Angry Photographer: ALL 85mm NIKKOR Supreme Roundup!!

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  • Angry Photographer: ALL 85mm NIKKOR Supreme Roundup!!

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  • @sorryaboutthatchief9094
    @sorryaboutthatchief9094 5 років тому +23

    All practical and functional considerations aside, the lens porn factor on the 1.4 d is 10!

    • @jamesjackson4264
      @jamesjackson4264 5 років тому +3

      Bombastic Elastic got that bad boy for like $440. For that price it’s a better pick over the 1.8g. They going for crack prices these days.

  • @serviola3
    @serviola3 6 років тому +9

    I agree with Ken , the 85mm 1.4 ais, is the best 85mm I ever had. I dont know what you test, but It is simply the best.

  • @413TomaccoRoad
    @413TomaccoRoad Рік тому +4

    The 85mm 1.4 is an EXCELLENT casual portrait lens. I really liked the one I got in '84- a lot.

  • @dandruff9244
    @dandruff9244 Рік тому +2

    Had the g version ...sold it and got the D version

  • @Narsuitus
    @Narsuitus Рік тому +1

    Thanks for the video.
    In 1969, I purchased the Nikkor 85mm f/1.8 as my second lens for my Nikon F camera (the 35mm f/2 was the first). My 85 was the pre-AI version that I sent to Nikon for conversion to AI. I used my 85 in a 35/85/180mm kit that I used primarily for black & white film reportage. In 2002, I replaced it with the 85mm f/1.4D autofocus version which I use primarily for color portraits.
    Since my older Nikon film cameras need aperture rings, I avoid G lenses.

  • @smalltalk.productions9977
    @smalltalk.productions9977 4 роки тому +2

    These AP 4-5yrs old vids are still relevant. At least to me! Kenny-for portrait indoors/outdoors on Nikon FX body which: Nikon 85/1.8G or Tokina 100/2.8. As always, thanks for your insights.

  • @avistrader9126
    @avistrader9126 5 років тому +1

    A quick note, I owned a 85mm 1.8D and sold it because I did not see any difference between my nikkor zoom 70-210mm 4-5.6D at 85mm besides bokey, one can shoot at 1.8 the other will do it at f4 at 85mm. The nikkor 70-210mm 4-5.6D push pull is tek sharp and very fast with focusing a recommendation.

  • @millertime6
    @millertime6 7 років тому +2

    Ok, I was going to get rid of my 85 1.8g but now I'ma keep her. Thanks again, Angry

  • @Brian-fm6hx
    @Brian-fm6hx 9 років тому +9

    Own the 85mm AI-S 2.0 love it!

  • @SabotPottery
    @SabotPottery 3 роки тому +1

    I had the f/2 version for 30 years but 3 years ago I upgraded to the Zeiss 85 f/1.4 over any of the Nikon offerings and couldn't be happier.

  • @ManyDoors777
    @ManyDoors777 9 років тому +27

    Which lens attracts chicks the most?

  • @richardhaw9757
    @richardhaw9757 9 років тому +2

    I have owned the 1.8D before. the bokeh is pretty smooth but my copy was not sharp until f/2.8. i hope that the new G version could beat that wide open.

  • @jganun
    @jganun 3 роки тому +1

    Not just California Ken, but the author, Moose, on the 85mm 1.4 manual. I have to confess to having bought the 85 ƒ1.4 AfD simply because I was charmed by the metal exterior.

  • @iyaz4004
    @iyaz4004 5 років тому +2

    my friend i need a reply, please
    i have a nikon D610 bought used, good condition.
    i want to save money but want get good quality pictures too. in your opinion what is a good compromise?
    should i get a 85mm 1.8D or G ?
    pls help, thanks in advance

    • @anhhct
      @anhhct 4 роки тому

      Get the G version if you can afford it. It's sharper and easier to focus in low light, especially with the not so excellent focusing system of D610. The build quality is not as great as the D, but D610 is a small body anyway.

  • @johandenhertog6878
    @johandenhertog6878 8 років тому +2

    I liked the Nikon 85mm f/1.4D IF the best lens with my two Nikon D3 and my Nikon F5. I used the lens since 1996 and it's a beautiful piece of glass. Not razor sharp than my Nikon 105mm DC and my Nikon 135mm DC. Most of the time i used manual override than AF mode. My best portrait lens is the 105mm DC because 9 out 10 it's heaven..Yes i used a old Nikon D3 but it's make great A3 photos.

  • @jvladcliff4083
    @jvladcliff4083 4 роки тому +2

    Love my 85/2.

  • @dickieboy007
    @dickieboy007 5 років тому +2

    Thanks for this one Kendo.. Just got the 1.8D 👌

  • @TheBushrodd662
    @TheBushrodd662 8 років тому +1

    So between the 85mm 1.8G and the 85mm 1.8D, which one would you recommend the most if you could choose one? And why?

  • @harris-design
    @harris-design 9 років тому +5

    After watching lots of your videos, I have confirmed that I have made some good lens choices.
    20 mm f/2.8 AF D
    50 mm f/1.4 G
    60 mm macro f/2.8 AF D
    85 mm f/1.8 G
    180 mm f/2.8 MF AI-S ED - I haven't seen you post anything about this one.

