So the zoMBie is a Mesa Boogie (Dual Rec?) The Vivo (numerals) is a 5150 The JaCkMan is a JCM The MeteOR is the OR series from Orange The AtomiC is an AC series from Vox and the BlueJay is a Blues Jr.? They all actually sound pretty good, considering getting one to use a practices
@@wea69420 Henning pauly worked on the design of these...some clever naming including the main name Bantam (small strong chicken) and addng the P to make the last part represent amp...also the word looks symmetrical
I grabbed a Zombie, I also have a Mesa 2:90 with the Rectifier rackmount preamp. The only different in the sound are details that could be eq'ed. Pretty amazing, and I'm actually using it on the next tour with a 2x12, instead of a huge rack with 4x12's. Waiting for the WTF factors when people realize we are using lunchboxes for amps and getting as good of sound than everyone else.
@@chrisgamez9778 With a mic and PA, why not? On the other hand, outdoor venues usually require a lot more volume than indoor ones so, how big an area and to how many people? If you can't do the venue using a fender blues junior, this won't cut it either.
Vivo had a really nasty fizz during the heavy riff. Definitely preferred the others in that one. Jackman won for me during the crunch riff, with the Meteor being a close second. Zombie won for cleans. Meteor seems like a good all around one.
Now we need a Sunn Model T, Fryette, VHT, Sovtek MIG, Diezel VH4, Marshall 8100, and Matamp GT120 clone and everyone will have no choice but to sound amazing
I think the ones I enjoy the most are the Zombie and the Meteor. They seem to handle both rhythm and lead tones very well. I feel like a lot of the other amps seem to fall in one of the other. While one would do well with leads, it would not sound too great for rhythm, and vice versa.
@@glowskullsmedia1499 doesn't sound bad with a boost or running a wampler dracarys through the clean side. I would assume it sounds thin since it's a tube pre amp with a class D power section might make it sound thin. For the price and the fact I'm a bass player I like mine sounds better then what me and my friends had in my teens (mostly line 6 spyder 2s and one friend had a Randall half stack which was the king of tone for us then)
I speak as the owner of a Zombie and a VIVO. Zombie: You have to put an OD in front. Every time you palm mute, you hear this washy low end rumble that waters everything down. Once you've done that, it tightens up, and sounds fantastic, a very pleasing saturation with an scooped sound, even after hitting it with the OD. You can crack the gain up and it won't get much noisy, I've played it without a noise gate and is manageable at low volumes. VIVO: First thing that you think when you plug it in is: Is it broken?? That's what I thought anyways. The background hiss after turning the gain past 9 o'clock is way, waaaaaaaaaayy too much. I googled some peoples reviews about the VIVO and apparently, JOYO made it that way. But, the distortion of the mid-range is awesome, barky but saturated at the same time. If you keep the gain at 9 o'clock and/or putting an OD in front and you will cut through any band. And a noise gate, get a noise gate please, you'll thank me later. I'm looking for the Meteor now, seems to me like the good all-rounder.
Hey Ryan, I just got the zombie and I'm trying to get it to sing the way I want. I have a wampler plexi drive and a tunmus that I can put in front of it but I'm not sure how to dial it in. I tried using the Tunmus (Klon clone) but when I do I lose my bass and the mids go through the roof. Any help would be appreciated.
One thing I discovered with the zombie and VIVO is the volume knob has a major influence on the tone. Just like most guitar players, they don't wake up until noon. Even at 20w through a 1x12 it will piss off your neighbors.
I was thinking of that and using a Little Black Box to control the volume from the back so I can max the volume. Also the volume knob wont be as sensitive.
Late to the game with finding this video, sorry for that. And sorry for what is going to be a loooong post.. But, thank you for making this video. I think you might have just saved me from making a poor purchase... Most other Bantamp reviews that I've seen seem to show off the intended sound profiles for the amps (djent on the Zombie, Crunch on the Jackman etc.. which is great but..). I've not seen the clean channels a/b'ed as a straight out comparison before. And I'm glad that you have. I was ready to go get the BlueJay because it seemed to be the only amp in the series that had nice gritty cleans (other reviewers tend to skip over or ignore the cleans on the other bantamps, only showing off the cleans on the Bluejay). Thanks to this video- I now hear that all of them have really good cleans, and to my ears the Meteor has the best gritty clean of them all. Trying these amps out for myself is a bit of a headache, the only store near me that has them is an hour away, and they usually only have the Zombie in store, but can 'order the others in'. Anyway, seems that I'm going to have to ask them to order in the Meteor, instead of the Bluejay that I thought I wanted. I didn't think that Brit Grit would sound better than American Sparkle, but, it seems to my ears- it does. So thanks again for this video. And sorry to the 'real thing' Orange Micro's, the Bantamp appears to have a fantastic clean channel, bluetooth aux in, and an effects loop, (best features of both the Terror and the Dark), and the Bantamp is cheaper (NZ$240 vs $320). Also sorry to the 'real thing' Blues Jr, price is.. no joke.. over NZ$1000 cheaper ($1299 for the Fender)- dollar conversion USD to NZD, plus shipping, plus store mark up, so yeah, in New Zealand, Fender Gibson and others are nearly DOUBLE the USA price 🙁 So.. Looks like I'll be getting the Meteor 😀
@@kedduff1814 so yeah, I did end up getting the Meteor, and WOW! Fantastic amp, also, a LOT louder than expected (in a decent cab, I reckon it would be totally gig worthy in a small club/pub). The clean channel is my favourite. Kedean, my best advice is go with your ears, and grab that VIVO! I found a sound that my ears liked, and for me, it's perfect. Good luck...
