How to Identify a False Prophet // THE RAPTURE & ENDURANCE OF THE SAINTS
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The Rapture and the Endurance of the Saints Episode 35: How to Identify a False Prophet
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You are a man after my own heart, thank you. I have been a Christian for over 50 years, and a Bible teacher for over 40 years and have never been to a church that did not teach of a pretribulation rapture. But I knew from early on it was not supported by Scripture.
To the point, the Lord showed me two separate revelations, the second clarifying the first. The first one was that the pretribulation rapture doctrine is to the church what evolution is to the world. There was no clarification at that time. Some time later He explained what was meant. It was that the theory of evolution gives the world an alternative view of God's creation. The pretribulation rapture doctrine gives the church an alternative view of His second coming. He further indicated that this would be, in part, for people to fall away in the great apostasy, through being disillusioned if they were not firmly planted in Christ. Those that are firmly planted will make the adjustments as a bump in the road. Keep up the good work.
The fact is, you are not a Christian. The Lord has shown you nothing.
I got what ppl call "church hurt", I left my former church after realizing nothing they or what the televangelists they follow say ever came to fruition. Long story short it made me question not God or Jesus, but the Body of Christ as a whole and I began my journey of deconstructing centuries worth of status quos in American Evangelism.
@@jwhiskey534 ,....The fact is, everything called and known as the church is all 100% apostate. Including the fake christians in this video and the original commenter above. They are all outside the kingdom of God and just all steeped in the Godless worlds counterfeit (antichrist) christianity.
Get away from everything called the church and real the Bible yourself only, and do not ever listen to anyone from anything called the church.
"But the anointing which ye have received of him abideth in you, and ye need not that any man teach you: but as the same anointing teacheth you of all things, and is truth, and is no lie, and even as it hath taught you, ye shall abide in him." 1 John 2:27 KJV
@@jwhiskey534 😆 "church hurt" same here. I just couldn't understand why love for believers was so cold. Was this all there was to church and going to church? Yehovah didn't care? If MY church was closest or the true church what more would I find out of it? Dispair then apathy. I just didn't care to return to my former church. Now since starting on this path to find Truth which was shown to me through Yehovahs doing, I'm now re strengthening my trust in Yehovah and Yeshua! Re learning and learning much things andar peace with my creator.
I always questioned the pretrib rapture. But I believed it because every preacher I ever heard said it was true. I’m happy to know I don’t have to believe it anymore
Believe scripture ❤
You are on fire these last few vids, Joel! Really appreciate how focused you are on drilling down into the text and relating it to the present and upcoming struggle, which no part of the body is prepared for as they struggle with each other rather than the enemy.
No. I simply ask Joel are you a non-pacifist that kills and breaks God's commandment thou shalt not kill. Joel says yes without regrets. Liars break thou shalt not lie. Thieves break thou shalt not steal. Amish are pacifists and obey thou shalt not kill. ISAIAH 53 says the Messiah did NO VIOLENCE. Show me one example in NT that an Apostle or disciple killed another man. No way both pacifists and non-pacifists are saved because both liars, thieves, non heterosexuals are saved. Your no Berian brother, your believing a false teacher straight up. 🤣😍👍😎
Haha, my fellow Bostonian... I had to pause the video because I was laughing so hard. I know exactly how you feel. I grew up in MA - north of Boston on the coast, but now live on the coast of Virginia. I'm a hand-talking Northern Greek gal who loves a healthy debate. Your defense is solid. : ) This is a very timely message for me - I love your teachings. I find I debate with my heart on a daily. One of my simple prayers is, Lord, I know you always lead me to the truth - don't let me get in the way - Your will always! Or some version of that.. but the one thing that I'm sure of is that He always does lead me to the truth, and I trust Him to get me there. Thanks for all you do, Joel!
AMEN! Thank you for this strong truth ❤ it’s heartbreaking to see all the people who are not prepared for the horrible things to come! 🙏🏼
If anyone is in/in agreement with any church, they are not a Christian. There are no Christians in the church.
Get ready and be ready. Those who are expecting the pre-trib will be disappointed
I think many pre-trib believers will deny we are in a tribulation.
Probably,the great" falling away" spoken of by Apostle Paul comes to mind with many believers disappointed
on realizing the Church is gonna be facing d tribulation.
Also,d five foolish virgins alludes to same story where many got tired of waiting bcos d Master did not return when they had anticipated.
@@tonyubaka3810I believe the falling away has already started with the churches who agree with the LG..... . The Methodist are going thru this right now.
