I know some Mennonites who visit Belize a lot. Many have moved there. They and their Amish cousins will eventually turn Belize into a formidable country. None of these people are afraid of hard work.
That's a good thing, somebody among the 300,000 odd citizens is going to have to pay off their billion dollar foreign debt. It's obvious the rest of the population isn't going to.
Some of the members of the Mennonite community in Lott, Texas lived in Belize, but decided to move back. They said it was more dangerous there and they felt safer in the U.S.
Hi All, I spent a year in Belize on a project --The people shown are Mennonites they are a big portion of the population there. --There are two main "Genotypes" for lack of a better word-- One lives in a fairly modern, but self sufficient farming community --they have cars, tractors, nice houses ---and grow most of the food in Belize , and then there are the traditional groups, like the ones in the vid and they live way in the back woods and only use animal, water, and human power--- they make some incredible machines like we saw here and all driven by muscle power and lots of belts, wheels and pulleys.
There's a more recent video by a Belizian TV crew and it shows a transmission of some kind and two or three prop-shafts joining to the cog or wheel for the broad bandsaw blade.
With the thin kerf of a bandsaw less wood is cut/removed thus less HP is required when compared to the wide kerf of a large circular saw blade. Why even use horses, why not use water power? A stainless steel welded water wheel could easily power a band saw mill and the wheel would last forever only have to lubricate the bearings and occasionally replace them.
Very sustainable. At the rate they are harvesting and processing the rainforest will grow back and the manure can fertilize it. What's not to like? ;-)
@@meandnature6452 they're just lean, not skinny. I should know, I worked in the vet clinic and we had ourselves some neglected horses rescued that would literally just skin and bones.
Theresa Knapp The folks in the video are old order mennonites. Many Amish groups use power tools. They use air compressors to power them. As for horses I know many people who won't sell a horse to the Amish or Old Order Mennonites. Many Amish think of horses like some people think of cars (use it up and buy another one). The Amish I dealt with in Maryland had solar powered electric lights on their buggys and wagons. The mix of technologies from one Amish group to the next is amazing. amishamerica.com/
+Paul Best That is SO true! Thank you for providing the amishamerica URL. That's one place to get a basic understanding of our Amish. But that's different subject, really. Like you said, these are Old Order Mennonites.
It would seam more practical to me that you have a steam power plant running off all that wood waste to power a steam engine to run your sawmill as well as a yarder cable to bring the logs to the saw. All in all you are running a more simple method that still works, great job.
Coming from a guy who has worked around steam engines, it's not as practical as it sounds. It takes a LOT of wood to keep water hot enough to produce the necessary power. The most effective method of non-electric saw-milling (aside from gas powered) is still a waterwheel.
I'm surprised that they don't use cattle for the sawmill instead, they're stronger, less expensive to buy and care for and less likely to get bored with the monotony of this task.
I don't think they are that good for wheeling like the horses are. Plus you can train the horses to up and down-tempo for speed changes of the blade; with oxen that's usually very difficult as it's start or stop and no middle-ground usually.
I just read a very good comment about the Amish (see the link in the clip discription). This short clip gives you a realistic insight of hard young Amish worker.
These guys are not Amish but members of the Old Order Mennonite Group "Noah Hoover Mennonites", who in their outward appearance almost totally resemble the Amish.
well, if they're looking for a place to move to, that has a nice climate, is pretty safe, with abundant nature and at places cheap land, then try Croatia. I'm serious, i'm from there. our countryside in many parts of the country is dying off, only old people, everyone else is moving to cities. google "Lika Hrvatska" or "Zumberak" or "Slavonija" to see one such place. i remember land prices in some parts are ridiculously cheap. however, one has to buy small homesteads, nothing big, as Croatia had a history of small, fragmented farms. anyways, this was off topic, but inspired by comments below.
Liked it & added it to my favorites list Once those kids learn how to run the mill as well as they handle their animals, they'll have a good operation going, if no-one gets hurt in the mean time. Letting the log jam up on the lower band wheel at the 1:22 mark is not very good, nor is throwing the Cant Hook over the log at the 2:21 - 2:22 mark. Not to mention not using the dogs Other than that, it looks like they did a good job for using a home made mill with some actual sawmill parts in it
A newer video did say there's been some finger injuries unfortunately, so it looks like your words were prophetic. There's an older guy now sorta in charge of the mill operation and running etc so hopefully those young kids didn't lose any fingers.
