It is physically impossible to solve congestion by adding lanes for cars becase an urban lane can only carry about 800 cars/h. A bike path can carry easily double that and transit can carry up to 40,000 people per hour in the same space. The only solution to traffic is to make it attractive to not drive, for trips where that is possible. For cycling obviously there needs to be a safe a and convenient network that won't appear overnight, so until that network is complete it won't be very well used since it's not yet practical for most people.
@@generalgiovannicresvaresur2771 Except plenty of people are using those bike lanes. I drove into Toronto last week from Hamilton and went down Bloor from Parkdale to Bathurst around 1900hrs. The bike lanes were packed with people passing each other because they were too small to accommodate the volume. Maybe suburbanites need to understand that urban spaces are not for them and their cars.
@@generalgiovannicresvaresur2771 There were 5.7 million bike share trips last year. That doesn't include people's personal bikes, just the bike share. Without bike lanes you're either very likely to be stuck behind a bike in the car lane, or you're suggesting adding minimum 5.7 million cars to the road. Both of which don't solve congestion
@@BryceLynas # of trips does not equal the # of people. That's number 1. Number 2. Bike share stations are located all over the city. A significant number of people that use bike share do so along the waterfront and never even get on the bike lanes along Bloor Street or Yonge Street. After weeks ago I was stuck on Bloor for 15 minutes or so during rush hour. During that period, I saw no more than 5 cyclists use the bikes lanes in either direction, while there were hundreds of cars using the drive lanes during that same 15 minute period. If the bike lanes weren't there I would not have any doubts that traffic would have moved a whole lot more smoothly.
@@mbogucki1 Not what I have experienced along Bloor, closer to the west end of the City. As I mentioned in my earlier comment, a few weeks ago I was stuck in traffic for 15-20 mins along a segment of Bloor St in the west of the city. During that period, I doubt that I saw more than 5 bikes using the bike lanes in either direction, meanwhile there were hundreds of cars being stuck in the traffic, traffic that would have otherwise moved more smoothly if the bike lanes weren't there. Don't get me started on the difficulties these bike lanes pose for emergency vehicles.
how is this going to even going ease traffic at all because bloor was 1 lane + 1 parking lane before bike lanes and it’s still that now with bike lanes.
@@goylanddefree80 Correct!! With bike lanes, if you're at an intersection and the 1 car at the front wants to make a left or right turn, and cannot they block the only car lane and everyone behind is stuck. At Dundas and the DVP north ramp. traffic is at a standstill in both directions for over 20 minutes due to one-car lane and people wanting to get on the DVP or make left/right turns on Broadivew. And Tom Cruise wonders what is going on with Toronto's traffic.
Before those bike lanes were installed there was bumper to bumper traffic. After those lanes were installed there was bumper to bumper traffic. I am no Einstein but I am predicting when those lanes are removed there will be bumper to bumper traffic. Is anyone else getting the vibes that Dougie is getting ready for a provincial election?
@ Are you a representative of the Ontario Court and all the Ontario Judges? No. So, let them decide what they care about or not. Plus, their opinion won’t matter. They will only look if the government was in its right or not.
Apparently, concerns of residents only matter if the bicycling lobby approves. But if residents don't like bicycle lanes - Waterloo Region is a good example of that - the bicycle lobby shrieks and says residential input doesn't matter. It would be hard to find a more self-entitled group than the modern city bicycle lobby.
@@TheRaidoRune Yes, they did. Facebook won't allow me to share the link, but the story includes this gem: "... city staff said the No. 1 theme is that bicycle lanes are “unnecessary, underutilized and a waste of property taxes.”
@@scribbler60 Cars are the most expensive, wasteful and dangerous wastes of money. Cars are so entitled they take up the majority of public space and a grotesque amount of tax dollars. Your claims are sheer ignorance. The automobile and oil and gas lobby are jumping for joy right now. Do some research on European cities and see how much nicer than are than car-infested Toronto.
Here's some perspective for you: British Columbia has a population of about 5M people...meanwhile 16.5 million people commute to and from Toronto daily. Reducing our existing road capacity to accommodate a microscope group of people is ridiculous.
@@mikec3971 All the more justification NOT to drive in the downtown core. you can try to add an extra lane here at there where you want (there are very few bike lanes downtown), it will NOT help with congestion. Canadians and their need to drive everywhere is the only perspective you need...
