**R-rated Hunger Games!??** Battle Royale (2000) Reaction/ Commentary: FIRST TIME WATCHING
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Chigusa (the runner in the yellow tracksuit) is Chiaki Kuriyama, who plays Gogo in Kill Bill Vol. 1. I believe this movie is the reason Tarantino cast her.
True
She is my favorite
Ur prob right since this is his favorite movie of the 90s
The teacher didn't had a good relantionship with his daughter, as we can notice from the call, and he pretty much had terrible experiences with the students (as exemplified by the dude who stabbed him), but the main girl was the only one who showed some sort of empaty towards him once, and he grabbed on that memory and idealized her as the model of perfect daughter and teenager that he wanted to have, in his mind.
Fun fact: kitano dauther is shiori from battle royale 2
lol I remember when a commercial for hunger games came out and a coworker started mumbling "wannabe Battle Royale" I whipped my head around and said "You've seen Battle Royale???" ... He was 1 of 3 people invited to the courthouse when my husband and I got married. ☺️
I gotta admit, I would've overlooked Hunger Games if I'd not been a fan of Battle Royale first.
Ironically I'm now one of Collins' most vocal defenders about how she didn't intentionally rip it off, and really enjoy both movie series.
I saw this movie (and read the book it's based on) before The Hunger Games book came out so when I first heard about The Hunger Games and people said it had such a uniqe plot I just saw it as a Battle Royale copy and actively didn't read it. I still haven't read The Hunger Games or seen the movie but I avoid spoilers because I plan to some day.
I would recommend you read it, the similarities with BR are kind of superficial and got blown out of proportion. The books are better and more ruthless and true to the message than the movies.
Yeah, the Hunger Games books are worth a read and quite serious. The movies without the book knowledge makes less sence in some places and to be fair are a lot less supirior to the books
Mitsuko Soma (the psycho girl)'s backstory in the book is heartbreaking. She was abused by dad, step-dad, teacher to whom she confessed and even the police.
I really like how in this movie there were multiple mini stories and they showed us different kinds of scenarios that could happen, love the intensity I think it all works perfectly together :)
The book this is based on is excellent as well. It jumps into most of the student's POV throughout and you get to learn about vastly different personalities and motivations and biases.
Tatsuya Fujiwara who plays Shuya, the lead male student, is now playing Harry Potter in the Cursed Child production here in Tokyo and he plays anguish so well. I knew from this film and his role of Light in Death Note that he could play a more nuanced and war ridden Harry well 🥲
If you are interested there's a manga of BR. And also there are two other movies of BR.
For what I remember, having watched this years ago, Kitano was fond of Noriko because she was a good and respectful student (what differentiates her from her classmates, who didn't care about learning and would do whatever they wanted, including disrespect and harming teachers, such as Nanahara's friend).
What I believe os this final scene shows us that Kitano was sus about Noriko and Nanahara really dying and that was the reason he dismissed all the military officials (opposed to the starting scene where the winner is brought back and interviewed). It is also shown he is willing to die because he uses a water gun again the characters and not a real gun (which he had and could've used) tricking them into killing them. Because he has nothing. He is no longer a teacher, he has a bad relationship with his family and over all, if the ones who are actually in charge of BR discover he didn't went along with BR' rules they would go kill him anyway (just like they killed the teacher who didn't agree to the class to participate in the games).
One of my very favorite films of all time, the allegory of how the old sell out the youth for their own benefit in society which clearly echoes out into the wars that have been fought in this world. Great film.
Its funny we have the opposite pov. To you this is like an R rated Hunger Games, but to me the Hunger Games was a disneyfied toned down Battle Royale.
Why are the subs so weird? They keep writing 'pur' instead of 'our' and 'nodu' instead of "Nobu", among other things.
We're supposed to suspect Kawada spared Shuya and Noriko because they seem harmless and easily manipulated, but it's probably because they remind him of himself and Keiko, back when they were naive and hopeful.
The teacher wanted Noriko to win. She was his favorite student and the only one he deemed worthy.
Anyway, BR is one of my favorite movies and has been for 16ish years. :D The book is great too.
The teacher asking the girl "what should an adult tell a kid?" I think that was the director speaking. The director was a real energetic dude, super enthusiastic about his work, also way old.
