Lesufi now showing his true colours. A fair split of the 10 MEC positions are ANC 5/ DA 4 / FF+ 1 - which is in line with simple mathematical calculation. The current ANC 8 / DA 2 is most definitely not a fair split in line with the voting results.
Mr Lesufi hasn't done anything wrong here. From where most of us are sitting its very shocking that RamSofa's ANC is willing to work with the colonisers instead of working with MK or EFF. They'll regret bringing back white minority rule and modernised apartheid in 2024.
From where most of us are sitting its very shocking that RamSofa is willing to work with the colonisers instead of working with MK or EFF. Those responsible for bringing back white minority rule and modernised apartheid in 2024 will regret it.
Just, who really is going to blame the ANC party government?,because that is the way the government of the day, which is the ANC party government ,definitely wants how its cabinet to look like, just like in the past. I know that because, people who were not allowed to vote, wouldn't had blame the government, but just dance to that music from the authorities. That was all I knew. Therefore it will be nice if the ANC government not to be blamed now, but will blame himself if things get out of control.
If the ANC were supported for the Premier & Speaker than the DA should an equal number of MMCs’ posts. When racists that, have been in power, act like victims so that they can win their comrade propaganda war when they don’t want to share power equally and logically. #journalism #capturedmedia
@@MotlokwaThwii Yes, he was supported in good faith. Telling the DA they can have 3 MMCs’, not negotiating the application of principles and disclosing their seats (7+1) is not good faith. It’s Stalinist, from corrupt comrades 🤷🏽♂️
@@pierrejoubert7195 you as well! There is brexit, there is a creeping to the far right, there is a real potential for war on European soil and you concern yourself with Zimbabwe???😢😢😢
No , I'm including you. You have agreed that others shouldn't meddle in our affairs so unless you're a hypocrite , you agree that we shouldn't meddle in other people's affairs.
The final sting of the dying wasp holding on for dear life. It's over ANC. Your constituents will drop exponentially because of this kind of behaviour. I didn't vote ANC or DA. Lesufi is arrogant, so is DA. Get your 💩 together. We want to go forward.
They will eventually find each other and both parties should remember that they have performed very dismally and below 40%. So they need each other, otherwise GP will not be stabilized. They must grow and man up to accommodate each other. ANC must not dominate other parties, they have performed dismally and looting and comradeship are over. They must work hard to put GP back on the map, as a destination hub.
As vouters we expect you to start prioritizing delivering the promises you made during your campaign. Not arguing about who's who. We have nothing to gain. We are watching you!!!
The issue is the threat of exposure to corruption. Is that brinkmanship.? Of course it is. The anc did not expect this. Their way of dealing with it is by stalling and buying time. They are no longer in charge. Shame. Karma has arrived. The party is over😅😅😅
Open a room n both leaders must weigh each other then whoever is lighter myst accept the move n lead his or oack on following the one who prevail. They need to understand that the situation is not,about oersonaluties rather serving the citizens of GP, period
I really think that the DA should actually be very grateful to be included in the GNU. During apartheid, people who were under the umbrella of apartheid they could'nt even utter words like compromise or any synonyms of such word, as the then government excepted them to just do whatever they were told to do by the the "government". To try to put it in the right way for everyone to understand it, the people who were under apartheid were not even allowed to vote, therefore, someone who understands, it means that, they didn't have a government as they were not allowed to vote, as they were just happy to do what they were told to do, and QUESS what?, nothing was supposed to be suspended or postponed as there was no need for the government to do that. Now that the apartheid is over and all the laws are made by a different government, is it difficult for the DA to do accept some of those laws. It looks like the DA party is going to take a lot of time to adjust to that. The DA party should not worry about that, as they can take all the time they need trying those adjustments, absolutely no rush for doing that. In the mean time, the ANC party governmtent and the other parties in the GNU will continue with their jobs of developing the S.A country and its citizens. The bad thing for the DA party is that they will need to have to deal with a speedy catch up as they will be already late. That is what the "UBUNTU" is all about.