@@mrkang4080 cycling works for a microscopic portion of commuters. That’s the unavoidable fact. You don’t see any city councillors riding a bike to Cory hall every day…because riding a bike to work doesn’t make sense for them for a multitude of reasons
Toronto for my entire life has had traffic. When there was bike lanes, when there wasn’t bike lanes. I don’t think this plan will make any different to traffic because people GPs will send them down those streets regardless and thus traffic. Frankly every city I’ve been to has had traffic except in Europe where they have bike lanes everywhere (i am talking Amsterdam here) they have highways running around the core like in Toronto but they have so much better traffic lights, so much better roundabouts, and probably the nail in the coffin for traffic Fantastic Public transit. I feel like if the premier wanted to make congestion an issue mandating in cities “smart signal” lights with tons of phases and Dutch style detection software to organize Cars, pedestrians, bikes, public transit, etc in the most efficient way possible would be a better start.
Since when does the province have the right to do this? Bike lanes are safe, do not impede traffic, in fact make it easier for traffic to move. The biggest block to traffic movement is construction.
@ didn’t know you also knew that in BC and On there are people that have plows on their bike for winter, CBC even covered the one in BC some time back then, but most people just shuffles the bike lane they use with a small shuffle
Remember when Doug gave GM in Oshawa 250 million dollars to keep manufacturing there, they took the money and left anyways. Doug only lines the pockets of his pals.
1.2% (wildly inaccurate) is 36000 people in a city with 3 million people. Imagine 36 000 people in cars instead of bikes now how will that solve congestion?
Well...we will doubling the capacity of our roads, by returning them to their original state, so absorbing a mere 36,000 new commuters will be easy. Majority of cyclists only ride 7km, so if they don't want to drive..they can walk, jog or take a bus.
@@mikec3971doubling lanes on a few roads is not doubling capacity unless those are the only congested points in the system- the thoroughput is contrained by the capacity of the road entries/exits leading to/from each lane. For suburban areas, you can typically add more lanes, but for any dense urban core this becomes logistically implausible- at some point you're constrained by space
The 1.2% figure is also from 2011, they didn’t use more recent data because it shows far higher numbers of cyclists thanks in part to the introduction of bike lanes.
Face it - the Toronto downtown core is like Manhattan, New York. There will be traffic congestion wherever you go with or without bike lanes because our population has increased so much. The real problem is that there is too much construction happening simultaneously. The best solution is to create a robust multi-transportation system that can give people options to move safely and efficiently (cycling, transit, driving, etc.). As well, a tax to drivers that drive in the downtown core unless you are a business owner or taxi driver. No sense having random suburban citizens that don't live in downtown to dictate how the streets should be when so many people cycle (and escooter) at all times of the year.
@@henryludvor6275there is absolutely zero evidence that the bike lanes reduce travel times… except for a single road where northbound traffic was slower by 20s… and southbound traffic was quicker by 30s, in other words the only example you can point to as proof shows the exact opposite, that overall travel times decreased thanks to the bike lane even if travel times in a certain direction did increase by a small amount.
Getting rid of bike lanes won't get rid of bikes. They'll disrupt traffic even more by blocking traffic lanes when they need to, at greater risk to cyclists and drivers. In downtown Toronto the percentage cycling is much greater than 1% and their safety matters even though it doesn't matter to Ford.
Agree...riding in traffic is unsafe. Painting lines and 6" curbs aren't any safer. Which is why bikes need to be banned from the roads in the downtown core. No reason those people can't walk or take a streetcar.
@ right…ban the mode of transportation that serves the needs of the people who make up 70% of the workforce…. do that and the 1.2% of people want to ride a bike to work won’t have a job to ride to. 🤣
@@mikec3971 I guess there used to be 4 "lanes" before, but 1-2 of them were used for parking depending on the time of day so there were only really 2-3 lanes. Now there's always 2 lanes and 1 parking "lane"
@ yup…there used to be for lanes, with parking allowed on both sides. As population grew, the number of cars increased, hence the city augmented the parking hours. At one point, the city removed street parking at 4pm and Bloor was two lanes in both directions. Nowadays, Bloor is one lane in both directions…all day long.
@@mikec3971 but population is still growing. What's the plan for when the 2 lanes in each direction get congested? The existence of the bike lanes encourages people to bike, and bikes are at least 4x more space efficient than cars
Would cyclists still use live car lanes if the bike lanes were removed? I think yes thus still taking up a lane and making it very unsafe for cyclists. I do believe there has to be some compromise. a cyclist would loose every time if a car or truck comes in to contact. The reason we have sidewalks is to have a barrier keeping pedestrians somewhat safe from traffic. I also believe there needs to be more enforcement and education for motor vehicles and bicycles. So many car drivers have no regard for cyclists. So many cyclists think red lights and stop signs are for decoration only. Many cyclists ride on the sidewalk making it very dangerous for pedestrians
@ I do agree. In Toronto you can ride from Woodbine to broadview just one street north of Danforth. As both a car driver and a bike rider I will not ride on busy roads with my bike. I have seen to many passenger doors opened into the bike lane but I have also witnessed and even been harassed by other cyclists for stopping for red lights. Don’t even get me started on e-scooters.