    • @guitarwinds
      @guitarwinds 9 років тому +1

      ***** He's mentioned the 180mm f2.8 I believe, I think it was in one of the telephoto videos

    • @KenTheoriaApophasis
      @KenTheoriaApophasis  9 років тому +1

      *****
      check
      check
      check
      check
      double check
      winks ;)
      i did make a video while ago about 180mm 2.8
      its no diff. than the 180mm 2.8 in THIS VIDEO

    • @KenTheoriaApophasis
      @KenTheoriaApophasis  9 років тому +2

      ***** all of those are damn winners ! !!!
      Ohh, i made 2 videos on the 180mm 2.8

    • @harris-design
      @harris-design 9 років тому +1

      Theoria Apophasis I'll have to find those 180 vids. Thanks. You ROCK!

  • @staticvideo
    @staticvideo 6 місяців тому

    Man, I like your realistic approach to lenses. But I do have a question for you. how does the 85mm f1.8d stack agains the 85mm f2 ai/s for video use and does it retain similar character to the ai/s? I’m looking into it for my nikkor set and I’m stuck between the two. Thanks!

  • @kristofburm6969
    @kristofburm6969 4 роки тому

    Hi Ken, chances are odd you will respond tot this, but not trying isn't going to work for sure so here's a question:
    Would you pick the Nikon 85mm 1.8 over the Tokina 100mm 2.8 for product photography, like food and drinks?
    I bought a D700, the Tokina 100mm and the Nikon 28-85 3.5 4.5 on your recommendation, been loving every bit of it.

    • @danncorbit3623
      @danncorbit3623 Рік тому

      All the Nikon 85mm lenses have an 80 or 85cm minimum focus distance. Unless the product is huge, the Tokina 100mm will be a lot better for product photography since it is a macro lens. The bokeh of an f1.8 lens will be a little better, so there could be cases where the 85mm would give some advantage, but that would be the exception and not the rule.

  • @zz-fu9ys
    @zz-fu9ys 4 роки тому +1

    Would you prefer 85 1.8G or the 85 1.4D if the price is the same ? In terms of colour rendition and micro contrast

  • @RobertMossack
    @RobertMossack 9 років тому

    I just got an 85 1.8D in today that I only paid $200 for because it had a ding on the filter threads. I got that worked out, and it's otherwise perfect. I did own the non-D version way back in the day, and it's as nice as I remember.

  • @russpartee113
    @russpartee113 7 років тому +1

    ken rockwell smoking crack busted me up
    thanks for the video

  • @robertdumon2202
    @robertdumon2202 8 років тому +2

    Hi Ken... okay I recently added a D750 to my D7100 and my three Tamron SP "Holy Trinity" group of lenses (15-30mm, 24-70, 70-200). I've been getting wonderful portrait results from the 70-200mm, but am considering getting a Nikon 85mm f/1.8G mainly because it would be easier to handle than the big Tamron zoom. How would the image quality compare between the N85mm vs. the T70-200? Have you ever done a comparison between those lenses for portrait work? Can't afford the Tamron 85 sp or your Zeiss Planar. Need to stay under $500. Advice? This would be strictly for portrait work. Thanks. Time to send you another couple bucks. ; ) Bob

    • @KenTheoriaApophasis
      @KenTheoriaApophasis  8 років тому +1

      ahhhhhh…..the Nikkor 85mm 1.8G is a damn winner to be sure. compare? they dont, apples and oranges.
      the Tammy SP85mm, i used and tested , no dice on that lens :(
      under 500? easy, used nikkor 85mm 1.8G ……Ebay

    • @tommytuc1
      @tommytuc1 8 років тому

      Robert Dumon ohas plqoopiipio

  • @MrK67017
    @MrK67017 9 років тому +1

    One more quick question. ..is there a significant difference between the 85 mm f2 ai and the ai-s ???
    I've read optically no...

  • @Narwaro
    @Narwaro 6 років тому +3

    Used all the 85s, sticked with the AIS 1.4. The latest 1.4G or 1.8G is a tad sharper wide open, but they are pretty much equal from f2 on. The AF one is slightly inferior. Portraits are slow and I shoot a lot of manual cameras, too, so I do not own an AF(-S) version. Perfect on a D3 from f2 and perfect on a D850 from f3 on. If you get one for around 400$, thats a steal. Can’t confirm this lens is inferior.

  • @GoGrJr
    @GoGrJr 3 роки тому

    Hey Ken, have you used the 85mm 85mm f2 on one of your GFX bodies? I had one years ago for my X-T2 but sold it. Thanks a lot!

  • @jvanterpool
    @jvanterpool 9 років тому +1

    Hello AngryP,
    I like your true reviews and i believe in what you say about faster or $$$ is not always better. I have been having a dilema. I want to upgrade my D7000 to an FX or stay the same as DX. I have done a few weedings and friends family portraits. This is not my full time gig. Wondering if I should upgrade my cam or add more glass to my arsenal. I currently own tokina 12-24, nikon 35 1.8G DX, 50 1.8G and 80-200 2.8. I will like to add a classic 20, 85 2.0 and the 135 classic. Any advise on the D7100, D600, D800 or D700 I shot mainly portraits when asked.

    • @KenTheoriaApophasis
      @KenTheoriaApophasis  9 років тому

      jvanterpool
      ok, mainly portrait shots?! .......the question then becomes , what is your budget ? Forget the D600 period however.
      D800 used prices are too high and a bad value ($1500 roughly)
      D700 were going for $700 until i talked them up so much, now theyre sky high on ebay! (my fault).
      If your budget is up to $1600, a gray market D750 would be wonderful.
      but always yes on the glass to add,.......but the question remains that when you sell your D7000 thats enough to buy 2 of your lenses you want, but not the 20mm
      So , again, what budget on camera?

