Aqeedah 38: Ashari

[@makegoodcoffee]

Salam alaykum. I have studied the Ashari aqida in detail. I admire the Shaykh, I like his talks, I have a good opinion of him. I am watching this lecture as I am curious about what the Salafis say about the Asha'ira. There are many errors about Ashari belief in this lecture, as an example; some of the things that the Shaykh ascribes to the Asha'ira are in fact Mu'tazili beliefs. It seems Mutazili belief is being confused with Ashari belief. He also quotes Imam al-Dardir as stating that studying kalam is haram, yet Dardir himself was an Ashari and has a primer on Ashari aqida: Al-Kharida al-Bahiyya. The Shaykh implies that the Asharis do not believe that speech is an attribute of God; however in Ashari belief speech is an attribute of God. The Shaykh says; "The Asha'ira have this idea that there is 2 Qurans." The Asharis do not have any such idea. The Shaykh says; "there was no such thing as the Ashari school before Ashari was born." This is a fallacy. There were no schools of fiqh during the time of the Sahaba; based on that principle we would also disregard the 4 schools of fiqh. There was no Hanbali school during the time of the sahaba, then why would you call yourself a Hanbali? The companions did not refer to themselves as Athari. Then why would you call yourself an Athari? The Shaykh says; "The awam don't know anything about the Ashari aqida," implying that the Asharis are not the majority; but the awam don't call themselves Athari either. I understand that the Shaykh is quoting from some of the books of the Asha'ira, I wonder if he has sat and studied with any Asharis, or if he is just quoting what anti-Ashari people have picked. I know he stated multiple times "I am not saying ALL Asharis", but he also says numerous times; "this is what the Asharis believe," perhaps it would be beneficial to state which particular Ashari's you are speaking of, since many of the things are completely inconsistent with Ashari belief. This is not just me speaking in defence of the Asharis, much of what is being said is objectively incorrect, as one would easily find if they study the Ashari creed. May Allah guide us and keep us all on the straight path, ameen.

[@thekillerphython]

Watch video again, he is saying that there is wide range aqeeda in Ashari Creed and not all of them are wrong. Maybe you have not seen things which sheikh is telling us

[@abuabbas3695]

dont you believe the mushafs we have with us are created and not the words of Allah BUT the one on the perserved tablet is Allah's words and the speech that comes out of our mouths are not the words of Allah?

[@mohamudahmed6554]

Asharis do believe there are 2 Quran:
Al Baqillani said:
“That which is descended, and that which is transmitted from region to region (the Qur’ān), is in reality the statement of Jibreel … The Arabic text we have is an expression of the speech of Allah and is in reality the statement of Jibreel.”
Source: Al-Insaf fima Yajib I'tiqaduh walā Yajūz al-Jahl bih
And yes, this school is named after Abu Hasan Al Ashari. It didn't exist prior to him. There is no fallacy here.
Excuse me, but there were school of Fiqh during the time of the Sahaba. You are acting as if they had 100% agreement on every Fiqh issue. Since they understood the evidence differently, they also had different rulings and did not agree upon everything. This is exactly how every other Ulama who reached the ability to do ijtihad is, they never see eye to eye in every issue.
Now, your analogy about the Sahaba and the 4 schools of Fiqh doesn't even make sense, literally are trying to compare Fiqh to Aqeedah and as if *a new school of Aqeedah is a valid issue* . Abadan,never. Unlike Fiqh, Aqeedah doesn't change nor is it there difference of opinions. This is the entire point:
the belief we have must be the exact belief the Messenger ﷺ taught and the same belief transmitted by the Sahaba to the Tabien and them to the Tabu Tabien. If your Aqeedah is not that, your Islam is in danger.
The 4 Imams and the Salaf were united upon their Aqeedah. It was the Khawarij, Shia, Jahmiyyah and the Mu'tazila that differed and later the Ashariyyah. Issues in Aqeedah can't even be compared to issues in Fiqh.
Now all you did here was try to defend the Ashari belief. You never even attempted to bring textual evidence to refute what Uthman said. All you did was a analogy that is flawed. You don't know the Ashari creed clearly. You should see what you Ulama said and rethink this.
The Sahaba didn't negate Allah's attributes but they took the apparent meaning without likening it to any of Allah's creation. They didn't believe the Quran is created, they didn' believe Iman is simply belief in the heart, but they believed it is speech,action and belief. This is what the Salaf were upon and what the Mutakallimiin differed with them.
Also, the Ashari Ulama repented for example ,Fakhr Al Din Al Razi and Abu Hasan as well. Al Ghazali was among the repenters as well.

[@mohamudahmed6554]

@@makegoodcoffee Ya Akhi you made some big mistakes which show you don't know much. Just stop it and follow the Salaf in Aqeedah.

[@mohamudahmed6554]

@@makegoodcoffee I am against Ashariyyah because the salaf were against it. Using Ilm ul kalam, negating Allah's attributes and names, claiming the Quran is created (yes, Al Baqilani claimed so and many more) is exactly what *the Salaf refuted* . Imam Shafi'i had a very clear views on the people of Ilm. Abu Hanifa, Malik and Ahmad as well. Imam Bukhari and Al tirmidhi have clear statements regarding them as well and the list goes on and on.
So follow the Salaf and you will be fine. Following Abu Hasan's deviated path that he himself repented from is not wise. Fakhr Al Din Al Razi also repented and so did Al Ghazali. Yet you follow their old Aqeedah? Makes no sense.

[@imranchoate]

When among Non Believers i say i'm a Muslim. Among the Ahlul Bidah I say i follow Dawwaatus Salafiyyah. And Amongst the Ashariyyah i say I'm Athariyyah. Madinah Students have taught me in my teens when most of my country is Suffiyah or Ashariyyah muslim . May Allah aza wajjal Guide All Muslims to the Way of the Salaaf us Saliheen!! Ameen!

[@falsesectslikeshiaarejudeo6543]

@Abdul Rehman Shaikh as an ex Ashari I know they only have cut and paste evidence, all 4 Mathhabs are Athari and Imam Ashari himself repented and became Athari so be real!

[@falsesectslikeshiaarejudeo6543]

@Abdul Rehman Shaikh I saw before, in future dont' waste my time sending me the video, just bring the quote he mentioned just about everything he said is 2ndary & wrong. not to mention he lies/errors, he says wala had = wala yad, 20 minutes in. shame... Now let me show you actual evidence...

[@falsesectslikeshiaarejudeo6543]

@Abdul Rehman Shaikh Ayat for Asharis: Qur'an 16 : 74 - So put not forward similitudes for Allah (Like Asharis on Siffat Qabrriya - don't assume resemblance). Truly! Allah knows and you know not. (Leave how / Takyif to Allah - don't Tahrif / reinterpret Allah's Attributes)
Qur'an 2 : 25 - ... Every time they will be provided with a fruit therefrom, they will say: "This is what we were provided with before," and they shall have therein Azwajun Mutahharatun (purified mates) and they will abide therein forever.
Tafsir Ibn Kathir : Ibn `Abbas said, "Nothing in Paradise resembles anything in the life of this world, except in name.''
Qur'an 16 : 60 - For those who believe not in the Hereafter is an evil description, and for Allah is the highest description. And He is the All-Mighty, the All-Wise.
- Links Allah's High description with the belief in hereafter, Jahmi Asharis tatil/denial of affirming Allah's High Descriptions seems linked to their denying seeing Allah which is in the hereafter - Qur'an 75 : 22!
---
Fiqhul Akbar by Abu Hanifah, Point 4 :
**He has a Hand, a Face, and a Self (nafs); the mention that God most High has made of these in the Qur’an has the sense that these are among His attributes,** and no question can be raised concerning their modality (bila kayf). It cannot be said that His hand represents His power of His bestowal of bounty, because such an interpretation would require a negation of an attribute. This is the path taken by the Qadarites and the Mu’tazilites. **Rather, His hand is an attribute, of unknowable modality, in the same way that His anger and pleasure are two attributes of unknowable modality God Most High created things out of nothing,** and He had knowledge of them in pre-eternity, before their creation.
Point 12 : God Most High will be seen in the Hereafter, visible to the believers in Paradise with their corporeal vision. This we say without any implication of anthropomorphism,
2) Malik Bin Anas (d. 179 H.) :
*«Istiwa is not unknown, the Kayf (how) is uncomprehendable, believing in it is obligatory, and asking about it is innovation, and I do not think that you are anything but an innovator.»*
- Al-Asma wa Sifat by Al-Bayhaqi (2/305-306)
Note if the meaning was unknown **then they wouldn't have to say the kayf is not known as well!!!**
3) Imam Shafi'i (d. 205) :
Tafsir Ibn Kathir Surah 7 Araf Verse 54 - As for Allah's statement, and then He rose over (Istawa) the Throne)
*the people had several conflicting opinions over its meaning. However, we follow the way that our righteous predecessors took in this regard, such as Malik, Al-Awza`i, Ath-Thawri, Al-Layth bin Sa`d, Ash-Shafi`i, Ahmad, Ishaq bin Rahwayh and the rest of the scholars of Islam, in past and present times. Surely, we accept the apparent meaning of, Al-Istawa, without discussing its true essence, equating it (with the attributes of the creation), or altering or denying it (in any way or form). We also believe that the meaning that comes to those who equate Allah with the creation is to be rejected, for nothing is similar to Allah.*
*(There is nothing like Him, and He is the All-Hearer, the All-Seer.) ﴿42 :11﴾ Indeed, we assert and affirm what the Imams said, such as Nu`aym bin Hammad Al-Khuza'i, the teacher of Imam Al-Bukhari, who said, "Whoever likens Allah with His creation, will have committed Kufr. Whoever denies what Allah has described Himself with, will have committed Kufr.
4) lmaam Ahmad (d. 241 H.) said,
“These ahaadeeth should he left as they are ... ‘We affirm them and we do not make any similitude for them. This is what has been agreed upon by the scholars.” - 136 Reported by Ibn al-Jawzee in Manaaqib lmaam Ahmad, pp. 155-156
5) Abu Isa At-Tirmidhi (d. 279 H.) said: *“Allah’s Knowledge, His Ability, and His sovereignty is everywhere, and He is on the Throne as He described Himself in.”*
- Al-Jame` Al-Kabir (known as Sunan At-Tirmidhi) (5/327)
6) Abul-Hasan al-Ash’aree (d. 324H) said, “If it is said, ‘Why do you deny that His saying: “Do they not see that We have created for them what Our Own Hands have created.” 164
And His saying:
“Whom I have created with My Own (Two) Hands.” 165 are rnajaaz (metaphorical)?’
To him it is said, ‘The ruling concerning the Speech of Allah, the Mighty and Majestic, is that it is taken upon its dhaahir (apparent) and haqeeqah (real) meaning. **Nothing is removed from its dhaahir (apparent) meaning to majaaz (a metaphorical) one, except with a proof ...**
Bonus :
7) Al-Awzaa’ee (d. 157 H) said regarding the aayaat and ahaadeeth of the Attributes, “Pass them on as they have come, without asking how.” 179
- 179 Sharh Usoolil-I’tiqaad of al-Laalikaa’ee, no. 875. Shaikh Ibn
Uthaimeen (r) said in his Sharh ‘Aqeedatil-Waasitiyyah, pp. 101-102,
after quoting this narration, “And this gives evidence to) the fact that they
would affirm meanings for the Attributes, from two aspects... ( See note under Imam Malik for summary point)

[@anonymoususer8286]

@Abdul Rehman Shaikh You are denying clear evidence and you reply back with ZERO evidences. Yeah, you're a deceiver. May Allah guide you back into believing The Quran and the authentic teachings of the Prophet Saw.