@tonyubaka3810 they are believing the "falling away" is their rapture. 😮 They've changed the definition of apostasy. 😮
Thank you brother for your dedication to truth. Keep running the race. I believe the finish line isn't far off.
You have captured my heart and burden in this video.
A lot of leaders have left the people of God open to trouble
Thank you for your dedication, it is appreciated. I have learned so much from Fai and it helps me to stay on track and keep my priorities straight.
May it always be that our Lord Jesus is the way maker in all things, as His Spirit always leads us His sons and daughters to His truth and His truth sets us in His comforting hands which is like no other. 🕊
You have not learned any Biblical truth from these guys. You have only been deceived by them.
@@John_Lete ,...There is no Biblical truth coming from this channel. You are all totally steeped in deception.
@@exposingfakechristianity5556your blanket slander holds no weight.
@@christincommon5496,....Blanket slander? I have only given you the truth. This man does not understand the Bible. The few who Jesus came to save understand the Bible.
The problem with a pre trib rapture is, when the "persecution even unto death" begins, they won't be mentally prepared for what is coming. The false messiah comes first, if you are looking for Jesus first...many will be decieved.
I love you folks at FAI . Joel I appreciate your teachings. This might sound silly but I dig the primitive mechanics gears operating and that soundtrack. We are praying for all you folks atFAI be safe. Praise HIS name.
How bout saving your advertisements till the end of your teaching. They break the flow big time.
In the 70s I believed in pre-tribulation rapture. Until I read the Bible myself. I have understood since then that we were being lied to, by TV pastors. Y Bible is my best friend!!
You are being lied to (deceived) by all the churches preachers/teachers. All of them!
We appreciate your sound Biblical teaching. I have learned so much from you.
Thank you Joel for all the time you have put in to this much needed series! It's been excellent and I hope it has waken up many to the truth,
Really important teaching. Thank you!
Thank you for this blessing...
This teaching was on fire 🔥 awesome!
Another session of excellent teaching Joel. I wholeheartedly agree!
"If I'm wrong, worst case, I'm pleasantly surprised... 23:50" - good application of Pascal's wager!
From around the 18:14 minute mark until the 20:20 minute mark described me much too close for comfort lol. Thanks for that.
Reeeeally need a series that teaches us how to share these truths with different groups of people
Thank you brother Joel 😇
We are watchman on the wall, looking, warning, interceding, shedding light on the days we are in and the darkness and difficulties ahead. We must be prepared as a bride waiting for her groom, remaining Holy set apart, clothed in white linen, with the oil of the Holy Spirit in lamps of our hearts, keeping our eyes and focus longing for our groom, knowing how much he loves us❤️ Whatever I must endure until He comes He will hold me in the palm of His and tuck me under His wing. May I love Yeshua and Abba as much as they deserve and as much as they love me❤️
Maranatha !!!!
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You are solid Brother.
Thank you Joel! It is indeed a very important teaching you have delivered, I have often wondered about those who believe in a pre-trib rapture, what a dissapointment it could very well be for them, will they then question their own belief ? Will they then fall for the strong delusion that will come? We must always pray, watch and be not decieved. Excellent Video!!!
I am post rapture because I believe we should all be tested and that is all.
Being tested is testifying!
A witness
What is post rapture?
@johntandy8918 they mean they believe in a post trib rapture, not a pre trib rapture.
@johntandy8918 something tells me you already knew that.
@@julianaallen8477I hope so ❤️ because post rapture (and I asked because I don't fully understand it) is a pre-trib theology about leaving instructions for people who weren't "lucky" enough to be beamed up out of here and have to somehow "prove" themselves 🙏
The last passage Joel read "who is the wise servant who the master made ruler over all his house.. to give them their food in due season.. I really think this is speaking litterally. Like the 7 years of plenty and the 7 years of famine with Joseph, he was literally able to sustain his family bc he stock piled food when there was plenty. I believe this verse is saying the same. I mean some oatmeal or rice may be the difference to someone who is thinking about talking the mark. I really really feel like while we can we need to do what we can, while we can still buy. Maybe just a couple things a week.. but start saving something (not cash bc it will be worthless anyway).
How do you sustain yourself though if they come and take your house because you can't pay the mortgage? Honestly asking because I don't know how to live off the grid. I would have to believe the Father to sustain me like He did Elijah.
@MeLrOsE429 I mean, yeah, trust in God is a big one. I have an emergency to go pack just in case. I bought a tent that i can just throw in my husband car if we see it come to that. Personally, I plan on being martyred and going home. Until then, though, having some extra water and non-perishable food to give to people who are unaware of what is happening is my goal. Obviously, having 3.5 years of food and water is not possible. But it will be the best time to get the gospel out. I really don't think most will make it to the rapture bc they will be killed before then. Who cares, all they are doing by killing people is sending them home.
