Battle Of The Brush: Walter Sickert Vs John Singer Sargent With Waldemar Januszczak

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  • Опубліковано 25 сер 2024
  • Waldemar Januszczak presents this battle between two of the early 20th Century's best-loved painter, Walter Sickert & John Singer Sargent. The film focuses on some of the most beautiful and alarming paintings ever made in this country; evokes the long-lost atmosphere of Edwardian London; and above all, shows that these two immigrants were waging a war over nothing less than the future soul of British art.
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КОМЕНТАРІ • 518

  • @kindnessfirst9670
    @kindnessfirst9670 2 роки тому +124

    I am an artist myself. Sargent was the greatest portraitist who ever lived. His work has to be seen in person. His skills bordered on magic.

    • @brigidine37
      @brigidine37 Рік тому +5

      I agree 100%

    • @ladycharlotte8693
      @ladycharlotte8693 Рік тому +2

      I agree, in person just amazing

    • @markhousel2712
      @markhousel2712 Рік тому +2

      Yes sir

    • @markhousel2712
      @markhousel2712 Рік тому +3

      @@667hodge everything in art is arguable. What do you have to say to refute that statement?

    • @friedricengravy6646
      @friedricengravy6646 Рік тому +17

      I think comparing these 2 artists is like comparing apples to tomatoes. Nirvana to B.B. King. They both present something very different. One is showing the dark reality of average life in that time & the other is presenting a powdered-up dressed for the ball so to speak moment representing high society & fashion. In my opinion, they both employ the perfect approach for their chosen subject. If we were to reverse the subject without swapping styles, the results would b awkward. I view their vision & execution as being equal.

  • @irenea.
    @irenea. 2 роки тому +218

    I absolutely love Waldermar, what an absolute delight the way he explains things!! It's just makes everything sound so fascinating and I'm so glad you are posting more video of him. It's a great pleasure 🙏

  • @loliloloso
    @loliloloso 2 роки тому +63

    Your "poor" daughters are great! Your style of making the series of films is like modern art: personal context, spontaneity and immediacy, very alike the subject matter, really fun and enlightening.

  • @oneday631
    @oneday631 2 роки тому +43

    There’s no comparison, they’re so different. I have been a great fan of John Singer Sargent for decades and I think he’s underrated. I hope more people appreciate his paintings

    • @kindnessfirst9670
      @kindnessfirst9670 Рік тому +5

      He IS underrated- but not by anyone who has ever painted a portrait.

    • @friedricengravy6646
      @friedricengravy6646 Рік тому

      He is one of my favorite, but I (like many) see or attempt to consider the subject chosen by the painter & then how or why they choose to present those moments in a certain way. In this case, both artists r painting very different subject matter. I think they both employ the perfect approach to each. If we swapped subjects between the two while they both executed their standard style/voice, I think both would create something awkward.
      We should start knowing that the artist (especially a master) is making a choice in place of assuming they cant draw or paint as representationally as another. When we assume instead that these r intentional choices, then we have a chance to see everything they r communicating.
      Stylistically u might just prefer Sargents choices, but as much as I love his choices, I do not want to see every subject painted by every artist in the same light.

    • @ZZ-qy5mv
      @ZZ-qy5mv Рік тому

      @@kindnessfirst9670 This is so true!

    • @johnw9245
      @johnw9245 6 місяців тому +2

      I know their styles are different but I don't think there's any comparison. Sargent is a vastly superior artist in my opinion.

  • @fleur7891
    @fleur7891 2 роки тому +95

    Waldemar J.'s films are a guaranteed delight and never disappoint. His knowledge mixed with his unique personal viewpoint produce a most enjoyable experience. Bravo, Mr J. !!!

  • @mojohn825
    @mojohn825 2 роки тому +52

    Another brilliant film by Waldemar the Great as I now call him. Brings art and artists to life like no other.

  • @QwertiusMaximus
    @QwertiusMaximus 2 роки тому +64

    Even Sargent's teacher in his portrait looked annoyed at how good Sargent was.

    • @susanmercurio1060
      @susanmercurio1060 2 роки тому +4

      You're so right. He seems to be thinking, "Oh, really?"

    • @salassian3162
      @salassian3162 2 роки тому +2

      Never underestimate how competitive most artists are, even with their best friends and lovers.

  • @SubTroppo
    @SubTroppo 2 роки тому +14

    Singer Sargent's watercolours of Venice etc mean that he has an added dimension which makes him the winner hands down.

  • @bricksloth6920
    @bricksloth6920 2 роки тому +18

    Another satisfying Waldemar documentary. Nice to include the kids.

  • @dmqb9311
    @dmqb9311 2 роки тому +31

    This has been added to my Waldemar is the MAN list.

  • @seaknightvirchow8131
    @seaknightvirchow8131 2 роки тому +6

    I would never have conceived of anyone comparing Sickert to Sargent but this was very enjoyable. If I could have the gifts of any artists in history I would have picked Sargent only after JMW Turner.