Wow, it’s almost like when only 1.2 percent of roads have safe protected bike lanes, only a similar amount of people will bike will bike. And just to clarify, bloor moved 25k cars before the bike lanes, and 20k cars after bike lanes (with bikes making up the difference in those 2 of course) so the number of people getting through is the same.
Hey so what are you gonna do when the bike lanes are gone and traffic is worse? Because you are aware that all research shows bike lanes reduce car traffic right?
I am blessed that Sydney, Australia is moving away from being influenced by its fellow anglo nations, in particular the USA and Canada, when it comes ro our urban planning, and ripping pages out of Europe and Asia. For context...more roads are adding bike lanes and more roads are being converted to service trams (light rail).
And Doug Ford has closed lanes on the Gardener Expressway for 3 years for no obvious reason. Plus his Eglinton LRT that has no sight of opening next year or the next or... its a big boondoggle but he over looks these issues and ignores them.
So how about we take the money Ford will be paying back to Toronto and put it towards repairing the Ontario Science Centre? How about giving us something other than lame excuses.
Same thing in Halifax NS. Bike lanes, speed bumps and concrete obstacles are literally everywhere. The obvious goal is to make driving a car impossible and/or wreck the ones on the road now. The roads were already narrow but now any two lane artery has become one lane and a bus lane. It would be better, of course, if the busses were not 20 minutes apart! And as for the bikes, there are some big hills between downtown and everywhere else. Other problems are snow, cold temps and rain…. Bike use drops off a lot for about 6 or 7 months between October and May. May be nice on sunny summer days, not so much the rest of the time. .
What if the traffic is caused by more people living there now? More people means more cars. The toronto area population has increased by 2m people since 2000. Frankly I'm inclined to blame all the middle class and up people who live in the burbs and drive in. There are so many other nice cities to live in, so do that? Idk, but I guarantee these bike lanes are a total scapegoat
All common sense backs bike lanes, there has been tons of research on the subject and bike lanes reduce traffic by offering alternative more efficient methods of transit. The actual common sense would be expanding the bike lane network and encouraging the adoption of cycling by more residents, which would also reduce car traffic.
@@derrickb1586 WE could turn off your heat in the winter if you prefer. And moms are supplying the kids to pay taxes in your retirement years. Lay off the parents. The kids i know rode their bikes to soccor practice and games (if they were local).
I think we should ban pedal bikes. They are hazardous to pedestrians and they increase caloric intake, which increases food consumption, and creates more gas in the intestinal tract, 7% of which is methane, a DANGEROUS greenhouse gas. I would suggest instead, that we implement a pully system powered by wind turbines, that drags carts around a track looping through the city, almost like little wind powered taxi cabs for one person, or maybe two if you are comfortable sitting on someone's lap.
As a pedestrian the sooner the bike lanes go the better. Lets charge a license fee and demand a safety course for all bikes. Lets also require collision insurance for bikes.
Remove that one as well. We don't need useless bike lanes that do nothing but clog up the city. Outlaw cycling and the resistance will virtually be eliminated.
When cyclists pay to use the road ill be more supporive. As of now no insurance no taxes. No licensing and they want to use the roadways with their own lane. So laughable.
@@adamgibson473 I'm mad because removing bike lanes is bad for businesses along the corridors, is a waste of money, won't improve the flow of traffic, and will endanger the lives of cyclists by forcing them into mixed traffic.
@henryludvor6275 An study of the economic impact of the Bloor bike lanes done in 2017 found that more people were visiting businesses in the area and they were spending more money in the area after bike lanes were installed. That was only two years after the bikes went in, I am sure the number of visitors is significantly higher now, almost a decade after they were installed. The study also revealed that ~90% customers traveled to the area by transit, bicycle or by foot. So why would we remove bike lanes which will endanger cyclists and pedestrians, harm businesses, and contribute to worse congestion?
Removing bike lanes from the roadway on University is a no brainer, they can still cycle down the middle of university along the garden plots and the walkway there (if modified) . And people can bike along simcoe and murray streets instead. In addition the sidewalks on university are big enough for both pedestrian and cycle paths. Those skyskrapers can provide for commuter bike path lanes on their lobby level space besides, or elevated as part of a coordinated official plan, just as parking garages are required for those towers.