@@MeLrOsE429 do you own your car?
@MeLrOsE429 we have no idea when this will all happen. I like the documentary Messiah 2030. Plus 2030 makes sense for Jesus's return, but still it's just an educated guess. Matthew 24 Jesus gives a huge clue about the abomination of desolation. That has not happened yet, when it does I pray we will be ready for what's to come.
@@julianaallen8477Totally agree. I plan on being martyred as well. I pray I am counted worthy of that honor.
My husband and I have talked about it. We could build up a storehouse of food (and we are but not a doomsday type of setup) because we also know that, in that day, the mark will be required for gasoline (so no travel) and, as I mentioned, if you cannot pay your mortgage.... but this is where I think getting alone with the Father and asking for knowledge and wisdom is what I must do because I can try to figure it out all day long but my peanut-sized brain cannot. Thankfully, we have the mind of Christ to help! 🙌🏻. Have a good day! Blessings to you!
Joel, keep sharing the message. You cover this a lot. It shows you care. I'm thankful you do. Pre-tribbers are adamant about their stance. Can't count the times I've heard "when I'm flying out of here, I'll say I told you so." Wait, aren't I going too? You're so right about the Northeasterners. I laughed when you told that story. For years during the Holidays, I worked for an online fruit sales company. Pears, baskets, fruit, etc that were way too expensive. I could see the phone numbers of the calls coming in. I quickly learned the area codes of that area especially New York. Sometimes, I'd get tagged team (husband/wife) yelling at me because their pears were too soft. I was younger back then & it bothered me. I'm older & If I still worked there, I'd just go with the flow. It's how they are. It wasn't personal or hateful. Thanks, for everything you do. I need to self reflect everyday. I'm gonna share the scriptures you shared with us. Yes, the Orcs are coming. That's a good visual example.
Amen. Well done. Amen.
Powerful! Great message.
What a thought provoking word - thank you!
Good Job again Joel, all so true.
Great teaching, Amen and Maranatha !!!
I have also noticed how defensive they get when they cannot get us to believe these things not proven in scripture. This is not the holy spirit. I was a preterist all my life up until the reformed church got me out of fantasy land. I was teachable, because God allowed me to be open to correction, but they do not care about what is right in some areas. They have decided to believe what they want in spite of evidence.
What I can say with ABSOLUTE confidence about Biblical eschatology is this…Jesus will return when the Father says, “Go”!
Well presented
I can just imagine John the Baptist saying “Den of vipers… Bless your heart!” 😂
I don’t understand why some say this isn’t a salvation issue….. or they are okay with “agree to disagree” this is gonna be so detrimental for many people later on if the church doesn’t get it together.
Revelation 20:4-5
[4]And I saw thrones, and they sat upon them, and judgment was given unto them: and I saw the souls of them that were beheaded for the witness of Jesus, and for the word of God, and which had not worshipped the beast, neither his image, neither had received his mark upon their foreheads, or in their hands; and they lived and reigned with Christ a thousand years.
[5]But the rest of the dead lived not again until the thousand years were finished. This is the first resurrection.
Appreciate the heart felt path. But evil is evil and lies are lies. Stealing is stealing. We see it. And the awakening is our own opportunity to repent and change. God spoke. People were correct in their words from the Lord. Satan is desparate in this hour and the church is waking up. And I don't see a future tribulation. Its happening. Our country is under covenant with God and we have to return.
Last thing. God knows times have changed. Very wise. The earth no longer speaks death. Laws have changed.
personally I think everyone should use their own discernment and intuition and not give their power away to anyone. I do believe that there are challenges coming and a great shift in spirit and consciousness is already underway. I've found the best way to evaluate any claim is to do your own research first, listen to multiple channels, look at their track record and be open to changing your mind if the information resonates within your heart and makes sense. While it still might not necessarily happen, you won't have just given away your power to unscrupulous, foolish or otherwise misinformed people.
I've found trusting in mankind to often result in frustration, confusion and disappointment. However, trusting in Jesus Christ I've found someone truly worthy of all my trust and loyalty. My life is in His hands and I strive to keep knowing Him better and to keep following Him 😊
Can you compliment this on how to identify false Pastor's or more Biblically, Shepherds?
yes!! how to properly test them with the Scriptures… remember satan also knows the Scriptures and he quoted from them to tempt Jesus, he is very intelligent and has been observing us for a long time, evil’s strategy is always either telling an incomplete truth out of context or a truth mixed with a lie… and false teachers will deceive you while quoting Scripture
@@anda9690 So if we take the Whole of the New Testament scripture and the examples of the Bible, how do you think the institutionalized church lines up with it?