I've been using the Zombie for apartment volume practice since it came out... only complaint is that its actually too loud lol. Currently running it on the clean channel with a dirt pedal out front in an effort to tame the beast. 10/10 would recommend.
Sure, mate. The ZoMBie is more based on a MESA/Boogie Duel Rectifier. That might suit you better. The VIVO is based on the EVH/Peavy 5150, which is more geared towards modern thrash, etc. 👍
Even though I love heavy riffs, the JaCkMan just sounds more natural for me, it sounds so.... I don't know it sounds really fine like not medium fine but super fine, like wood kind of fine. The sound is just smooth all around for me in terms of balance, I think I might be getting the JCM Bantamp instead.
I own the Zombie and a Triple Rectifier. Get an EQ Pedal and the Harley Benton 112 V30 cab and you can get a Joyo 10 band EQ pedal and dial in the perfect mesa tone at home for a fraction of the price. I love the Zombie II.
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For under $200 you get a lot bang for your buck. I wish all comparison videos were done this way. It would’ve been nice to know details like what cabinet it was running through etc., but having the same thing played over and over again seamlessly between each amp where you can clearly hear each difference is so helpful. I hate comparisons where they play the amp and there’s a huge break and then they play the next amp and the sounds are too far apart where you can hear it but not direct difference like they had in this video.
The Jackman is the one to get as it was more balanced, natural sounding and better dynamic range. The Meteor is decent, but the Orange micro dark is better at that kind of tone in every way. Despite Zombie is the more popular model, I found it unnatural and like some signal in the bass had been cut out, a pedal or even modeller does a better characterization of Mesa than this does. So the Bluejay is dissapointing as well. I believe they got it wrong by fitting 12ax7 tubes in all models, it just doesn't sounded right for some of the models.
Anybody open there's up? I just got one and was peering thru the grill on the tube cover with a flash light and there's cutouts for 2 more tubes in the top plate of the base 🤔
That was a truly excellent comparison video. I have the Blue Jay which has just enough crunch to give chords some depth. In many ways it is similar to my Marshall Origin 50 on the mid power setting. I can also slip the Bluejay into a gig bag incase a tube should blow on the Marshall. It makes a great back up amp. If I need more output I can feed off to the PA
How well does it handle the fx loops? Or even pedals in general? I don’t play much hard metal or distorted music in my band mostly reggae rock etc. clean delays and reverbs etc.
This is how every shoot out demo should be made. Same riff across each bit of gear same tweeks of the knobs and very little talking. Excellent job, def gonna pick up a joyo. Question which cab did you mic or was this a direct out to record?
Hello. Can the BantAmp be used without connection to the speaker output and without connection to the headphone output at the same time, without harming the amplifier? Would the amplifier suffer some kind of damage at the moment or in the long run? I want to output the signal through the amplifier send to an audio interface to record the signal without cabinet emulation so that I can use my custom impulse responses, and at the same time I don't want to have headphones and/or speakers connected for a while, can this be done without damaging the amplifier? Thank you
I started to visualize a Joyo monster amp where you'd have all 5 in one OD channel and you could blend all of them together as you please... A HUGE, 100w lunchbox amp. :P And maybe the bluejay normal / bright as the clean channel. If I'd win in the lottery I'd pay to see this done.
If you haven't seen their insane DualKlonz amp, it's kinda like the tube amp version of what you want, as it has three different tube pre-amp sections for different voicings and the ability to change different power tubes (12ax7, 6l6, el84 and 34 options to further tweak the sound). It's not cheap though, as one would imagine from such a complicated setup, but it's certainly really fucking cool.
