Owen Jones lists the 'nauseating' issues he has with the government, as first Labour MP resigns
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- Опубліковано 29 вер 2024
- With Rosie Duffield being the first Labour MP to resign, Natasha Devon speaks to The Guardian's Owen Jones.
Long-time Labour voter Owen Jones says 'he could see this coming' due to 'the various problems' with the Party.
'They have no vision, they have no soul, they're self-serving careerists', begins Owen Jones, as he attempts to list all of the issues with the government.
Rosie Duffield, 53, is the fastest MP to leave a party after a general election in modern history.
In her resignation letter, the now-Independent MP for Canterbury, wrote to the Prime Minister: "I am so ashamed of what you and your inner circle have done to tarnish and humiliate our once proud party.”
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Animal Farm being played out. Poor Boxer. This wild mill had terrible foundations.
A certain weekday LBC presenter is resembling Squealer..
Animal Farm: “All animals are equal, but some animals are more equal than others." Sadly we are just cycling through different "pigs" at the farm.
I have to agree with you, I’m another lifelong labour supporter disappointed beyond words.
@@johnmoore9862 Labour hasn't been Labour for a very long time, and sadly all parties end up serving their own interests instead of the people's. It's beyond frustrating to see this happen time and again. A change in the system is needed to create real change. At 66, I’ve heard the same empty promises for years, and I have to say I'm now over it. I now always vote - none of the above!
@@daisy91954 I've been thinking of the party at the end when they couldn't tell the difference between pigs and men!
Same here and I am the same age but we did have a chance of change in 2017 and the people listened to the right wing press not common sense@@daisy91954
@@daisy91954 . The Labour Party need to get back to their roots, as Harold Wilson said back in the ‘60’ “The Labour Movement is a moral crusade, or it is nothing”. I despair of their current leadership.
Owen i owe you an apology because when you started criticising the Labour party i thought you were talking nonsense,now i know you were right so please accept my whole hearted apology and credits to Rosie.
I had the same belated experience when I believed the lieing msm about Jeremy Corbyn, a man of integrity and humanitarian principles. It is all linked and the same issue.
@@KeithBattyedon’t kid yourself.
Apology accepted Kevin. Thanks
@@IamDude2 Explain - I am all ears.
@@Greenpoloboy3 The man was so humanitarian, he said he wouldn’t arm Ukraine for defense as Russia was bombing their civilians. His compassion is very selective.
Maybe we need to start a new party because it's been hijacked
Be careful what you wish for, Corbyn might just grant it!
Corbyn was the leader of the opposition.
Most Labour MPs did not support him because most of them are actually Tories themselves, just like Kier Starmer.
@@reson8as the Quakers say “hope so”
We’ve got it, it’s called Reform, or what Starmer called “the light at the end of the tunnel”.
@@ziggurat-builder8755 that’s a new right wing party. We want real old labour socialism and social liberalism. Not soft neofascism
Pride comes before a fall . Starmer is arrogant
Stami
Nah he's just well trained by Blair and the WEF.
Bullsh*t.
3 months and we haven't even had the first budget yet.
There's a lot of right-wing journalists and commentators screaming out with their fake narratives because they are in mourning, bereaved, over the destruction of their beloved Tory party.
Their fake narratives will be forgot in a few months just like the Donkey field, Pizza Gate, Rayner's Capital Gains tax spoof story etc etc
He's doing as he is told.
I was a life long Labour, but no more, Starmer is leading just another Tory government, Owen is so correct. We desperately need a new party that will truly represent the interests of ordinary working people.
China decided the best interest of ordinary people was to create a rich superclass who would drag them out or poverty.
Vote SNP.
ReformUK
The Workers party with George Galloway is the only brave fighter for the majority of us.
I had voted Labour all my life but in the last elections I just couldn't vote for Starmer. I knew what sort of man he was after his treatment of Jeremy. So I didn't vote.
Owen Jones not normally a fan of yours but extremely well said.A true and honest opinion respects,
Well done, Rosie Duffield!
