Right, but back then, they weren't trying to sell you a heap of cardboard for $70 and telling you to imagine the fun...... "It's always about the games" he said......
it is, nintendo isn't shit compared to playstation or even the lackluster xbox, it's a joke, it had it's day in the sun from 87-90, and once more for a brief period of time when the 64 came out, but then sony hammered in the final nails of that even, so it is funny, because it's a brand that struggles to maintain when it clearly doesn't have the firepower to compete, the people who buy nintendo today are geeks or generational adults that are living off the original nintendo nostalgia of the 80's
Still Dreaming Same here. As much as I like modern look backs/reviews on older games and hardware, I enjoy stuff from that era even more (especially with predictions that end up being totally wrong like Nintendo being on its “last legs”).
"Sega's Genesis is Nintendo's nemesis" - brilliant line. I was half expecting a 23-year younger Michael Pachter to appear telling us how Nintendo would never survive that holiday season.
Orlando Steward they should really call it the Sonic and Mario war, because in 1991 after Sega released Sonic, the battle was on for king supreme, and through 1992 SEGA had the majority of the market, it was in 1993 that Nintendo finally clawed it back, but the Genesis was being miss-managed by Sega with that stupid 32-X, the CD, Saturn right around the corner, etc, etc.
Jude Law I agree with everything you just Sega fucked up big time if they had managed the Genesis right they would of the war if they didn't take there eye off the ball
Just wow. The kid at 1:41 is me. Josh. I haven't seen this special for a good decade and more. I remember when the Good Morning America crew came to over too, they were pretty nice if I remember. I also remember all of us being so excited to show off our "skills" in mario, as if they would actually be impressed. Ah man, now I'm all nostalgic. Keep playing!
Weird, 14 years old video randomly pops up on my feed, showing a 10 years old comment at the top, with 3 replies all within 24 hours. UA-cam, you crazy? 😂But it's awesome to see these, such nostalgia (although I am a bit younger, was born in the 90 and Super Nintendo was my first console, but still).
***** geez, did you not play games in 1990? NEC (TurboGrafx 16) was around, Atari (7800) was around, Sega (Genesis) was around, and Nintendo (NES) was around. If you have Nintendo with roughly 90%, that means Sega couldn't have had 10%, because that would leave NEC and Atari at 0%, which they weren't because they both sold games in 1990.
***** True story. All video games were referred to by most people as "Nintendo" didn't matter what system. Also, if you recall, a lot of older people referred to the games as "Nintendo tapes" ;D
johnhasaguitar i been playin forever and call everything nintendo. most people trip out or give me shit. while i do own an original nintendo, i play games like madden on playstation. and i call the remote a paddle.
I like how the man's answer had jack shit to do with the OPs question. It's like if someone asked me "Do I make a left here to go to the local fair or should I keep going straight?" and I replied with "FUCK TRUMP!!!"
Because none of the grown ups in this production had ever played a videogame [with the exception of the interviewed gaming executives]. This is why Nintendo had to use the movie metaphor. It was still the age when TV people didn't get or understand videogames. Some of this stupidity continues to this day. Which is why I watch videogame stuff on UA-cam, and not on my TV downstairs.
I’m Tom Holtzer (the actual spelling is Holzer) in this video. Can’t believe this was over 30 years ago! It’s great to revisit this wonderful snippet in time. Thanks for posting this and for being back good memories.
yeah they thought they being hip and cool would win over the crowds. LIke the nintendo rep said, its about the games not how flashy the console claims to be. too bad they cant follow their own example today.
no no, their games are shit. So their flashy consoles (controllers that have motion sensors, ridiculous controller layouts, strangely odd console s design) is everything Nintendo wasnt.
The thing is, Sega of America knew how to do good marketing and were actually dethroning Nintendo, with good games to boot, but Sega of Japan and their envy-fueled directors just couldn't handle that the West was being better than them and put everything to lose with their close-mindedness. They still can do good games, though.
+John O I was going to say the exact same thing. I love how the kids spoke about their gaming experiences. Proud to have lived that. NES memories for life!
BlueRice It SHOULD be true. But most people nowadays buy games for graphics. If the game looks like crap, a lot of people won't buy it, even if it's good. Most companies do the same thing. make sure the graphics are good before making sure the actual game is good.
Given that this aired a week before Christmas, I'm sure they figured that a lot of parents were buying games for their kids as gifts. There are probably also some adults gifting games to other adults as well as adults buying games for themselves, but I have a feeling a majority of games that were bought around that time were going to kids as gifts.
That and people were probably remembering the crash of '82 - were parents really going to splash out c. $40 per game based on how well Atari had done with "ET"? I must admit, even UK parents were very reluctant to buy multiple games for one system (based on my own straw-poll research). In 1991, games cost around £30 and it was really cost-prohibitive to have a videogame habit that couldn't be fed by swapping carts with your friends.
Vieweracc99 Were you even alive in 1982? What crash of '82? They didn't even have any discounts or lack of games in 1982, 1983 was a consumer's dream with tons of games, and hardware in stores, but in 1984 the market was dead, I couldn't find any new games in stores, most had them in discount bins, so after school I used to rummage through them only to find Othello and other crap games no one wanted. It "crashed" in 1984 despite what you may read on "Wrongipedia", I know I EXPERIENCED IT!
Jude Law I'm talking about the fact that Atari rushed out ET, and the fallout afterwards (Remember the Alamagordo!) Thanks for thinking I'm younger than I am...how charming!
Kids these days....they don't know the horrors of the Great War of the 90s. Those of us who live through it we still wake up screaming....I still remember the battle of the Mortal Kombats 20,000 SNES and Genesis Gamers went over the top in only 10 SNES gamers and 5 Genesis Gamers returned...the pizza boxes, the wasted mt. dew, the broken catridges and melted consoles...the horror, the horror
+snakes3425 No, it was pretty simple. Sega released the Genesis in the US about two years before the SNES and it was apparent right from the start how much more advanced the Genesis was over the NES. I still think the Genesis beats the SNES for overall total great games, but SNES had their gems too. Super Mario Kart is the best 16 bit racing game, even better than MarioKart64. Mortal Kombat was better on Genesis, but MK2 was far superior on SNES. Phantasy Star II is superior to A Link to the Past(I know I'll get some flak for that one).
Always loved this video as it's quite wholesome, the kids talking why they love the games, the businessman showing what's in store for the future, and to make it better, the news reporter talking about it in a natural manner, without mockery or showing that she has no idea of what she's talking about Maybe she didn't, but still having a professional stance
'when I do get a new game it's fun to play it a lot, because you get to explore new places you've never been before'. Well said, 1990's kid, well said.
