Harbor Freight Quinn digital angle torque wrench vs. Snap on Tech Angle wrench
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- Опубліковано 17 вер 2024
- Harbor Freight came out with a new digital angle torque wrench! I could not believe it when I read it I had to check it out for myself! I currently use a Snap on Tech Angle wrench which is great but I only have it in 3/8 drive not 1/2 inch drive. Will the Quinn brand get the job done!? We will find out on this Nissan 5.6 head torque procedure.
You just made the case for the multistep torquing procedure. At first, the different Nm readings at 60ish degrees made me think the Quinn was "off". Then I realized that each bolt stretches differently thereby producing slightly different clamping force and requiring slightly different torque. Interesting video. Thanks.
I did not mention it in the video but something I should have was they were new head bolts and the bolts were lubricated.
was debating on getting these wrenches or not, I wasn't aware that it also had the angle sensor. Now I'm definitely buying these. thanks!
I just got an Icon 1/2" digital torque wrench that does angles with a 12.5 ft*lb to 250 ft*lb range at Harbor Freight. It has a flex head, a backlit display with beeps, vibration and flashing LEDs to indicate target torque. It also has a bunch of programmable settings that I like and is solidly built. I got it on sale for $280 and for that I think it is a great buy.
Love the video, but I thought it was funny how he is using a new fancy digital torque wrench on a (customers?) head without reading the instructions.
Yes, customers truck. Its cylinder heads on a nissan titan not a fuckin space shuttle. Actually doing some suspension work on that truck today, engine runs like brand new still.
@@AutoRepairTips good stuff I know it’s not rocket science it was just something that made me laugh. I just bought this torque wrench a couple weeks ago and used it to do a head job on a family members Toyota Celica. I love the thing, but I agree it would have been nice to have a vibrate function like the other brands.
@@tanker242 wish it had a flex head too
Remember.. Torque angles are used because torque values can differ between holes, wrenchs and people. But 70 degrees is 70 degrees if it takes 100ft lbs or 12fl lbs. It helps torquing to be consistent.
But 70 degrees is 70 degrees if it takes 100ft lbs or 12fl lbs. It helps torquing to be consistent.
...because 100 ft lbs and 12 ft lbs is the same and that is what consistent means
@@johnlockesghost5592 Might've been an exaggeration, but if you use some kind of assembly lube vs. just a dry bolt, and then maybe a bolt that had a little rust on it, all three would require different torque specs to deliver the same clamp load. Using rotation would eliminate that variable.
.. this was hilarious... and I actually learned about the tool by watching trial and error.
I had that exact same Snap-On digital torque wrench. I regret the day I sold it. It ran "about" $450 at the time. The new generation are about in the $650 range (Snap-On/Matco). I don't have need for one that often, so I bought the Harbor Freight version. Right off the bat, I did not care for the battery compartment door/cap. It seemed too fragile. It does the job, though. It does help to paint/mark the head bolts before torqueing. I get sooooo many interruptions while trying to torque cylinder heads that I can easily loose track. Take the batteries out when storing and buy a "clicker" style wrench for doing lug nuts all day on tires.
650 for a digital torque wrench?? I will stay with the click style lol
@@joelopez40oz23if your not building a engine or replacing gaskets lol😂😂😂
The snap on use the 936 series 36 tooth ratchet head. All Snap on used that before the Dual 80 system came out. The 936 are great ratchets BTW, now sold as Williams
What the hell happened to just saying torque head bolts to 70 foot lbs
From what i understand modern torque to yield (TTY) cylinder head bolts have an inital torque spec then angle spec because its more accurate way of clamping the head down vs using only torque as spec. The torque of the head of the bolt is not actually how much the head is being clamped down. The bolts threads have different amounts of friction and the bolts stretch unevenly conforming to the differences in block/head. Two 90° passes will always clamp the head down the same distance/tension with oil on the threads or not.
Gearwrench has a 120xp flex digital torque wrench with angle. I have Snapon click style would like to get the Tech Angle as my first choice.
You have to leave it in it's box on a level surface when you turn it on or the accelerometer won't calibrate correctly. I don't know how good tge gyro is but I'd make slow movements in the plane with it.
No offense, but you should get some more practice on using a digital torque wrench. You over torqued multiple bolts in this video.
FFS man, read the instructions.
haha, no.
I just used one of these wrenches doing a 5.3 lifter replacement (head gasket). One thing that i noticed was that the wrench would start counting degrees before the fastener actually moved by as much as 16 degrees on each pull. I marked one of the bolts to the head (wish i had marked them all) and my mark was at about 95 degrees after a 90 then 50 degree series. So then i had to go through and do a 3rd stage of 45 degrees, making sure to set the wrench to 61 degrees to account for the 16 degree error. So my advice FWIW, if you do use this wrench go slow and pay attention to what the wrench reads right before the fastener starts moving then add that number to the angle your going for. If you have to make multiple pulls, dont forget to check the error and add accordingly (Use scratch paper). And make sure to mark all of your bolts to the head so you can make sure they actually moved the appropriate degrees when your done. Nice video! thx
Did you try putting it on the fastener and taking up the slack before resetting the angle counter? Does it work like that?