@@dhe777 seems to me that the institutionalized church always ends up with corrupted leaders imposing an agenda … I don’t follow men… I don’t associate with any denomination… so much deception and disappointment and it leads people to reject God because of the fault in men… eyes and heart on Jesus and the Word that’s it…
If u understand d story of d five foolish virgins who grew tired of waiting bcos their timing doesn't tally with our Lord's return, symbolically represented with finished oil in their lamps coupled with Apostle Paul's warning about d great "falling away " and d coming of d man of lawlessness, then u can understand d predicament d pri-tribers are confronted with.
I'm one God Jesus name pentecostal and I know for a fact that what Jesus birthed after his resurrection in the book of Acts continues to this day.
Of course we still have to be careful and judge accordingly
Joel, have you ever had the opportunity to speak with Amir Tsarfati?
So what would a person do to prepare for the great tribulation?
Receive the Holy Spirit and you will be prepared😂😂🎉😂😂😊
Isn't this a repeat? Or a part 2 idk
Mt 24;45 … the faithful servant knows the right time (Moedim) to keep sabbath holy… we lost this knowledge… 📖 Lam 2;6
I believe in a pre wrath rapture. All of the pastors i follow teach Pre trib, but one.
I have seen a massive shift in their teachings in the last year. They start each lesson by saying i believe in a pre tribulation rapture, and then go on to teach pre wrath. Telling us to prepare. None of them were saying prepare a year ago. The people in the live chats dont notice.
Jesus told us in Matt 24 v9 we will suffer to the point of death. V10 many will fall away...
Jesus and Paul both told us we will see the antichrist before we are raptured.
Christians who say Jesus wont rapture a bloodied bride dont know their scripture. In revelation chapter 5 John wept because no one is worthy to open the seals. Then one of the elders says do not weep, the Lion of the tribe of Judah has triumphed, He is able to open the seven seals. When John looked, he saw a Lamb that looked like it had been slain. I dont understand why its ok for Jesus to suffer, the disciples, Christians from Stephen to now, Christians in the middle east, china, all around the world to suffer marryredom, but dont tell an American Christian they might have to suffer for their faith.
Sorry this is so long. I believe Matt 24 v30 v31 Jesus is describing the rapture and John describes the same event when the 6rh seal is opened.
GBY
It appears we may know the same people. 😊
😂😂😂that story was hilarious
IF THE TRIB STARTED TOMORROW THEN YOU WOULD KNOW THAT IN SEVEN YEARS THE LORD WOULD RETURN NO ONE KNOWS
God can give them false visions and a delusion.
Joel, Jesus stated "When you see all these things happen, know that the end is near. This generation shall not pass til all these things be fulfilled". What things? All those things Jesus enunciated in the previous verses in Ch 24. However, it all starts with the "budding of the fig tree". This was in 1948 with the advent of the "rebirth" of Israel! God said "The time of men shall be three score and ten years! If by strength four score years"! A generation is not longer than 80 years! I believe we have actually entered into the 7 years of tribulation. Can I say that "as gospel"? No I can't... But I can not find another Biblical reason for MORE than 80 years from the time of Israel coming into existence again.
Look at their fruit
Fruit and their doctrine
Deuteronomy 13 is the test for any prophet/teacher. That test should be applied to the words of anyone who teaches, prophecies, shares dreams, or interprets. Paul, the apostles, and even Yeshua are subject to the Deuteronomy 13 test. I believe the apostles and Yeshua passed the test, but many teachers today do not.
"The Day of the LORD" is one day":
1) A unique day without light, except at even-time (Zec 14:6-7).
2) A day like none other (Jer 30:7).
3) The day of the Harpadzo-Rapture (1Th 4:17-5:2).
4) The day of the coming (singular) of the Lord Jesus Christ our gathering (2Th 2:1-2)
5) A day of darkness and thick gloom (Joel 2:2, Amos 5:18 )
6) A day of wrath (Zeph 1:15).
7) A day of trumpet blast (Zeph 1:16).
8) A day of destruction from the Almighty (Is 13:6-8).
9) A day of vengeance and recompense (Is 34:8, Jer 46:10)
10) "The Last Day" Jn 6:39-40,44,54), the day when the dead in Christ will be resurrected, and the present heavens and earth will subsequently be burned-up with intense heat (2 Pet 3:10-12)
11) "That Day" (Mt 24:36) In the Greek text ,"τῆς ἡμέρας ἐκείνης", literally, "of that the day", all spelled singular, hence, one day.