Needs to act faster though. I want these lanes plus so many more gone by the end of 2024. Woodbine, Danforth, Harbord, Royal York, Sherbourne, Richmond, Adelaide, College... the list goes on and on. There's no such thing as a good bike lane, as it is the literal antithesis to solving congestion.
It doesn't. Data says this makes no sense. This will just make traffic worse and the city worse. Cities like Amsterdam and Paris put Toronto to utter shame. Bike lanes are a fantastic way to reduce congestion.
@@henryludvor6275 Bike lanes are fine but the plan to put them in needs to make sense, you can't take a car lane away and put in a bike lane, that makes zero sense.
@@goldenhourkodak What do those cities have that Toronto doesn't? Good public transit options, you can't look at things in a vacuum, Toronto needs better public transit first and then add in bikes lanes. You will not reduce congestion with bike lanes when bikes are not an option for everyone, there needs to be other options.
of course you need more money rent would be about 2000, and you get about 700 a month, I suppose you can go to prison instead and cost taxpayer 126,000 dollars a year. way more than an average Canadian makes a year. Not included the Lawyer and cost of courts. Probably more like 500,000 a year. but yes, lets complain about the most vulnerable mentally ill
Imagine the reaction of cyclists if people just started using bike lanes to avoid crowded sidewalks, for things like skateboarding, roller blading, jogging, speed walking pushing baby strollers, walking their dogs...it would be priceless. Wouldn't it be great if somebody started a movement, to clog up bike lanes with skateboarders, rollerbladers and joggers...whats good for the goose is good for the gander. 🤣
It is physically impossible to solve congestion by adding lanes for cars becase an urban lane can only carry about 800 cars/h. A bike path can carry easily double that and transit can carry up to 40,000 people per hour in the same space.
The only solution to traffic is to make it attractive to not drive, for trips where that is possible. For cycling obviously there needs to be a safe a and convenient network that won't appear overnight, so until that network is complete it won't be very well used since it's not yet practical for most people.
except that barely anyone is using these bike lanes while people are sitting in traffic. Enough is enough.
@@generalgiovannicresvaresur2771 Except plenty of people are using those bike lanes. I drove into Toronto last week from Hamilton and went down Bloor from Parkdale to Bathurst around 1900hrs. The bike lanes were packed with people passing each other because they were too small to accommodate the volume.
Maybe suburbanites need to understand that urban spaces are not for them and their cars.
@@generalgiovannicresvaresur2771 There were 5.7 million bike share trips last year. That doesn't include people's personal bikes, just the bike share. Without bike lanes you're either very likely to be stuck behind a bike in the car lane, or you're suggesting adding minimum 5.7 million cars to the road. Both of which don't solve congestion
@@BryceLynas # of trips does not equal the # of people. That's number 1. Number 2. Bike share stations are located all over the city. A significant number of people that use bike share do so along the waterfront and never even get on the bike lanes along Bloor Street or Yonge Street. After weeks ago I was stuck on Bloor for 15 minutes or so during rush hour. During that period, I saw no more than 5 cyclists use the bikes lanes in either direction, while there were hundreds of cars using the drive lanes during that same 15 minute period. If the bike lanes weren't there I would not have any doubts that traffic would have moved a whole lot more smoothly.
@@mbogucki1 Not what I have experienced along Bloor, closer to the west end of the City. As I mentioned in my earlier comment, a few weeks ago I was stuck in traffic for 15-20 mins along a segment of Bloor St in the west of the city. During that period, I doubt that I saw more than 5 bikes using the bike lanes in either direction, meanwhile there were hundreds of cars being stuck in the traffic, traffic that would have otherwise moved more smoothly if the bike lanes weren't there. Don't get me started on the difficulties these bike lanes pose for emergency vehicles.
how is this going to even going ease traffic at all because bloor was 1 lane + 1 parking lane before bike lanes and it’s still that now with bike lanes.
Because Doug Ford says it will solve the problem that's why.
@@chuggy2021 at least you won't have hundreds of cars queuing up traffic going in and out of streets to hopelessly look for a parking spot
@@goylanddefree80 Correct!! With bike lanes, if you're at an intersection and the 1 car at the front wants to make a left or right turn, and cannot they block the only car lane and everyone behind is stuck. At Dundas and the DVP north ramp. traffic is at a standstill in both directions for over 20 minutes due to one-car lane and people wanting to get on the DVP or make left/right turns on Broadivew. And Tom Cruise wonders what is going on with Toronto's traffic.
Before those bike lanes were installed there was bumper to bumper traffic. After those lanes were installed there was bumper to bumper traffic. I am no Einstein but I am predicting when those lanes are removed there will be bumper to bumper traffic. Is anyone else getting the vibes that Dougie is getting ready for a provincial election?