He had been 15 during WWII when he and his classmates were working in an arms factory and the bombing started. He said in a matter of minutes the surviving kids were trying to dig under their dead classmates, their dead friends, to use their bodies as a meat shield.
I don't know how to articulate what I think his message is. In my fairness, neither does the teacher. I think it's something about how the director's generation was passing. Soon in their country no one will have their own memories anymore of unprocessable violence-a part of being human that doesn't sit right with us.
These death games dose have the same gino in a particular Killing game genera but there is a big difference between them.
The Hunger games focused on the media and the entertainment industry, it's how people outside the influence of the media haft to deal with the lies of the industry.
While Battle Royale is about the government showing their dominance to the people of Japan, and keep these teens in line.
Their inspiration comes from two seperate things, Battle Royale being a what if japan won the war,
the other come from the iran war and the media surrounding it.
Iraq war? I don't think there was one in Iran... Not yet... Or not recently... Oh well >_>;
Such a classic, beautiful, romantic film. very old graphic wise, but also in terms very nice to look at as such an idea was done in such old fashioned cinema's way.
And it was really good fun watching in as a middle school student the first time back in the days.
The actor plays the teacher, Kitano Takeshi, has a lot of great work to check out, too.
RIP the director who pass away not long after the film. imagine what he could have offer if he is still around.
“I’m assuming there’s some violence” 😂🤣😂🤣
I don’t think the movie is the worst thing in the world, but let me tell you, the book and the manga series are LEAGUES ahead of this in terms of quality of storytelling and characters. The manga series is actually my favorite manga series of all time.
Just a warning on top of this, the manga isn't for everyone...the artists depictions of many of the cast is bizarre, many look like they're twice their age, and the characters are frequently subjected to explicit sex scenes that never existed in the source material - seemingly for titillation, which considering the context, is a bit disturbing.
I just love to see reactions of BR. I watched his movie with a bunch of friends in the way back when on a bootleg VHS (because back then that was the only way, the biggest thing you could get from the internet back then was MP3s in the lower MB-range at best) and the "understanding" was "You are never going to tell anyone about this, because if you do we are all in serious trouble!"
As said in "The Good, the Bad, and the Ugly" -- If you're going to shoot, shoot. Don't talk!
The actress that mutilated the perv’s package in Battle Royale is in Kill Bill vol. 1 as Oren Ishii’s trusted bodyguard hand, Gogo Yubari. I guess his homage to Battle Royale was a similar scene 😬 😅
I've loved this movie and book since my senior year of high school, I would've never heard about it if I hadn't known a few guys who were into all things Japanese, since they were the ones who told me about it. Not really feeling any of the library books that I got this last visit, so maybe I just need to reread Battle Royale. Want to rewatch the movie, too, but I only have the dubbed version, and it's awful trying to watch it in English.
Squid Games forces poor people into deadly scenarios and Battle Royale forces delinquent teens into deadly scenarios. Is there another Asian story like this but for geriatrics in fights to the death instead? 😆
There's Logan's Run- not Asian or a fight to the death but it's set in a post-apocalyptic dystopian society where people must die at 30.
Not delinquents just teens
Great choice! Haven't watched this for awhile, so I'm loving the reaction!
Fun fact, this official name of this battle law in the book is called “Battle Experiment No.68.” Annually, 50 classes of ninth grade kids are chosen for the battle, so at any given point of the year a battle can be going on. It’s only for 9th graders though, if you make it to the 10th grade then you’re safe. Another change from book to movie, there is a time of death-requirement of sorts but not limit, in the movie the battle has a 3 day time limit, in the book the battles can go on indefinitely, as long as there is at least 1 accounted death every 24 hour period the battle goes on, if 24 hours goes by and someone still hasn’t died, then all the necklaces detonate.
Love your reaction!
Now this is a nice surprise. A movie and original novel that I highly enjoy that don't seem to get quite enough love anymore. Excellent choice, my man. Cheers!!
Omg I randomly found this movie and watched it a few months ago, I didn't know this was popular, thought it was a small random film!
As of how much Quentin Tarantino likes the film. He has the actress ,Chiaki Kuriyama, who plays Takako the jogging girl to act in Kill Bill.
