Consciousness does all of existence all at once, as one whilst simultaneously doing it at one at a time, because of it's/our/my non-dual nature. So while the Consciousness I am is also the beating of the heart, it hides that from the limited thinking mind I/we also manifested as and identified with. That's maybe why some 'things' feel deterministic and some feel freely chosen.
In the province of Alberta, we call those gambling devices Video Lottery Terminals or VLTs. I don’t play them, but I hear some players saying “I feel the VLT is about to pay out.” Other gamblers watch the VLTs and play the one that hasn’t paid out for a while. Both strategies are doomed to fail as you cannot know when a VLT is going to pay out.
Free will has never made any sense to me. Any decision that gets influenced, be it by rational thought or natural forces, can't be regarded as a decision that was produced by free will. An influenced decision is guided, there is a logical path that leads from the set of possible choices to the eventual outcome. This kind of logical explanation rules out the interference of free will. It looks like the only possibility that is left for free will to exist, lies in decisions where rationale and logic are absent. I can only think of one instance that fits this description and that is complete randomness. So if free will is necessarily dependent on complete randomness, and if free will exists, that would mean that we should observe this randomness in our lives at every moment. Our days should be filled with completely random decisions, and there should be chaos all over the place. We should experience a state of affairs that is completely disrupting to any form of organized society. Yet this is not what we observe in reality. Some people would argue, well, that's not really what we mean by free will. And I get that. I am a hard determinist, so to me, as far as I can make sense of things, all of reality is predetermined. That means that I observe that reality behaves in a way that seems to follow certain logical or natural laws. A common misunderstanding about this is that some people think that this means that we should be able to predict what is going to happen in the future. However this is not true: completely deterministic systems or functions can be absolutely unpredictable. If you are interested how this is possible, just google determinism vs predictability or ask ChatGPT to delve a bit deeper into this. Or ask Steven Wolfram when you see him. So the only way to know what is going to happen in a unpredictable deterministic system, is to go through it step by step. What this means for reality and for the life that we live, is that we can only be certain of the here and now. If you want to know what is going to happen in the future, there is really only one thing you can do to be absolutely certain: wait and see. That does not mean that the future is not computable, it just means that the fastest way to calculate the result is to let it play out. You can easily see that the unpredictability of a deterministic system could lead us to believe that there is such a thing as free will. But what it actually comes down to is the unpredictable part: if you want to call that free will, be my guest. Just know that this kind of free will is deterministic and the choice that you make isn't really a choice: it is the only outcome that was ever possible in the first place. I just discovered your channel. Very thought provoking videos. I'm subscribed.
Where do ideas come from ? Can they be predicted ? That is enough of the question. The best answer is, some of them can, and some of them cannot. This is the extent of our knowledge. However, nobody is really putting any effort into studying it. For starters, I would want a large set of examples from a society such as ours, and for comparison a large set of people from outside of our societal influences such as our perception of time, and history and way of thought. It would be a tedious enough study, without even approaching the question of causation, and that has to be viewed with ALL possibilities that may be completely unknown. A fresh study. But yes, if Dali paints elephants, and Homer paints row boats, those are ideas they decided to pursue with interest, that were previously predicted for them. On the day Ethan Crumbley saw demons,...that idea was right there on the map of consciousness for that precise day. We need the larger study, and having data is the only way to do it. Receivers, or people,...act on ideas, and some of those ideas are on an existing map we have, and have had for thousands of years, way before astronomy, astrology, or psychology. Did Histidine come into physical form, as a result of the same process ? That is highly likely. The function and sequence of the amino acids, mirror another set of recorded timing of ideas. A map of consciousness, or a map of the schedule of ideas. The available data is larger than it ever has been, now that we have computers,...so it is easy to verify the older information, but getting to a place where we can actually ask about causation is where we should be focusing. Right now it is or at least seems to be futile, or irrelevant. Events like Crumbley, due to the precise data, can be viewed by the public and compared to established models. The best model is the 260 day calendar of consciousness, and it was precisely 260 days ,...from the time "he got the idea" to the time he acted on it, when that "idea flavor" returned. That is the kind of data needed. We need to isolate the percentage of ideas , by types, into categories , and use basic science with an open mind..
A simple direct experience like the coffee you like to taste in that row “reality” has sooo much thought behind it, so many minds involved which have made it possible!!! There is no coffee without the human mind that imagined it, materialized it, and perfected it. And not just the coffee.beans, but the cup or glass you drink it from, and the coffee maker that you use, the shop you get it from, and the culture that exposed you to its acquired taste. The complexity of being able to enjoy just a simple cup of coffee is so staggering, that I cannot believe you think that reality is tasting it, but the thoughts that have made the experience possible are not real. And that's just a simple cup of coffee. Let's not even talk about the technology everybody is using here. So maybe before considering free will we need to assess what we call “reality”.
Unfortunately climate change and war will ruin your daughter's future. She has nothing to look forward to. We're 90 seconds to midnight. Sorry, seem like a smart and nice man.
Very interesting thankyou
Consciousness does all of existence all at once, as one whilst simultaneously doing it at one at a time, because of it's/our/my non-dual nature.
So while the Consciousness I am is also the beating of the heart, it hides that from the limited thinking mind I/we also manifested as and identified with.