Once saved always saved, first sign.
Giving a date on anything, second sign.
Women preachers, third sign.
Not loving others, fourth sign.
Bringing pagan traditions into the church, fifth sign.
Timothy and Titus tell us who can be a church leader and if you are not following those instructions, sixth sign.
If you refuse to remove sin out of the church then you will receive the wrath of God!
Biblical prophecy had to do with the lord and his kingdom, not the next president. That has nothing to do with Jesus. It is a magic 8 ball prediction, not a prophecy.
"Equates those," not "equivocates those." God doesn't equivocate.
The false prophets of the old testament which preached peace and safety were famous, preaching what the masses wanted to hear! The true prophets such as Jeremiah and Isaiah and all other prophets who warned the people of judgment to come, were not famous! The same is for today! For when "They" shall say peace and safety? Then cometh sudden destruction upon them as travail upon woman with child, and "They" shall not escape................ ....... As it was in the days of Lot: they did eat, they drank, they bought, they sold, they planted, they builded. But the "Same Day " that Lot went out of Sodom it rained fire and brimstone and destroyed them all. Likewise also shall it be in "The Day " when the Son of man is revealed.
Genesis 19:?? Where did those two men go? Don't confuse a prophet and an Angel
Yeah, revival is coming lol. Falling away is what my bible says.
Been a Christian for 56 yrs & only heard last week of pre-trib teaching that "the falling away" is the RAPTURE.
I was severely chastised for not believing their view. APOSTASY went right over their collective heads when it was shown them via BibleHub. Instead, they gave names of pastors who preach this doctrine. 😮
Anybody who thinks they're a prophet is not a prophet And trying to prophesy is not there right. God appoints Prophets.
The church rapture is at judgement day
John 6 39-54 Jesus says at the Last day four times. Jesus is truth keep the faith
Revelation 21 New earth no more days
What "own Spirit". There is the "Spirit/attitude/perception of the flesh, honest or not. For the believer there is the Spirit/Mind/Heart that is being transformed to be more like Christ.
The false prophets from their own human spirit and not the Spirit of God
@@wjdyr6261 Yes, we know that. the point I am trying to make is that our human spirit (as a believer) is being transformed into being more like God's ( and no I am not saying we become Gods, capital G." God does not animate a person, as in possession, even when speaking the Truth as God wants, the individual has to choose to speak. And they either speak from the unregenerate in them or the regenerate.
THIS YEAR IN JERUSALEM HEBREWS 12 22 REVELATION 5:9. WE WATCH AS JESUS TAKES THE BOOK AND OPENS SEALS IN OUR AUDIANCE
I wonder what all your faithful followers will think of you during the tribulation; after the rapture. If I was falsely prophesying a post tribulation, works based theology, I might consider moving out of the country and taking donations online, just-in-case. Anathema Maranatha! Let's Go!!!!
Galatians 1:9
“As we said before, so say I now again, If any man preach any other gospel unto you than that ye have received, let him be accursed.”
King James Version (KJV)
Back at you...respectively 😊
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The term Maranatha is used only once in the Holy Bible KJB. I don't think you know what it means.
"Anathema, Maranatha" translated means you are cursed, and God will return to judge the unbeliever.
Who created a space force bringing war into heaven!
Trump's ifirst nauguration dance was with melania....ainalem ai-nail-em!
The hole in the wall was put there by a needle and abominations were put into the temple
First wo 2020060606
The abomination of desolation....
Count the days
I find the narcissistic attitude so sickening and lame. Dude! I realize you moved your headquarters to Jerusalem, but you're NOT JEWISH! We are not waiting in anticipation for "the time of Jacob's trouble". If you are a born again believer you are waiting for the rapture; to be present with the LORD, which is the crown of righteousness. The day of the LORD is a terrible dark day which no one should look forward to! Woe unto you, you who works iniquity. Anathema Maranatha!
Amos 5:18
“Woe unto you that desire the day of the LORD! to what end is it for you? the day of the LORD is darkness, and not light.”
King James Version (KJV)
The Bible is a Catholic book ❤
The deception that concerns me more than any other is The deception of my own mind. Absolutely the worst kind of deception.
May theLord be wt all of us and not let us fall inTo selfDeception or any kind of deception. LordJesus helpUsAll.