    • @jvanterpool
      @jvanterpool 9 років тому

      i just got back from KEH and snagged a beautiful 105 2.5 for 179 taxes included. Now you got me on track with the D750. the D700 you mentioned is nice and buttery on the image. Is the D750 similar? I have a friend who got a D700 and love it too. But I know the D750 might be a better choice in terms of ISO, buffer, mpx and others.
      Any insight will be appreciated. I want quality work out of the camera not extras that I will not use.

    • @KenTheoriaApophasis
      @KenTheoriaApophasis  9 років тому +1

      both will produce quality, but it sounds like you want the D750
      see recent videos with test shots from D700 and D750.
      105 2.5 is a wonderful lens :)

  • @tsdelaney
    @tsdelaney 4 роки тому

    I love my 1.8G and rate it juuuust behind my 180 2.8. Slightly different spectrum of use, but both are killer lenses!

  • @simonsimpson4695
    @simonsimpson4695 4 роки тому

    I've not questioned "the cat's ass" before but I think the phase is "the cat's whiskers" not, "cat's ass", more correctly "cat's arse". "Cat's ass" must be a combination of "the dog's bollocks" and "cat's whiskers".

  • @johnb4320
    @johnb4320 5 років тому

    Ken Rockwell pushes exspensive lenses. Before i found angry i almost bought a nikkor 200 f2 on his recommendation. And i dont think he ever had one in hand. Again thanks Ken.

  • @Coconut7403
    @Coconut7403 7 років тому

    What do you think of the 85mm pre AI?

  • @christiporter217
    @christiporter217 Рік тому

    What are your thoughts on nikon 85mm f1.8 not the d or g models?

  • @Seagull324
    @Seagull324 7 років тому +1

    Hi Ken. I'm struggling between this decision. To get the Nikkor 85mm F/2 Ai for $180 or Nikkor 85mm F/1.8D for $270. Which one should I get for using it wide open? I can NOT afford the 85mm F/1.8G.
    (sports photographer that's trying to use primes instead of the big 80-200mm to avoid ironfacing. I do need lenses that are faster than F/2.8 because that's surprisingly too slow in the environments I'm in)

    • @KenTheoriaApophasis
      @KenTheoriaApophasis  7 років тому +1

      you can get a 1.8 D for cheaper than that....... about $220+

    • @stevenstocking5855
      @stevenstocking5855 6 років тому

      Just picked up an f2. Seems nice so far but not done anything serious yet! 😉

  • @rectape
    @rectape 4 роки тому

    Hi, did you tried the 85mm 1.8 AI? How it compare to the f2 version?

  • @pixiedixie3187
    @pixiedixie3187 7 років тому +1

    I want to buy a portrait lens has to be an AI S one but I,m debating between 85 or 105 mm
    Any advice, will be most appreciated.

    • @JavierPhotoMX
      @JavierPhotoMX 4 місяці тому

      85 half body and couples, 105 face portraits.

  • @BlancGivre
    @BlancGivre 2 роки тому +1

    Thanks! Exactly what I wanted to know.

  • @rayfitz54
    @rayfitz54 7 років тому +2

    The first sharp prime I bought was a used 85 mm 1.8D. I was shocked at how sharp it is. A ton of saturation, and a bit contrasty.

  • @JB-dm5cp
    @JB-dm5cp 4 роки тому +1

    I own the 85mm f/2 AI. (And yes, I did also look at what Ken R. had to say.) Lovely combination with my Nikon FE and Nikon F301.

  • @RedHell2884
    @RedHell2884 Рік тому

    Hi sir
    How can I connect ais lens to dslr camera ?
    Tell me which one should I buy:
    F1.8 or f1.8 D or f1.8 G.
    Thanks

  • @walterarroyo5220
    @walterarroyo5220 Рік тому

    I will probably get made fun off here but I recently got a Nikon F-2 with a DP-1 photomic prism and a Nikkor K 85mm f/1.8 for free in lot of cameras someone was giving away. What do people with knowledge think about this older lens ?

  • @wSkrzypinski
    @wSkrzypinski 6 років тому +3

    Take the 85/1.4G and 85/1.8G outside on a portrait shoot and see how much how much the 1.4G is better at skin color rendition. Also, at the SAME EXPOSURE SETTINGS notice, that 1.4G lets more light through, making it effectively faster than by 2/3 of a stop relative to the 1.8G. If you go about it praising yourself, calling people who have other opinions idiots and calling what you say facts and not opinions, consider being a little more thorough about your own reviews. You know there is more to a lens than pixel-peeping. I am looking forward to seeing your updated review. Take care, Angry

    • @philismint88
      @philismint88 2 роки тому

      Hi! Have you ever used the 85mm f/1.4D? If so, how would you say it stands up to the 1.4G?

  • @Sabbra
    @Sabbra 5 років тому

    time to add the S model, is sharp AF and no color fringe at all

  • @valentinguiala7288
    @valentinguiala7288 10 місяців тому

    Ken,
    Is that Nikon 85mm f2 one of those radioactive lens that has thorium in its glass? If it does, what effects does it have on the pixels on my D700, D3 cameras? Is it safe to have on my camera body for a day of street photography? Thank you Ken.

    • @kalenderquantentunnel9411
      @kalenderquantentunnel9411 6 місяців тому

      No thorium in the 85mm lenses, none of them is known for yellowing. 😊 The only Nikkor affected I know of is the early 1.4/35 mm, there may be more, though.