That's maybe why some 'things' feel deterministic and some feel freely chosen.
Robert Sapolsky has a great new book about this “Determined a life without free will “
In the province of Alberta, we call those gambling devices Video Lottery Terminals or VLTs. I don’t play them, but I hear some players saying “I feel the VLT is about to pay out.” Other gamblers watch the VLTs and play the one that hasn’t paid out for a while. Both strategies are doomed to fail as you cannot know when a VLT is going to pay out.
Free will has never made any sense to me.
Any decision that gets influenced, be it by rational thought or natural forces, can't be regarded as a decision that was produced by free will. An influenced decision is guided, there is a logical path that leads from the set of possible choices to the eventual outcome. This kind of logical explanation rules out the interference of free will.
It looks like the only possibility that is left for free will to exist, lies in decisions where rationale and logic are absent. I can only think of one instance that fits this description and that is complete randomness.
So if free will is necessarily dependent on complete randomness, and if free will exists, that would mean that we should observe this randomness in our lives at every moment. Our days should be filled with completely random decisions, and there should be chaos all over the place. We should experience a state of affairs that is completely disrupting to any form of organized society. Yet this is not what we observe in reality.
Some people would argue, well, that's not really what we mean by free will. And I get that.
I am a hard determinist, so to me, as far as I can make sense of things, all of reality is predetermined. That means that I observe that reality behaves in a way that seems to follow certain logical or natural laws.
A common misunderstanding about this is that some people think that this means that we should be able to predict what is going to happen in the future. However this is not true: completely deterministic systems or functions can be absolutely unpredictable. If you are interested how this is possible, just google determinism vs predictability or ask ChatGPT to delve a bit deeper into this. Or ask Steven Wolfram when you see him.
So the only way to know what is going to happen in a unpredictable deterministic system, is to go through it step by step. What this means for reality and for the life that we live, is that we can only be certain of the here and now. If you want to know what is going to happen in the future, there is really only one thing you can do to be absolutely certain: wait and see. That does not mean that the future is not computable, it just means that the fastest way to calculate the result is to let it play out.
You can easily see that the unpredictability of a deterministic system could lead us to believe that there is such a thing as free will. But what it actually comes down to is the unpredictable part: if you want to call that free will, be my guest. Just know that this kind of free will is deterministic and the choice that you make isn't really a choice: it is the only outcome that was ever possible in the first place.
I just discovered your channel. Very thought provoking videos. I'm subscribed.
Where do ideas come from ? Can they be predicted ? That is enough of the question. The best answer is, some of them can, and some of them cannot. This is the extent of our knowledge. However, nobody is really putting any effort into studying it. For starters, I would want a large set of examples from a society such as ours, and for comparison a large set of people from outside of our societal influences such as our perception of time, and history and way of thought.
It would be a tedious enough study, without even approaching the question of causation, and that has to be viewed with ALL possibilities that may be completely unknown. A fresh study. But yes, if Dali paints elephants, and Homer paints row boats, those are ideas they decided to pursue with interest, that were previously predicted for them. On the day Ethan Crumbley saw demons,...that idea was right there on the map of consciousness for that precise day.
We need the larger study, and having data is the only way to do it. Receivers, or people,...act on ideas, and some of those ideas are on an existing map we have, and have had for thousands of years, way before astronomy, astrology, or psychology. Did Histidine come into physical form, as a result of the same process ?
That is highly likely. The function and sequence of the amino acids, mirror another set of recorded timing of ideas. A map of consciousness, or a map of the schedule of ideas. The available data is larger than it ever has been, now that we have computers,...so it is easy to verify the older information, but getting to a place where we can actually ask about causation is where we should be focusing. Right now it is or at least seems to be futile, or irrelevant.
Events like Crumbley, due to the precise data, can be viewed by the public and compared to established models. The best model is the 260 day calendar of consciousness, and it was precisely 260 days ,...from the time "he got the idea" to the time he acted on it, when that "idea flavor" returned. That is the kind of data needed. We need to isolate the percentage of ideas , by types, into categories , and use basic science with an open mind..
A simple direct experience like the coffee you like to taste in that row “reality” has sooo much thought behind it, so many minds involved which have made it possible!!! There is no coffee without the human mind that imagined it, materialized it, and perfected it. And not just the coffee.beans, but the cup or glass you drink it from, and the coffee maker that you use, the shop you get it from, and the culture that exposed you to its acquired taste. The complexity of being able to enjoy just a simple cup of coffee is so staggering, that I cannot believe you think that reality is tasting it, but the thoughts that have made the experience possible are not real. And that's just a simple cup of coffee. Let's not even talk about the technology everybody is using here. So maybe before considering free will we need to assess what we call “reality”.
What is reality? What is coffee? I do want coffee now! 😁
@@Nothining Exactly. The fulfillment of that which you want is reality.
If I do not have free will, does that mean I am not responsible for my actions in the past?
Depends on what is meant by I and responsibility
@@chris5264 "i" is "an ordinary person in the street, "responsibility" are "social rules like law and order and filial piety".
Unfortunately climate change and war will ruin your daughter's future. She has nothing to look forward to. We're 90 seconds to midnight. Sorry, seem like a smart and nice man.