Yea, that is where Holy Spirit of Jesus comes in real handy as He keeps us in His embrace and rebukes the whispers of Satan that tries to infiltrate the mind so we would accept the lies and be troubled, But glory and thanks be to Jesus for our God keeps us His children through all the ups and downs of life. The gospel of Jesus; His grace; His finished work, truly is power beyond human words, that the deception is ultimately rebuked and sent back to where it belongs, the pit of hell.
May our Lord Jesus always the comforter and no matter what may come your way, may His eyes be upon your eyes to see what our God sees and know with assurance that His love for us has defeated death already. Even though we are still having to ride on the bumpy road until Jesus rescues us, may His Spirit of truth always be the reminder of His truth which is His comfort and assurance that no one or nothing will snatch us His children out of His embrace. Glory to Jesus for He truly is our good God whom never abandons His sons and daughters whom believe His gospel of His grace is the truth. ❤
Same, brother. I have to rely strongly on God’s sovereignty and remind myself that my walk with Him is one that grows in maturity.
Ask the Holy Spirit to teach you each day the things you need to know and He will. A year from now you will be so so peaceful inside with no fear. Keep reading your bible and ask for discernment each day.
My greatest fear is if n when I am put to the test I will fail my lord and savior. LORD Give me strength to enDURE until the end
Thank you brother. This is timely and very much needed in this time.
My continued prayer daily is: "Lord, do not let my love grow cold, and do not let me fall away" as well as "Father, do not let my brothers and sisters fall away, or let their love grow cold and prepare them with fire and zeal with understanding to endure to the end as You have commanded..."
Our Lord Jesus bless you continually with what He has for you. May it be that the gospel of Jesus; His finished work on the cross be stamped in each one of our hearts that with everything we can boldly go before our Father, knowing with assurance that His embrace never lets go of His children. Surely there is much comfort and rest supplied to us His children by being grounded on the simplicity of the gospel of Jesus. Holy Spirit surely moves mountains. Glory to Jesus for His gospel is like no other and being children in Christ, we can boldly approach the Throne of God, even in the midst of stumbles, our Father takes our hand and embraces us with a love which also is like no other. 🕊❤🕊
@@John_Lete ,....You don't even know what the gospel is.
I opened the book of Mathew 24, prayed for help, at that time believing in pre trib rapture. The Holy Spirit came to teach me that day that when Jesus says "immediately after" that means AFTER. Sure it also says He will come when NO ONE expects, As a theif in the Night. Letting us know that so much will be happening in this world, we will not be watching unless we are ALWAYS watching. Post trib is the Day if the Lord. Thats when He comes for the remnant left.❤️🙏👋
No, Jesus said IF YOU DO NOT WATCH, I will come upon you like a thief. By the way, the rapture does occur in Matthew 24, but it's not the gathering of the elect at the end of the tribulation (FROM heaven, not TO heaven), no the rapture is "one will be taken, one will be left". Jesus teaches this clearly associating the rapture with the days of Lot and the days of Noah, the clear message being that both Noah and Lot escaped BEFORE the judgement came.
@@aftonline Matthew 13:30
Let both grow together until the harvest: and in the time of harvest I will say to the reapers, Gather ye together FIRST the tares, and bind them in bundles to burn them: but gather the wheat into my barn.
Lot and Noah never left the earth, sin filled as it was. The hand of the Lord guarded them through the escape and the storm. ❤
@@aftonline When Jesus says, "About that day knows no man..." He is not referring back to something that is not even in the text of the chapter. He is referring back to the coming that He just mentioned a few verses prior. Were the disciples able to read the mind of Jesus, and discern that He was referring to something that Pretribbers claim was not revealed until it was revealed by Paul ten to twenty years later?
"They will see His COMING on the clouds..."
"Just as in the days of Noah, so it will be at the COMING..."
And if you want to compare the rescue of Noah and Lot with the rapture, they do NOT teach an imminent rapture. Pretribbers claim that the rapture comes without any warning, suddenly. Both Noah and Lot were warned, and neither were taken off the earth. In the story of Noah, the entire world was destroyed. There were no left behind tribulation saints. In the story of Lot, the entire city was destroyed and Lot, fleeing in fear, ended up in a cave raped by his daughters. Is that how the rapture works? No! Scripture is comparing Abraham who chose to dwell in Bethel (the house of God) and Lot, who chose to make his home in the world. Abraham was faithful, while Lot was lukewarm, saved as one who barely escapes the flames.
Preach it, for it is written Matthew 24:31 And he will send his angels with a loud trumpet call, and they will gather his elect from the four winds, from one end of the heavens to the other.