[@asps270]

@@falsesectslikeshiaarejudeo6543 Were u an ashari earlier? I find your comment everywhere🙂

[@lexicallycorrect]

May Allah tabaraka wa ta'ala preserve you upon Tawheed and sunnah.
And save you from the fitan of every miscreants. Ameen.

[@lexicallycorrect]

Love from Mumbai.

[@fifafreebies8941]

---Allah is One (Allah is the ONLY Creator and is not composed of parts, pieces, or dimensions)
---Allah existed before the creations and there was NOTHING ELSE in existence (no light, darkness, time, space, distance, or direction)
---Allah ABSOLUTELY does not need the creations (hence, Allah does not require space in order to exist)
---Allah ABSOLUTELY does not resemble the creations (hence, Allah is not attributed with bodily or spatial characteristics--like, size, shape, form, organs, limbs, motion, stillness, etc.)
If a person does not understand these principles, then there can be no coherent discussion about what does and does not befit the Creator.

[@lexicallycorrect]

@@nsr786ahd8
You are trying to pretend of being a salafi, and you are NOT a salafi at all.
I can make out with your very statement. BarakAllahu feek

[@lexicallycorrect]

@@nsr786ahd8
Please name the books you have in your possession of these ulama?

[@lexicallycorrect]

@@nsr786ahd8
Aqeedatul wasitiyah is one of the core book which depicts the creed of ahlusSunnah wal Jamah.
The person who claim that it holds error is himself batil, and this person doesn't know the creed well.

[@ctraltdel3558]

I benefitted alot from this video. Those modern da'ees and debaters like Adan Rashid and Mohammad Hijab need to see this video.

[@aniiss04]

how do you mean this akhi

[@saad2602]

@Umm Muhammad mohammad hijab is athari tho

[@saad2602]

@Umm Muhammad lemme give u one vid where he debates the asharis. I think he uses philosophy for other stuff but not on the Quran or allahs attributes he doesn’t . m.ua-cam.com/video/1vS1DvnslnM/v-deo.html

[@zainniazi2257]

@Umm Muhammad If you but allow me, I can present my evidence as well.

[@zainniazi2257]

@Umm Muhammad I will try what I can to contact them. Jazakallah khair.

[@king_panda1387]

Watched upto 21 mins so far. Nothing mentioned about actual Ashariy aqeeda so far.

[@Haze_in-bw7ff]

what is is the ACTUAL Ashari Aqedah?

[@nassimcherfi]

السلام عليكم ورحمة الله وبركاته
I can not find the videos number 36 and 37. Any idea where I could find them or they don't exist.
برك الله في كل من ساهم في هته المنشورات

[@thekillerphython]

May Allah give you long life…… you are doing really great work

[@ObaidahNaseer]

🔴 When Imaam Abu Haneefah (Rahimahullah) was asked of his opinion of the one who says i do not know whether Allaah (Subhaanahu wa ta’aala) is above the heavens or on the earth,
Imaam Abu Haneefah (Rahimahullah) said:
He has disbelieved, because Allah (Subhaanahu wa ta’aala) says: “The Most Merciful rose above the Throne”, and His Throne is above His (Subhaanahu wa ta’aala) seven heavens.
He was then asked, what if he said that Allah (Subhaanahu wa ta’aala) is above His (Subhaanahu wa ta’aala) Throne but he does not know whether the Throne is in the heavens or on the earth he said, he has disbelieved. because he has denied that He (subhaanahu wa ta’aala) is above the heavens
[Quoted in Al-Uluww of Adh»Dhahabi, also in Sharh Aqeedah At»Tahawiyyah of Ibn Abi AI-lzz AI»Hanafi]
🔴 lmaam Malik (Rahimahullah) said when replying to the one who asked, ‘How did Allah make lstawaa? (Ascension above the Throne),
Al-lstawaa is Known, and its how is unknown, to have faith in it is obligatory, and to question it is an innovation.” Then he said to the questioner, “i do not think except that you are an innovator” and he ordered him to be expelled.
[Quoted in AI-Asmaa was Sifaat’ Page #.516]
🔴 Imaam Ash-Shafi’ee (Rahimahullah) said:
The belief that I am upon, and I saw Our Companions, the Ashab-ul- Hadith (People of hadith) - like Imaam Malik and Sufvan and others - to be upon is:
Affirming the testimony that none has the right to be worshipped except Allah (Subhaanahu wa ta’aala) and that Muhammad (Sal-Allahu ‘alayhe wa sallam) is the Messenger of Allah. And that Allah (Subhaanahu wa ta’aala) is above His Throne. above His heaven. He comes close to His creation howsoever He Wills, and He (Subhaanahu wa ta’aala) Descends to the lowest heaven howsoever He Wills.
[Quoted in ‘Awn aI-Ma’bood’ (13/41), and ibn Abu Ya’la reports it in ‘Tabaqaat aI»Hanaabilaa‘ (1/283) with a chain of narration linked back to lmaam Ash-Shafi’ee.)
Imaam Ash-Shafi’ee (Rahimahullah) said on another occasion:
“To Allah (Subhaanahu wa ta’aala) belong Names and Attributes that occur in His Book and His Prophet informed to the nation. It is not possible for anyone to refute (radd) them. So the one who contradicts this after the evidence has been established against him then he is a kafir (disbeliever), and as for before the establishment of the proof then he is excused due to ignorance, because the knowledge of that cannot be attained through the intellect. So we affirm these Attributes and we negate tashbeeh (likening Allah (Subhaanahu wa ta’aala) to creation) as Allah (Subhaanahu wa ta’aala) negated it by saying, ‘there is nothing like Him.”‘
[Quoted in ‘Siyar A’Iaam an-Nubalaa’ (10/80)]
🔴 lmaam Ahmad (Rahimahullah) was asked: “Allah is above the seventh heaven, above His Throne. distinct from his creation, and His Power and Knowledge are in every place?”
He (Rahimahullah) replied:
Yes. above the Throne and His Knowledge is in every place
(Quoted in Sharh Usool ilal‘tiqaad]

[@kbayli.jsk1256]

The aahairah dont reject any of the statements u listed

[@AdonisBorn1]

@@kbayli.jsk1256 Some of them say that He does not have a direction

[@kbayli.jsk1256]

@@AdonisBorn1 yes Allah doesnt

[@AdonisBorn1]

​@@kbayli.jsk1256 You said that ashari don't reject any of the above statements but you're denying that Allah is above the heavens and earth

[@kbayli.jsk1256]

@@AdonisBorn1 Imam al-Bayadhi explains Imam Abu Hanifah's statement as follows:
"This is because this person implies that the Creator has a direction and a limit, and anything that possesses direction and limit is necessarily created. So this statement explicitly attributes imperfection to Allāh. The believer in [Divine] corporality and direction is someone who denies the existence of anything other than objects that can be pointed to with the senses. They deny the Essence of the Deity Who is transcendent beyond that. This makes them positively guilty of disbelief."
[Isharaat Al-Maraam]

[@TheWarriorWay]

What happened to episode 36 & 37

[@alligori111]

Create a playlist of all sects aqeeda of Islam in one playlist

[@AzaK154]

JazakAllaah Khair.

[@MasjidRibat]

CYBORG KHAN وإياكم

[@Najat.0]

Jazakumu Allahu ghayran!

[@159blackseedoil]

Sadly, very, very poor research attributing lies upon the Asha'ira. I hope no one takes this lecture seriously.
But MashaAllah, the sheikh is doing a lot of good work in the da'wah scene.

[@liby254]

i took it. Alhamdulliah this Shiekh is very knowledgable, and many other people did/will take this lecture

[@n.a3642]

@---- ua-cam.com/video/4K7oARfWvpo/v-deo.html&ab_channel=ZamZamAcademy
This is a video by a Sheikh who is Ashari. Listen to what he says about his Aqeedah and compare it with what Sheik Uthman said. There are a few differences. I believe the Sheikh exaggerated the beliefs of the ashari.

[@YouOnUsPath]

Right, Ijma Ulama International 2016 in Chechna, ahlu sunnah wal jamaah.

[@thekillerphython]

If this is poor research then please present us the authentic research so we can compare where sheikh is lying ???

[@nafisaahmed9682]

Is the mushaf you have with you and its pages - all of the pages ghayr makhlooq? what about the page from which the pages were made? Just taking the mutazilah and saying they are Asha;ari?

[@hamedkhan4556]

The Quran is the Speech of Allah - the words themselves are uncreated. It doesn’t mean the pages and ink aren’t created.

[@magrayabrar8922]

please upload episode 36, 37 and 50 i am not able to find them here

[@tafreekladh]

at 27:05, imam abul izz is actually talking about the people of kalam, those are the people who were purely philosophical in their beliefs, people ibn sina and others, and imam al gazali and other asharis have refuted them.

[@YouOnUsPath]

IJMA ULAMA INTERNATIONAL 2016 IN CHECHNA, AHLU SUNNAH WAL JAMAAH.

[@farhanshakir9621]

Are class 36 and 37 missing in the playlist or was there a mistake?