18 years later and Howard Phillips is still right. It's always been about the games. But I'm glad to see Tom Kalinske because without him, Sega never would have made it in America.
Phvrvoh Phonk PSX isn't the original Playstation. PSX only came out in Japan and it was basically a PS2 with a built in HDD. Search Gamester81 PSX on UA-cam.
Zarkiv PSX is the original Playstation. That was it's the industry used for Playstation for years before Sony released the PSX (which was a glorified PS2 and DVR) in Japan back in 2004. Go learn your video game facts, since you are obviously failing video games 101.
2:53 this guy fucking gets it, it has always been about THE GAMES! Even today, how much this remains true. I don't give a flying fuck if a PS4 or X1 can play movies, browse the internet, play football, wash my dishes and maw my lawn, if good games aren't there then I won't buy a system. Its funny how these companies seem to strive for other markets and audiences with each new console and yet they forget what it has always been about, the Gamers and their Games.
But Sony is concentrating on the games. They just gave us inFamous Second Son, MGS V Ground Zeroes is out, Mercenary Kings. Xbox 1 is more about the tv crap than anything else.
Jian Costa I'd like to show them Rouge the Bat so they could begin wondering which one of them will turn out to be the sicko who put a pair of breasts on a bat. XD
I don't know if I should get a Sega Genesis or wait for the Super Nintendo to arrive. :) *btw I can't believe I actually got to see Tom Kalinski and he looks focused, after reading Console Wars I have huge respect for the guy. Sega was a real fighter.
1990: The Genesis is 16-bit, is it the end of Nintendo? 1996: The Nintendo 64 uses cartridges, is it the end of Nintendo? 2001: The GameCube is too kiddy, is it the end of Nintendo? 2006: The Wii is too gimmicky, is it the end of Nintendo? 2013: The Wii U is barely selling at all, is it the end of Nintendo? Noticing a trend? Reply to me if you do.
To be fair, they _were_ just electronic toys. Especially back then before more narrative focused games became the norm; it was just something to play with, not something that had any deeper artistic value
@@ShaunDreclin tbh I think most modern narrative based games are really boring. I don’t feel like I’m playing a game half the time I feel like I’m watching a movie. I just want to enjoy the gameplay and then here comes a cutscene then another cutscene then another cutscene. I hate that, I much rather prefer the pick up and play style of retro games.
Well I started playing Video Games at the age of 3 in 1988, my parents had an Atari 2600. In 1990 I got my Nintendo Entertainment System for Christmas. Now I'm 28 years old, and i still play all my Nintendo games.
It's funny just how uptight Tom Kalinske is compared to the childlike behavior of Howard Phillips. Howie is even wearing a bow tie for crying out loud. XD
I remember my stepdad taking me to mall and made me wait in the car for an hour. I had no idea why. He comes strolling out with a clear GameBoy playing Tetris. I never wanted one or even knew what it was. He just wanted it for himself.
It's mind blowing to me to think that there are kids growing up today only knowing what the current generations of systems can do as video games and not experiencing the magic of the 16-bit era. Makes me feel old at 21...
How is that mind blowing? Do you not realize that not everyone is born during the same time period? Think about how many generations were born before you, now think about how many will be born after you. You just so happened to be born during a time period of retro games. That doesn’t make you special.
***** They only demolished the Master System by using illegal business practices which was bullying stores into not selling Master System, locking 3rd parties to contracts saying they can only make games for the NES. Yeah, real fair competition buddy. As for demolishing the competition, Sony would be the true victor. PS1 sold over 100 million consoles PS2 sold over 155 million consoles Sony did what Nintendo couldn't with their previous systems, the only reason why the Wii did so well was because of the gimmick because once that gimmick dried up so did Nintendo again.
@@LUCKO2022 ok I know this is a late comment but Nintendo didn't use Illigal practices and they had 3rd party companies sign contracts in order to avoid another market crash
I wish I was a Child for the 80s/90s. Being able to experience gaming back when you had to go to arcades to play your games would be so cool. Playing through the classics back when they were still new. Arcades also seem like such a fun environment/social space. Being able to experience the rise of consoles and home gaming would also be great, especially in an economy in which the video game market wasn't littered with copycats and killfests.
"First and foremost, it's games." I like how even 23 years later, they haven't changed their idealistic motto about putting fun before toting their hardware.
Yep, everyone who still remembers Nintendo and how great it was recalls the 90's as the time of its demise! Never would we see another Mario game (he does appear in Sonic Runners 8 but it's just not the same). Nowadays it's Sega this and Sega that - almost nobody even recollects poor Nintendo.
The 80s really started the video game craze. The 70s was treated as a fad. Parents were still in the same mindset that it was a toy. The 90s would change that with more adult stuff though.
my god as a french 01:23 I am totally amazed to hear the children from the 80s, how clearly they speak American English. I mean, as a French person, I can understand every word because they articulate so well, compared to today's kids where I don't understand at all what they're talking about. They eat up words, use slang that I have no explanation for, not even on the internet. It's incredible! Know that we have the same phenomenon in France with our language; we no longer understand today's youth as they mix Arabic, French, and African languages, unlike the children from the 80s who speak 100 times better
Sega fan 4 life here!! My whole family had Genesis, and 3 months ago I got Dream Cast with Crazy Taxi, controller and memory stick for 70 bucks. My brother is donating his old games to me, well except House of the Dead, he ain't parting with that game.
***** Sega wasn't hot in 1990, they didn't even get decent market share until Sonic debuted in 1991. In 1990, Nintendo cleaned house with Super Mario Brothers 3, Game Boy line and Nintendo Power all flying off shelves. The following year was a different story, Nintendo went from over 90% of the market in 1990 to about 50% of the market with Sega taking most of it.
I remember as a young teen going to the mall to kill a day's worth of potential boredom (the bowling alley and pool hall were not busy until night time). You had the top five singles to listen to before you buy at Camelot records, you had the food court, the arcade, and Christmas time always meant the Nintendo display set up at both Sears and Venture with Nintendos and the hottest games available. Of course the security guards ensured a strict time limit on play per kid. I bought an emulation station a year or two ago at Christmas for my family (for those few who may not know, it is a small computer about the size of a deck of cards that has tens of thousands of video games from gaming systems spanning the Gen x era (Commodore, Apple, Atari, Sega, Turbo Grafix, as well as popular arcade games from that tme era). My oldest was bored to tears, my other kids were mildly entertained. I was a six pack of Jolt cola, a greasy pizza, and a cassette tape of Appetite For Destruction from Christmas Break 1986. Watching this video was instant time warp. So simplistic compared to today. The things today's kids will never get to experience
I personally miss all the competition of the great console war of the 90s: snes vs genesis vs turbografx 16 vs Neo Geo vs atari jaguar vs panasonic 3DO vs Philips CD-i
Don't know why they added Michael Jackson to the opening roll that credits all of Nintendos power... Moonwalker was a Sega release. Regardless the game was a blast to play. #DancingZombieDogs 💃
I just finished Console Wars. It was a really interesting look into the early 90s and the battle between Sega and Nintendo and all the people behind the marketing and the game companies. Really interesting read and brought back a lot of memories and gave a lot of context to games I remember playing and pining over as a kid.