Bestmountjoy Belize strongest foreign exchange earners are sugar, citrus, banana and fisheries and of course off sure Banking. None of which involves the Mennonites. They are good people and an asset to the country but there are a lot else going on.
When I think of 'industry' Mervin, I think of something net productive, like you said ~ sugar, citrus, banana and fisheries. Like creating with steel, wood, even electronics, horticulture, farming, just hacking in the garage to a UA-cam with your tools. Is there much of that? I'm honestly not aware...I live a very long way in Nova Scotia...hah! @^b! ... where I would never think of banking as net productive...only to those who own them...! Nor politics or religion either... Still though, thanks for getting back at me. I appreciate the exchange. I hope to find out firsthand someday soon. lol... I have good friends there...and perhaps an abidingly happy home in the future. :^>!
I too would have like to have seen more of the power drive train. These days I'm not likely to travel to an adjoining State, much less travel outside the USA.
Tell those people that it's amazing how much more work they can get out of a horse if they FED them. And that brat of a boy, swinging his little whip over horses that are NOT balking, but working. From their clothing, I'm assuming this is a religious sect of some sort, perhaps Mennonite or similar. If so, his father needs to press Proverbs 12:10 into him, "A righteous man regardeth the life of his beast: but the tender mercies of the wicked are cruel."
yep just amish folk in a belizen jungle running an 8 horse power saw mill.. guess there is more end torque with all the gear belted pulleys to operate tram and cutting saw..
+Randy Maylowski Horses are not "cute." Horses have good temperament (or not-so-good), good conformation (or not-so-good -- possibilities for all kinds of faults there), good musculature (or -- well, you get the idea), great coloring or markings and have nice lines. Horses can be regal or handsome or breathtaking or dainty (in the case of fillies and mares), or any number of things, but you don't call a horse "cute." Newborn foals may be cute; would you call a team of Budweiser Clydesdales "cute"? How insulting!
Ah, yes, there's that, too. I once owned about a dozen ponies. Most of them were cute, some more so than others. One was ungainly, but I loved him dearly.
Ramon Pacheco They use horses instead of engines and electric motors because horses don't need expensive spare parts and fuel that must be purchased from outsiders. Being different from the outside world is part of their religon.
+Ramon Pacheco Their "Ordnung" (set of rules) does not allow the use of any engine, because especially Old Order Mennonites and Russian Mennonites, but also Old Order Amish made the experience that there is a strong drift toward the use of more and more technology, that over a period of several (2, 3, 4, 5) generations leads to assimilation and the loss of their belief. They fear the use of engines leads to the use of tractors and then to cars. There are no Old Order Mennonite groups, who use cars, that still have retained the German language. As soon as they speak the languages of the people around them, the pressure to assimilate becomes much stronger. The more assimilated Mennonite and Amish groups are, the less children they have and fewer young people will join their church. Thus over a long period leads to the disintegration of their communities. The idea behind all that is: more technology --> assimilation --> loss of faith --> hell, therefore no modern technology, --> no hell! This idea is based on experience. They sacrifice the conveniences of the modern world for their salvation of and the salvation of their children.
Amish in Belize? I didn't know that. Or are they Mennonites? Old order Mennonites? I heard the PA Dutch being spoken by some of the adults. Why on earth are they down in Central America. Interesting video nonetheless.
+wilhard45 Yes, Mennonites. And possibly Old Order, or similar. Many things have further dispersed Mennonites that came first to North America. Civil war, unjust laws (private schooling for one,) and a few other things. Anyway I was glad to find this video.
+Michael Dougfir These guys belong to the Noah Hoover Old Order Mennonites. They came to Belize in the late 1960s and were joined by quite a few Russland-Mennonites , who came to Belize in 1958. Their villages are Upper Barton Creek, Springfield and Pine Hill. They are quite open to outsiders.