[@MrHookahDUDE]

السلام عليكم و رحمة الله و بركاته
Can someone tell what which page he makes tawba in? 15:00
جزاك الله خيرا

[@alfilimbani3153]

MasyaAllah.. Very beneficial.. I wish the Shaikh's notes are written somewhere in websites or can be accessed..

[@fifafreebies8941]

---Allah is One (Allah is the ONLY Creator and is not composed of parts, pieces, or dimensions)
---Allah existed before the creations and there was NOTHING ELSE in existence (no light, darkness, time, space, distance, or direction)
---Allah ABSOLUTELY does not need the creations (hence, Allah does not require space in order to exist)
---Allah ABSOLUTELY does not resemble the creations (hence, Allah is not attributed with bodily or spatial characteristics--like, size, shape, form, organs, limbs, motion, stillness, etc.)
If a person does not understand these principles, then there can be no coherent discussion about what does and does not befit the Creator.

[@azizahmed1093]

Jazak Allah khair Shaikh

[@rickfox804]

15:04 Tawbah from the founder of Ashari

[@ghaiskh3138]

assalamulaikum sheikh
my brother his an ashari but he believes the quran is the speech of Allah

[@saad2602]

@JB Priestley is not

[@fifafreebies8941]

---Allah is One (Allah is the ONLY Creator and is not composed of parts, pieces, or dimensions)
---Allah existed before the creations and there was NOTHING ELSE in existence (no light, darkness, time, space, distance, or direction)
---Allah ABSOLUTELY does not need the creations (hence, Allah does not require space in order to exist)
---Allah ABSOLUTELY does not resemble the creations (hence, Allah is not attributed with bodily or spatial characteristics--like, size, shape, form, organs, limbs, motion, stillness, etc.)
If a person does not understand these principles, then there can be no coherent discussion about what does and does not befit the Creator.

[@OriginalAndroidPhone]

Sh Uthman really is the best teacher

[@abusalamah6821]

Salaam shaykh. I love you for the sake of Allah.
I had a few questions.
How would you answer the allegation that the book is correctly ascribed to Ashari but the current manuscripts are not reliable due to them being written almost 700 years later and there is no sign of مقابلة and سماع?
Also, are there any signs from the statements of Asharis students or his student's students or any historian who has recorded that Ashari had this change in aqida towards the end of his life?
Jazakallah khaira. May Allah keep you well.

[@um9532]

جزاكم الله خيرا

[@t.yousuf6013]

I have listened your explanation about Ashari Aqeedah, however, am afraid that you have made many mistakes on your explanation of teachings of the Ashari Aqeedah. For example, you have said that , Ashairis’ believe that “Allah (SW) is not above the sky” but the correct view of Ashari teaching is “Allah exists with out space and time.” Which is quite difference with what you have said. Ashari said that no direction encompasses Allah(SW), as the direction is a created thing yet Allah existed before the direction is created. Could kindly please give your opinion on this? There are also other mistakes that you make on this topic that
I have observed. Also about what you said about repenting on the Sheikh’s book “Al Ibanah”. He repented from his “Mu utazilah” creed he was following before his correction of the path but not from the Ashari teaching which the Ashari are following now.

[@mugeesa_bint_hamid]

Alibaanah_usool diyanah

[@abual-arqam5353]

Didn't the Hanabilah also believed that the ashai'rah are also part of Ahle Sunnah?

[@jebrilabdulazeez]

Part of the ummah but I don't think they're part of the ahlu sunnah wal jamaa,ah which is the only correct sect. Although they claim to be ahlu sunnah but they don't fellow

[@abual-arqam5353]

@@jebrilabdulazeez
Not sure. But, I.read something to the effect that they are, despite their difference.

[@jebrilabdulazeez]

@@sillybeans929 I don't know about that but what is the use of naming yourself after the right sect but don't fellow in it's aqeedah? If you claim to be from the ahlul sunah you should also follow the sahaba and their followers in everything not just fiqh but also in aqeedah. Remember they're many other sects and groups who coin or use righteous names but in reality don't fellow through it's just a name for them. E.g hizbollah,ahlul bait,shafi,hanafi,Maliki etcetera etcetera.

[@jebrilabdulazeez]

@@abual-arqam5353 I heard from ustaad abdurrahman Hassan saying,"we don't call the ashacira part of ahlu sunnah wal jama,ah but we say ahlu sunnah wal jama,ah and the ashacira ". Check his podcast on the ashacira on al madrasatu al umariyyah channel.

[@abual-arqam5353]

@@jebrilabdulazeez Jazakallahu khayran. Will have a look

[@falsesectslikeshiaarejudeo6543]

What is principles of debate what is evidence? 10 minutes.
Debating upon Quran means following Sunnah, Quran 6 : 89!

[@studentoflife5625]

Wanna know what a real true Salafiy Scholar said? He said “Allah is utterly clear of all boundaries, extremes, sides, organs, and instruments. The six directions do not contain Him, as they contain all created things”. Imam Abu Ja3far at-Tahawiy from his famous book Aqeedah at-Tahawiyyah.

[@tasbirmiah5247]

Mashallah, that is a good book

[@The-servant-of-ALLAH1]

Look at the scholars sayings on that abu al izz al hanafi etc

[@studentoflife5625]

@@The-servant-of-ALLAH1
The Prophet Muhammad ﷺ said “Allah is eternally existent and nothing else is.” So if someone said Allah is in a place is either saying place is eternal with Allah or that after creating place Allah changed and needed the place. Both of these statements would be invalid and constitutes associating partners with Allah.
So the conclusion is that it is a MUST that Allah exists without a place.

[@The-servant-of-ALLAH1]

@@studentoflife5625 mashALLAH show us where you got the hadith brother

[@The-servant-of-ALLAH1]

Narrated Anas:
Zaid bin Haritha came to the Prophet (ﷺ) complaining about his wife. The Prophet (ﷺ) kept on saying (to him), "Be afraid of Allah and keep your wife." Aisha said, "If Allah's Messenger (ﷺ) were to conceal anything (of the Qur'an he would have concealed this Verse." Zainab used to boast before the wives of the Prophet (ﷺ) and used to say, "You were given in marriage by your families, while I was married (to the Prophet) by Allah ****FROM OVER SEVEN HEAVENS******." And Thabit recited, "the verse:-- 'But (O Muhammad) you did hide in your heart that which Allah was about to make manifest, you did fear the people,' (33:37) was revealed in connection with Zainab and Zaid bin Haritha."
Sahih
Sahih al-Bukhari, 7420

[@rahmat9094]

ما شاء الله

[@user-ct4rs6ng6s]

Salam alaikum, i'm looking into aqeedah between ashari and athari. Do you have a book summerizing or maybe explaining in dept regarding athari aqeedah?
Some people also say that i should just stick with the basics, should i do that instead?

[@MasjidRibat]

وعليكم السلام ورحمة الله وبركاته
Here are some important books to study in the subject of Aqīdah: ua-cam.com/video/Nu6OWtnNYsk/v-deo.html

[@user-ct4rs6ng6s]

@@MasjidRibat Thanks, may Allah reward you!

[@ilyaaseen8933]

Kittabut Tawheed and Aqeedah wasityya

[@fifafreebies8941]

---Allah is One (Allah is the ONLY Creator and is not composed of parts, pieces, or dimensions)
---Allah existed before the creations and there was NOTHING ELSE in existence (no light, darkness, time, space, distance, or direction)
---Allah ABSOLUTELY does not need the creations (hence, Allah does not require space in order to exist)
---Allah ABSOLUTELY does not resemble the creations (hence, Allah is not attributed with bodily or spatial characteristics--like, size, shape, form, organs, limbs, motion, stillness, etc.)
If a person does not understand these principles, then there can be no coherent discussion about what does and does not befit the Creator.

[@shuaibmohammedc]

He don't know about Ashari aqeedah

[@hamzaahmed5436]

Sheikh for my sake and dawah to my family do a refutation of ikhwan muslimeen and I realised you refuted qardawi who is from their heads

[@farhanurmiah2635]

thanks

[@foundationsofarabicprogram7174]

السلام عليكم Assalamu Alaikum. Is there anyway to get a copy of your work that your quoting to benefit us who are learning this comparative aqeedah studies. بارك الله فيك يا شيخ

[@tarekt4087]

انا لم افهم الفيديو هل هو مع او ضد الاشعرية؟

[@theelahmed2682]

@@tarekt4087 ضد الأشعرية إن شاء الله

[@tarekt4087]

@@theelahmed2682 هداه الله

[@Ruthlessor]

Wa alaykum Salaam
Wa alaykum Salaam

[@falsesectslikeshiaarejudeo6543]

