Homelander. Kills. Everyone. Therapist Analysis - The Boys Season 4 Episode 4

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    Psychotherapist Georgia Dow dives into the complex psyche of Homelander from The Boys. She examines how his insatiable need for love and adoration leads him to lose his humanity, unraveling the psychological battles that define his character. Explore the depths of Homelander's mind and understand the cost of his relentless pursuit of validation in this compelling analysis.
    Here are some resources for individuals dealing with trauma or abuse:
    United States
    National Domestic Violence Hotline: 1-800-799-7233 (SAFE)
    Website: thehotline.org
    National Sexual Assault Hotline (RAINN): 1-800-656-4673 (HOPE)
    Website: rainn.org
    National Child Abuse Hotline: 1-800-422-4453 (4.A.CHILD)
    Website: childhelp.org
    SAMHSA’s National Helpline (Substance Abuse and Mental Health Services Administration): 1-800-662-4357 (HELP)
    Website: samhsa.gov/find-help/national-helpline
    Canada
    Kids Help Phone: 1-800-668-6868 or text CONNECT to 686868
    Website: kidshelpphone.ca
    Canadian Resource Centre for Victims of Crime: 1-877-232-2610
    Website: crcvc.ca
    Hope for Wellness Help Line (Indigenous): 1-855-242-3310
    Website: hopeforwellness.ca
    United Kingdom
    National Domestic Abuse Helpline: 0808 2000 247
    Website: nationaldahelpline.org.uk
    Samaritans: 116 123 (free from any phone)
    Website: samaritans.org
    Childline: 0800 1111
    Website: childline.org.uk
    Europe (General)
    116 123 (Emotional Support Helpline across Europe):
    Website: samaritans.org/how-we-can-help/contact-samaritan/helplines/europe
    Women Against Violence Europe (WAVE):
    Website: wave-network.org
    Victim Support Europe:
    Website: victimsupport.eu
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  • @GeorgiaDow
    @GeorgiaDow  3 місяці тому +77

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    • @Glitch_in_the_Matrix
      @Glitch_in_the_Matrix 3 місяці тому

      Dressing as a female Homelander makes 50% of us confused...strangely...

    • @ThePizzaMan-rr3ir
      @ThePizzaMan-rr3ir 2 місяці тому

      hello. by any chance, were you an elementary teacher?

    • @mjennyd_yt
      @mjennyd_yt Місяць тому

      Your analyses are so incredible, deep and empathetic. Would love to see your take on Sister Sage. :)

  • @thememeslinger7506
    @thememeslinger7506 3 місяці тому +1914

    Homelander: a therapists worst nightmare and a psychologists biggest paycheck

    • @Sunthaz
      @Sunthaz 3 місяці тому +183

      Until he inevitably lasers the psychologist.

    • @thememeslinger7506
      @thememeslinger7506 3 місяці тому +90

      @@Sunthaz fair point but the paycheck's still boutta be huge

    • @DanFarrell98
      @DanFarrell98 3 місяці тому

      I think his version of therapy is brutally murdering everyone who raised him

    • @Sunthaz
      @Sunthaz 3 місяці тому +43

      @@thememeslinger7506 Very true. Let us just take it as a reminder money is not everything. 😅

    • @yiosomething
      @yiosomething 3 місяці тому +36

      @@Sunthazhigh risk, high reward

  • @riarivera5995
    @riarivera5995 3 місяці тому +741

    I remember a superman comic where a kid started bullying clark and beat him up.
    His father ran out and chased the kid away and his dad asked Clark "are you okay son?"
    "Yeah, it didnt hurt."
    "I dont mean physically, are you okay?" And he kneels down and hugs him.
    This is the security that Homelander had never knows and its horribly sad. Because the episode with the farm house and the blanket is what homelander couldve had

    • @jamesrobinson2086
      @jamesrobinson2086 3 місяці тому +27

      LOL! That was the movie 'Man of Steel', not the comics

    • @roachofdoom1234
      @roachofdoom1234 3 місяці тому +48

      @@jamesrobinson2086yeah but I think there’s a similar scene in Superman: Earth One. One of my favorites and Man of Steel takes a lot of inspiration from it

    • @X23Ninja
      @X23Ninja 3 місяці тому +45

      D.C Comics have always made it very clear that 1 of the main reasons Superman is the way he is, is due to the influence and Love he received by being raised by The Kents. Homelander never had the love of loving parents which explains his behaviour

    • @seeleunit2000
      @seeleunit2000 2 місяці тому +11

      ​@@jamesrobinson2086Way to miss the point.

    • @adj789
      @adj789 2 місяці тому +1

      he doesn't even have a name

  • @blobbydubs
    @blobbydubs 3 місяці тому +266

    The way Barbara was speaking tells me she already knew everyone there including her would die. There was no escape from that facility, so for once she told John the entire truth. No remorse, no half-truths, she was honest because she knew this was it for her.

    • @CuteKiller313
      @CuteKiller313 3 місяці тому +57

      I got the impression she was trying to goad him into losing his temper and killing them all at least quickly to try to avoid the drawn out process he ended up with.