Based on what I can hear off the internet 1. Is Zombie has all the punch you need to get as heavy as needed with clarity. 2. Meteor for Classic rock. 3. ? The rest didn't have enough separated itself with gain. Not sure if any of the cleans excite me more than the concept itself. The Bluejay 'should' be good for it but hard to decide from this. Byway GREAT demo. A little bit of everything without talking.
1) Zombie 2) Meteor 3) Jackman Too bad that for a sample of sound for Jackman they've used something like JCM 900, instead of my favorite 800, but still very good on crunch. Vivo, Atomic and Bluejay have some strange artificial harmonics in mid-high range
For me (price and stock wise) the choice was between the: Atomic Bluejay (did not have 2 channels) Meteor From listening to your very helpful video I just ordered the Meteor.
You could run the headphone output of the Joyo into the Aux input of the Marshall, but you still need to have some sort of volume control into the Marshall, if it does have an Aux Input, because the volume control on any Aux input is not controlled by the receiving amp but by the sending signal unit, which in this case is the Joyo.
Meteor sounds the best for metal. The zombie sounds like my cheap solid state amp with my cheap distortion pedal. I'm not saying it sounds bad, I'm just saying that it doesn't sound much like a hybrid amp compared to the other models. And the clean sounded abysmal so no way it's gonna sound good with a drive pedal. Btw this was a really helpful video, good job!
My pedal board has Wampler Pedals. Tumnus (klon), Plexi-Drive Deluxe (JCM), Something 30 (VOX), and a CataPulp (Orange). Also AmpTweaker Big Rock Pro (Soldano SLO/5150), Amptweaker Tight Drive Pro (Tube Screamer on Angel Dust), As well as an Empress HEAVY (MESA). I know It's Sick. That being said. I would have to roll with two Blue Birds In with a TC Electronic MIMIQ in stereo though the Front f the Amps. Excellent pedal platform amp, with a good clean channel, and way better than average effects loop. Hmmm? The Blue Birds Would actually cost less than any of the dirt pedals.
it's funny. I have the Atomic. I don't think I have ever had that amount of gain. I'll have to plug it in again and test it out (I was thinking that anyways)
An updated video with the Firebrand would be helpful. For what Ive heard, I think Id want the clean channel of the Meteor and the gain channel of the Firebrand. It seems if you dig the JCM800, the Jackman is by far the best copy, but if you dont(I dont), overall tone and versatility goes to the Meteor. The zombie has some scorching gain, but its scooped like a ditch.
My favorites were the Vivo and the Meteor, sounded the most versatile to me The Zombie was very heavy, but I'm not a Mesa guy... the Jackman sounded disappointing, too scooped for me the Bluejay is the least versatile the Atomic was my least favorite
Which one would be good for 7, 8, and 9 string guitar tones? I got a peavey vip 2 that is not cutting it for me. I also have the precision drive pedal. And it helps but not what I'm going for. My 7 string has factory legator pickups, and my 8 string has blackouts abh1 pickups. I'm really sorry for saying this but... it doesn't djent the way I want it to. 😓
@@donovanolguin977 no. I have them over half. I switch between 9 o'clock and 7 o'clock . And yes I have almost no idea what I'm doing. I'm doing it all by myself. So help would be appreciated. But I got some money and now I'm getting the zombie for sure. But i don't know of i should get a 1x12 with a v30 or a 2x12 with i don't know what speakers. Both harley Benton. And there is no waiting to save money because I'm still paying for a $6000 csection bill and around April 2019 I'll have another $6000 csection bill.(baby number 2). On top of paying for a $130,000 house and a $10,00 truck that will be done in less than a year. Sorry for the speech but just wanted you to get the whole details. Input would still be appreciated. Thanks in advance!
@@donovanolguin977 also I am using a precision drive pedal with the guitars. Into a dumb peavey vip 2 (2nd gen) that I thought was awesome at first but now I don't care for it.
@@AaronMorgan666 i would prefer the harley benton 2x12 becuase •pushes more air •better power rating •both speakers are celestion vintage 30s Also is only 137 usd thomann The last time i cheaked
Any chance of doing the same type of demo with all the hotone mini heads? That would be awesome! The hotone mini heads I heard sound amazing but there are not many demos of the new models. I'd love to hear more of the Hotone Eagle's Heart which is based on a ENGL Savage. I haven't found a decent demo of that amp yet.
Which one do you think gets closest to the darker, fuzzier Marshall Silver Jubilee tones like around 5:45 in this video? From what I've heard online it almost sounds like the Orange-based Meteor gets closer than the Marshall-based Jackman (and I sometimes do think the Jubilee is closer to Oranges than Marshalls - like the Jubilee is almost like a clearer, less muddy Orange). Would anyone else, especially someone who has heard them in person, agree that the Meteor might be closer to the Jubilee tones or am I hearing things? Thanks for any input! ua-cam.com/video/eNpCIqV0zO8/v-deo.html
You should have played them with the drive on without other pedals in the chain. This way you played the nuance in the gain knob is lost. I don't have a clue if I can play a blues on the zombie without an extra softer pedal.