What are you talking about? Do you know that the DA is now the biggest political party across SA's Metros?? In the 2024 elections, the DA received 33,8% of the votes across the 8 Metros as compared to the ANC which received 32,5% across the 8 Metros!!
It might take someone a lot of time to explain, as I am going to try to samarise what I am talking about. Try to forget about the percentage you are mentioning. Even if the ANC did not manage to achieve the required number of the voters that let them to be in government alone, there is no any other political party that achieved the number that entitled them to be in government on their own without the coalition with another political party, even the DA party, did'nt achieve the number that entitle them to form the DA party government on their own, as they still need to have a coalition to make it into government. Therefore, irrespective of those highest percentages, the ANC party government still has more powers in the government than anyone of the political parties. Therefore, the ANC party is still the boss of all the political parties and the ANC party has got the last word, e.i. whether those political parties, like it or not.
the analyst (obviously a DA voter) is biased. He is attributing the situation only to ANCs internal politics. He chooses to ignore the DAs unreasonable demands to be gatekeepers. the DA wants to turn GNU into a government of national exclusionists.
This analyst doesn’t knwo what he is talking about, there is no way you can say Msimango is a bull in a kraal, compared to Lesufi. Lesufi makes his decisions himself Msimango is remote controlled. Get your facts straight sir.
5/4/1 division according to peoples vote...the Anc is reacting asif they got much more than DA they got 34 n Da 28 percent they can hv 8 n da 2...they greedy then
Why does it sound like people are saying a government without the DA is not a good government. The ANC is allowed to form government with any one they want so does the DA.
The appointment of leaders by slate politics results in election of not so great politians within a political party such as ANC ,more often than not the cream of the crop is not at the top leadership.
Don't submit as what national government did stand your ground, that's the spirit of the true African national congress, not what we see at a national level. With the useless ANC youth League.
@@shafiyaalgiquadra1105 I am in SA for the past 371 years, I am white, conservative and believe in cultural self-determination, and I am proud on all of that. 😉
If DA is not happy they can build their own GNU like they forced in KZN, unfortunately Ramaphosa agreed to this nonsense of DA choosing who should join or not
@@shafiyaalgiquadra1105 You're correct. In the winter rainfall areas the black settlers found white settlers while in the summer rainfall areas the white settlers found black settlers. This is because the black settlers didn't know how to farm in winter rainfall areas , otherwise they would already have taken over all of the land of the Khoi San.
F E A R It is a TERRIBLE HURDLE on the Road to serving THE PEOPLE of SOUTH AFRICA ??? Who ARE these 'South Africa Life Savers' judging by these fights 😮
Not about you...the people SPOKE..UPU TALKING PROPAGANDA...NO MORE CORRUPTION....YOU NEVER SERVED THE PEOPLE
ANC is the Problem, Now l understand this GNU THING, They can't eccept that they dont have Majority. Shame ☹️☹️
Lesufi now showing his true colours. A fair split of the 10 MEC positions are ANC 5/ DA 4 / FF+ 1 - which is in line with simple mathematical calculation. The current ANC 8 / DA 2 is most definitely not a fair split in line with the voting results.
Lol spoken like a true Afrikaner. Why should they split with DA and FF+?? There's other parties you know??
The afrikaner will never change, leave Panyaza Lesufi alone
@user-ce4dm8wy2u Lesufi will also never change and apparently neither will you
Is the ANC scared of working with the DA?
Seriously terrified 😂😂😂
No. They don't have to. Are they forced to work with DA?? Lesufi has options
Yes
Not at all , the thing is DA think that it is special and they have this sense of entitlement.
@@MotlokwaThwiiyes dear they need to give Lesufi his space please
Lesufi needs to go. He's power hungry and can not be trusted. ANC is fully to blame for this situation.