+Watch Ryder These are definitely no Amish but Noah Hoovers from Springfield, Belize. The dress of the Noah Hoovers is very much like the dress of the Amish. There are different Old Order Mennonite groups with different dress. Some people think all Old Order Mennonites look like the Groffdale Conference Mennonites, also called Wenger Mennonites, but that is a simplistic view. The Orthodox Mennonites are another group of Old Order Mennonites, that dress like the Amish. The men of the Noah Hoovers and the Orthodox Mennonites also wear mustaches, whereas the Amish do not, except of the "Michigan Churches" of the Amish, that are influenced by the Noah Hoovers and Orthodox Mennonites. The guys in this video also have mustaches, if you look closely. By the way, there are no Old Order Amish outside North America.
Everyone needs something to do. Even horses and cattle and dogs. They aren't straining while doing their jobs. No one in this video is doing back breaking work. But it is boring, slow, calorie burning work.
Wow ... Can u just think about in the really old days when this was common place .... My how we have advanced over the years ... We all need someone else to do this for us now ...
Oh brother... Those horses are healthy. I don't see any chipped hooves or mange. For living in the tropics, those horses look very well cared for. It's OK to see some rib.
they are not under fed you are meant to see a horses ribs (unless its a fashion horse they are over fed for a better look but this decreases there life span )
Donald B, you know nothing about the Noah Hoover Mennonites and related Christian groups! Using certain technologies - or not using them - has nothing to do with blasphemy in the view of these Mennonites! Groups like the Noah Hoovers decide which technologies are good for their church and which are not. They look at other churches and observe which changes strengthen their community and which changes weaken them. There is much more rational thinking behind their decisions what technologies they use than behind you ignorant comment. Read about Old Order groups and you will learn how erroneous your assumption is.
Where's OSHA?!! CPS?!! PETA?!! NLRB?!! EPA?!! NAACP?!! This is OUTRAGEOUS!!! NO hemets! NO hearing protection! NO safety glasses! NO posted labour laws! NO shop steward, and NO coffee!! Outrageous!
+Stephen Franks Apparently some of you have trouble with either geography or reading comprehension. This is in Belize. Belize is in Central America -- you know, between North America and South America?
Let these Amish guys see television for a couple of days and no one will show up for work The next day. They will all be on their way to modern civilization.
I know some Mennonites who visit Belize a lot. Many have moved there. They and their Amish cousins will eventually turn Belize into a formidable country. None of these people are afraid of hard work.
Pretty cool, Makes me want to move theremyself. I have been to Belize, I liked it.
That's a good thing, somebody among the 300,000 odd citizens is going to have to pay off their billion dollar foreign debt. It's obvious the rest of the population isn't going to.
Some of the members of the Mennonite community in Lott, Texas lived in Belize, but decided to move back. They said it was more dangerous there and they felt safer in the U.S.
Tireless industrial hearts.
Hi All,
I spent a year in Belize on a project --The people shown are Mennonites they are a big portion of the population there. --There are two main "Genotypes" for lack of a better word-- One lives in a fairly modern, but self sufficient farming community --they have cars, tractors, nice houses ---and grow most of the food in Belize , and then there are the traditional groups, like the ones in the vid and they live way in the back woods and only use animal, water, and human power--- they make some incredible machines like we saw here and all driven by muscle power and lots of belts, wheels and pulleys.
Thanks for sharing this,and God bless you all and the horse's
How does the saw move so fast while the horses walks so slow?
A step-up pulley method. The horses turning that big wheel around once turns the smaller saw belt wheel multiple times.
Big wheel moving smaller wheels , this preindustrial technology been around for a very long time
8 Horse powered saw milling !! Wow and not so loud as the mill I worked when I was 22. It was using an old diesel Cummins engine[with no muffler].
hi karls science class, this is anton gridley, and I love science so much!
Amazing to see that size operation run on a 8 horse motor.Thanks for the video
fascinating video. i really want to see how th drive is converted from horses to the blade.
Thats the clever bit .
There's a more recent video by a Belizian TV crew and it shows a transmission of some kind and two or three prop-shafts joining to the cog or wheel for the broad bandsaw blade.
Now you understand when an engineer says "its all about the torque" not just horsepower number
hahaha
Just love to see the working horses. A window into a quieter and more natural world.
Interesting how 8 horses through a system of pulleys and belts can make enough power to run a sawmill.
With the thin kerf of a bandsaw less wood is cut/removed thus less HP is required when compared to the wide kerf of a large circular saw blade. Why even use horses, why not use water power? A stainless steel welded water wheel could easily power a band saw mill and the wheel would last forever only have to lubricate the bearings and occasionally replace them.