  • @MrK67017
    @MrK67017 9 років тому

    Any thoughts on the Rokinon 85 mm f1.4 ??? I have the Nikon 85 mm f1.8 G and love it but have taken a liking to manual focus lens.
    The 85 mm Rokinon reviews have been pretty good but I've never considered the Nikon 85 mm f2 you referenced until your review.
    Thank you for your input on the 85mm f1.4 AI-S by the way. I'd been pinning for it as a manual focus addition but the asking price on Ebay was consistently over $550.00.

    • @KenTheoriaApophasis
      @KenTheoriaApophasis  9 років тому

      Ken Davis Rokinon = sandpapering your crotch ..
      nope on that pooper.
      85 1.4 isnt not worth it at all, just snag a 1.8 D for $300

  • @dimitarkaramitev8689
    @dimitarkaramitev8689 8 років тому +1

    Thanks for your video, Ken! I found a very used and cheap 85 1.8 D. Unfortunately, with the price increase in Europe, I can't afford the G version for my D3200. Do you think it is a good idea to buy the 85 1.8 D and use it manually for my portrait attempts? Thank you for your time!

  • @HSalamista
    @HSalamista 7 років тому

    Hi Ken, I am thinking about re-buing a Nikon micro nikkor PC-E 85mm f/2.8 D for the purpose of macro, architecture but also for portrait work. I used to have the previous PC generation 85 and loved it, but sold it for another lens. I have reviewed the design and it is also having 6 elements in 5 groups. Similar to the Zeiss 85 f1.4. Have you ever had this nikon lens? If I do not need the speed (1.4, plus I have the nikon 85 1.8 G) and I am fine to shoot portraits from f/2.8 upwards to f/8, would the 85 PC-E micro render similar to the 85 Zeiss? Thanks.

  • @tomhesse2015
    @tomhesse2015 6 років тому

    You said to get the d version 1.8 but not the info on its value as a portrait lens. Is tje 1.8d worth it to buy

  • @Phuzz828
    @Phuzz828 9 років тому

    Would be interested to know if you have any experience with 3rd party lenses. Samyang, Sigma's, Zeiss lenses. Thanks for the videos! :)

    • @KenTheoriaApophasis
      @KenTheoriaApophasis  9 років тому +2

      phuzzz82 indeed i do, i have one Zeiss, theyre very poor value and only about 3% superior optically and the rest is just their damn name.
      Samyang makes one nice WIDE lens, the rest are crap.

  • @babarfyi
    @babarfyi 9 років тому

    I have the 1.8G and i'm very happy with it. I do however remember that you crossed it out on a list a while ago. Was this a dream or did it refer to film cameras? Great vids btw

    • @KenTheoriaApophasis
      @KenTheoriaApophasis  9 років тому

      babarfyi well, the G costs more, and its not terribly better than the much cheaper D version
      you must have asked a price related question, of value or bang for buck.
      i cant remember.

  • @richardkev3077
    @richardkev3077 7 років тому +2

    You are absolutely correct. No one needs an 85mm f/1.4. Ever. There are lots of slower lenses that are sharper, lighter, cheaper. And your admonition against überfast lenses is especially true with modern digital cameras and their spectacular, high ISO performance.
    The only reason to have one, as you said yourself, is for artistic effects.
    So you're right on two out of three. The only thing I question is why you assume anyone who has one is some kind of idiot.
    I considered getting a Nikon AF-S 85mm f/1.8G. But I already have a perfect Nikon 75-150, which I use occasionally, and a Tokina 100, which goes everywhere with me. Adding an 85, no matter how sharp, would be a duplication and a waste of money.
    On the other hand, artistic effect...

    • @thorsrensen3162
      @thorsrensen3162 Рік тому

      I have the kit lens and take better pictures than most of those brats with expensive primes, can only agree that no one needs all that.

    • @413TomaccoRoad
      @413TomaccoRoad Рік тому

      I've had both the f/1.4 and f/2 at the same time. The 1.4 is better but the f/2 will get you 90% of the way there. If you're outdoors the f/2 is more than good enough.

    • @kpkjolso
      @kpkjolso Рік тому

      I have the 85mm f1.8 G, and is very happy with that lens.
      However,
      I tried a 85mm f1.4 ais (a friend of mine owns one), and l loved it. If it was a little bit cheaper l would definately buy one.
      I’m all for having strong opinions, but l don’t think anyone can claim that no one needs a f1.4. Lots of people spends lots of money on f1.2’s.
      If mr. Rockwell was here he may have asked; «who needs 3 of the 85mm f2’s??»
      Anyway,
      using the ais lens (85mm f1.4) was pure joy, going manuel was way more funny than l expected so based on this video l may go all in for the f2😊
      Its 40% of the price of a f1.4, that suits my price range👍

    • @413TomaccoRoad
      @413TomaccoRoad Рік тому +1

      I had both ais 85mm (1.4 and 2) At the time I loved the 1.4 and liked the 2. I now have the Voigtlander 58 1.4 and a Nikkor 85 1.8D. I had both 180mm 2.8 D and 2.8 ais. I sold the D. I like the look of less elements and groups.

  • @Admeralsarms
    @Admeralsarms 7 років тому

    for portrait whats better. the G or D? as far as saturation and rendering.