James O'Brien is going to be fuming
@@superrrnova1986your right, he is such a Starmer sycophant.
She literally took £12,000 in personal donations earlier this year.
@@cozimo64 thank you Starmer!
@@cozimo64also abstained on the pensioners winter fuel allowance. Broke lockdown rules to spend the night with a married man.
Starmer not only lied to the people before the election , but it would seem to his own party members too ! I'm a pensioner who's had to save-up to get a new pair of glasses , while he gets a selection of glasses for nothing from his rich little friends which is rather strange , as he's a millionaire . Is this because he's more equal than me ? Your Resignation please , Mr Starmer .
Remember how he claimed to be the prime minster to us everyone. Then actually almost immediately after he was elected he turned on the weakest in society and gave them no chance to avoid hardship. It is beyond draconian, it’s evil.
Being old you probably have a short memory, the last lot did the same and would still do the same if they'd been re-elected. Perhaps you expected real change in the way politics is done in this country from Labour, sorry they disappointed you.
Still free specs in Scotland . Extra for non reading ones .
Only if you're on benefits@@MyKharli
@@sheenamcleod3386 oh yep !
Starmer, same as the last lot.
Neo liberal Grifters. Different rosette!
Neoliberalism is a disease. We need mass investment and public ownership
Cobblers
@@philipwookey599they were shoe repairers?
Nah, they’re grifters.
@@philipwookey599Why
Establishment plant is what he is.
Well done Rosie someone with principles... Do right... 👍👍
😂😂😂
She literally took £12,000 in personal donations earlier this year.
She has no principles, and she's only doing this for self-serving reasons, but the fact that she's pulling the curtain back on the "Labour" Party now is the only thing of any worth she has ever done.
Mind you, I bet now she'd all but guaranteed a 5-year job, she won't do the decent thing and call for a new local election while standing as an Indy.
As a Labour voter, I can not vote for them again. As for Kier Starmer I think there are plagues that are more popular than him.
He doesn’t care. Just there for the grift. Uni should be free and means tested in rent etc
You say vote for them again you shouldn’t have voted for them in the last election then maybe we would not be in the mess we are
How bad does a government have to be to unite Owen Jones and Rosie Duffield in their (justified) contempt?
Not particularly bad. Owen Jones has a history of going for Starmer (and "New Labour" types in general) at the slightest hint of an opportunity, whilst he let the ineptitude of Compo Corbyn and Old Mcdonell's leadership go virtually unchallenged.
This guy will only be happy when we have labour out of power. Then he can criticise.the Goverment without a guilty conscience..
@@johnrussell3961 What guy are you talking about? Me? I worked my backside off to get Labour in power this last summer.
You must be another clueless propagandist being paid for by Starmer HQ.
@@ftumschk can you tell me what the difference is on economic policy between Starmer’s Labour and Cameron’s Tory party because I can’t
@@nazb1982 One enormous difference is that, thanks to the mismanagement of the economy over the past 14 years, this Government has far, far less money at its disposal than Cameron ever had.
And, thanks to the madness of Brexit and the knee-capping of trade links to a huge market on our doorstep, Starmer has fewer options with which to generate economic recovery, let alone economic growth.
Of course, Corbyn and Macdonnell were secretly in favour of Brexit, and did their best to undermine the Remain campaign, despite nominally (and hypocritically) being part of it.
So far lost the pensioner vote. Lost the disabled vote lost the long term sick vote lost the are they drinking fron the braveman cup
And now they're hiking up student fees. They might want a rethink on lowering the voting age to 16...
He is so right. Labour doesn’t deserve that name anymore. Has got nothing to do with laborers, it’s just conservatives 2.0
Dealing with reality has always been a quality of wining labour leaders . Atlee had it in spades.
@Hans-k9j A party full of multi millionaire Socialists. What does that tell you? Why do you think they get teachers to brain wash kids? Because adults know what la la land is. They should be called The Filthy lucre party. That works.