    • @LordVolkov
      @LordVolkov 3 місяці тому +44

      I think that with that in mind, Barbara wanted to hurt HL in the only way she could before the end.

    • @marcuskif
      @marcuskif 2 місяці тому +4

      Oh wow this is a interesting discussion

    • @4bibimimi
      @4bibimimi 2 місяці тому +4

      In the back of their minds did they know that one day he would return to destroy them?

    • @4bibimimi
      @4bibimimi 2 місяці тому +15

      ​@@CuteKiller313Barbara was the only one who could tell homelander what to do. Like when she turned up and told HL to put Marty out of his misery. He complied however violently.

  • @kixter490
    @kixter490 3 місяці тому +135

    Barbara was cruel and up front because she knew there was zero chance they were getting out of there alive. She knew he came to kill them all and there was no deescalation possible.

    • @jackhanson3856
      @jackhanson3856 2 місяці тому +6

      Or she just talked to him the way all other authority figures, like Stan, know how to speak to him. Bluntly and condescendingly.

  • @serving712
    @serving712 3 місяці тому +694

    Apart from torture, when he was killing his nannies as a child by accident, they company & scientists kept telling him "don't worry, we'll find a new one". They treated humans like toys that can be replaced therefore child HL started liking killing them.

    • @KingMuncheez
      @KingMuncheez 3 місяці тому +131

      That’s terrifying as someone whose done a lot of child care. When kids throw things n see u pick them up, they throw it again because they feel reassurance n joy n makes them laugh (and because humans in general are just little shits😅 imo) so imagining toddler “John” lasering caretaker after caretaker n just….giggling like a happy baby

    • @secondhandevil
      @secondhandevil 2 місяці тому +14

      I think he killed her on purpose because he knew she didn't really love him.

    • @saltchipper-7147
      @saltchipper-7147 Місяць тому

      @@secondhandevilhe would’ve been too young to think about it that deeply at nanny age tbh

  • @furion3511
    @furion3511 3 місяці тому +432

    On the note of Vought's creation and grooming of Homelander, I'm still floored by the revelation that his attachment issues were carefully engineered by Vought after consultations with psychologists. The idea that anyone could use that kind of knowledge with the explicit intent of inflicting trauma on another human being is one of the single most disturbing things in the entire series.

    • @craykard8325
      @craykard8325 3 місяці тому +44

      Reality TV employees that tactic to create character conflict.

    • @bigperk345
      @bigperk345 3 місяці тому +52

      Shit dude, they teach those techniques in marketing school.

    • @serafine666
      @serafine666 3 місяці тому +60

      Even more disturbing is that consulting with psychologists and neurologists to create unhealthy effects in consumers is something done IRL. Social media is deliberately designed to create addiction.

    • @AlexiasPlaylist
      @AlexiasPlaylist 3 місяці тому +8

      Bruh it's already done, do you know how many people don't grow from therapy and just learn how to justify behaviors and manipulate people? I've heard people act surprised about this stuff before when to me it's common sense someone would do that

    • @Skyisgoingbacktopluto
      @Skyisgoingbacktopluto 3 місяці тому +11

      ​@@serafine666to add a specific example, infinite scrolling was made to encourage continuous engagement which is just a cute way to say it was made to create addiction.

  • @louiswalusimbi8006
    @louiswalusimbi8006 3 місяці тому +107

    His murder of all of those people is ironic, because, malice is a behavior that is incredibly human. The worst monsters that have ever taken a breath on this planet have been human beings. If he were really above humanity, he wouldn’t have been so sadistic, he would have remained detached. He may have still killed them, but I suspect he might have just used his lasers, something quick and practical. No use in getting people’s entrails in his eyes, nose, and worst of his hair. I pray his son didn’t see him walk in like that, but the boy has the same powers so he could definitely smell it

    • @fredwin
      @fredwin 3 місяці тому +4

      ​@@smileyhappyface5864That's what he's saying, he literally just typed out that if Homelander didn't have insane human traits he may have just laser'd them and not been so visceral.

    • @smileyhappyface5864
      @smileyhappyface5864 3 місяці тому +2

      @@fredwin Sorry, I misunderstood and might've missed a few words. Thanks for calling that out.

    • @jimbimedia
      @jimbimedia 2 місяці тому +1

      Human’s gods, jealous, lustful, hateful, violent. Even one true gods.

    • @louiswalusimbi8006
      @louiswalusimbi8006 2 місяці тому

      @@fredwin Exactly

    • @louiswalusimbi8006
      @louiswalusimbi8006 2 місяці тому

      @@jimbimedia Are you referring to those phonies from the Greek pantheon?

  • @KingofIronfist
    @KingofIronfist 3 місяці тому +65

    23:55 I think what's also worth noting is, the fact that "John" is the name he was reffered to as in the time of this trauma, bonds this name to those memories, so the name itself can also be a trigger that reminds him of what he went through

  • @RicardoHernandez-sz2yp
    @RicardoHernandez-sz2yp 2 місяці тому +47

    Homelander is a great example of “hurt people, hurt people.”