  • @andrewalmendarez6053
    @andrewalmendarez6053 3 роки тому

    Does the back element of the 1.8D come loose? I have a user condition one and even holding the focus ring at infinity and cleaning the back element there's a lot more play then I'd expect, i don't think it is the normal group af slop. Thanks!

  • @alexmirza5210
    @alexmirza5210 Рік тому

    The 85mm f1.4D is great at f2.8 though lol. And yes it makes a great hammer.

  • @michaelakamatsu
    @michaelakamatsu 9 років тому +2

    Just received an 85 f2 Ai-s purchased on ebay from Japan. Excellent condition and delivered to Austin in three days.

  • @jasper232
    @jasper232 5 років тому

    hi there, Nikkor af-s 85mm F/1.8G lens would work on Nikon D5600? Thanks in advance

  • @DoronTshuva770
    @DoronTshuva770 3 роки тому

    i know this is an old vid but i seen someone showing on a DOF calculator whats the difference between the 1.8 and 2.0 and on 2m you cant see it

  • @HiHelloHeyHello
    @HiHelloHeyHello 4 роки тому

    Without this knowledge I have bought 1.8D. I would say...by accident. And now I am more happy than before :)

  • @mark_nz
    @mark_nz 9 років тому

    Worth considering the Sigma 85 1.4 Ken, or roll with the Nikon 1.8G?

    • @KenTheoriaApophasis
      @KenTheoriaApophasis  9 років тому

      mark thode the Nikkor 1.8G 85mm is the worlds sharpest, lowest distortion 85mm, even more so than the 85mm 1.4G nikkor.
      i dont like its construction, but its optics are undeniable.

    • @mark_nz
      @mark_nz 9 років тому

      Thanks Ken! I'm not one of those 0.001% users either :)

  • @nodefx9030
    @nodefx9030 8 років тому +1

    totally agree with the ais 85/2 - what you think about the 135/2.8 is what i think about the ais 85/2. back in the days (when a F3 was the king on the hill) it was my favorite lens. if you want the same but with contrast and nice colors get the 90/2 leica R lens. even though it is made in canada it is still a very good lens and there are adapters to use it on a nikon. and it is cheap too.

  • @bobstevemd3265
    @bobstevemd3265 8 років тому

    Dear angry photographer I love your videos and have a question . iv been a photographer for 4 years I have a Nikon D3100 kit lens and 55 - 200 zoom . I only have 600 hounded dollars to spend should I up grade to a D700 or buy some nice glass ?

    • @namedjohnsmith6780
      @namedjohnsmith6780 8 років тому

      bobsteve md it may be to late, but always buy (good!) glass before you upgrade your body!

  • @TheTooMelLow
    @TheTooMelLow 7 років тому

    Please comment on the 85mm F1.8 (NON AI) in comparison with the lenses you have reviewed on this video

  • @jean-michelargentin208
    @jean-michelargentin208 7 років тому

    Hi Ken, I final got the Nikon Nikkor 85mm
    f/1.8D AF as you recommended...Shooting pictures back in the beginning of the 80s, I never own a 85mm lens ....But I got a steal it from an antique shop they didn't know what they had in the cabinet case,so I jumped on it but forgot to get a receipt..aha!!
    That lens is very difficult to shoot with it we requires lots practice even at 1/3200sec..I get blur images at f/1.8- how ever I realize that the subject should not move either that changes the plane of the focus to..
    So tell how did you get sharp images from the 85mm f/1.8??? What's your secret?

  • @VladPasculescu
    @VladPasculescu 9 років тому

    Theoria Apophasis So we had a conversation last week about me maybe buying a 60mm 2.8D micro....Long story short, I didn't.
    I traded in my 50mm for credit towards a new 85mm f/1.8G and I couldn't be happier. This thing is ridiculously sharp...dangerously sharp, in fact.
    It should seriously come with a warning label. Thank you for the video, it made my decision easier.

  • @caseyvee4419
    @caseyvee4419 9 років тому +8

    Ken, I agree with about 95% of your reviews, and I don't know how you could have gotten TWO bad examples of the 85/1.4 AiS, but it is the sharpest 85 I have ever owned, though I have not owned any of the autofocus versions. Here were my results, in brief:
    85/1.4 AiS- Best, by a pretty big margin
    85/1.8 Ai converted- 2nd, had two of them, both excellent, but not as good as the 1.4
    85/2.0 Ai marginally inferior to the 1.8
    Honorable mention: the 80-200/4.5 Nikkor, last version, with the rectangular rear opening, was pretty close to the fixed 85s, and considering it is a zoom, that is pretty amazing.
    So, Rockwell may have been on crack, but I guess I was too when using the 85/1.4 manual focus. Now, if you compare wide open to wide open, and thus a 1.4 lens to a 1.8 or 2.0, I feel there is an unfair comparison there. I usually make my primary comparisons at working apretures from 5.6 to 11.0, but if I compare a 1.4 to a 2.0, then I compare them at 2.0 on both, with sort of an asterisk to the fact that the 2.0 does not even have 1.4.
    Thanks for your great reviews, and like I said, I agree most of the time. ESPECIALLY on the Voigtlander 40/2.0 Ultron S II, mine is unbelievable!
    I don't know if you afford them or get loaners, but I would also like to see Zeiss Otus vs. Leica APO Summicron, in normals. Of course, the Leica can't be had in Nikon mount, which we both use.
    Thinking about starting my own channel at some point, comparing view camera lenses on 6x9 rollfilm cameras. A huge variety can be had at reasonable prices. Only issue is processing cost.