I like how Howard Philips described Nintendo's philosophy of it being about the games,not just hardware alone. I think Nintendo still sticks to that in today's modern console clash. Also,$100 for a Nintendo and $200 for a Genesis? Those were the days. Now a PS5 or series x breaks the bank at $500 a piece,never mind the cost of games. I like looking back at these old days of gaming,thanks for the video,well done.
Man to think this is over 30 years ago is wild. I wonder if any of these people knew just how insane it would become so fast. We'll be able to simulate physically being inside video games in the next 30 years at the rate we're going.
A very interesting news special about a game system that was about to come out soon after I was born, and that I ended up playing very frequently throughout my childhood.
Yet Nintendo were still doing fine for 100 years before they even got into the gaming industry and have never been on their last legs. 90's gaming journalists ¬_¬
@@XanderCrease Remember, when the say "Nintendo" they're actually talking about the NES, which was very much on its last legs in 1990. This was the time when "NES" and "Nintendo" were interchangeable
'Ninendo's on it's last legs!' ...Oddly enough, they're still around almost 30 years later making a mint along with new Hardware and Software. And Sega? Well...'Genesis Does...' games on Nintendo systems now lol
Sega had too much ego. Nintendo will be around for ever, they may not have the power to match Xbox and Playstation, but they offer entertainment, and will continue to do it for centuries to come.
@@josephkreifelsii6596 Very true, in addition to the fact that Nintendo was & still is 'in the black'/made a profit off of every system they've ever sold (with the possible exception of the Virtual Boy) and of course their more-often-than-not top-notch first-party software will ensure that they as a company will be around for a long time.
nah about 70 for console and two controllers w/ mario duck hunt. If you have one in the box in perfect condition you could maybe get 120 for it. Still too many around for them to be incredibly rare although they are becoming harder to find. I'm probably going to buy one I saw on craigslist for 85 and that comes w/system mario duck hunt and zelda
Whatever the numbers, the TG16 was a very capable system. I, personally, am a Nintendo fanboy, but I got a TG16 as they were going on clearance. It came with Keith Courage and Power golf. It was interesting and different, but ultimately it sat in a closet for a couple decades. Pulled it back out a few years ago and got some proper games, and it's really been a blast. I can see how it was a hit in Japan, especially considering the fact that they got a much bigger/better library of releases. Too bad TG16 prices are so sky high now.
ShmupShmupPewPew haha I came back to watch this video and saw your response. I actually got a turbo grafx 16 also. Only game I own for it is Keith courage lol
Tom Kalinske really knew his stuff. He's the reason the Sega Genesis succeeded in the US. Heck, this was his first year with Sega and he already set the standard high! Lowering the price of the console and picking Sonic The Hedgehog as the pack in title... God dang genius!
Tom is correct when he says better graphics Nintendo doesn’t think of better graphics Sega was the like the Xbox most powerful console every time Nintendo caught up sega would make another console step ahead of Nintendo 32 bit 32 x after Nintendo got their Super Nintendo caught up with 16 bit even the sega cd was amazing the games looked so real
While Nintendo has always prioritised gameplay over graphics, they raised the bar graphically with SNES, SuperFX, Donkey Kong Country, and then delayed the Nintendo 64 - skipping 32bit tech (let's ignore the Virtual Boy for now) and going straight to 64-bit. It wasn't until the Wii that they dropped out of the graphics arms race, and focused on novelties (motion controls with Wii, touch screens with DS, 3D displays with 3DS, tablet form factor with Wii U, and flexible Home Console or Portable forms with Switch).
ajmetz82 the Nintendo 64 wasn’t better the Dreamcast it never released any arcade games like marvel vs capcom it was all about Mario and Zelda games Nintendo doesn’t think of releasing arcade games to home consoles Sony and Sega and Xbox releases the arcades Nintendo was boring just like today which console isn’t giving achievements or trophies it’s Nintendo who should of ben doing it when the Wii was released in 2006 then no achievements on Wii U and still no achievements on Nintendo Switch plus Nintendo Switch is very weak it can’t play WWE 2k18 so they stopped making WW2k 19 and 20 Nintendo is boring Sega is way much better without sega there is no sonic Tom is a smart man he would of giving Sega consoles achievements the best graphics more powerful then Nintendo
@@Suhadisgood I never said it was better than the Dreamcast. N64 was released in the UK in 1997, and Dreamcast didn't arrive until 1999. N64 was 64-bit, Dreamcast was next generation 128-bit. N64 was in the PSOne/Saturn/N64 console wars. Dreamcast was in the Dreamcast/PS2/GameCube/Xbox era, although Sega killed it themselves just as PS2 launched, and before Gamecube or Xbox were even out, to become a software company and release for DC, PS2, GC and Xbox, etc.
My point was Nintendo used to be in the graphics race. True, they're not now. With the SNES and N64, they had the most powerful consoles with the best graphics, of their respective console generations. So they did used to lead in graphics too at one point.
I agree Sega was better at Arcade games. I bought a Saturn months after the N64 launch, because I found Nintendo's cartridges too expensive at retail and enjoyed the cheap yet excellent Saturn games going in shop bargain bins at the time. Following Saturn also got me hyped for the impending Dreamcast - and I got that too at launch.
Lol, guys. Nintendo has a lot of money in the bank, they are no where near in any financial problem. Sony as a whole company has problems only Playstation brand keeps them afloat.
Jessie Edsell Well when the Super Nintendo comes out next year Nintendo will gain more profits. I mean look at Japan. Also, Sony doesn't even have a system out yet.
Jessie Edsell Ah the new year! I can't wait to finally get my hands on a Super Mario world. I think Sony is going to do something with Nintendo soon though. That's gonna be badd ass!
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"Nintendo's on its last legs!"
Funny how I hear that even today.