We call Asharis back to correct way shahada, giving Allah his High description and following the sunnah & stable foundation which even Ashari repented, & which lead to secular colonization & away from their arrogant to the salaf from just like we call the christians back to follow the true Message of Jesus...
Quran 16 : 60 & 64 - For those who believe not in the Hereafter is an evil description, & for Allah is the highest description. & He is the All-Mighty, the All-Wise.
64 . - And We have not sent down the Book (the Qur'an) to you (O Muhammad صلى الله عليه و سلم), except that you may explain clearly unto them those things in which they differ, and (as) a guidance and a mercy for a folk who believe.
We are to speak truthfully & only speak of the ghaib with texts :
Quran 6 : 50 - Say (O Muhammad صلى الله عليه وسلم): "I don't tell you that with me are the treasures of Allah, nor (that) I know the Unseen; nor I tell you that I am an angel. I but follow what is revealed to me." Say: "Are the blind and the one who sees equal? Will you not then take thought?"
~~~
None of Khulab/ Asharis have an isnad for their view, while all Atharis are people of hadith & Isnad, and this includes repentance of Imam Ashari too:
1) Fiqhul Akbar by Abu Hanifah, Point 4 :
He has a hand, a face, and a self (nafs); the mention that God most High has made of these in the Qur’an has the sense that these are among His attributes, and no question can be raised concerning their modality (bila kayf). It cannot be said that His hand represents His power of His bestowal of bounty, because such an interpretation would require a negation of an attribute. This is the path taken by the Qadarites and the Mu’tazilites. Rather, His hand is an attribute, of unknowable modality, in the same way that His anger and pleasure are two attributes of unknowable modality God Most High created things out of nothing, and He had knowledge of them in pre-eternity, before their creation.
2) lmaam Ahmad (d. 241 ] said,
“These ahaadeeth should he left as they are ... ‘We affirm them and we do not make any similitude for them. This is what has been agreed upon by the scholars.” - 136 Reported by Ibn al-Jawzee in Manaaqib lmaam Ahmad, pp. 155-156
3) Abul-Hasan al-Ash’aree (d. 324H) said,
“If it is said, ‘Why do you deny that His saying: “Do they not see that We have created for them what Our Own Hands have created.” 164 And His saying: “Whom I have created with My Own (Two) Hands.” - 165 are rnajaaz (metaphorical)?’ To him it is said, ‘
The ruling concerning the Speech of Allah, the Mighty and Majestic, is that it is taken upon its dhaahir (apparent) and haqeeqah (real) meaning. Nothing is removed from its dhaahir (apparent) meaning to majaaz (a metaphorical) one, except with a proof ...
It is obligatory to affirm two Hands for Allaah, the Most High, in its haqeeqah (real) meaning, not with the meaning of ni’matayn (two bounties of Allaah).” - 168 Al-Ibaanah ‘an Usoolid-Diyaanah, p. 133.
~~~
Salafis don't say Attributes of Allah mean an appendage of limb/body...
Shaykh al-Islam Ibn Taymiyah said: It is well-known that there is no report from any of the Prophets or from the Sahaabah or from the Taabi‘een or from any of the early generations of the ummah to suggest that Allah is a physical entity or that He is not a physical entity. Rather denying or affirming that is an innovation according to Islam. End quote. - Majmoo‘ al-Fataawa (5/434).
(Need to verify quote)
I propose - They, Khulab/Asharis should be nuetral like Ibn Tamiyyah and say we don't say about Allah what isn't revealed & we don't know and affirm what Allah says, following Quran 7 :33 or they open endless shirk & division!
~~~
Direct Evidence Allah is above His Arsh in the Farewell Sermon, Abu Bakr, Abu Hanifa etc.
1. ... I have left among you the Book of Allah, and if you hold fast to it, you would never go astray. And you would be asked about me (on the Day of Resurrection), what would you say? They (the audience) said: We will bear witness that you have conveyed (the message), discharged (the ministry of Prophethood) and given wise (sincere) counsel. He (the narrator Jafar bin Muhammad) said: *He (the Blessed Prophet Muhammad peace and blessings be upon him) then raised his forefinger towards the sky and pointing it at the people (said):" O Allah, be witness. 0 Allah, be witness," saying it thrice.* (Bilal then) pronounced Adhan and later...
source : Sahih Muslim 1218 a - book of hajj/pilgrimage.
2. Aqida Tahawiya on Allah above the Throne (الْعَرْشُ وَالْكُرْسِيُّ
)
وَالْعَرْشُ وَالْكُرْسِيُّ حَقٌّ -
The Throne (al-‘arsh) and the Footstool (al-kursī) are true.
وَهُوَ مُسْتَغْنٍ عَنِ الْعَرْشِ وَمَا دُونَهُ -
He is independent of the Throne and whatever is beneath it.
مُحِيطٌ بِكُلِّ شَيْءٍ وَفَوْقَهُ وَقَدْ أَعْجَزَ عَنِ الْإِحَاطَةِ خَلْقَهُ -
He encompasses all things and He is above it, and what He has created is incapable of encompassing Him.
Prophet Muhammad peace and blessings on him said I am the most blessed salaf for you - Sahihayn!
Salafi Dawa is the path to the Sunna, Quran 9 :100... (Manhaj of Sahabas, 4 mathhabs, etc.)

[@elmazielmazi6203]

If you affirm that allah has a hand then why dont you as some sufis also affirm that allah is everywhere. I mean if you have to take one verse literal the you might as well take all of them literal.

[@TheBlackCaptain1990]

@@elmazielmazi6203 that because u compare Allah like his creation. Nauzubillah. I seek refuge from Allah.

[@elmazielmazi6203]

@@TheBlackCaptain1990 no in fact i dont do that. It is those that says that allah has a shin and hands that are the problem they are the ones who compare allah to his creation (audhubillah). Im just pointing out that there are double standards in some religious cirkles

[@jangofett2666]

Is performing say coin sleight of hands illusions by saying that this is mere trickery and hand tomfollery to entertain considered sihir ?

[@falsesectslikeshiaarejudeo6543]

@@elmazielmazi6203 why don't you capitalize A in Allah, & Quran ayat says Allah's Knowledge & attributes encompass creation if you look at whole context, not cut & paste!
Quran 20 : 46 - He (Allah) said: "Fear not, verily I am with you both, hearing & seeing.
Quran 58 : 7 - Have you not seen that Allah knows whatsoever is in the heavens and whatsoever is on the earth?... He is with them wheresoever they may be. And afterwards on the Day of Resurrection He will inform them of what they did. Verily, Allah is the All-Knower of everything.

[@hakimibnasri3224]

20:34
Syekh not wrong tho, even months ago. The ustadh "aqeedah is not important" still quoting Fakhruddin Ar Razzi in his Surah Al Kahf lecture.

[@abdurrahmanal-ows9251]

Ahle Tasawwuf

[@packfano5]

I have much respect for Shaykh Uthman and although I am not surpised about his opinion on the matter... I am disappointed in the carelessness of this lecture. Many examples he provided were actually arguments against the Mutazili. Most of the negative traits he mentioned could easily be refuted by basic student of knowledge from the Ashari or Maturidi aqeedah. He's Salifiyah and its fine that he disagrees. The issue is the carelessness and the generalizations that were Mutazili generalizations that he pretended were from the Ashari belief. This is quite dangerous

[@kumonkazi7414]

What is ilm ul kalaam. Confusing to me. Can you explain or decipher this phrase please!

[@shahilmk]

Actually it's Phylosophy. Salafi Scholars condemn to learn this even said it's haram to learn it.

[@adamabah6435]

Is generally Philosophical knowledge.
Knowledge of philosophy

[@adamabah6435]

ua-cam.com/video/ESWNy-9uqoY/v-deo.html

[@adamabah6435]

ua-cam.com/video/u8y6GIN95Xo/v-deo.html

[@arahmanftw]

ilm ul kalam is explaining aqeeda topic through philosophy. It's not the authentic way. Salaf forbidden it. In Islam, Philosophy itself in not haram. But ilm ul kalam is haram.

[@fatimafarah2786]

People should ask themselves one question what was the aqeeda of the prophet (SAW)? Was he following someone called Aristotle, Plato or Hassan Al ashari?. When you answer that then you find what will lead you to Allah and make you a companion of the most beloved (SAW ) in jannah. ✌

[@Gazishahchak]

Was he following wahab najdi, ibn taymiyaah??

[@bapabdo4120]

heart brain harmony, a greek philosophy or the UNIty of being???
does Islam means Unity of Allah?
Allah the ONLY HAQ.?

[@nafisaahmed9682]

Imam Abul 'Izz was a strong opponent of the Asha'ari. Which Asha;ari says Allah does not know details .. which Asha'ari does not speak about the Essence and The Attributes of Allah? Even Asha;ari children know this. Abul 'Izz speaks about Asha'aris that are in the extreme and who left Islam. - cannot use these people as representative of the group.

[@aureahaja544]

Assalamu alaikum wa rahmatullahah wa barakatuh. I learned a lot about the lecture. Jazakallahu Khairan Sheikh.

[@tzimisce1753]

"For 300 years, this aqidah was not known to the ummah"
Neither was Atharism, which, if I'll be generous, began with Ahmad Ibn Hanbal.
Mutazilism predates Atharism.

[@The-servant-of-ALLAH1]

Tayb, when the slave women was asked where is ALLAH, did she say “nowhere” or “everywhere” or “not up or down” and whatever these mutazila and ashari say, or did she say “fe al-sama’” like we say? Yep, she said “fe al-sama” which is our athari aqeedah say, we had to name these names after these innovators created their names

[@tzimisce1753]

@@The-servant-of-ALLAH1 That's not proof of Atharism. You clearly don't know anything about the aqidahs if you think they denied the hadith. It's about what it means, because Atharis make God into a creature inside of the creation, whereas the other aqidahs addressed the problem.

[@The-servant-of-ALLAH1]

@@tzimisce1753 you didnt answer me, what did the slave women say to the prophet peace be upon him, then he said “free her bcz she is a believer”. Why are you running

[@The-servant-of-ALLAH1]

@@tzimisce1753 secondly, we say ALLAH is above His creation, so you definitely know nothing about our aqeedah

[@tzimisce1753]

@@The-servant-of-ALLAH1 "Fi" means "In" not "Over". You tried switching the word lol. You're too stupid to talk to me, and you're a pagan, just like Ahmad Ibn Hanbal whom you worship and never question.

[@Drigger95]

Looool my dude skipped Aqeeda 101 and quoting Al-Izz Al Hanafi 😂😂😂😂😂

[@Simsimiyyah]

He really has no idea what he’s talking about.

[@kbayli.jsk1256]

🤣🤣ikr

[@5orcheff536]

Shhhh ya sufi goofy

[@thatmuslimguy6495]

What is your name sheikh?

[@MasjidRibat]

ThatMuslimGuy my name is Uthmān

[@11wasiq90]

Do not do Dhulm Ya sheikh!
When you are teaching about Ashaira you should give examples of imam al Ashari where he was wrong. Quoting Abuliizz al salafi about kafir mutakalemun is not the ashari aqeedah. This is kidhb and buhtaan Ya sheikh!

[@ndricimlusha4107]

Nice. Allah reward You

[@shaharia1591]

Those 62 asharis disliked 😂

[@jamalnasir7395]

Asharis are the true believers, and these atharis are misguided

[@Mj-in5uj]