@@chrisdaniel1339 That area isn't conducive to water power AFAIK.
Si era y es en algunas zonas apartadas la fuerza motriz disponible. Lo raro que para la noria no usaran bueyes que son mas constantes que los caballos
Very sustainable. At the rate they are harvesting and processing the rainforest will grow back and the manure can fertilize it. What's not to like? ;-)
they dont feed the horses enough
@@meandnature6452 you're making assumptions off of a 5 minute video
@@meandnature6452 what makes you say that?
@@austinmajor3288 they look pretty skinny
@@meandnature6452 they're just lean, not skinny. I should know, I worked in the vet clinic and we had ourselves some neglected horses rescued that would literally just skin and bones.
Wonderful, like a glance back to another time. Everyone fit and healthy,and work done with little chatter.
which may be in the surviors future?
Amish do everything by hand, they do not use electricity. It's amazing how well Amish horses are. I'd LOVE to buy myself an Amish horse!!
Theresa Knapp The folks in the video are old order mennonites. Many Amish groups use power tools. They use air compressors to power them. As for horses I know many people who won't sell a horse to the Amish or Old Order Mennonites. Many Amish think of horses like some people think of cars (use it up and buy another one). The Amish I dealt with in Maryland had solar powered electric lights on their buggys and wagons. The mix of technologies from one Amish group to the next is amazing. amishamerica.com/
+Paul Best That is SO true! Thank you for providing the amishamerica URL. That's one place to get a basic understanding of our Amish. But that's different subject, really. Like you said, these are Old Order Mennonites.
How do I go out there and train with those guys?
It would seam more practical to me that you have a steam power plant running off all that wood waste to power a steam engine to run your sawmill as well as a yarder cable to bring the logs to the saw. All in all you are running a more simple method that still works, great job.
Coming from a guy who has worked around steam engines, it's not as practical as it sounds. It takes a LOT of wood to keep water hot enough to produce the necessary power. The most effective method of non-electric saw-milling (aside from gas powered) is still a waterwheel.
There was a mill in Oregon that until recently did just that, unfortunately they switched to grid power.
I'm surprised that they don't use cattle for the sawmill instead, they're stronger, less expensive to buy and care for and less likely to get bored with the monotony of this task.
and you can sell the to mcdonalds when they get too old
@@thechaosgardenerI thought McDonald was the farmer?
I don't think they are that good for wheeling like the horses are. Plus you can train the horses to up and down-tempo for speed changes of the blade; with oxen that's usually very difficult as it's start or stop and no middle-ground usually.
Hehehe looks like they are running on 8 horse power! :D I think a small gasoline engine might require less maintenance than those horses!
Not if you're Amish, love usury-free living & don't have your own refinery to be all wartarded over...lol!
Bestmountjoy
+Bestmountjoy true, but you need to find the animals that are going to do the work, self sufficiency only goes so far, you need outside help somehow.
Your gas powered engine cannot fertilize the field, and when the engine dies, you cannot eat it.
+SirLobsterman With the Amish they achieve it, animals are multi-use.
I love how at the end of this video... The Ox (?) are pulling the loaded trailor, and the horse is in the back making the Ox pull him along too!
Smart horse, his work for the day is already done. The head honcho probably saddles him for a ride home afterwards.
Ok that was impressive, got some real nice cuts of wood at the end.
Which country is this very interesting
I just read a very good comment about the Amish (see the link in the clip discription). This short clip gives you a realistic insight of hard young Amish worker.
These guys are not Amish but members of the Old Order Mennonite Group "Noah Hoover Mennonites", who in their outward appearance almost totally resemble the Amish.
I spent 12 months in Belize,,,i came across the Mennonites in the Bush,,we would trade for Bread and Fresh orange juice,,,,save my life,,,,,,Trapper
Any technical details?
How long before those horses get tired and have to be changed out?
A Horse can comfortably walk 8 hours without stopping. Since there is an added weight being pulled, I assume they can do it between 4-6 hours.
well, if they're looking for a place to move to, that has a nice climate, is pretty safe, with abundant nature and at places cheap land, then try Croatia. I'm serious, i'm from there. our countryside in many parts of the country is dying off, only old people, everyone else is moving to cities. google "Lika Hrvatska" or "Zumberak" or "Slavonija" to see one such place.
i remember land prices in some parts are ridiculously cheap. however, one has to buy small homesteads, nothing big, as Croatia had a history of small, fragmented farms. anyways, this was off topic, but inspired by comments below.