( No secret or pretrib rapture, Glory to God in the name of Jesus Christ for the discernment from the Holy Spirit. )
@@aftonline The ones left behind are raptor food. Jesus states, in the very same teaching, that Noah was kept safe while the LOST were taken away in the flood!
Where are the taken, taken to? Where the birds of prey gather.
Thanks again Joel and FAI. There is danger in that many will run out of oil and their lamps will go out.
I was just thinking that
Amen
As someone who has used a clay oil lamp on many occasions, I can testify that a lamp that is running out of oil puts out a very terrible stench! Believers 2000 years ago would have known that when hearing this parable, but most today don’t realize how offensive they can become if low on oil!
@@gtw4546VERY WELL STATED! Thx.
Many will fall away from disappointment
Well, it's being taught that the falling away IS the rapture 😮😮😮
@@anneramirez6612 Well, when you have no scriptures to back up your fantasy, you get desperate and start twisting meanings and making false claims about the Greek and Hebrew words used in the Bible.
“The orks are coming over the wall”……?? Hmmmm…..That phrase must be similar to “there’s Klingons on the starboard bow, Captain…… “😅😅😅 Just kidding. Seriously, this is an excellent teaching and has me wondering in what ways I have deceived myself. Thank you.
Orks, of Lord of The Rings fame, and yes, much like Klingons boarding Starship Enterprise. Only worse.
Pre-trib people are very hardline, I've found. If I dare to suggest in the comments of their videos that they should at least tell their followers to prepare for the worst, just in case they are wrong, I get very hard replies back. They tell me how right they are and how wrong I am. I find it difficult to understand why they are like that. It's as if they are trying to defend their view to themselves as well as to me. I think that may be what it is, that they are trying to convince themselves that they will escape the suffering to come. How could Jesus let them suffer? I have listened to their reasonings and checked my bible. Nowhere have I found evidence of a pre-trib rapture. I just can't get through to them with my arguments. We must pray that they find the truth before they are confronted with what may overwhelm them. Like you, Joel, I would be so thankful not to face the horror to come. I would be laughing if I were saved in a pre-trib rapture. Just not expecting it. Praying the Lord will get me through it. Bless you for all you do. Maranatha.
My comments are usually deleted, no matter how respectful and lovingly I try to ask them to consider a scripture or ask the Father in the secret place for knowledge and wisdom..... The only thing I can come up with is 2 Thessalonians 2:10, 11. (my paraphrase) V10 they received not the love of the truth (their heart/flesh wants to fly away and not go through pain of tribulation) v11 for this cause God shall send them a strong delusion, that they should believe a lie. (𝙞𝙛 𝙞𝙩 𝙞𝙨 𝙂𝙤𝙙 who is sending the delusion because He knows their heart, there's nothing I can say to change their mind.)
I actually made some notes earlier, from my own study following this series. I believe that Dalton covered these in episode 3.
Gathering Together (Rapture) of the saints to Jesus
- Matthew 24:27-31 [lighting comes from East, so will be coming of the Son of Man, sign of the return of the Lord matches 6th seal, lightning matches 7th trumpet]
- 1 Thessalonians 4:15-17 [gathering at the Lord's return, dead in christ rise first, trumpet call of God]
- 2 Thessalonians 2:1-3 [not gathered unless man of lawlessness comes first, i.e. antichrist]
- 1 Corinthians 15:51,52 [changed in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trumpet]
Hope that helps a bit 😊
The reason why many pretribbers are very hardline is because sadly, for many of them, their faith is rooted in emotions and not facts. They NEED pretrib to be true. Emotions evoke a very strong response. I have spoken to several pretribbers who have gone as far as saying that if the rapture doesn't happen before the tribulation starts then they'll doubt the entire Bible. It seems for some, their faith depends on being kept out of harms way - and this is a perfect example of why the Church needs purifying through trial.
It is not a coincidence that pretrib is the predominant belief in the Western world - Westerners with easy, comfortable lives don't want to contemplate persecution or to think about their lives being interrupted and so pretrib is very appealing to them. Imagine how appealing the promise is of hot meals, daily showers and your favourite ball game right up until the end. Pretrib appeals to the weakness of the flesh.
I have debated many dozens of pretribbers and what starts out as a relatively cordial debate often degenerates into them name calling when they run out of arguments. I have been called 'pure evil' for questioning pretrib. I've been called 'unsaved' numerous times. All they have are slurs because they can't debate the plain fact that pretib is a patently obvious false doctrine that is so easy to debunk it really takes no effort at all and one must be willfully blind to deny it.