​@@jamalnasir7395 Atharis and Ash'aris aren't misguided. Only the "Salafis" are.

[@muhammadafiq9525]

Im in malaysia most of us is asyari..
But now we have a few that following sunnah.. And as u know..the one that teach to follow rasulullah they call them wahabi..just because not taqwil of the quran. The asyari a said.. The quran must be taqwil.. Example is.. Whre is Allah.. The quran already said where is Allah azzawajalla is..but the asyari they dont belive that.. They said the word must be taqwil.. They plying with word istiwa arash something like that.. One of the ustaz said kuffur(misguide) one who not taqwil.. Im realy confuse.. Are we following alquran n sunnah.. Or we are follwong asyari tribe.. Realy mad me sad...

[@muhammadafiq9525]

I pray to Allah.. Ya Allah pls guide me to the true.. Alhamdullilah Allah guide me to see this video.. Jazakallah khir sheikh..

[@sharifbinumar7081]

Ashari dari ahlul sunnah.
Cuma orang bodoh salafi cakap ashari dari ahlul bidah lol
Jagan dengar orang salafi nii dengar Ustadh muuu
Ashari dari ahlul sunnah bukan ahlul bidah
Salafi dari ahlul bidah

[@muhammadafiq9525]

Alhamdullilah, moga Allah mengampuni sy dan saudara., sy bersyukur aqidah sy seperti sheikh Uthman dan para Salaf. Lihat lah beliau berdakwah di san diego. Setiap tingkah laku dan bahasa memberi hidayah untuk mereka yg mencari agama sebenar. Jika hnya permulaan perbicaraan dengan perkataan seperti saudara kemukakan sy tidak yakin orang bukan islam mendekati islam. Semoga Allah memberi taufiq dan hidayah kepada saudara mencari jalan yg lurus dan benar..

[@muhammadafiq9525]

Lihat lah video sheikh Uthman berdakwah di san diego di chnel One massages Foundation. Kenali beliau dahulu. Tetapi jika fahaman english saudara masih lemah cari lah ustaz malaysia dan indonesia yg saudara faham..sy cabar saudara berdakwah seperti beliau. Jgn asik duduk Di takuk yg lama asik melebel org dan tidak Membuat kerja berdakwah..

[@muhammadafiq9525]

Satu lagi sy nk pesan lihat lah video beliau smpai habis. Itu pon kalau faham. Sheikh Uthman tidak lagsung mengatakan smua asyari berpendapat yg sama..ini lah melayu bukan nk faham isi kandungan tahu nk melatah sja.. Malu org luar tngok.. Chanel ni untuk yg lbh advance untuk mngenal agama. Bkan asik duk takuk lama asik ikut² apa org kata.. Belajar lah saudara..

[@amth3400]

Can u suggest any urdu book regarding different of aqeeda in ashairah with in them?

[@fifafreebies8941]

---Allah is One (Allah is the ONLY Creator and is not composed of parts, pieces, or dimensions)
---Allah existed before the creations and there was NOTHING ELSE in existence (no light, darkness, time, space, distance, or direction)
---Allah ABSOLUTELY does not need the creations (hence, Allah does not require space in order to exist)
---Allah ABSOLUTELY does not resemble the creations (hence, Allah is not attributed with bodily or spatial characteristics--like, size, shape, form, organs, limbs, motion, stillness, etc.)
If a person does not understand these principles, then there can be no coherent discussion about what does and does not befit the Creator.

[@yooshatarique019]

The deobandi and the Barelvi are ashari maturidi in aqeedah and the ahlul hadees are salafi/athari in aqeedah

[@fifafreebies8941]

@@yooshatarique019 salafis liken Allah to His creation

[@Kakeshii]

@@fifafreebies8941 If I say Allah's hand is not like ours but I Affirm it without a how is that OK?

[@fifafreebies8941]

@@Kakeshii The Quran was revealed in the arabic language so you should affirm the attribute of Yad which is nothing like creation hence not a limb/part of body without how . by doing this you affirm what Allah affirms . by translating yad into hand you have engaged in taweel

[@al_kutahyawi]

37:42 You mean JuWAYNI, not Juhayni 😁

[@adam.bashir]

‎"عshraf al mursaleen" "Sowhawba radilahnhum" "تayeb" absolutely amateur pronunciation mistakes in almost every breath all in the first minute… should i carry on listening to what this guy has to say?

[@Gog3453]

Imam ashari. Codified the aqeedah of the Salaf

[@putnicesaquranom]

17:26
17:40
24:10
39:37

[@qanatabdarrahmanalhanbali]

ما رأيك في تفسير ابن أبي حاتم وتفسير السمعاني؟

[@Mohammed-jf2sp]

هما من تفاسير أهل السنة قطعا ولا شك. إلا أن ابن أبي حاتم مقتصر على الروايات حسب علمي.

[@Aqidahvideos]

how can it be that a ashari is a muslim ashari all people who are denying or making tawil of allah attributes and they pray graves and more

[@tafreekladh]

it is the statement of imam nawawi rahimahullah, that the "ihya is like the quran", you should've also known that after al iraqi, many others also did takreej of ihya, and found the asl of many ahadith that al iraqi wasn't able to find.

[@ReturningRuh]

In defense of Asharis:
ua-cam.com/play/PLkV-tEbsWhdO5M_DZDXzXMDriFD5MJwxf.html

[@MuhammadAli-mz4pq]

The proper term of closet Jahmis is more appropriate.

[@ReturningRuh]

@@MuhammadAli-mz4pq Historically speaking, calling Asharis “Jahmis” is a new phenomenon built on baseless knowledge.
1. Salafis don’t even know what Asharis believe in and frequently misquote their beliefs.
2. Many Ulema of Ahlus Sunnah were Ashari. This includes the likes of Ibn Kathir رحمه الله. One of the conditions of joining Darul Hadith Al Ashrafiyya was affirmation of being Ashari. This is documented as well. Even the Hanabilah acknowledged this.
3. I suggest not commenting without knowledge of actual history.

[@Mrcontrolfreak21]

Shaykh you can’t study math and science without the philosophy of math and science so please explain in detail

[@ibnyasin]

What’s your point?

[@Mrcontrolfreak21]

@@ibnyasin you can’t avoid philosophy obviously

[@ibnyasin]

@@Mrcontrolfreak21 How do you think the sahabah understood the religion without philosophy?

[@Mrcontrolfreak21]

@@ibnyasin I’m not talking about in religion philosophy in general life and fields of work

[@ibnyasin]

@@Mrcontrolfreak21 The philosophy of a subject is not the same as the subject of philosophy. Here we are speaking of the subject of philosophy. Please note, even with the philosophy of a subject, Islam may still oppose it depending on what it promotes. For example, according to Islam the philosophy of science is to know the greatness of Allah.

[@Mrcontrolfreak21]

This is like watching David wood. A compilation of lesser opinions and things they have rejected themselves. Shaykh please redo this and give a fair/honest lecture if you are sincere.

[@justneedlife2001]

Yes, I respect the Shaykh but am disappointed, and I'm not even Ashari myself! But tbh this isn't surprising, even major Salafi scholars in their books have ways of misrepresenting the Ashairah.

[@mohamudahmed6554]

@@justneedlife2001 No, you haven't studied Ash'arism at all. The fact that the Ahl Sunnah from the time of the Salaf until today refute the Ash'aris for the use of Kalam and them quoting the head scholars of Ashaa'irah is sufficient.
So tell me how did the Ash'aris get misrepresented?

[@lexicallycorrect]

Do you associate your self with salafi publications in the UK

[@n.a3642]

I know for sure he doesn't.

[@xenomorphisisdilage472]

He doesn't. In fact, he most likely hates such people, who claim a monopoly on the Saved Sect.

[@n.a3642]

@@xenomorphisisdilage472 well said

[@Gog3453]

The Wahhabis limit Allah to having 2 hands 🙌

[@somahmed123]

Mujassim.

[@osamamanan2723]

Majority is not the authority.

[@uziair]

Lol tell us more about who imam abul izz al hanafi is..his life and works and qualifications to be a point of reference for the things mentioned lol

[@uziair]

@Ahmad i read the book..most copies have a bio of him in the front.
Reason i asked -
Its more a representation of the views of Imam Ibn Taymiyyah (RA) which is fine, and accepted.
Hanafis by and large have rejected it. Not helpful to ignore that fact.

[@ahsinsharif2352]

The wahhaabies say Allaah is a deformed looking human being above the throne going up and down at night while saying "God is not similar to the creation" and they are telling the ashaa'irah to come back to the truth?
They insult the biggest scholars claiming they had issues in their aqeedah. In reality them themselves are misguided and went against what the scholars established.

[@Yugo5300]

Stop lying punk

[@michealal1414]

Wtf u talking bout who the hell u listening to

[@mohammedrahim5085]

A lot of lies in here please research these texts and claims. This is not the aqeedah of asha’irah. Allah forgive those who make false claims against true scholars. Such crazy claims unheard of from ahle sunnah scholars. Shame.

[@YouOnUsPath]

Even well known decendent of prophets Muhammad saw which become ulamma now not againts ashari, its weirds wahhabi lies...

[@contentagious7233]

Alhamdulillah Suma Alhamdulillah i am Muslim and Ashari in creed. Hanbali and salafi believe Allah has got hands like human beings, they believe Allah is sitting on throne and there is some space between Allah and sides of the throne Nauzbillah. These Neo-Salafi believe they are true muslims and rest are Jahanami, khariji, mushrik, bidaati.

[@The-servant-of-ALLAH1]

Believing ALLAH has Hands and is above His throne and all that has been mentioned, your prophet peace be upon him believed it as it is, so did his companions and their students. So what you are choosing the aqeedah of a man who came some ≈300 years after the prophet peace be upon him, and not only that, but he literally forsaken that aqeedah and came back to the way of the salaf. What a shame for you

[@neutral235]

@@The-servant-of-ALLAH1 according to you if He has hands , ears , shin and feet's are they connected to each other or disconnected or does he also have belly ,nose and head etc ?

[@The-servant-of-ALLAH1]

@@neutral235 who said ears?

[@The-servant-of-ALLAH1]

@@neutral235 who said ears and all that stuff. Sadly (idk if youre one of them), but due to ashari people keep imagining ALLAH as a human, they ask these questions you asked. We do what the prophet peace be upon him and the rest of the salaf did, we see an attribute being affirmed, we affirm and move on. No imagining, no interpretation, we believe ALLAH is able to use the correct exact simple words He Wills to describe Himself, and He did with these attributes we affirm.

[@neutral235]

@@The-servant-of-ALLAH1 are they connected or disconnected? and by literal meaning of hand the literal meaning of hand is body limb made of blood and flesh and has fingers which is like his creation so by taking literal meaning you have limited Allah Swt to body limbs and a body and we know that he is not not limited the athari will say yes we take the literal meaning but don't go to details because they also know it's problematic the ashari simply say that it's obligatory to have imaan on firstly clear cut attributes but on the attributes which are not that clear cut and can have problems with our imagination and understanding because there is no one like him we take the words from Allah Swt and have imaan on it but don't take the literal meaning and leave it to Allah I can gave you ijmah of various scholars that the sahaba will leave it's meaning to Allah Swt.