' I don't drink'
'now's the time to pretend'
it was The Birdcage :)
My first tastes of this kind of story/theme was reading Lord of the Flies when I was young. Then The Long Walk, The Running Man, then this, then Hunger Games. All have the same basic theme (probably the wrong word but I'm tired) but each has its own unique voice so I liked them all. BR actually had a pretty happy ending considering, you know, the origins and whatnot. Great reaction too. 🐾🐾🍻
The chigusa's death scene is really great
Niida didn't just die a virgin, he died a forcibly castrated virgin. That's a big ouch.
The two dudes Mitsuko got were implied to have had their action first, but she was likely consenting. Whether _they_ were, mind you...
I cannot wait to see this!!
The kid who plays the lead in this, Nanahara, he also plays Light Yagami in a live action adaptation of Death Note that I like better than the anime.
You know, Battle Royale can relate to Squid Game. : 0
17:51 it is. That's one of her weapons.
There is also a book and a series of manga that fleshes out the characters and motivations even more. Don't forget the sequel BR 2. Thanks for the video Thor or more like Samson!
What version is this?! I’ve seen this movie a few times and just watched it the other day again…. I’ve never seen a lot of these scenes. Is this the directors cut?
Yes omg I love this film deffo one of my faves x
I know there's a manga too, and maybe a book? This came out in December 2000 I remember, but the director had actually planned on it coming out months earlier. There were some delays because he was very meticular about details, I saw the movie making of that came with the DVD and he made them redo whole scenes because their foot was like a few centimeters too on the side or something, I think it was really hard on the actors because they had to redo so many scenes before the director accepted a cut. Yet you have small mistakes like the polaroid picture being bloodier before than after (because they filmed the beginning of the movie last). If I remember well, he wanted it to come out early 2000 or even end of 1999. The high crime rates, low employment, etc were things that people were very worried about at the turn of the century, hence why he thought it was the perfect time to do it. This movie was meant to be a social commentary on how people deal with and can react in difficult situations, pressure etc. You have the suicides, small groups teaming up until the end, small groups breaking apart due to a breach in trust, lone wolves, psychopaths... and of course the flashbacks and discussions help to understand what would lead one character to react a certain way: Mitsuko was abused as a child, I think her dad was absent and her mom would sell Mitsuko to paedophiles so she could buy drugs/alcohol for herself. Just like she had to fend for herself as a child, she is fending for herself here. Then you have those acting due to a desire of revenge, like one of the girls Mitsuko killed, or the girl in the yellow tracksuit. And finally, those acting out of love, like Shuya and Noriko but also the guy who was tracking the girl he liked to see if she was okay, the guy who won before, the girl in the lighthouse who likes Shuya, etc. I really liked this movie because it showed a wide array of possible reactions in that situation and every single one of them felt valid to a certain point (except for the psycho guy). There is a Battle Royale 2, which was okay but slightly less good than this one in my opinion. A very different message I think but if you're curious as to what happens to Shuya and Noriko as well as Kitano's daughter it's worth watching. Also, the director actually died of cancer during the filming of the second one, so his son had to finish it. I remember he brought his dad's ashes to the premiere.
The Agatha Christie book is currently in print under And Then There Were None, due to the original name containing an ethnic slur we don't use anymore (the N word) and the "Indians" it was changed to also being derogatory towards native Americans.
No, they don't mean Indians from India..
This movie blew my mind 20 years ago when I saw it as a blind buy imported dvd. The sequel is ok but problematic.
I'd use the term flawed rather than problematic... Problematic tends to be more related to political correctness stuff... Not that it couldn't be applied in the sense that there are problems, but it might lead people to believe that those problems are because they were wearing blackface or something lol. I don't know... That might be funny though...
...Unless you did mean that it was problematic in that sense and I've just forgotten that part of it... Oh well >_>;
SQUID GAME, PLEASE!!! 🙏🙏🙏
The manga is even more disturbing.
Its a Japanese movie, there is only one tone... "Brutal"
There's a follow-up that explaines the girl/teacher- relationship further: Battle Royale II - Requiem (Batoru rowaiaru II - Chinkonka) [2003]
With some more interesting social and psychological layers.
The butchered subtitles in this is shocking ! I don't remember so many spelling mistakes back when i watched it🤣
You should watch Wedlock with the exploading collars
the original hunger games
Even the Battle Royale punishment system couldn't scare black kids into behaving in school.