No, it's Labour. Time you all accept it. You are just repeating what Labour voters said after Blaire and Browne "nooo, that wasn't real Labour! They're just Tories in disguise".
Labour for the past 30 years have been there to support the unemployed and, whichever minority group will get them votes. If you're a British working man, you exist purely to pay tax.
So, to act surprised, ashamed or, betrayed by this government just shows you haven't been paying attention.
Modern Labour are the opposite of the traditional Labour party. They cynically use the brand name.
Haven't ben Labour since Blair got elected.
Starmers lack of charisma is matched by his lack of principle and common decency. Such arrogance from a government elected with only a third of the vote.
100% agree with him disgusting
I so agree with Owen jones and Rosie Duffield are correct
This is why socialism has never and will never work, once in power Keir succumbs to wealth and power as they all do, like the politburo with their own lanes on Moscow motorways. Some are more equal than others.
@@billuk1413Starmer was never a socialist not even a social democrat anymore just a Tory at least on economic policy
Errrrr Owen Jones is a Noncer. Who defended Huw Edwards
@nazb1982 Tories wouldn't have caved to the unions at the expense of pensioners.
The last Tory government weren't even real Conservatives either
@@billuk1413ffs keir starmer is not a socialist and neither is 80% of the mps.
Well done Rosie. A politician with honour and scruples. Very brave. Now let's see a few more labour MPs resigning.
Thanks Owen. Very clear as usual.
She literally took £12,000 in personal donations earlier this year.
This is not a Labour government, they are Tory Lite. We now have a single transferable party, as Chomsky said, they want a very lively debate within very narrow parameters.
Starmer, so glad I didn't vote for them.
Me neither. The polling card went straight in the bin.
And me 71 years old always voted Labour but not this time never liked the look and the cut of Starmer, saw right through him
We should change to a pr system of voting which should probably be compulsory but with a box for none of the candidates.
Me too ✋
sire kid starver brings shame on my country. Human Right's lawyer ????????
Human rights only for the rich and powerful.
Owen, bang on the money.... 👍
Well that's a first...
@@FraserBailey-jm5yzactually, he’s been right most of the time.
@@FraserBailey-jm5yzit’s really not. Quite the opposite actually
@@FraserBailey-jm5yzit really isn't
Labpur only by name. Respect Rosie Duffield
Even Owen Jones has issues with them. Never thought I would see the day.
Even Owen Jones? He'd have a problem with anyone who isn't Corbyn
Owen hasn't supported Labour for some time now.
He left the party earlier this year.
Then you haven't been paying attention. Not many socialists support the Labour Party anymore, because it is no longer socialist.
What do you mean 'even'? Hes been very consistent in his views and left Labour when they stopped aligning with them
At last. A Labour mp with the courage of her convictions
Don't forget the ones Starmer has already kicked out for daring to speak up !!
Convictions like extreme transphobia and hatred of experts?
Is that the one who voted against the winter fuel payment?
@@Grimfang999 hardly extreme from what i witnessed of the affair
@@Grimfang999 I can get behind the former conviction; there is no evidence of the latter conviction.
Has something happened to Owen jones? I nearly didn’t watch cause I normally can’t have him..he seems different, even looks different and talked a lot of sense ! 👏
He often talks sense.
This is how he's always been.
I don’t understand why people don’t agree with Owen Jones. He has not changed his stance regarding the L.P. I wish there were more of his ilk in the party.
I don't always agree with Owen Jones, however, on this issue he is absolutely right. This Labour government lack not only leadership but simple human decency. Well said Owen.
Because he is a socialist - someone who steals the honest work of others.
I could never vote Labour and disagree with Owen's politics. However, I respect his consistency and integrity by calling out the Labour leadership hypocrisy
Owen Jones has never changed his stance regarding anything, unlike Keir Starmer who U turns every 10 minutes. People who say "I havve never liked him in the past" are almost certainly tory voters.
moral clarity/moral consistency , powerful combination.
Austerity for you, freebies for me. Sir Kid Starver.