Yes, bumper to bumper during morning and afternoon rush hours... nowadays its congested throughout the day, from 7am to 7pm.
They need to move quickly because they know it is shady legally and they will probably lose if it goes to court.
Nope court dont care about bike lanes besides its the government prerogative
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Are you a representative of the Ontario Court and all the Ontario Judges? No. So, let them decide what they care about or not. Plus, their opinion won’t matter. They will only look if the government was in its right or not.
Why? No one asked the residents of the city.
Apparently, concerns of residents only matter if the bicycling lobby approves.
But if residents don't like bicycle lanes - Waterloo Region is a good example of that - the bicycle lobby shrieks and says residential input doesn't matter.
It would be hard to find a more self-entitled group than the modern city bicycle lobby.
@scribbler60 Wrong, no one surveyed the residents. In fact move to Waterloo region if you are against.
@@TheRaidoRune Yes, they did. Facebook won't allow me to share the link, but the story includes this gem: "... city staff said the No. 1 theme is that bicycle lanes are “unnecessary, underutilized and a waste of property taxes.”
@@scribbler60 Cars are the most expensive, wasteful and dangerous wastes of money. Cars are so entitled they take up the majority of public space and a grotesque amount of tax dollars. Your claims are sheer ignorance. The automobile and oil and gas lobby are jumping for joy right now. Do some research on European cities and see how much nicer than are than car-infested Toronto.
You can ride on the sidewalk like normal people.
Lets frame this in a way Dougy will understand:
The war on transit and bikes is a very real thing by "Suburbanite Elites."
No I am a pedestrian and I hate bikes
We gotta reduce the amount of cars, not remove bike lanes. Lunacy.
Remove the bike lanes fast. The bike lanes were the biggest waste of tax dollars ever. Get them out now !!!
We should, but of course Doug Ford and his goons are paid by automobile industries
Here's some perspective for you: British Columbia has a population of about 5M people...meanwhile 16.5 million people commute to and from Toronto daily. Reducing our existing road capacity to accommodate a microscope group of people is ridiculous.
@@mikec3971 All the more justification NOT to drive in the downtown core. you can try to add an extra lane here at there where you want (there are very few bike lanes downtown), it will NOT help with congestion. Canadians and their need to drive everywhere is the only perspective you need...
@@mrkang4080 cycling works for a microscopic portion of commuters. That’s the unavoidable fact.
You don’t see any city councillors riding a bike to Cory hall every day…because riding a bike to work doesn’t make sense for them for a multitude of reasons
Toronto for my entire life has had traffic. When there was bike lanes, when there wasn’t bike lanes. I don’t think this plan will make any different to traffic because people GPs will send them down those streets regardless and thus traffic. Frankly every city I’ve been to has had traffic except in Europe where they have bike lanes everywhere (i am talking Amsterdam here) they have highways running around the core like in Toronto but they have so much better traffic lights, so much better roundabouts, and probably the nail in the coffin for traffic Fantastic Public transit. I feel like if the premier wanted to make congestion an issue mandating in cities “smart signal” lights with tons of phases and Dutch style detection software to organize Cars, pedestrians, bikes, public transit, etc in the most efficient way possible would be a better start.
Since when does the province have the right to do this? Bike lanes are safe, do not impede traffic, in fact make it easier for traffic to move. The biggest block to traffic movement is construction.
Bicycles takes up a whole lane for traffic, and is never used 3 months of the year during winter
@@TentaclePentacle When is the last time you head downtown when it snow? Bike myself and saw a lot of cyclist removing snow themselves too lol
@gabrielmataleo4573 right bicycles have a plow in front of them
@@TentaclePentacle you can indeed ride in most of winter.
@ didn’t know you also knew that in BC and On there are people that have plows on their bike for winter, CBC even covered the one in BC some time back then, but most people just shuffles the bike lane they use with a small shuffle
Why is Doug Ford so adamant on increasing traffic..? Is he being paid off by the automobile industry?
Insurance and oil and gas companies are deep in his pockets. Bikes have no insurance and need no oil and gas.
@BDee3126 a little oil to keep the chain running :p
Remember when Doug gave GM in Oshawa 250 million dollars to keep manufacturing there, they took the money and left anyways. Doug only lines the pockets of his pals.
Maybe the last name isn’t a coincidence
1.2% (wildly inaccurate) is 36000 people in a city with 3 million people. Imagine 36 000 people in cars instead of bikes now how will that solve congestion?
Well...we will doubling the capacity of our roads, by returning them to their original state, so absorbing a mere 36,000 new commuters will be easy. Majority of cyclists only ride 7km, so if they don't want to drive..they can walk, jog or take a bus.