Don’t know how you’re getting these so bright. I’ve tried two so far and both are still lacking even with the tone all the way over to the right. And the Jackman I tried didn’t nearly have as much gain as ‘yours’...?
I ghot the AtomiC, this litle thing become verry fast the go to amp to practice and just noodll around . Easy to dial in a tone start You Tube whit a backing track and go, and it eats padels for dinner
So the zoMBie is a Mesa Boogie (Dual Rec?)
The Vivo (numerals) is a 5150
The JaCkMan is a JCM
The MeteOR is the OR series from Orange
The AtomiC is an AC series from Vox
and the BlueJay is a Blues Jr.?
They all actually sound pretty good, considering getting one to use a practices
Sidetrax very cool stuff right here.. i would love to grab a zombie, vivo, or meteor.. those 3 sounded pretty nice to meh! 🤘🏻😜
Wow so brillaint
BlueJay is for Jazz and Blues
Just bought one Zombie. Pretty satisfied and good enough for a bedroom player
@@ahmadfarisrosli7597 does it sound good at low volumes? During the evening or night i cant pass the tv volume, so is it good for that use?
Gotta say, out of all of them the Vivo is the most cleverly named.
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Took me a while to notice it was a 5150
@@wea69420 Henning pauly worked on the design of these...some clever naming including the main name
Bantam (small strong chicken) and addng the P to make the last part represent amp...also the word looks symmetrical
Jack off man
the scheme is all the same , the frequency correction different.. and-price...
Also the best sounding
I grabbed a Zombie, I also have a Mesa 2:90 with the Rectifier rackmount preamp. The only different in the sound are details that could be eq'ed. Pretty amazing, and I'm actually using it on the next tour with a 2x12, instead of a huge rack with 4x12's. Waiting for the WTF factors when people realize we are using lunchboxes for amps and getting as good of sound than everyone else.
so do you recommend this for playing shows at indoor venues?
@@chrisgamez9778 With a mic and PA, why not? On the other hand, outdoor venues usually require a lot more volume than indoor ones so, how big an area and to how many people? If you can't do the venue using a fender blues junior, this won't cut it either.
Stop being a wuss and play thru a full plexi stack lol..
@@nicolemichlovsky2505 plexi are heavy
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Great video! I appreciate that the same thing was played on all amps to accurately demonstrate them.
Vivo had a really nasty fizz during the heavy riff. Definitely preferred the others in that one. Jackman won for me during the crunch riff, with the Meteor being a close second. Zombie won for cleans. Meteor seems like a good all around one.
Zombies on cleans compress a lot and doesn't show clipping as the others did.
Now we need a Sunn Model T, Fryette, VHT, Sovtek MIG, Diezel VH4, Marshall 8100, and Matamp GT120 clone and everyone will have no choice but to sound amazing
Just got the Zombie and its killer man swapped the tube for a Tung Sol 12ax7 and it took the slight sizzle out it amazing the Vivo is next on the list
Tung sol is the best isn't it?
I think the ones I enjoy the most are the Zombie and the Meteor. They seem to handle both rhythm and lead tones very well. I feel like a lot of the other amps seem to fall in one of the other. While one would do well with leads, it would not sound too great for rhythm, and vice versa.
That Zombie is in my head...
BurnBackTime01 ahh i see what ya did there....
IN YOUR HEEEEAAAAADDDD
sounds good but so thin
@@glowskullsmedia1499 doesn't sound bad with a boost or running a wampler dracarys through the clean side. I would assume it sounds thin since it's a tube pre amp with a class D power section might make it sound thin. For the price and the fact I'm a bass player I like mine sounds better then what me and my friends had in my teens (mostly line 6 spyder 2s and one friend had a Randall half stack which was the king of tone for us then)
@@mctwishvonnoodles9793 zombieee zombieee zombieee bieee hooowoohoo
I speak as the owner of a Zombie and a VIVO.
Zombie: You have to put an OD in front. Every time you palm mute, you hear this washy low end rumble that waters everything down. Once you've done that, it tightens up, and sounds fantastic, a very pleasing saturation with an scooped sound, even after hitting it with the OD. You can crack the gain up and it won't get much noisy, I've played it without a noise gate and is manageable at low volumes.