  • @ivanhunter6492
    @ivanhunter6492 3 місяці тому +98

    Homelander was groomed from CHILDHOOD to be a product of Vought

    • @mellennia9
      @mellennia9 3 місяці тому +15

      From *BIRTH* pretty much.

    • @millerrepin4452
      @millerrepin4452 3 місяці тому +24

      His creation was planned out before his birth. No matter his temperament or personality he was always going to be screwed up.

    • @4bibimimi
      @4bibimimi 2 місяці тому +4

      Stan Edgar told HL he was flawed product

  • @ChaoticDoodle
    @ChaoticDoodle 3 місяці тому +63

    If I lived in this universe I’m living on the opposite side of wherever Homelander is. Preferably in a bunker 😭😭😭😭

  • @DeRockMedia
    @DeRockMedia 3 місяці тому +72

    "I'm dissapointed in you" , Asians know how much this stings from parents

    • @Naptosis
      @Naptosis 3 місяці тому +10

      Worse than the slipper. 😔

    • @darlalathan6143
      @darlalathan6143 3 місяці тому +12

      "Great expectations bring great disappointment. Lower your expectations and performance will rise." I learned that in my anxiety support group.

    • @ColdCutz
      @ColdCutz 3 місяці тому +1

      EMOTIONAL DAM…. I’ll see myself out.

    • @sanvan5245
      @sanvan5245 2 місяці тому +1

      I hear it everyday from the day I turned 18 lol

    • @connorlee3704
      @connorlee3704 2 місяці тому

      "My son's a failure!"-Steven He

  • @oddchick
    @oddchick 3 місяці тому +20

    I don’t think Barbara was trying to de-escalate the situation, I think this was more of a Sam Edgar situation. She knows that Homelander came down to kill them all and so now she’s just laying out her true feelings about him and his situation - like hey if I’m going to die I’d like to know that the nails of my coffin pierced you too.

  • @Lucidtherealone
    @Lucidtherealone 3 місяці тому +31

    A video on Sage would be awesome shes the most interesting new character this season

  • @volunteer4awesome
    @volunteer4awesome 3 місяці тому +19

    One thing about the motivation of the woman in the massacre scene, speaking as she did. This is something I've noticed about Voight management. They treat Homelander, as a boy growing up, and here, just like they treat a recalcitrant employee.
    I think it's possible she also saw the writing on the wall. Homelander was fishing for some unvarnished truth about his childhood and treatment, and wasn't going to leave until he got it and he was going to do whatever he was going to do. So she gave him the thing he wanted, seemingly accepting that by this point, they'd just have to weather his reaction.

  • @Tekdruid
    @Tekdruid 3 місяці тому +35

    17:57 _Oo,_ I just noticed how much this scene mirrors Gollum's "Nobody likes you!" monologue in LOTR.

    • @LordVolkov
      @LordVolkov 3 місяці тому +1

      John's not listening 🙉

  • @marioluigi911
    @marioluigi911 3 місяці тому +11

    I wish I had you as a therapist. Just hearing you talk about the way we suppress our emotions and figuring out what makes you happy really touched me. I struggle with chronic depression and it has gotten much worse over the last few years. My brother blamed me for my dads Alzheimer’s and said it was my fault. Even though I know logically he is wrong I’m still stuck and feel like my mental health had an impact on him. My brother was someone I looked up to so much as a child and just like homelander having that last sort of fatherly figure reject and turn on you. Even though I know he’s wrong I still hear his words in my head every day. Telling me I should’ve saved my family the trouble and offed myself as a teen. This inner dialogue you talk about is so hard to fight. And I’ve had therapists talk to me about it before but the way you talk about it somehow gets through to me better. Thankyou for this video. I know it wasn’t for me but I feel like it helped a little.

    • @GeorgiaDow
      @GeorgiaDow  3 місяці тому +8

      i am so happy that it was helpful and i appreciate you sharing this it will help others also. I hope you continue to heal

  • @Rigald02
    @Rigald02 3 місяці тому +20

    I actually think the smiling is about his own freedom. that may be the first time, in all his life, that he killed teh very people that groomed him into what he had become. That he freed himself of that pain, that past. I think that it's not much about his humanity and ego than his own satisfaction and ability to think "and now they cannot do anthing more to me or my son". The way he does it, is like an internal joke, somehow, so maybe it also dawned to him the fact he could have done it so much earlier.

  • @Dusmiethwhi
    @Dusmiethwhi 3 місяці тому +9

    I feel like the Homelander Storylines are something out of a Camus novel. The man is driven absolutely insane by the absurdity of the situation, and not just the powers but the attitude and behavior of everyone around him.
    It reads like Vought is a narcissistic parent and he's granted the power to strike back, but there is no physical body to retaliate against so he just rages against the world.

    • @11FBA11
      @11FBA11 2 місяці тому +2

      Probably also explains why he has so much contempt for humans.

    • @Dusmiethwhi
      @Dusmiethwhi 2 місяці тому

      @@11FBA11 they are the ones running the lab.