Nevadachan a famous murderer in Japan got inspiration from this movie to kill one of her classmates friends in real life 😬
Somebody probably already commented this but there are 2 Battle Royale sequels as well 🙂 I’ve seen the second one (not bad) but only just found out about the third, so would be great to see you react to them as well 😁❤️❤️ XxXxX
Third? There's just two.
When you shoot, shoot! Don’t talk.
''悪の教典 Aku no kyouten'' の反応を期待してます
This came before the Hunger Games. It is disturbing and it took about 4 watches to see past the blood. Eventually I read the manga and they were better to me.
The original novel is better than both movie and manga
As usual, the book is like a billion times better. The manga is also amazing and expands on even the book. The movie... Is pretty good if you aren't aware of the source material, and just okay if you are. I don't understand why the movie completely invented the teacher having a crush on Noriko. Like, in addition to being gross, it was unnecessary and really added morning of value to the movie or plot.
Other big and unnecessary changes include their homeroom teacher not being the one that introduces the game to them (their teachers were actually very against them having to play), Nobu never randomly stabbing any teachers, and Kiriyama actually being part of their class and not a random teacher student.
I really don't understand their motive for ANY if the above things. It's like they wanted to make the movie but were too scared to ACTUALLY make the movie, so they had to add in a motive for the teacher to kill Nobu, they had to neuter Kiriyama by making it so he's not gleefully murdering his classmates, and add in some pedophile plot to get Noriko to the end when NONE of that was at all needed or logical.
Think about this imagine if your registration class was chosen think who would play who'd go to pieces who'd form alliances and it wouldn't be who you'd think it would be
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I love Battle Royal.. Had a huge hate towards the Hunger games because it become so popularr and no one knew about BR XD
Annnnnd.. you know.. There is a Battle Royal 2.. *wink wink*.. Not as good as the first one, but I enjoying watching you watch movies I like :D
Where the hell did you find those godawful subtitles?? Worst I've ever seen.
I saw this too long ago, I forgot all about it. But this is my style of movie for the dark and deathly. I don't want corny theatrics, I just want destruction's right hand. And you're right, you exist on a pin needle of trust even if you do buddy-up it's not safe to assume you'll be fine. Could you imagine it, if it were real but someone has to sign you up for it? Teachers would do it, employees would do it, I think a lot of A-holes with chips on their shoulders would sign people up for it and just sit back with a smile. I would do it to someone I don't like, not a petty dislike but someone who seriously wronged me or someone I love and needs to just go. Nevermind punished, just go away from life. But, I love that one actor, I don't often remember his name but I know he played Light in Death Note he is incredible
I discovered Battle Royale in 2009 through the manga. I was 15, and it changed my life, because this is how I first learned about these korean ultra-violent movies. If you're into this kind of stuff, try "Crow zero", it's a fighting movie with a huge shonen storytelling, involving teenage drama, mafia intrigues, and some kind of street fighting martial art tournament.
That's a japanese movie ?
@@LittleBananapo you're right, my bad.
I LOVE And Then There Were None, it's one of the only Agatha Christie books that I've ever finished. And they changed the title when it was published in the US because the original title was 'Ten Little ______', but the n-word was used for the last word in the title. When it was published by another company in '64, it got changed again to Ten Little Indians.
Wish they made an American version of this, but Hanger Games would be the closest. It would either never be allowed, or Hollywood would simply destroy it with the remake.
Nooo, hunger games is a milk toast BR. Not the other way around.
I think you will have some sympathy for the teacher on a second watch.
I decided to watch Battle Royale in English (dub) version first because it was free. The language shift to English threw me off, I’m not sure if I’m happy or disappointed that I didn’t just buy the original Japanese version 🙈.
This has been one of my favorite movies of all time. Collins, the writer of Hunger Games claimed she never saw this, or heard of this when she wrote it.
Right, just like JK Rowling had never seen the movie The Worst Witch before writing Harry Potter... 🤣🤣
"Collins, the writer of Hunger Games claimed she never saw this"
Riiiiiiiiiiight......
Of course she didn't.