And Rayner ...the working class MP 😂
James O'Brien needs to hear this
That would mean he would have to admit being wrong.
Which is impossible for extreme narcissists like him.
That guy needs a psychiatrist
He would need to write a new book "How to be wrong".
He will probably call him a bigott
Who?
@@williekp1Quite obviously Owen Jones 😂
Owen has always spoken sense. Labour has been taken over by the rich right. Take a look at the Green manifesto (the reason I left Labour and voted Green) they are closer to the Labour ideal than Labour.
Absolutely agree with you.
First time I have ever agreed with Owen Jones
Same!
Same here.
You should listen to him more, his career is built around making life better for working people
I'm sure he doesn't care about what you think. He has over 1 million followers who agree with most things he says.
@@danielmoir13well said 👏
I never thought I’d see Labour going after the poorest in society. They’re Tories 2.0.
Blair did but he was a red tory like starmer.
I definitely share his views 👍🏻👏
Several dozen labour MPs need to resign their posts and start an avalanche of by elections . Then they can start their own party .
80% of the electorate didn’t vote for this black comedy clown show . Starmer and the Daleks must resign .
The unions must stop funding labour now , and go on strike for the pensioners .
Naive to think things will get better after the budget. Labour has hit the weakest hardest. Stop calling people right wing for speaking up for the weak.
What are you on about
Reight-wingers hate those they perceive to be weak. That is why they go after them first.
Stop conflating private school boys like Tice and Farage with speaking for the weak.
Nobody in their right mind would call anybody right wing for speaking up for the weak!
Socialism is all about speaking up for the weak, so no, people won't get called right wing for that.
I never liked you much, Jones, and we are poles apart politically, but you’ve seriously gone up in my estimation. I don’t mean to sound condescending or patronising, but well done. Stay true. Much respect and best regards.
Well I must confess, I too am miles away politically from Mr Jones but I can't disagree with a single word he is saying here. I feel the world has been turn upside down in such a short period of time by this new government.
Not sure what you disagreed on before, this is always what he's been about
Hé is absoluutly right. Carry on Owen, you are marvelous!
The UK public have had enough of government, Conservatives was terrible, but Labour are in a different league of horror to us.
Starmer doesn't realise the more he pushes the more us the people will push back!!!
It's all about them........... do we have to remind them............... theres way more of us ✝️🇬🇧
People voted to get the Tories out, not to get Labour in.
Lowest turnout for decades. Lowest vote share for "winning" party.
The system put labour in , not the voters.
Owen Jones is a complete nightmare 😂
Lowest turnout ever
I voted to get Labour in 👍
How can there be families in poverty in the 6th richest country in the world? Because the entire political system is corrupt 😢
Preach.
Precisely. The main reason poverty exists in this country is corruption. Not because people are bad with money.
Erm we rank 21st
We're not in the top twenty richest countries in the world,stop believing the hype , and I respected Owen Jones,but not anymore, somebody else who talks socialism and then snipes from cover .
This also goes about Brexit: OF COURSE the EU wants Britain back. No economic bloc on their right mind would reject a country this rich that's already culturally and militarily integrated. Anti-rejoin propaganda is insane.
First time I have ever agreed with anything Owen Jones has said...at least Labour are uniting the country........against Labour!
Yah not the best to start a government
Likewise, I feel like I am in the twilight zone sitting through one of his interviews. It is only because we both hate the current labour government, I am sure you and I will soon be back to disagreeing with him, haha
I’m not sure how this could be the first time you’ve agreed with him when he’s just saying the same stuff he usually says. Perhaps you decide whether or not you agree with someone based on who, rather than what, they’re arguing for or against. Much like a football supporter supports their team no matter what.
All this guy does is state what a lot of us think. He speaks the truth. I’m not sure why any Labour Party supporter, would not agree with Owen Jones.
@@coreyc1685 facts
They want to poorest to pay more; for their crazy ideas.
what a load of old tosh
@@AndrewWoods-sm9vx is that you 2TK?