  • @tedclemens4093
    @tedclemens4093 2 роки тому +39

    Excellent contrast of artists! (A big admirer of Sargent, I had never heard of Sickert). But no need to pit them against each other when they compliment each other in the times. The gilded era wasn't all "it girls" and high society. Neither was it all prostitutes and dark rumors. I think one artist makes me appreciate the other all the more. Thank you!

  • @juliadagnall5816
    @juliadagnall5816 Рік тому +9

    One thing I feel doesn’t get enough love are Sargent’s watercolors. They’re bold and confident with punchy colors and strong contrasts between light and shadow. I love his oil paintings, but his watercolors and charcoal sketches are almost more impressive to me. An oil painting you can tweak over and over again but to be that bold with watercolor takes real flair. His watercolors are also a lot more personal than his portraits, he was painting what he liked and what interested him. They’re gorgeous.

    • @7kurisu
      @7kurisu Рік тому +2

      totally agrre! though i hasten to add that his use of oils were fast and bold, yet incredibly delicate. its true that only a master can be bold with watercolour

  • @horaciomillan4181
    @horaciomillan4181 2 роки тому +29

    The curious thing for me is that Madame X is possibly the most beautiful portrait in the world, while admiting Sickert is more substantial, I could never have one of his paintings in my home. Less of all in my room : could you sleep there?

    • @karlkarlos3545
      @karlkarlos3545 2 роки тому +1

      I could. Sargent is motly just kitsch.

    • @sarahwatts7152
      @sarahwatts7152 2 роки тому +3

      I'd have to hang it over the bed so it wasn't looking at me the whole time. Or you could hang it facing the bed in the guest bedroom when you're having a hard time shifting guests out of the house...

    • @Palmieres
      @Palmieres 2 роки тому +3

      @@karlkarlos3545 And what's wrong with that? Putting up a painting just because someone tells you you should like it, even if you don't, is silly. It's perfectly fine to enjoy kitsch if it gives you joy. People can prefer more than one type of art depending on their mood, just like you can listen to lighter or more meaningful music at different times of your life. Art appreciation should be free from guilt or embarrassment. Otherwise it's a chore, rather than a pleasure.
      Also, Sargent's technical ability is enough to bring a substantial amount of admiration and awe, regardless of theme.

    • @karlkarlos3545
      @karlkarlos3545 2 роки тому

      @@Palmieres What are you talking about?

    • @mozartsbumbumsrus7750
      @mozartsbumbumsrus7750 2 роки тому

      @@Palmieres absolutely! Reminds me if Getty's collection at Sutton Place: crap art by famous artists.

  • @mv11000
    @mv11000 Рік тому +13

    "...and I forced my own poor daughters to sing it." That's what I like about Waldemar: he's not just knowledgable and eager to spread his knowledge, he also has a great sense of humor. Thank you for uploading these series.

    • @jeff__w
      @jeff__w Рік тому

      Was that a joke?

  • @letsgosmokes5686
    @letsgosmokes5686 2 роки тому +20

    "...and you know how the French can be, about Americans." Plus lots more dry comedy gold.

  • @adagietto2523
    @adagietto2523 2 роки тому +24

    Great programme as always; I think Sargent's watercolours would have deserved a mention, he devoted a great deal of effort to them in his later years, and they show another side of his talent.

  • @bronteart
    @bronteart 2 роки тому +11

    Very well done Waldermar [ as always I might add]. As An aging artist now 70, and classically trained Sargent is one of the greatest Portrait artists of all time.[ my opinion.] Sickert on the other hand always looks for the mood of the painting. This can be light, location subject etc. Each followed a different discipline in art. Sickert in the 21st century is the winner. You look into the soul of the man expressing his realty through his art. A genius with canvas and paint. As a professional artist myself i wish I could paint like Sickert, but alas I cannot. Sargent , yes. I hope you can fathom the dichotomy this causes, painting portraits like Sargent but wishing for Sickert. Last note: you refer in your wrap at the end to 18th century, rather than 19th century. no matter it's a fabulous show as all you work testifies. Yes I've watched them all

    • @barbaraolson600
      @barbaraolson600 2 роки тому

      You sound very talented , please enjoy your talent as it is your gift to you and the world.

  • @solbeysbelouche784
    @solbeysbelouche784 2 роки тому +16

    How wonderful. I love Waldemar so much!!! His films are so clever and entertaining. Just a joy to watch! 🤩 I hope he continues making these marvels for years to come. What a treat!

  • @charlesgervin714
    @charlesgervin714 2 роки тому +10

    Aways, the most sensitive approach and usually the most engaging exploration. However I enjoyed that bit with your daughters, it made me smile and humanized you a bit more. Congratulations on having two beautiful children. Thanks once again for another informative and impactful conversation.

