Plot Structures -The Hero's Journey & Star Wars
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- Опубліковано 25 тра 2020
- This clip is a short excerpt from the third lecture of my creative writing class at BYU. You can watch the whole lecture here: • Lecture #3: Plot Part ...
If you're wanting to watch Dan Wells' lecture series, you can watch the first one here: • Dan Wells on Story Str...
I'm about 50k words into my first novel and your mono myth description was so close to my manuscript it gave me chills.
Anakin/Vader's story from the beginning of the prequels to the end of Return of the Jedi is kind of a hero's journey.
From a certain point of view...
Imagine going to uni or college to hear this legend give you a talk and have massive loans, when you can just watch him on UA-cam and learn the same shit.
Aren't these seminars free?
@@FluffyJackie I wouldn't know I don't live in a place where there are seminars like this
@@SLokutaR Same
Thank you, I am from Puerto Rico and this is a treasure for me and for my future books. You are the first writer to intelligently convince me of his methods. and for me that is to have a paradise in the world
Loved hearing him talk about this! Even after the countless UA-cam videos I have watched on the hero's journey, he has lots of interesting things to say!
I agree. I've been introduced to the hero's journey when I was playing improv comedy. Even though I had to learn all the necessary steps a hero must face Brandon makes this topic so much more exciting than I would have ever thought.
When Brandon was describing the structure it reminded me a lot of Bilbo. Frodo for that matter, too.
7:56 man I'm 31 yo and still scared shitless of living on my own even as I'm doing it
Joseph Campbell, not James.
It's 8 points, but I checked it out -- really cool! Also, it's Joseph Campbell, not James. Keep up the great work!
If anyone is interested in The Hero's Journey, it's JOSEPH Campbell, not James!
I'm reading that book at the moment. It's really interesting
Thank you!
Sandman Doin His Star Wars Thang. Yay!!!
Whenever the Hero's Journey mentions the Elixir I can't help but imagine a wicked can of mt dew
1:03 Joseph Campbell 😉
Brandon lost a tiny bit of respect from me for getting this wrong.
Yes, not James! Brandon S. gets it right on the Writing Excuses podcast, though.
This begs the question that if Lucas should've avoided using the virgin birth as a plot element in Episode 1 (although personally I have no issue with it and don't believe he did it just because it's how these things are usually done), how should he have set up things instead, because it does end up adding an extra layer of meaning to the entire Saga and Vader's redemptive act in Return of the Jedi. Against all odds Anakin achieved balance in the most unexpected of ways.
Yeah, some of the ideas in the prequels (like this one) are actually really good, I think. Too bad it all ended up the way it did (meaning the prequels and Star Wars in general, tbh...😐).
@@percival_xii9166 I'm a massive fan of the prequels personally. Never really understood the hatred for them.
Praise the sun
Something refreshing about hearing an auther misremember Joseph Campbell's name, like: hell yeah, let that relevance wane
Reminds me a lot of Eragon by Paolini
Well Paolini took inspiration from Star Wars when he wrote Eragon so that's prob for why
@@Drums_of_Liberation exactly
So in conclusion, if you want to write a good hero's journey don't invent a random virgin child.
Harry Potter
FIRST
James Campbell, who described a story structure which is common because it is vague and claimed it to apply to all stories? Really now? I mean, I've tried to read his book and didn't finish it because it is really pretentiously written and steeped in difficult psychoanalysis, so I don't blame people for not reading it. Except if they lecture about the hero's journey. Then they should probably do their preparation, famous author or no. The guy's name is Joseph Campbell, he did not say that all stories are like this, and in fact explicitly denies that, saying that most modern novels do not tell versions of this story, and the reason it is common, he claims, is because it's central character arc (as interpreted through lots of psychoanalysis and speculative developmental psychology) is about the passage to adulthood. If you don't want to do your homework, it is better not to talk about Campbell and stick to star wars.
Oof
Evilanious Link to where in the video he says that all stories/all modern novels are like this? I'll save you the time, he didn't...
@@0ceanaut I didn't say he did. I said he claimed Campbell said that. Link at 1:25 .
If you want to lecture someone on something then make sure you understand the difference between "it's" and "its" ... "its central character arc" not "it's".
@@Evilanious My mistake, considering how scathing you were your actual criticism seems quite tame.
'He's like; all stories are like this, no they don't, but alot of them do...' Ok, when I heard that sentence I interpreted it as correcting the generalised version he initially gave for Campbells view, but I suppose you could be right in that he was correcting Campbell himself thinking he literally meant all stories.