  • @jessiepiquette
    @jessiepiquette 3 місяці тому +13

    I would like to see a psycho analyzation of Sister Sage and the burdens of carrying her intelligence

    • @leeomega4999
      @leeomega4999 3 місяці тому

      She is the mirror reflection of The Watchmen. Creating this solitude for one of the most powerful beings in the world

    • @jessiepiquette
      @jessiepiquette 3 місяці тому +1

      So, still want it

  • @Canoby
    @Canoby 3 місяці тому +26

    I shouldn't like how well Georgia wears her Homelander costume as well as she does
    I post this a minute into watching the video, so I'm looking forward to her insights into Johnnyboy's character

  • @austincde
    @austincde 3 місяці тому +18

    27:23 i agree , just by watching this clip I don't watch the show, shes speaking to him as an equal to deescalate, thats why she survives, but he also gets to call her bluff by letting her live. Power trip

  • @adamspencer5142
    @adamspencer5142 3 місяці тому +12

    No one was getting out of that room alive after seeing the first guy go. I think she is locked in with the dead bodies (not 100%, but it looks like he might have lazered the door shut.) He might also trust that she won't say anything as it implicates vaught.

  • @ElizabethMcCormick-s2n
    @ElizabethMcCormick-s2n 3 місяці тому +27

    Homelander is like Superman but without the moral restraint!

    • @DeathcoreOfKrieg
      @DeathcoreOfKrieg 3 місяці тому +13

      We have seen that for more than 3 seasons now. But thanks for sharing this insightful thought.

    • @aaronstorey9712
      @aaronstorey9712 3 місяці тому +3

      Superman had an amazing family behind him. Homelander had those psychopaths

    • @ElizabethMcCormick-s2n
      @ElizabethMcCormick-s2n 3 місяці тому +2

      @@aaronstorey9712 Yes, the Kents did give Superman a great upbringing!

  • @jacksquatt6082
    @jacksquatt6082 2 місяці тому +3

    29:10 I think she realized that no one was getting out of that situation alive. So, she was going to be as brutally honest as she could. Better to do that then to lie and be scared of what Homelander would do next.

  • @misterderp4566
    @misterderp4566 3 місяці тому +7

    C'mon now, Barbara knew full well that no one was leaving there alive. Maybe having your groin lasered through isn't necessarily fatal, but we both know, everyone there was going to die. (Not sure if you noticed, but Homelander welded the door shut. Barbara will die from dehydration/starvation in that room, surrounded by the blood of those who worked for her).
    I'd reckon if anything, she wanted to reduce him -- to take away the power that he was exerting/feeling in his petty revenge mission. I think the importance of her words will be seen in future episodes. To your point, those words probably didn't help, if anything, they made things worse. But she DID get to him, she DID trigger him, I suppose as an act of defiance in the face of death, sort of like spitting in someone's face when they have a gun to your head. She's saying "you think you're so big because you can kill me, but I always had more power over you."
    Barbara was, basically, his Mom, insofar as a toddler Homelander perceived. She has influence over him in a very different way than most. His need for love and acceptance has been called out more than once before this, but I think this one is what actually breaks through (holy hell, Antony Starr deserves an Emmy for just the way his eyes and smug grin shift, ever so slightly, as she speaks). She was his Mom, so she can cut deeper than anyone else. Alternatively, she might have cut him deep enough that something changes -- she knows how he operates better than anyone. She might have ACTUALLY exposed a weakness that actually turns the tide, in some way.
    His whole obsession with milk is clearly tied to never having had a real Mom...I'd be curious to hear what you have to say in that regard. There are a number of stone cold villains who just looove their milk. A Clockwork Orange, No Country For Old Men, The Professional, Inglorious Basterds, Westward, Shrek, there are a TON of examples. It's fairly clear with Homelander that it's a Mommy issue, but why has this kind of become a thing amongst villains in pop culture?

    • @Icemario87
      @Icemario87 3 місяці тому +1

      Fidel Castro was apparently known for his ability to consume inhuman amounts of dairy/milk/icecream.

    • @DubbaLubbaB
      @DubbaLubbaB 2 місяці тому

      I thought you called Shrek a stone cold villain💀

  • @AngelArm1110
    @AngelArm1110 3 місяці тому +4

    Homelander was conditioned to never be happy with himself on his own, and to seek the approval of Vought's CEO. Unfortunately, now that he IS Vought's defacto CEO, he's trapped himself in a loop of constantly needing approval from the one person in the world he can't get it from. Himself.

    • @11FBA11
      @11FBA11 2 місяці тому +1

      True. Which is why Stan Edgar said he will regret it. He has no one to give him guidance, nor anyone to blame. So he needed someone like sister sage. Or reinstate Stan as ceo.

  • @Jesses001
    @Jesses001 3 місяці тому +8

    If I had not witnessed the ineptitude of corporations first hand, I would have thought that they could not possibly be this stupid to have had his childhood this horrible. He was not taught any good cooping skills for life at all. Just the opposite in fact. Of COURSE he was going to turn out really bad. Of course it was going to come back around on you. The chance of it not blowing up in their face would had been a winning lottery ticket chacne for sure.

