Corey Deuel playing Russian pyramid
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- Опубліковано 27 сер 2024
- Corey Deuel decided to give pyramid a try during the Kremlin cup 2019 where he also played pool 10 ball. He played several pyramid matches, but for some reason only single game was recorded - so here it is!
0:00 Intro
0:53 Lag
2:04 Frame 1
11:02 Frame 2
17:38 Frame 3
20:55 Frame 4
25:11 Frame 5
27:32 Frame 6
The narrator did an amazing job of explaining both the rules and the tactics involved in this sport, not to mention a very good explanation of other pyramid rule sets during the course of this match.
The music was excellent too. The game? Very, very, Russian. Pain.
I agree. As I first time viewer of pyramid I feel I have a entry level understanding.
Pyramid billiards deserve more recognition worldwide.Despite its simple rules, it is actually as challenging as snooker
Its definitely challenging, to challenging I would say! there doesn't seem to be the same danger of missing a pot or playing a bad safety like snooker or pool, and no excitement of a big break or runout like the other cuesports, it might be fun to play but it will never be a great spectator sport.
Definitely. In some aspects it's harder than snooker given the incredibly tight pockets and large, heavy balls. Both are very difficult in their own right.
@@jaybe2908 I completely agree. These guys are wonderful at there sport as well as snooker. Pool/billiards is struggling as it is we dont need to throw a new game where no one makes a ball for an hour. I live in the united states and the pool halls that survived the covid-19 pandemic for the most part have diamond tables with smaller pockets Some have brunswich gold crowns. I guess what Im trying to say is this will never take in america.
@@jaybe2908 You are so wrong, you are watching a world-class pool player having fun and a very mediocre player that would lose a tournament in my local pyramid hall. You have to see top Pyramid player's games like Krijanovski, Abramov, Balov, Shkoda... and so on they make it as fast as a pool frame, and they play open discipline the game a pace of nine-ball.
Super challenging game
I’m amazed at how good deuel is at this. He’s obviously a great pool player but I thought he’d struggle a lot even against an amateur. he played some very impressive shots
I hope Americans realise now how amatuer their tables are with such massive pockets. I would contend though even those pockets are a little too tight. Snooker table pockets are probably the best compromise. What makes American table pockets so bad is when you compare the size of the pocket in relation to the size of the table. Not oly that the straight cut just sucks the balls in, even if you are an inch or so off the rail you are guarunteed to pocket a ball.
chocol8tsundae yeah I agree. I like pool a lot because of the different formats and strategies and stuff but they need to make the game harder at the professional level. Chinese 8-ball is good because you see professionals really trying hard to run racks
@@chocol8tsundae "even if you are an inch or so off the rail you are guarunteed to pocket a ball"
Not even remotely, not a a typically cut pocket for pros, especially. On many of those tables a FULLY STUCK TO THE RAIL ball will not go, at higher speeds. You need to play on those tables a bit more, I think, before you comment on how they work.
And you don't seem to understand that the fact that the pockets are larger doesn't make any difference since ALL the competitors on any given table have exactly the same setup. It just makes it different in that many balls are pocketed by pros in succession, but jump on one sometime, and see how many 6 - 10 packs (consecutive run outs) YOU put in plying eight or nine ball. You are talking out of your hat, and that just makes you sound ignorant.
OH, and if you want a DIFFICULT American pool game, try one played with pockets that are INFINITELY smaller than these, because there ARE NONE. Give some 3 cushion a shot. I get so sick of these chest beating "ours is bigger and badder" crap. Almost always nonsense.
And I was so enjoying this until I had to run into your ignorant and poorly thought out comment.
@@homersimpson8561 Exactly, this is the first pyramid game I've seen and it is really cool. I would love to give it a shot sometime if I could find a table, which I doubt. I would put this about as far away from pool as 3 cushion is. Looks a bit frustrating, but fun, and BOY would it improve both my shooting and caroming skills.
@@MrJdsenior spot on! I always try to explain this, but people are too ignorant and close-minded to understand.
Go Corey! I always say that Corey is at his best when is mind is fully activated. When he has to be creative and highly precise, he shines.
3am watching a game I'll never play and never knew existed but at least if I get kidnapped and my life depends on knowing the rules of Russian Pyramid I'll be safe.
please post more videos. I love this game!
