I have tried Lyric, and I haven't kept them. I had a little pain and discomfort at first, but the main reasons why I gave them back was: total disapperarance of the bass frequencies below 200/150 hz, terrible performance in noisy environments. I went several times to the audiologist who fitted me with them hoping to sort it out, but eventually I gave up. I find it puzzling that a fine professional like you are highlight only the positive aspects of the devices, without warning in details about its downside, except by generically saying that they may not fit every ear. For 4000€ per year, I expect much more from a hearing aid, besides being invisible.
@@nicolagrosseto5536 thanks for taking the time to comment. Today's video was to update audiologists and users about the new FDA clearance rather than a review. Incidentally I have also written a new review which will be going live in the next few weeks. Hopefully this will demonstrate some of the other details that you're after. Thanks again, Matthew
Been wearing these for over 8 years i absolutely love them. I would never wear hearing aid before. I take them out and put them in myself. I loved having them.
Hello, I'd be so excited to hear your opinion about if I should get them knowing that I have a high frequency moderate to severe hearing loss in one ear. Also, how do they do in noisy environments?
Nope, nope nope..The things that can go wrong far outweigh the benefit..I have removed spent Lyric's straight out of a Horror movie..the occlussion effect is very diffiult to overcome unless you have bad LF's to begin with..the possiblity of infection is high with pre-existing conditions...one patient had ridges in her canal left by the constant infections and use of the Lyric, it looked like ripples. 75% of our practices Lyric's became infected..improper use, removal by patient, bad ear hygeine, dislodged device, infections, excesive cerumen migration, "accidentally stuck a q-tip in and jammed it into my eardrum.."
Hey Cristian, thanks for taking the time to feed back. I think that it would be worth reaching out to Phonak and they'll be able to run through Lyric again. I run the biggest Lyric site outside of the US and all of the things that you've mentioned can be avoided with experience of fitting lyric: 1. The occlusion effect (the same with any hearing aid it could potentially be an issue. You have to ensure that the patient is suitable as far as their hearing goes). 2. Lyric is contraindicated with preexisting conditions, so I'm not sure why you would fit lyric in this case. If a patient has had previous surgery ENT approval should be sought after prior to a trial. 3. 75% infection rate of course shows something's not right with the way they're being fitted. Matthew
@@HearingTrackerThe occlusion effect absolutely isn't inherent to all hearing devices. Definitely can be avoided with RICs. Going with in the canal hearing aids for my first devices was one of the biggest mistakes I've made in my life.
Have you actually used the Lyric? I take 3rd party horror stories with a grain of salt because people can’t help themselves and have to eff’ around with things when told not to.
@@jlo8775 I've used CICs for a long time and the issues are inherent to all devices that firstly: completely block your ear canal and secondly: constantly stay in your ear. It's a recipe for issues.
Great video! Most reviewers talk about the discreetness of the Lyrics which is great. The question I have which no one seems to talk about is how does the Lyric compare to the best iic hearing aides on the market regarding performance?
Hey Chris, thanks for the feedback. Today's vid was just an update on the FDA's announcement. I'm recording a new detailed review this weekend so will have it up asap. Have a great day. Matthew
If they’ve just got better because the FDA have approved self fitting, how have you got patients that have been self fitting for years? Am I missing something?
The only other thing not mentioned here, is that you need to remove excess wax buildup from your ear canals before inserting the new Lyrics. The clinic would normally do this for you with a mini 'vacuum' cleaner. If you would need clean the wax out yourself then you need to be really careful and only remove any loose pieces of wax, and not any stuck to the walls of your ear canal.
You are not adding to the stigma of hearing aids. My goodness that’s dumb. The people saying that are basically saying everyone has to wear traditional hearing aids only. There are multiple benefits to different types of hearing aids apart from being invisible. Those people are basically telling people what they have to do. That’s crap.
Hi Richard. I would recommend a receiver in canal, behind the ear hearing aid for anyone with problems hearing in noise. Thanks for watching and sharing your experiences. Matthew
I am really interested in these, but I talked to three audiologist and they all spoke terrible about these. They said that they fit so tight that a lot of people get inner ear infections. They also said they need constant (professional) adjustment, and that some people can never get the right levels. And, that everything would sound like I'm underwater while using them. I can't figure out why anyone would want them in all of this is true! I don't know if I should trust them or not. Also, very hard to find providers--I'm in Los Angeles (east side) and would have to drive 40 min. to the nearest audiologist who provides. them. Curious as to others' experiences with them.