[@over9000pontiacs]

lol he casually "diagnosed" Imam al Ghazali. Only a wahabi literalist could be this dense

[@KandahariHadithLover]

U use Allah ﷻ name Al Wahab as an insult?! Only someone possed by shaytan would do such a thing, evil dog murji kollabi

[@abukarali2966]

So, this guy is telling us that all the great sunni imams like Imam al Bayhaqi, Gazzali, shirazi, ibn Hajar, Nawawi, Ibn Attar, Ibn Kathir, Ibn Salah, Ibn Daqiq al Eid, Shah Waliyullah Dahlawi, Mula Ali Qari, Ibn Abidin, al Iraqi, al Bulqini, Al Shatibi, Al Subki, al Haytami, are not Alhu Sunnah? This is rediculous. This is a sign of the khawarij.
It is like the time when ibn Muljim the khariji thought that he was guided, and that Sayidna Ali (ra) and the sahaba around him were misguided.
This “shaykh” is even mispronouncing the name ash’ari with an “ayn” . Which is incorrect . It is also well known that Abul Hassan al Ash’ari is a descendent of Abu Musa al Ash’ari.
It is also false that Imam al Ghazali was week in Hadith. How can he be one of the greatest Imams of the madhab of Ahl al hadith, the Shafi’iis, and be weak in hadith?
How is it possible that the Uluma of hadith and Madahib, and hadith 99 oercent of them have been Ash’ari/maturidi fir the last thousand years.
This is total misgudance. People should be careful who they take their deen from..
This video is full of falsehoods and lies. Bring the evidence where one Ash’ari, even one said that the events if the Aakhirah are metaphorical. Lies, lies, lies.
Did you know that Sultan, Salahuddi. Ayubi was Ash’ari, that Muhammad al Fatih, the conqueror if Constantniple, foretold and praised by the prophet(saw) and his army were Ash’ari/Maturidi.
How come real Hanbalis like Imam Ibn Rajab al Hanbali, and Iman Safarini never said what this guy is saying about the Ash’aris. This is Khariji insanity. You see its results all around the Muslim world. Open your eyes people!

[@aladdin8407]

Don’t lie , imam ibn hajar, al nawawi , ibn kathir , were not ashari , what a laughable lie , ibn kathir the student and admirer of imam Ibn Taymiyyah is an ashari in his creed apparently!, obviously you haven’t read his tafsir where he obviously doesn’t go with Ashari creed at all ,but it’s not surprising , asharis love shamefully lying about scholars in saying that they are asharis when many of their statements contradict ashari creed , what is also shameful and pathetic is making emotional arguments without providing evidence , asharis disagree with ahlul sunnah on pretty major things , like the names and attributes of allah as well as destiny and the definition of faith , and other stuff
Imam Abdul Qadir al Gilani in his book Al gunyah says that ashari are murji’ah ، in juz number one he says “and the Asharis denied that faith increases and decreases”
He Also says “and these verses and narration showcase that Allah’s kalam is with a voice unlike the voice of humans , unlike what the Asharis said (inward speech) , and allah is the judge of every innovator , misguided misguider”
Imam Ibn Hazm in his book al fasl juz number 3 says that Asharis are murji’ah , and in juz number 4 curses them , and curses ibn fawrak (one of their imams)
Abu bakr al baqilani says in his book al tamhid about faith that it is “the acceptance (belief) of allah , which is knowledge, and acceptance is in the heart” which is irja’a
Al juwainy says the same thing in his book al ershad
Al razi also says the same in his book al muhasal
Imam Ibn Qudamah says regarding Asharis in his book al munadarah fi al quran “and we don’t know anyone of the people of innovation that hide their statements and don’t dare show them except the zanadeqah and asharis”
Al sajzi in his risalah to the people of zubaid talks about lying about one’s faith and beliefs and how it’s something that is similar to zandaqah and then says “Abu Bakr al Baqilani was the one that used it the most amongst them, and he filled his books with praisings of the people of hadith ...........(until al sajzi said) and he (claimed) that there is no disagreement between Ahmad and Al Ashari , and that showcases weakness in religion and little shame"
He also says “the people of sunnah have been trialed after these people (mutazilah) with another people that claim to be from the people of guidance, and they are more harmful than the mutazilah , They are Abu Muhammad bin kulab , Abu Abass al qalansi , and Abu hassan al ashari” and he also says “and many mutakalemeen from the mutazilah and karamiyah wrote exposing the asharis and kulabis , just like they (Asharis and Kulabis) wrote exposing them (mutazilah and karamiyah) , and all of them are against sunnah”
Ibn abd al bar al maliki says “there is consensus amongst the people of fiqh and athar from all the lands , that the people of kalam are people of innovation and deviancy , and are not considered by all to be from the class of fiqh scholars, rather the scholars are the people of athar” narrated in al munadarah by ibn qudamah
Ahmad bin ishaq al maliki said “The people of innovation in the opinion of malik and in the opinion of our school members are the people of kalam, every mutakalem is a person of innovation, wether he was an ashari or not an ashari , his testimony is not accepted, and he is to be exiled and disciplined , but if he insists then his repentance is to be sought”
Narrated in tahrim al nadar fi kutob al kalam by ibn qudamah and by Ibn Abd al-bar in his jami bayan al alm
Muhammad al karji al shafi’ai said “whosoever says: Im a Shafi’ai in sharia and an ashari in creed , We say to him: this is a contradiction, nay it is a apostasy , Al shafi’ai was not an Ashari in creed”
He also said “and many malikis have fallen into the madhabs of Asharis , and this is wallahi an insult and a shame”
In his book al fusol fi al asul
Imam al harawi wrote an entire book called , tham al kalam (vilifying kalam) , which contains many statements against Asharis
Imam ibn mundah says “...and how they lift this world abandoned , vilified , and kicked out from the assemblies and countries , for their ugly beliefs And awful sayings that go against the religion of allah , the likes of al karabisi , al shawat , ibn kulab , al ashari , and their likes , who took argumentation and kalam as their way in allah’s religion” narrated by ibn qudamah in al munadarah
Imam ibn serej al bagdadi says “we don’t say the ta’weel of the mutazilah , Ashari’ah , Jahmi’ah , Mulhi’dah , mujasi’mah , Mushabi’hah , karamiyah and mukayifah , we accept them (names of attributes of allah) without ta’weel , and believe in them without tamtheel , and say : the verse and narration are correct , and believing in them is obligatory, and saying them is sunnah, and seeking ta’weel is innovation” , in juz fi ajwubah fi asuk al deen
Also ibn ragab was a student of ibn al qayyim and ibn abd al hadi , both of which are students of Ibn Taymiyyah, and has extensively praised them both in his book dayl tabaqat al hanabilah , so I don’t think he’ll agree with your likes very much , just a snippet of the long praising he gave Ibn Taymiyyah says
“He gave victory to the pure sunnah , and the salafi way” , and we all know how much imam ibn Taymiyyah refuted Asharis
And lastly, why is lying so intrinsic to people like yourself, 99% of scholars were asharis or maturidis? Provide evidence for this claim , or else you’re a liar
Also imam ibn qudamah says “and what is astonishing is that people of innovation always use their large numbers as evidence, as well as the amount of their wealth , prestige and exposure , and they use the few numbers of the people of sunnah , their weakness and strangeness as evidence against them, so they end up giving us what allah’s messenger said is a mark for truth , and the sign for al-sunnah exposes falsehood , for allah’s messenger told us that the people of truth will be few near the end of times and strange , while the people of innovation will appear and increase”
So even if we assume the magical 99% lying number , it still proves nothing , but we won’t assume anything , because you cannot prove that asharis and maturidis were 99% of our scholars , not even near that

[@abukarali2966]

@@aladdin8407 you can copy and paste all you want, but denying that 99.9 percent of them are Ash’ari Maturidi. all the Great commentators on Qur’an, hadith, and every other science of Islam are Ash’ari/Maturidi. Denying this is is like denying the sun. The whole world know that Imams, Nawawi, Ibn Hajar, and Ibn kathir are Ash’aris.just read their works. Vast vast vast majority of narrators of hadith, and all the great commentators of Bukhari and Muslim are well known Ash’aris and Maturidis
You want to live in delusions and lies..

[@aladdin8407]

@@abukarali2966 well actually Most of these were not copy and pasted , but lying does really seem to be inseparable from people like yourself
I quoted great scholars of islam , who all said that asharis are either innovators / murji’ah / misguided, I’ve brought evidences from ashari texts with their sources so you can literally go and check yourself, and see that they are literally doing irja’a in their writings , but you didn’t, instead you want to keep spouting nonsense which exposes your clear lack of knowledge , I guess I have to ignore all these great scholars and all these texts from asharis and believe an ignorant person from the internet
Surah baqarah verse 111 (Say, "Produce your proof, if you should be truthful.)
Produce the proof that 99% of scholars are ashari and maturidi , this is such a pathetic delusional lie which you will not and could not produce evidence for
And reading imam al nawawi , ibn hajar and ibn kathir’s works is exactly why I’m saying they’re not ashari , but I’ll educate you no problem
Imam ibn kathir says in his tafsir of surah Al Araf
“(and then He rose over (Istawa) the Throne) : the people had several conflicting opinions over its meaning. However, we follow the way that our righteous predecessors took in this regard, such as Malik, Al-Awza`i, Ath-Thawri, Al-Layth bin Sa`d, Ash-Shafi`i, Ahmad, Ishaq bin Rahwayh and the rest of the scholars of Islam, in past and present times. Surely, we accept the apparent meaning of, Al-Istawa, without discussing its true essence, equating it (with the attributes of the creation), or altering or denying it (in any way or form). We also believe that the meaning that comes to those who equate Allah with the creation is to be rejected, for nothing is similar to Allah”)
He also says in his tafsir of surah al araf
“((There is nothing like Him, and He is the All-Hearer, the All-Seer.) : Indeed, we assert and affirm what the Imams said, such as Nu`aym bin Hammad Al-Khuza'i, the teacher of Imam Al-Bukhari, who said, "Whoever likens Allah with His creation, will have committed Kufr. Whoever denies what Allah has described Himself with, will have committed Kufr. Certainly, there is no resemblance (of Allah with the creation) in what Allah and His Messenger have described Him with. Whoever attests to Allah's attributes that the plain Ayat and authentic Hadiths have mentioned, in the manner that suits Allah's majesty, all the while rejecting all shortcomings from Him, will have taken the path of guidance.'')”
