moira one tricks in the top 500. If they can’t win with Moira how tf did they get there? 🤡
You are delusional by your logic doomfist is the best tank because one person hit top500 with him that makes no sense a exception doesn’t count
@@UnknownPlaysVT YOU said every game with a Moira was an instant loss. You want to take your anecdotal experience like it’s fact ignoring those that have obviously won enough playing against what you claim are the “best” insta win picks. You give off major “you didn’t play what I told you to play so now I throw” vibes.
@@Catbeans99 you know what exaggerating is if you want a clarification no moira doesnt mean the game is lsoy but would i rathe have any other support then moira yes
@@Catbeans99 also i already said what i said bout the moira thing just cus few moir mains hit top 500 doesnt mean shes S tier
@@UnknownPlaysVT I would rather take a support that the player can perform on.
agree if you are new to ow2 just stop and unistall , waste of time
Bro I can't watch this video sorry but it's too laggy I have to use it as a podcast my eyes hurt
Yh my b UA-cam quality keeps messing up
@@UnknownPlaysVT Tbh it's kinda sad for overwatch to be this bad because I fell in love with their lore and characters but sadly that ended when overwatch 2 got released
@@Purpylek i feel you, cancelling the pve really ruined it for me ow was my favourite game of all time at one point but sadly blizzard greed got to it :(
@@UnknownPlaysVT Yeah the only thing now that's good from overwatch 2 is it's Corn, and there's a lot of it but I would 1000% trade all the corn for overwatch 1
at this point I became so bored of a game I just wanted to stop playing it forever.... And NO PVE! yep you lost me Blizzard
literally i was so more excited for pve then multiplayer
@@UnknownPlaysVT SAME BRO!
Them reworking Orisa and then releasing Ramattra is still the funniest shit I've ever seen come out of Overwatch 0.5
lmao
Bro people can play what they want this is legit equivalent to the meme of stop having fun you’re not allowed to have fun!
bro has never played the tank role
Waited 11 minutes for a comp game before giving up on it today. Honestly as someone who paid for this game originally I am surprised that I haven't been compensated for it. This game is more of a chore than my actual job, it is not fun anymore. Thanks for this video btw!
hay remember when overwatch was a game you could pick any hero to win welp nope if your not playing the 1% metas or else also battle passes made no sense and will stop now that theres nothing worth buying em so that should be a wake up call and reworks are the worst they screwed the pooch on just about everyone of them but will never do it to kiriko or sojourn get some equality dont just kill off original heros well i mean they already did a ton of times
ow2 in a nutshell
@@UnknownPlaysVT i hate how i will never get my refunds from the cash i spent or hours because that cash went into a dumpster fire thats still burning
I have fun with the game, although i definitely dont like the new heros, specifically kiriko and mauga
Ramattra, JQ, illari, venture are fine imo, i dont really find illari that annoying, although i definitely am noticing the mobility creep, alot of heros now have way more mobility
Ive been playing alot of ball, and the cc is really annoying to deal with, especially if the other team has zenyatta, the other team will just hard focus you and your hp will go away instantly
So it makes it harder to fully engage into the other team, so you end up having to play smarter in a way.. But at least hunting down sombra as ball isnt as difficult as it used to be, before sombra could just place a translocator far away and instantly go away
The ball rework isnt really a rework.. Its more just additions to Ball's kit
Also they did make venture unlocked for everyone right away, so the game is argueably getting better in some degrees
Yes the launch of the game was bad, but you can play the game now and i have no problems launching the game on pc
OW2 is the worst fps of the past decade change my mind
Reaal
The game is way too noob friendly it's so bad
it is idk why there's a switch up in gaming in general making everything like super easy to play
noob friendly? makes me think you haven't played it, or barely played it. There are many valid complaints about this game but being noob friendly isn't one of them. Other shooters are just about learning to aim, OW has many other things to track and know about, for example to go anywhere in the rank system you have to have a strong understanding of now 36 different heroes all with 5+ different abilities plus passives and multiple map modes.
@@pizzazzsnudge7800 illari can dps and heal her team at once kiriko has suzu which negates everything mauga get health from shooting tank it is very noob friendly skill gap is close to non existence
@@UnknownPlaysVT Giving examples of hero abilities isn’t an argument of why the game is noob friendly. Ilari or Kiriko are not even considered as one of the easier support heroes in the game. You just sound like a dps player who got mad and quit cause you got out played by a support.
@@pizzazzsnudge7800 im a tank main lmao but i play all roles and illari is literally braindead easy you press a button and heal your whole team without thinking about it how is that not noob friendly so your telling me mauga takes the same amount of skill as doomfist?
and since we talking about dps the fact a kiriko use to two tap squishes and get a free tp is insane
If that's the problem with some of these content creators especially they will always have something to say to folks like this guy. I don't care what anybody thinks the game is dead to me and it's only dying in general. They have to be positive about the game cuz that's how they make their money bassoon when the viewership and they will know
I had a game on support where I ended up swapping to bap off ana to try to get more dmg and in the last fight that lasted around 50 seconds i had no time to do anything but hold rightclick on my tank and i even had to window for the healing and we ended up full holding and winning but damn that didnt feel good at all. this was a high masters lobby by the way like the game should not be this dump dmg and healing on to each teams tank because holy crap is it ever boring for all parties involved
doomer take
Tanks just suck right now and support and dps are super strong so now the most team based role can’t have a team back them up when everyone plays for themselves they need to rework the tank role to have more solo potential
If we're being completely honest, overwatch 2 has improved a lot from launch to now, coins are easier to get, the UI is better (slightly) and some other stuff
Now, is this better than overwatch 1?
LOOOOOOL Not even close, i bet overwatch 2 would be a dead game if ow1 was available, idk how people got gaslighted by streamers back in the ow2 beta because i played it and was immediately bored out of my mind, i was like "there's no way this game revives overwatch" and thats exactly what happened
5v5 is flawed, the game is too simple and frankly not interesting, and I've almost never felt like matches are close or tight, the matches where winning or losing is a close call are far between, and its usually "oh we'll win this is easy" or "welp i don't have a team gg go next"
Really hoping for an overwatch classic at some point, overwatch was literally my favorite multiplayer game that i played basically all day every day for the entirety of its lifespan, with the exception of goats
Ow2 is just... Eh, its ok i guess? The only other hero shooter out there is paladins and i dont enjoy the cards and lack of polish so... Yeah
Can definitely see why new players enjoy ow2, but seriously this game is bad compared to what we had before
but it did only get better when they started adding things from ow1 lmao but fr its not as bad as the satrt of season 9 but it aint a hell lot of better rn
It’s an okay game but good? What a joke
The game needs to be fixed
Overwatch remastered we need it.
just give us 1 back ;-;
Imma get clowned for this but i just play paladins. Skins are cheaper, give you more, new heroes can be earned pretty easily without premium currency, item shop gives more varied gameplay, card system does the same. Havent looked back.
If youre sick of OW then try paladins. The streamers are professional gaslighters.
Honestly might try it why not
@@UnknownPlaysVT enjoy bro
@@Lopnawe ty I will I did use to play it on ps4 but any changes?
@@UnknownPlaysVTthey added a couple new mid game shop items, new champs obviously, payload is back. Its just kinda chillin
i gotta try it
i quite a month ago,never been happier with life