Labour MPs applauded their vote on pensioners winter fuel cut...... appalling cruel and disgraceful
Never been a fan of Owen but I have to agree with him
Ditto
Did you agree with him when he defended Huw edwards?
Never side with a mincer
Leftist mincer. Like Wes
Ditto.
I never thought I’d see the day I would be agreeing with Owen Jones.!
I don’t normally agree with Mr Jones but he is spot on
Owen Jones speaking truth to power yet again - a true patriot! 🇬🇧✊
Where's the "truth" in the assertion that Starmer accepted hundreds of thousands of pounds in donations whilst removing the Winter Fuel payment, when the vast bulk of those donations were actually received - and _declared_ - before he became PM?
Owen Jones is not a patriot. He's spent the majority of his career condemning "populism" and, mocking the British working class.
He is right with a lot of his criticism of the current government but, he was amongst the many to pave the way for such an uncaring, authoritarian government.
@@ftumschk Are you contradicting yourself?
@@reson8 Not in the slightest - I'm just getting the facts in the right order, which is more than Duffield or Jones bothered to do. They assert that Starmer was accepting hundreds of thousands of pounds in donations WHILST he was removing the Winter Fuel payment, which is demonstrably false.
Hilarious! 😂
You speak for so, so many of us Owen. Like you I tore up my membership of the Labour Party some time ago. The treatment of JC and Diane Abbott did it for me. We are the many.
MPs that commit fraud need to be prosecuted have a jury trial and let the public decide.
if found guilty they need to be barred from politics for ever its the only way we are going to clear up all the corruption in the system !
Prosperity id just around the corner , But prosperity for who ?
Different cheek of the same backside, I am afraid.
Well said, Owen.
THE MOST vulnerable are the elderly and children..
Today’s elderly are the boomers of the 80’s. The lot who elected Thatcher for tax cuts.
Stop seeing them as innocent.
Couldn't say it better. It is nauseating. A huge con - nothing to do with the aspirations of the millions of people who voted for change which the labour party promised. Sickening.
Meet the new Boss, same as the old Boss. We just got fooled again!
We didn’t get fooled he said exactly what he was going to do, follow Tory economic policy. He’s changed the party to the Tory party. We can’t say we weren’t warned
This guy is an absolute legend wish we had more Owen’s 😅
They need to clone him. Get this thing cleaned up quick
😂
@@Chris-w2q😂
Owen and Rosie i applaud u both.... I hate the Tories, but Starmer could walk under a snake's belly with a top hat 🎩. He is disgraceful and disappointing to the extreme.
Don’t often agree with Owen….but he is spot on!!. The Labour Party was doomed when they put a millionaire and Knight in charge ffs.🤬🤬
Well said Owen.
But Starmer doesn't care about your children... He's too busy arranging for his own children to get freebies - but even they have to wait behind him, as he dips into the troughs presented to him😕
Gotta say, it's bad if Owen Jones wants out.
Owen Jones left the Labour Party ages ago. Way before the election.
@Johnnie-dh1we Yeah, but who would have thought it would happen?
@@johnmaurer2035 he's been against Kier Starmer for the last five years. So it's no surprise at all. He's obsessed with Jeremy Corbyn.
@@Johnnie-dh1westarmer is obsessed with corbyn.according to starmer the only reason labour lost the 2019 election was corbyn.nothing to do with get brexit done or friends of isreal labour mps not wanting to be able to critise isreal whatever they did but rather having lardy boris than a labour goverment.
E
He's already left the labour party a while ago.
Well, I never thought I would agree with Owen Jones!
With nearly 100,000 applications for a benefits increase from the poorest of pensioners doesn't it beg the question, did the last government know they were being underpaid? If they didn't know why didn't they know and worse still if they did know why did they keep it quiet. Just asking.
Many pensioners are either too embarrassed to claim pension credit or simply cannot navigate the 40 page on-line application. The Tories understood that a universal cold weather payment would help every senior citizen equally.