  • @dah_goofster
    @dah_goofster 2 місяці тому +2

    I started getting a little sweaty around the part homelander was talking to all the pieces of himself after shattering the mirror. I have bad identity issues and having all those pieces inside of you only complicates things even further, especially when you have to parent yourself… why is this killer so relatable

  • @Joybuzzard
    @Joybuzzard 2 місяці тому +1

    I like how he brought the ice cream cake to the lab while intending on killing everyone there. It was a beautiful scene that was literally the icing on the cake.

  • @RedShirtGuy96
    @RedShirtGuy96 2 місяці тому +2

    this scene was probably one of the best so far in the boys because of how they incorporated the graphic content seamlessly into the context of homelander's revenge quest. Every act of torture was designed to mirror how he was experimented on and treated. Barbara likely has advanced psychologic training allowing her to manipulate homelander (as well as maternal presence that keeps him from killing her possibly due to conditioning), however it failed when homelander executed the rest of her staff by hand as a show of control over barbara and locked her inside with the remains like the animals they used to leave him with. Absolutely brilliant on all levels, of writing and storytelling, i can't wait to see Homelander's continued spiral in season 4

  • @harunh_arts
    @harunh_arts 3 місяці тому +6

    I don't know if you know The Boss a.k.a. The Joy, from Metal Gear Solid 3: Snake Eater. But I am curious to know your take on her and her psychology.
    She is not only a staple for woman characters in video games but also a staple for all characters in any form of media and also she gives a powerful message to live by.

  • @skellyp7804
    @skellyp7804 3 місяці тому +5

    I didn’t watch season four episode four yet, but seeing the title “Homelander kills everyone “feels like I’ve been spoiled. . .

    • @skellyp7804
      @skellyp7804 3 місяці тому

      I will forgive if you make more AOT videos 😊

    • @rosenrot234
      @rosenrot234 3 місяці тому

      Nah no main character deaths. You're good.

    • @millerrepin4452
      @millerrepin4452 3 місяці тому

      Homelander killing someone is hardly a spoiler if you are up to season 4. It would be more of a spoiler if he didn't.

  • @Dealerofdeath1998
    @Dealerofdeath1998 2 місяці тому +1

    Im glad you adressed the point about soldier boy calling him a dissapointment i think that was one of the final nails in the coffin for homelanders last shred of sanity and it effected him profoundly

  • @MS-jp3op
    @MS-jp3op 2 місяці тому +1

    I think Homelander has a lot in common with Frankenstein's monster. Their creators got exactly what they wanted only to realize they didn't want it and abandoned them, but both monster have to go on living in a world that doesn't want them.
    “Did I request thee, Maker, from my clay to mold me man? Did I solicit thee from darkness to promote me?” - Milton

  • @TheEpicSpire
    @TheEpicSpire 3 місяці тому +7

    i've said for a long time now that i have felt sorry for Homelander. people think that makes me a Nazi sympathizer, but sympathy does not equal agreement. I feel sorry for him, but trauma does not excuse behavior. My sympathy originally was due to compound V seeming to have some sort of mental/emotional degradation on the individual. almost every supe has some sort of heightened disorder. we see it a lot more in Gen V. Even Starlight is affected by this, but she has managed to fight through most of those issues - maybe with the help of Hughey or a combination of other things, but we see that even she was a bully when she was a kid. but that is also my point of "trauma doesn't excuse behavior" Starlight managed to overcome or at least hide/ignore whatever intrusive thoughts she has - for the most part. I mean she did mess Firecracker up.... don't blame her TBH, but still it was an over reaction that any normal human would be held accountable for (Assault is assault, even if it was for a good reason).
    I didn't know the full details of Homelander's back story, but i knew he was grown and raised and tested on, his story is tragic. An what he has chosen to do with his power is even more so. Instead of helping those who were helpless like he felt, he chose to become like those that harmed him. He saw that harm as power and since he was powerful, he feels like that power over him was his. and now he uses fear as a form of obedience. I highly doubt they will do a redemption story for him. Too many people would be mad due to the political nature that he embodies. But i would love to see some sort of attempt at redemption, ending with him sacrificing himself to save the world or something cheesy... but i want it to have story, not just a "oh final episode, pushes asteroid into sun and falls into the sun's gravity well which is just too strong for him where he burns like he did in the oven until he dies of old age...."
    but at least it looks like A Train is getting a redemption.

  • @Fallenangel_85
    @Fallenangel_85 2 місяці тому +1

    It's pretty clear to me that the doctor knew she couldn't deescalate the situation anymore.
    So she pressured him and enforced his insecurities again.
    Leaving him with an idea he can't get rid off, for the future

  • @ExMachina70
    @ExMachina70 2 місяці тому +1

    Think about this, Homelanders default attack is always the lasers from his eyes, but when it came to his son, he had blood all over him when he killed all those agent in the cabin. That means that Homelander got up and REAL close to personally kill all the soldiers with his bare hands.