VERY interesting. Almost NOTHING in common with pool or snooker, that I can see. I was amazed the first time I saw that ball go roaring into that far right pocket and just STOP in the jaws. It was obvious what had happened to me, it's just that I'd NEVER seen a ball 'wipe it's feet' in the jaws and stop without looking like it was even moving. Just looked like it rolled into a wall of REALLY excellent sticky tape.
The commentator was great, too. "Cory Dual attempts an INSANE shot ..."
Enjoyed it. I would be interested to hear what Corey had to say about it afterward.
Now I need to go find some PRO level pyramid play.
Не знаю, кто автор этого видео, но огромное спасибо за труды! Титаническая работа по монтажу и озвучке!
I remember several years ago being impressed by a Russian playing American pool, so I looked up Evgeny Stalev and was treated to some amazing Pyramid.
funny combination of carom and pocketing..yet again different from Old English game. Would love to try it once
I can easily see this game played as race to 1 😂
this looks very fun, ngl. thanks for sharing!
What an awesome video and game.
Deuel is well on his way to becoming a legend. Players like Deuel and Reyes who dabble in many games at a high level have a repertoire of new skills that they can apply back to their own games. For example, Reyes has made some of the best masse shots ever seen on a pool table and he can run 100 in straight rail billiards which requires that skill as a matter of course.
no wonder gorst is so good if he grew up playing this !! amazing game, thanks for the great video
*FRED GORST WAS THERE FOR KREMLIN CUP AND WAS AFRAID TO PLAY RUSSIAN PYRAMIND. SO WAS SVB. ONLY ONE WITH BALLS TO PLAY WAS COREY. DOUBT FRED PLAYED PYRAMID OTHERWIDE HE WOULD HAVE PLAYED IN THE COMPETITION TOO*
According to his own words he didn't really played pyramid. He tried it as a kid for a very short time and wasn't successful.
I thought he called making the cue ball an in-offski. He was saying the guy’s name. 😂
I'll be sure to refer people in America to your videos when explaining Russian Pyramid. It's a shame the only places I can play this are either in Chicago or NYC.
In the past I had steered people to the classic 2005 free Pyramid tournament match between Earl Strickland and Yuri Pashinsky when imtroducing this game, but not anymore!
Guys don't be fooled by this video: the table is TERRIBLE! It must be poorly assembled, new model tables never stuck so much in the jaws; Second Corry clearly does not understand the game, he just has a fun, If I would train him for three months while sparing with Pyramid hustlers, he would be a top-notch player in the pyramid player as well; Third, that guy Yanovski might be afraid of Correy or out of shape... he is playing the very bad game because the game is much faster when it is executed properly; Fourth Pyramid is the easiest kind of billiard among all because there are no forbidden balls, that makes that game positionally simple.
5:40 From my experience I can tell, when trained amateurs play it, one frame can take much less than a pro duel because they don't use safety but still have pretty good accuracy :)
Next time, ask Corey to play dynamic pyramid. that type of game should suit him better than this combined pyramid game.
Thank you so much for the tutorial!
I would love to try this game, don't think there'd be any tables in the UK
In Pyramid, do the rules allow for more than 1 point to be scored per shot?
Also, I have seen Pyramid ball sets that have numbers on the white balls, are these for some other game?
Yes, every ball which went in gives you one point.
Traditionally all pyramid balls are numbered from 1 to 15 plus colored ball without a number. There is a Classic pyramid game where pocketed ball gives you amount of points equal to it's number, but nobody plays it these days, so numbers don't matter.
@@pyramidbilliards536 Thanks for the information!
That would be a good game to learn Russian Pyramid!Does anyone have a table like this in USA?
Are these slates heated like on carom tables?
Is the cloth napped like snooker tables or is it a worsted cloth?
Would love to give it a try along with all the rest of the cue sports around the world. Play mostly 9ball myself..
Heating is an option on premium tables, but not sure if these particular tables have it. Since the accuracy in pyramid is quite insane - heating may actually be very important for top players, especially in cold weather in big sports hall like this one.
Cloth is worsted like on pool tables, but usually is slower and many players complain about it.
@@pyramidbilliards536 awesome thanks for the info!
Is the tip size a pyramid cue bigger than a american pool cue tip
Nope, same 12-13mm tips are used, mostly 13mm. Actually many pyramid players always used original pool tips, because no others were available and actually they were great, just keep in mind that with such powerful shots hard tip would last longer, so there is a trend for hard tips these days among pyramid players.