  • @GeorgeTennesseeWiseman
    @GeorgeTennesseeWiseman 2 роки тому +8

    Waldemar, you are amazing (as always). Absolutely charming that you included your lovely daughters in this program and the fact that you unearthed the music to that song .... well, obviously you are in a class by yourself and it is much appreciated by many of us, without a doubt. Please don't ever stop. We NEED you! Thank you again, for being great!

  • @GildaLee27
    @GildaLee27 2 роки тому +8

    'Piquant provocation'? Is that what that is? It's in the eye of the beholder, no? Whatever. What is clear is that Sargent appreciated women, while Sickert's eye humiliates them.

    • @melefth
      @melefth 2 роки тому

      Or might Sickert have painted women who were humiliated by the lives they led and the society/milieux they led them in? Perhaps in solidarity?

  • @moonstoneway2694
    @moonstoneway2694 2 роки тому +32

    Awesome as always. So many juicy tidbits. Sargent wins for me simply because I have a thing for Chinese lanterns and our world is too dark right now. Thank you!

    • @fleur7891
      @fleur7891 2 роки тому +3

      I personally agree with you. All art is subjective and what we would enjoy having in our homes is not necessarily what we would appreciate as an artist's success at accomplishing his/her objective in creating their work. Thank you for your comment.

    • @charlesfenwick6554
      @charlesfenwick6554 2 роки тому +3

      @@fleur7891 Astute comments. There are some great artists whom one would not necessarily want to see all of the time-Francis Bacon and Lucien Freud come to mind. The modern cult of ugliness takes precedence over the pursuit of beauty. Art should represent civilisation at its highest level but some artist particularly contemporary ones wish to drag it down to the lowest level.

  • @cinereus3601
    @cinereus3601 2 роки тому +12

    Finally some Sargent

  • @aaron2709
    @aaron2709 2 роки тому +8

    A more apt comparison would be Sickert with any of the Ashcan painters.

    • @johnt3611
      @johnt3611 2 роки тому +2

      yep, and Sargeant with Joaquin Sorolla. But, I guess that comparison doesn't give you the opportunity to play the "it's grungy and harsh so its better game" that is all too often the default agenda.

  • @lightbox617
    @lightbox617 2 роки тому +3

    Until the price went up to $25, I used to visit Madam X every year along with other Sargent portraits at the Met in NYC

  • @gabnsab
    @gabnsab Рік тому +1

    I'm completely baffled by this comparison. I would have understood it had he looked at 2 different portrait artists - but Sargent vs Sickert - what the? I adore Waldemar - he's my go to guy when I want to learn about art - he's informative, but also funny and entertaining. I'd love it if he did a whole episode just on Sargent - now that would be great.

  • @PeterPenguin77
    @PeterPenguin77 2 роки тому +19

    Sergeant’s paintings are always a rewarding delight to the eye and sensibility. He adored women and made even ordinary women shine with a spark of beauty. The world Seargent paints is light and radiant. Sickest however was a drear dark drudge… joyless in so many ways… let alone adding in Jack the Ripper. Every time I see a Seargeant painting I thrill to the artist’s skill. The living light in the portraits is something no camera can capture. I don’t see why Seargeant doesn’t win the highest artistic accolades. Just because an artist is crude, I don’t think that makes them a more significant artist. Sergeant is the Mozart of painting portraits… Sickert is the monkey grinder’s organ. Lol!

    • @johnm9845
      @johnm9845 Рік тому +1

      Stupid comparison.Just because an artist doesn't float your boat doesn't make him less of an artist. Sickert celebrated life too. In his paintings of music halls, theatres and domestic interior scenes you gain an appreciation of the vitality of popular culture as well as the drabness of lives lived then. He was a man for all seasons unlike Sargent who was studio bound and painted accomplished portraits for fat commissions. Sickert was complex, forthright with a difficult personality, and could never be accused of blandness or conformity. Certainly,he would seem a much more interesting character than Sargent. His American counterpart was admired for his technique but bedevilled by criticisms of superficiality in his portraiture. He later specialised in murals and working en plein air and expressed mixed feelings about his earlier work. You state you don't understand why Sargent doesn't achieve higher praise. However,his reputation has undergone a reappraisal by some critics who admire his work and regard him as a post impressionist.But,then you obviously didn't know that such is your supreme confidence in your ignorance. Indeed it's difficult to take you seriously, particularly when you're simply incapable of correctly spelling the name of a painter you profess to admire so much. How strange.