I suppose you would have to do that for every pull and add them up if you were doing more than one to get to the angle spec, but whatever it takes to do the job right.
@@PlasmaJunkie Yeah, it doesn't start counting until the slack is taken up. It is very accurate if you have the room to do the complete angle in one pull. But if you dont have the room, and say you can swing the wrench 30 degrees without hitting anything but you need a total of 90 degrees, then you would set the angle to 30 and take 3 pulls to get your 90. But you can't set it to 90 and do 3 pulls. It will look like it is working that way, but it really doesn't
I don't like that one, it would tick me off too much! Thanks for the video, it kept me from making a big mistake by purchasing one!
2:43 easy to find out, and you’re doing a comparison and that seems to be a rather critical bit of info.
Man, shame that thing didn't come with a manual.
Dont want to be bringing in that corona-virus with the paper.
It comes with a manual
So the vibrating head is why all female mechanics like snap on... Got it lol
Learn the tool before doing a video on how it works and how to use it. that is why you have so many thumbs down. There was a lot of good information but broadcasting that you have no practice using the tool does not look good; at all.
Most of my videos get thousands of views, you have many times the amount of subscribers I do yet your videos get hundreds of views. Maybe I should take advice from people who actually get views.
@@AutoRepairTips no good on critics are you?
@@ranierotravaglini8382 more like dont take healthy diet advice from a fat guy.
good video thank you
The ½" wrench you have there is a 72 count on the head
For anyone considering the the Quinn torque wrench has been tested numerous times and is off by 5% on average. Beware of "paid" reviewers pushing Harbor Freight. It's great for home use but not commercially. Snap one head bolt in the block and you'll wish you didn't cheap out on a torque wench.
Ohh f u c c k
It was painful to watch how negligently you were using those digital torque wrenched and Over-Torquing every other bolt. Thanks god, you're not a surgeon 😂
“Might be in the instructions, but I threw them out already” then doesn’t know how to use the goddamn thing… “you gotta hold this thing really still” no, m0ron. You’re supposed to put it on a solid surface. Can’t just hold it in your shaky a55 hands, especially after being winded from over-torquing the first two. Let me guess. Never looked at the instructions on the snap-on either… whole video was clown shoes. Where is this shop, so I know where to avoid.
You could look it up you’re sitting at your computer or your phone ha
How new is that snap on? I have some acquaintances who have the same digital torque wrench but with the 80 tooth ratchet and it doesn’t sound that way
Probably 10 years old. Not 100% sure when I bought it.
This seems like a RTFM video more than anything else...
rtfm?
@@AutoRepairTips en.wiktionary.org/wiki/RTFM
Lol. Threw away the instructions before first use...
LOW QUALITY ON SNAP-ON YOU SAID YOU HAD FOR 10YEARS?
LOL MOST HF TOOLS LAST AROUND 3 YEARS
Not fair to compare a ten plus year old product with another that’s just been released.
Ooooooh! You said Retarded... .!😁
Thanks for the review, I just wonder if I also can use the torque angle over the max. torque ? lets say i got a bolt with 250 ft. lb + 90 degres would that still work with the angle or will i screw the wrench ? Thanks
I would imagine there is a conversion for adding length, although it may still work fine as the level the wrench will be at (say 12 o’clock to 3) is going to still be the same. You’re only really increasing time of travel to said desired position. Although, simply using a breaker bar and a point a-b mark with starting reference extending onto the tool for alignment reference, may be just as easy and keep you from replacing a tool unnecessarily.
When I go over torque on my snap on tech angle wrench it freaks out, I am presuming this wrench will do something similar but that kind of torque would break most bolts.
You know the torque wrench calibration method?
10yrs enough said
Can you explain to me what directional torque is? I don't understand, why doesn't a ft lbs work for newer cars?
ft lbs do work, Its a supposedly more accurate measurement of clamping force. Just torquing something to ft lbs is a rotational resistance measurement. Where if you are measuring the actual amount the bolt is turning and you know what thread pitch is then it is a more precise amount of clamping.
@@AutoRepairTips ah like a start at point A end at point B measurement
Snap on= Apple. Everything else= Android
🤣😂
MAC TOOLS?
MATCO TOOLS?
@@MrDICKHEAD28 it falls in the in the middle of harbor freight and craftsmen 🤣🤣😂
Lol Jkjk idk I don’t use Mac tools and the Matco sockets I have are good. But I mostly use the bluepoint set with a snap on scanner I got off of a repo. With the box also.
So Everything else is better than Snap on?
Quinn head count is 72
I would not go to this shop for sure.
OH really? Please enlighten me to what would dissuade you? I am an ase certified master automobile technician with 15 years of experience working professionally and have been in business for 5 years. I have so much work that most times people have to wait over a week to get in for service.
Moving to fast
4:08 snap on head guy replacement--Maybe someone can tell me in the comments, they tell me every FN thing else....🤭🤭🤭🤭🤭🤭🤭🤭🤭🤭🤭🤭🤭