🤣🤣🤣
I believe her. I watched the very first season of Survivor and wondered what it would be like if the contestants were trying to kill each other instead of just manipulating each other. I remember hearing that the US military would time their battles in Vietnam so that they were shown live on the evening news. Put those two concepts together and you have The Hunger Games. Not to mention that despite what fans of all things Japanese think, most people have never seen anything from Japanese entertainment - no anime, no manga, nothing, unless it has been redone by Hollywood like The Ring or The Grudge. It's only due to recent Netflix hits like Squid Games or Train to Busan that Americans at large are becoming more aware of Asian entertainment at all.
She said she took inspiration in the antiquity: the Roman circus game and the tributes that Athene had to hand over to the kingdom Crete so they could be eaten by the Minotaur. Sounds valid to me since she used a lot of « Roman » names for the people in the Capitol.
The big difference between this and Hunger Games is that Hunger Games is absolute trash.
The difference between this and hunger games is that they are both great movies that focus on different underlying topics
I think those that accuse the hunger games of being a rip off of this film miss the nuance and deeper philosophy the hunger games are entrenched in. THG is very much an anti war story. Everything it deals with from the lore of the world, to even katniss'love interests revolve around the ethics (propaganda) and philosophy surrounding war. (Gale is fire, rage and war, peeta is the flower in spring, hopefulness, and peace). I haven't read the battle royale manga, but just based on comparing films they are VERY different. The only similarity I see are children dying.
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This is why I can't get into the Hunger Games. I had already seen Battle Royale and I can't respect anything that doesn't acknowledge its influences.
What is wrong with the subtitles here..?
The winner is a gin!
Bootleg copy is my guess.
They are…really poor *oof* I hope it isn’t a legit copy but also don’t like the thought that he is using bootleg copies 😬
I don’t think she was excited by the death and violence. I think it was just kind of a weirdly acted facial expression I feel like.
I can’t get over the excruciatingly bad acting.
The squibs were used so much, I wouldn’t be surprised if there were a couple of trips to the hospital. I was in a film and our weapons and squib guy was the same guy that did “Robocop”, so we thought we’d be safe. He put 10 squibs on one of my co-actors and cracked his ribs. I would let them put any on me after that!
please reaction Death note version Japanese live action
no idea why this has so many dislikes
I believe that The Hunger Games was written as a result of the author seeing the impact of "reality tv" (probably Survivor mostly) and the political machinations of the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan, and stitching them together in a great way to show how anything that involves the powerful (political and military) using teenagers (poor kids who enlist to get money for college/rich kids who go to military schools/all kids who are drafted) as puppets in a public arena represent a broken system that needs to be stopped - and the shattered lives those puppets have afterwards. Katniss is a great protagonist for that message because all she ever wanted to do was take care of her family, and yet because she succeeded in saving herself and Peeta, she becomes a puppet for a revolution that destroys her family and her life. The author was very smart in making Katniss aware of the fact that Coin was just going to make herself the queen of the same pile of crap, and then letting Katniss stop her.
I believe that Battle Royale was written as a social commentary on the traditional values both the Japanese government and the older generations were imposing on the teenagers, how there was an increasing number of teenagers who were rebelling against tradition by sometimes violent means, and the lengths the powerful might go to in order to make examples of some teenagers in order to keep the rest in line. The author of Battle Royale was good at showing how these kids who had known each other for years would feel about the situation and how they would react to those emotions in that situation. I believe the teacher knew there were a few good kids in that class and he had seen the good kids get slaughtered by the bad kids in previous games, that when it came to the class he knew (and knew about the two older substitutes), he interfered to help the good girl and boys survive because he knew it was the right thing to do.
My partner and I made a few friends who were exchange students from Japan in the early 90s and came to the US to finish their English studies. They talked about how strict things were in their country and how much pressure they felt to live the life their elders wanted for them. They also came back to visit a few weeks for the next few years and brought a friend who was "disgraced" because he refused to go to school for business and was being an artist instead. Last we heard, he had a job in the Miyazaki studio and got married but they refused to have children because of everything his elders had put him through. So far as I know, there were a lot more younger people like him and the media over there were starting to talk about a crisis of elders who didn't have any family to care for them.
yeah its a shame how much western influence is poisoning Japan
Rated R? Americans always water down or make japanese films more commercially viable. Hunger Games was a complete disappointment, to be expected
@Thor Reacts - FYI…Hunger Games is a Battle Royale RIP OFF.