  • @williamschlenger1518
    @williamschlenger1518 Рік тому +2

    As a portrait artist,I have studied & copied Sargent's works & they always amaze me

  • @krbailess
    @krbailess 2 роки тому +11

    I’ve been looking forward to this episode for weeks. It was as advertised! Waldemar is always perfect. ❤

  • @JanetCaterina
    @JanetCaterina 2 роки тому +2

    Wonderful, thank you Waldemar from a Canadian Gautreau who has always studied John Singer Sargent with interest

  • @terryhand
    @terryhand 2 роки тому +10

    Although they were contemporaries I've never thought of making a comparison, which made this documentary all the more enticing. Sargent was indeed tied to the 18th century, but he did it with such bravura and facility that it is impossible not to be drawn to the magic of his paintings. Sickert, on the other hand was indeed more the man of his time. The emotional intensity and the darkness of his paintings were perhaps a portend of the darkness that would engulf Europe in the 20th century. Having said that, he was also still part of an earlier tradition in art that was being pulled down by the Modernism movement in Europe. Looking at them both now in 2022 and detaching them from their time I find them both too interesting to declare winner in this match. A draw?
    Waldemar should be declared a National Treasure!

    • @jeffhreid
      @jeffhreid 2 роки тому +1

      How was Sargent tied to the 18th century? He was born in the 19th century and most of his career was in the 20th century. Nothing of his style was typical of the painting of the 18th century. It’s a bit of a nonsensical comment

    • @isbe1007
      @isbe1007 2 роки тому

      Each artist is a perfect expression of separate but parallel life-worlds of Edwardian London. Both are great in their own way, but let's just say it's Waldemar who wins the round!

  • @bruceweigle7597
    @bruceweigle7597 2 роки тому +3

    and I "forced" my own poor daughter to sing it. lol. I bet she was happy to do it for dad. Thanks for another wonderful, educational and insightful presentation.

  • @TonyMiller.13
    @TonyMiller.13 2 роки тому +11

    🧑🏽‍🎨 I love Perspective ❤️
    Specially with Waldemar..
    Everything he explains has more meaning, more intense meaning. Definitely my favorite art Documenter 🎨
    I wish he could tell my story.

  • @vanaals
    @vanaals 2 роки тому +2

    Such a morbid rendition of "Bicycle Built for Two" accompanying the first portion of Sickert and his dreary room. Very fitting.

    • @andybaldman
      @andybaldman 2 роки тому

      It’s just in a minor key.
      But yes.

  • @sayyeahtome
    @sayyeahtome 2 роки тому +2

    Bardzo dziękuję za kolejną fascynującą podróż do świata sztuki. Z niecierpliwością czekam na każdą kolejną wyprawę. Pozdrowienia z Krakowa!

  • @kennylong7281
    @kennylong7281 2 роки тому +2

    Waldemar Januszczak is a great Teacher, Presenter, and Communicator! I will not miss a single one of his videos.

  • @janetdiesnis456
    @janetdiesnis456 2 роки тому +8

    Made my day. Sargent for me....

  • @damienkearns3654
    @damienkearns3654 2 роки тому +2

    I just watched your Michelangelo Sistine Chapel Secret documentary today on Sky Arts, 2+ hours beautifully spent. Love the art, the buildings and your story telling is amazing - Thank you so much!

  • @kathyastrom1315
    @kathyastrom1315 2 роки тому +2

    Back in the late ‘80s, I saw a wonderful Sargent exhibition at the Art Institute of Chicago. Being a college student who was just starting to get into art, I really didn’t yet appreciate portraiture as a genre. It took seeing Sargent’s work to change my mind. I fell in love with his style and his ability to bring life to his subjects. Madame X and Carnation, Lily, Lily, Rose were stunning works, but my favorite was Mr. and Mrs. I.N. Phelps Stokes. I just stared at that painting for minutes, creating an entire story of their lives in my head.

    • @tinkerstrade3553
      @tinkerstrade3553 2 роки тому +1

      I used to make a practice of going to transition points to find characters for my stories. A train station, an underground, a dockside, even a lowly bus station, have "types", within which reside individual stories.
      For entirely different reasons, and along divergent roads, both artists require your participation for their works to truly live. And that after all, is the purpose of all types of art.

  • @LaughsWithKnives
    @LaughsWithKnives 2 роки тому +4

    i was just looking for this yesterday after hearing it in waldemar's top 3 on this channel!

  • @davidescozzi9885
    @davidescozzi9885 2 роки тому +4

    Mr Waldemar it has a wonderful way of talking and an admiring knowledge about the subjects that he choose in every video. I love his style, and I think that it has an enormous potential toward the way of telling about arts.

  • @damienkearns3654
    @damienkearns3654 2 роки тому +1

    Carnation Lily, Lily Rose 🌹 by John Singer Sargent, beautiful painting.

  • @carriedoyne7362
    @carriedoyne7362 2 роки тому +12

    Ahhh... my favorite art critic/historan! Truly a pleasure to watch as Waldemar makes storytelling its own art form. Also, Seargent wins this bout in my opinion. His portraiture is absolutely stunning, and I wish that type of painting was more popular today.

  • @thejyothi1283
    @thejyothi1283 2 роки тому +2

    Well done , great singing in behalf of your daughter🙏🏼❤️

  • @sweetie4915
    @sweetie4915 Рік тому +1

    The ending by Waldemar was especially brilliant and demonstrates he is the voice that our World needs. Thank you so very much for all that you do! God Bless, and Happy Easter pal!