He cannot be trusted by who?
Mr Lesufi hasn't done anything wrong here. From where most of us are sitting its very shocking that RamSofa's ANC is willing to work with the colonisers instead of working with MK or EFF.
They'll regret bringing back white minority rule and modernised apartheid in 2024.
From where most of us are sitting its very shocking that RamSofa is willing to work with the colonisers instead of working with MK or EFF.
Those responsible for bringing back white minority rule and modernised apartheid in 2024 will regret it.
He is here to stay
Just, who really is going to blame the ANC party government?,because that is the way the government of the day, which is the ANC party government ,definitely wants how its cabinet to look like, just like in the past. I know that because, people who were not allowed to vote, wouldn't had blame the government, but just dance to that music from the authorities. That was all I knew. Therefore it will be nice if the ANC government not to be blamed now, but will blame himself if things get out of control.
Black people in Gauteng, KwaZulu-Natal, Western Cape and Northern Cape rejected the ANC😂😂😂
You are spreading false information,habitual liar.
What a foolish level of thinking
@@FezekaPiuoseYes they Did ☹️☹️
2026 it would be more than this
Yes we did 😂
Can the ANC stop appointing idiots in high profile positions. They do not learn.
In the ANC they reward stupidity, what makes you to think that an intelligent people will elect a grade three dropout as their president😂😂😂
If they were intelligent they would not have had a grade three dropout as a president.
Idiots are those who wants positions whereas they don't have even matric, Panyaza Lesufi is well educated.
Well seems we now have idiots all lumped together in a GNU.
Woman you can't even spell I understand now...
How can we believe the ANC!
Only Ramaphosa you can believe because he is a Stellenbosch boy
Gauteng ANC,they are the spoilt brats, they don't want to play with other kids.
The problem is that racist Panyana
ANC cries bully, bully stop it! Sounds like a bunch of school children. Provide the document as proof.
Nonono, ANC lost Gauteng, DA must get 4 MEC, they keep saying voters have spoken, but this doesn't reflect that
Nobody voted for DA in Gauteng they stole votes because, they are power hungry
LISTEN TO THIS PROPAGANDA
Lesufi will do anything to disrupt the DA's relationship with the ANC as he's actually a EFF supporter.
Leave him alone
It's HARD for old ANC to bow😢😢😢😮😮😮
ANC always bullies DA & everyone else 😅
Look at GNU, ANC got 40% of the vote but it took 70% of ministerial positions 😂😂
ANC Gauteng seems to be arrogant.
ANC crying became they get the biggest budget.
You are trying to do all the things you are accusing the DA of. POEPOL.
Share the power proportionally anc wants all the power forget it
GPU shouldn't include EFF or MK.
Why?
Why not? The votes has spoken mos.
@shawnrademeyer why because ANC is your prostitute and has sold back the struggle
I hear you asking why, just because it can.
Because they REJECT the constitution!
They want their own laws.@@kokoelias9695
If the ANC were supported for the Premier & Speaker than the DA should an equal number of MMCs’ posts. When racists that, have been in power, act like victims so that they can win their comrade propaganda war when they don’t want to share power equally and logically. #journalism #capturedmedia
Nope!! Premier stood uncontested. Lesufi was supported by all parties. Not just DA.
Perhaps DA should've contested him.
@@MotlokwaThwii Yes, he was supported in good faith. Telling the DA they can have 3 MMCs’, not negotiating the application of principles and disclosing their seats (7+1) is not good faith. It’s Stalinist, from corrupt comrades 🤷🏽♂️
@@paulredelinghuys7790 EVERYONE supported Lesufi. Not just DA. Do you understand that? Lesufi is not stuck with DA.
He doesn't owe DA anything.
I don't think the anc is genuine...
Stick to the agreement.
Which agreement?? ANC Gauteng has no agreement with DA. This is not the puppet Ramaphosa
Contact Ramaphosa for your agreement, Lesufi is not working for Stellenbosch mafia
@@MotlokwaThwii foolish comment. Don't give yourself away.