VIVO: First thing that you think when you plug it in is: Is it broken?? That's what I thought anyways. The background hiss after turning the gain past 9 o'clock is way, waaaaaaaaaayy too much. I googled some peoples reviews about the VIVO and apparently, JOYO made it that way. But, the distortion of the mid-range is awesome, barky but saturated at the same time. If you keep the gain at 9 o'clock and/or putting an OD in front and you will cut through any band. And a noise gate, get a noise gate please, you'll thank me later.
I'm looking for the Meteor now, seems to me like the good all-rounder.
Hey Ryan, I just got the zombie and I'm trying to get it to sing the way I want. I have a wampler plexi drive and a tunmus that I can put in front of it but I'm not sure how to dial it in. I tried using the Tunmus (Klon clone) but when I do I lose my bass and the mids go through the roof. Any help would be appreciated.
The vivo has a constant cocked wah sound. Nicht so gut. I would just go bluejay and use pedals.
Heavy: Zombie
Crunch: Jackman
Clean: Bluejay (Bright channel)
This was great, thank you for letting me compare them all in one video. I'm considering a meteor or jackman now.
Great video. Funny intro. Would like to hear your thoughts on each one. Hopefully there is a part 2!
Zombie and meteor for the heavy riff, meteor for crunch, vivo for clean were my favs
One thing I discovered with the zombie and VIVO is the volume knob has a major influence on the tone. Just like most guitar players, they don't wake up until noon. Even at 20w through a 1x12 it will piss off your neighbors.
I was thinking of that and using a Little Black Box to control the volume from the back so I can max the volume. Also the volume knob wont be as sensitive.
I have the Zombie. Hook up a Attenuator and an EQ pedal in the FX loop and it's killer. I think I'm gonna snag a VIVO next. :)
Late to the game with finding this video, sorry for that. And sorry for what is going to be a loooong post.. But, thank you for making this video. I think you might have just saved me from making a poor purchase... Most other Bantamp reviews that I've seen seem to show off the intended sound profiles for the amps (djent on the Zombie, Crunch on the Jackman etc.. which is great but..). I've not seen the clean channels a/b'ed as a straight out comparison before. And I'm glad that you have.
I was ready to go get the BlueJay because it seemed to be the only amp in the series that had nice gritty cleans (other reviewers tend to skip over or ignore the cleans on the other bantamps, only showing off the cleans on the Bluejay). Thanks to this video- I now hear that all of them have really good cleans, and to my ears the Meteor has the best gritty clean of them all.
Trying these amps out for myself is a bit of a headache, the only store near me that has them is an hour away, and they usually only have the Zombie in store, but can 'order the others in'. Anyway, seems that I'm going to have to ask them to order in the Meteor, instead of the Bluejay that I thought I wanted.
I didn't think that Brit Grit would sound better than American Sparkle, but, it seems to my ears- it does.
So thanks again for this video. And sorry to the 'real thing' Orange Micro's, the Bantamp appears to have a fantastic clean channel, bluetooth aux in, and an effects loop, (best features of both the Terror and the Dark), and the Bantamp is cheaper (NZ$240 vs $320). Also sorry to the 'real thing' Blues Jr, price is.. no joke.. over NZ$1000 cheaper ($1299 for the Fender)- dollar conversion USD to NZD, plus shipping, plus store mark up, so yeah, in New Zealand, Fender Gibson and others are nearly DOUBLE the USA price 🙁
So.. Looks like I'll be getting the Meteor 😀
Marcus Fellas that meteor on clean did sound really nice, but I liked the Vivo on OD... tough choice should I just get both?
@@kedduff1814 so yeah, I did end up getting the Meteor, and WOW! Fantastic amp, also, a LOT louder than expected (in a decent cab, I reckon it would be totally gig worthy in a small club/pub). The clean channel is my favourite. Kedean, my best advice is go with your ears, and grab that VIVO! I found a sound that my ears liked, and for me, it's perfect. Good luck...
I've been using the Zombie for apartment volume practice since it came out... only complaint is that its actually too loud lol. Currently running it on the clean channel with a dirt pedal out front in an effort to tame the beast. 10/10 would recommend.
shellbournian nice!
Just throw a volume pedal in the fx loop and you're good to go. 😉
Love the ZoMBie and VIVO.
My go-to practice amps. 👍
could you describe the difference between them? I mainly playing old-school death metal like Death, At the Gates, etc. Thanks.
Sure, mate. The ZoMBie is more based on a MESA/Boogie Duel Rectifier. That might suit you better. The VIVO is based on the EVH/Peavy 5150, which is more geared towards modern thrash, etc. 👍
@@matdemaz the Zombie sounds like a mashup of the Dual Rectifier and the Mark series.