@@pyramidbilliards536 what about weight then because most pool cues range between 16 and 21 ounces,what is weight range for pyramid cues then
@@tristanplays7377 Yeah, weight differs dramatically - 23 to 26 ounces (650-730 grams), with most popular about 25 (700 grams). Interesting fact is that in pool cue/ball weight ratio is still far higher than in pyramid: 3.3 vs 2.5.
@@pyramidbilliards536 thats really heavy for a pool cue because when you're shooting it feels like if you have a masse cue in your hands and for me who im used to a 19,75 ounce cue,it does take alot of time to get used to because of that extreme weight difference
Don't know about the 2 for 1 rule. You just get to pick a ball up? The explanation is much appreciated
In free pyramid (where any ball can be used as a cue ball) you just continue play as is.
But here we have single cue ball game, so cue ball must be respotted after being potted. In pyramid traditionally potted balls are put on the ball rack to track score in the current frame - each player has his own rack. So object ball and some other ball have to be put onto the rack. Since we can't put the cue ball there - the rule is to choose any other ball to be taken off the table and respot the cue ball.
There are several variations of pyramid rules for all occasions here (I don't remember which is which regarding the official game name): the scored player chooses the ball to take off the table or his opponent makes the choice, the cue ball is respotted in the house and can be potted on the next shot or it can be respotted anywhere on the table, but can't be potted on the next shot.
@@pyramidbilliards536 that makes sense!
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Better name for this video is COREY DEUEL TRYING TO PLAY RUSSIAN PYRAMID :) LOL
That bank by Deuel at 25:28 is nice
That’s a kick shot
It seems like a very challenging game. I may have a talent for it since I scratch all the time hahaha
are there any tables in the Houston Texas area?
What happens if you get the ob and the cb in on the same shot? Just 2 points or is there something else?
Edit: just saw this at 26:11 looks like it's just 2 points.
2 points and of course you play from home
Maddening
Tossing balls around for an hour with no real purpose other than pray for an easy ball close to the pocket. No wonder this game is played in three countries max.
Cant be the only that got a headache watching this
Great commentator
who's here after watching Khabib interview with BT?
This is hilarious 😆
Are there any players who are actually good at this game?
You know it’s a boring game when you’re yawning even with it sped up!!🤣 You did a great job explaining it though.
Try to watch some pro tournaments. Actually they are way more exciting and satisfying to watch then pool or snooker matches.
It’s not a carrom, rather in off
Billiards players would HAVE to be good at this game!
Games boring
@@teddyhaynes9876 Billiards or Russian Pyramid?
Also, why can they pick up and move a white ball into a pocket in the middle of their time at the table?
If carom is scored and cue ball is potted it is respotted and instead one other ball is put into pocket to keep number of balls on the table the same.
@@pyramidbilliards536 ohhhhh okay. But they can choose which ball to move
@@shayne.7770 Different rulesets exists - either player or his opponent chooses the ball to remove. Usually the opponent makes the choice to keep the game harder.
*FRED GORST A RUSSIAN WAS THERE AND AFRAID TO PLAY RUSSIAN PYRAMID, SAME FOR SVB. ONLY COREY HAD BALLS TO PLAY, KUDOS!*
I'll stick with eight ball
Not for me, I’ll take pool and snooker
Combined pyramid resembles English billiards
Screw this game. This is pool hell
Where is russian pyramid
Big balls
this game is ridiculous lol
Может home area, а не house? 6:20
Baulk Area тоже подойдёт
Jazz sounds like noise to me.
Poor sportsmanship by Yanovsky by calling those fouls?
Can't say for sure from the video alone. If in doubt - consult the referee and they attempted that after the first episode, but seems couldn't find one, so decided to play using these rules.
Actually Yanovsky also made safety foul later in the game and gave the ball to Deuel. So I guess - they just decided to use some specific ruleset and later both adhered to it. This might have given Yanovsky a bit of advantage, since Deuel is not used to more complex Buffalo safety rules (very few players are), but I don't think this was a deliberate action from Vlad.
Since usually players hit very hard - even in case of the miss balls just make all required contacts on their own and few people pay attention if they didn't. The only exception are specific safeties when player wants to leave the ball touching the cushion and everybody watches if the ball will make the contact or not.
Why, just why?
This Is the most negative stupid cue sport game I have ever had the dis pleasure of viewing.
music and commentary's gotta go
Even in Russian pool, Cory won’t hit em hard
Ah so the Russian cheated. Rocky was right lol
snore. snore..just play russian roullete
😴
Without the dreadful music please