What's Missing In Metal Today? | Glen Benton of DEICIDE
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- Опубліковано 19 тра 2024
- Full Episode: • DEICIDE | Glen Benton ...
Hosted by guitar player & founder of Suicide Silence, Chris Garza
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#Garzapodcast #Deicide #Metal #Deathmetal
Balls, character, personality, shock factor, give-no-fucks attitude, good song writing, stop me anytime.
Consider yourself stopped. There's all that and more now than at any other point in metal's history--if you know how and where to find it.
@@scaryperi3051 Shock factor is totally absent. When every band has a "shocking" name like Cattle Decapitation, Infant Annihilator, Granny Fucker etc. it tends to lose gravitas. What would be shocking is a band that ISNT trying to be shocking.
@@xStabizorz "Shock factor is totally absent."
NSBM, RABM, Goregrind, Pornogrind, Funeral Doom, Drone Metal, Brutal Death, Slam Death, Neo Crust, and Metallic Powerviolence would like to have a few words with you.
@@scaryperi3051 I can't even imagine how bad fans of Pornogrind might smell. That would be truly shocking I grant you that.
Add "failed AI tinkering" to that list. 🤣
I would listen to an entire ASMR album with Benton's voice
Oh la la !
He’s %100 correct about the lack of personality. Instead we just have millions of bands playing riffs.
with the same tone and the same sound
Oh man... talking about personality, Glen had it ! I remember in the late 90s, my friend's younger brother talking to me on the phone about Glen. He told me Glen was going to kill himself at 33, his growls gave him cancer etc etc. Seemed so real back then, especially for a Asian kid just getting into the more underground stuff. There was a mystique behind it. But then i older me also loves the fact that Glen can have this kind of sitdown and have an intelligent conversation. Well done, Glen 👏
This is the glen I'd expect but it's clear the guy is level headed and determined
Lol I remember that story
Probably to blaspheme Jesus Christ who died at that age. 😁
@@sudicalwig Maybe, but 33 in general seems to be a significant number but IDK why exactly, but for example 3:33 recurring in the game Eternal Darkness and Meshuggah's Catch 33.
He chose the age because of christ, and it was to be his ultimate act of blasphemy. Nothing else. Obviously, he didn't do it. Or did he? Where are we? Who is anyone? Do we even know anything? What are numbers?
Chaos, Danger, Unpredictability, Individuality… and pure love of the GAME.
Maybe you should do it like this:
Get together in a rehearsal room with a few musicians and have fun and practice, instead of sitting in front of your DAW , playing generic down-tuned riffs on drum plug-ins, quantizing, compressing and auto-tuning everything.
yes
What’s missing is variety. Everyone now is the same, same sound, same look, same equipment. It’s boring. Too many rules and conformity when it comes to metal and really music genres in general.
Literally all of them using Neural plug-ins and the same drum plug in lol
And in entertainment too. When was the last time a movie/game really pushed things forward and was counter cultural.
There are just no icons nowadays, less characters/personalities in the world, in general.
Everyone is so media trained nowadays, even regular people lol
Yep, everybody is terrified to show any personality, which goes for wider society as well
Creativity is missing . The cellphone and the internet stripped everyone of creativity and individualality . Today everybody looks the same, and sounds the same . These guys have are what they see on the Internet .
I disagree. -core sounds the same, metal is still pretty varied.
One night in about 1997 I screamed at Glen to play some Skynyrd. He threw a beer on me and it was the best night ever. In an era where mean thoughts aren't allowed, I'd say the metal is missing from metal and leave it at that.
Yeah dude I as a black metal musician can say that everything is apologized for and compromised by cancel culture. All the political shit in metal. It’s supposed to be Anti Political not supporting left or right bullshit
I found Deicide side by sheer fluke. I was in a record store in the 90s and Once Upon the cross was in there but the album cover was censored and I thought you know if they can't even show the cover this band has to be great so I bought the album blind took it home and just loved it and i have been a fan ever since.
That's what got me into metal in the late 80s, was the mystique, and all those stories about Ozzy and Alice Cooper, the whole Satanic Panic thing with King Diamond on Geraldo, the older kids with their Iron Maiden and Dio shirts, and I'd think, "What does that sound like?" I don't think you can have that anymore because everything's equally accessible on the internet. But, the music's still here, so that's awesome!