Right, but back then, they weren't trying to sell you a heap of cardboard for $70 and telling you to imagine the fun...... "It's always about the games" he said......
it is, nintendo isn't shit compared to playstation or even the lackluster xbox, it's a joke, it had it's day in the sun from 87-90, and once more for a brief period of time when the 64 came out, but then sony hammered in the final nails of that even, so it is funny, because it's a brand that struggles to maintain when it clearly doesn't have the firepower to compete, the people who buy nintendo today are geeks or generational adults that are living off the original nintendo nostalgia of the 80's
It is Nintendo isn’t a dominant force anymore and sucks
@david mcintire lol ur smoking some good crack xbox games arent shit compared to sonys
JHOT247 no
Those kids gave pretty good descriptions of why playing video games is so great.
Are you joking? They sounded lobotomized. I could have done a much better job in 1990 at the age of 7.
I would have been Ian. Actually controlling what is on the screen rather than watching it was always what I found the most fascinating.
That's why the video game genre will never die.
They did an amazing job.
Instead of what we hear now. “I do it for my community. My sponsors. My likes and subs and my patreons”.
I love seeing vintage stuff like this. It's like looking in a time machine
Still Dreaming Same here. As much as I like modern look backs/reviews on older games and hardware, I enjoy stuff from that era even more (especially with predictions that end up being totally wrong like Nintendo being on its “last legs”).
Are you like 9? This was only 25 years ago.
@@liammay7756 and what are you? 600? Two-and-a-half decades is a substantial timeframe.
What are you talking about? I've chosen to live the rest of my life in the year 1989.
Yeah it’s awesome. Really brings back good memories.
Mom shocked my brother and I with a Sega Genesis at Christmas in 1990 (or thereabouts). One of the best Christmas. Love her.
What a great Mom you have!!
OasisEnLaLunna you must have gotten so many friends when sonic came out
Wow! =). Your parents were the best! Mine just bought me a NES the moment the SNES came out, and I had to sit out the entire 16bit war. Waaaa!
R.I.P
@@ajmetz82 In Poland 8-bit retro mania start since 1991-92. :D
"Sega's Genesis is Nintendo's nemesis" - brilliant line.
I was half expecting a 23-year younger Michael Pachter to appear telling us how Nintendo would never survive that holiday season.
1991 was the year of the Nintendo vs sega war
Orlando Steward they should really call it the Sonic and Mario war, because in 1991 after Sega released Sonic, the battle was on for king supreme, and through 1992 SEGA had the majority of the market, it was in 1993 that Nintendo finally clawed it back, but the Genesis was being miss-managed by Sega with that stupid 32-X, the CD, Saturn right around the corner, etc, etc.
Jude Law I agree with everything you just Sega fucked up big time if they had managed the Genesis right they would of the war if they didn't take there eye off the ball
Lol - regarding your Michael Pachter expectations, ^_^.
Fucking Pachter, where is he since GameTrailers died?
Just wow. The kid at 1:41 is me. Josh.
I haven't seen this special for a good decade and more.
I remember when the Good Morning America crew came to over too, they were pretty nice if I remember. I also remember all of us being so excited to show off our "skills" in mario, as if they would actually be impressed. Ah man, now I'm all nostalgic.
Keep playing!
Still playin ' 💪
Weird, 14 years old video randomly pops up on my feed, showing a 10 years old comment at the top, with 3 replies all within 24 hours. UA-cam, you crazy? 😂But it's awesome to see these, such nostalgia (although I am a bit younger, was born in the 90 and Super Nintendo was my first console, but still).
I’ve been playing games since I was 8. I’m 40
How old are you now lol
@@Msfili Probably early 40s or late 30s with kids
those kids are nearly 40 now.
Those kids are probably looking for a NES/SNES or Genesis right now.
@wayne finch what who are you
Some are probably still doing the same thing.
Yup I would be one of em...roll on ps5
And we r still the best gamers out there!!!
I like how the little kids had the "Nintendo Player" label under them.
Oh, 1990, you were so quaint!
***** geez, did you not play games in 1990? NEC (TurboGrafx 16) was around, Atari (7800) was around, Sega (Genesis) was around, and Nintendo (NES) was around. If you have Nintendo with roughly 90%, that means Sega couldn't have had 10%, because that would leave NEC and Atari at 0%, which they weren't because they both sold games in 1990.
*****
True story.
All video games were referred to by most people as "Nintendo"
didn't matter what system.
Also, if you recall, a lot of older people referred to the games as "Nintendo tapes" ;D
johnhasaguitar
i been playin forever and call everything nintendo.
most people trip out or give me shit.
while i do own an original nintendo, i play games like madden on playstation.
and i call the remote a paddle.
Revelation6_7-8 My grandma calls every game system a "nintendo."
And before the mid to late 80's, grandmas called them all Atari.
"but will it be its last" - 25 years later, people are saying the same thing.
+George C ? Why what happened in 2005?
+Mikee Remastered Typo >.
George C I knew. But someone was gonna say it. So I thought. Why not I be the one who says something twatty. :P
hehe, thanks for pointing it out!
+George C I thought the exact same thing the moment it came out of that dude's mouth.
Why do the kids in these old videos come out as more intelligent than the grown-ups?
umeng2002 because the generation today is bullshit
The Dude That Loves Music Oh shut up. That’s literally telling the world to “go fuck itself”
I like how the man's answer had jack shit to do with the OPs question. It's like if someone asked me "Do I make a left here to go to the local fair or should I keep going straight?" and I replied with "FUCK TRUMP!!!"
Really? They sounded like they were all dropped on their heads as babies.
Because none of the grown ups in this production had ever played a videogame [with the exception of the interviewed gaming executives]. This is why Nintendo had to use the movie metaphor. It was still the age when TV people didn't get or understand videogames. Some of this stupidity continues to this day. Which is why I watch videogame stuff on UA-cam, and not on my TV downstairs.
I’m Tom Holtzer (the actual spelling is Holzer) in this video. Can’t believe this was over 30 years ago! It’s great to revisit this wonderful snippet in time. Thanks for posting this and for being back good memories.
You were the only intelligent person in that video. Can't believe how dumb those analysts were with the information they had. Good times!;😂
“It’s not the hardware it’s the GAMES that matter” are you listening Microsoft???
Both matter
@@user-cr3db7cb8n *no*
@@yololthepikminenjoyer yes
Mark Can id rather play a good game with ps2 graphics than play a bad game with ray tracing
That explains why the Nintendo switch is not as powerful as other 8th gen consoles like the ps4 and xbox one.
I love how they thought Sega would outlast Nintendo.
Yeah... About that...
yeah they thought they being hip and cool would win over the crowds.