Hey Lorcashine, great questions. Did the audiologists that you spoke to happen to fit Lyric? It's pretty specialist, and Phonak have some pretty strict criteria for which practices can fit these hearing aids. As far as the fitting process goes this is what we tend to do in our practice. Fitting: 1. Assess the appropriate size lyric and the measured depth. 2. Assess the appropriate physical modifications. 3. Insert dummy lyric to ensure is comfortable. 4. Insert live lyrics, programmed to hearing loss and adjust them acoustically based on patients needs. 24 hour phone call One week Follow up: 1. Remove lyric. Assess for any issues. 2. Reinsert. 3. If any issues have been identified, reassess size or physical modifications. 4. Adjustments made to sound based on patient feedback. Two week follow up: 1. Remove lyric. Assess for any issues. 2. Insert a new lyric. 3. If any issues have been identified, reassess size or physical modifications. 4. Adjustments made to sound based on patient feedback. Follow up booked for 2 months time to replace... They may sound like you're underwater if your hearing loss is either not suitable or the fitting needs to be adjusted. I hope this helps. Matthew
@@HearingTracker Two of the three had fitted Lyric devices in the past, but said they had so many complaints from their patients, that they stopped. I'd really like to get them, despite the cost, but I sure don't want to get ear infections, have poor sound quality and have to constantly get them adjusted (I'd probably be one to have the professional changes). It's such a large investment that it seems very risky. It's also hard to find people online who've actually used them. So, of course, I got no hearing aids, but still have to figure something out I like.
I’m on week 2 with the lyric. 1st of all there’s absolutely NO occlusion effect when they are properly installed. As of now my biggest complaint is that they are completely devoid of low frequency response and richness of tonality. “Full natural listening experience” is the furthest thing from reality. Everything sounds sterile and in HD. If you’re an audiophile (such as I am) or have a deep appreciation of music, then you might want to look elsewhere.
Which of these reasons would you choose Lyric:
1. Convenience
2. Batteries
3. Cosmetics
4. It's Analogue (wahoo)
5. Tinnitus Relief
Matthew
I have tried Lyric, and I haven't kept them. I had a little pain and discomfort at first, but the main reasons why I gave them back was: total disapperarance of the bass frequencies below 200/150 hz, terrible performance in noisy environments. I went several times to the audiologist who fitted me with them hoping to sort it out, but eventually I gave up. I find it puzzling that a fine professional like you are highlight only the positive aspects of the devices, without warning in details about its downside, except by generically saying that they may not fit every ear. For 4000€ per year, I expect much more from a hearing aid, besides being invisible.
@@nicolagrosseto5536 thanks for taking the time to comment. Today's video was to update audiologists and users about the new FDA clearance rather than a review. Incidentally I have also written a new review which will be going live in the next few weeks. Hopefully this will demonstrate some of the other details that you're after. Thanks again, Matthew
Been wearing these for over 8 years i absolutely love them. I would never wear hearing aid before. I take them out and put them in myself. I loved having them.
Hello, I'd be so excited to hear your opinion about if I should get them knowing that I have a high frequency moderate to severe hearing loss in one ear. Also, how do they do in noisy environments?
Thank you for the update, I’m looking forward to the new review!
Thanks for watching! I'll get it out asap! Matthew
Nope, nope nope..The things that can go wrong far outweigh the benefit..I have removed spent Lyric's straight out of a Horror movie..the occlussion effect is very diffiult to overcome unless you have bad LF's to begin with..the possiblity of infection is high with pre-existing conditions...one patient had ridges in her canal left by the constant infections and use of the Lyric, it looked like ripples. 75% of our practices Lyric's became infected..improper use, removal by patient, bad ear hygeine, dislodged device, infections, excesive cerumen migration, "accidentally stuck a q-tip in and jammed it into my eardrum.."
Hey Cristian, thanks for taking the time to feed back. I think that it would be worth reaching out to Phonak and they'll be able to run through Lyric again. I run the biggest Lyric site outside of the US and all of the things that you've mentioned can be avoided with experience of fitting lyric:
1. The occlusion effect (the same with any hearing aid it could potentially be an issue. You have to ensure that the patient is suitable as far as their hearing goes).
2. Lyric is contraindicated with preexisting conditions, so I'm not sure why you would fit lyric in this case. If a patient has had previous surgery ENT approval should be sought after prior to a trial.
3. 75% infection rate of course shows something's not right with the way they're being fitted.
Matthew
@@HearingTrackerThe occlusion effect absolutely isn't inherent to all hearing devices. Definitely can be avoided with RICs.
Going with in the canal hearing aids for my first devices was one of the biggest mistakes I've made in my life.
Have you actually used the Lyric? I take 3rd party horror stories with a grain of salt because people can’t help themselves and have to eff’ around with things when told not to.
@@jlo8775 I've used CICs for a long time and the issues are inherent to all devices that firstly: completely block your ear canal and secondly: constantly stay in your ear. It's a recipe for issues.