Even though I love heavy riffs, the JaCkMan just sounds more natural for me, it sounds so.... I don't know it sounds really fine like not medium fine but super fine, like wood kind of fine. The sound is just smooth all around for me in terms of balance, I think I might be getting the JCM Bantamp instead.
I like the VIVO the best. Second choice might be the Meteor.
For me it's the Zombie and Meteor. I bought both of them, they form an amazing cheap stereo rig!
Corte very cool! Yeah i like the zombie and meteor as well.. vivo was alright too!
Yeah I agree! I think by itself it's as good as the meteor/zombie, but it would be kind of muddy when used with a second amp or guitar player
Corte did you plug them both into a cab at the same time? I'm a noob it's a serious question...
How its going on that rig? Now I'm dreaming with something like that hahaha
That's basically exactly what I'm going for but I already have an AC15 so I'm gonna stereo it with a zombie (or jackman, not sure yet).
Greatest gear vid intro EVERR.
Just ordered a Meteor. Cant wait.
I own the Zombie and a Triple Rectifier.
Get an EQ Pedal and the Harley Benton 112 V30 cab and you can get a Joyo 10 band EQ pedal and dial in the perfect mesa tone at home for a fraction of the price. I love the Zombie II.
Awww thanks T⚡️X you solved my dilemma BROCEPHUS ☮️ My Brain was starting to hurt trying to figure out which to buy! You Rock Mis Amigo! Thanks ✌️😎🤙🎸⚡️🎸🇨🇦 they all sound decent eh🇨🇦CHUGGA CHUGGA Dude🎸🥁🎸
For under $200 you get a lot bang for your buck. I wish all comparison videos were done this way. It would’ve been nice to know details like what cabinet it was running through etc., but having the same thing played over and over again seamlessly between each amp where you can clearly hear each difference is so helpful. I hate comparisons where they play the amp and there’s a huge break and then they play the next amp and the sounds are too far apart where you can hear it but not direct difference like they had in this video.
Thats how you do a review
Meteor is the best clean sound and for guitar solo, zombie is the best for metal sound..🤘
In order... Zombie, meteor, jackman
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Meteor sounded great overdriven. Smoother more organic than the others.
The Jackman is the one to get as it was more balanced, natural sounding and better dynamic range.
The Meteor is decent, but the Orange micro dark is better at that kind of tone in every way.
Despite Zombie is the more popular model, I found it unnatural and like some signal in the bass had been cut out, a pedal or even modeller does a better characterization of Mesa than this does.
So the Bluejay is dissapointing as well.
I believe they got it wrong by fitting 12ax7 tubes in all models, it just doesn't sounded right for some of the models.
I have that shirt... and I must scream. Stay tech!
Stupid question but what are using for your Cab? is it an IR and how are you connecting it? Via the Speaker out or the FX Send/return?
That my question too
My picks are the meteOR and the zoMBie. I thought the other ones had too many faults in the sound of the OD. I guess the BlueJay is a good clean tone.
Anybody open there's up? I just got one and was peering thru the grill on the tube cover with a flash light and there's cutouts for 2 more tubes in the top plate of the base 🤔
That was a truly excellent comparison video. I have the Blue Jay which has just enough crunch to give chords some depth. In many ways it is similar to my Marshall Origin 50 on the mid power setting. I can also slip the Bluejay into a gig bag incase a tube should blow on the Marshall. It makes a great back up amp. If I need more output I can feed off to the PA
That vivo needs a cut at 4k switch lmao
How well does it handle the fx loops? Or even pedals in general? I don’t play much hard metal or distorted music in my band mostly reggae rock etc. clean delays and reverbs etc.
This is how every shoot out demo should be made. Same riff across each bit of gear same tweeks of the knobs and very little talking. Excellent job, def gonna pick up a joyo. Question which cab did you mic or was this a direct out to record?
meteor is sick i have one its crazy good.
Very, very informative. Thank You!
Hello. Can the BantAmp be used without connection to the speaker output and without connection to the headphone output at the same time, without harming the amplifier? Would the amplifier suffer some kind of damage at the moment or in the long run? I want to output the signal through the amplifier send to an audio interface to record the signal without cabinet emulation so that I can use my custom impulse responses, and at the same time I don't want to have headphones and/or speakers connected for a while, can this be done without damaging the amplifier? Thank you
I started to visualize a Joyo monster amp where you'd have all 5 in one OD channel and you could blend all of them together as you please... A HUGE, 100w lunchbox amp. :P
And maybe the bluejay normal / bright as the clean channel.
If I'd win in the lottery I'd pay to see this done.
If you haven't seen their insane DualKlonz amp, it's kinda like the tube amp version of what you want, as it has three different tube pre-amp sections for different voicings and the ability to change different power tubes (12ax7, 6l6, el84 and 34 options to further tweak the sound). It's not cheap though, as one would imagine from such a complicated setup, but it's certainly really fucking cool.