@@ashleywilson2072 And yet the Tories hate the NHS.
Diane Abbott and Jeremy Corbyn both gave us big clues to this tyrant. Rosie has to be applauded and the other brave MPs that are going to follow. If we want Socialism, this is Totalitarianism of the worst kind! Agree with Owen on most oints too!
Put your WEF sunglasses 😎 on.
First time I’ve heard any sort of sense from Owen Jones
You should listen to him more often.
He's always been like this! I have no idea why so many people are only just starting actually hear what he's about
@@powderandpaint14 No thank you. It seems like he’s as fickle and self-serving as most political commentators. He professes to be a crusader for the working class, yet doesn’t know what it’s like to live in impoverished conditions. This is a man that has the utmost contempt for the very system that allows him the platform to espouse his extreme liberal view. I wouldn’t trust him as far as I could throw him. He’s a hypocrite and no better than the rest of them. Apart from that he’s alright☺️
@@powderandpaint14 - no thanks.
We have too much on him from over these past years
Tomorrow I’m buying a cabbage. Let’s see if Stalin’s leadership will outlast it…
Funny all the comments "never a fan of Owen but...."....how noble of you to broaden your horizons 😅 Maybe broaden it to see every person in the world as deserving of humanity like OJ does. Surely makes the world a better place.
I agree. But he’s a communist isnt he
The lesson for the LBC audience is tune in to Owen Jones as well as JOB. (and my respects to Rosie Duffield).
The two child benefit cap was the correct call… why should the state continue to subsidise people who’s life choices are to have a shed loads of kids and hope the UK taxpayer will subsidise them in return. The fact we have a benefits system that has the backside ripped out if it by all and sundry is the reason why people choose to leave safe European countries we take holidays in to risk crossing the Channel to reach the land of milk and honey.
Starmer like the rest before him will only further his own interests. The British political system needs an overhaul from top to bottom.
Why only 8
minutes for owen?
Owen is a legend !❤
Well done Rosie, for standing by your convictions and huge respect...other Labour MPs should be ashamed of themselves...We have unfortunately voted in a heartless
Keir Starmer autocratic government...
Starmer should be stripped of his knighthood!!!
Well said that man
If you close your eyes, you would be thinking Owen is talking about the Tories, not it's about Labour.
" They don't have a soul politically speaking " 😢
Never thought I'd say respect to Owen Jones. He's so right.
How long has Farage been telling you there is no difference between the main political parties in this country, the country and its people should always come first. A government is to serve not rule!
@@NeilLyons-y2t do u really think Fromage won't be doing globalists bidding and lobbyists bidding if in power? Don't be so naive. The UK is a business.
Owen Jone’s could not be more wrong about some things, but I certainly agree with much of his perspective here - as I do with Rosie Duffield.
Owen is bang on
Well explained Owen..
You've gained a fan. Well said.
Gosh for once I agree with Owen Jones 👏
This is how bad things are for Labour, and I mean this sincerely: When normal everyday people start agreeing with people like Owen Jones and Ash Sarkar, you know it’s bad!
It's not bad, what's bad is them voting against their own interests
I didn’t vote for five more years of Austerity!
Labour is finished!
@@moshudoduwade219 you did if you were content with lockdowns and destroying the economy for 2 plus years.
Ed ballup asked his best mate george osbourne if he could borrow his dodgy austerity spreadsheet to give to rechel reeves she will be using it after October.
I can't believe that LBC would allow someone to criticise Starmer like this. James O'Brien must be PURPLE with rage. I have vast respect for Owen Jones speaking up like this. Well done.
Certainly Keir Starmer has shown poor judgment. Being tough on powerless people isn't a tough choice at all. He doesn't need any freebies. However his misdemeanours are hardly on the exorbitant Boris level something that seems to have been forgotten far too soon.
Heads up: BoJo isn't in government anymore. Why are we still talking about him?
Speaking as a Labour Party member and campaigner, I'm frankly tired of all this whataboutery. If we keep harping on about how bad the Tories were, it just gives the current regime a pass to be this bad.