  • @1fulsniperlegend
    @1fulsniperlegend 2 місяці тому +2

    Are you okay Georgia In the video there were several points where it sounded like you were going to cry hope everything is okay

  • @damianstarks3338
    @damianstarks3338 3 місяці тому +6

    Yes yes and yes I was kinda waiting for you to do another Boys video especially on Homelander keep these videos coming all through this fourth season of The Boys.

  • @tjjohnson1675
    @tjjohnson1675 3 місяці тому +4

    Okay I like the Homemade homelander suit
    Honestly this episode
    Kinda made me relate to homelander and like rocket said “I didn’t ask to her made or ask to be a monster “
    Yet here we are still beside all tte horrific stuff he’s done you wonder what would’ve happened if he was raised correctly and not treated like a test subject

  • @koshersugar7331
    @koshersugar7331 2 місяці тому +1

    Something that I noticed was that each of the reflections of homelander really resembled the Freudian psychological structure of the Id, Ego, and Superego. The Id wants to kill and remove the pain (and fulfills his base desires), the Ego is caring and wants to resolve things with Ryan, and the superego mediates between the two.

  • @bluemassgamer17
    @bluemassgamer17 3 місяці тому +1

    Homelander keeping his grey hair reminds me of Yoshikara kira from JoJo keeping his finger nails.

  • @Majoranza
    @Majoranza 3 місяці тому +1

    One thing that really stuck out to me was when you mentioned how being an extremely powerful man surrounded by sycophants makes everything meaningless, and how it mirrors many of ancient Chinese emperors who had everything they could have wanted but it wasn’t enough. Many of them went mad, did horrendous things, and/or died seeking immortality. Sometimes all three

  • @zoeollie202
    @zoeollie202 2 місяці тому

    Him smiling in anger and trying to wipe it off when he scared Ryan into running off is so relatable. No one is there but even when you’re free to remote in privacy the mask compulsion to smile supercedes the authentic emotion.

  • @newbornviking9721
    @newbornviking9721 3 місяці тому +6

    Georgia Dow Please do Mike a video on psychiatrist Of Virgil From Devil may cry

  • @waifudragon7760
    @waifudragon7760 3 місяці тому +3

    Omg thats your best cosplay yet, I love it!! Also a great video

    • @GeorgiaDow
      @GeorgiaDow  3 місяці тому +2

      oh yay i reworked this one from my last homeland video so appreciate that so much

  • @lewishiniski1276
    @lewishiniski1276 3 місяці тому +1

    I feel you just gave a possible spoiler in how that Therapist who to talk down to Homelander was encourage by someone we didn’t see to so that Homelander will become his own hubris.

  • @christopherlong5405
    @christopherlong5405 2 місяці тому

    This episode explained how Stan Edgar was able to deal with Homelander.

  • @Aceedius
    @Aceedius 3 місяці тому +1

    My read on Barbara's actions is that she's fully aware Homelander isn't planning on letting anyone leave alive, but believes herself still capable of controlling him the same way she used to, well enough to disarm the situation. A part of this is putting on a mask of not fearing him, and that's where I think the execution order comes in. It's one step ahead of just not being fazed by the violence in front of her, putting Homelander down for what she wants to convince him was a pointless gesture and essentially telling him to clean up the mess he's made. Saying that him killing all of them won't achieve anything continues the same play, with the end goal of making him submit by pushing the same buttons that worked when he was a child.
    I'd say it's immediately obvious to us that she won't succeed. But from what we're able to glimpse of her character, she comes across as cold, cruel and arrogant enough that I think it makes sense for her to believe she could. Her ultimate fate also seems like Homelander understands her well enough to know how to strike back and make it hurt. Deep inside she's probably as afraid of dying in that lab as most people would be, but I also doubt she'd give him the pleasure of showing it at threat of instant death by laser. Locking her in the bad room with a pile of bodies to presumably starve to death slowly is a kind of cruelty beyond what she's able to keep up the mask for, and so that's what he does.
    Thank you for unpacking this horrifying scene, insightful as always!

  • @saiynoq6745
    @saiynoq6745 2 місяці тому

    Homelander is a perfect example of how forgiving isn’t always about the people you are forgiving it’s for you to be free.

  • @collincutler4992
    @collincutler4992 2 місяці тому +2

    I've always been torn on Homelander being the "villian"...yeah, he's a complete psychopath but he is 100% a product of his environment.
    He has never know a normal life, so how doesn't anyone expect him to resemble ANYTHING normal?
    The 1st few episodes he's simply protecting those he sees as important...but he wasnt the bad guy.

  • @6Kubik
    @6Kubik 2 місяці тому +1

    The last thing you said it very interesting. You said a simple action will not heal him and it will come back. The first scene in the next episode is literally him having flashbacks again. But they end with a picture of Ryan. As if he comes to realize what is important to him.

  • @mrsqueakyvoice97
    @mrsqueakyvoice97 Місяць тому

    Getting high and watching this was more therapeutic than any therapist I ever paid…

  • @NYKIKE
    @NYKIKE 3 місяці тому +3

    New Boy's analysis! LETS GOOOO

  • @Xerclipse
    @Xerclipse 2 місяці тому

    I do wonder why Barbara came back if she could have just taken a permanent trip to Belize after hearing that Homelander found them and is there. She knows that she’s a dead person the moment she confronts Homelander.