@@MaryMemela-e8d we'll see.
ANC Gauteng got 35%! What do they think they got?
Does the gentleman know that Europe is burning while he is concerned not only with African affairs, but niche African affairs??😢
Zimbabwe is already burnt out!
@@pierrejoubert7195 you as well! There is brexit, there is a creeping to the far right, there is a real potential for war on European soil and you concern yourself with Zimbabwe???😢😢😢
Yes , we shouldn't bother ourselves with Palestine either.
@@ProcaviaCapensis-ts8ub is this "we" a poor attempt at French?
No , I'm including you.
You have agreed that others shouldn't meddle in our affairs so unless you're a hypocrite , you agree that we shouldn't meddle in other people's affairs.
The final sting of the dying wasp holding on for dear life. It's over ANC. Your constituents will drop exponentially because of this kind of behaviour. I didn't vote ANC or DA. Lesufi is arrogant, so is DA. Get your 💩 together. We want to go forward.
They will eventually find each other and both parties should remember that they have performed very dismally and below 40%. So they need each other, otherwise GP will not be stabilized. They must grow and man up to accommodate each other. ANC must not dominate other parties, they have performed dismally and looting and comradeship are over. They must work hard to put GP back on the map, as a destination hub.
As vouters we expect you to start prioritizing delivering the promises you made during your campaign. Not arguing about who's who. We have nothing to gain. We are watching you!!!
The issue is the threat of exposure to corruption. Is that brinkmanship.? Of course it is. The anc did not expect this. Their way of dealing with it is by stalling and buying time. They are no longer in charge. Shame. Karma has arrived. The party is over😅😅😅
Open a room n both leaders must weigh each other then whoever is lighter myst accept the move n lead his or oack on following the one who prevail. They need to understand that the situation is not,about oersonaluties rather serving the citizens of GP, period
anc in guateng corrupt from the start...that Premier must go he is arrogant
DA should have asked for Speaker positions at National and Provincial Level ❤❤❤
By giving the DA only 2 seats is a tactic - the ANC is hoping the DA will back out/down or walk away at the 11th hour.
Is there an agreement you're aware of in Gauteng?
DA second biggest and the people have spoken. Dont be bullied DA.
@@Peace5139 2nd biggest can still be opposition. Don't be too desperate for power.
@@Peace5139 Go tell that to DA. That's good advise for them
I really think that the DA should actually be very grateful to be included in the GNU. During apartheid, people who were under the umbrella of apartheid they could'nt even utter words like compromise or any synonyms of such word, as the then government excepted them to just do whatever they were told to do by the the "government". To try to put it in the right way for everyone to understand it, the people who were under apartheid were not even allowed to vote, therefore, someone who understands, it means that, they didn't have a government as they were not allowed to vote, as they were just happy to do what they were told to do, and QUESS what?, nothing was supposed to be suspended or postponed as there was no need for the government to do that. Now that the apartheid is over and all the laws are made by a different government, is it difficult for the DA to do accept some of those laws. It looks like the DA party is going to take a lot of time to adjust to that. The DA party should not worry about that, as they can take all the time they need trying those adjustments, absolutely no rush for doing that. In the mean time, the ANC party governmtent and the other parties in the GNU will continue with their jobs of developing the S.A country and its citizens. The bad thing for the DA party is that they will need to have to deal with a speedy catch up as they will be already late. That is what the "UBUNTU" is all about.
What are you talking about? Do you know that the DA is now the biggest political party across SA's Metros??
In the 2024 elections, the DA received 33,8% of the votes across the 8 Metros as compared to the ANC which received 32,5% across the 8 Metros!!