This was what drove me to heavy metal initially. I remember seeing a teenager wearing an Iron Maiden “piece of mind” shirt, the shirt scared me and intrigued me.
Funny how much Maiden was a touchstone for so many of us. I remember being a little kid in the early 80's and seeing the album covers in record stores, and that mix of fear, awe, and sheer curiosity that made me want to know what it sounded like.
hell yeah! my favorite artist today is Gran for that reason, I'll post a link since I can't spell his last name for shit ua-cam.com/video/qJpGCoZ4dts/v-deo.htmlsi=dOrAqIHzxpw-Xg4q CC is English! Cheers!
ozzy and alice preach jesus like wimps. Only King is a satanist and he is only the Laveyan type. The others you mentioned are jesus freaks
King is the only atanist and even he is just a Laveyan type. The others you mentioned are jesus freaks
Glen seems in good form.
Good for him. 💪🏻
You're kidding, right???
He seems happy, he looks
Like he lost a few lbs…
He just dropped a new album
Explain what you mean?
@@DesolateSolitude He looks rough here to me, but if he was even chubbier before then I'm glad for his successful self-care.
Respect. Good reply.
Serpents of the light is among my favorite albums of all time.
Those solos.
@@HeathenDanceexactly bro f
Interesting. I think it's one of their weakest. The first three were miles above it imo
The problem is the bass drum doesn't cut through like in other albums.
Yes. First four albums all gold to me.
The internet and social media put an end to a lot of magic that surrounded artist and musicians. There used to lore and rumors about your favorite artist and the mystery was part of the excitment back then. You can one stop shop all your favorite bands equipment, music and look over night now. You dont even have to go wait in line for tickets anymore. Hell you dont even have to leave your living room to scalp them. As great as it to hear this man speak about his past at the click of a button. It has ruined the mystery that surrounded his band and many others.
hell yeah! my favorite artist today is Gran for that reason, I'll post a link since I can't spell his last name for shit ua-cam.com/video/qJpGCoZ4dts/v-deo.htmlsi=dOrAqIHzxpw-Xg4q CC is English! Cheers!
It was only another layer of falsehood created by the synthetic century we still cling to. Great thinkers always said the apocalypse would be a giant yawn. Young gods must fade as He returns.
This comment should be pinned! Complete truth IMHO.🤘
Dimebag Darrell is what is missing in metal. It’s still tragic he was taken from us way too early but we need that groove again that has become so complacent in metal.
So annoyed I can only like this once haha
Right on. And his brother. Dime and Vin 2 of the greatest metal musicians of all time for sure imo.
Glen seems pretty relaxed here. Perhaps age is catching up a little bit. I met him a couple times back in the late 90's / early 2000's and he always seemed pissed off. lol
Love this podcast, keep up the good work sir.
Deicide just keeps getting better an evolving the new album is amazing probably to date my favourite release of 2024
I like Glen, he seems like a really decent human being when it really boils down.
Digging the Dystopia shirt brother!
I'm from Russia and I heard Deicide from my friend on a cassette tape somewhere in early 2001. His buddy gave him this cassette to listen to. I was interested in the album cover of Once Upon the Cross, and on the other side was Legion. For me it became a discovery in Death Metal genre and I later bought myself an electric guitar and I play till now (not on the first one: ))))). In general me and my friend became ardent fans of Death Metal and Brutal Death Metal. In general Deicide influenced dudes from Russia unknown to them)))))
One time I even bought a ticket to a festival where they were supposed to perform, but they didn't show up. In general, my dream didn't come true, but I still went to see Cannibal Corpse, which is nice.
Cannibal Corpse is awesome!
Great Interview!
i listen to deicide everyday
Amazin'!!!!!!!!!
I listen to Children of Bodom everyday \m/
Metal is in a great place in 2024. Lots of new bands with plenty of veteran bands still around. And with UA-cam I'm able to discover music I never would have heard otherwise.
Check out TNT Metal Meltdown livestream Friday evenings. Great requests, battles, & everyone in chat are cool & hella knowledgable coming from the old school. I find a new banger of a song or band every time.
A agree 100% with YOU
My cd collection is
Always growing every
Month, and it’s been that
Way since roughly 2002.
It’s a great time to be a fan
Of underground extreme music.
Check out Parabellum out of Sacramento...these kids are still in high school and they kick ass 🤘🤘🤘
They’re on point with this.