  • @TheEpicSpire
    @TheEpicSpire 3 місяці тому +6

    26:33 i don't think it was cauterized. i think it should have been, but way too much blood for it to be cauterized. and it was a hole all the way through. his anus was destroyed. he would have had no quality of life if he was even able to be saved.

    • @plasmabeamgames
      @plasmabeamgames 3 місяці тому +3

      Yeah, I assumed that Marty was not going to recover from being lasered. Homelander was just keeping him alive so he could suffer. Barbara was right to put him out of his misery.

  • @AfroNerd-cv1dl
    @AfroNerd-cv1dl 3 місяці тому +1

    Great video! Great analysis! I absolutely love the extra touch of you dressing up like homelander. Good work

  • @Regenmacher175
    @Regenmacher175 3 місяці тому +6

    Homelander's inner turmoil doesn't matter once he let a plane full of people crash to save his image. It's interesting on an abstract level but he's not redeemable at this stage.

    • @mudshrooze
      @mudshrooze 3 місяці тому

      Thankyou. I'm honestly sick of people trying to paint him as not a villian. He is evil incarnate. But then again most of the characters in the show are as worse as they can be. Honestly can't deal with it anymore. If the show doesnt end with this season I'm done following it

    • @unityfusion6674
      @unityfusion6674 3 місяці тому

      I haven't seen any comments that are trying to forgive him, only saying that is is fascinating to see how his morality and behavior was created, he has done plenty of unspeakable things even before the plane, and many since. He cannot be redeemed but that doesn't mean we're not allowed to understand why he became who he is and sympathize with him as a child who was abused

  • @CY3ERUS
    @CY3ERUS 3 місяці тому +5

    inhumane test creates human monsters

    • @KallusGarnet
      @KallusGarnet 3 місяці тому +1

      They should have let him go outside and play as a child.

  • @jackknowlton2399
    @jackknowlton2399 3 місяці тому +2

    I was waiting for this video as soon as I watched the episode: thank you so much!!

  • @syl_ster230
    @syl_ster230 3 місяці тому +1

    I was watching this season with... well... the boys and we were straight up talking about how this would be interesting to see Georgia talk about

  • @aholmes74ah
    @aholmes74ah 3 місяці тому +1

    Him leaving without killing everyone he wanted was never an option 😅

  • @jeffrey7282000
    @jeffrey7282000 3 місяці тому +1

    I'm confused how did Sage know John has been washing his hands more often ?

    • @GeorgiaDow
      @GeorgiaDow  3 місяці тому +1

      often it is cracked flaky skin but i would assume he would not show those signs. Nice catch

  • @thestruggler776
    @thestruggler776 3 місяці тому +3

    Hi, is there anything planned on the punisher. I really want to learn more about franks Ptsd etc.

    • @plasmabeamgames
      @plasmabeamgames 3 місяці тому

      I second that! I noticed that the Punisher had an irrational sense of disgust in his conversation with Daredevil in Season 2. I'd love to see his PTSD, disgust, etc. looked at.

  • @alltheworldsastage4785
    @alltheworldsastage4785 3 місяці тому +1

    I'm not sure how I feel about the cosplay, but I appreciate the committment. 😂❤

  • @CrescentiaFortuna
    @CrescentiaFortuna 3 місяці тому +11

    heh, never was that early to a video on YT

  • @RR-ll1ze
    @RR-ll1ze 2 місяці тому

    Those pieces that you lose, that tell you what makes you happy. How do you get them back?

  • @danielallan8061
    @danielallan8061 2 місяці тому

    Around 25:00 in: Your bit on us being social creatures and the fear of abandonment really hits home or me having ADHD and, likely, Autism. Especially when you factor in that people with these disorders typically don't have good childhoods at home or at school.

  • @lkf8799
    @lkf8799 3 місяці тому

    Thanks for coming back to this character. So much to talk about. Great vid.

  • @ahmedomar4173
    @ahmedomar4173 2 місяці тому

    I cant wait for more! I dont watch a lot of the shows you cover but there are plenty of paychologically fascinating characters in television!

  • @tilly704
    @tilly704 2 місяці тому

    I believe, the smile is because he gave justice to his inner child.

  • @melomet3789
    @melomet3789 3 місяці тому

    Wild to me that so many people thought he was right for getting revenge. It isn't right that they did that to him, but I hope people can see how that was a bad way to address his issues

  • @accidentalmadness1708
    @accidentalmadness1708 2 місяці тому

    “He could’ve gone to hospital” no man wants to live after that.

  • @trinstonmichaels7062
    @trinstonmichaels7062 Місяць тому

    Can't wait for when they adapt the rest of the show.

  • @henrikbjork5975
    @henrikbjork5975 2 місяці тому

    Love the face that Soldier Boy was right. But they did not know he was that way thru design.