Awesome demo. \m/ I personally liked the heavy demo from the zombie and the meteor. the vivo and the jackman sounded pretty good too.
these all sound pretty sweet
Based on what I can hear off the internet 1. Is Zombie has all the punch you need to get as heavy as needed with clarity. 2. Meteor for Classic rock. 3. ? The rest didn't have enough separated itself with gain. Not sure if any of the cleans excite me more than the concept itself. The Bluejay 'should' be good for it but hard to decide from this. Byway GREAT demo. A little bit of everything without talking.
Why dont the clean examples sound clean?
I spent everything on my amp and still needed a noise gate. The Joyo Gate of Khan got it done! Good, inexpensive products.
1) Zombie 2) Meteor 3) Jackman
Too bad that for a sample of sound for Jackman they've used something like JCM 900, instead of my favorite 800, but still very good on crunch. Vivo, Atomic and Bluejay have some strange artificial harmonics in mid-high range
For me (price and stock wise) the choice was between the:
Atomic
Bluejay (did not have 2 channels)
Meteor
From listening to your very helpful video I just ordered the Meteor.
which one would be best if I'm using an hm-2 clone and going for a chainsaw tone?
Honestly I'd imagine any of them would be fine, most of the tone in that setup is coming from the hm2 clone
@@mfkrwill thanks.
The Zombie sounds really damn good. What's the pick-up that's being used?
Great test! Zombie the best.
Meteor for me
Best intro ever
Was this DI or recorded with mics? If mics, what mics? What cab? If DI, what loadbox/ IR did you use?
This is all pretty important stuff, c'mon guy.
IDK if they used it or not, but the headphone out on these beasts have speaker sim built direct into them.
Not that important in a comparison if they all use the same shit lmao.
I don’t have a cabinet speaker . Can I run it into my marshall solid state practice amp MG15 CF
You could run the headphone output of the Joyo into the Aux input of the Marshall, but you still need to have some sort of volume control into the Marshall, if it does have an Aux Input, because the volume control on any Aux input is not controlled by the receiving amp but by the sending signal unit, which in this case is the Joyo.
Totally love this shootout. This video made me want to buy a Joyo VIVO (But it was out of stock so I just got the Meteor instead) Hahahaha
Meteor sounds killer. Gotta have one...
i like them all
Meteor sounds the best for metal. The zombie sounds like my cheap solid state amp with my cheap distortion pedal. I'm not saying it sounds bad, I'm just saying that it doesn't sound much like a hybrid amp compared to the other models. And the clean sounded abysmal so no way it's gonna sound good with a drive pedal.
Btw this was a really helpful video, good job!
My pedal board has Wampler Pedals. Tumnus (klon), Plexi-Drive Deluxe (JCM), Something 30 (VOX), and a CataPulp (Orange). Also AmpTweaker Big Rock Pro (Soldano SLO/5150), Amptweaker Tight Drive Pro (Tube Screamer on Angel Dust), As well as an Empress HEAVY (MESA). I know It's Sick. That being said. I would have to roll with two Blue Birds In with a TC Electronic MIMIQ in stereo though the Front f the Amps. Excellent pedal platform amp, with a good clean channel, and way better than average effects loop. Hmmm? The Blue Birds Would actually cost less than any of the dirt pedals.
Som limpo = Bluejay
Drive = Zombie
Atomic has a very wet gain sound, that alone makes it my favorite. All of them sound awesome, I’ll take one of each.
it's funny. I have the Atomic. I don't think I have ever had that amount of gain. I'll have to plug it in again and test it out (I was thinking that anyways)
Any reason why on the clean sounds you are maxing the gain, but the volume never goes above 12 o'clock (if that)?
An updated video with the Firebrand would be helpful. For what Ive heard, I think Id want the clean channel of the Meteor and the gain channel of the Firebrand. It seems if you dig the JCM800, the Jackman is by far the best copy, but if you dont(I dont), overall tone and versatility goes to the Meteor. The zombie has some scorching gain, but its scooped like a ditch.
which one is better to play some nirvana, foo fighters, pearl jam, metallica?
the vivo sounds like is has great clarity, much nicer than the jackman which is a bit muddy
I like how he just seems to give up on the atomic
It’s a vox clone not really great for metal tones
since 6505 plus is not available in my country, is this a better option?
Thoughts on the mjolnir by joyo?