LIke the nintendo rep said, its about the games not how flashy the console claims to be. too bad they cant follow their own example today.
no no, their games are shit. So their flashy consoles (controllers that have motion sensors, ridiculous controller layouts, strangely odd console s design) is everything Nintendo wasnt.
Holret get your self a switch and shut up ;)
The thing is, Sega of America knew how to do good marketing and were actually dethroning Nintendo, with good games to boot, but Sega of Japan and their envy-fueled directors just couldn't handle that the West was being better than them and put everything to lose with their close-mindedness. They still can do good games, though.
@@Phasma_Tacitus Sonic franchise
These kids know what videogames are really about. Wish there were more people like that today.
+John O I was going to say the exact same thing. I love how the kids spoke about their gaming experiences. Proud to have lived that. NES memories for life!
i wish there was more games like this again.
+unclebugspayton scratch.mit.edu
guns - YES!!!
I'm 14 years old and I have a decent NES, SNES, and Genesis game collection. I use a Retro Bit Duo to play all of the games though.
"It's games. It's always games."
Boom. The reason that, despite haters, Nintendo is still around and will always be.
Genius comment of the day!
I agree with you long live nintendo!
#NINTENDOFOREVER
Ashitaka1110 Sony and nintendo go games first
*cough cough* Steam *cough cough*
I was here in 2020 wishing i could travel back 30 years. I so miss the 90's.
What that guy said about its all about the games and not the graphics gave me chills
its still true till today.
That guy obviously knew what he was talking about, I felt like he was a future-man.
BlueRice It SHOULD be true. But most people nowadays buy games for graphics. If the game looks like crap, a lot of people won't buy it, even if it's good. Most companies do the same thing. make sure the graphics are good before making sure the actual game is good.
txfnero
i do agree. the topic is very subjective.
You'll never understand where we are or where we are going unless you understand where we came from.
That applies to pretty much everything.
"Will parents be willing to shell out the money.."
Dude just said that over 40% of the market was adults. That's nearly half the market. Oy.
Given that this aired a week before Christmas, I'm sure they figured that a lot of parents were buying games for their kids as gifts. There are probably also some adults gifting games to other adults as well as adults buying games for themselves, but I have a feeling a majority of games that were bought around that time were going to kids as gifts.
That and people were probably remembering the crash of '82 - were parents really going to splash out c. $40 per game based on how well Atari had done with "ET"? I must admit, even UK parents were very reluctant to buy multiple games for one system (based on my own straw-poll research). In 1991, games cost around £30 and it was really cost-prohibitive to have a videogame habit that couldn't be fed by swapping carts with your friends.
Vieweracc99 Were you even alive in 1982? What crash of '82? They didn't even have any discounts or lack of games in 1982, 1983 was a consumer's dream with tons of games, and hardware in stores, but in 1984 the market was dead, I couldn't find any new games in stores, most had them in discount bins, so after school I used to rummage through them only to find Othello and other crap games no one wanted. It "crashed" in 1984 despite what you may read on "Wrongipedia", I know I EXPERIENCED IT!
Jude Law I'm talking about the fact that Atari rushed out ET, and the fallout afterwards (Remember the Alamagordo!) Thanks for thinking I'm younger than I am...how charming!
Not all adult gamers are able to invest that much of money, even if they wanted.
Kids these days....they don't know the horrors of the Great War of the 90s. Those of us who live through it we still wake up screaming....I still remember the battle of the Mortal Kombats 20,000 SNES and Genesis Gamers went over the top in only 10 SNES gamers and 5 Genesis Gamers returned...the pizza boxes, the wasted mt. dew, the broken catridges and melted consoles...the horror, the horror
Wow, what a war
blisters on your thumbs, these kids with their analog stick controllers. weak weak weak generation
im a survivor of the great pog war of the 90's many kids wound up fighting each other every lunch time till they got banned
+snakes3425 No, it was pretty simple. Sega released the Genesis in the US about two years before the SNES and it was apparent right from the start how much more advanced the Genesis was over the NES. I still think the Genesis beats the SNES for overall total great games, but SNES had their gems too. Super Mario Kart is the best 16 bit racing game, even better than MarioKart64. Mortal Kombat was better on Genesis, but MK2 was far superior on SNES. Phantasy Star II is superior to A Link to the Past(I know I'll get some flak for that one).
There,there,i'm sure it wasn't THAT bad...
was it?
"This might be Nintendo's last Xmas..." Funny story about that...
Meanwhile, Reggie's body is getting ready.
Damn
Spending on games
Entire industry XMAS 1990: $150 MILLION
GTA V Production : Over half a billion.
2:50
Nintendo hasn't changed at all. And I'm glad they didn't!
+BlueBlur They did change though... they stepped away from third party support after the SNES. Which in turn, means far less games.
+Forever Negative Mainly this is over them not being a dictator or being able to be one anymore.
Their strength already was and always will be their unmatched first party IPs.
Always loved this video as it's quite wholesome, the kids talking why they love the games, the businessman showing what's in store for the future, and to make it better, the news reporter talking about it in a natural manner, without mockery or showing that she has no idea of what she's talking about
Maybe she didn't, but still having a professional stance
Finally found someone from the same year lol ! But still in the newest here but the oldest when it comes to video games oh yeah
A nintendo Game master? Why couldn't I have this as a job?
Sagemaster00 Cause your username is too close to Sega master
ShaSt One
I would so be a Sega master too.
Cause Reggie F. put in for it.
@Elephant why didn't you try?game tester or designer many jobs in games
@@paulsmith9192 i mean This was 4 years before I was born lol to get that title, but game tester, I wouldnt mind.
'when I do get a new game it's fun to play it a lot, because you get to explore new places you've never been before'.
Well said, 1990's kid, well said.
18 years later and Howard Phillips is still right. It's always been about the games. But I'm glad to see Tom Kalinske because without him, Sega never would have made it in America.
While everyone fighting on Nintendo and Sega in 1990, im sure none of them never realize their worst nightmare is yet to come..... Playstation....
SNES > PSX & PS2
Phvrvoh Phonk PSX isn't the original Playstation. PSX only came out in Japan and it was basically a PS2 with a built in HDD. Search Gamester81 PSX on UA-cam.
Zarkiv Oh, I thought PSX was the original and then PSone was the mini white version that came out later.
Zarkiv psx was the internal/industry name for the original playstation, although sony later released the ps2/tv recording device branded "psx"
Zarkiv
PSX is the original Playstation. That was it's the industry used for Playstation for years before Sony released the PSX (which was a glorified PS2 and DVR) in Japan back in 2004.