I visited Springfield, two days ago! Very quaint and interesting! I saw Jonathan in here. He's a very nice guy!
The horses are like it's better than working in the sun.
The Amish are spreading to Belize now?! Fascinating. Thanks.
These guys belong to the "Noah Hoover Mennonites" who migrated to Belize in the late 1950s.
do you deal with any honduran rosewood burl?
I saw them using the top dogs several times. I didn't see a tire. I worked sawmills in SW Mo around Thomasville and Peace Valley Mo.
nice 8HP saw you got there haha :D
THUNDERBOLT one horse has 2 horse powers.
Wonderful to see ! thank you for the video! Keep up the good work it must be fulfilling !
go to Springfield community in Belize for details.
Just the coolest thing ever.
Peace
incredible, do you guyz look for volunteers (have a profile) on Helpx?? (just an idea really; thank you for the nice pictures)!!
I absolutely respect anyone who lets the horse continue proving to all, HE IS NOT,& NEVER WILL BE REPLACEABL
Gas, $4.00 a gallon; a bag of oats, 0.50. lol
$.50 buys a really small bag of oats
$9.00 a bag
Amish...they grow their own feed.
@@KingDeramo Not in Belize.
I am surprised that a river or stream is not dammed up and a large, wide steel water wheel is not used to power the sawmill
Ya gotta love the old ways....I would like to see the drive mechanism better...
Liked it & added it to my favorites list
Once those kids learn how to run the mill as well as they handle their animals, they'll have a good operation going, if no-one gets hurt in the mean time.
Letting the log jam up on the lower band wheel at the 1:22 mark is not very good, nor is throwing the Cant Hook over the log at the 2:21 - 2:22 mark. Not to mention not using the dogs
Other than that, it looks like they did a good job for using a home made mill with some actual sawmill parts in it
A newer video did say there's been some finger injuries unfortunately, so it looks like your words were prophetic. There's an older guy now sorta in charge of the mill operation and running etc so hopefully those young kids didn't lose any fingers.
Only 8 hp
+SPAD58 Yep, what I was thinking, but 8 HP got good cuts on that wood.
That was great I felt like a time traveler
Where was that filmed at?
Apparently, Springfield Belize.
The Amish are the heaviest industry there for almost a century now.
Bestmountjoy Belize strongest foreign exchange earners are sugar, citrus, banana and fisheries and of course off sure Banking. None of which involves the Mennonites. They are good people and an asset to the country but there are a lot else going on.
Mervin R That's off shore banking
Mervin R The Mennonites has been in Belize for only about fifty years
When I think of 'industry' Mervin, I think of something net productive, like you said ~ sugar, citrus, banana and fisheries.
Like creating with steel, wood, even electronics, horticulture, farming, just hacking in the garage to a UA-cam with your tools.
Is there much of that? I'm honestly not aware...I live a very long way in Nova Scotia...hah!
@^b!
... where I would never think of banking as net productive...only to those who own them...! Nor politics or religion either...
Still though, thanks for getting back at me. I appreciate the exchange. I hope to find out firsthand someday soon. lol...
I have good friends there...and perhaps an abidingly happy home in the future.
:^>!
All I can say is wow. Just wow.
The most beautifull work of the great American historical history of the Amish forever have peace be with yous
i really enjoy the animals are treated well and in good health
@JOVITA MARTINEZ nope ! it was just a , I hope comment ..
Splendid indeed !
I too would have like to have seen more of the power drive train. These days I'm not likely to travel to an adjoining State, much less travel outside the USA.
Tell those people that it's amazing how much more work they can get out of a horse if they FED them. And that brat of a boy, swinging his little whip over horses that are NOT balking, but working. From their clothing, I'm assuming this is a religious sect of some sort, perhaps Mennonite or similar. If so, his father needs to press Proverbs 12:10 into him, "A righteous man regardeth the life of his beast: but the tender mercies of the wicked are cruel."
how on earth can they use rubber tyres !? It's sooo modern.