I was ran out of a local church the day I questioned their stance on pretrib, having worshipped there for nearly two years. Their position was: "We're pretrib - either you're pretrib too or you're out". Pretrib is a cult.
Just ask them if they are willing to carry the cross and suffer for Jesus. Do not have to say they are going to, but ask if they are willing to.
@@stormyweather3546 I did mention standing for Jesus and enduring as he did for us if so called but I was accused then of a works-based faith.
Thank you for directing us to sober minded thinking grounded in Him the living Word for this hour. God bless you and all of FAI. ❤
I feel sorry for the people that believe in pre tribulation
Self-deception is often done without awareness… blindly accepting doctrines & dogmas of men that have been handed down as “truth” from our spiritual leaders. Be Bereans!!! 🙏
Easily done sadly in our sluggishness, especially in our comfort loving lives in the West. Too much emphasis on men, not enough seeking after God first and foremost. 'Let God be true and every man a liar'. The fact God does not lie and it's almost impossible for man not to is enough for me to trust blindly in what others say without fact checking the bible carefully
Preach it brother Joel. With more of the confidence of our Lord.
Brother you are a voice crying out in the wilderness. Thank you for this great series. It is an excellent tool to share the truth with the many christians (sadly the majority I feel) who believe the pre-trib lie. Have a joyous Succot as we await the Messiah's return. Maranatha!
This is such an important message! It's when people that are in reputation and honour, such as those holding the title of pastor for instance, start teaching the pre-tribulation false "idea" that the most harm is done because people feel that they are in safe hands with a pastor and especially one that presents his beliefs in such a fluent and persuasive manner and so people will start flocking there in droves. It's very sad.
Revelation 22:18-19 DIRE WARNING IF YOU ARE A Teacher OR PASTOR REVELATION 20:4-6 FIRST RESURRECTION John 6: 39,40, 44,54 FIRST RESURRECTION
Anytime I'm listening to a preacher...teacher or anyone and they say pre trib rapture I'm thinking they r deceived can't listen anymore
Same with RAPTURE to represent the 1st Resurrection (Rev 20). I know they don't know Scripture. Also, the word GLOBAL or GLOBE in their presentation.
Enoch (Priest & Prophet)
@@ClintonBrownell Yep. Also claiming the word FIRMAMENT means the 'expanse' of space. Also preachers claiming to know God's Word and his creation, then waxing lyrical about how amazing the Universe is and how it demonstrates God's awesomeness. Completely fooled and deluded.
I enjoy your teaching Brother Joel. When you said in one of your videos to not be Dogmatic....it resonated with me because Holy Spirit impressed that on me prior to watching you. To me it was confirmation that I heard clearly from the Lord . Peace and MARANATHA Brother ✌️💯
Revelation 22:18-19 says:
“For I testify to everyone who hears the words of the prophecy of this book: If anyone adds to these things, God will add to him the plagues that are written in this book;
And if any man shall take away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God shall take away his part out of the book of life, and out of the holy city, and from the things which are written in this book.”
Revelation 22:18-19
It may turn out to be a salvation issue. To have one’s “part taken out of the Book of Life” is devastating eternally. We know what will happen to those whose names are not found in the Book of Life and the Pre-Trib rapture is adding and taking away and there is a very real danger in doing that.
I agree, if they would just teach it could be this or be that. But they teach it so strong if you don't beleive the pretrib, your not a real Christian
I tried to warn ppl to be prepared in case they were wrong. I got attacked...vehemently.
Thankyou for sharing this video. I appreciate the time and energy it takes to make a video like this. But you do know I have to now make a video about this. But I promise to be respectful. And I have some thoughts about false prophets and what happens to the true prophets that are encouraged to not speak out. I think of Jeremiah. How many prophets came against him because he was saying destruction is coming. Jeremiah was abused. So sad. Anyway. Keep up the good work it helps me create my own content.
A necessary message that hopefully will bear fruit!
Thank you for this awesome series! 👏❤
Much love to you Joel your wife and Dalton’s Dallas warnings truths! (Judah
I just do not like the term, because literally everyone who claims to be a prophet of today is always from a false church. Same with claiming to cast out demons, false church. So, God is giving all this authority to people who do not even know the truth? No.
Thank you for speaking the truth!
Im with you Joel!! I love a rousing debate over theology !! I wish more people speak and preach the truth!!! You guys have been my spiritual food since I had a Jesus encounter and came to Christ ❤🫶🙌
Amen and pastor Joe schimmel. Check him out
GodBlessU Joel and your family ..love y'r hilariousStories:)) LordJesus helpUsAll.