    • @KenTheoriaApophasis
      @KenTheoriaApophasis  9 років тому

      Casey Vee well you said youve not owned any of the AF versions
      so that nixes that conclusion :P
      the (albeit PLASTICY) 85mm AF D and AF G blow the hell out of all of those AI and AIS lenses :)

    • @caseyvee4419
      @caseyvee4419 9 років тому +2

      Theoria Apophasis But I was not addressing the AFs, only the MFs, and you said that the 85/1.4 MF was inferior to the 85/2.0 MF, correct? I found both the 85/1.4 and the 85/1.8 Ai converted lens to be better than the 85/2.0 MF. So, I am not saying they are better than the AF D or AF G, only that I found the 85/2.0 MF to be worst of the MFs. Also found the 105/2.5 Ai better than all of the 85 MFs except the 85/1.4, but then we are not comparing apples to apples any longer.

    • @KenTheoriaApophasis
      @KenTheoriaApophasis  9 років тому

      ive owned 2 of the 85mm F1.4, theyre insanely overpriced "collector" lenses, with blurry corners and generally a huge inferior large hunk of glass.
      they werent made all that long for good reason.

    • @caseyvee4419
      @caseyvee4419 9 років тому +4

      www.photosynthesis.co.nz/nikon/serialno.html#85
      Dude, what are you talking about? They were in production for 24 years! See above link. As far as sharpness, maybe I just got an unusually good one, but from about 2.8 down, it was deadly sharp.

    • @djmouglie
      @djmouglie 8 років тому +1

      +Casey Vee .. i was kind of surprised with his review too as i have the 85mm 1.4 ais. And i also owned the 1.8 D. But as i had both i decided to sell one of them, and i kept the 1.4 AIS.... I agree with Theoria that for most people the price difference is way to much for the extra stop, and they have been overhyped. But it is a very sharp lens. And it does some nice artsy fartsy low light stuff at 1.4. But it fits somewhere in the same place as the 50mm 1.2. You pay a lot extra for something that most people are not really going to use and you have to manually focus. So i understand the recomendation of the 1.8 d and g.

  • @leobargianni377
    @leobargianni377 7 років тому

    hi man, I'm about to do an experiment: since I'm a poor guy and i can't buy that 56mm 1,2 from fuji, I'm opting for a legacy lens to adapt on my xt10. so my idea was getting a lens turbo 2 from mitakon and try out an 85 nikkor. but here comes my question: since the 85 f2 and the 85 1.8d are very close in pricing on ebay, which one would you chose? thanks in advance!

  • @artromano8919
    @artromano8919 6 років тому

    does the 85mm f2 work with the auto indexing metering on the f2 nikon camera?

  • @badgrand
    @badgrand 4 роки тому

    Theo, could you please give me a quick verdict on the 85mm 1.4G?

  • @byalfredis
    @byalfredis 8 років тому

    Hello, how about 85mm tilt shift lens. In fact I've never seen you talking about any PC lenses.Please your opinion.

    • @KenTheoriaApophasis
      @KenTheoriaApophasis  8 років тому +1

      +alf redis PS can correct most of such issues, only a hardcore architectural or other photographer needs those

    • @byalfredis
      @byalfredis 8 років тому

      +Theoria Apophasis Thanks for getting back. Yes indeed these PC lenses are for product, architecture, landscape etc photographers but I'd like to know how you rate them in terms of optical quality, colour rendering etc. I appreciate your hones and open minded opinion on all Nikon gear. Anyway thanks again.

  • @ReadytoChop
    @ReadytoChop 3 роки тому +1

    You'll be so proud of me, I just bought 4 mint Nikkor Ai's that you recommended. I also just returned a Sigma 18-35 after doing some research and stumbling upon your rave reviews of it. But I'd like to think The Afghan Girl approached me in a dream begging me to return that awful "art" lens and buy a 105mm F2.5.

  • @fernandoopoka8269
    @fernandoopoka8269 7 років тому

    i have an 85 f2 very VERY similar to your AI-s, how can i send you a pic, i need to know if it is a good lens, and what lens is
    Specifically

  • @freyannia
    @freyannia 8 років тому

    Hi Ken, I'm looking for your advice. I have to choose between 2 lenses and I'm stuck. I am moving into portraiture photography, I have the f1.8 50mm (Ais) and I have a 35mm (1.8G) I now have funds for a new lens and I'm stuck between the 85mm 1.8G and 135mm f2.8 AIs. Both of which I can get at the same price. The choice is giving me a headache because I covet both lenses :/ Not a clue what to do. The likelihood is that the 135mm would be waaay too long for most of the indoor portraits but would be fine in a bigger environment. The 85mm would be ok I think (longish livingroom) both indoors and out, but I can't get past the want of the 135 haha! Don't know quite what to do. I don't want to buy one and regret not getting the other. Know what I mean?

    • @KenTheoriaApophasis
      @KenTheoriaApophasis  8 років тому

      +Karen Gray easy answer, 85mm 1.8G
      HOWEVER at that price, youre far far better off getting a 105mm F2 DC AF Nikkor for $720 used ebay

  • @21Gannu
    @21Gannu 8 років тому

    what would you choose 85mm or tokina 100mm

    • @KenTheoriaApophasis
      @KenTheoriaApophasis  8 років тому

      for what use???? Tokina generally

    • @21Gannu
      @21Gannu 8 років тому +1

      mainly for potraits. i felt like if i have tokina i could use for some other purpose too but im not sure how good it is for potraits.