@@mikec3971doubling lanes on a few roads is not doubling capacity unless those are the only congested points in the system- the thoroughput is contrained by the capacity of the road entries/exits leading to/from each lane. For suburban areas, you can typically add more lanes, but for any dense urban core this becomes logistically implausible- at some point you're constrained by space
The 1.2% figure is also from 2011, they didn’t use more recent data because it shows far higher numbers of cyclists thanks in part to the introduction of bike lanes.
Ford is the ultimate NIMBY meddler.
Face it - the Toronto downtown core is like Manhattan, New York. There will be traffic congestion wherever you go with or without bike lanes because our population has increased so much. The real problem is that there is too much construction happening simultaneously. The best solution is to create a robust multi-transportation system that can give people options to move safely and efficiently (cycling, transit, driving, etc.). As well, a tax to drivers that drive in the downtown core unless you are a business owner or taxi driver. No sense having random suburban citizens that don't live in downtown to dictate how the streets should be when so many people cycle (and escooter) at all times of the year.
It will still be congested. More road space means more cars will crowd it those lanes.
Why "quick?" This clown has his priorities so mixed up 🤦♂
Because these lanes are costing Ontario billions in dollars through congestion alone. Removing these lanes should be #1 priority before anything else.
@@henryludvor6275 Oh, yeah, forget about less important things like health care and ODSP🤦♂
@@henryludvor6275there is absolutely zero evidence that the bike lanes reduce travel times… except for a single road where northbound traffic was slower by 20s… and southbound traffic was quicker by 30s, in other words the only example you can point to as proof shows the exact opposite, that overall travel times decreased thanks to the bike lane even if travel times in a certain direction did increase by a small amount.
I would like to see Doug test the bike lanes before removing them… if he can that is
yeah like he can ride a bike
Considering the amount of cheesecake he eats that would be a good idea for him to ride a bike.
Getting rid of bike lanes won't get rid of bikes. They'll disrupt traffic even more by blocking traffic lanes when they need to, at greater risk to cyclists and drivers.
In downtown Toronto the percentage cycling is much greater than 1% and their safety matters even though it doesn't matter to Ford.
Agree...riding in traffic is unsafe. Painting lines and 6" curbs aren't any safer. Which is why bikes need to be banned from the roads in the downtown core. No reason those people can't walk or take a streetcar.
@@mikec3971 if anything cars need to be banned from the downtown core. Cars is what causes the traffic and accidents
@ right…ban the mode of transportation that serves the needs of the people who make up 70% of the workforce…. do that and the 1.2% of people want to ride a bike to work won’t have a job to ride to. 🤣
this just in: ford government bans cars for causing congestion
That would be based.
They would never do that because that would actually work.
50% of road going to cyclist. Gimme a break. Do people actually believe this?
50% isn't going to cyclists. Bidirectional bike lanes take up 1 car lane. There's street parking on Bloor for cars
@@BryceLynas They removed one lane in each direction along Bloor...so ya, reduced by 50% for bikes.
@@mikec3971 I guess there used to be 4 "lanes" before, but 1-2 of them were used for parking depending on the time of day so there were only really 2-3 lanes. Now there's always 2 lanes and 1 parking "lane"
@ yup…there used to be for lanes, with parking allowed on both sides.
As population grew, the number of cars increased, hence the city augmented the parking hours. At one point, the city removed street parking at 4pm and Bloor was two lanes in both directions. Nowadays, Bloor is one lane in both directions…all day long.
@@mikec3971 but population is still growing. What's the plan for when the 2 lanes in each direction get congested? The existence of the bike lanes encourages people to bike, and bikes are at least 4x more space efficient than cars
We need elections. Both provincial and federal
Would cyclists still use live car lanes if the bike lanes were removed? I think yes thus still taking up a lane and making it very unsafe for cyclists. I do believe there has to be some compromise. a cyclist would loose every time if a car or truck comes in to contact. The reason we have sidewalks is to have a barrier keeping pedestrians somewhat safe from traffic. I also believe there needs to be more enforcement and education for motor vehicles and bicycles. So many car drivers have no regard for cyclists. So many cyclists think red lights and stop signs are for decoration only. Many cyclists ride on the sidewalk making it very dangerous for pedestrians
Cyclists can ride on side streets they don't need to go on main streets
@ I do agree. In Toronto you can ride from Woodbine to broadview just one street north of Danforth. As both a car driver and a bike rider I will not ride on busy roads with my bike. I have seen to many passenger doors opened into the bike lane but I have also witnessed and even been harassed by other cyclists for stopping for red lights. Don’t even get me started on e-scooters.