  • @marianaprates9379
    @marianaprates9379 2 роки тому +1

    Waldemar, my native language is portuguese, but all my life I've studied English and art history. With you, I do both and is always so interesting and amusing. Your work is the best. Thank you.

  • @gems34
    @gems34 2 роки тому +6

    So enjoy your work

    • @TonyMiller.13
      @TonyMiller.13 2 роки тому +1

      🧑🏽‍🎨 always do ❤️

  • @douglaswynn9668
    @douglaswynn9668 2 роки тому +26

    Your viewers should understand that Singer’s interpretation of the privileged, elitists of his time shouldn’t diminish the “Substance” of his work even if he was one of them

    • @ShaneyElderberry
      @ShaneyElderberry 2 роки тому +6

      Imagine if people did the same with the fictions of Henry James and Edith Wharton. Sometimes it seems as though it takes a lot of effort for many people to admire the quality of a work, rather than the subject.

  • @jnhinton
    @jnhinton 3 місяці тому

    In the contest between Waldemar Januszczak and other art historians, it's a KO for him! This was so creatively presented!

  • @Haroupi
    @Haroupi 2 роки тому +3

    When I grow up I want to be like Waldemar! :)

  • @jeff__w
    @jeff__w Рік тому +1

    11:33 “…on January the 12th, which is my birthday, too.”
    That makes three of us. Not what I expected watching this video.

  • @dqskymagne2762
    @dqskymagne2762 Рік тому +2

    "...and I've forced my own poor daughters to sing it". 6:19 Much of the charm of this series comes from the editing in of related materials and I was just thinking how damn charming it was to have these two girls playing and singing this song, especially with their dresses and braces. At that moment, I discovered that these are the daughters of Waldemar. Wow. I love this guy and I love this art series. It's informative and entertaining.

  • @marygem
    @marygem 2 роки тому +8

    Why try turning Art and artists into a fight? Why not peacably enjoy them both?

    • @glumsulk
      @glumsulk 2 роки тому +2

      Its specifically about their contemporary popularity, and whether or not one was considered better by the public, it seems. Not that you cant enjoy both lol.

    • @marygem
      @marygem 2 роки тому

      @@glumsulk who really cares who's the more important? Who is biying either?

    • @mvmmotovlogmusic2815
      @mvmmotovlogmusic2815 2 роки тому +1

      It’s just a “ploy” to expose each artist’s work. No one involved actually gets knockered in the face.

  • @amatobo384
    @amatobo384 2 роки тому

    There are "van Goghs", "Monets", "Sargents".... this is yet another true Januszczak. Like a true artist, with every brush stroke Waldemar takes you by the hand and leads you into the picture. I sit and watch in amazement.

  • @katestyrsky329
    @katestyrsky329 2 роки тому +3

    Oh but I think Sargent could and did present a view of a harsh, cruel future when he painted his tableau of WWI soldiers suffering from mustard gas. It's a heartbreaker.

  • @keybawd4023
    @keybawd4023 2 роки тому +1

    Absolutely fascinating. It's so much more than just a lecture about Art. The biographies and stories make the artists come alive along with their art. And both become memorable. Thank you. And please keep making these wonderful videos.

  • @MrRichiekaye
    @MrRichiekaye 2 роки тому +1

    The second time I've watched this all the way through and just as enjoyable! I think I've watched 15 or perhaps more of Waldy's shows and many podcasts.

  • @douglaswynn9668
    @douglaswynn9668 2 роки тому +10

    Good film but utterly ridiculous to compare the two. Both are very good artist’s but are just totally different. To say Sickert is more substantial is just ridiculous in terms of his place, importance and substance in history. I had never even heard of Sickert until I watched this film (as I suspect of most viewers).

    • @melefth
      @melefth 2 роки тому

      I'd never heard of Sargent, but knew quite a lot about Sickert after a visit to the MoMA turned me into a fan.

    • @Fotqueen
      @Fotqueen 2 роки тому

      I agree strongly- one look at a Sargent watercolor and u know he is a master artist equals to the best who ever held a brush.

    • @andybaldman
      @andybaldman 2 роки тому

      It got you to watch the film, didn’t it?

  • @TD-qi2rw
    @TD-qi2rw 2 роки тому +1

    Thank you again and again and..........another rich and wonderful film!!!!!!!!

  • @PatGillin
    @PatGillin 5 місяців тому

    You are a joy to listen to and learn. Thank you so much.

  • @barbarasterner7863
    @barbarasterner7863 Рік тому

    I´ve just discovered Perspective. It turned a rainy, gray day into something wonderful! Thanks, Waldemar J!

  • @Fotqueen
    @Fotqueen 2 роки тому +2

    If you look at skill and technique- Sargent - hands down - have u ever seen a Sargent watercolor? He is a Master artist- important artist- Sargent body of work and skill level makes him eclipse Sickert -whom nobody ever heard of- 10 fold

  • @jeffolsen4983
    @jeffolsen4983 2 роки тому +6

    I'm surprised/puzzled, that in the wrap up, Waldemar twice says "18th century" when his subject has been of the late 19th and early 20th century.