That Zombie gain knob didnt sound much different low to high...lol
My favorites were the Vivo and the Meteor, sounded the most versatile to me
The Zombie was very heavy, but I'm not a Mesa guy...
the Jackman sounded disappointing, too scooped for me
the Bluejay is the least versatile
the Atomic was my least favorite
Djentleman Goldbar I second that.
Which one would be good for 7, 8, and 9 string guitar tones? I got a peavey vip 2 that is not cutting it for me. I also have the precision drive pedal. And it helps but not what I'm going for. My 7 string has factory legator pickups, and my 8 string has blackouts abh1 pickups. I'm really sorry for saying this but... it doesn't djent the way I want it to. 😓
Do you scoop mids?
@@donovanolguin977 no. I have them over half. I switch between 9 o'clock and 7 o'clock . And yes I have almost no idea what I'm doing. I'm doing it all by myself. So help would be appreciated. But I got some money and now I'm getting the zombie for sure. But i don't know of i should get a 1x12 with a v30 or a 2x12 with i don't know what speakers. Both harley Benton. And there is no waiting to save money because I'm still paying for a $6000 csection bill and around April 2019 I'll have another $6000 csection bill.(baby number 2). On top of paying for a $130,000 house and a $10,00 truck that will be done in less than a year. Sorry for the speech but just wanted you to get the whole details. Input would still be appreciated. Thanks in advance!
@@donovanolguin977 also I am using a precision drive pedal with the guitars. Into a dumb peavey vip 2 (2nd gen) that I thought was awesome at first but now I don't care for it.
@@AaronMorgan666 i would prefer the harley benton 2x12 becuase
•pushes more air
•better power rating
•both speakers are celestion vintage 30s
@@AaronMorgan666 i would prefer the harley benton 2x12 becuase
•pushes more air
•better power rating
•both speakers are celestion vintage 30s
Also is only 137 usd thomann
The last time i cheaked
Any chance of doing the same type of demo with all the hotone mini heads? That would be awesome! The hotone mini heads I heard sound amazing but there are not many demos of the new models. I'd love to hear more of the Hotone Eagle's Heart
which is based on a ENGL Savage. I haven't found a decent demo of that amp yet.
May it be, the meteor sounds the most open and breathing or is this just me?
Which one do you think gets closest to the darker, fuzzier Marshall Silver Jubilee tones like around 5:45 in this video? From what I've heard online it almost sounds like the Orange-based Meteor gets closer than the Marshall-based Jackman (and I sometimes do think the Jubilee is closer to Oranges than Marshalls - like the Jubilee is almost like a clearer, less muddy Orange). Would anyone else, especially someone who has heard them in person, agree that the Meteor might be closer to the Jubilee tones or am I hearing things? Thanks for any input!
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Lo hay que conectar a un altavoz ?
These seem pretty cool, but do they have anything like that for bass?
Hello! Can you run it with high-wattage cabinets? What's the best cabinet rating to pair with these?
8ohm. They can drive a 4x12 fine I'd reccomend a vertical 2x12 though
You mess around with all the knobs BUT the volume! Turn up the volume next time!!!!!! Man, it's all about the NOIZ DUDE!!!
HEAD TO HEAD ACTION!!!
But what kinda speaker cab you using?
One question, in the clean mode, they sound all the same?
Amazing amp shootout. Considering bluejay or meteor
In my humble opinion : HEAVY : ZOMBIE Wins, CRUNCH : METEOR and JACK MAN win, CLEAN : METEOR and BLUEJAY win
How do these little things sound so good?
can all these be use DI from the send to pc or to mooer radar etc to pc..
Yep
What amp does the bantam BaDass simulate?
You should have played them with the drive on without other pedals in the chain. This way you played the nuance in the gain knob is lost. I don't have a clue if I can play a blues on the zombie without an extra softer pedal.
lololz that intro, good stuff
Don’t know how you’re getting these so bright. I’ve tried two so far and both are still lacking even with the tone all the way over to the right. And the Jackman I tried didn’t nearly have as much gain as ‘yours’...?
Could be your cab sound
@@treyxaviermusic - appreciate it, but I tried 3 different cabs. Open back ET65, 2x12 with V30 and Greenback, etc. Like your channel, rock on.
There's not enough good quality videos that use the zombie and the vivo with a precision drive...
What will you recommend for someone who plays everything aside from metal?
I recommend that you learn to play metal.
@@harvesteroftone5473
Ha! Good one, bro 😎
Try the Orange Micro Dark and keep the Gain down a bit. I like the sculpting on the Mids.....
Can't decide between the vivo and meteor.
I ghot the AtomiC, this litle thing become verry fast the go to amp to practice and just noodll around . Easy to dial in a tone start You Tube whit a backing track and go, and it eats padels for dinner
i think i'll just go for tone at -10 and will sound good
I know right hahaha