Go learn your video game facts, since you are obviously failing video games 101.
I bet those same analysts no longer have jobs lol.
im sure they retired to some island a year later anyway
Oh no theyre predicting elections and outcomes of corporations they get payed to create sensationalism
This was nearly 30 years ago so then being in retirement is not far fetched.
No they still have jobs, at Burger King sweeping the floor.
2:53 this guy fucking gets it, it has always been about THE GAMES!
Even today, how much this remains true. I don't give a flying fuck if a PS4 or X1 can play movies, browse the internet, play football, wash my dishes and maw my lawn, if good games aren't there then I won't buy a system.
Its funny how these companies seem to strive for other markets and audiences with each new console and yet they forget what it has always been about, the Gamers and their Games.
But Sony is concentrating on the games. They just gave us inFamous Second Son, MGS V Ground Zeroes is out, Mercenary Kings.
Xbox 1 is more about the tv crap than anything else.
Avelier Plays nice clock tower avatar
Well said!
Uh yes. Most dumbest comment known to man.
I wish I could go back in time and show them Super Mario Galaxy, or GTA 5... Their heads would explode
They would say GTA 5 was a movie not a game
Bob Smith just show them sonic generation when sonic 1 came out. holy sheeeeeeet
Jian Costa I'd like to show them Rouge the Bat so they could begin wondering which one of them will turn out to be the sicko who put a pair of breasts on a bat. XD
no just show amy from sonic boom to people after they beat sonic cd
I'd go back in time and bring with my lottery numbers and mind blow myself.
war, war never changes
stop hogging the mirror
War has _changed_
clapthony claptano Does anyone get that this is a Star Wars reference, lol.
I don't know if I should get a Sega Genesis or wait for the Super Nintendo to arrive.
:)
*btw I can't believe I actually got to see Tom Kalinski and he looks focused, after reading Console Wars I have huge respect for the guy.
Sega was a real fighter.
"I don't know if I should get a Sega Genesis or wait for the Super Nintendo to arrive. :)"
LOL You're 25 years too late, dude. :P
jarrah can't see sarcasm
raccoon681 And apparently, you can't see my joking.
ether way i bought both of them so win win
or that new fond angle virtual boy
I hear 3d is the future
Incredible level of nostalgia. A video that came out 14 years ago showcasing a 1990s video.
Stupendous~
I was one of those kids playing nes back in the day. I remember how awesome the Super Nintendo was when it came out. The good days🙂
"President, Sega Genesis" public perception of the industry has changed so much
These days games aren't superhits unless their body counts surpase most major wars
or if your nintendo and can make good games with out haveing to go to guns and zombies
snakes3425 what do you mean?
I don't remember playing a game with a body counter.
"That you cant do in real life" kid wait till you see gta 3
gta 5
ghost830 GTA 6
ghost830 I was about that kids age and gta 3 did blow my mind. gta 2 got me hooked but seeing it in 3d was crazy
ghost830 running from the cops, murder, drugs...and HOOKERS!
Nope, wait till you see Super Mario Odyssey!
1990: The Genesis is 16-bit, is it the end of Nintendo?
1996: The Nintendo 64 uses cartridges, is it the end of Nintendo?
2001: The GameCube is too kiddy, is it the end of Nintendo?
2006: The Wii is too gimmicky, is it the end of Nintendo?
2013: The Wii U is barely selling at all, is it the end of Nintendo?
Noticing a trend? Reply to me if you do.
Yep
Nintendo lost me during the Gamecube - Wii production runs because yes they were too kiddy and gimmicky. The Wii U has been a nice turnaround so far!
they never regained the 90% market share they once had, even Wii only managed about 60% at its peak, which is SNES level, not NES level dominance.
2017: The Switch is hard to buy. Is this the end of Nintendo?
Jude Law 90% was a high mark that no company will ever reproduce.
"it's all about the games" nintendo's mindset from day one
It's interesting that video games, were merely considered to be toys. They weren't prepared for what is out now.
To be fair, they _were_ just electronic toys. Especially back then before more narrative focused games became the norm; it was just something to play with, not something that had any deeper artistic value
@@ShaunDreclin tbh I think most modern narrative based games are really boring. I don’t feel like I’m playing a game half the time I feel like I’m watching a movie. I just want to enjoy the gameplay and then here comes a cutscene then another cutscene then another cutscene. I hate that, I much rather prefer the pick up and play style of retro games.
Well I started playing Video Games at the age of 3 in 1988, my parents had an Atari 2600. In 1990 I got my Nintendo Entertainment System for Christmas. Now I'm 28 years old, and i still play all my Nintendo games.
It's funny just how uptight Tom Kalinske is compared to the childlike behavior of Howard Phillips. Howie is even wearing a bow tie for crying out loud. XD
I remember my stepdad taking me to mall and made me wait in the car for an hour. I had no idea why. He comes strolling out with a clear GameBoy playing Tetris. I never wanted one or even knew what it was. He just wanted it for himself.
😂😂
Bruh 😂
"Sega's Genesis is Nintendo's nemesis."
So much better than doing what Nintendon't
It's mind blowing to me to think that there are kids growing up today only knowing what the current generations of systems can do as video games and not experiencing the magic of the 16-bit era. Makes me feel old at 21...
How is that mind blowing? Do you not realize that not everyone is born during the same time period? Think about how many generations were born before you, now think about how many will be born after you. You just so happened to be born during a time period of retro games. That doesn’t make you special.
Damn you, history! Always repeating yourself.
"Will it be its (Nintendo) last?" HAHAHAHA...that's rich!
*****
They only demolished the Master System by using illegal business practices which was bullying stores into not selling Master System, locking 3rd parties to contracts saying they can only make games for the NES. Yeah, real fair competition buddy.
As for demolishing the competition, Sony would be the true victor.
PS1 sold over 100 million consoles
PS2 sold over 155 million consoles
Sony did what Nintendo couldn't with their previous systems, the only reason why the Wii did so well was because of the gimmick because once that gimmick dried up so did Nintendo again.
@@LUCKO2022 ok I know this is a late comment but Nintendo didn't use Illigal practices and they had 3rd party companies sign contracts in order to avoid another market crash
I was 4 years old when this aired.
I was 9 when we shot it 😊
@@thomasholzer8881 omg thats amazing, I love videos like this. It's like hopping into a time machine.
born in 92 and missed the experience of early Nintendo consoles. my first ever console was the ps4 and I had to pay for it myself. 😞
I wish I was a Child for the 80s/90s. Being able to experience gaming back when you had to go to arcades to play your games would be so cool. Playing through the classics back when they were still new. Arcades also seem like such a fun environment/social space. Being able to experience the rise of consoles and home gaming would also be great, especially in an economy in which the video game market wasn't littered with copycats and killfests.