  • @619RobdoG
    @619RobdoG 9 років тому +2

    1.8G rules supreme over all my other lenses for IQ

  • @BarbasMinecraft
    @BarbasMinecraft 8 років тому +1

    You don´t talk about the 85mm 1.4 AIS, why?

    • @KenTheoriaApophasis
      @KenTheoriaApophasis  8 років тому +1

      not that lens, no....i mention in other vids, its an overpriced 'good' , but overall poor value and not so hot/great

    • @BarbasMinecraft
      @BarbasMinecraft 8 років тому

      I love your videos

  • @manuelodabashian
    @manuelodabashian 7 років тому +2

    Avoid caffeine awful just occasionally

  • @Awuani
    @Awuani 5 років тому +1

    Missing the 85mm 1.5 S

  • @wakingminnie
    @wakingminnie 9 років тому

    how is the nikon 85mm 1.4 AIS ?

  • @RockTheCage55
    @RockTheCage55 8 років тому

    Man...i'm having the hardest time picking a lens and i need your advice. My son is only a few weeks from being born and i have in my budget for 1 lens. The 3 i'm thinking of are the 85mm 1.8g, the 100mm tokina, & 24-70mm 2.8 tamron VC. I only lens i have so far is 50mm 1.8d. This will be going on a D750 body. Any advice would be much appreciated.

    • @KenTheoriaApophasis
      @KenTheoriaApophasis  8 років тому

      +RockTheCage55 the REAL question is what R U gonna be shooting?
      certainly NOT that tammy lens for anything,...........both the tokina and 85mm nikkor are great for portraits, however the tokina is INFINITELY more useful for many things
      and macro is fun as hell.

  • @JR-ut8sx
    @JR-ut8sx 5 років тому

    In 90% plus of situations and considering the typical skill level of the average photographer and the real world results of output variations and lack of overall production control from shutter trip to print stage my personal opinion is you would be hard pressed to find a better overall value than the 85 f1.8 D version. Photographers need to think more about pay back (ROI) than being sucked in by theory and higher costs.

  • @kirk0831
    @kirk0831 3 роки тому +1

    85 1.4d is cheap now

  • @luiscpedro
    @luiscpedro 5 років тому

    Hello, Is it possible to explain how to work with the 85mm 1.4D IF lens on the D7100?
    If you lock in F16, you cannot use the aperture dial as it does nothing.
    THX

    • @danncorbit3623
      @danncorbit3623 Рік тому

      In order to use the old AI lenses, physically set the aperture to the largest value (it is f16 for the 85mm f1.4D). Push the lock button to hold it there. Since there are no electrical contacts, set up the lens information in the setup menu under 'non cup lens'. Give the lens number (probably 1 if you did not add any yet). Give the focal length of 85mm, and the maximum aperture of f16. Now the camera knows how to use the lens. You can use aperture priority and set the aperture electronically. Focus the lens using the focus ring and press the shutter button. All the other modes like program mode work too. HTH

    • @danncorbit3623
      @danncorbit3623 Рік тому

      Oops, the 1.8D is not AI, so you can skip the step for non cup lens. The cameras computer will both focus and set aperture.

  • @danncorbit3623
    @danncorbit3623 Рік тому +1

    Excellent information. I have the Nikon 85mm f/1.8 Manual Focus AI-S lens (not mentioned in your video). It has chromatic aberration and color fringing, so I convert to grey scale. But I really like the images it produces. They look like the images of the 1970s. Are they ultra sharp? No, but sharp enough. My sharpest 85mm for Nikon is the Rokinon 85mm f1.4 AS IF UMC lens (I think it was not even manufactured yet when you made your video and it's not a Nikon lens anyway.) But the sharpest lens is not what is always wanted, unless you want to see every wrinkle and pore in maximum detail. I understand that the new Z mount Nikon lens is ultra sharp, but I don't have a Z mount camera. On Canon, Sigma is sharpest but the Canon lens is sometimes to be preferred. I wish you made more Nikon videos, but I guess you are bored of it.

  • @southcoastkicks2771
    @southcoastkicks2771 9 років тому

    You and fro agree on one point... You both call Rockwell out for BS!

    • @KenTheoriaApophasis
      @KenTheoriaApophasis  9 років тому +2

      Southcoast Kicks not really, i call bs on SOME things, he just outright hates the guy.
      i dont.

  • @FotoCreatives
    @FotoCreatives Місяць тому

    It's not all about sharpness...for me it's all about a certain look. If you see every single hair on a woman's face because of the incredible sharpness...no thanks. The 85mm f/1.4 D have that special look!! G-version...no thanks!

  • @mengshilim7364
    @mengshilim7364 7 років тому

    Does the 85mm 1.8G have ring type SWM?

  • @serviola3
    @serviola3 6 років тому

    The 85mm 1.4 ai-s is the best 85mm I have ever had. A treasure to keep, and Heard to find.

  • @masumkhan4040
    @masumkhan4040 8 років тому

    hi ken. good morning from bangladesh.
    hey , did u try the new zeiss milvus 85mm 1.4? one of my friends sez he finds it better than the classic planar 85mm 1.4. I can't agree till I hear your verdict on this milvus 85 1.4.