In his tafsir of surah taha he says
“(The Most Gracious Istawa over the Throne.) : A discussion concerning this has already preceded in Surat Al-A`raf, so there is no need to repeat it here. The safest path to take in understanding this, is the way of the Salaf (predecessors). Their way was to accept that which has been reported concerning this from the Book and the Sunnah without describing it, reinterpreting it, resembling it to creation, rejecting it, or comparing it to attributes of the creatures. Concerning Allah's statement)”
Imam ibn kathir clearly rejects the innovated ta’weel of the asharis and maturidis and himself says “we follow the way that our righteous predecessors took in this regard, such as Malik, Al-Awza`i, Ath-Thawri, Al-Layth bin Sa`d, Ash-Shafi`i, Ahmad, Ishaq bin Rahwayh”
In al bidayah wal nihayah page 7131 ibn kathir says “and the jahmiyah say that the Istawa’a over the throne is istila’a (meaning figurative/metaphorical) , and they use the verse of al handal which praises ibn marwan and says:
Bishir istawa over iraq.......without a sword or spilled blood)” and then he refutes them
Al juwaini literally makes the same claim as jahmiyah using the same verse in his book al ershad
He says:
“we say that what is meant by al-istawa is conquering , prevalence , and height , just like the saying of arabs that a person took over a kingdom (istawa) meaning he became haughty over it and it was given to him , and from it was the poet who said
Bishir istawa over iraq.......without a sword or spilled blood)”
Also Al gazali again makes this claim using the exact same poem
Bishir istawa over iraq.......without a sword or spilled blood
In his book al Iqtisad fi al itiqad
Imam ibn kathir is literally saying Jahmiyah are making this claim and using this poem verse to substantiate it , and Al juwaini and al Gazali , who both are one one of the most prominent ashari scholars are making the exact same claim as jahmiyah using the exact same poem word for word
Also If you are educated then you ought to know that this claim of istiwa’a meaning istawla (I.E Figurative / metaphorical) is also made by other ashari muta’awila Like abu bakr al baqilani in his book al ensaf
So imam ibn kathir rejects ta’weel and says that saying istawa is istawla and using the verse of ibn handal is a claim jahmiyah make, and this claim was made by al gazali and al juwaini, may allah forgive them
Ibn kathir in his tafsir also said that faith is an utterance of the tongue , actions by the hands and belief in the heart , and said that it increases and decreases, which fundamentally contradicts many ashari scholars, like abu hassan early on before he repented , and al juwaini , al baqilani , Al razi and others
Also in al bidayah wal nihayah juz number 10 , ibn kathir heavily criticizes kalam and cites quotations stating that people of kalam should be beaten
How in your delusional uneducated mind can a man who is citing a quotation about how people of kalam should be beaten be an ashari, Are you insane!
He Literally says in the beginning of al bidayah wal nihayah , the literal first page , that Allah created adam with his own honored hand
And you’re telling me to read his works? What a liar
Or are you going to tell me that asharis believe that allah has a hand now? And lie again?
Imam al nawawi and ibn hajar their case is a little different, because they made mistakes , notably like doing ta’weel for some names and attributes, and delusional asharis , who are desperate to claim any scholars they can to their sect, immediately use that to claim al-nawawi and ibn hajar are ashari , trying to hide and ignore the fact that the difference between asharis and sunnis is much bigger than ta’weel , and just because a person does some ta’weel that doesn’t mean he agrees with other crucial ashari doctrines , let’s see if imam al nawawi and ibn hajar do or not
Ibn hajar says that the first obligation upon the mukalaf being al nadar is mutaziliyah creed which remained in asharism in fath al bari 13/394 , he literally cites a main ashari doctrine calling it a remanent of mutaziliyah ، he also denies the ashari creed held by many that faith is just an utterance of the tongue and the acceptance in heart , and affirmed works to be part of faith , and that faith increases and decreases , going against ibn fawrak , who said that our faith doesn’t increase or decrease in his book sharh kitab al alm wa al mutaalim
Ibn hajar affirmed that it increases and decreases and that this was the belief of the salaf and that the people of kalam disagreed with them in this matter (fath al bari 1/61) , despite making mistakes in certian areas , he is clearly contradicting ashari doctrines
He also disagreed with them on destiny (qadar) and their theory of kasb fath al bari 1/145
So after all these disagreements with ashari doctrines he apparently is still ashari? Don’t lie to yourself
Imam al nawawi is virtually similar, he also made mistakes , most notably doing ta’weel , but he disgrees with asharis on faith , destiny , and the first obligation upon the mukalaf
In the end you didn’t respond to any previous statement I’ve made with all the great scholars who said what they said about asharis , just shows your weak hujjah
Lastly Imam ibn Mibrid (born 840 ah) in his response to Ibn asakr , says that there are thousands upon thousands (more than 10 thousand as he says) of scholars that are not ashari , from the beginning of ashariyah all the way to his current time
Let us also not ignore al Maqrizi who said in his magnum opus of history al Khitat al Maqriziyah that the ashari madhab was forced upon people during the reign of al qaysi over the muwahedon state , killing countless people only allah can count, and that is why the ashari madhab spread so much in that region
It shouldn’t be difficult after seeing this for one to leave and desist from this kalam madhabs of innovation and follow the way of the righteous salaf, which is what we should all do

[@abukarali2966]

@@aladdin8407 we are not going to argue about who is Ash’ari and who is not. That is common knowledge, and even Wahhabi with a bit if knowledge and honesty would attest to what I have said with regard ti that.
I challenge you to show the tafsir of Istiwa in Kitaab of Imam Ibn Khathir to a Wahhabi who knows Wahhabi aqida, without mentioning that it is From Ibn Kathir, I promose you he will scream “this is Ash’ri falsehood”.
Your problem is that you can not separate between true Athari/Hanbali aqida and Wahhabi tajsim/Tashbih. Read the aqida of Imam Ahmad Ibn Hanbal in the Tabaqat al Hanabilah and you will be shocked how much it resembles the Ash’ri formulation of Sunni aqida. But, you need to know the basics of aqida.
It is obvious that your knowledge of Ash’ari/Maturidi aqidah comes from Wahhabi propaganda pamphlets and UA-cam videos.
Please read about Istiwa in any Ash’ari tafsir and see how it compares to Ibn Kathir., the real Ibn Kathir, not the Wahhabi edited version that you copy-pasted, here is the real one:
Then He did Istawa (As it befits His Majesty) upon the Throne"} People have "TOO MANY POSITIONS ON THIS MATTER AND THIS IS NOT THE PLACE TO PRESENT THEM AT LENGTH" [فللناس في هذا المقام مقالات كثيرة جداً ليس هذا موضع بسطها] On this point, we follow the position of the righteous early Muslims (Salaf) i.e. Imam Malik, Imam al-Awza‘i, Imam Sufyan ath-Thawri, Imam Layth ibn Sa‘d, Imam ash-Shaf’i, Imam Ahmad bin Hanbal, Imam Ishaq ibn Rahawayh, as well as others among the Imams of the Muslims, past and present-(namely) "TO LET IT PASS AS IT HAS COME WITHOUT SAYING HOW IT IS MEANT"[، وهو إمرارها كما جاءت من غير تكييف], without any resemblance (to created things), and without nullifying it (wa la ta‘til):"THE OUTWARD (LITERAL)" meaning that comes to the minds of anthropomorphists is negated of Allah[والظاهر المتبادر إلى أذهان المشبهين منفي عن الله] for nothing created has any resemblance to Him: {"There is nothing whatsoever like unto Him, and He is the All-hearing, the All-seeing" (Qur’an 42:11)} [Tafsir Ibn Kathir Under 7:54]
Wh is lying, now!!!

[@aladdin8407]

@@abukarali2966 I see you still insist upon lying and playing ignorant , buddy I’ve shown you texts from major ashari scholars that say istiwa is istawla , and ibn kathir saying the exact opposite and following the madhab of the salaf
Don’t play dumb or blind , I’ve shown you how imam ibn kathir , al nawawi and ibn hajar disagree fundamentally with asharis and you didn’t and wouldn’t respond to any of this
You instead lie and lie providing no evidence at all , a blind man would recognize the clear cut contradictions between innovated ashari doctrines and imam ibn kathir’s tafsir , I’m going to do this and educate you again
Sunnis and Asharis fundamentally disagree on many issues
1-faith and definition of faith:
-sunnis say that faith is utterance of the tongue , belief (acceptance) of the heart , actions of the hands , it increases and decreases
-Asharis differ , many are murji’ah , they say that faith is merely utterance of the tongue and acceptance of the heart like al bijuri , and others like ibn fawrak say it doesn’t increase or decrease , same goes for Al Ashari before he repented, Al Juwaini , Al baqilani , Al razi , while others Like Al qalansi , agree with sunnis
2-names and attributes of allah:
-Sunnis affirm all names and attributes of allah , including the face , hands , eyes , being above the heavens and his throne ,All in the way that befits his majesty without likening allah to his creation, we do not deny his names and attributes nor do we change them, we affirm their meaning and do not go into their mechanisms
-Ashari are two sects , the first does ta’weel , or Tahreef, where they change allah’s names and attributes, saying that eyes means care , hands mean ability, even though these innovated meanings sometimes put the ayats into incoherencies , they deny that he is above the heavens and his throne, and say that anyone who says that is a mujasim (sometimes disbeliever) ,
the other sect is mufawidah asharis , who deny all known meaning to these names and attributes making them meaningless
3- destiny:
-sunnis believe that allah has decreed everything and created everything including our actions, but undoubtedly we have free will and can choose between these actions that allah created , but our decisions are all under allah’s will and power
-Ashari are jabriyah who render the free will of the individual worthless / nonexistent, as Al razi says (The slave is forced in the image of having free will)
4- seeing allah on the day of judgement:
-Sunnis say the believers will see allah above them like they see the moon (as allah’s messenger peace and blessings be upon him said)
-Asharis say the believers will see allah but not above them , and not in any direction