    • @petrolillos
      @petrolillos 2 роки тому +5

      I think it was deliberated, Sargent indeed is closer to the optimism of Reynolds and Gainsborough. Sickert on the other hand is pure XX century bleakness.

    • @fleur7891
      @fleur7891 2 роки тому +2

      It is a trait of much spoken speakers to sometimes misspeak without realizing that at the time. Good catch on your part, thank you for your comment.

    • @fleur7891
      @fleur7891 2 роки тому +3

      @@petrolillos Your comment is most interesting and may be correct, thank you for sharing.

    • @georgina3358
      @georgina3358 2 роки тому +1

      @@fleur7891 The 18th century was said deliberately, I think. If it had been a mistake, they would have shot the section of the presentation again

  • @artomatt
    @artomatt 2 роки тому +6

    So the conclusion is that Sickert was the more important artist. Did I miss something? Was that established in this documentary? Why was he more important?
    I did enjoy this overall, though.

    • @TonyMiller.13
      @TonyMiller.13 2 роки тому +1

      🧑🏽‍🎨 I'm watching the video right now..
      Let me find out....than get back to you🤔

    • @fleur7891
      @fleur7891 2 роки тому +1

      All art is subjective so another art historian may very well come to the opposite conclusion. How many paintings in the Paris Salons were rejected then later considered masterpieces? I think that is what makes art history so much fun, we all get to decide for ourselves what is art.

    • @artomatt
      @artomatt 2 роки тому +1

      @@fleur7891 Agreed. It's just that he uses the word "important" at the end, which suggests to me influence on subsequent artists. I'm thinking maybe I don't know enough about 20th century British art... Just searched Sickert's name, and Wikipedia says 'He was an important influence on distinctively British styles of avant-garde art in the mid- and late 20th century." So I guess that's my answer!

    • @fleur7891
      @fleur7891 2 роки тому

      @@artomatt Wikipedia gave one opionion, another source could give a differnt one, who is able to make a difinative answer in a subject of subjectivity ? If you get my drift. Art history is full of artists thought hacks at the time they created their art, only to be granted masterpiece status posthumously.

  • @ApAcVideoWatcher
    @ApAcVideoWatcher 2 роки тому +4

    I've never liked Sargent. His paintings bore me to tears. I totally acknowledge he's extraordinarily talented and has a great use of light, but I always wonder how much of those who love him today do so because they don't want balked at by their peers. I'd take Sickert because his paintings buzz with life and his shadows dance with the light. His paintings feel like they could come alive.
    Thank you for this delightful visual and audio experience. 🦋

    • @ShaneyElderberry
      @ShaneyElderberry 2 роки тому +2

      Sargent’s paintings look a bit like some of the scenes of Henry James’ stories, before their bitter sweet endings. The paintings are technically marvelous, especially from the perspective of other painters. Like James, the painter acknowledged the vapid content of his work, so a great deal of the later paintings focused on landscapes.

    • @ApAcVideoWatcher
      @ApAcVideoWatcher 2 роки тому

      @@ShaneyElderberry I agree with everything you say. Yes, I'm familiar with his landscapes. I'm one of the people who don't like most landscapes. It's kind of like with music. Someone can be technically flawless, which is a real accomplishment, but without the soul there's just something missing. To me, his paintings are soulless, but he definitely had an extraordinary attention to detail. Thank you for bringing up the Henry James stories. 🦋

    • @charlesfenwick6554
      @charlesfenwick6554 2 роки тому +1

      @@ApAcVideoWatcher Landscapes are not like portraits which are meant to make you think and contemplate the character of the person portrayed. A good landscape has one enter the scene and lose oneself within it.; a different experience in observation.