  • @MustafaAli-lb8dq
    @MustafaAli-lb8dq 19 днів тому

    29:40 She is talking sternly to Homelander because Homelander never kills people who are not scared of him. It becomes a challenge for him and he likes challenge. Eg: Butcher.

  • @niarahancock4739
    @niarahancock4739 3 місяці тому +1

    I love how the thumbnail is just why😂😂😂😂

  • @batalorian7997
    @batalorian7997 3 місяці тому +1

    Could you ever see yourself sitting down and having a therapy session with Homelander?

  • @aaronbonogofsky4463
    @aaronbonogofsky4463 2 місяці тому

    "Scorched earth."-Billy Butcher

  • @LJBJ50
    @LJBJ50 2 місяці тому +1

    If Barbra was smart she would've let the right ppl know she was going there and possibly get rescued. Cant imagine her being in there for too long.

  • @KyleColeman-om2fx
    @KyleColeman-om2fx 3 місяці тому

    My first time watching your videos and I'm already hooked. Keep up the good work 💪👍

  • @alexdinu589
    @alexdinu589 2 місяці тому

    I think homelander locked her in the room with all that bodies is his way of telling her:
    "You did this they followed your orders so you are also responsible for their death"
    Also I think that smile means I did it I killed my abusers so the weaknesses I had are over that that part of my past is behind me and now I can be happy

  • @Stevenwinrar
    @Stevenwinrar 2 місяці тому

    I think the things I find the most relatable about homelander, and his story, and even how people see him as a fictional character.
    - Homelander is the biggest monster in the world. Yes thats true. BUT the world always is, was, and will be a bigger monster than ever could ever be. Think about it. Homelander is shown to be invincible, uncontrolable, immune to harm. Yet what is something we know that destroyed and controls him? Not bombs, lasers, powers, or magic. Human society and their capacity to use each other.
    Homelander is a monster because he has god-like powers. The people of the world never needed those powers to be a monster. Monsters capable of tormenting a "God-like being" mad with suffering and pain.
    He is an outcast. He imagines himself being his support as no one else has ever been his support. No one has truly loved him, besides himself. No one understands or sees everything he feels like he does. No one truly hates him, like he does. Its why he imagines his conversations with himself instead of other mentors. he never had any. Only himself.
    Not a "homelander is right!!!" but homelander is a character i care about deeply. "I can fix him" lol.
    But is is a hero who is expected to saved the world, when no one saved him. He just wants to be saved. But with him being the strongest, most powerful, and the only one who cares about him. he has to save himself, which goes against the relief of being accepted and saved by another.

  • @Beymaster20247
    @Beymaster20247 3 місяці тому +4

    Can you react to the amazing digital circus

  • @Inug4mi
    @Inug4mi 3 місяці тому

    See I saw this as Homelander confronting his childhood abusers and choosing to go “no contact.” He’s a cycle breaker (mostly). 😂

  • @kuakilyissombroguwi
    @kuakilyissombroguwi 3 місяці тому +1

    Is she cosplaying as Homelander while psychoanalyzing Homelander?
    I have found my wife, ya'll.

  • @BokushingusKendoTV
    @BokushingusKendoTV 2 місяці тому

    The bottom line is he’s a child of abuse, lack of empathy towards him and oppression.
    It’s like he told his son, “we are now free now.”

  • @Nethr
    @Nethr 2 місяці тому

    After listening to just the first couple minutes of your analysis I have a strange feeling he is going to try to force his son to kill Butcher.
    If Homelander has been trying to cut out his humanity by killing these people from his past then the one that reminds his son of his son's humanity would have to be Butcher.
    That could end up being what turns them against each other.

  • @Maxisamo1
    @Maxisamo1 17 днів тому

    26:28 He 100% would have died from that
    It's a massive hole cutting through major arteries, bone, with clean entry and exit wounds, and he already had a giant pool of blood formed within seconds
    The medical attention that MIGHT have saved him was not going to get there in time

  • @Mike90317
    @Mike90317 3 місяці тому +2

    Yes yes yes, super therapy!

  • @brettmelnrick4854
    @brettmelnrick4854 3 місяці тому

    Thank you for another solid video with great insight!

  • @donavan34
    @donavan34 2 місяці тому

    I dont think he would wanna go to the hospital tbh

  • @eleazaramargora4633
    @eleazaramargora4633 2 місяці тому +1

    It almost like youre about to cry while explaining the show

  • @tskmaster3837
    @tskmaster3837 3 місяці тому

    This episode makes me wonder if the creators of The Boys intend to take the tougher path, redeeming Homelander instead of killing him.
    If they can successfully pull it off, I would be impressed.

  • @darylifillifill1677
    @darylifillifill1677 2 місяці тому

    Thank you for doing these ❤

  • @1s3ngr1m
    @1s3ngr1m 2 місяці тому

    Give people power and sooner or later they get corrupted by it.
    Give people limitless power...well...better be far away from them

  • @stephsnotfluffy
    @stephsnotfluffy Місяць тому

    good video. highly insightful

  • @adj789
    @adj789 2 місяці тому +1

    I loved this episode