Or Truss. Or Sunak.
@@jackdubz4247 I hated them at the time, but, guess what? Neither are in power anymore, and, besides, they were both part of a dying government. Sir Keir has a HUGE majority and has only been in power for three months. The man is dangerous.
Fortunately, Boris is gone.
Unfortunately, Starmer isn't.
Boris is back on the bbc being interviewed by laura klingon toryice burgh next Thursday.he's advertising his book called it's everybody's fault but mine.the question is which tory in charge at the bbc decided that the corrupt, lying disaster for the country former crime minister should be getting air time at the expense of the licence payers who he spent so much time ripping off.l really think their should be a mass protest and klingon should be given her marching orders for assisting in a crime.
I can't stand owen jones, but he described the labour party, its cronies and it's mps perfectly, so even though it pains me to say it, well said owen.
Well done Owen Jones. He speaks truth to power
this really is the kick up the backside the british people need..................STAND AND FIGHT FOR PROPORTIONAL REPRESENTATION. neither labour, nor tory represent us, the people.
Never thought I’d find myself agreeing with OJ
LOL - I told everyone for 2 years that Starmer had the look of a haunted man whenever he posed for a photograph - all you had to do was look at his face. There is a lot more to come on Starmer - i put a & 20 bet on him being gone in 12 months in August at 200/1 - something tells me I'm on track to collect.
😂😂😂😂😂
She won’t be the last.
Credit to her. She's hopefully opened the floodgates.
Hope so 🙏
Well said Owen!! The punishing of pensionsers, children and the disabled is truly sickening. It feels like deja vu. No change from what the tories did. The only change with labour, is that they have become tories!!!
Rosie Duffield the only labour mp with grit , determination and common sense.
What about the likes of Zarah Sultana who have been suspended already for opposing things like the two child benefit cap?
Right wing media is tiny compared to the BBC, SKY, Channel 4 and Channel 5. No one reads newspapers anymore. The readership of the Daily Mail and Telegraph is tiny and not much higher than the Mirror, i and Guardian. Social media is more or less balanced. But tv is overwhelmingly left wing.
Pensioners read newspapers. They also look at daily mail online.
TV is overwhelmingly left wing? Where do you get that idea from?
@@andrewmay1299 Just listen to the BBC. It is left wing, anti-Semitic, anti Christian and Anti British with a particular disdain for the working class. Which from the Guardian is OK because nobody is forced to cough up £170 under duress to support that load of nonsense …..but from an organisation supposedly impartial it is disgraceful
@@powderandpaint14 Come off it. But I suppose you want to censor hate speech and conspiracy theories like the Wuhan lab leak and the far from perfect safety record of mRNA vaccines.
Heard of GB News and Talk TV?
Starmer has changed the party so much it’s indistinguishable from the tories and we were sick to the back teeth of the tories. Well done Starmer and Reeves, this will not be forgotten.
Reeves should have stuck to singing like her dad Jim.
Well said Owen - Always knew this corrupt bunch would be no different than the last lot - just give time and they will find a way to enrich themselves even further and may even surpass the last lot
It was when Owen realised his grift was going to end 😂😂😂
Never thought I'd see the day when I agreed with anything Owen said, what he said about the labour party sums things up perfectly 👌
New Labour 2.0
I'd take New Labour 1.0 over this lot.
New Labour 1 had it easy. Low debt, and EU membership..
@@johnrussell3961 I didn't vote to leave the EU. Stop punishing us for this decision. Maybe if elites like Sir Keir had done a better job at the top campainging against Brexit, we wouldn't be in this situation. But we are where we are, largely because of the failure of elites like him. So, the punishment should NOT fall on blameless people like me.
As for debt, personally, I'd recommend a pay freeze for all public sector workers, but Reeves and Starmer's bright idea was to increase the salaries of upper-middle-class professionals whilst punishing the elderly, poor children and the disabled. Poor decisions.