It was AWESOME 👊
"First and foremost, it's games."
I like how even 23 years later, they haven't changed their idealistic motto about putting fun before toting their hardware.
3:43 "really popular ones like this play action football can cost $50" lol
Killer app! :’D
thanks for sharing Grooveraider, The History of Sega with Ken Horowitz - The Retro Hour EP131 brought me here.
Watching this video today is a powerful lesson about the tremendous gap between hindsight and how things feel in the moment.
50 to 70 bux some of those games still cost that much just for the dam cartridge
I remember paying $70 for "Mortal Kombat II" back in 1994 on Genesis.
Yep, everyone who still remembers Nintendo and how great it was recalls the 90's as the time of its demise! Never would we see another Mario game (he does appear in Sonic Runners 8 but it's just not the same). Nowadays it's Sega this and Sega that - almost nobody even recollects poor Nintendo.
I love watching these news programs as an adult and seeing the adults not understand video games.
The 80s really started the video game craze. The 70s was treated as a fad. Parents were still in the same mindset that it was a toy. The 90s would change that with more adult stuff though.
my god as a french 01:23 I am totally amazed to hear the children from the 80s, how clearly they speak American English. I mean, as a French person, I can understand every word because they articulate so well, compared to today's kids where I don't understand at all what they're talking about. They eat up words, use slang that I have no explanation for, not even on the internet. It's incredible! Know that we have the same phenomenon in France with our language; we no longer understand today's youth as they mix Arabic, French, and African languages, unlike the children from the 80s who speak 100 times better
It was SUCH A COMPETITIVE TIME
Sega fan 4 life here!! My whole family had Genesis, and 3 months ago I got Dream Cast with Crazy Taxi, controller and memory stick for 70 bucks. My brother is donating his old games to me, well except House of the Dead, he ain't parting with that game.
***** Sega wasn't hot in 1990, they didn't even get decent market share until Sonic debuted in 1991. In 1990, Nintendo cleaned house with Super Mario Brothers 3, Game Boy line and Nintendo Power all flying off shelves. The following year was a different story, Nintendo went from over 90% of the market in 1990 to about 50% of the market with Sega taking most of it.
Back when parents where looking at video games as investments. Rofl
They forgot.. "And you could get fired if you don't stop playing on the job" ^^
I remember as a young teen going to the mall to kill a day's worth of potential boredom (the bowling alley and pool hall were not busy until night time). You had the top five singles to listen to before you buy at Camelot records, you had the food court, the arcade, and Christmas time always meant the Nintendo display set up at both Sears and Venture with Nintendos and the hottest games available. Of course the security guards ensured a strict time limit on play per kid.
I bought an emulation station a year or two ago at Christmas for my family (for those few who may not know, it is a small computer about the size of a deck of cards that has tens of thousands of video games from gaming systems spanning the Gen x era (Commodore, Apple, Atari, Sega, Turbo Grafix, as well as popular arcade games from that tme era). My oldest was bored to tears, my other kids were mildly entertained. I was a six pack of Jolt cola, a greasy pizza, and a cassette tape of Appetite For Destruction from Christmas Break 1986.
Watching this video was instant time warp. So simplistic compared to today. The things today's kids will never get to experience
Also, a nice shout-out to the Game Boy, which was THE big thing during the 1990 holiday season.
I personally miss all the competition of the great console war of the 90s: snes vs genesis vs turbografx 16 vs Neo Geo vs atari jaguar vs panasonic 3DO vs Philips CD-i
illuminatioracle or SNES vs the wannabes
do NOT mention the CD-I as a "games system"
Don't know why they added Michael Jackson to the opening roll that credits all of Nintendos power... Moonwalker was a Sega release. Regardless the game was a blast to play. #DancingZombieDogs 💃
Damn I miss these days!!
I just finished Console Wars. It was a really interesting look into the early 90s and the battle between Sega and Nintendo and all the people behind the marketing and the game companies. Really interesting read and brought back a lot of memories and gave a lot of context to games I remember playing and pining over as a kid.
I like how Howard Philips described Nintendo's philosophy of it being about the games,not just hardware alone. I think Nintendo still sticks to that in today's modern console clash. Also,$100 for a Nintendo and $200 for a Genesis? Those were the days. Now a PS5 or series x breaks the bank at $500 a piece,never mind the cost of games. I like looking back at these old days of gaming,thanks for the video,well done.
$200 from 1990 adjusted for inflation would be about $450 today.
2:34 16-bit systems, serious business.
"Is it Nintendo's LAST Christmas"?!?!?!
Nope :)
I wish below my name read "Nintendo Player" like these kids.
this video was nostalgic when it was uploaded and now it's 14 years later which makes the upload itself nostalgic
Man to think this is over 30 years ago is wild. I wonder if any of these people knew just how insane it would become so fast.
We'll be able to simulate physically being inside video games in the next 30 years at the rate we're going.
Interesting how often the call video games “toys” back then
@Tim Schecher 1984.
we where those damn kids....wow, when did i turn 30??....
There were gamers from the previous console generation like the Atari 2600.
Mark from Classic Game Room for instands is one.
2:52 - 3:02 that's to you Xbox.
A very interesting news special about a game system that was about to come out soon after I was born, and that I ended up playing very frequently throughout my childhood.
People been saying "Nintendo is on it's last leg" since the 90's.
Yet Nintendo were still doing fine for 100 years before they even got into the gaming industry and have never been on their last legs. 90's gaming journalists ¬_¬
The news report is correct though. Nintendo lost its market dominance in 1991
@@st1ka "On their last legs" implies close to going out of business. Not just slipping to second place.
@@XanderCrease Remember, when the say "Nintendo" they're actually talking about the NES, which was very much on its last legs in 1990.
This was the time when "NES" and "Nintendo" were interchangeable
DAMN games used to be cheap! Nintendo was only 100 bucks back then?! Never realized it.
Dollars went farther XD
Inflation dumbass
'Ninendo's on it's last legs!'
...Oddly enough, they're still around almost 30 years later making a mint along with new Hardware and Software. And Sega? Well...'Genesis Does...' games on Nintendo systems now lol
Sega had too much ego. Nintendo will be around for ever, they may not have the power to match Xbox and Playstation, but they offer entertainment, and will continue to do it for centuries to come.
@@josephkreifelsii6596 Very true, in addition to the fact that Nintendo was & still is 'in the black'/made a profit off of every system they've ever sold (with the possible exception of the Virtual Boy) and of course their more-often-than-not top-notch first-party software will ensure that they as a company will be around for a long time.