    • @ApAcVideoWatcher
      @ApAcVideoWatcher 2 роки тому

      @@charlesfenwick6554 Hi Charles. Thank you for pointing that out in case I didn't understand. That's why I said I don't like "most" landscapes. I'm not able to do what you're describing with most I've seen. On occasion one might stand out and transport me. In general, my brain reads them as lifeless attempts of the real thing. Of course, I do recognize that's not what they are at all. Unfortunately, other than from a purely logical place, I don't perceive them as something to get lost in unless very special. I wish I did. It's frustrating to not be able to see what I hear or read so many people claim over various paintings. I just can't grasp it sometimes in spite of my best effort. Sometimes I can.
      A great case in point would be a print I bought of some wooded landscape years ago. I couldn't tell who the painter was from the signature and I never bothered trying to find out. The print was a silver halide printing on canvas 36" x 48" with the perfect frame around it. There was some type of glazing or something to do with the printing itself that made the foggy, twilight lit forest appear to shiver and move. Not really, but you couldn't be for sure it wasn't. I don't know if the original painting would have produced the same emotional tug in me as however they managed the print. I don't know near enough about printing to know what was done. It was a wet, European wood. I'm fairly certain. No idea if it was from the imagination or not. I must have been in my mid 20s. Maybe late 20s. I didn't care about names or titles then and I didn't have the same appreciation for technique and skill I have now. I only cared if something moved me. It was the thing that mattered. Everything else was irrelevant. The painter in me can tell someone came back and added the textured brush strokes in with an overglaze. I don't know if the so very subtle ghostly almost a color shift but more like a shadow and light shift was done within the printing process or within the finishing process. I just know the finished piece seemed unreal. Might as well have been an invitation into Narnia. I stared at that painting forever trying to figure out why I was so drawn to it because the forest scene didn't really call out to me. And yet, it really got me. Which reminds me... I need to tell my ex I'd like my printing from the closet it's gotten buried in because I didn't have a place for it. lol Thank you for reminding me.
      I'm glad you're able to get lost in landscapes. I've always been envious of people who can do that because I have such a fondness for the real deal. Am even envious of people who enjoy painting them. I appreciate them to that degree and even find them remarkable in a sense. Unfortunately, it's very rare I feel anything from them beyond acknowledgement of what the image is and an admiration in the technical abilities or if some particular choice made by the painter might catch my eye and I can focus on it. I'd love to be able to be moved all the time in the way the darn print succeeded in. If you experience that all the time, you are most fortunate indeed and I am most happy for you.
      Why is your name tugging at me? I'm so horrible with remembering names. Is that from The Magicians? It's from something, or rather something shares it with you if it's your actual name. Please pardon my sidestep there. The curiosity of it catching my attention grabs at me, so I have to go figure out where the character, fictional or historical, comes from that's tugging at me memory. Thank you for both intrigues. 😀🦋

  • @BigOscarMan
    @BigOscarMan 2 роки тому +5

    Good video but maybe next time leave some of the bias out of it. Wish you had included some of Sargents landscapes. Instead you put him in a little box.

    • @melefth
      @melefth 2 роки тому +1

      It would be drab without the bias. It's art: everyone has an opinion and should defend it to the death! Until tomorrow, when they defend a different opinion to the death. It's on-the-surface unbiased media that are most insidious, I feel: through others' opinions, we develop out own!

  • @rachelschmidt-radde4605
    @rachelschmidt-radde4605 2 роки тому +1

    What an amazing soundtrack on this Art documentary -- a clever highlight is "A Bicycle Built for Two" in a minor key during the description of Sickert's lighting technique.

  • @ts3784
    @ts3784 2 роки тому +5

    WHEN ARE WE GOING TG O SEE VALDEMAR AS A LEADING ROLL IN A MASTER THRILLER

  • @samchapple6363
    @samchapple6363 2 роки тому +3

    Well that explains my grandmother love of Sargent, born in 1900

  • @timrutter5025
    @timrutter5025 2 роки тому +1

    Wonderful as always, filled lots of gaps in the lives of these 2 great artists.

  • @maddietighe5881
    @maddietighe5881 Рік тому

    Thanks for making this video about this kind of art accessible to people from Sickert's side of the tracks. This video is awesome.

  • @dorettawilson7726
    @dorettawilson7726 2 роки тому +2

    I love this series as all of Waldy's are so interesting. I've learned so much. Sickert & Sargent need to meet Bellows!

  • @adhoc9647
    @adhoc9647 7 місяців тому

    Pure joy to watch ! Beautiful, just beautiful ! THANK YOU !

  • @timtrainor9720
    @timtrainor9720 2 роки тому +1

    I can listen to this guy all day, he's opened my eyes to art, ty

  • @stephanmotzek779
    @stephanmotzek779 2 роки тому +3

    So good, so good.

  • @finch45lear
    @finch45lear Рік тому +1

    Waldemar ,you are a treasure . But I think you know that. Anyway thank you for these priceless documentaries.

  • @YO3A007
    @YO3A007 2 роки тому +2

    I love Sargent's work. He caught the "good" and the "optimistic" and the "godly."

  • @schill1758
    @schill1758 2 роки тому +1

    Just happened across this - what a thoroughly enjoyable hour! Waldemar has such a unique way of presenting that makes his subjects so interesting and compelling to watch. Very thought provoking viewpoints and always injected with a sense of humour or tongue in cheek perspective. Looking out for more - Subscribed.

  • @jayolovitt5969
    @jayolovitt5969 Рік тому +2

    Sargent is a better painter, without question. And his sketches are beautiful too. But Sickert’s work actually makes me feel more. There’s a sort of weird nostalgia in his paintings, as though even when he painted it he was feeling the moment’s impermanence. They feel like someone’s memories, faded and ordinary but the best or most memorable moments of some person’s life. I dunno, they’re haunting.

  • @slowerpicker
    @slowerpicker Рік тому

    This show is a real force of tour. So much to admire from these artists and Januszczak’s analysis.