+M Bat On the bandsaw? Could be leather strips laminated together with hide glue or pitch tar.
1800s modern?
Hey are those the Amish guys from that show
yep just amish folk in a belizen jungle running an 8 horse power saw mill.. guess there is more end torque with all the gear belted pulleys to operate tram and cutting saw..
nice looking horses :) they look cute :)
+Randy Maylowski Horses are not "cute." Horses have good temperament (or not-so-good), good conformation (or not-so-good -- possibilities for all kinds of faults there), good musculature (or -- well, you get the idea), great coloring or markings and have nice lines. Horses can be regal or handsome or breathtaking or dainty (in the case of fillies and mares), or any number of things, but you don't call a horse "cute." Newborn foals may be cute; would you call a team of Budweiser Clydesdales "cute"? How insulting!
Kathleen McKenzie yeah you are right about that one, sorry! But horses are good animals too eat,...lol so inerways sorry about that,
Ah, yes, there's that, too. I once owned about a dozen ponies. Most of them were cute, some more so than others. One was ungainly, but I loved him dearly.
love to see that it is still some folks left with some sens
nice! but why?
Ramon Pacheco They use horses instead of engines and electric motors because horses don't need expensive spare parts and fuel that must be purchased from outsiders. Being different from the outside world is part of their religon.
+Ramon Pacheco
Their "Ordnung" (set of rules) does not allow the use of any engine, because especially Old Order Mennonites and Russian Mennonites, but also Old Order Amish made the experience that there is a strong drift toward
the use of more and more technology, that over a period of several (2, 3, 4, 5) generations leads to assimilation and the loss of their belief.
They fear the use of engines leads to the use of tractors and then to cars. There are no Old Order Mennonite groups, who use cars, that still have retained the German language. As soon as they speak the languages of the people around them, the pressure to assimilate becomes much stronger.
The more assimilated Mennonite and Amish groups are, the less children they have and fewer young people will join their church. Thus over a long period leads to the disintegration of their communities.
The idea behind all that is: more technology --> assimilation --> loss of faith --> hell, therefore no modern technology, --> no hell!
This idea is based on experience. They sacrifice the conveniences of the modern world for their salvation of and the salvation of their children.
First time to see something like this, learn something new every day/
16 HP and 3200# of torque.
Holy crap only 8 horse power too amazing
I would hate to be those animals. Lol
1:40 is that a pneumatic tire i see?...thought it was all original :(
Amish in Belize? I didn't know that. Or are they Mennonites? Old order Mennonites? I heard the PA Dutch being spoken by some of the adults. Why on earth are they down in Central America. Interesting video nonetheless.
+wilhard45 Yes, Mennonites. And possibly Old Order, or similar. Many things have further dispersed Mennonites that came first to North America. Civil war, unjust laws (private schooling for one,) and a few other things. Anyway I was glad to find this video.
+Michael Dougfir These guys belong to the Noah Hoover Old Order Mennonites. They came to Belize in the late 1960s and were joined by quite a few Russland-Mennonites , who came to Belize in 1958. Their villages are Upper Barton Creek, Springfield and Pine Hill. They are quite open to outsiders.
+wilhard45 White man gets around...
I think these are Amish though, aren't Mennonite's more different with the clothing?
+Watch Ryder
These are definitely no Amish but Noah Hoovers from Springfield, Belize. The dress of the Noah Hoovers is very much like the dress of the Amish. There are different Old Order Mennonite groups with different dress. Some people think all Old Order Mennonites look like the Groffdale Conference Mennonites, also called Wenger Mennonites, but that is a simplistic view.
The Orthodox Mennonites are another group of Old Order Mennonites, that dress like the Amish. The men of the Noah Hoovers and the Orthodox Mennonites also wear mustaches, whereas the Amish do not, except of the "Michigan Churches" of the Amish, that are influenced by the Noah Hoovers and Orthodox Mennonites. The guys in this video also have mustaches, if you look closely.
By the way, there are no Old Order Amish outside North America.
Amish in all but name, which is good enough for me. :)
SUPER ale chtělo by to elektrický proud. :-) Taky jsem kdysi dřel jak kůň. :-)
Everyone needs something to do. Even horses and cattle and dogs. They aren't straining while doing their jobs. No one in this video is doing back breaking work. But it is boring, slow, calorie burning work.
