Angus Young's Donington SG Timeline | Then and Now | Wait.... It Has A Double?
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- Опубліковано 9 чер 2024
- This video is a follow up to my previous video where we talked about the actual year of Angus' current main touring SG - His 1963 small pickguard SG that was refinished in black.
In this video, we will take a closer look at how the guitar changed through the years, what parts were replaced and so on.
And - surprise - this guitar actually has a double which is almost identical, but there are a few differences between them and it's possible to tell them apart.
Research done along with Kyle Cyr and Chris Moiny.
0:00 Intro
0:22 Donington 1991 and Madrid 1996 (No Bull)
0:57 The 2000s
1:24 Tuner changes (Late 2000s and 2010s)
2:00 The Double SG
2:15 SG #2 - Truss rod cover and tuners
2:33 SG #2 - Vibrola holes
2:40 SG #2 - The imposter
3:03 Serial numbers
3:18 Why the confusion?
3:38 How to tell the Donington SG from SG #2
4:31 End screen
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NOTE: At 3:41, the pics are actually from the Black Ice Tour around 2009/2010
According to Trace Foster on the Rig Rundown, as of 2016, the main SG was fitted with Seymour Duncan pickups reading around 7.7-7.8kohm output, and 500k pots wired normally. We can't know for sure what was fitted before though, unfortunately.
At 1:43 and 3:13 you can see a "2" sticker on the back of the headstock of the "main" SG (113xxx) - it seems that internally they call that guitar "number 2", even though it's the guitar used more often. Please don't confuse it with the guitar *I* called SG #2 in this video (ser. 198491), that is indeed the backup guitar (I don't know what it is called internally) - I just called 113XXX the "SG #1" and 198491 "SG #2" for identification within this video.
Love that your cover these things about his guitars! Awesome video! 👌🤘
Thanks! Glad you like it
great video!
Thanks!
Angus' #1 is for recording use only now, so it would make sense for the #2 to be on his main touring guitar. That would make his #3 potentially the Back In Black SG, which was an SG custom with the white batwing guard. He also swaps through what seems to be late 60's early 70's SG's that are either walnut or cherry red as recent as Power Trip. It's likely his backup black SG falls in-between those. But also we cant forget his lightning bolt SG which is said to be completely remade over the years and he plays that one a lot too as recent as the Black Ice and Rock Or Bust tour. Long story short, he plays a lot of guitars but #2 is his "main" guitar outside his #1 which is for recording only.
Thanks for breaking this down! Very factual!
Thank you!
Excellent work 👍
Thank you
a Malcolm Young's River Plate Firebird timeline? great informative video
Good detective work, Andre.
Thank you
Thanks for clearing that up. His black guitar was always somewhat of a mystery to my. Wether it was the same guitar that he changed or 2 different guitars now I know.
Great video André 👍🏻 Angus is pretty smart. I would have done the same thing you just don’t loan out your’e number 1 Guitar that you have been playing for so many years.
Thanks! Agreed. Plus who would notice it right?
@@KozumaHeiji exactly only the people who look further and date things by serial number and other stuff like you guys did would notic it. Thanks for your’e video’s Andre keep up
The Good Work👍🏻👍🏻
At 3:50, you say the photo is from 2015, but the logo behind Angus is the 'black ice' tour logo, not the 'rock or bust' logo. You can tell by the frost at the top.
Oh shoot! I think you are right. I will look into that and blur out the year just to be sure haha thanks
Although that is correct, Angus young had never worn the type of color necktie and outfit that he did wear at Coachella in 2015. If you look at most pics from the black ice tour angus never had an orange necktie, besides from the club dates back in 2003. So even though that is the Black Ice logo, that photo it was used on the Rock Or Bust tour ever so often.
Can you play carry me home by AC/DC?
Conversion bushings.
Yes, but that doesn't account for the vibrola holes appearing and disappearing, or the serial numbers being different.
@@KozumaHeiji completely, only in reference to the 10mm effecting the Grover ream.
@@grantcindrich right. Conversion bushings can fit the smaller vintage tuners into guitars with larger holes reamed, but not the other way around.
Unless I am misunderstanding what you are saying.
Oh yeah I guess it's possible #1 could have been fitted with conversion bushings at some point, but we also have the other details to cross check - and I still haven't seen a pic of #1 with the conversion bushings that can be proven, I think...
Or that #2 uses conversion bushings... but honestly I think the probability of #2 still having the smaller holes is slightly higher. Otherwise why not just use the same parts on both guitars?