It might take someone a lot of time to explain, as I am going to try to samarise what I am talking about. Try to forget about the percentage you are mentioning. Even if the ANC did not manage to achieve the required number of the voters that let them to be in government alone, there is no any other political party that achieved the number that entitled them to be in government on their own without the coalition with another political party, even the DA party, did'nt achieve the number that entitle them to form the DA party government on their own, as they still need to have a coalition to make it into government. Therefore, irrespective of those highest percentages, the ANC party government still has more powers in the government than anyone of the political parties. Therefore, the ANC party is still the boss of all the political parties and the ANC party has got the last word, e.i. whether those political parties, like it or not.
What about Mk in KwaZulu Natal
the analyst (obviously a DA voter) is biased. He is attributing the situation only to ANCs internal politics. He chooses to ignore the DAs unreasonable demands to be gatekeepers. the DA wants to turn GNU into a government of national exclusionists.
This analyst doesn’t knwo what he is talking about, there is no way you can say Msimango is a bull in a kraal, compared to Lesufi. Lesufi makes his decisions himself Msimango is remote controlled. Get your facts straight sir.
5/4/1 division according to peoples vote...the Anc is reacting asif they got much more than DA they got 34 n Da 28 percent they can hv 8 n da 2...they greedy then
This guy is not an independent political analyst but rather a DA political analyst pushing DA propaganda agenda. Vukani bo!
Why does it sound like people are saying a government without the DA is not a good government. The ANC is allowed to form government with any one they want so does the DA.
Viva ANC babonise abelungu bafuna ukuphatha
Who is this foreigner Mlungu speaking on our affairs. PA please go check this one’s documents
Are you ok??
😂 they are afraid of the skeleton in the closet.
Da it's a problem
😂😂😂 🙌
When an analysis is anything but an analysis. Very poor and a waste of my time listening to his pointless sermon.
😂😂 let's see what happens when the boss is about Ramaposa
The appointment of leaders by slate politics results in election of not so great politians within a political party such as ANC ,more often than not the cream of the crop is not at the top leadership.
WOT A STUNNING WOMAN. Show more of her.
Makeup is stunning?
@@omphemetsechake2839 Are u jealous ? Show me ur looks.
Kuzonyowa😂😂😂😂😂
Don't submit as what national government did stand your ground, that's the spirit of the true African national congress, not what we see at a national level. With the useless ANC youth League.
The DA are a spoilt party. I trust Lesufi to decide on the side of the black majority.
Did you read the election results?
Black voters REJECTED the ANC!
FACE IT!
Let it be known, dutch settler, will dutch settler...
Let it be know central african settler
@@pierrejoubert7195 I am half Khoi😋
Do you accept my contention in that circumstance?
Thank you I am a dutch settler and proud on it.
@@nedor64 now there's a good fellow!!! There should be absolutely no shame, and I apologise if I made it sound shameful my dear chap.
@@shafiyaalgiquadra1105 I am in SA for the past 371 years, I am white, conservative and believe in cultural self-determination, and I am proud on all of that. 😉
If DA is not happy they can build their own GNU like they forced in KZN, unfortunately Ramaphosa agreed to this nonsense of DA choosing who should join or not
The problem remains that there was no secure vote in the election.
😂😂the dutch settlers are in your house now PanyaPanya, you must negotiate who gets your wife on which days and when how many meals a day you get.😂
Yup , dutch settlers and black settlers are now hanging out together.
@@ProcaviaCapensis-ts8ub 😂I suppose they are, even though one found the other here.
Yebo. That's correct!
Arrived at same time and found each other
@@shafiyaalgiquadra1105 You're correct. In the winter rainfall areas the black settlers found white settlers while in the summer rainfall areas the white settlers found black settlers.
This is because the black settlers didn't know how to farm in winter rainfall areas , otherwise they would already have taken over all of the land of the Khoi San.
F E A R
It is a TERRIBLE HURDLE on the Road to serving THE PEOPLE of SOUTH AFRICA ???
Who ARE these 'South Africa Life Savers' judging by these fights 😮