Wow ... Can u just think about in the really old days when this was common place .... My how we have advanced over the years ... We all need someone else to do this for us now ...
those are beautiful oxen.
Those are horses
Not bad for 8 horsepower.
Excellent!
wow and I thought that a band saw mill was a moddern invention, no aliens involved!!!!!
Technology stops the abuse and enslavement of animals. Peace
No safety glasses?
I thought they were in the Armish Mafia?
replace the horses with inmates. you can still whip them to, i recon so.
yo hahaha
They have feelings you know
@@lukepanknin7732 So did their victims.
@@ROGER2095 wdym by victims?
The ox look miserable but the horses like work
Well, that is the hard way of doing that one.
Pretty badass
We should take a lesson from these people, while this is an industry it is very sustainable. Nothing wrong with hard work, makes the sleep good.
there must be a way make work even more difficult: try cats to power your machines?
this was a nice video BUT they need to feed the horses more you should NOT be able to see their ribbers
Oh brother... Those horses are healthy. I don't see any chipped hooves or mange. For living in the tropics, those horses look very well cared for. It's OK to see some rib.
Scott Roy They don't look bad but I'd call that underfed. Not sure what you're so offended about.
they are not under fed you are meant to see a horses ribs (unless its a fashion horse they are over fed for a better look but this decreases there life span )
if you cant say something smart and spew shit that isn't true your not gonna attract nice people ya bitch
is it legal?
the real 8 horse power motor !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
All that technology in action but somehow that's the limit. Can't have anything more than that. Religious people are really screwed up.
That's equal to around 150 horse power.
Oh No, They use Rubber Tired wagons? That's Blasphemy!!
Donald B, you know nothing about the Noah Hoover Mennonites and related Christian groups!
Using certain technologies - or not using them - has nothing to do with blasphemy in the view of these Mennonites! Groups like the Noah Hoovers decide which technologies are good for their church and which are not. They look
at other churches and observe which changes strengthen their community and which changes weaken them.
There is much more rational thinking behind their decisions what technologies they use than behind you ignorant comment. Read about Old Order groups and you will learn how erroneous your assumption is.
These horses could use more feed!!!
Just shows what you can do without oil and gas.
Damn right. I would use wood gas and an engine though...
Ari Lehtiniemi I used to live down there. Spare part were not cheap and hard to come by. Draft animals are the way to go.
Amish and palm trees...where is this at???
This is in Belize, Springfield
They are not Amish, the are Noah Hoover Old Oder Mennonites.
i know how those horses feel.....round and around
lol whats your name... Pete Burns?
In usury-money-chasing cultures, it's we upright walking spinal columns who are yoked.
Lol...
8 horsepower sawmill
פריסת אדני רכבת במסור 32 אינצ' - cutting a railway tie with 32 inch saw mill
Where's OSHA?!! CPS?!! PETA?!! NLRB?!! EPA?!! NAACP?!! This is OUTRAGEOUS!!! NO hemets! NO hearing protection! NO safety glasses! NO posted labour laws! NO shop steward, and NO coffee!! Outrageous!
+Stephen Franks Are you serious? I really hope you aren't...
+Stephen Franks No coffee, the most shameful of things!
Andre Gross
Agree, the only thing wrong there, no coffee.
+Stephen Franks Apparently some of you have trouble with either geography or reading comprehension. This is in Belize. Belize is in Central America -- you know, between North America and South America?
Oh! Yes, I often do that when I'm online. I take everything so seriously. Well, at least it gives others a laugh.
they are Amish, where or what else
They belong to the Old Order Mennonite "Noah Hoover" group.
BRAVO !!!!!!
they dont feed the horses enough food
Would be easier with 7 cats
no way, you need at least 12
Let these Amish guys see television for a couple of days and no one will show up for work The next day. They will all be on their way to modern civilization.
They know; ... that and much more.
They prefer this over being petrol-hungry wartards...
the horses needs more food
I wonder is the horses make minimum wage
Deceitful title... it looks like the only horse powered thing here is pushing the tree trunk against the motor powered saw.
It's legit, there's a more recent video showing the inner workings and it's all horse power, pulleys, shafts and belts.
The original steam punks
I didn't see one overweight guy. Not one.