  • @QueenBee-gx4rp
    @QueenBee-gx4rp 2 роки тому

    Wonderful to see your lovely and accomplished girls! I’ve had the great good fortune to have seen that painting up close and personal. I love Sargent’s work….🌖🌗🌒

  • @williamfelton905
    @williamfelton905 4 місяці тому

    Love love your documentaries. I feel my soul has been fed. ❤❤

  • @tamaraheater9695
    @tamaraheater9695 10 місяців тому

    OMGoodness....the best channel on YT since the inception!. wow.

  • @isabel95
    @isabel95 Рік тому

    Waldemar, this is your best art history video yet! I never tire of them and keep on learning from you with your wonderful frank sense of humor. I love your choices of music. I love your daughter's singing - and I assume the piano accompaniment, the minor version of "Daisy, Daisy" and I have a greater appreciation for wide angle photography from the excellent videography throughout the series. As long as you can, please continue making these very enjoyable presentations.

  • @Gizgirl70
    @Gizgirl70 2 роки тому +1

    Oooh fantastic, I stem from the Sickert family side in Germany and this is a great investigation.

  • @coleturnis6751
    @coleturnis6751 10 місяців тому

    I have learned so much by watching your videos! Thank you for putting these together. :)

  • @StephiSensei26
    @StephiSensei26 2 роки тому +1

    Waldemar has that special Pied Piper mercurial something that can entice, even someone like myself, who is not a fan of Edwardian Period painting in particular, to not only enjoy, but also whet ones appetite for the next delightful tidbit, of curio shop background historical information (mixed in with a smattering of gritty gutter gore, just for color). Most likely, I will never be an impassioned patron of Edwardian painting, neither by Sergeant nor his arch rival Sickert, but Waldemar has opened yet again another door, from behind which, one may glimpse a fleeting moment into that mysterious undiscovered country, of art. Brilliant production.
    PS: Would someone please let me know what that famous guitar melody playing at 20:04 is?
    Thank you Perspective and Waldemar J.

    • @lordofthemound3890
      @lordofthemound3890 2 роки тому +1

      According to Shazam, it’s
      Albéniz: Tango, Op.165, No.2 by Eduardo Fernandez

    • @StephiSensei26
      @StephiSensei26 2 роки тому +1

      @@lordofthemound3890 Thank you so much.😁

    • @StephiSensei26
      @StephiSensei26 2 роки тому +2

      @@lordofthemound3890 Thank you so much. Love Albeniz!

  • @natascialind3827
    @natascialind3827 Рік тому

    Excellent,excellent,excellent presentation!!! Fascinating and unforgettable.

  • @devinmichaelroberts9954
    @devinmichaelroberts9954 Рік тому +2

    Only an englishman would think there is even a comparison. Sargent is one of the best artists of all time.

  • @susanneanna2421
    @susanneanna2421 2 роки тому +3

    The best!

  • @myL0STleftS0CK
    @myL0STleftS0CK 2 роки тому +1

    I watch anything Waldemar hosts. Another hit!

  • @Artimisia_studios76
    @Artimisia_studios76 Рік тому

    I love all the amazing work that you’ve done, thank you so much. I enjoy watching all of your productions.🙏🏻🏆🙌

  • @andrewclayton4181
    @andrewclayton4181 2 роки тому

    Great documentary by Waldermar again! !
    In the children's book, The family at one end street, the Ruggles call their first daughter Lily Rose after the Sargent painting mentioned at the start of the film. 60 years later I've stumbled on an image and background info. It's never too late to learn stuff! All that chat about Mornington Crescent tickled me as well!
    Think I'll have to watch it again.

  • @Dan-dg9pi
    @Dan-dg9pi 2 роки тому

    Waldemar's videos are pure delight. They are as unique as a name that has two "A"s and two "Z"s!

  • @lisengel2498
    @lisengel2498 Рік тому +1

    I did not know Sickert but what a gorgeous painter he is too. For me both these painters are really interesting and to me they illustrated very clearly that art is not really a battle to find a winner and a looser. Its much more about experiential qualities of unique moments - its about uniqueness of each moment of life and yet at the same time being part of life - they both express beauty but from very different perspectives 🎶🖤🎵

  • @josephnazoa8724
    @josephnazoa8724 6 місяців тому

    Your videos, can't they get more creative? Love them! Huge thanks! 👏🏽☝🏽

  • @AS-qg1xu
    @AS-qg1xu 2 роки тому +1

    Love you and your enthusiasm Waldemar. I really liked the Patricia Cornwell book where she provides her theory that Walter Sickert was Jack the Ripper.

  • @hive71recordinz89
    @hive71recordinz89 2 роки тому

    Waldermar, is the only reason, I come here, wonderful narration, beautiful art, needs more waldermar.

  • @billbreuer3035
    @billbreuer3035 2 роки тому

    another great treat from Waldemar!! The magic touch is still there.