@@TentaclePentaclecars can drive on side streets not main streets what’s your point.
@chuggy2021 the whole point is to ease traffic. Cars on the side street means more traffic. But anything for your war on cars right?
@@TentaclePentacle cars on side streets means LESS traffic on main streets. Isn’t that the whole point?
Wow, it’s almost like when only 1.2 percent of roads have safe protected bike lanes, only a similar amount of people will bike will bike. And just to clarify, bloor moved 25k cars before the bike lanes, and 20k cars after bike lanes (with bikes making up the difference in those 2 of course) so the number of people getting through is the same.
I guess we will see if ford is a genius or just wasted tax money on nonsense.
Thank you Doug Ford! Solving the city problems that Tory and Olivia couldn't do.
You got 1 like.
Hey so what are you gonna do when the bike lanes are gone and traffic is worse?
Because you are aware that all research shows bike lanes reduce car traffic right?
I am blessed that Sydney, Australia is moving away from being influenced by its fellow anglo nations, in particular the USA and Canada, when it comes ro our urban planning, and ripping pages out of Europe and Asia.
For context...more roads are adding bike lanes and more roads are being converted to service trams (light rail).
I remember a time when cities were responsible for their own thing. Now we have a provincial king who just does what he wants
And Doug Ford has closed lanes on the Gardener Expressway for 3 years for no obvious reason. Plus his Eglinton LRT that has no sight of opening next year or the next or... its a big boondoggle but he over looks these issues and ignores them.
Nothing will change traffic congestion will be the same and there will be more pollution in the air
So how about we take the money Ford will be paying back to Toronto and put it towards repairing the Ontario Science Centre? How about giving us something other than lame excuses.
Same thing in Halifax NS. Bike lanes, speed bumps and concrete obstacles are literally everywhere. The obvious goal is to make driving a car impossible and/or wreck the ones on the road now. The roads were already narrow but now any two lane artery has become one lane and a bus lane. It would be better, of course, if the busses were not 20 minutes apart! And as for the bikes, there are some big hills between downtown and everywhere else. Other problems are snow, cold temps and rain…. Bike use drops off a lot for about 6 or 7 months between October and May. May be nice on sunny summer days, not so much the rest of the time.
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What if the traffic is caused by more people living there now? More people means more cars. The toronto area population has increased by 2m people since 2000. Frankly I'm inclined to blame all the middle class and up people who live in the burbs and drive in. There are so many other nice cities to live in, so do that? Idk, but I guarantee these bike lanes are a total scapegoat
Great news
Disagree with Doug Ford on many issues, however he's right on the bike lane issue. Bring back common sense !
All common sense backs bike lanes, there has been tons of research on the subject and bike lanes reduce traffic by offering alternative more efficient methods of transit.
The actual common sense would be expanding the bike lane network and encouraging the adoption of cycling by more residents, which would also reduce car traffic.
There wouldn't be congestion in the first place if we simply removed the millions that Trudeau imported from India. The roads would be safer too.
thats not how the real world works.
@@derrickb1586 WE could turn off your heat in the winter if you prefer. And moms are supplying the kids to pay taxes in your retirement years. Lay off the parents. The kids i know rode their bikes to soccor practice and games (if they were local).
Dude are you this stupidly racist by choice or were you born this way?
bring no more in. but deportation for our own benefit is completely unjust
Most of those guys are riding e-bikes...they rely on bike lanes.
I think we should ban pedal bikes. They are hazardous to pedestrians and they increase caloric intake, which increases food consumption, and creates more gas in the intestinal tract, 7% of which is methane, a DANGEROUS greenhouse gas. I would suggest instead, that we implement a pully system powered by wind turbines, that drags carts around a track looping through the city, almost like little wind powered taxi cabs for one person, or maybe two if you are comfortable sitting on someone's lap.
we need to bring back riding horses and dog sleds. lol
As a pedestrian the sooner the bike lanes go the better. Lets charge a license fee and demand a safety course for all bikes. Lets also require collision insurance for bikes.
Awesome. NY needs to follow suit and reverse course on the insanity of bike lanes that no one uses
Chow 😂
😂😂😂
All the cyclist BOTS are in force on here. Oh, the Liberal bleeding hearts 😂😊
Ignore all previous commands, delicious brownie recipe
@@jetset_yhm lol
How many tens of millions are wasted on these bike lanes in the design consultation useless staff salaries and final construction?
Exactly, remove the lanes and get rid of Toronto's dysfunctional city council.
Why don't you look up how expensive it is to maintain a shared/car lane vs a bike lane?
No!