02:50 -- Seriously, that is a powerful, useful daily kind of attitude to adopt. There was a time when my own constant negativity got on my own fucking nerves. When I cut that vitriol from my life, I actually began to live, rather than simply exist.
New Deicide album is beyond brutal! Need a new Vital Remains album! 🤘
Garza. I hope you are well! Hails from Tampa!
I love Deicide. I always have. I started listening to them on the first album around 1990. I first saw them live on "Legion". That remains my favorite album. I love every album though. I have seen Deicide about 6 times. To me they rule as the best death band.
One of my fondest memories in the 90s being in a deicide moshpit on acid. Best death metal band I've seen.
Why he look like Jack Nicholson a lil bit?
Hairline
Here's Johnny! 👿 🪓
Ever served in a forward area
Great guest love deicide
If youre out there reading this Thank you for the words to get me through the day!
Love Glen ur my idol since i was 17 and now im 32 ty!
Love the new record.
Hate the AI "artwork" cover.
Glen is a real one. I remember getting Legion when it first came out and thinking Deicide were the most evil mfs ever. The esthetic worked 🤘
Best Deicide album ever released! Thanks Glen...fucking awesome
What's missing in metal today i don't know let's see maybe people willing to play metal it's so depressing having too jam to UA-cam and all I want is a drummer that's willing to improvise with my sepultura style riffs too much to ask i guess😭😭
Back in the days people had dreams about becoming something big inspired by Iron Maiden, Mötley Crue, Metallica and Pantera etc.
Kids nowadays have other dreams, they want to be streamers or influencers. Music is not really a dream job for most people.
This aint gonna change, it will probably get worse.
@@BlazonStone lol good to know you're aware of an entire generations ambitions and dreams. Cuz social media exists. Must be why there are no new musicians or young bands.....oh wait.
@@veenoir1991 Of course there are, but not in the same way, the guy in the comment wants to play in a band and explains the struggle he has with it, which I think many can relate to
@@veenoir1991 You sound salty
@@TimmyTurner421 lol sure buddy
I mean, think of how exciting it was with Jerry Lee flying all over his piano, Little Richard with his costumes, voice and fkn soul! in like, 1955! Yup, dig the characters, man😎
Love that is he wearing a Dingbatz shirt! Place is awesome!
Id watch anything deicide. This is so cool.
What really happened, is that between 1996-2012, i wrote lyrics for over 160 bands on the Manson forums and now all my lyrics are all but run out. Facts!
I would say it's the same thing missing in life itself. Originality. Independence. They create a template that sells and then everyone has to rinse and repeat.
The mystique. The spectacle etc
I disagree about being younger or older... It's all about the music. If some old guys put out their first album ever, and it is badass... I'm buying it. I could care less about age. I only care about good catchy deathmetal riffs and songs.
I don't think Glen was necessarily saying it's good or bad to be an older metal guy, just that in his mind at the time he felt he had to be young which is what motivated him
The thing is that young guys are generally wilder, also with their music ideas than guys in their 40s, 50s, 60s. Not always, but mostly.
@TimmyTurner421 I think that's changing, though. A lot of us extreme metal guys are getting older but have not lost any energy or brutality.
When was the last "new" old people band, that was popular???
@@americandiablo @americandiablo I could care less about popular... That's for the mainstream. I only care about good music.
He’s wearing a Dingbatz shirt! 🤘🏻Showing some Jersey love.
Sú to už roky s Deicide , akoby to bolo včera!!!😊
The Abbott brothers. RIP Vin and Dime
metal is in the best spot it’s ever been, the problem are the algorithms they have to subject themselves to
Is this a clip from the interview from last year year that news sites are treating as new info?
Good sound engineering.
Creativity.
Just for starters
Benton consistently rocks great shirts.😊
Go Glen.
Depends how you define metal. Some people think pop bands like motley crue or kiss are metal. I dont even consider iron maiden very metal. They were originally, but got too formulaic.
Where's the Garza podcast clips channel?
It's still there.
Hey guys just got done jamming 😂
Garza reminds me of a famous Native American herbalist called 7Song. He is from Ithaca, NY.
*Waterboy voice*
TACKLIN’ FUEL!!!