Great video! Most reviewers talk about the discreetness of the Lyrics which is great. The question I have which no one seems to talk about is how does the Lyric compare to the best iic hearing aides on the market regarding performance?
Great news and thanks for the updates.
One thing you didn’t mention was the cost however….
Hey Chris, thanks for the feedback. Today's vid was just an update on the FDA's announcement. I'm recording a new detailed review this weekend so will have it up asap. Have a great day. Matthew
If they’ve just got better because the FDA have approved self fitting, how have you got patients that have been self fitting for years? Am I missing something?
@@warbseven8613 I’m UK based 🙌
The only other thing not mentioned here, is that you need to remove excess wax buildup from your ear canals before inserting the new Lyrics. The clinic would normally do this for you with a mini 'vacuum' cleaner. If you would need clean the wax out yourself then you need to be really careful and only remove any loose pieces of wax, and not any stuck to the walls of your ear canal.
Very good point pounder ! Thanks for chipping in 😊 Matthew
Will there be any alerts in advance when the battery is about to die? Don’t want to be in the situation that I become suddenly deaf.
You are not adding to the stigma of hearing aids. My goodness that’s dumb. The people saying that are basically saying everyone has to wear traditional hearing aids only. There are multiple benefits to different types of hearing aids apart from being invisible. Those people are basically telling people what they have to do. That’s crap.
Hey Emma! Yes I agree! Thanks for sharing! Matthew
I tried the Oticon IIC and Rexton IIC, neither one helped me much at all in noisy environments. Would the Lyric be better in a noisy environment?
Hi Richard. I would recommend a receiver in canal, behind the ear hearing aid for anyone with problems hearing in noise. Thanks for watching and sharing your experiences. Matthew
@@HearingTracker Thanks! Is there one that you would recommend for noisy environments?
@@richdiorio3650Lycric devices are infamously bad in noisy environments. They miss many features that modern hearing devices have.
I am really interested in these, but I talked to three audiologist and they all spoke terrible about these. They said that they fit so tight that a lot of people get inner ear infections. They also said they need constant (professional) adjustment, and that some people can never get the right levels. And, that everything would sound like I'm underwater while using them. I can't figure out why anyone would want them in all of this is true! I don't know if I should trust them or not. Also, very hard to find providers--I'm in Los Angeles (east side) and would have to drive 40 min. to the nearest audiologist who provides. them. Curious as to others' experiences with them.
Hey Lorcashine, great questions. Did the audiologists that you spoke to happen to fit Lyric? It's pretty specialist, and Phonak have some pretty strict criteria for which practices can fit these hearing aids. As far as the fitting process goes this is what we tend to do in our practice.
Fitting:
1. Assess the appropriate size lyric and the measured depth.
2. Assess the appropriate physical modifications.
3. Insert dummy lyric to ensure is comfortable.
4. Insert live lyrics, programmed to hearing loss and adjust them acoustically based on patients needs.
24 hour phone call
One week Follow up:
1. Remove lyric. Assess for any issues.
2. Reinsert.
3. If any issues have been identified, reassess size or physical modifications.
4. Adjustments made to sound based on patient feedback.
Two week follow up:
1. Remove lyric. Assess for any issues.
2. Insert a new lyric.
3. If any issues have been identified, reassess size or physical modifications.
4. Adjustments made to sound based on patient feedback.
Follow up booked for 2 months time to replace...
They may sound like you're underwater if your hearing loss is either not suitable or the fitting needs to be adjusted.
I hope this helps. Matthew
@@HearingTracker Two of the three had fitted Lyric devices in the past, but said they had so many complaints from their patients, that they stopped. I'd really like to get them, despite the cost, but I sure don't want to get ear infections, have poor sound quality and have to constantly get them adjusted (I'd probably be one to have the professional changes). It's such a large investment that it seems very risky. It's also hard to find people online who've actually used them. So, of course, I got no hearing aids, but still have to figure something out I like.
I’m on week 2 with the lyric. 1st of all there’s absolutely NO occlusion effect when they are properly installed. As of now my biggest complaint is that they are completely devoid of low frequency response and richness of tonality. “Full natural listening experience” is the furthest thing from reality. Everything sounds sterile and in HD. If you’re an audiophile (such as I am) or have a deep appreciation of music, then you might want to look elsewhere.
Hey JLo, sounds like the low tone cut needs adjusting. Your aud will be able to sort it. Matthew
@@HearingTracker Thanks so much for taking the time to respond! I’m Subscribed! 😎👍
Is self insertion relevant in Australia? ❤ I have had them for two years. Have to drive 2 hours to get to the nearest clinician
Is it available in India
afew years ago i have hearing loss i do not waer any hearing aid