5-allah’s speech:
-Sunni say that allah speaks with letters and a voice , whenever he wills , and the quran is his kalam uncreated
-Asharis deny that allah’s speaks with a voice and letters , making allah mute (exalted is he above their lies) , they say that the quran is his inward speech (speech within himself), also some of them were essentially mutazilah , who said that our utterances of the quran are created meaning the quran we read is created and that the Quran which is the inward speech of allah is the one which is uncreated ، which is what al bijuri says in his sharh jawharat al tawhid
6-usage of alm al kalam:
-Sunnis see kalam as haram in islam , read Tham al kalam by imam al harwi , and tahrim al nadar fi kutob ahlul kalam by ibn qudamah , which contains many citations from the salaf against kalam , and I’ve already previously cited few
-Asharis obviously study , learn , love and glorify alm al kalam
7-first obligation upon the mukalaf:
-Sunnis believe that the first obligation is tawhid / shadah (worship of allah)
-Ashari again differ:-
Al Ashari says the first obligation is knowledge of allah and his oneness narrated in sharh al jawharah ,
While al baqilani in al ensaf says is Nadar ,
and al juwaini in al ershad says it’s Qasd to do nadar
Al juwaini explains nadar as “arranging two known things to reach by arranging them an unknown knowledge”
So these are 7 major differences in creedal matters between sunnis and asharis
Also are you this ignorant or just pretending? Tabaqat al hanabilah was written by imam Ibn Aby Yala’a , who also wrote another book called al Itiqad الاعتقاد
In al itiqad He says “The people of innovation and misguidance must be abandoned like the mushabihah , mujasimah , Ashariyah and Mutazilah”
You just used tabaqat al hanabilah as some type of point while the author of the book imam Ibn Aby Ya’la says that Asharis are people of misguidance and innovation, how embarrassing is that? You just exposed yourself , okay answer this, do you agree with him?
Read kitab Tham Al kalam by imam al harwi al hanbali and read what he says about Asharis , read ibtal al tawelat by ibn yal’a al hanbali and see what he says about asharis , also read kitab al munadarah fi al quran by ibn qudamah al hanbali and see what he says about asharis , read Al gunyah by Imam Abdul Qadir Al Gilani al hanbali and see what he says about asharis , read Ibn Mibrid al hanbali’s response to Ibn Asakr and see what he says about asharis , read the works of imam Ibn Taymiyyah and imam ibn al qayim and see what they say about Asharis , and I can go on
Are all these people wahhabis? Your response in truly laughable, you are clearly not educated in this issue and have been brainwashed, everything I’ve said I’ve substantiated , you haven’t, you have no argument

[@abdisheikh6175]

brother, if you are muslim why do you lie about islam and the muslim scholars of early generation. ? imam ashari defended the ahlusuna aqeeda and the salaf aqeeda, he taught and wrote. it is not his ideas. imam bukhari rc wrote, defended and taught the hadiths. it is not his ideas. it was named after him to preserve the books and to know who who wrote. likewise is imam ashari rc.

[@technologynerdd1763]

🤣

[@mobrown7751]

Name one Athari warrior the likes of Salahuddin Al Ayuubi, Muhammed Al Fatih, Omar Al Mukhtar, rahimhu'Llah Ijmaain, or one scholar you can compare to Imam As Suyuti, Imam al Jawzi, Imam al Nawawi rahimhu'Llah Ijmaain, you cant so keep your mouth closed.

[@mohamudahmed6554]

Well Imam Nawawi wasn't Ashari and in fact, he was against it.
And name scholars better than them? The salaf, the first 3 generations were the best and they specifically refuted Ashariyyah,Jahmiyyah, Mu'taziliyyah..etc.
Comparing Suyuti to any of the Salaf? Damn.

[@MuhammadAli-mz4pq]

Go to knowledge north channel and watch his playlist regarding history.

[@kbayli.jsk1256]

​@@mohamudahmed6554 imam nawawi was definitely ash'ari dont lie

[@mohamudahmed6554]

@@kbayli.jsk1256 He wasn't, Al Nawawi rejected some methodology of the Ashaa'irah so how can he be a Ashari?
No need to claim him. Ash'aris have a complete well known creed. The one that disagrees with some of it *can't be labeled as a Ash'ari* .

[@kbayli.jsk1256]

@@mohamudahmed6554 It seems yk what your talking about🤣🤣, how about we discuss it in a better chat environment like on messages, discord or sum

[@outlawz10thuglife]

These salafies are confused and are confusing the masses

[@aunthegeek5788]

Wahabis down bad lmao

[@AsharietenNederland]

Disgusting. The great scholars of the Ummah where all Ash’ari. And the flesh of the scholars are poisoned. On the Day you will be asked by An-Nawawi, Ibn Hajar, Ar-Razi, Al-Ghazali, Al-Baqillani, At-Tabari, As-Suyuti and many other scholars why you said that, in front of Allaah. You have time to repent and do your research. May Allah guide you.

[@hamzaahmed5436]

If you did YOUR RESEARCH you will come to conclusion that at tabari was from the salaf and therefore born hundreds of years before Abu Hassan Al ashari🤣😭🤣😭🤣😭🤣🤣

[@AsharietenNederland]

@@hamzaahmed5436 You clearly are not a sharia-student. It doesn’t matter. Shayk Abu Al-Hassan Al-Ash’ari is an imam of the Salaf, like imam At-Tabari. There is no difference. Just that imam Al-Ash’ari was specialized in ‘Aqeedah-science and Kalaam-science. He was the greatest Aqeedah-scholar of his time.

[@hamzaahmed5436]

@@AsharietenNederland if you did ur research Abu Hassan ashari came in the 4th century after the salaf and tabari came before him furthermore look at what salaf such as shafiee about ilm Kalam and how they should be dealt with it will shock you forget just shafiee the ijma of salaf about ilm kalam

[@AsharietenNederland]

@@hamzaahmed5436 HAHA the whole of Ahlu Sunnah agrees that imam Al-Ash’ari and imam Al-Maturidi where of the Salaf. And the scholars of Ahlu Sunnah agreed that Ilm-al-Kalam that doesn’t defend the Sunni creed is rejected. That which defends the Sunni creed is allowed, and sometimes waajib, as Imam Malik said, narrated by Qadi ‘Iyaad. Throw the Wahhabism Kharijism away my friend. It’s just internet-islam of the corrupt Saudi. Go to the scholars with the asaneed to our beloved Prophet صلى الله عليه وسلم.

[@hamzaahmed5436]

@@AsharietenNederland 1. Tell me what salaf is to you. First 3 generations so tell me if the 4th generation goes within the first 3 generation
2. Go and look at what the salaf said about ilm al kalam and bring the evidences with you. Unfortunately I haven’t memorised these statements
3. Bring ur evidence of imam malik since you now made a claim of him
I won’t respond anymore and waste my time talking to a person of a corrupt manhaj and I will give you what Imām Al-Shāfi’ī said:
Whenever any people of desires (heretics) came to Mālik he would say to them, “As for me, I am upon clarity as regards my religion. As for you, you are a doubter, go and argue with another doubter like yourself.”
Al-Dhahbī in Siyar A’lām Al-Nubalā’ under the biography of Imām Mālik
As advice. Look and act on the statemnts of the salaf cuz you mention salaf so bring their quotes

[@King-gx1jt]

Salafis making things up. You are not like the classical atharis, you practise tajseem, which is an extreme sin.

[@MasjidRibat]

Can you show where we practice Tajseem? We are upon the path of the Salaf الحمد لله and you are just as the classic ahlul Bidah were of the past making unfounded accusations of tajseem against the Atharis.

[@MasjidRibat]

Abdullahi Musa tell the truth .. did you actually read the book Fatāwa Ibn Uthaymīn fī al-Aqīdah? Or are you cutting a pasting with no regard to what Shaykh Ibn Uthaymīm actually said? Interesting in your supplication you left out Atharīyyah .. you are just filled with partisan hate

[@MasjidRibat]

Abdullahi Musa See what you are doing it taking online snippets and letting it fuel your partisan blindness

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Abdullahi Musa wait did you say Ibn Kathīr was Asharī?

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When bida Imams agree w/ Salafis its on texts, & they disagree opposing Quran & Sunna! Ghazali admits a difference w/ Tawhid Rububiya/Lord (Allah's Actions) & Ulluhiya/God (our actions for Allah) citing Quran 31 :25, but his error on Isitwa is akin Firaun's in Quran 28 :38!
A)
Quran 31 : 25 -
And if you (O Muhammad صلى الله عليه وسلم) ask them: "Who has created the heavens and the earth," they will certainly say: "Allah."
(Allah's Lordship or Rubbubiya are related to His actions - my addition)
Say: "All the praises and thanks be to Allah!" But most of them know not.
(Allah's Ulluhiya or Godhood is related to our actions/ revealed worship - my addition)
He himself even says :
"The prophets - peace and blessings be upon them - were, therefore, sent in order to call the creation to the Oneness, that they may say, “There is no god (to be worshiped - my addition) except Allah.” They were not, however, commanded to say, “We have a god and the world has a god (should say Lord - my addition),” because such a thing is inborn in their minds from the time of their birth and in the midst of their youth."
Summary : Lord = Creator, God = One served!
B)
When Gazali errors on Istiwa (principle viii)
He sites, Qur'an 41 : 11 - Then He rose (Istawa) towards the heaven when it was smoke, ... - the word "towards / ila" & "over / a'ala" isn't the same.
He says "This is only through dominion and power" and in denying the actual Istiwa he imitated the error of the Firaun.
Qur'an 40 : 37 - "The ways of the heavens, and I may look upon the Ilah (God) of Musa (Moses): But verily, I think him to be a liar." ...
C)
Ghazaali even contradicts Mutazali/ Asharites on Ruya ( as does Abu Hanifa in his work Fiqhul Akbar):
"Would that I knew how the Mu’tazilites knew the attributes of Allah that Moses himself did not know; or how Moses asked to see Allah when seeing Him was impossible!"
(as does Abu Hanifa)
Again when Imam's who error agree with the Salafis its based on evidence and when they disagree, they disagree with Quran and Sunnah...
As he himself states in principle ix : " Ignorance is more likely to be rampant among heretics and sectarians than among the prophets" ( peace & blessings be upon them).
How to use internal dawa, show the superiority of your salaf and then show its the origin and then show why their dawa is unhealthy.... if we don't use our dawa as basis and just use internal dawa without basis to the point we replace our own which is why studying Aqida Manhaj is important, we end up like mutazliahs valuing man made ignorance over din , may Also show inferiority complex, and man made ideas create blind division.

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This is pure Wahhabi ignorance, the khawarij of our day!!!

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You lied so much. May Allah forgive and guide you and us.
What else do we expect from a muqalid of wahabism.

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