    • @KenTheoriaApophasis
      @KenTheoriaApophasis  8 років тому +1

      +masum khan khan indeedy so. Your friend says that ehhh? mmmhmmm. What kinda of illegal narcotic does he smoke normally?
      :)

    • @masumkhan4040
      @masumkhan4040 8 років тому

      Ha got my answer. Thanks. Well for your answer I gotta ask him about wat he smokes! #GETANGRY

    • @KenTheoriaApophasis
      @KenTheoriaApophasis  8 років тому +1

      +masum khan khan i was gonna make a video tonight about the milvus, youll learn why its WORSE, its actually VERY logical
      what? newer lenses getting worse? YEAH......why???? youll find out why

    • @masumkhan4040
      @masumkhan4040 8 років тому

      Theoria Apophasis waiting for the upload bruh, tc. Good day

    • @KenTheoriaApophasis
      @KenTheoriaApophasis  8 років тому

      its UP NOW

  • @CarlyWaarly
    @CarlyWaarly 6 років тому

    On aesthetics alone, prefer to pick up the 1.4G than the 1.8G after that the lens does a job regardless, sharpness is relative and can be edited in post if needed.

  • @kylewood8327
    @kylewood8327 2 роки тому

    Skip this lens and get the 105mm 2.5 AI-S lens, better overall usefulness!

  • @paulringgenberg8866
    @paulringgenberg8866 4 роки тому +1

    It never fails I look and you’re reviewing the exact lens I wanted to hear about the 85 mm 1.8 g. It’s pretty inexpensive new and thank you so much for talking stuff about Ken Rockwell, I think he’s full of shit

    • @danncorbit3623
      @danncorbit3623 Рік тому

      Everybody is wrong sometimes. Ken Rockwell says never use raw, and I almost always use it. But if you look at the images he makes on his web page, they are fantastic. I never go by one person's advice. I examine several trusted sources and try it myself before I buy it.

  • @marecar900
    @marecar900 4 роки тому +1

    Silk sex and sugar ... I love you man hahahaha...
    Btw I always check your channel before buying any lenses! Great reviews, great comments and suggestions!

  • @dorfschmidt4833
    @dorfschmidt4833 9 років тому

    1.8 or 1.8D, both collect particles like crazy, futhermore the front group has a magnifying effect on them, makes it even more annoying.

    • @KenTheoriaApophasis
      @KenTheoriaApophasis  9 років тому

      Dorf Schmidt 1.8 D cannot suck dust from the rear element side, the non D can.

    • @KenTheoriaApophasis
      @KenTheoriaApophasis  9 років тому

      too true , .....reminds me, i miss my rolex!

  • @RedHell2884
    @RedHell2884 Рік тому

    In fact, your videos are excellent, but unfortunately my English is not strong enough to understand everything you say, especially since you are talking about the classic lenses that I love.
    Use google translate

  • @kyletanner6703
    @kyletanner6703 5 років тому +1

    Just agreed to buy a 85mm 1.4d for $500 :\

    • @jamesjackson4264
      @jamesjackson4264 5 років тому

      Kyle Tanner thats a win.

    • @jamesjackson4264
      @jamesjackson4264 5 років тому +1

      Three years ago the 1.8g was a better buy but prices on the 1.4d are perfect right now. They will be better in 3 years but that’s a long wait.

  • @mohamedhusseinmemo
    @mohamedhusseinmemo 9 років тому

    Theoria Apophasis man i have nikon d7200 and 35mm/f1.8 lens and it's not good for portraits but it's amazing for street photography and landscape and group photos. but now i want lens for portraits should i go for 85mm/1.8 but as you know it will be around 127mm on my camera because it's crop sensor or should i go for zoom lens like 18 to 200 or 18 to 140 ??? please help me man i want good lens for portraits which blur the background ????????????????!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    • @mohamedhusseinmemo
      @mohamedhusseinmemo 9 років тому

      Mohamed Hussein there is also the new Nikon AF-S DX NIKKOR 55-200mm f/4-5.6G ED VR II which one should i get ??!!

    • @mohamedhusseinmemo
      @mohamedhusseinmemo 9 років тому

      Mohamed Hussein also i heard that there is focus problem with 85mm/f1.8 on DX body is it true ??!!

    • @KenTheoriaApophasis
      @KenTheoriaApophasis  9 років тому

      Mohamed Hussein you dont want zooms for portraits, ONLY PRIME
      85mm is perfect on any FX or DX camera .......ive got 8 85mm lenses.
      127mm is fine because the serious portrait FX lens is the 135mm
      You have a D7200, top best for buck recommendation is to get a 85mm 1.8 D Nikkor for $300 minty used Ebay

    • @KenTheoriaApophasis
      @KenTheoriaApophasis  9 років тому

      Mohamed Hussein 55 200 is a turd, dont dare buy that pile O Poo.

    • @KenTheoriaApophasis
      @KenTheoriaApophasis  9 років тому

      Mohamed Hussein whoever said that about the 85mm having an issue on DX cameras was lying and smoking crack
      its not true at all !
      winks

  • @jamesr6497
    @jamesr6497 8 років тому

    Considering a 85mm lens for my D700. Based on your recommendations I am going to get the 85mm 1.8D for casual portraiture and some street photography, and the Carl Zeiss 85mm 1.4 planner for studio bokeh and night time street photography to be rendered black & white. I think these two should cover 85mm bases nicely. The Carl Zeiss might have to wait till next tax return, but I am sure the 85mm 1.8 D will suffice until then.

  • @laurenceneber6141
    @laurenceneber6141 10 місяців тому +1

    Go buck yourself. Great reeview...no money.

  • @cameraperv8936
    @cameraperv8936 3 роки тому

    @4:16 is my ringtone