Metal used to be dangerous
It was never dangerous. It's just entertainment.
hell yeah! my favorite artist today is Gran for that reason, I'll post a link since I can't spell his last name for shit ua-cam.com/video/qJpGCoZ4dts/v-deo.htmlsi=dOrAqIHzxpw-Xg4q CC is English! Cheers!
Been listening since I was a kid. Never ever saw how music can be dangerous lol
Only christians thought Metal was dangerous. Its just music man lol
I think they may have ment Dangerous ( edgy, pushing the limits ) you know, like calling something “sick”
Remember when bass drums sounded like bass drums? Thats definitely one thing that is missing lol.
Barnes says he's the greatest death metal singer but he ain't a pimple on Glenn's ass. Once upon the cross was my introduction to death metal and it scared me shitless for years but now top 3 death metal bands forever
I agree with Barnes early stuff was too iconic and genre defining Glens vox are no better than similar bands of the time MA, Monstrosity, Cancer etc
@@off6848 top 3 death metal vocals 3 frank from suffocation. 2 Glenn. 1 corpesgrinder. Dude gets heavier every album and he enunciates
@@stevenborrowman9282 I’m not a corpse grinder fan but I would agree on Suffo being top 3
I also like the proto slam gutturals introduced on Disgorge 92 demo cognitive lust of mutilation
Chris sounds like a monster detached from this world with no ability to grasp the concept of what Earthlings call "music" which, in my opinion only, makes him the best. Glenn sounds like a monster but it's a kinder monster who learned music.
Eeeeeeeeeee!
A melody of any kind.
i still have my glen benton for president patch
Me too! \m/
I went from Nu Metal in the 90s to thrash, death metal and now black metal. I got bored of everything but black metal. I still go back to it for some reason.
PERSONALITIES, that old Sex, Drugs and Rock N Roll attitude.
That’s what missing in both Rock and Metal today.
Metal and Metal fans also needs to forget about musicianship when it comes to the Guitar, because no one gives a fuck about how good you can play on your Guitar, except for nerds.
Just make some kick ass songs to groove the fuck out to.
This times a million
@@allwalledupGuitarists nowadays don't know the difference between impressive and expressive
"What's missing in metal today" : The fanbase.
Everything today is rap, hip hop, throw away pop trash and country.
🎯 💯 🎯 💯
0:02 What is missing in metal today is the underground bands (most of them) are not doing the music how they really want to, but having a producer telling them you got to do it this way instead. The band Biohazard said it best in one of their earlier songs -
'Music for you and me, not the F- ing industry'
as a metalfan, its easier for me to talk to rap and pop fans then it is other metal
@@INIGO7gatekeepers ruin everything..
@@foreverunsaved6661One of the best songs of that era. I love that tune.
Very bold words about metal personality and imagery from a musician that uses AI-gernerated cover artwork for his new album
At this point we've seen that most of these classic bands, that were great as teenagers, have no creativity as they are 50 years and old and keep writing the same corny childish lyrics, using terrible album art, terrible production.. etc. I think DEATH should be a guide to all metal bands - Chuck started off singing about Zombies and Leprosy, then grew up and wrote albums like Symbolic and Human. There are very few bands innovating or doing something with a creative vision.
hell yeah! my favorite artist today is Gran for that reason, I'll post a link since I can't spell his last name for shit ua-cam.com/video/qJpGCoZ4dts/v-deo.htmlsi=dOrAqIHzxpw-Xg4q CC is English! Cheers!
BALLS. individuality.
Charisma.
I couldnt name a single metal band that has come out in the last ten years.
I cant tell them apart.
None of them make me crunch up my face or bob my head even.
It all sounds like the same guys plugging into the same computers doing the same thing.
What’s missing?
passion & soul.
Not obsession & upvotes.
I grew up in New Port Richey.
In my opinion Metal in general is in a great place nowadays! There are a ton of bands keeping the old-school alive and well as long with new innovation
Nothing sadder than a 60yo putting out DM? Nah.. DM is a style of like Blues or Jazz and there's always room for more talent without needing to be a young, attractive or stylish.
I’ve always said it myself DM is the blues. People lament sameness but look at blues and jazz there’s standards there’s a method to it and you take it and make it your own
Glen Benton is fucken hilarious.
missing today? own identity. it's all on repeat.
Glen still buds with Bob Larson?
I blame it on god.