100$ for a brand new Nes in 1990. Wonder how much it'd be worth today in mint condition? $500?
nah about 70 for console and two controllers w/ mario duck hunt. If you have one in the box in perfect condition you could maybe get 120 for it. Still too many around for them to be incredibly rare although they are becoming harder to find. I'm probably going to buy one I saw on craigslist for 85 and that comes w/system mario duck hunt and zelda
Wow would of thought it'd be more. Still sweet to own a mint one though.
***** $179.59 Counting inflation, also it was near the end, as the SNES came out the next year.
***** 500? Nah!! You could time travel 25 years back with PS4 and that's what GameStop would offer...(✿◠‿◠)
I got my nes 30 dollars with everything and Super Mario Bros.3 for 20 dollars because it was in mint condition.
Dang these kids were more calm and not cringy like now
Much appreciated. We did our best in this segment.
"It's no longer a boy toy, its a form of entertainment"
...and thus the first fanboy was born
0:40 hmmm its 2014 nintendo still is around and dominate for years
Nintendo IS around lol but not dominate. That would go to Sony...
Daniel Medina
AHAHHAHAHAHA LOL nice one
Well, it IS kinda true.
SporeSpam That, we can't deny lol.
Is in it funny how this comment sounds outdated
Even as a tiny kid I never considered my Genesis a toy. It was its own thing.
Tom on that Tony Montana, good lord lol
Tom Kalinske, great to see you!
@Umar Tahir what's he doing now?wonder if he still plays
@@paulsmith9192 Well, I know for sure that he's probably not playing Sega... 😔 Maybe Nintendo though? 😅 Who knows?
Poor Sega.... Where are they now? Like that NEC reference. Shoulda called it a turbo grafx 16...which is also 8-bit
Whatever the numbers, the TG16 was a very capable system. I, personally, am a Nintendo fanboy, but I got a TG16 as they were going on clearance. It came with Keith Courage and Power golf. It was interesting and different, but ultimately it sat in a closet for a couple decades. Pulled it back out a few years ago and got some proper games, and it's really been a blast. I can see how it was a hit in Japan, especially considering the fact that they got a much bigger/better library of releases. Too bad TG16 prices are so sky high now.
ShmupShmupPewPew haha I came back to watch this video and saw your response. I actually got a turbo grafx 16 also. Only game I own for it is Keith courage lol
This toy analyst should be fired
Yeah that Nintendo thing was just a fad.
So was *S E G A*
All those kids would be around 40 or so now. Also, Tom Kalinske was a genius for Sega.
Yep! You’re right. I’m 42 now. It was a fun segment to be a part of.
You know it's quality entertainment when the Video is Square.... Or I'm just OLD
Tom Kalinske really knew his stuff. He's the reason the Sega Genesis succeeded in the US. Heck, this was his first year with Sega and he already set the standard high! Lowering the price of the console and picking Sonic The Hedgehog as the pack in title... God dang genius!
Nah Tom didn’t know jack
That went genius. Look at Nintendo and you’ll see true genius
Wii U didn’t suck dumbass Sega fanboy
Aladdin didn’t sell like hot cakes dumvass
Tom is correct when he says better graphics Nintendo doesn’t think of better graphics Sega was the like the Xbox most powerful console every time Nintendo caught up sega would make another console step ahead of Nintendo 32 bit 32 x after Nintendo got their Super Nintendo caught up with 16 bit even the sega cd was amazing the games looked so real
While Nintendo has always prioritised gameplay over graphics, they raised the bar graphically with SNES, SuperFX, Donkey Kong Country, and then delayed the Nintendo 64 - skipping 32bit tech (let's ignore the Virtual Boy for now) and going straight to 64-bit. It wasn't until the Wii that they dropped out of the graphics arms race, and focused on novelties (motion controls with Wii, touch screens with DS, 3D displays with 3DS, tablet form factor with Wii U, and flexible Home Console or Portable forms with Switch).
ajmetz82 the Nintendo 64 wasn’t better the Dreamcast it never released any arcade games like marvel vs capcom it was all about Mario and Zelda games Nintendo doesn’t think of releasing arcade games to home consoles Sony and Sega and Xbox releases the arcades Nintendo was boring just like today which console isn’t giving achievements or trophies it’s Nintendo who should of ben doing it when the Wii was released in 2006 then no achievements on Wii U and still no achievements on Nintendo Switch plus Nintendo Switch is very weak it can’t play WWE 2k18 so they stopped making WW2k 19 and 20 Nintendo is boring Sega is way much better without sega there is no sonic Tom is a smart man he would of giving Sega consoles achievements the best graphics more powerful then Nintendo
@@Suhadisgood I never said it was better than the Dreamcast. N64 was released in the UK in 1997, and Dreamcast didn't arrive until 1999. N64 was 64-bit, Dreamcast was next generation 128-bit. N64 was in the PSOne/Saturn/N64 console wars. Dreamcast was in the Dreamcast/PS2/GameCube/Xbox era, although Sega killed it themselves just as PS2 launched, and before Gamecube or Xbox were even out, to become a software company and release for DC, PS2, GC and Xbox, etc.
My point was Nintendo used to be in the graphics race. True, they're not now. With the SNES and N64, they had the most powerful consoles with the best graphics, of their respective console generations. So they did used to lead in graphics too at one point.
I agree Sega was better at Arcade games. I bought a Saturn months after the N64 launch, because I found Nintendo's cartridges too expensive at retail and enjoyed the cheap yet excellent Saturn games going in shop bargain bins at the time. Following Saturn also got me hyped for the impending Dreamcast - and I got that too at launch.
Lol, guys. Nintendo has a lot of money in the bank, they are no where near in any financial problem. Sony as a whole company has problems only Playstation brand keeps them afloat.
ThePrinceoftheAir Ahem, www.wsj.com/articles/nintendo-swings-to-net-loss-1406706326
Jessie Edsell Well when the Super Nintendo comes out next year Nintendo will gain more profits. I mean look at Japan. Also, Sony doesn't even have a system out yet.
DaNileChannel You do realize it's not 1990 anymore right?
Jessie Edsell Ah the new year! I can't wait to finally get my hands on a Super Mario world. I think Sony is going to do something with Nintendo soon though. That's gonna be badd ass!
DaNileChannel You want to buy some pot?
Those kids nailed what makes video games good.
@1:16, the boy in the red fit by today's standards is fly as hell
That is my buddy Rett. I’m the kid in the green sweatshirt.