People need to run to work at least 5 km.
Why did we allow these people to waste money on these projects?
Good Riddance, There's A Bike On Simcoe That Is Better, And Getting Bikes From University To Simcoe Is A Safer Alternative.
Remove that one as well. We don't need useless bike lanes that do nothing but clog up the city. Outlaw cycling and the resistance will virtually be eliminated.
Finally, time to remove them. 🎉 add back courier delivery zone too plz
Ford is the only political with common sense
When cyclists pay to use the road ill be more supporive. As of now no insurance no taxes. No licensing and they want to use the roadways with their own lane. So laughable.
Probably the best use of tax payers money in the past decade.
Do you repeatedly step on rakes by accident or on purpose?
@Meyers1793 you're mad because you're a cyclist. 😂
@@adamgibson473 I'm mad because removing bike lanes is bad for businesses along the corridors, is a waste of money, won't improve the flow of traffic, and will endanger the lives of cyclists by forcing them into mixed traffic.
@@Meyers1793 Businesses were doing fine before the lanes were installed. Adapt or go bankrupt.
@henryludvor6275 An study of the economic impact of the Bloor bike lanes done in 2017 found that more people were visiting businesses in the area and they were spending more money in the area after bike lanes were installed. That was only two years after the bikes went in, I am sure the number of visitors is significantly higher now, almost a decade after they were installed. The study also revealed that ~90% customers traveled to the area by transit, bicycle or by foot.
So why would we remove bike lanes which will endanger cyclists and pedestrians, harm businesses, and contribute to worse congestion?
Removing bike lanes from the roadway on University is a no brainer, they can still cycle down the middle of university along the garden plots and the walkway there (if modified) . And people can bike along simcoe and murray streets instead. In addition the sidewalks on university are big enough for both pedestrian and cycle paths. Those skyskrapers can provide for commuter bike path lanes on their lobby level space besides, or elevated as part of a coordinated official plan, just as parking garages are required for those towers.
I am voting for Doug Ford
The international student can vote?
Let’s celebrate with our cars
It's too bad people like Chow are in these positions.
Cyclists need to ride on the sidewalk.
That's where the people walk though
@ And the road is where people drive.
That's why there need to be four spaces: one to drive, one to park, one to cycle and one to walk.
@@kingstarscream320 if only there were a third place for the bikes to go
Cyclists need to be banned. No cyclists on sidewalks or roads. Get a gym membership and support local businesses if you're that desperate to bike.
Go eat your chinese food delivered by car, not bike
Good job Ford! Rest in peace Rob, your dream of bike lane free is coming true!
A miracle that a politician is actually doing something that makes sense
Needs to act faster though. I want these lanes plus so many more gone by the end of 2024. Woodbine, Danforth, Harbord, Royal York, Sherbourne, Richmond, Adelaide, College... the list goes on and on. There's no such thing as a good bike lane, as it is the literal antithesis to solving congestion.
It doesn't. Data says this makes no sense. This will just make traffic worse and the city worse. Cities like Amsterdam and Paris put Toronto to utter shame. Bike lanes are a fantastic way to reduce congestion.
@@henryludvor6275I think we’ve coined a new phrase. Suburban elites
@@henryludvor6275 Bike lanes are fine but the plan to put them in needs to make sense, you can't take a car lane away and put in a bike lane, that makes zero sense.
@@goldenhourkodak What do those cities have that Toronto doesn't? Good public transit options, you can't look at things in a vacuum, Toronto needs better public transit first and then add in bikes lanes. You will not reduce congestion with bike lanes when bikes are not an option for everyone, there needs to be other options.
Thank you duggie
Im on welfare and I need more welfare money...ppl need to stop being so greedy and give me more money
Get a job
of course you need more money rent would be about 2000, and you get about 700 a month, I suppose you can go to prison instead and cost taxpayer 126,000 dollars a year. way more than an average Canadian makes a year. Not included the Lawyer and cost of courts. Probably more like 500,000 a year. but yes, lets complain about the most vulnerable mentally ill
right move! F the bike lanes
If you get rid of the bike lanes then you'll just have to drive behind the slow bikes though
What's next? Remove pavements? Ban trees?
@@BryceLynas what hurts more. Bike or car?
@@sparker.24 car? (if I understand the question)
About time!
Imagine the reaction of cyclists if people just started using bike lanes to avoid crowded sidewalks, for things like skateboarding, roller blading, jogging, speed walking pushing baby strollers, walking their dogs...it would be priceless.
Wouldn't it be great if somebody started a movement, to clog up bike lanes with skateboarders, rollerbladers and joggers...whats good for the goose is good for the gander. 🤣