The I don’t give a fuck anger. Also, it’s too hard for small bands to find venues that draw people. The 15 to 20 year olds are really messed up socially. My kids got so screwed up from the pandemic that they aren’t comfortable in public or in large groups. 2 years of being cooped up and reliant on the internet did a number on the generation.
Brah Brah!
oopsy a regular cross on Glenn's shirt lol
There are great bands out there but they are harder to find because there is so much more noise these days. Music was different, there is so much more competition these days. We won’t have anyone as surface as Black Sabbath and Iron Maiden any more because the way we consume music has changed.
Benton knows whats up. He made pretty good album like 20 years ago lol
he makes good albums since 1990*
@@Razrbakk then why he give up in 2004?
the whole black metal thing in the early 90s. when that guy from Mayhem murdered the singer and the whole church burnings shit was uncalled for but it was schocking. nowadays its a safe environment in metal music
I don’t think there’s anything mussing in metal nowadays- there’s so much of it, so many different styles and sub genres, so many independent bands and major label bands, thousands and thousands and thousands- anything anyone thinks is “missing” now I can guarantee it’s still out there, might not be famous but it’s still there- everything from back in the day is still there in the old and new bands and there’s a lot more aside of that too..
Fun
Lookin at Glen it’s obvious what’s missing…hair
GlenBenton love it since the first album. But I’m listening to your interview I can remember being in first grade and everybody has a report on something they love or what they wanna do and I chose Def Leppard and it was like 82 I was born in the mid 70s and now I went to the library with everybody and I asked the whatIs that and she said leopard that can’t hear no it’s a bank that’s what I wanna do I was like seven I didn’t have older siblings and they were a lot of garage band in my neighborhood in Medford Lakes New Jersey and yeah you know start it with them and everything I have a yearThey finally told me well where did you get a magazine oh wow yeah you’ll never do that you can’t do that well I just said well I’m not doing anything then like I did and unfortunately you know that teacher got fired but she cursed me out all the time even passed out in her class because she thought I wanted to go to the nurse just to waste time but I got stung by bees in from the first school now I always wanted to be in the business I play the guitar and I love it but I’m sure I am 50 years old when we did get close to a chance my horse addiction screwed me still does to this day even though I’m on Methadone but when you said that about the teachers and everything it took me way back in my one friend who we both just said album came out both of my two closest friends are in heaven one from a brain tumor and one we really don’t know how you want but I’m a big fan and they were too I just want to say thank you so much for the music I couldn’t do it but it was always great playing along to your albums I also love what you did with cannibal corpse vomit the soulThank you you take it easy and always your friend Dave days
My uncle lived next door to Glen in Holiday Florida years ago.
One of my formative show experiences was sitting behind a dive bar listening to a tweaker talk about smoking meth with Glen at a bus stop in the 90s, weird dude
I think there is a universal problem with people raised with the internet. They don’t do anything sincerely. It’s all about chasing trends and being noticed. A similar problem was manufactured by small hat music industry executives in the 80’s saturating the market with hair metal, but that quickly led to a backlash by actual artists through genres such as grunge. The difference now is that the trend chasing is grassroots, it’s the new musicians pigeonholing themselves out of desperation for clicks and likes and shares. Nobody wants to contribute their own voice, they just want to “be the next x.” This isn’t just a music problem, like I said.
Bring back the brothers
the brothers are doing fine where they are
@@TheFujac lair in wait is alright album tho
Once upon the cross is one of the greatest Death metal albums of all time
Metal today is a bunch of screaming, over processed brats.
The best part of death metal is that it will never be mainstream! It's a small club- for members only!
1. Mitch Lucker
2. An edgelord is not scared to truly anger the normies
Wasn’t he going to commit suicide when he was 33?
I would argue that the only genre that is still evolving and changing is metal. The music has become more complex, complicated and is still pushing musical limits and math. All other genres seem to be derivative and most artists sound alike.
Classic death metal has lost
It’s edge and variety because it’s trapped in its own genres definition. 200 stab wounds sounds like every great death metal band, and they’re brand new, death metal needs some variety, that’s why subgenres are being explored more and more, they have the attitude, the talent, the song writing, the look, and they kick ass
Glens receding hairline is MAGNIFICENT! Makes him look like a blood sucking vampire on the prowl!!! DEICIDE DESTROYS!!!! YEEEEEES!!!
Find a way to freeze the thumbs count..
Singers! Vocalists! Unique voices! Not growlers